THE CHRISTIAN GOD DOESN'T EXIST @kylodebates VS MATTHEW ‪- FIGHT NIGHT FRIDAYS

Added: 2026-05-10

[00:00:00][music] [music] [music] >> Yeah. Okay, so given that so the Christian God does not exist.

[00:00:25]Okay, Matthew, you're the affirmative.

[00:00:26]So you're going to get 3 minutes on the clock to do your opening statement. It starts in I receive your first word.

[00:00:33]First word. So this is going to be a bit off the dome on some of this, but we'll see how this works. So given the the position of the the Catholic God specifically is the one we're discussing here. One of the requirements for that God is going to be that it has its creation with the position of free will.

[00:00:47]This is going to be necessary for many of the beliefs that are held within Catholicism.

[00:00:51]So P1 libertarian free will is a requirement for the Catholic position. P2 libertarian free will does not exist.

[00:01:00]Conclusion the Catholic position does not exist in the way that is described.

[00:01:05]Supporting evidence for this position would be basic definitions of libertarian free will being the ability or the the agent being the ultimate originator for choice that is not fully determinant or reducible down to randomness or probability.

[00:01:21]In the case that I we're stuck with the position of ontologies that leaves us with a position of either determinant or indeterminate or determinant not determinant based on the law of excluded middle. Any determinant position of choice making would be fully determinant therefore not the agents authorship on the choice or you're left in an indeterminate position where choice becomes reducible to probability or randomness.

[00:01:50]Therefore libertarian free will does not exist in the Catholic position [clears throat] is falsified.

[00:01:55]Okay. Are you concluding your closing your opening statement there?

[00:01:59]I conclude it there.

[00:02:01]Okay. With that that's going to end your countdown and then Kylo you got 3 minutes to do your opening statement.

[00:02:08]>> [sighs] >> All right, man.

[00:02:10]So I mean first of all as we all heard this [ __ ] just gave an invalid argument, but I'll press that in a second. Nevertheless like just to give my own opening the opening will be quick and concise and it goes as such. Today's debate Matthew have to show that it is a case Catholicism is false by any means such as sound argument, probabilistic case, or something I'm unaware of that suffices the burden. All as I have to do is critique the argument such a manner which renders the conclusion one faulty.

[00:02:43]Um And I'm just expecting this guy to get blown the F out, but nevertheless let's get right into it.

[00:02:50]Okay. Let's get to conclude Kylo's opening statement. And so now it's going to be an 8-minute open discussion both of you have to establish your positions or destroy the opponent's position and so your 8 minutes will start now. Okay, what was the inference rule?

[00:03:11]Modus ponens will work.

[00:03:13]Okay, wait. What do you think modus ponens is?

[00:03:16]It's an IF-THEN STATEMENT. WAIT.

[00:03:19]>> [screaming] >> YOU THINK THAT'S A CONDITIONAL?

[00:03:22]OH MY GOD, Matthew Matthew Matthew Matthew Matthew. You have to remember Matthew was not Wait, hold on. This is a 1v1, but Matthew bro this is being This is being recorded.

[00:03:34]You're embarrassing.

[00:03:37]Fallacy? That's not Wait, is that question erotetically valid?

[00:03:41]My argumentation if there is no fallacy within my argumentation >> valid? That That question is not erotetically valid.

[00:03:48]>> you a question. Let me apply my critique to the argument.

[00:03:51]I don't know why should I say that clarity question was invalid because that clarity question presupposes internal semantics, right? Well, I don't accept that, right? I don't accept that distinction, right? Between blah blah blah. Nevertheless let's get into the objection.

[00:04:04]Your mic's cutting out. I'm sorry your Boost Mobile. Your your Verizon's cutting out. I can't hear you with that [ __ ] Barack Obama flip phone you got, but maybe you need to get turn some light connection buy some hotspot.

[00:04:25]Wait.

[00:04:27]Wait. [laughter] Wait. Guys. Guys. Guys.

