“Milimani Court Left Silent After Dr. Gikonyo’s Bold Statement on Gachagua!”

Added: 2026-05-13

[00:00:01]raised by Dr. Theonulu that Dr. Gono was hiding the first petitioner that was posted and I'm not sure that Dr. Go was given the opportunity to respond.

[00:00:19]>> Why don't you respond uh when you in my response?

[00:00:24]>> Just for the record, the witness answered and he said his answer was to laugh.

[00:00:31]We'll deal with it. Has to deal with it.

[00:00:34]We'll deal with it. Yes. Thank you.

[00:00:50]HEAT. HEAT.

[00:01:34]We only have about three or four this week. I I don't think I have much.

[00:01:41]Good morning.

[00:01:43]My name is Kelly. I represent the health response. I've been committed by senior council professor to ask one or two questions on behalf of the Senate. Thank you, sir. Now, uh I had your last comment to be that you are not sure and this goes to Dr.'s very last statement. You're not sure whether you have access to the Senate.

[00:02:12]That's what I heard you say.

[00:02:13]>> Yes, I said so, sir.

[00:02:22]Now, the affidavit that you presented before court is sworn on the 28th of April, 2026.

[00:02:33]>> That's correct.

[00:02:33]>> That's correct.

[00:02:35]>> Do you recall When the first petitioner was impeached, >> not the exact date, but I believe the same day that he came to hospital.

[00:02:45]>> The same day that he came in to hospital.

[00:02:48]>> Would that be the 17th of October 2024?

[00:02:53]>> Most likely. So, sir, >> most likely.

[00:02:56]>> This is about We then receive your affidavit in court about 1 and a half years. That is correct.

[00:03:03]>> After he has been impeached. That's correct.

[00:03:11]Now going back to your evidence and I'll be very brief on that.

[00:03:16]When asked a question on whether the documents you presented would have been presented to the Senate.

[00:03:27]Um your answer was the request has come.

[00:03:30]Now that is what I had you to answer to one of Dr. question.

[00:03:35]>> Yes, that's why I'm here today.

[00:03:36]>> The request has come now.

[00:03:37]>> That's why I'm here today, sir.

[00:03:38]>> So, so, so the request Dr. Dr. to file the affidavit and the attached documents has come now. That is what you said.

[00:03:49]Yes.

[00:03:49]>> Yes. I I mean, yes.

[00:03:52]>> From whom did you receive the request?

[00:03:55]>> From the petitioner. You >> received the request from the petitioner?

[00:03:59]>> Yes.

[00:04:05]Do you recall? Do you know when the petitioner first filed the petition? Might you know?

[00:04:12]>> No, I don't.

[00:04:16]And I'm not interested.

[00:04:19]>> You you you're giving evidence and you're not interested in in the context of a petition in which you have no interest. Is that what you're telling the court?

[00:04:27]>> Yes, madam. He appearing on a medical issue, not on a court issue.

[00:04:33]That is startling that I must say it means in my view you probably don't understand the reason you're here but I went on uh you have also and this is my last question m very brief you have also confirmed that you do not know whether the affidavit and the documents attached were before the senate do you have any information on Not at all. You don't have any information on it.

[00:05:04]>> And I agree with you. Sometimes I really don't know why I'm here because my understanding is I'm here to answer medical questions about the petitioner in hospital about law things and compensating. So I am ignorant. So anybody does anybody um You cannot tell the court from what I understood whether the affidavit and the documents presented to me sorry the the affidavit sworn by yourself on the 28th of were before the Senate at the time of the impeachment prosecution.

[00:05:45]>> I wouldn't know you know I have no interest in those matters.

[00:05:50]>> That's okay. That's okay. We understand that you do not know why you're here. Uh madam those have been my very brief questions on behalf of the Senate. Uh I beg to thank you my lord we had Dr. Cam to ask just two questions then the witness can be reexamined if you permit please.

[00:06:21]My lord, um there was no affidavit filed by Dr. um Camo >> and um you have given directions before the commencement of this process.

[00:06:33]>> Let's let Dr. Kamoto speak for himself.

[00:06:35]Dr. Kamoto, did you file any affidavity?

[00:06:41]>> Yes, my lady.

[00:06:45]>> Did you file any affidavity? We we have uh put our responses we we a joint approach to this matter we have a joint approach to this matter and that's why you find my but not every one of us makes submissions or presentations of occasion >> I think I think while you could be correct if I allow you then there's no basis why I not allow the other side because they could also just harm on that on that I think for clarity or purpose uh I don't think it's fair to allow me to proceed to question my lord I'll proceed with the reexamination of Dr. Gono very quickly Dr. I'll refer you to paragraph 11 of your affidavit.

[00:07:48]>> Yes, honor >> on the reason why you filed the affidavit.

[00:07:54]Could you come clear or clarify why you saw this affidavit referring to paragraph 11? Your honor, that is the way I understood it until you was me to understand that had to other things of the Senate and other court matters because as far as I'm concerned, your honor, that paragraph summarizes why that I make this aid in my capacity as a medical expert, not a legal expert in adult cardiology to assist this honorable court in establishing that the first petitioner was duly admitted to hospital on the date in question underwent treatment. That is was my understanding >> and you had earlier confirmed that the contents of what your affidavit were true >> completely >> to the best of your knowledge >> completely. I took a note on that. uh just to clarify a few issues that have propped up during cross examination and I will go back to paragraph 4 paragraph 4 of your affidavit and I'll be direct this time around because it pro uh cropped up is there any admission issues in paragraph 4?

