Car Dealers Are DONE! The FTC Just Did the UNTHINKABLE

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[00:00:53]Dad, the big story this morning, >> Yeah. the Federal Trade Commission. Now, it was a couple of months ago, back in March, Dad, that the FTC, they sent out letters to 97 dealership groups and quietly on Friday, May 29th, last week, they made an announcement that is really kind of unthinkable. They named names.

[00:01:13]So, before we get into before we get into the names that have been named, can you please set the stage here? What happened on Friday and what happened back on March 11th when the FTC sent letters to 97 dealer groups? But again, please folks, stay tuned. They named the names finally.

[00:01:28]>> Yes. Back in March, the FTC sent warning letters to uh 97 dealerships or dealership groups. Um but they did not release the names of who they sent the letters to. And the letters suggested that some of these dealers, if not perhaps all of these dealers, might have might have violated one or or some or all of the regulations that the FTC found near and dear to their heart, which was advertising a price that does not reflect all the required fees.

[00:02:02]Advertising a price that reflects rebates or discounts not available to all customers. Advertising a price that fails to take into account the amount of an additional required down payment. Uh conditioning the advertised price on consumers using dealer financing.

[00:02:22]Requiring consumers to buy additional items not reflected in the advertised price and advertising unavailable or non-existent vehicles. So, the suggestion was that the dealers that they sent this to uh violated one or some of those uh items, but we didn't know who. And and like most things the government does that they don't really want you to pay that much attention to, they wait for a late Friday afternoon news dump when everybody's on their way to uh the beach or somewhere and so that people won't really pay attention to it.

[00:03:00]And I know uh Friday afternoon, Zach, you were made aware of of who the letters went to.

[00:03:07]>> We had we had a we had a um a music concert to go to, an early one at 5:00 p.m. And I'm ready to sign off for the day. And around 400 pm in the afternoon, I find this. Thank goodness I did. And Dad, I want to be clear here again.

[00:03:20]We're going to name the names in just a second here, but it is not easy to find the 97 dealer groups that are named. You have to be looking in the legal library, then browse, then go to warning lab warning letters, and then click on the FTC warns 97 auto dealership groups about deceptive pricing. And again, these letters were sent on March 11th.

[00:03:39]Now, here's the kicker, Dad, because it was 400 p.m. I was ready to sign off, ready to go to this concert with you. I had to go home and change and get dressed. But you know what? I couldn't because what I found is when I started to click into these letters, I'm going to click into this one right here. Noler Auto Group layered Ner Automotive Inc.

[00:03:56]This is where things got really interesting. You'd think, Dad, Noler Auto Group, layered Noler Automotive, Inc., this is the group. This is the dealership that was named. When you scroll down to the bottom of all of these letters, you actually see the individual dealerships that are being named by the FTC. Talk about not making it easily accessible.

[00:04:18]So, I went crazy on Friday. I was going nuts because I was like, "Holy cow, I need to compile the list of any guesses here. Guesses from our community. How many total dealerships are named across these 97 letters that the FTC sent out back on March 11th? Let me know. Let me know the guesses. I know you know the number possible. Let's get some guesses from the >> I'm not going to say.

[00:04:40]>> Let's get some guesses because it's more than 97." I mean, that was just one example there where you could see that was one dealer group, but it was what four dealerships that were named. Three dealerships. three dealerships that were named.

[00:04:51]>> And let's also get some guesses as to what dealer groups um >> some people cheated on their homework.

[00:04:59]300 55 1,00 146 400 420 289 Dad, it was 200 >> three dealerships, individual dealerships that were named. We have caredge.comFTTC.

[00:05:14]Everyone tuning in to today's show, I encourage you to go to this URL. It's where a lot of the data that we're going to review today is. But Dad, you were about to say something about uh public dealer groups. I'm all ears.

[00:05:23]>> Yes, there were. I was going to ask I I would also like you to guess what dealer group uh publicly traded large dealer groups were uh sent letters and which ones weren't. Um and not that that necessarily means some are better than Yeah, it does. It does mean some are better than others or or at least um at that stage the FTC hadn't seen activity at some of these dealer groups that they they thought they should send off a letter.