[00:04:28]Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Hold on. Sky turns to the robo man. Guys, wait. Hold on. Pause the timer.

[00:04:32]>> Can you get back to substance, please?

[00:04:35]Um Matthew is your connection good? We have to check real quick and then we can get back to it.

[00:04:42]I know why you blunder like that, Kylo.

[00:04:44]That was funny. I know.

[00:04:45]>> [laughter] >> Wait. Hold on. Hold on guys. We have to check the connection and then we can get back to it. Otherwise it won't. Okay, it's spotty, but we'll be fine. Okay, I'm going to reset the timer at 7 minutes.

[00:04:56]Um and then you guys can go back at it.

[00:04:59]So let me get that timer right. Okay, I didn't finish my critique, boss. So this is this is really simple. You're not finishing your rhetoric on rhetoric.

[00:05:09]Bro, he's staying with talking to me.

[00:05:11]That my argument was not valid. What about my argument was invalid?

[00:05:16]Okay, so stop. Right. When I say the argument's invalid, that's just me licensed to say that in virtue of some no CM inference, right? Nevertheless, right? When I ask you and don't overtalk me I can feel you getting ready to speak. When I ask you what's the inference rule, you said modus ponens.

[00:05:31]I ask you what's a modus >> [laughter] >> I SAID WHAT'S A MODUS PONENS AND YOU GAVE ME A CONDITIONAL.

[00:05:38]Modus ponens. Let's go ahead and say I don't know I don't know what modus ponens is. What is invalid about my argumentation? I've already told you I don't prima facie take it to be valid. I'm in the middle of a response. Why is your sentence interrupting the middle of my sentence?

[00:05:55]Why is the beginning of your sentence interrupting Wait. Wait. I was not even talking 5 seconds before you interrupted me.

[00:06:02]So you said what about my argument is invalid? Kylo, stop just filibustering.

[00:06:07]I'm in the middle of a sentence though.

[00:06:08]You haven't answered my question. I asked you. That question is not erotetically valid.

[00:06:14]You ignored my and then tried to talk about something that has nothing to do with the argument. So again, you said my argument's invalid.

[00:06:21]Where is it invalid? Okay, now Kylo answer. Thank you. So for one the question's erotetically unsound. For two I've already explicated how I'm licensed to say this is invalid given the no CM Wait. Please stop. Stop. Stop. You're lying and wasting your own time. Mostly yourself. Conduct yourself. Matthew have some decorum. You're a grown man.

[00:06:42]I'm just going to waste time here. This is so stupid, dude. I would have been done with the coco. I would have been done 5 He's not addressing the argument. He can't conduct himself. Control yourself.

[00:06:50]Address the argument, Kylo. I do have to mute both parties, but it's both of your time. So it's both you guys have an equal rights to this time.

[00:07:00]Exactly. So stop telling people to shut up. It won't be productive if you're overtalking me. But let let's make some production or Let's make some progress and don't address the argument.

[00:07:10]>> Let's make some progress in the in the argument. So for the sake of charity we know you can't make it valid, but let's say it is. Okay, let's say the argument's valid, right? Now what would be Please. Please. We're just We're granting it's valid for the sake of productivity.

[00:07:26]Hold on. Your Boost Mobile's cutting back out. Just hold on a sec.

[00:07:30]Okay, so here's my problem. I don't accept premise one. Do you have a justification?

[00:07:36]Oh my God, like Like dude, you're on Cricket Wireless trying to go back and forth.

[00:07:42]Hold on. What's the reason to believe premise one? Yeah, you said that Catholicism I'm about to recapitulate if you stop yelling like an angry kid. So premise one states and I quote Catholicism entails or Catholicism requires or Catholicism is one which necessitates free will, right? No, I don't accept that to be valid.

[00:08:03]Are you stupid? When I say in I quote that's not to say you're recapitulating it directly, but that's just to say you're giving a summary of what you had heard what you had said. In I quote is saying you're going to repeat verbatim what you had said.

[00:08:14]>> That's not how I take in I quote to be.

