Speculative Biology of ICE PLANET BARBARIANS (hard scifi rewrite)

Ajouté : 2026-05-30

[00:00:00]Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of your favorite podcast. My name's Maria. Oh, wait, no, it's Will.

[00:00:06]Um, that's Maria. She's my co-host. Uh, today we are doing a hard sci-fi speculative biology rewrite of IcePlanet Barbarians. For those of you who are unlucky enough to have never heard of Ice Planet of Barbarians, it's a um how to put this, a sci-fi epic um that has uh contains a lot of um deep themes shown through different relationships between >> it's a smutty girl book for girls >> with hot alien boyfriends.

[00:00:38]>> It's >> Yeah. So, this is uh the covers if you would like to see the kind of thing we're dealing with here. Roll up to the other. That one. Those ones.

[00:00:46]>> Yeah, here we are. Yeah, this is the one that that that really tells you what kind of books these are. These are the self-published ones before they got the artsy uh published ones that are like a little bit more cartoony.

[00:00:58]But uh yes.

[00:01:00]>> Yeah, it's it's what it's basically.

[00:01:03]What if you fell on an alien planet that was filled with men with limited ladies and the men were big giant blue velvety aliens who were just great boyfriends like like just the bestest boyfriends ever. Uh that are very nice and take care of you and want to take care of you and all that jazz. That's that's that's what this Let me tell you that one looks terrible.

[00:01:29]>> What are you talking about? It's Barbarian's Touch. That one is the worst cover. Oh my god.

[00:01:37]>> I think Twink's Hemsworth here would have some words with you. I think this is a great cover.

[00:01:43]>> Oh my god.

[00:01:43]>> There are some other great ones.

[00:01:45]>> Terrible.

[00:01:46]>> The wiki, by the way, has all these uh quite funnily enough. Um Oh, here. The the photoshopping of this one is so good.

[00:01:54]Uh this is um >> the winter soldier himself. Uh, I forget his name, but this is the Winter Soldier himself in his winter attire from the Marvel MCU universe. Um, but yeah, so me and Maria like four years ago at the dawn of this channel, um, did uh a series of reviews for the first five of them. Um, and those are really hilarious videos. They don't get as much uh play as our other roasts nowadays cuz the series had a moment where everyone was like, "Oh my god, this is ridiculous."

[00:02:24]And then they read the books and they're like, "It's not that ridiculous." And like then the moment passed and and YouTube moved on. But we haven't moved on.

[00:02:31]>> No. Uh Ice >> I rewatched our first one yesterday.

[00:02:35]>> Yeah. I I planet Barbarians lives rentree in our brain. And sometimes when we read bad books that are like like this book is campy and in and in and bad in campy ways like in that kind of like good bad way. Um I where and the thing was it was very painful for me to read.

[00:02:53]I have a very low tolerance for that kind of a smut in books. Like there are people who are like, "If there's no smut, I'm not here for it." And then there's me where like if there's no smut, I'm happier than I've ever been in my life. Uh I just >> if there's no good smut, >> but even like good smut, half the time I'm like I probably would have been fine without it, you know? Uh it's just something I've come to realize about myself. Uh, and but there is like a a fun campiness to these books where as much as I was tortured and if you go back and you watch that book that book the review, I am tortured like greatly. But it was >> so funny.

[00:03:32]>> Yeah, it was a fun time. Uh, and sometimes we read bad books that have no joy and no fun and they're they're just >> I am fond of these books in remembrance because the author kind of just wrote what she thought was funny or not funny but was like romantic and like fun and she just wrote it and then put it to paper and didn't expect everyone to liked it. Just expected a few people to like it. And there was an honesty to that that I find so much more refreshing than a lot of the bad books we've read which want to be more. like Shadow of the Conqueror wants to be more, whereas this series wants to be muddy barbarians. Um, so no real uh shade to this series. We gave it enough shade in our roast videos of it. Go check those out in the spirit of fun. Those really are in the spirit of fun. Um, and uh, but today I was like, you know what? We need to brush off our writer caps. You guys have been asking for more rewrite videos. Here we are. Uh we only have 30 people live with us even though it's a Saturday morning because you guys lie to us a lot. Um but here let me put on screen one of the uh anatomically correct soule and um Maria explain to us what's going on. This is a fan art. I don't know by who. Niche it looks like.

[00:04:49]Um why don't you explain to us the anatomical differences between the soule uh these are the alien barbarians and the women who get drop landed on the planet >> the planet. Okay. So, first off, she is small girl cuz these are big big big man. Big beefy.

[00:05:09]>> Uh big. Uh and so she's like like her from shoulders to like butt is like from his shoulder to like the second rib, you know, like that that kind of level. Um uh and he is blue. Uh and you can't tell. One of the things that I wish came across more in fan art and stuff like that is these guys are fuzzy. They are literally Oh god, I hate this. I like >> This is more for size.

[00:05:40]>> Yeah. Um they uh they are fuzzy. They're They've got a bit of velvet fur. They still have hair on their head, which I find very bizarre. Why Why does that happen? Um and they're basically humanoid. They're They've got hands, and it's not like they have like four fingers or something or like they're missing digits or anything. They've got feet. Um, and they've got horns coming out of their head, like goat horns, as you can see here. They've also got certain parts of their body, like their chest and that have ridges that are a bit like kind of like a protruding hard bone piece. Um, and they're just they're just big guys. What we cannot Oh, they also have tails, >> which apparently makes doggy style impossible >> if you know anything.

[00:06:27]>> That never happens. who don't have tails obviously and there is one um how to put this one there's two actually um biological differences that make them irresistible to the ladies do you do you remember what both are Maria >> oh there's three as I point out in our video number one their tongues are rigid and buff this is literally a bit we do in the first one >> this exact thing.

[00:06:59]>> You're right. Yeah, >> I'm [ __ ] done. Okay. Um, they have rigy uh on their their tongues are kind of like ribbed and have riged like little bumpies that make for great oral.

[00:07:12]I don't know about that.

[00:07:14]>> Allegedly.

[00:07:15]>> Allegedly. I uh that's not ne whenever I'm like, "Wow, that sounds nice." I'm never like, "You know what? I want hard bumps." But anyway, uh the other thing is they are ribbed for her pleasure down there, if you if you know what we mean.

[00:07:33]And then number three, and by far the most egregious as far as what the [ __ ] is this here for, is their uh what is it called? The spur.

[00:07:44]>> It's it's this little thing a couple inches up from the base of the uh you know, the the penis, if you will. Uh, and it is a little protrusion that lines up perfectly uh with, you know, parts of human women anatomy. Uh, and it the the spur has no biological purpose on not Hoth. Not Hoth is what this planet is called because the female characters digest it via Star Wars.

[00:08:18]>> Entirely through Star Wars references.

[00:08:20]Yeah.

[00:08:20]>> Mhm. Mhm. Uh, and it's mainly like the first girl and then everybody else just starts using it. But on not Hoth there's no biological like everybody's like it's not like the sucki ladies have like a little mini hole up there or they have a [ __ ] or anything like that. There's just like like like space god was like you know what one day human women will fall on this planet and I bequeath upon them a little sticky outy dude that'll line up with the [ __ ] Now, and I made this argument I think in the first or the second.