[00:05:53]>> Yeah. Guess which there are four publicly traded car dealership groups that were not sent letters. But I contend that it doesn't actually mean they're better because when we started to crunch the numbers and compare the car edge transparency index data to the dealers that have received letters, a lot of dealers got agrades because they actually are transparent. They got wrapped up in the FTC's work more broadly with the group. And then many dealerships need to get letters from the FTC that have many. Yeah. Many more like hundreds more if not thousands more. So I hate to say this, but I don't think Man Oh, man. I live in Washington DC.

[00:06:25]The FTC building's close by. I hope someday to meet with the folks there and engage with them. But I don't like the way that they did this. I don't know how they came up with the 97. They didn't disclose their methodology for the 97 groups. And the 97 wasn't 97. All those headlines you saw, including the ones coming from us. All those headlines you saw of 97 dealerships got warning letters, warning letters, excuse me, from the FTC was incorrect. It was 203 dealerships and it should be many, many more. They need to disclose their methodology here, Dad, because again, there's some trends that we're going to break down in a second here, but it's so many more. In caredge.comftc, just to pull it up on the screen here, we built a map and a search. Okay, so here's the map. So you can see all the dealers that are graded on the map and a search. So you can see every single name on this list, their car edge grade as well, obviously, but every single dealership that received a letter is right here. And to be clear here, we link directly back to that letter as well. So you can see again, they don't make this easy. This one was Lithia, obviously. They don't make this easy.

[00:07:24]Lithia had one, two, three, four, five, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 dealerships that got caught up in this.

[00:07:33]dad, but I bet you there's some different Lithia dealerships that probably need to receive a letter as well.

[00:07:39]>> Uh, one would think, uh, let's face it, there's, you know, we we've done what we've done with our AI agents, shopping dealers, and our concurge agents, shopping dealers, and we've been able to put together uh data that others have not. Yeah. and and we've rated what about 10,000 dealers and legitimately there's I don't know 60 70 80,000 dealers both um independent and franchise new franchised automobile dealerships. So, uh, you know, ours represents a small percentage, but it is a much larger percentage than what the FTC has indicated at this point. And I I think through ours, what's the percentage of dealers that are DNF?

[00:08:27]>> Let's pull it up on the screen. Give me one second here, Pops. I'll share it with everyone live. car edge.com and then from car edge.com dealer reviews rating overview. Drum roll, please.

[00:08:39]We've got over 10,000 dealerships. Only 277 F dealers, 442 D dealers out of 10,000. So, we're talking less than 10%, Dad, receive an F or a D grade.

[00:08:51]>> So, that would indicate if there's le let's let's be conservative and say there's 60,000 dealerships in this country, independent and new car franchise dealerships. And we know of the new car franchise dealerships, there's about 18,000. So that means there's 42,000 independent dealerships.

[00:09:13]>> Yep.

[00:09:13]>> But if it is about 10% of of what we've been able to score so far, then I'm not real good at math, but but 10% of 60,000 would be 6,000.

[00:09:29]And so far there's been 203 letters sent. So, uh, that would just indicate that we're 9,8 or yeah, 797 letters short so far and and that number could grow because you you might want to include C dealerships in there as well.

[00:09:55]So, it is >> and yeah, >> it's a lot of work for the FTC is what I was trying to say. It's a ton of work for the FTC. It's also, I want to be clear here, about time we got the names.

[00:10:06]Thank goodness we finally got the names.

[00:10:08]That took what almost two two and a half months. But here's where again the methodology piece is currently missing.

[00:10:14]And this is we're consumer advocates here at Carage. We're advocates for dealers who are transparent. If I'm a dealer that is transparent, I'm pissed off that I don't understand the methodology. And here's the reason being, Dad. Yes.

[00:10:23]>> I go to car edge.com right now. I go to dealer reviews and I search Lithia. I can find Nissan of Lithia Springs, which again >> coming back over to the dealership list from the FTC to Lithia Motors.

[00:10:35]>> Yes.

[00:10:36]>> Do you see on this list at Nissan of Lithia Springs?

[00:10:39]>> No, I see Nissan of Clovis and Nissan of Eugene, >> which maybe maybe Lithia Springs is is wrong because it's Lithia Springs. So, let's go back. Actually, let's let's let's go back. Let's see. Lithia Toyota of Billings. That one sounds to me like no matter what, that's a Lithia dealership, right?

[00:10:56]>> Yeah. Yeah, it is. Well, you know what?

[00:10:58]The other one was as well.