[00:08:15]So we just have a different meaning of the term.

[00:08:18]You're a clown. You're getting optically beat up right now.

[00:08:21]>> You don't know what a quote is. Funny.

[00:08:22]Okay. No, you're just equivocating. So tell me how does Catholicism not require some form of libertarian free will?

[00:08:29]>> You made the claim that it does. So that's the justification required on you. You have the burden to prove. Go ahead.

[00:08:34]Yes, it's required for a position of sin. It's required for choosing That's begging the question.

[00:08:39]I'm I'm not begging a question. I'm giving I'm giving positions. Holy stutter. Are you nervous? Interrupting me is not begging the question. So again this is going to be required to be able to choose to sin. This is going to be required Prove that. Prove that. This is going to be required Prove any of that.

[00:08:59]Now who's the person that's talking?

[00:09:01]Now who's doing a lot of talking now?

[00:09:05]Uh-oh. Any of these things happen Holy [ __ ] Guy can't even afford a hotspot, but he's trying to debate the big bro Kylo. Nevertheless like that's his burden, right? He has the burden to show that Catholicism requires free will. Kylo, let's wait till he gets his internet connection back to be fair.

[00:09:25]Chill, dude. Can we get this guy a Galaxy so he can buy some Your rhetoric, Maxim, doesn't do [ __ ] No, it makes you look optically worse.

[00:09:34]Okay, you good to go, Matthew?

[00:09:37]Matthew, fix your line of reasoning if anything needs to be fixed.

[00:09:45]Oh my God, Coco. As I already stated, there's going to be a requirement for the agent to be the ultimate originator of choice. What the [ __ ] >> [laughter] >> is that word?

[00:09:57]WHAT WAS THAT WORD?

[00:09:59]THE AGENT TO BE the ultimate originator There you go. Take your time. You're trying to talk so fast that you're blundering instead of knowing your words.

[00:10:06]>> basic English? Or is it not the case that you enunciated your words properly, you clown?

[00:10:13]All right. So, do you have any substantive actual discussion >> Yes. So, yes. So, yes. So, no. To get to the substance here, it is the Notice how you've been yapping the whole time. What's the justification?

[00:10:25]You make claims.

[00:10:25]>> Catholicism requires libertarian free will.

[00:10:28]>> That's a claim.

[00:10:29]>> Libertarian free will does not exist.

[00:10:31]Therefore, Catholicism is falsified.

[00:10:33]>> Give me a supplementary argument for premise one.

[00:10:36]>> Catholicism without the ability to choose >> I going to be able to respond? to choose to follow >> Why is this [ __ ] yapping? Therefore, you need it. Can I respond now?

[00:10:45]>> Now, give some substance.

[00:10:47]>> Okay. Zip it. Okay. What's going to be the supplementary argument for premise one? So, what's going to be premise one of premise one?

[00:10:58]I already told you. You're going to require top line >> libertarian free will for concept >> You're not enunciating your words, goofy.

[00:11:07]Could you shut the [ __ ] up? Yeah, I could. It's logically possible.

[00:11:12]>> libertarian free [laughter] will in order to have the ability to choose your actions That's a claim. Prove that.

[00:11:21]I am right now doing that, you [ __ ] >> No, you're making the claim again.

[00:11:25]Kyler, you got to let him get to the Oh my [ __ ] god, dude. Listen. Listen.

[00:11:30]Listen, Linda.

[00:11:31]>> Listen. Use your ears.

[00:11:34]All right? You require libertarian free will for the positions of being able to choose in a moral system because without the ability to choose in a moral system, you are not the one that is ultimately responsible for those actions without being the ultimate originator of the choice being made. Morality would make you the person who is the one who is required to make these decisions.

[00:12:02]Otherwise, it's not a moral system. It's a causal system. And thus, the moral system fails.

[00:12:08]Mhm. You done?

[00:12:09]>> to have the ability to choose >> You're repeating yourself. You're repeating yourself.