[00:08:51]>> So, okay, so here's the thing, cuz I rewatched this. I actually almost just took out the clip and did it, but we didn't. They say, so what happens? Okay, so this it launches into the second organism we're going to be talking about today and speculative evolving. Uh the kooi is a symbiote that um the saki sakui saki >> it's and sakqui >> the saui um it's like a symbiot that lives in native uh animals on that planet on not hof and the sakui who are not native to the planet have to uh on birth they have to they have to when one of their children's born take one of these symbiotes and give it to their children and the symbiote makes it so they can breathe breathe um whatever weird gases in the atmosphere and help with the cold, but it also wants to, as a good symbiote does, it wants to um uh continue its lifestyle, right? It's gotten used to living and it wants to succeed. Um, and so it makes it so that if another person has a koi as well, the two of you will begin to resonate for each other, which uh brings up a lot of sexual arousal uh because those two people are most compatible for the babies, the bibitos.

[00:10:09]>> Yes.

[00:10:10]>> Right. Um and so me and Maria though, um we were saying that we don't really think that's what it's for or measuring.

[00:10:21]And then Amanda in the second video had another theory that I thought was quite good. So before we jump into that though, let's let's get back to uh let's get let's get back to our doc here.

[00:10:31]Okay.

[00:10:32]>> So >> also somebody somebody said, "Is it just an Omegaverse knot?" Uh no, it is not.

[00:10:38]It is it is just a little protrusion up >> like a couple inches up from the base of the penis. And that's magically Where did you go? You were right here. Oh, look. It's a Kito. This is my new son, guys. Don't No, don't go. Jojo, he left.

[00:10:55]Uh, that's Joseph, also known as Jojo.

[00:10:59]Jojo Bean Cup of Joe. Um, and he is the cat we rescued back in December. He still has not integrated into the rest of the household. Well, he uh he is like fine 80% of the time. And then all of a sudden he just decides, you know what would be useful right now to just attack one of the other cats for no reason. So we're working on it.

[00:11:20]>> He's dealing he's he's um like uh um Rambo in the first Rambo that's more about PTSD and uh uh Vietnam I was going to say vegetarian Vietnam war veterans.

[00:11:34]Okay. Yeah. So um I think we need to lay out some guidelines before we start speculative um evolving. As I said, the Sakui, I think what we need to keep for sure is the spur. That's non-negotiable. We have to keep >> non-negotiable.

[00:11:50]>> They have to be into human women. That has to stay as well. We can't change the plot of the series so fundamentally that these Sakui aren't trying to to dick down human women. They have to be into [ __ ] down human.

[00:12:09]Okay. I think this is one of the things we just have to say.

[00:12:12]The qui has to remain a separate organ.

[00:12:16]And honestly, this is the que itself is one of my favorite things to you for a speculative sci-fi read. Oh, I have some good ideas for it.

[00:12:24]>> Yeah, cuz like I'm imagining kind of like dark creepy like like >> I have I have a version of it that's a boweapon that I think is very interesting. Uh >> William, >> I know. Okay. Sakui Sakui are not native to native to not now. Um, we might change that if it's a little too boring, but I think we can make it work. I think we we need to look at how they are.

[00:12:57]>> We have to we have to make it work because I think so there's two things we have to reckon. Are they going to be humanoid in the sense that they are a later evolution of an ear like of humans that were previously like uh off into space? So actually no, here's a couple of things that before we even touch the sock queen.

[00:13:18]>> Yeah.

[00:13:19]>> Just to back it all up.

[00:13:21]>> Is this set in like a modern human period or are we in space age? And >> no, no, no, no, no. We follow the plot of the series. This is space age. This is this is normal humans who got their um shorty pajamas on and they got abducted. Um and they're now they got dumped here by alien slavers. Um I'm going to say though that there is a whole bunch of backstory from what I understand of why the Soui ended up there and like all the we don't know that. We just know what we know from the first five books and we're not going to be paying attention to any uh anything beyond that. No, no, no. So no, the plot of the series remains the same. Okay. We just have to change the evolution and kind of uh uh you know uh extrapolate out why they would be like this. This is very um children of time inspired. I actually thought of naming it like Ice Plant Barbarians as written by Adrien Tchaikovski, but nobody would get that because not enough people have read Children of Time. But what he did to the portids and the spiders we are now doing here. Uh, so again though, I think he would make the ladies alien astronauts that crash landed on a thing.

[00:14:28]I >> we'll we'll get there. I think we can do something interesting with the the the other aliens, too. But we'll see. For right now, right now, we're just focused on the sui and and the kooi. Okay. Uh have to be into taking down human women.

[00:14:44]Kooi has to remain a separate organism.

[00:14:45]Saku are not native to Hoth. Okay. These are our like >> building blocks. The the the >> are the temple mounts. That's not what it's called. Um this is the the thing.

[00:14:58]Noah, not Noah.

[00:15:00]>> God, I am not doing well today, guys.

[00:15:02]>> How funny. Like Jojo is just running around rubbing his face on things like and like he's in this room every day.

[00:15:09]Every every day while I work, he's in this room with me. But he's like taking this opportunity to explore places he's never gotten up on before.

[00:15:18]>> He understands this is a social time.

[00:15:20]>> Yeah, it's really [ __ ] funny. Like he never has gotten up on any of these things before. And it's just funny watching him run around rubbing his face on everything. You good, bro?

[00:15:30]>> Yep, he's good.

[00:15:32]>> Okay, so um >> the axioms that's a >> the axioms. So originally it said that the spur to explain this. So we need to put down spur original theory.

[00:15:47]Oh, actually first we need to come up with a name for them. So they should be um homo saxs. [ __ ] to be a little more lai sakia. So, so because the thing that's happening is whatever in their language saw is, it's probably of the que like is is like if we're looking at it cuz qui is in their name. Uh so it is something of like people of the que like that's that's kind of what's happening with their original.

[00:16:23]>> I think that for right now as we go deeper we can change it but for right now they're homo saki. Uh the spur the original theory was that it is um a bundle uh uh releases pheromone. Actually I can just copy and paste because there is from the wiki.

[00:16:42]They have a spur a straight thumbl length piece of cartilage above their ridge genitalia or ridge genitals used.

[00:16:52]>> Thumb length is insane.

[00:16:54]>> Yeah.

[00:16:55]>> Especially for how big they are. Could you just imagine?

[00:16:59]And again, it's somebody in the chat said like a rabbit and it's it's literally like they're built like if you're if you're familiar with the sex toy rabbits, >> this is what it is. But just like just imagine like a guy walking around with like his normal junk and then just like >> above just a whole ass thumb, >> right?

[00:17:17]So, in the um one of the things that we um noted in the series uh is that um in every sexual encounter, the kooey, excuse me, not the kooey, the spur is able to directly hit uh the woman's um both uh butthole and uh >> depending on which we're handling this.

[00:17:43]>> Yeah. Don't watch this.

[00:17:45]>> Yeah. No. uh you should click off. Um but me and Maria were pointing out that that's kind of a bizarre those things are not equidistant from where the dick would be.

[00:17:56]>> So and also like it would vary based off of human to human variability, right? So maybe our theory was that that is what the kooey is doing. So we have >> that when you resonate the the ki is letting you know that that guy's spur and your things >> measures distance between >> anus.

[00:18:21]>> This is such a [ __ ] bizarre >> What are you talking about? This is great. Now obviously um Amanda when she here had the theory that which was theory three.