[00:11:00]>> Yeah. Well, even if it wasn't. Here we go.

[00:11:03]>> This is actually a good moment. Lithia Toyota of Billings. It's on the list.

[00:11:08]What data do we have back at car edge.com?

[00:11:11]>> Drum roll, please.

[00:11:14]Wait for it. Wait for it. Wait for it.

[00:11:16]It's a little hard to see here, y'all, because it's twisted, but you can see add-ons out the wazoo right there.

[00:11:23]Again, I know it's sideways, so it's a little hard to see. So, that's good.

[00:11:25]That's validating, but I bet you there are more, for example, that other Nissan dealer that gets a low grade because they advertise one price online and then they do a different price and contact the dealership. There's more work here than just these 203 dealerships. And I want to pull up I see I appreciate you were saying 97 dealer groups, 203 rooftops. I I hate to say it, but it felt a little maybe misleading to say 97 dealer groups. All of the reporting on this was 97 dealer groups, but then everyone interpreted that as dealerships. So maybe maybe that's on us, on us at Car Edge, on automotive news, on every single media company who said 97 dealerships got warning letters.

[00:12:03]203 did and it's buried at the bottom of those PDFs.

[00:12:07]>> Yeah. Well, the problem was, you know, that the FTC's headline was that they contacted 97 dealer groups. They didn't say how many dealerships within those dealer groups that they sent letters to.

[00:12:20]But regardless of that, that that's unimportant.

[00:12:24]The the sad reality is >> that out of 60,000 dealerships, 203 got letters. There are so many more letters that need to be sent. There is so much more that needs to be reviewed. And and here's an even sadder reality.

[00:12:44]>> Uh we've got the receipts.

[00:12:48]Okay? We we if the FTC would contact us could make their lives a lot easier, okay? Because we have the independent receipts. We have the verified copies of out the-do quotes of completed quotes that the dealership sent to us. We're we're not guessing. We, you know, they sent us the information. we can validate the information so that you know the FTC doesn't do this as their uh only job but we do this is this this this is in I hate to say this this is in our wheelhouse not necessarily the FTC's wheelhouse but it's in our wheelhouse and and sometimes maybe federal agencies need to look outside their windows and go who can we utilize to help make our our life easier so that we can make life better for customers out there, for consumers out there.

[00:13:51]>> So, now that we do have the names, Dad, so again, that's the big story. We now have the names. You can see the names.

[00:13:55]I'll pull back up on the screen. car edge.comfttc, you can now see all the names right back there of all the dealers who were named.

[00:14:03]And there's 97 letters. It was 203 dealerships in total that were named.

[00:14:07]But here's what I want to ask you, Pops.

[00:14:08]Yes. What I want to ask you is where were there some interesting clusters both in terms of brand and state? Now I know you already read this so I'll ask the community first. Where do you think what types of dealerships was it? A particular brand that received more warning letters from the FTC or were there particular states that were outliers that received more letters than others? I know you've already looked, so put some guesses in the chat here. I'm going to just say this. There's some uh uh intuition that goes into this and you should trust that intuition. There are certain places in the country and types of dealerships that have a bad rap unfortunately.

[00:14:43]>> You know, data >> and and part of it could be uh population based.

[00:14:48]>> Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I think that's a great point. We've got Nissan in Florida. We've got New York and Toyota, California, Florida, Florida, Texas and Honda, Toyota, Nissan, too.

[00:15:01]Lots of good guesses from our community.

[00:15:04]All right, Dad. You ready to take a peek?

[00:15:06]>> Yes. Let's start with brands of vehicles sold first. Oh man, I did a There we go.

[00:15:11]Get that off the screen. Okay, you can still tell who it is over to the right.

[00:15:14]But dad, independent, yes, used car dealerships. Those were number one in terms of the number of groups or the types of groups that received letters from the FTC. Now, notably, no Carvana, no CarMax. So, Carvana and CarMax did not receive letters from the FTC. Of note, the other publics that didn't were Penske Automotive Group and Asbury Automotive Group. None of their dealerships got caught up in this. And I'm going to say it yet, but independent used car dealerships, 25 of them were in this. Chevrolet, dad, 22 Chevrolet dealerships, then Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Ram, then Nissan, then Hyundai, then Ford, then Kia, then Honda, >> then Toyota, and then Buick all the way down there at the bottom. And we talk about geographic location. I don't think anyone's going to be too surprised to see Texas and Florida up at the tippy top here. Not surprised to see Florida.