[00:12:15]Hold on, Big Joe. Um actually, um okay.

[00:12:19]Are you okay if I give him like a minute to respond?

[00:12:22]>> need it. I don't need it, bro.

[00:12:22]>> No, I'm not cuz all he did was [ __ ] fill Give your closing, please.

[00:12:26]All he did was try to use ad homs and insults >> Give your closing now, sir. Give your closing. ever touching. Ever touching >> Wait. Why is he still talking? What is this? The time's over. All right, guys.

[00:12:37]Yes. We're moving >> me a question, so I answered his question. Yeah, I did ask a question.

[00:12:42]But like, okay. Now, we're moving on to closing statements. You got You got a problem with the question being answered? Too strange. Yo, you're a [ __ ] You don't like straight questions.

[00:12:49]That's fine. But anyway, Matthew, you're going to get 3 minutes to do your closing statement. It starts when you say your first word.

[00:13:01]My first word.

[00:13:02]So, argument rendered was with libertarian free will being required for the the Catholic position that allows for any of the positions such as worship, belief, following morality, or anything else. Even the concept of sin requires these choices being subject to the the agent being the ultimate originator of that choice.

[00:13:20]We would see that this is going to be a requirement. Therefore, when libertarian free will is falsified, so is the Catholic position. Libertarian free will was falsified. Therefore, the Catholic position is falsified and the Catholic God cannot exist as described.

[00:13:33]Simple as that.

[00:13:35]Are you concluding your closing statement there?

[00:13:38]Yep.

[00:13:39]Okay. And with that, that's going to conclude your closing statement. Kyler, you're going to get 3 minutes on the clock. It starts when you receive your first word.

[00:13:48]Okay. Um so, let's just all ask ourselves, when this guy, Matthew Levy, argument, did he give a valid argument? Everyone in the audience, imagine the answers in your head. Yes or no.

[00:14:01]We all will say no. He gave an invalid argument. This [ __ ] told me a modus ponens is if if P, then Q.

[00:14:11]Okay? So, already the argument started off with invalid line of reasoning.

[00:14:16]Okay? Let's flag that. Now, given I am a charitable interlocutor, I said for the sake of productivity, let's conceptualize the argument to be one which is valid. Okay? So, we're moving off his first blunder. I then ask, what's going to be the supplementary argument for premise one?

[00:14:34]The response was, premise one is true in virtue of me recapitulating premise one. So, he literally says, it is the case that the Catholic view requires libertarian free will and is false. I say, what's the justification for that?

[00:14:50]You know, that's just to say that if you're a Catholic and you don't affirm libertarian free will. If you're a Catholic and you take some other notion of free will, there will be a contradiction entailed because Catholicism entails libertarian free will. Wait, but what would be the contradiction, Matthew? He He never gave that to be clear, and that was his burden. But we can show in the closing that Matthew is not licensed to say S and N entailment relation because you can say it's logically possible that you're a Catholic and you don't affirm libertarian free will. He also never showed like any doctrine, any scripture, no empirical type of work regarding Catholicism to give any reasons to believe this. He merely kept making the claim. Is it analytically true that Catholicism entails libertarian free will? Is it synthetically verified?

[00:15:40]Matthew never went over any of these type of things. We all can ask ourselves, did Matthew prove that Catholicism necessarily entails libertarian free will? The answer to that question again will be no. I think in virtue of these minute facts and then me beating him up optically, beat him up substantively, um that's going to be all evidence of me favor show that he hasn't shown Catholicism to be false, and therefore I win this debate. So, that will be my closing statement. Okay. And with that, we're going to cut off Kyler's time. Okay, audience. There's 53 people here. Um You guys >> Now that that's cut off, Why the [ __ ] do you lie so much?

[00:16:22]Hold on. Hold on. Let Coco finish. Guys, I do have to address the audience. Okay.

[00:16:26]That's going to be the conclusion.