[00:18:33]Oh, I should put supposition. That sounds fancier. Theory three is that actually the kooey is for um like a prehensile. It goes like >> into like the butthole to keep you there. Yeah. While they're having sex.

[00:18:47]So uh latch.

[00:18:50]>> Um so now we have these three theories. I kind of don't think this makes any sense because why would it deposit scent right there and then why would scent be picked up there? Like I don't I just joined and thought Will said ankle like the weird kids in from No, we're just talking about the kooies here. Uh latch and key I think is what we called it. Um uh okay. So where do we want to take this? I was talking about with Ellen as she was saying that maybe the kooey or the saki are originally an aquatic species and that's why they're blue and they have that latch for the kooi.

[00:19:31]right? Or for their for their dick spur.

[00:19:34]>> So So one of the questions is, is the spur from So here here's if we're doing true speculative fiction.

[00:19:41]>> Does the spur predate Hoth or is the spur an evolutionary outcome of being on not Hoth? Because that because that means Oh, you're right. Yeah. I listen, I came to play, baby. I came to play.

[00:19:56]>> You know, you're right. You're right.

[00:19:58]You're right. Let's let's game it out.

[00:20:00]Okay, >> we got to game it out. So, is the spur inherent to whatever the previous place they came from? Cuz within the book, the the book, so within the canon, we know that the uh Saqui landed on this planet, their ship broke and was unable to fly, and they have been stranded on this planet ever since. So much so that they no longer acknowledge the ship as a ship. They call it the elder cave and they go into it because it still is able to heal them and do some certain things and it can also be like a language repository but they don't acknowledge it as a thing with which you can travel through stars. So it's a far enough uh remove where they have become outside of the visits to the elder cave completely separate from any sort of technology space travel or knowledge of those things. Um, and so how long I guess >> this is answered. This is answered. This is this is asked and answered in the book.

[00:20:57]What did we say about the Sakui women and what they lack?

[00:21:02]>> And we were always like, it's weird that they have the dickper if the sui women don't have a clip, >> right? Okay. Cuz the the And that is true. the but then why wouldn't the why would the que only give the saqi men a spur and not give it to the ladies like if it's a biological imperative that the que is >> yes >> causing to evolve why would it do this evolution for women >> that existed >> we haven't figured that out yet but we also haven't world built enough we haven't discovered we haven't uncovered the the clues that Ruby Dixon has laid for us >> so uh uh Uh, Dick Spur is a >> not evolution, >> an addition of the queen. Okay. So, I think that's important to realize. So, on their home planet, um, it's it they don't they don't have those.

[00:21:59]Okay. So, laying aside the dick spur for a minute, we have large blue aliens. Um, I think the things we need to keep were that uh, no. Okay, we didn't really need to keep any. They're big cat people.

[00:22:12]They're Tony the Tigers. Um, as Maria said at one point in the video and I cracked up at. So, we need to think about what kind of So, my supposition is that they're probably like lions because they're a social animal and they're kind of like cats, but at the same time, let's let's you know what? Let's lay out possible evolutionary um >> Yeah. And I guess I guess the question is so going back to a previous question is are they coming like are we keeping them humanoid in shape or are we going weird?

[00:22:50]>> I wanted to go spider immediately. Um I wanted to go spider shaped >> because I think that would be fun.

[00:22:58]>> But I think um I think what we do is we look at okay from what we see of them what could they be? And if those are interesting, we can continue down other adoptions they should have logically.

[00:23:11]>> Yes. You know, >> fair.

[00:23:13]>> So they could be water dwelling.

[00:23:19]They could be lion pride based alpha predators.

[00:23:29]>> All things lead to crabs and spiders.

[00:23:33]>> Spiders.

[00:23:36]Um, so I think the things that are kind of interesting about them is like why do they have horns if they also have canines? That doesn't make a ton of sense. And why do they have the this these cartilage? Like that's a lot of um resources to continue to have despite maybe it's like a cooling mechanism.

[00:23:55]Maybe it's not actually armor, but like a cooling mechanism >> on an ice planet.

[00:24:01]>> Well, this will be from their their original.

[00:24:03]>> Oh, their original. Okay. cuz yeah, they do have these ridges of kind of like bony cartilage uh on them. It was in fanfic photo.

[00:24:16]>> Well, it's fan art and it's not >> a fan art photo. There we go. Yeah.

[00:24:19]Yeah.

[00:24:19]>> Yeah. See, you can see here they have these. I Yeah. Because I mean they could either be like we could interpret them as like the crocodilian scoots but if it's cartilage then that implies you know one of the problems large animals have is they have difficulty cooling down. So this could be it could be kind of like how birds have internal air chambers that help them respirate. So we have the cartilage is um >> Henrique Cordall. Uh, we don't know if the spiders if the barbarians are spiders now or or wait, you weren't saying spider spider. Maybe you were and you missed.

[00:24:57]>> I did say spiders, but I just >> But we're we're not we're not committing to that. What we're doing is taking what they are and trying to work backwards from that and how this might have happened. And then if we can't find anything fruitful that way, then we're going to work from a different starting point and work forward. a cooling and respirating system or cooling a respirating system. And that would like help explain how they're so large and still powerful and and stuff like that.

[00:25:24]Um, and respiration system.

[00:25:28]>> I if they're aquatic or water dwelling, they need to have a different shape.

[00:25:33]Their shape is absolutely ass. I think I think Ellen's supposition was that they were at one point water dwelling and now they're not because it doesn't there there is some kind of a theory that humans originally were aquatic at one point and that's why we're so hairless or something like that. Um um but I don't cartilage >> technically everything was once >> oh yeah >> you know so blah blah blah blah blah uh thinking they're >> This is Jojo Bean.

[00:26:08]>> Okay, that's not a massive dick. For the record, >> it's a giraffe. Please tell them that's not a mass.

[00:26:12]>> It's a little It's a little giraffe.

[00:26:16]>> Speaking of >> Jojo Bean, >> I was thinking they were mammals, so no gills.

[00:26:23]>> All right. Um I believe Ellen has uh told me that she was saying that they were mammals, so no gills.

[00:26:29]>> Mammals. So not >> pish. Um, let's see.

[00:26:36]Why not both? Um, >> what are you Why not bothing?

[00:26:45]>> That's so funny.

[00:26:46]>> I'm I'm nervous. No, >> the horns are weird because the people who tends to have horns are not predators. So, I guess they're not predators.

[00:26:56]>> I mean, I like that.

[00:26:58]>> I like that.

[00:27:00]you know, or you know, not predators in the way we think of, you know, because if you think about it, like chimpanzees are predators, like >> they they eat lots of other little monkeys, but they are also uh omnivores, you know, they can they enjoy their frums. Uh >> yeah.

[00:27:17]>> So, >> and they're only fangs in so far as you know what? Okay, maybe. Okay. Okay.

[00:27:24]Okay. in their natural habitat. They are not obligate carnivores. But when they went to this ice planet where obviously there's no food, the kooey changed them so that they have to be they have to be able to consume meat. And so the horns are essentially vestigial now.