[00:16:04]California makes sense from a population standpoint.

[00:16:06]>> Illinois up there with 14, but yeah, really your big three, Texas, Florida, California are the states where there's the most uh FTC's letters sent. You know, interesting to New York all the way down there at eight. You'd think that New York dealers would have more letters coming their way. So again, now that we actually have the names of these dealerships, which again, to be clear here, I downloaded every single PDF and went through and pulled out every single name. They did not make it easy.

[00:16:31]>> Let me ask you a question.

[00:16:33]>> Sure. Um, we know that in Florida, for instance, it is the wild wild west when it comes to dock fees.

[00:16:41]>> Of course, >> that the average dock fee in Florida is $999.

[00:16:46]Yep.

[00:16:46]>> Um, and we have seen higher than that.

[00:16:50]Um, how many dealers in Florida on our dealership transparency index score well but have egraciously high dock fees? Or if their dock fee is significantly above the state average, which is $9.99, will would that lower their dealer transparency index score? Yeah, actually if you have a dock fee above the average in your state, your score is lower on the on the car edge grade. We actually have it's not something we talk about all that often, but we actually have reports. It's cared.comreports and then put the state in. So this is this is Florida. I'll drop this >> in the chat if anyone is interested.

[00:17:35]These reports actually show you the underlying data. So we've analyzed over 4,800 quotes just in Florida. The average dock fee debt is actually $968 is what we see. 53% of dealers do not put add-ons on vehicles. And when there are add-ons present, it's $1,2.

[00:17:52]Here's the breakdown of the grade distribution, which is more DNF and C dealers in the overall national population. And if I scroll all the way down here, we've got the lowest rated dealers. Where was it? Where was it? Oh, Florida fee comparison as well. So, I can even see a breakdown of fees specifically in the state of Florida.

[00:18:10]The highest dock fee we've seen is $1,299.

[00:18:14]Um, yeah, you can see all sorts. Here's the distribution of dock fees in the state. If I scroll down here a little bit further, a lot a bit further. Give me a second here. Drum roll, please.

[00:18:24]>> And and the reason I asked, Zach, is is we know um you know that that Florida many dealers can can score well on the transparency index. Um even though their average DOC fee is $968.

[00:18:41]>> Yeah. Because it's comparable to their Yeah. competition.

[00:18:43]>> Yes. Which which you know when you compare it to some other states is is significantly higher. So just I I guess the point I'm trying to make is just because a dealer might grade really well in Florida, um oftentimes you're still going to be overpaying significantly because of the dock fee. And and let's face it, uh the FTC isn't playing in that sandbox either. All the FTC is suggesting is that you you list the selling price and then as we saw with the with Genesis of Annapolis, you then as a separate line item, list what your processing or dock fee is. And if you do that, then you're in compliance. So just because somebody scores really well transparencywise doesn't necessarily mean that some of the cost of their fees isn't uh a tad bit outrageous.

[00:19:43]>> Oh, of course. Yeah. Fairness and transparency unfortunately do not go hand in hand right now. What you just referred to with Genesis of Annapolis is we did a mystery shop and you can see here this was a dealer's online advertisement for a vehicle as compared to the actual out the door price that they sent us when we shopped them.

[00:19:58]They're identical. And that's exactly what the FTC wants to see here. And many of you have probably already seen on various car search websites and dealer websites, they're now listing out fees much more transparently. The next the next iteration of this is like who's fair? Like who who actually is still offering a fair price. So trust me, we're getting ahead of that over at car edge.com as well. But a tremendous moment this morning. And I think I hope you know when the FTC made this announcement, did their press release about the 97 dealer groups who received these letters, there was a lot of interest around a lot. You and I were doing interviews left and right for different national media publications, for local news, etc. I hope we can get as many eyeballs, if not more, now that the 203 names have actually come out because again, it's not 97, it's 203, and more and more awareness needs to be brought to this work. And and the FTC quite frankly needs help. There was a period of time, Dad, they were asking dealers in in a webinar that they did to rat out other dealers who were doing pricing.

[00:20:55]>> That's an interesting tactic. So FTC, if that's the route you're going, you're more than welcome to pick up the phone and call me directly as well. Or you can reply back to all the LinkedIn messages I've sent folks at the FTC. We'd be thrilled to help you here. We think this is the absolute best thing that can happen for the auto industry is make it more transparent, make it more efficient, make it more fair.