[00:16:28]Um wait. We didn't make a mistake. I'm cutting Kyler's time. No, we're good. We can It's over. Um but uh Oh, he concluded. It's fine. I'm just trying to ask him why he needs to lie so much to try to [ __ ] win debates. That was [ __ ] pathetic. Bro, let Coco finish.

[00:16:41]What are you doing? Okay. Okay. So, so with that, guys, um audience members, there's 47 people in here. You get to vote. You get to decide the winner. You get to be a part of like what's happening up here. So, I'm going to set a quick poll. Um it's going to be smiley face for the atheists and crying emoji for the uh believer. So, the poll is starting now.

[00:17:04]And you get to vote. Go ahead.

[00:17:07]Uh vote red for the atheist. Vote crying for the for the Christian or the theist.

[00:17:12]That's how it's always going to be. It's always going to be smiley for the atheist and crying for the Christian.

[00:17:17]Um and yeah. Um you guys get to decide who the winner is.

[00:17:23]Um uh Matthew's going to be the atheist, so he's going to be the red. He's going to be the smiley that you're voting for.

[00:17:28]Kyler's going to be the crying emoji.

[00:17:31]That's going to be the Christian that you're voting for.

[00:17:33]Um Kyler was arguing for the Catholic position.

[00:17:37]But yep. Yep. Yep. And with that, >> Except he never actually like argued for the Catholic position. He just lied through his teeth.

[00:17:43]>> You lost the debate, bro. It's okay. Oh, yeah. I don't care about that. That doesn't bother me one bit. What I'm saying though is why would you lie in order to try to get a W, right?

[00:17:51]>> Wait. We All The audience all heard you say a modus My argument was invalid.

[00:17:55]When you said my argument was invalid, that was a lie, right? It It wasn't invalid, boss.

[00:17:59][clears throat] We all heard it. My argument was perfectly valid. Valid. It just wasn't formalized.

[00:18:04]>> ON THE POLLS, TOO.

[00:18:06]>> [laughter] >> KYLER DIED ARE YOU [ __ ] STUPID, KYLER?

[00:18:10]>> [screaming] >> WHAT WAS INVALID ABOUT MY ARGUMENT? YOU LOST. WHAT WAS INVALID ABOUT MY ARGUMENT? OH, I'm never taking you seriously again.

[00:18:20]Yeah, I don't take you seriously, either, cuz you're incapable of doing anything but possible >> We're done talking here.

[00:18:25]I know you're done talking cuz you know you're an idiot.

[00:18:28]Right? So, let me ask you. What was invalid about my actual argument?

[00:18:35]It's safe to say I know. You You can't You can't say what was invalid about the actual argument, can you?

[00:18:44]That was very interesting. Hey, when you said I did When you said I didn't support the position, you interrupted me in the middle of me like supporting the position and then pretending like I didn't. Hey. It is just another lie. The interim was crazy, Kyler. When I say, this is my proposition and it's valid because, but you you don't listen to the because? Hey, everybody drop Coco a follow, man. He make it, man. We making history today. You You going to You going to just ignore it, Kyler? Oh my god. But also, You just going to ignore every question I'm asking you, Kyler?

[00:19:14]But really quick, uh Kyler, do you The debate's over, man.

[00:19:17]You You don't have to keep lying in order to try to win the >> Coco, speak to me, boss. Just have some decorum. I don't I don't care. I've been talking to you the whole [ __ ] time, too. Coco is spiking. Chill. Take a chill pill. Yeah, you spiked at the very first premise of my argument. That's why you had to start off lying, okay?

[00:19:31]>> the debate's over. Hold on. The debate's over. Let's move on. You lost. It's okay. No, I'm criticizing you right now.

[00:19:37]I'm not debating you right now. I'm criticizing you. I can't take criticism from somebody like you, buddy.

[00:19:42]You got to be on my level. You got >> Do you understand that you had to lie in order to try to like >> what were you saying?

[00:19:48]Okay, guys. Guys, we You need decorum.

[00:19:50]>> No, Coco. We don't. don't because you don't have another person waiting anyway.