[00:27:41]>> Yeah. No, and that completely makes sense because I mean again to use chimpanzees is a really good uh they eat a lot of other monkeys but they can also chill out and like if they had to so having the que help them evolve to the point where they can survive just on meat but they still can um uh cuz I think there's a point where they start eating roots and stuff like the Yeah, there's a point where the girls start finding like a root vegetable that they kind of use as potatoes and the saki are able to consume them. So, they still have the ability to be omnivores despite hundreds of years or who knows how long of eating raw meat. So, and that also gives us a timeline. That also gives us a timeline because it's not so far in the future that they can only eat >> raw meat >> like and they cannot consume cooked and or uh like vegetables and stuff like that cuz that's a that's there's a line for that as far as like you know what your digestion can comfortably do. So but it's long enough that culturally they have forgotten the previous arc of what they were >> arc of what they were. So yeah, I think originally the thing is okay, so that makes sense. Now they can't be grazing animals because their body plan just does not make any sense for that.

[00:29:08]>> Um, probably what they are is they are so they're taller than humans and if we assume that their planet has the same gravity um and roughly the same scale as humans, right? I mean the boring part about aliens is that aliens will mostly just look like animals like the human animals because there's a lot of reason like out of the many times on earth you know uh pe animals have developed they always develop two eyes eventually unless you're like um an insect but like once you reach a certain size there's certain boring things that biologically you have to do like life will never be silicon based it will always be carbon based because carbon is way more common and better at it like there's a lot of boring stuff like that but >> ooh Ooh. Ooh, I like this. And I just had this thought, too. Um, uh, today life is good said, um, tree climbers and fruit eaters. And then, uh, Scabbard says, "Horns are often used for mating to battle each other for female attention." Uh, and I had an image of like a a previous evolution of the Saqui in trees smacking into each other head first with their horns as part of a like maybe arboreal.

[00:30:19]Aroreal.

[00:30:20]>> Aroreal. They lived on a tree like entirely like tree world. They were aroreal and they used like they they they would swing their bodies at each other and smash head first which it gives us the goat but also is using the swinging that comes with trees.

[00:30:39]>> Well, it also they they're ape like in that their musculature and apes have significantly better muscular structure than humans. And so that also explains part of their incredible strength.

[00:30:49]Primarily arboreal.

[00:30:52]>> Um primarily arboreal. Um what else did we say? Oh uh lima structure is more similar to great apes than humans. Partly uh explaining their immense strength.

[00:31:13]>> Yes. Um, and so originally they probably had like shorter legs, but the legs have grown to be more human in length as they've had to actually >> be like walk more on not Hoth.

[00:31:24]>> Yes.

[00:31:24]>> Um, actually probably, let's be real, they had prehensile feet at one point that were very long. Um, and those had to be flattened as they were walking.

[00:31:35]>> Yeah. And I think we should carry through that their feet are weird. like they're not entirely normal ass looking feet. Um, also someone said they would hook their horns and branches to sleep.

[00:31:49]>> So, there's less of a risk about this that this could also be a sexual dimmorphism thing though in that like >> I love I love sexual dimmorphism.

[00:31:58]>> No, no, no. Sexual dimmorphism is when men and women are different, not the sex act you're thinking of.

[00:32:04]>> No, no, no. I'm I'm thinking of that like in Birds, you son of a [ __ ] uh and humans.

[00:32:11]>> Um no, where it's something where like uh males don't go into like the more crowded arbur like you know they stay to the lower branches where females can go to the higher branches where there's less likelihood of their horns getting >> Oh my god, I love this. And the the women have much smaller, tighter >> uh horns and then the guys get those big like and and that's part of the like mating thing. I love this.

[00:32:36]>> I love this. Uh, it could even be something I think where like only not the alpha but like the whatever the the lion guy of the tribe is called.

[00:32:47]>> We can go silverback. It's right there.

[00:32:49]>> Silverback. It's right there.

[00:32:51]>> Only the silverback has the big horns.

[00:32:54]So, his job is mostly just to like protect against other people. And then you have males who don't, you know, cuz it's a lot of calorie, not calorie, it's a lot of resources to have these horns.

[00:33:04]How that can be explained is using silverbacks as an example. Uh there are more silverbacks than there are like in a in a particular group of uh gorillas, you can have multiple silverbacks. All it means is they have gotten old enough to get silver. Like that's it. And so it can be that through the process of what life was like on this previous planet.

[00:33:27]No, you're right. You're right. Die earlier before you got the really big horn.

[00:33:33]Well, actually, you know what? Horn growth is uh determined by age. Older sacki sacqui males are more sedentary but expected to protect the tribe from predators. So, it's kind of like, oh, grandpa just sits around all day, but he shows up when it's time. Exactly. his uh his actual um uh uh metabolism slows down. Metabolism >> also. We have a couple of good >> Yeah, there's some good ones. I was going to >> Yeah, there are some. Let me tell you guys, you are cooking in the chat today.

[00:34:12]I [ __ ] love this. So, I love this. Do you think one uh could use their horns to break open a particularly hard fruit like space pomegranate? I love that.

[00:34:20]Like a a nice So, they're they're like their heads concussion proof. They're they've got real whatever's happening in their like their cranium area. Very strong. I love that. Um uh the female's horns are like Princess Leia's hair, which connects today life is good comment of I'd like them to the for the female suite to also have horns if smaller because that would make them look adorable. Um and then uh I like this blue J2206 says, "Weird idea. Women's have smaller horns but stronger and maybe longer tails than the guys. The longer tails make sense, especially if they're the higher parts of the trees.

[00:34:59]>> That completely makes sense.

[00:35:01]>> Females have vestal horns that are hollow and used primarily for social interaction and vocal signaling. I like the idea that they can kind of make noises through their horns that are hollow like >> oh it can connect to their like >> well remember the are always purring which they say is from the que but maybe it's not. Maybe they is actually >> they they can do and and it's a noise that the humans hear as purring but to the squee has >> much more communication to it which I like the idea of that >> longer tail sorry go ahead >> uh the there's this uh thing that happens in the books where once you learn the language like once you download the language they basically can communicate just as well as other >> sui people with the humans >> and I think no no with these horn vocalizations.

[00:35:52]Uh they can't there's there's always going to be a form of communication like the saki have a verbal communication but they also have this additional and it's almost like how we have a lot of like um uh nonverbal communication and how we position ourselves, facial expressions, stuff like that. And this for them is just an added form of communication which is this and that humans can never access and are never fully going to be able to replicate. They might be able to like, you know, understand the vibrations to a certain extent, but they're never going to be able to like fully have that, which I like. I like the idea of there being some biological things that make it so that there is always some distance between them. Uh I think uh Lindsay Ellis's uh one of the things that works well in that series is that there are ways of communication, thinking and processing that uh our human main character and our alien main character can never fully >> Should we send this video to Ruby Dixon just as like, hey, we helped figure out your series. You can uh in future books, you're right. You can use >> Ruby Dixon is happy with what she wrote.

[00:36:59]>> Her piles of cash.

[00:37:01]>> Yeah. And like Ruby Dixon is doing great and she is happy with what she's done and and her fans are happy. This this is going too hard for what they want.

[00:37:11]>> It is funny we made tree goats. Like that's where we ended up. But I'm not I'm not mad at it. I think also tales should be used uh for some kind of a social um interaction.

[00:37:22]>> Oh, I love that. Like like people hold tails like their tails wrap around.

[00:37:26]>> Yeah. They're like without really thinking about it.

[00:37:29]>> Um >> Oh, it could be. You know what it could be? It could be like the octopus arms where octopi don't really even know what their arms are doing sometimes. The sacki tail kind of does its own thing without knowing and it's like a saying like a young man without a wife is like a tail. Like he just kind of does.

