Court Erupts as Missing SAPS Occurrence Book Becomes Central Issue!

Added: 2026-05-17

[00:00:05]is not only about the registers themselves.

[00:00:09]It's also about the information that is contained in the register because amongst others there's a there's a there's a it is not so clear as to who received Mr. Intanzi when he arrived there at Feria.

[00:00:27]So without that register it's cumbersome to determine who is the person that should actually be identified as a recipient of there at at fid area and that is the person who should actually account to a lot of issues that I think Mr. is still having and probably some of us as a defense here are still having my lord unless the state is in a position to say this is the person who received him there to a greater extent that will minimize all that which is happening here and that information my lord can only be contained in the register so it's it's not entire entirely accurate to suggest that other registers are helpful in respect of what the state has just indicated Because we also want the identity of that person who received him as per the evidence of colon here that there's a person who he's been handed to and that person takes him into custody. So we don't know who that person is. That is also the gist of everything that we want to get.

[00:01:36]Without those registers we we we we just flying to nowhere.

[00:01:59]Father as So you guys are not able to make head or tail of that. In other words, >> we we are not a custodian of the books.

[00:02:40]those people.

[00:02:41]>> You know what? Let me tell you, let me let me tell you what you you guys should do.

[00:02:46]Go and get the registers of Valaria, right? Valaria and go and get the pay slips of the persons in Valaria.

[00:02:59]You will determine who was paid what on what day and who was employed at what.

[00:03:06]Are you with me?

[00:03:08]>> Just just just do that. So simple.

[00:03:11]Jesus.

[00:03:13]Jesus.

[00:03:38]So what do you want to do >> as it pleases the court? My lord, my lord, maybe if I may assist in that respect, there's also what is called an SAPS 15 >> and SAPS 15 will tell us >> who was working on that day on that shift who received >> uh the the the suspects not only mantans >> quite >> so if that can be also tried to be assetated whether it can be obtained that will assist greatly my lord but >> what yeah but how do you want to go about it now.

[00:04:11]>> Malot, the the the the arm of the state is here. I I see they can run around and try Valeria is 10 minutes away. Mot my lord over and above what advocate says as the canel testified yesterday amongst the things that must be noted when a suspect is received is not only the property or whatever Mr. was saying it can assist us with regarding to SAP 13 and his propert. It's about his condition. Was he in a good condition?

[00:04:46]Was he assaulted? Was he fine? And what did the person that received him say in that respect in the OB itself?

[00:04:54]record, please.

[00:05:49]Yeah, but we know you know what I was listening to the evidence. We know for instance the lady there and I'm not I'm not saying you must give that evidence. Didn't you bring Mr. Tanzi at Valaria.

[00:06:06]>> My god. Uh he was detained at Valeria but not by who but by Sergeant >> right there's somebody who brought him there. Is that >> correct?

[00:06:16]>> So we know him. So what is the problem?

[00:06:19]Sergeant Mola is that the gentleman the big gentleman? Yes.

[00:06:27]Number two is raising up his hand. My lord, >> so what do we how do you guys intend doing it? Because you must tell me what you want to do.

[00:06:55]But we having a discussion on that with the state would probably request just I think we're not far from each other.

[00:07:15]>> Yeah. because even even the the register of the cells it's there and Mr. Nanzi is the first time he came to that police station.

[00:07:28]Is that not so?

[00:07:29]>> That is so >> Yes. So I mean it's so simple this thing. So you go to the register of the cells you go and then the guys who signed the registers authorizing that Raak was not assaulted they are there and we know the date Mr. Nani came there it was the 16th or whatever >> so so how do we go about this Mr. But wait.

[00:07:59]>> Well, firstly, the the the issue that is currently debate being debated relates to the 2nd of July 2020. Not not on the day when he was >> Yeah. Fine. Fine. remember he's been through >> two different police station Ptoria North >> Ptoria M and this was the third police station >> uh on the >> on on on on on the 2nd of July 2020 >> um and yeah well my colleagues say um it is important to them but as you say he's been through two different police stations Um but yeah we we we we um you know we can't take it further than that. Um >> okay so do we agend or you let me know July 2020.

[00:09:33]So what's the way forward?

[00:09:38]This is my lord. I think the suggestion of advocate that we engage with the state and then fine let the honorable court know.

[00:09:46]>> All right.

[00:09:47]>> That's the decision.

[00:09:48]>> Okay. You let me know when you're through.

[00:09:49]>> Yes.