[00:19:56]So, are you going to Are you going to keep lying? Okay, guys. I am going I want to know why he's lying, right?

[00:20:03]Why you people just let him [ __ ] lie and let him get away with it. Hold on.

[00:20:06]Hold on, Matthew.

[00:20:08]Okay, hold on. Hold on, Chief. I need to um address this situation. We're either going to continue like doing this like shouting match or like fighting each other or we do have to like move on. No, I want you to ask him. Ask him what was invalid about my argument. Okay, uh OG Kylo, do you >> answer me. Uh OG Kylo, do you want to Do you want to answer that? I'd rather not engage with this maniac cuz he's mad right now.

[00:20:28]>> Because you don't have anything about my argument.

[00:20:31]>> See, he won't let me speak. Coco, that's what I'm saying. He will not let me speak. All right. I'm trying to respond.

[00:20:36]All right, guys. So, you do have to let him answer me in >> with it? Matthew, you do have to let him answer me in full.

[00:20:41]>> Thank you, Matthew.

[00:20:43]He wasn't answering you. He was running away.

[00:20:45]>> Sir, sir, conduct yourself. So, what was invalid about the argument? Please, Coco. Kylo, what do you got Yeah. So, given his behavior, I'm no longer after I've just won, I'm no longer looking to engage with this guy cuz he's unproductive.

[00:20:58]>> Because you're protecting yourself.

[00:21:00]Okay. So, then just say what's invalid about the argument.

[00:21:04]>> to You have to conduct yourself. I I did set the boundary. I want to listen to everything Kylo has to say. I appreciate that moderation, boss. You got to slide to you. Sir, sir, you have I want I want to hear all of it. I want to hear all of it. Sorry.

[00:21:18]Matthew. Keep it in order. Look, can he actually answer? Okay, Coco, yeah. I'm good. Yeah.

[00:21:25]>> [laughter] >> I'm good, bro. I feel threatened. I feel like you might have to move on.

[00:21:29]I don't want to move on. Let him get it out, but um Okay.

[00:21:32]>> Don't Don't insult the other party, preferably, >> while you're getting out your answer.

[00:21:36]>> I got you. I'm not trying to rage-bait.

[00:21:38]I'm just expressing the reasons I don't want to discuss with this guy. Just given the way he's been acting is not fruitful, right? I like to talk with people that are good sports and accept their losses. But other than that, I'm no longer looking to talk to this guy.

[00:21:50]Okay, with that we are going to move on.

[00:21:52]>> answer the question, Coco. You just let him [ __ ] run away from it. Okay, well, I You just let him ignore it. He just [ __ ] ran away from it again.

[00:22:00]You're going to let him sit here and lie. I know. He's choosing >> going to hold him accountable at all for what he did. He's choosing not to answer >> anything about it at all. I'm not asking him to engage with me. I'm asking him to engage with you.

[00:22:12]>> Look, look, it seems to be the case that he doesn't want to answer the What was invalid about my argument? Cuz that was his entire thing. He just said my argument was invalid.

[00:22:22]What was invalid about my argument?

[00:22:24]Matthew, he doesn't consent to the question. Yeah.

[00:22:26]>> But why is he [ __ ] here?

[00:22:28]Okay, so to clarify, I'm just going to drop everybody from the panel because um I've been plenty patient and I'm just getting talked over and that's kind of [ __ ] But um OG Kylo is choosing not to engage with the question and I understand that can be frustrating, Matthew, but like what can I do? Uh I'm not going to I'm not Like you want me to go over to his house and put a a gun to his head? Um he's he's not engaging with the question. And that might be cowardly, that might not be cowardly. It depends on whose perspective in this live we're asking. Um but I'm going to stay Switzerland on this one. So, we do have to move on with the show. Um is there any like atheist or Christians want to come up and do a quick debate? I do have a couple of topics I have already set up. I have the Christian God exists, the Christian God does not exist, the biblical gospels are not historically reliable, um the Christian God does not interact with his creation, and I'm setting up some other backgrounds and topics that people would like to debate. Um right now, you can debate literally anything. Just tell me and I will make the background and put it up for you. So, any atheist, any Christian, request and we can get the debate started. It's just going to be short debates.