[00:37:44]>> So funny. I love the cultural implications of this.

[00:37:48]>> Tales are horny without the person knowing is what I >> uh younger males get to stay with their fathers but they eventually they have to go on their travels to find their own tribe in the past. Um, there's got to be some symbolism with space pomegranates and the underworld.

[00:38:07]>> I mean, it is >> not Oh, also I like this. The tails have barbs on them >> for for the women.

[00:38:15]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:38:16]>> Yeah. And it's a it's a form of, you know, defense. And maybe that's why doggy style is a little hairy because during >> Oh, you're right.

[00:38:25]>> Yeah. During sex, the women can't control. It's just that tail is just going all over the place around to the face.

[00:38:32]>> She put the clues in there for us.

[00:38:36]>> [ __ ] >> She put the clues in there for us.

[00:38:39]>> I love this.

[00:38:42]>> Hails are barb.

[00:38:44]>> Oh my god.

[00:38:45]>> To ward away um >> men um >> unwanted male attention, but also just defense in general. It is their defense mechanism. You know, they've got smaller hollow, so they can't use their horns defensively. Um, uh, so it is that like the the lady saw, you're going to get a barb to the face, [ __ ] And so like doggy style is possible. It is just not preferred, babes. Not >> I mean, one thing is that, you know, often animal genitalia is at war with each other in the way that like um uh what is it? Um, not penguins, ducks have a foot long spiral penis to get into the female ducks foot long spiral vagina because they're in an arms race with each other. So, that actually could be another theory for the spur is theory three or theory four.

[00:39:38]It's like um the w the female sakui's uh punani as Katie likes to say is like a shell and the spur cracks it.

[00:39:50]Cracks it.

[00:39:53]>> I hate that.

[00:39:54]>> Yeah. How what are those called?

[00:39:56]Nutcrackers.

[00:39:57]>> That's terrible.

[00:40:00]>> Well, let's just bear it in mind.

[00:40:01]>> We'll just bear it. We can put it there, but I hate it. I hate it. Uh, the female tail would not just be longer, but also much stronger. I love this. I love this idea of these like male tail.

[00:40:14]>> Oh, and it also makes sense that it would be stronger because they also use it a lot for their uh up in the taller parts of the trees. Can I tell you, I'm just loving developing the squee on this aroreal planet.

[00:40:29]>> I'm telling you, she laid all that out there. She has these clues. It's like archaeology. We're like, "What does this say? What does this say?" Okay. And then we find out how they're connected. I'm going to move grab more water. I'll be right back.

[00:40:38]>> Gabbard says, "Do the babies grow up in the higher parts of the trees because it's safer? Is that why the females live there more often?" Oh, I love the idea of this planet having a really dangerous ground, like whatever is down there, whether it's other predators or something that makes it so they that's one of the reasons why they do stay up there. and that the men actually go down there for, you know, gathering things, hunting purposes, and that they might have, while the women have much stronger tails, the males of the species have much more like defined feet and are like they spend around >> it could also be something that changes with age. Maybe young sakui males maybe have feet that are more suited for walking and then once they settle into a tribe their feet elongate into a stronger prehensile form with talons and stuff. That's something we could look into. Um, what if the tree zip lines and the zip lines down the music using the trails? Oh, tree zip lines is tree zip lines is now uh as part of the >> let me tell you the chat is just on fire. Uh, Fria says their funeral rights might involve lowering a body to the floor.

[00:41:58]>> That's very good.

[00:42:01]>> Sorry guys. The reason they're blue also is like uh because it's like harder to see maybe up in the sky from predators on the ground.

[00:42:08]>> Oh, and maybe maybe the the trees on this planet have a blue like the leaves have blue tinges to them and they can even be some some tree leaves have a fuzzy underside so it just helps them to be able to like blend in to this uh you know space. But also like I'm not too worried about that cuz the when you have things that really blend in, it's generally because they are like prey for some reason. And I much more see these in kind of like the pocket of like the apes of um you know not not necessarily too worried about that.

[00:42:47]>> I I think it would be interesting if their social structure at least on their homeland was more pridebased than clanbased. I think that's interesting.

[00:42:56]And then maybe what you see on Nofoth of there being an equal amount of men and women is like kind of a weird um uh Okay. So I have a theory about what's going on with the women and the the humans and the sui uh and and how that can be played in. But I think on their planet it's more pride based with like women being most of the social people and then men just hanging around somewhat.

[00:43:20]>> Uh the blue thing is pretty easy to fix.

[00:43:22]Some animals have different color cones and see colors differently. We might see them as blue, but other Yeah, I love that.

[00:43:26]>> This is why tigers are orange is cuz deer can't see orange and so like it just doesn't matter.

[00:43:31]>> That's so funny. Uh, today life is good says, uh, the feet would not change, but the claws would constantly grow longer and more rounded so they go from runners to climbers. And I love this cultural tidbit. And so a male that is forced to leave has to cut them down again. And it becomes a saying that they are on the road again. Uh, and thus, you know, had to cut the the cutting of the foot claws again, you know, like that kind of culture.

[00:43:55]>> Trimming the claws.

[00:43:56]>> Yeah, >> trimming the toes.

[00:43:58]>> That guy, >> I got to trim my toes again.

[00:44:01]>> His toes are real trim and it means like he's out and about. He's He's down there.

[00:44:06]>> Okay. So, do we think the Saki This actually almost isn't important. I was going to say, did they become space fairy and crash there or did they get taken by alien slavers? Cuz obviously, but in terms of the evolution, it actually doesn't matter. It's they're they're not going to have evolved much from, you know, how they are now with tech. They would just get tech, which would could be fun to look into, >> but for right now, let's stick with this.

[00:44:28]>> Yeah.

[00:44:28]>> I I love speculative biology so much.

[00:44:30]Literally every large speculative biology series you've heard of, I've read.

[00:44:34]>> Uh including um the bird world one.

[00:44:37]That's so sad.

[00:44:39]>> A >> what was it called? Antara.

[00:44:43]I don't know. There's one where the a planet is terraformed, but the only animal to get there are finches. And it follows millions of years of evolution as the finches evolve and stuff. And it's it's it's really cool. It's a really good good one. Um Okay.

[00:44:58]Okay. So, I think then what happens is these squi.

[00:45:03]So, what's what's Latin for climbing?

[00:45:07]Homo.

[00:45:08]>> Well, homo implies human. Why are we committing to human? Okay, fine. Saki.

[00:45:14]>> Yeah, it would be sak saki would be like the first part and then we would have a >> Yeah, let me look up Latin. Scanderei.

[00:45:22]Okay, there we go. We have the saki scanderei.

[00:45:27]The saki saki uh like name of real monkey maybe in Portuguese. I'm not sure they want a place that causes them to have the summer winter coat but I don't feel they have the longer winter coat. Well, they don't actually have a winter coat is the interesting thing. So I'm thinking something must have happened there with the >> due to the que they no longer develop winter coats cuz they're just comfortable cuz that's one of the things that the happens to the human ladies is they are no longer as bothered by the cold like they can just wear like one layer and they're okay instead of needing to be completely bundled up. So that that's partially explained there.

[00:46:02]But I do like the idea that originally they did have a longer winter coat and you know maybe their hair on their head is more indicative of what that longer coat was like. Um cuz again for some reason they have hair on their head like like long.