[00:21:16]>> Well, and the good dealers agree with that. The good dealers would want to see this happen. Um, and and you know, quite honestly, we we can we can provide the FTC with with much more data than they have available to them and much more upto-date data that that and data gets added on a daily basis because guess what? we're working deals on a daily basis and and so at a certain point and I know governmental agencies don't necessarily like to want to reach out to uh non-governmental entities for some of their information but this is this is real live verified documented uh receiptbased information that the that the FTC if they wanted to use it for evidence you evident per evidence purposes.

[00:22:15]It would it's perfect for them that it it's it's it's almost foolish that they haven't contacted us yet.

[00:22:22]>> Yeah. Well, you know how I feel about these things. Anyway, cared.comc.

[00:22:27]Go there. You can obviously see the full list of dealers. You can also click through. I want to be very clear here.

[00:22:32]We made this as essentially a repository so that you can click all the way through and go and see the original letter that was sent to a dealer. Just scroll all the way down. We have the map feature here, which is great. So, I want to come into Arizona real quick. Okay, I want to see the letter for this particular dealership. This was Birkshshire Hathway Automotive and Birkshshire Hathway. They had four dealerships in their I think they have 150 dealerships. 150 dealership group.

[00:22:56]Four of them got named Air Park Dodge, Chrysler, Jeep, Showcase Honda, Capital Chevrolet of Austin, and Vandergri Honda. Again, if I'm the FTC, I'm thinking maybe there are a handful more.

[00:23:07]We'd love to help you out, Dad.

[00:23:09]Oh, I I can assure you at least in the Arizona area when it comes to Birkshshire Hathaway. I'm not suggesting it's Birkshshire Hathaway that was the problem. It was who they bought those dealerships from that might have been the problem.

[00:23:25]>> They acquired Van Tile organization which Dad you worked in it. You worked in the Phoenix market what 20 years ago?

[00:23:31]>> I think a little longer. Well, yeah.

[00:23:33]Till 2008. Yeah. And it was that was a group that you competed directly with and they didn't necessarily in your opinion uh compete fairly.

[00:23:43]>> Uh yeah, they they they had some business practices that that were suspect at best. um you know so that um and and even though uh Birkshshire Hathaway has has a different history than say um that those dealerships had prior to Birkshshire Hathaway taking it over. I would imagine that there is still some carryover as far as personnel is concerned and what we're seeing is that uh for instance some of the letters went to I think three Holman dealerships and and the Homeman organization has one of the better reputations in in the automotive industry and and I know I was surprised when I saw that there were letters sent to three Homeman stores. So what it indicates to me is sometimes sometimes that that the the head of the organization might not have their finger on the pulse of every manager uh or general manager in every one of their locations and and so that every general manager might not be playing by the corporate rules that have been set up.

[00:24:57]And I think that might be the same situation that Birkshshire Hathaway is finding out, especially in it if there, trust me, there are many more stores in the Phoenix area that uh that would would probably fail uh the dealer transparency index, at least from our perspective. And again, the big news today was March 11th. These letters went out to 97 dealer groups on May 29th in the afternoon. That's when I found it back on the FTC's website. Very difficult to get to. And then again, the actual names of dealers in the letters, CCD at the bottom of the second page, meticulously went through every single one and pulled out all 203 as part of your car search process. And please, we need to bring awareness to this. know if this was a dealership that received a letter from the Federal Trade Commission. Now again, to be clear, yes, >> many of the dealers that receive letters from the Federal Trade Commission get good grades from Car Edge, an A grade, meaning they've cleaned up their practices or maybe they got caught up in this altogether. It doesn't necessarily mean the letter was an indictment as much as it was a warning. And so this is an incredibly important part of the car car buying process and research. And we put it all in one place, caredge.comfttc from Lego Joe. Thank you for this, Lego, Joe. We appreciate it. FTC sends uh we can see you letters to 97 dealership groups. Reminds me reminds, excuse me, 203 dealerships that quote fine print is not a personality. And they suddenly and shockingly discover the meaning of advertise price. Yeah, Lego Joe, there's quite a story here. Again, I'm I don't I don't like to point fingers, but I just I don't love how this was handled. Like, share the methodology. Share that it's 203 dealerships, not 97 dealership groups. make that data more accessible to consumers and to dealers. So anyway, I'm I'm obviously fired up about this.