[00:23:39]Um but yeah, like the beef between Matthew and OG Kylo, that's between you two. Kylo, you didn't answer his question, to be honest. Um and he doesn't want to and Matthew, I know you can be frustrated about that. I get I get frustrated about people not answering my questions.

[00:23:56]But that's between you two. I don't have any beefs with any of you guys.

[00:24:00]Um I don't really know what side to take here.

[00:24:03]But Kylo, preferably, you should probably answer people's questions when they're asking you what's invalid about their argument. I don't think it's really fair to win the debate and like I don't think it's good faith to not answer his question, but that's just me.

[00:24:18]But um yeah, uh I'll bring everybody back up.

[00:24:21]I'll bring everybody back up.

[00:24:23]No, man.

[00:24:25]I'm just going to say this to you real quick.

[00:24:27]Don't respect you at all for the [ __ ] you've been doing recently. I've just been trying >> You No, no, I'm just going to speak. If you want to kick me, that's fine.

[00:24:34]But I don't respect the [ __ ] you've been doing recently. You You claim to be Switzerland. It's not Switzerland.

[00:24:38]You're not being You're not being neutral.

[00:24:41]You are quite literally just allowing people to [ __ ] walk all over whoever. And when they're called out on it, all they got to do is say, "Nope, I don't want to answer." And you're fine cuz you don't want to You don't want to push anybody. You don't want to hold anybody accountable for the [ __ ] you do.

[00:24:55]Right? Do you want to Do you want to put a gun to his head? Is Is that what you want me to No. I want you to hold him accountable for the [ __ ] he did cuz you saw it. You watched it happen. You will see it happening. Call him for it. Kick him out. Do whatever.

[00:25:05]You can kick me out, too. I don't give two shits, right?

[00:25:08]I mean, okay.

[00:25:09]>> sit here and say you're being neutral when you're not. I'm going to Right?

[00:25:12]Don't Don't lie to people. I don't want him to lie to people. I'm calling Yeah, you said you're neutral when you're not neutral. What are you talking about? I'm not You are taking his side.

[00:25:21]>> I'm not taking his side.

[00:25:22]>> literally are taking his side. I'm not saying what he's doing is You know for a fact that he lied.

[00:25:29]And he was called on that lie.

[00:25:31]And you just let him sit with it and let him get away with it. That's fine.

[00:25:34]That's what you want to do. That's fine.

[00:25:35]I don't respect you for it.

[00:25:37]Right? There was nothing invalid about my argument. All he did was use randomized insults and randomized [ __ ] [ __ ] to talk over people and and to take up the time.

[00:25:49]And he never once addressed any question I asked him. Yo, Matthew, you got >> about my responses when he said that I didn't give a response that actually defended my position when I did.

[00:25:59]All he did was say, "Hey, what's your position?" When I started answering his question, he interrupts me halfway and asked me the same question over again.

[00:26:05]So, I keep doing it. When I finally get it out and I say, "This is my position because" and give the actual supporting evidence for it, then he ends up saying, "Oh, he never gave any supporting evidence" when ignoring that it actually occurred.

[00:26:17]So, yeah. I understand some people don't like how aggressive I can get.

[00:26:21]But I don't like when people are [ __ ] dishonest. And I was never [ __ ] dishonest in any of that in any of the engagement. Everything I said was [ __ ] spot-on and honest.

[00:26:30]My argument was valid. My argument was there.

[00:26:34]He lied. The host is a neutral The host is a neutral party, so he's not trying to him. The host is not neutral. Wait, what?

[00:26:41]>> Every single person is biased. Every single person has a position. Nobody is neutral. Well, hold on. Like everybody is biased, but my >> And I do not respect Wait, hold on. Hold on.