[00:46:17]>> Well obviously don't be weird.

[00:46:18]>> Yeah, you know.

[00:46:19]>> Okay.

[00:46:20]>> God forbid people.

[00:46:23]>> Now we've gotten there. the Sakui, they crash land on not Hoff and they have to have uh they're implanted with the Kooi, which is the symbiote, right?

[00:46:34]>> Yeah.

[00:46:35]>> Um um here, let me grab >> Oh, no. A visual for the que.

[00:46:41]>> No.

[00:46:43]>> What are you talking about? This is going to be great.

[00:46:45]>> No, >> I can't find a funny one. There was one I had in mind I thought I could find and I can't.

[00:46:49]>> I uh I do not handle like those kinds of things well. I'm a squeamish [ __ ] guys. That's gross. I don't know what we're looking at, but I hate >> This is the kooey.

[00:46:58]>> This is the kooey in its natural environment. It's being defeated by a human. Um, obviously, this is in far in the future. Uh, this is not one of the ladies, though it could be if perhaps surgery. Okay. Yeah, this could be Georgie. Um, all right. So, the que they land, they have to implant this kooey in themselves. Now, I think the thing is that it's a little weird that the que doesn't spread on its own, that they have to do it.

[00:47:28]>> Yeah, >> that to me seems odd because if we assume for a moment here that Okay, so what can Mooi do for sure? It can um uh change or adapt uh it's uh host adapt its it >> doing so good. I'm so proud of >> I it's hard. I'm typing and the buttons aren't fully working. Adapt it hosts um >> biology >> biology to suit um not Hoths. So we have a couple of things either this is something that is such a part of not Hoth's ecology that you don't even really notice it sort of the way that like um uh we have mitochondria right which is kind of a parasite bacteria that we just kind of is part of us now there's a lot of things in our biome of what we consider ourselves that are actually like things that latched on even like your gut fauna or flora. So that's one one option is theory one is uh uh native to all not flora >> fauna that's what I said. So it's just kind of a thing that they have.

[00:48:59]The thing about it that's odd though and so but then the thing is where do they get it from? Because the sec mentioned that if they have a kid, the kid needs to have one.

[00:49:08]>> Yeah. They And so they have >> And that's a little weird.

[00:49:10]>> And they have to hunt a specific giant mammoth guy. It's not actually a mammoth, but it's like the size of it, so I'm just going to say a mammoth.

[00:49:17]>> Um, and they have to take down this giant ass beast, which has a bunch of quez in it, >> and they just take one for the babyo, you know? So, like number one, we need to be cycle birthing. Like people need to be trying to, you know, have babies around the same time because like >> what happens to all the queens that are in this giant mammoth creature that they have to take down uh that don't go into unabo, you know, are are we wasting resources, which is immediately what it feels like to me. uh does this and is that part of what the limiting factor for children is that you know the the population of these if it's just this one creature cuz like I like the idea of it being like just part of the not Hoth >> endemic. Well, okay, here's the thing.

[00:50:07]Here's the thing. All right, I'm going to lay out my theory about it and we can decide to go down that path or another path.

[00:50:15]First, Maria, as someone who read the three body problem, >> what is the dark forest theorem or whatever it's called?

[00:50:24]>> The theory of the dark forest is that um >> space is a giant forest and if you hear something go creek in the night, the thing to do is to just kill it. uh and not assume maybe it's a friend or anything that to ensure your survival, anything that goes creek in the night in the dark forest, you kill. And it's the idea that if aliens exist um and we get proof of them or they get proof of us, the first thing to be done is to just kill it. So the best thing to do for survival is to make sure nobody else ever perceives you, >> right? because it's you're you are too it's too easy to be killed. You need to immediately kill anything else that show up.

[00:51:09]>> Exactly.

[00:51:10]>> And that is what the kooey is. The kooi is a boweapon, but it's a method of a boweapon that has a little bit of mercy in it. What you do is you shoot it at say Earth. The kooi lands, it starts to infect the inhabitants in the first stage. And what it does is it ties you into that planet. So you then can't start living you know it it makes it so that you adapt to the environment but are actually now tied to the environment and over generations it stops becoming invasive and starts to slowly shrink the population. So in early versions of the kooi infestation um you would you know it would spread on its own by about the point they've reached on not hoth it has now reached the point where not only is it not spreading on its own they have to go out and kill increasingly large fauna in a non-sustainable manner to survive.

[00:52:03]And so it slowly withers um an enemy in in on their home planet um in a way that is kind of uh like oh we didn't send a nuke over there. You know what I mean?

[00:52:14]It's like, ooh, it's secret. Secret secret.

[00:52:16]>> Yeah.

[00:52:17]>> As you said in a couple of reviews. So, that's my theory. And that this is a planet that at some point the inhabitants of got hit by this boweapon >> and they all died out and it just got left on the planet. And then when the sake come that it's in that more mature phase where it's slowing down. Like to to reproduce you need to kill an apex uh herbivore of massive size. this is not reasonable for a large scale population.

[00:52:45]And so it I mean I love that because it plays beautifully into that dark forest theory of like instead of just eradicating we just [ __ ] population so they never get to the point where they are techn technologically advanced enough to be a problem because they just have to focus on survival and the because that's one of the things that in the actual book once you take a quee you can't leave not Hoth >> uh you are now biologically bound to it.

[00:53:10]So >> exactly.

[00:53:12]>> So the the que is a a a two cuz like the other thing we have to think of is that the qui when it gets there it makes you bound to the planet. Um but how does the cuz that means that once you put a qui in someone in that initial stage it has to change the it it's doing two things.

[00:53:33]Number one it has to change whatever. So let's use humans. The a qui is sent to earth. It has to change humans. And so now we are now biologically dependent on something on Earth. So maybe the que also secretes a specific thing into the atmosphere that makes cuz because that's one of the things you have to think of is like why how does it force the population to become tied to it? Maybe the qui initially because it's in such large numbers secretes something into the atmosphere that fundamentally changes the atmosphere of the world and thus you know humans have to get a quee to survive. So, cuz like the people who send the que can be like two things are going to happen. Either you take the qui and you now become bi like that's how you survive or you just die because nobody takes the que and so it's an easy >> well that could be why why you find the qui in nonsensient fauna is that that's when they take onto the fauna they start making them like fart more or whatever the gas thing that you can't have on hoff is. Those are like the generators for it is the normal fauna of the environment.

[00:54:37]>> Oh, I love this. And then uh you >> and then actually the big uh the big not mammoths that they hunt those were the former inhabitants of the plant the sentient species and they've been degraded down into a herbivore state.

[00:54:51]>> God that's crazy. Um so like coffee or nicotine and then somebody Henrique also said it's just like mitochondria. I >> mention mitochondria. Um I think that makes a lot of sense. I And honestly, I love that because it it makes this big scary sci-fi world that has more of like a subtle horror to it cuz like the Ruby Dixon definitely had some scary aliens in the sense that like that the first book opens with a needlessly traumatic >> I got a hair in my mouth for no reason.

[00:55:26]Where did it come from? Assault scene.

[00:55:28]>> I love when that happens and you have no idea where are they floating in the air.

[00:55:31]When did they get there?

[00:55:33]I haven't done anything. Um, but the the uh where was that? What was I saying?