[00:09:12]>> None at all.

[00:09:13]>> Thank you. So at 300 p.m. on 17th of October 2024, what exactly happened?

[00:09:20]>> At around 3:00 p.m. is the word.

[00:09:24]>> Approximately is the word.

[00:09:26]>> Yes.

[00:09:27]>> If you want to know the exact time, it was 3:25. I have it.

[00:09:30]>> What happened?

[00:09:31]>> Around that time is when the petitioner arrived in hospital.

[00:09:34]>> Thank you.

[00:09:35]>> We took him in. We started the normal thing that we do for history taking, taking his weight, blood pressure and such. At that time, if you allow me to explain, it's the time of we start now the admission process.

[00:09:49]>> And admission is a process, not an instant.

[00:09:54]And as we are doing those things, there are accountants asking who's going to pay for this blah blah. And when they are ready, then they fix on the computer. This man is now admitted.

[00:10:04]>> So when was he admitted? According to our document here 4:18 p.m. That is when the actual documentation of admissions were completed.

[00:10:18]These are technical details of timing and writing. Before that time we are still seeing the client. We are doing the necessary things but is technically not admitted because the accountants have not allowed us to do that.

[00:10:32]>> Thank you. Um I'll refer you to page 104 of the discharge summary and on the top the patient name is Mr. RG. Who is RG?

[00:10:47]Uh you know your honor if you come to hospital and you an ordinary citizen we put your full names and all your other names.

[00:10:57]There are clients we don't put names on record.

[00:11:02]>> My lord, we still object that evidence is extrinsic to the record. It is inadmissible and my good colleague here knows that question is also impermissible.

[00:11:15]The question was actually raised in cross examination and what we are seeking is a clarification on who RG is and your honor I have said our practice in a hospital to protect because these documents go out hospitals uh the parasite positive blah blah for we use codes asking who is the honorable Okay. Is there any other identification information in that document? Have a look.

[00:11:51]Is there any other identification information with respect to that without necessarily reading it out?

[00:11:59]>> There's a mobile telephone number also.

[00:12:01]>> Thank you.

[00:12:07]Would you confirm whether there's any discrepancy between the affidavit and DKG3 the discharge summary?

[00:12:25]>> Not at all.

[00:12:26]>> Thank you.

[00:12:28]And lastly is DKRG.

[00:12:33]What what document is DKRG? Because there's been an allegation of a medical support.

[00:12:40]What is DKRG?

[00:12:42]>> It's a ded summary.

[00:12:43]>> It's a district summary.

[00:12:45]>> It's not a medical report.

[00:12:47]A medical report gives details that may not necessarily be required by this court.

[00:12:54]But if required, your honor, it's available.

[00:12:58]>> And in your discharge summary, you were confirming what you did to in paragraph 11 on the purpose of the affidavity.

[00:13:05]>> Absolutely your honor, >> which is admission, discharge, and treatment.

[00:13:09]>> Absolutely.

[00:13:10]>> Thank you, your honor. That's all.

[00:13:15]Just one very brief question Dr. Gooo.

[00:13:19]It was put to you by Dr. Kongu that you admitted the petitioner his excellency to hide him suggesting he wasn't seen and I think he responded by laughing.

[00:13:40]Now that you have finished laughing, will you please answer the question was regarding sick or not sick? Why are you hiding it in your hospital? Please answer. It is a serious question. I must say I laugh because I thought it was not a serious question because maybe it is not common sense but however the answer yes he was sick we admitted him we have data that's available to any medical person we have medical reports we have traces of his ECG his echos everything lab data that's available and available on demand by this court >> and apart from the documents Dr. On your you are here as a doctor his doctor who was treating him >> your honor that's why you called me to answer those questions I have answered to the affirmative I was the one who was treating him with my team he was sick we have data we have provided an evidence if there's any further questions we provide it that's why not your issue >> thank you Dr. uh for coming to clarify those issues.

[00:15:00]You may now take your seat.

[00:15:08]My lord, can Dr. be released as a witness? I will say that he can take his seat. Okay. He can be here or he can go home.

[00:15:23]I don't think there's water.

[00:15:39]Is that your water?

[00:15:43]>> She is my lady. Again we are now in the proper business uh of uh submissions and I I'm ready to proceed to any other direction that what is the kind of direction that you will be seeking in relation to procedure m if it was for the court we would want to have the remaining part of the day for us as the respondents try and push and possibly conclude uh our submissions. We also hope that if time allows we could then have any uh responses so that the matter is closed today. But uh I think what we'll be asking for specifically is about we not go beyond 8 hours on the side on the outer side. We're talking about 8 hours and we're talking about concluding today about 10 p.m. But I want to get a direction so that we also know how to budget and plan as to when we'll be ending so that we know which testimonies you take and whether or not uh you want to have us uh progress with the submissions this morning.

[00:17:04]Next department.

[00:17:41]I think Mr. Bumbo before we give directions we want to know how many of you will be addressing the court and what directions do you require with respect to the cross examination?