[00:26:52]>> you taking the dishonest side and just letting him get away with the [ __ ] Okay, um I'm going to speak now, right?

[00:26:58]So, everybody does have a bias, but like my job here is simply to facilitate the debate and like of course I do have to review the debate and see whether like what Kylo said was truthful or like um not truthful. Maybe I'll even make a video about it. But like that's a beef between you two. You guys are the ones engaging in debate. I'm just here facilitating. I'm giving my beef with you right now, man. Wow. You're going after Coco, right? And again, like I'm not taking his side. I'm not saying like, "Oh, OG Kylo is >> I'm saying you are. How so? Your inability to even address what occurred is taking that side. You just let him get away I'm not addressing it because I'm stepping out of it. It's between you two. And also, I was making like background noise. No, that's not taking a side.

[00:27:44]Yeah, why? He's the host. He's the unbiased host.

[00:27:49]He is not unbiased.

[00:27:51]Uh >> There is no such thing as an unbiased So, you're going to end your friendship with Coco cuz you got cooked by me.

[00:27:57]No, I'm going to say I don't respect the [ __ ] things that he did. Cuz I cooked him. If he doesn't want to take that, that's on him. You mad at Coco cuz I You mad at Coco cuz I cooked you.

[00:28:06]No, I'm pissed at you for lying. No, bro. Why is he mad at you?

[00:28:09]>> you for using insults instead of argumentation.

[00:28:13]Yo, Kylo, why is he >> at you for the dishonesty you showed.

[00:28:17]I think you're a [ __ ] debater and are incapable of using anything but rhetoric.

[00:28:21]Oh, shoot. Oh, do you want to go? All right. But anyway, um I don't care if the audience votes that you won. Why Why is he mad at you?

[00:28:30]>> Congratulations. You won based on lies and rhetoric. Coco, you ever watch Dragon Ball?

[00:28:35]>> Hope you feel good about that. Hope that makes you feel smart. I like I said before, Dragon Ball. Where is this [ __ ] vegan dude? You could use it anytime you want.

[00:28:44]But anyway, I got >> you You ever watch Dragon Ball before?

[00:28:47]Yes, I have watched Dragon Ball. Why is he mad at Vegeta? Why is he mad at Vegeta, bro? I see you're attacking the crowd. It's all right. We We can I'm not attacking the crowds. I'm talking to you directly. Yeah, yeah. We You're attacking everybody but the opponent, bro. We can move on.

[00:29:01]>> I was talking to Kylo. And I was talking to Coco. Last time I'm going to say it.

[00:29:06]We can move on, guys. All right. My bad.

[00:29:09]My bad. So, now we're going to We're going to start a new >> I'll I'll chuck this and move on, but no, [ __ ] man. You The [ __ ] you did today and [ __ ] yesterday for that matter.

[00:29:20]All right. All right.

[00:29:20]>> That's up to you, man. If you If you want to fix your behavior, that's up to you. Okay, yeah.

[00:29:25]>> But that's [ __ ] and you know it. So, Oh, you're okay. We heard you, Matthew.

[00:29:29]All right. All right. So, next debate.

[00:29:32]Um Do we have next Debate, yeah. Yeah, [ __ ] off. Do we Do we have any [ __ ] off.

[00:29:37]We We heard you, Matthew. Fifth time.

[00:29:39]We heard you. Okay. I mean, like I'm trying to move on. Like you You have a beef with OG Kylo, that's between like you and OG Kylo. Like um I'm not really taking a stance on this. I just have to review the footage.

[00:29:52]Um but next debate >> bro.

[00:29:54]Um do you have any atheists in the audience who want to come up and debate? Do you have any Christians in the audience who want to come up and debate? Um Um I'm hosting short debates between Christians and atheists. And I'm mentioning some background.

[00:30:07]I just want to put this out there, you know, if then can refer to a connective material implications. So, it's not just if then when you're cashing out on one spot. It's just want to put that out there.

[00:30:18]But um Just in case they didn't know that, yeah, I'd let them know.

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