[00:55:41]Remind me. I got >> You were saying Jackson has some dark stuff with which by the way we I now have an explanation for, but go ahead.

[00:55:48]Yeah, the the like the slaver aliens who are grabbing women to take to like other planets and sell like do assault women in a really terrible like it's it's a weirdly shocking scene especially compared tonally to the rest of the book. And I find this kind of alien horror uh like number one more tasteful but also creepier because it's this like >> well it grapples with the themes of sci-fi the dark forest of the trees or whatever it's called that I've already forgotten again somehow despite it being 5 minutes.

[00:56:24]>> It's so funny. Val said something the other day about how I always say things slightly to the left of what the thing is >> almost every time.

[00:56:30]>> It's totally true.

[00:56:32]>> I just you know what I I I go for it. I myself.

[00:56:36]>> My my uncle Steve, he'll be like, "Uh, we need to go to the crockpot." And it's called the Mason jar or like any It's always He's always just slightly LIKE YOU CAN TELL THAT he was associating the thing and it's not completely off, but you're you're like >> the what? Where are we going?

[00:56:55]>> The what?

[00:56:57]>> Um, okay. So, it is a a bio weapon designed to slowly stifle um a sensient species's um ability to explore the universe.

[00:57:19]Um I think this is also explains it's also a bit of a hive mind. This is what the resonance is. They only notice it the most when they're sexually aroused, but the kooey are talking to each other and using it as a network, like nodes in a network. So that's how they slowly kind of make go through this life form that I talked about. It's like a genesteeler called in Warhammer. Yeah, that's right. What's up? Um I I did it.

[00:57:44]I brought in the geneestalers.

[00:57:45]>> Yeah, you did.

[00:57:46]>> Um uh uh yeah, so that's what it's doing there now. And this also explains why those aliens were kidnapping women.

[00:57:58]So these aliens, right, >> I'm not sure if we're going to they're they're the same aliens who sent the bioweapon or maybe they're different aliens, but they're looking at where this bioweapon has been sent sequentially. So they know that not hawk is kind of close to Earth. So they need to save some of the biological um individualness. And they're taking like a sample of Earth before its biology is stifled by this boweapon.

[00:58:27]>> Oh, and maybe they have they're not really slaves. They're just like zoo animals.

[00:58:32]>> I love this much more. This is this I think is a much better thing than, you know, aliens like to [ __ ] other uh aliens, you know.

[00:58:43]>> I mean, in the known universe, there's no more erotic form than the white woman. But go ahead.

[00:58:48]I'm so [ __ ] dead.

[00:58:50]>> If sci-fi has taught us nothing, >> I'm [ __ ] dead. Um, but I love I love that cuz like taking the and also seeing like if any tweaks need to be made to the que uh >> to infect Earth effectively. So maybe they didn't just take humans, but they also took samples of some fauna and you know how like maybe that's how the que reproduce on the planets is also within certain and they pick ones that >> for me I I think it could also be though that they're trying to get the humans out of the way of an oncoming kooey boweapon like this is like oh [ __ ] we can't save the forest let's grab a couple monkeys before it burns down kind of a thing. So I feel like they could be like in a cold WAR WITH THE BIOWEAPON.

[00:59:35]>> OH, THESE ARE THESE ARE uh Oh, I love this. These are like um >> so we have the que boweapon people, aliens, and then we have the ones who are like we must, you know, study and conserve the >> Right. Exactly.

[00:59:51]>> Okay. Okay.

[00:59:53]>> And that's why when there's whatever the problem is with the ship, I don't remember, they drop off the humans instead of just killing them. Camela Line has a thing that says, uh, "Does the que still allow interspecies breeding? If so, is it an intentional design choice?" I think no. I think that this is a weird thing that kind of happened to the Kooi in the late stages of its um >> I agree. This is exactly what I was thinking >> is that it allows for a compatibility of two qui species together. Um, and there's some kind of that's the only way that these blue aliens would ever want to [ __ ] blue humans. So when Veal comes up and greets Georgie with oral, that really is how they say hello in Saki and he's only attracted to her after she gets the kooey.

[01:00:38]>> That's it. No, we can just remove that part.

[01:00:41]>> But >> it's like you don't even care about the books.

[01:00:43]>> It It's What would give you that idea?

[01:00:47]Um, so another thing is maybe the qui has it's been on not Hoth long enough that the the squee uh our our blue guys because they were not the intended recipients of the qui. Um, it has evolved a little bit where the qui is at a point it's mutated where the qui actually would like to continue to survive. So the qui is trying to reproduce more and the >> no here's what happened. Okay, it's a bioweapon. It goes in, it wipes them out, but something about nod hoth allows it to kind of stick around in the fauna.

[01:01:21]Not all the fauna is dying at the same rate. And the qui is designed to communicate with other queen nodes through the resonance and whale noises, right? But because it's been around longer than it was designed to, it's gaining sensient. It is now a hive. It's becoming a hive mind. And so this is the third alien species that in later books we realize, oh, the qui is itself a species. And it now wants something besides destruction. So when the original aliens who launched it come, we have a three-way alliance between the que, the sacki, and the human women in their shorty pajamas.

[01:01:57]>> Yep. In their shorty pajamas. And so now the qui is actually looking at building population and and that's that's the stage at which we land these women on not Hoth. the que has evolved past. And again, this is the kind of thing that like none of this would like you would have to be writing a very different book to get any of this information.

[01:02:18]>> What are you talking about? This could be they could talk about this in the middle of sex.

[01:02:22]>> Absolutely. But anyway, the that's the point at which uh this is beginning to happen. Um and uh and so the queen is actively trying to build a a population of intelligent hosts. So, not just the fauna, but intelligent hosts that it can use that it can survive better in and >> Exactly.

[01:02:45]>> And maybe also leech a little of their brain energy kind of like >> Exactly. for their own purpos.

[01:02:51]>> Exactly.

[01:02:51]>> Yeah. They kind of like they take a little bit of it so that they can now have more sensience to talk to each other.

[01:02:56]>> Exactly. It could even function as kind of like a a >> a subconscious gestalt intelligence and where people could start to talk to each other in dreams. You could have Luke Skywalker show up because he is the um archetype in these women's minds of what a hero is. So that's how the que decide to manifest themselves in dreams is as Luke Skywalker because it's a young archetype.

[01:03:18]>> We've gone too far. We've gone too far.

[01:03:20]We've >> everything I just said makes perfect sense and you know it.

[01:03:24]>> I mean it it it would, but I think we've gone too far.

[01:03:27]>> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Um but yeah, no, so I think that I think that ties in. I think that's why um the women Yeah. They get there and they the que kind of have now gotten enough intelligence.

[01:03:40]>> Hen Henrika says, "OMG, each woman has a different hero image."

[01:03:46]>> This is >> Would the queen be able to communicate just through sex easier? It could also be any kind of physical maybe. Yeah, you know, that's a good point. Maybe the way it talks is through sex. Like that's the purest form of communication between que nodes. And so that's we have orgy conversations and that's why it that's that's why it makes everyone horny. It makes everyone horny because then it can up its intelligence faster >> and also make more babies for it to infect. Um, and maybe one of the things it's trying to do is trying to get like if we need to bring some intelligence into the species as far as like the the Saqui so that it can start like, you know, doing better at getting qui in a more effective way, you know, like like maybe the the Saqui are at the the the dawn of a new intelligence age and maybe like down the line, like 300 years in the future, the human Saqui uh you know think they they've created better ways to produce the que and now the the the que human saw triangle has turned into a brand new species that is now off into space that will bump heads with the original que creators and it will be like an allout war that I'm saying oh my god I love it >> right >> what >> that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying >> delicious >> they could have sex firefights >> also I I think we need to have men. I think when the the cons conservationist aliens No, hear me out. No, shut up. Hear me out. Men suck.