[00:26:50]>> Well, you know, if if if the information is made available to consumers and consumers can can then compare it to what we've been able to find. that can drive consumer behavior because the sad reality is that if a consumer has a choice between an F-graded dealer and a A or a B-graded dealer, I I would think that the vast majority of potential consumers would would want to do business with the A and B graded dealers. And so by not making the the information available readily available to the buying public, they were doing a disservice to to customers out there. Um and and we are trying to shed light via both the dealership transparency index and and who these letters went to. We're trying to shed light on that so that consumers can make a a better informed decision as to where it is they might want to do business.

[00:28:01]>> And if I may, the FTC's mission is to vigorously enforce the law to protect Americans from anti-competitive, unfair, and deceptive business practices without unduly burdening legitimate business activity. FTC, this is a uh a public announcement. If you want to license the map that I created over the weekend, you know, you're more than welcome to contact me. You can license this thing because last time I checked, your mission and our mission are identical.

[00:28:28]And we're the ones out here trying to make this information materially significantly more accessible than going through your website, downloading every single PDF, scrolling to the bottom, and finding the names of the dealers that were listed here. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a guy sitting in my office who talks to his dad for 30 minutes every day on YouTube. But we're doing our best here to make this information accessible, available, and in the hands of consumers and the industry so that everyone can have a level playing field to operate on. I'm fired up today, Dad.

[00:29:02]>> Well, >> you saw me on Friday. I was going crazy.

[00:29:04]I was going crazy. We were going to have such a nice night and I was like >> I was I was going nuts, man. I didn't I didn't change. I didn't go home. I was I couldn't get off my computer working to pull out all the names. It was ridiculous to me.

[00:29:16]>> Yes. And I know somebody who wasn't thrilled that >> Yeah. My girlfriend was not thrilled at all. She was like, "What the heck is going on?" But you know what? I got so wired up about this because we've been waiting months. We we thought we would never know the dealerships that received the letters from the FTC.

[00:29:32]>> Yes. And and now we do. And but you know there's so much more information available to the FTC for them to use to uh to send out many many many thousands of more letters. Um and you know for the industry to change it can't just be send out those letters on March 11th to 203 dealers. It can't just be us at Car Edge trying to put together a a dealership transparency index and and hopefully at some point in time uh be able to combine that with a fairness index because just because a dealership's transparent doesn't necessarily mean they're fair in their pricing um or or in how they actually complete a transaction. So there's much much more work to be done, but there are better tools available today than there have ever been. And uh my hope is that in my lifetime we will see those changes. Um, and and I think I'd like to believe that one of the reasons we'll see those changes is because of the efforts of Car Edge and primarily the efforts of one Zack Schevka and his and his uh very uh busy team.

[00:30:54]>> Yeah. And our community, Dad. Our community mans this stuff. So anyway, that's today's show, folks. Thanks so much for tuning in. The FTC did the unthinkable. We didn't see this coming.

[00:31:03]It's been months since they announced those 97 letters being sent out. And so again, as a resource, if we can support you, caredge.comc.

[00:31:12]That's where we've compiled everything for the FTC related efforts. Now, again, to my dad's point, these are letters.

[00:31:18]They're not enforcement. So, we'll see what comes on the heels of this. If you enjoyed today's show, please, as always, subscribe to the channel. Share it with a friend and dad. Please, please, I am begging you right now, just put on a little bit of sunscreen. Just a little bit, okay? Just like that much. That's all I'm asking for. That much sunscreen.

[00:31:36]>> Okay. I I'll I'll share with you. I I will put a little bit of sun sunscreen on my left buttock. Okay. And and I will continue to wear shorts when I'm outside. Um >> yeah, you I you know I listen I like a little >> Only Ray Shepska can go from asking the federal government to reach out to us for support to saying he'll put sunscreen on his left butt cheek. So there you go folks. That's the duality.

[00:32:00]>> You know, I like a little color. I've been pale my entire life. Okay. I like a little color. I You know what? I'm 75 years old. How much more time do I really have left? WHY? WHEN I GO, I want to be I wanna >> All right, folks. That's a show from Car Edge. We'll be back tomorrow with more Car Edge Live.

[00:32:22]I got you. See you, Pops.