[01:05:23]>> No, I don't give a [ __ ] >> I I don't give a [ __ ] There the conser the conservation aliens take some men because they're like, "We'll breed the humans in our own personal little thing, so we'll take the men as well, and then we can start having some romances between male humans and saw women who are done." And partially because they are done real [ __ ] dirty in these book series. There's so few of them and they aren't getting any fun times. And that way we can have a more like balanced development of all of this stuff and and you know I and that way we could have books written from the point of view of Saqui women.

[01:06:03]>> I think patriarchy is bad. I'm just going to say that right. I think patriarchy is bad. I think women good.

[01:06:11]Um, yeah. Second says, "Oh, straight lame." Yeah, that was my immediate thought was, "Oh, wow. They're going to get a bunch of blue cat guys with their twinks who can now be impregged." Um, yeah, but I I'm happy that Maria is so innocent. She didn't immediately think of that. Um, >> I mean, you could do that as well.

[01:06:29]There's an audience. No butt babies. No butt babies.

[01:06:33]>> There's no butt babies. Hygiene. The queen does make canonically biological differences.

[01:06:38]>> Yeah. So, so cuz Blue Jay does say, "Wait, hang on, that's a good question.

[01:06:42]Can the que cause impreg to be possible?" If there was only males of another species, >> I mean, the thing is it hasn't done it with the sake. So, >> maybe that's because it's developed like they've they've created too much of a like ability for the sock stuck in its ways.

[01:06:59]>> Yes. And the ability for the the que to genetically adjust the saw outside of just the cold and that stuff is not cuz like one of the things the que does to the human ladies remember this it fixes infertility.

[01:07:14]It cures true cancer and we know that the que could not save all the other ladies like so I think that the biological adjustments that the que can make on the socki are very limited and that it is by the grace of those conservationist aliens who dropped the women because now the que they can do whatever the [ __ ] they want to make these women. So, not only is it >> by the time the women have arrived, they're they're more sensient and they become more of an invasive like oh presence and this is new biioaterial that they >> exactly that they can actually manipulate because they haven't as they've developed they've developed to the squee and they can no longer do the things that they could have done before but now the humans show up. So, I say they could if they wanted to. If if it had only been male humans that showed up to this planet, the Saki could have gotten it done.

[01:08:06]>> Or not the Squi, the que could have gotten done.

[01:08:09]>> I mean, I the queen what we're doing, but they could do it.

[01:08:13]>> I I do have a soft spot for the queen in my head as some kind of weird Zerg species. Um, >> okay. I mean, I think we cracked this wide open.

[01:08:22]>> I think we've cracked it wide the [ __ ] open.

[01:08:24]>> I think we all now know. Well, we never answered. What is the dick spur for then? Um, >> that's kind of okay. Okay. So, it's either one of two things. It's either to encourage it. One thing that it could be is that the que kind of knew humans were around.

[01:08:42]Maybe the aliens accidentally sent a human really a long time ago to where the Sakqui are and so it was tuning up for when the human women did arrive kind of style like it kind of knew it was coming. Or it could be I was thinking maybe like a um a USB to an extent or like a tuning fork.

[01:09:01]>> Oh boy.

[01:09:02]>> Because if they're communicating through sex then Yeah.

[01:09:05]>> Yeah. I mean that >> Oh, it protects the keen from the lady tail spikes.

[01:09:09]>> It's a defense of me them. Yeah. It it it it maybe and it and that way it keeps the tail from getting Oh MY GOD. WE'VE CRACKED IT.

[01:09:20]>> We've cracked it.

[01:09:21]>> We [ __ ] four.

[01:09:23]>> Yes.

[01:09:24]>> Defensive. It's a shield.

[01:09:25]>> No, theory four was a >> or theory five.

[01:09:29]>> Theory five, it's a shield and it's no longer necessary because like it's not like you know the biologically the way the suck we have sex have kind of progressed past that. So it is vestigual but that's what its original purpose was >> to protect from the tail.

[01:09:46]>> That's it. I am [ __ ] >> wow.

[01:09:50]>> I mean what can we say more than this?

[01:09:53]Uh, you know, we came up with theories and we found one that works, that fits all of the evidence. Yes, Jojo Bean is very cute, guys. Look at that little guy.

[01:10:01]>> Jojo Bean, are you mama's boy?

[01:10:07]>> Voice of the wilderness says, "I was not quite prepared for the amount of new fetishes I have learned about."

[01:10:14]>> Are we ever?

[01:10:16]>> Let me tell you, I think this was excellent.

[01:10:22]are rigorous standards of science.

[01:10:24]>> This episode is care about science.

[01:10:27]>> We go where the evidence leads. We were given a few points and like good archaeologists. We created theories. We tried them out. We figured [ __ ] out.

[01:10:39]>> And then Blue Jay says, "I think we've invented some along the way."

[01:10:43]>> New fetishes. Yeah.

[01:10:44]>> Um, okay. I really don't know what else we could do. I was going to go into like maybe how the women the que over generations would shape them to be more ice friendly, but I don't really think that's as interesting.

[01:10:55]>> No, I think I think this is the high point. Like, you know, when you've like hit that high point and you leave you just >> Yeah.

[01:11:02]>> This is it. This perfection.

[01:11:05]>> Yeah. No, this is it. This is the high point. You leave the party when the party's going good.

[01:11:09]>> You don't wait for it to suck. I We We acknowledge the excellent work we've done. And also again, chat, thank you on fire.

[01:11:17]>> Chat was chat was fire. Yeah, >> fire.

[01:11:20]>> This will be uploaded as a as a video and not a live stream. But next time, guys, join us for more rewrites. It is a lot of fun to have these be uh uh live.

[01:11:31]Uh what other ones did I have planned?

[01:11:33]Let me see if I can grab >> But I I think we should do these at least like once every two months, if not, you know, cuz it's just what a time, guys. I mean, there was also it is like less plagas. That's true.

[01:11:50]From Resident Evil 4. That's the picture I should have gotten. Um, I didn't think of that till now. Never mind. You don't know what I'm talking about.

[01:11:55]>> I don't know what you're talking about.

[01:11:58]>> Uh, which ones? I don't know. This one came to me just cuz it was like it was such a brilliant idea. I don't know that I necessarily had good ideas for other ones. Rewrite candidates. We have for the trio, we have Acatar, Fourth Wing, Six of Crows. I thought would be good.

[01:12:12]Uh for the dynamic duo, that's me and Maria. Uh ice planet barbarians. We've now done >> Yeah.

[01:12:17]>> Titanic squirrel bot.

[01:12:19]>> Uh vampires. These uh and then for all girls, these. But this wasn't really I I feel like this was fun because this was a unique >> This wasn't even necessarily like a rewrite. It was more like a You're right, like a speculative exploration, >> contextualization. Exactly. Exactly.

[01:12:38]>> But if you guys have any ideas for good ones, just let us know in the comments.

[01:12:41]That would be a lot of fun.

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