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I honestly I think it's bizarre to like like no offense to anyone who's gonna if if you if you keep your grandmother's ashes in your house, cool. But it's bizarre to me to keep the ashes of a dead person in your house. Like like when my grandmother died and we cremated her like we didn't do it. We didn't like set we didn't make a fire in the backyard. We got her pretty metal, >> right? We buried those at her, you know, gravestone or whatever that she had picked out years in advance. But like keeping them in your house just seems weird, right? I anticipate like >> so like so many other positions >> at first it's like yes you know this is my mother-in-law and you know it's a thing and and like it's highly valued and and it goes in like a prime spot that you look by and you remember her and then like 15 years later it's like oh well I huh I guess we're just keeping these forever like at some point somebody will throw them away right that's A THING LIKE NO >> DUDE DEAD WILL be dead is my is her grandkid going to keep them on her shells. Great great grandkid.
>> Throw them away. Like you're just going to like >> I guess you could like scatter them or something.
>> Yeah, you scatter them.
>> I don't know. I haven't thought this through.
>> Do you want Granny living in the >> landfield?
>> Well, that's kind of poetic, right?
Because then, you know, the landfill gets covered up over time and then they're probably going to make a park over it. And Granny is helping. Yeah.
>> No, but it's just ashes. She's not providing. Bugs are walking by the ashes going, "Is this food?" Ah, it's just trash. just trash laying all over.
>> I think I think you should send that to bereavemancookie.com and they'll use it in the cake mix for or the cookie dough and then you can eat your grandma.
>> You [laughter] know what I'm curious about is like your loved ones watching.
They're so >> they're so if I burned Kyle if Kyle died and I burned him all the way down to the ashes and then burned his bones down, there's no way I could fit that in like a little pot. Like I there would be way more ashes than that. And after I scoop Kyle out and like decide what parts I put in there, I of course throw the rest away. I'm the mortician or guy at the crematorium or whatever. Also, I'm I'm not going to be on my hands and knees scrubbing that thing. And so really, when you get ashes, how do you know you're not getting like an amalgamation of a bunch of other people's?
>> You probably are.
>> They're not allowed to do that.
>> Who's going to stop them?
>> Here's what I want. No. No. What if you did this with the ashes?
>> These aren't my grandma's ashes.
>> Yeah. No, >> you could mix them with mortar and like do some sort of brickmasonry. So, she's there forever in like the driveway or the or or like a or like a fireplace or something, right?
>> Yeah. You're going to have to take this down, start over. Grandma's not OSHA certified, turns out. So, you're going to have to go to [ __ ] Home Depot and buy some mortaring with old old lady remains.
>> And look, I'm always talking about wanting to eat a person, and I'm totally down. If you want to send us all a little bit of those ashes, I'll eat some.
>> Oh, no. I'm going to only eat a cooked person if I'm doing >> I will mix those. I will if you I no matter how much of those ashes you send me, I will mix it up with chocolate milk and I'll eat it on the [laughter] show.
>> Oh, that's I would not >> And then she will live with me forever >> if my family is until I die.
>> I am not in this topic. [laughter] >> He does not know what he wrote all these jokes before the show.
What the? This is sick [ __ ] YOU THINK I WOULD SAY THIS VOLUNTARILY?
>> I don't want to eat grandma.
>> I do though. I I would eat your grandma if if if you sent me a little bit of her. I would put her with some like Nestlequ and I would I would drink that happily.
>> If I die unexpectedly, let it be known I want my ashes sent to Kyle. And you have to drink them on show.
>> I'll drink them on show. I'll do a line of >> You have to do a line of of of Taylor.
I'll I'll I'll scratch up a rail of uh of Taylor and I'll snort it right on the show. I don't care. Like absolutely Taylor ashes. I hope they're not gritty though. What if there's like big chunks of bone in there?
[laughter] You get a big chunk.
>> You could rim it like margarita glass.
Just rim it with ashes.
>> That's something [laughter] reason I don't want to be cremated. I I would rather be buried because then at least everything's staying where it's supposed to be and then you just slowly rot and you actually do feed all the bugs and the worms.
>> No, you don't. That that that's that's uh that's false because they pump >> because they pump you full of those chemicals that inbalming fluid and stuff and and so that you don't rot and the bugs don't eat you. You just stay there sort of preserved.
>> So if you like >> what you're going to have a funeral 4 days after you die and you're gonna not be >> Yeah. If you don't do it, you'll be smelling at the funeral. Like, if they don't get to your body and like suck all the fluids out and and like inject you with that inbalming fluid, like, you know, the funeral's usually three, five days, sometimes 10 days afterwards if you got to get family in or whatever, you'll be smelling.
>> I wonder [laughter] there's got to be a better way. There's got to be something better. Like what can you get planted and like grow into a tree or some [ __ ] There's got to be a service that's better than this.
>> I like that. Might >> be if they would if my wife would to be like, "Woody, it doesn't look good. I'm going to get the tractor. I'm going to build dig a hole now." And then, you know, as soon as you stop breathing, you're going in. I'd be like, "Yeah, that that's a suitable ending for me.
I'm down."
That's just me, though.
>> I like >> No one bombing a thing.
>> Yeah. A bios a biosern. So, they put your ashes ostensibly in there. Really, it's you along with the last 12 people who happen to die in your county. You're all put in that little area and then you become a tree later and years and years after everyone has forgotten about you and this company's long out of business.
>> Cool. And then you get that is pretty neat.
>> I honestly but but that's not cool enough. I don't want to I don't want them to make a tree with the ashes. I want them to take me and like form me into a tree and like the trees growing.
>> No, listen. Listen. They put the seed up my butthole and like and like stand me up with like some lattice work and then the tree grows out of me and and I become like a a horrifying rose tree or something like that. A >> skull rose tree.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, something beautiful, right? Like a Japanese cherry or something like that. Something something >> kind of vain even post death.
>> Yeah. I don't want to be a country or something.
>> How? So it's going to like come out of it's just going to start coming out of you at some point like >> but then but then you decompose is your bones are going to >> with a seed in his ass that turns into a Japanese cherry.
>> No. Yeah. But then you're not going to stay there.
>> You put a lattice work around me like like the way you do like a tomato but uh like a tomato plant. How it's got that that that uh that structure around it.
You do that with me and like form me into like a I don't know like a like walk like an Egyptian pose or something like that. Like whatever you know.
Nobody's going to want you in their yard.
>> Maybe like a Heisman thing, like whatever. But oh, people would want me in their yard. There's some people who would want me in their yard. I I guarantee I'd put Kyle in my yard for free. I'm not going to pay. But then there's somebody out there that would do like five bucks and there might be somebody.
>> You don't have to pay. I'm free. I'm free. I just want to be uh you know there for for posterity, you know, and so future generations can look upon me.
>> No. If I wake up and this and your grotesque malformed, disgusting, you know, totem of yourself is in my front lawn, I will pay to have it removed.
Actually, I'll just burn it myself and then I I'll just let the ashes blow where they may, you know, like [laughter] I'm >> Yeah, I'd rather be very normal and then just don't pump me full of formaldahhide or whatever it is. Just let me go in all natural, have the the funeral or six days later. By that time, I'm pretty ripe. People are gonna have to come to the funeral and pretend like it's not really really gross and awful and like they'll be talking to people and be like, "Man, he was such a such a great guy, you know." Yeah, he was.
>> Yeah, he [laughter] What was he eating?
>> Something crawled out of his mouth.
>> It s He smells like Guda. Oh, >> did you know his last wish was to be made into a tree? It's like, no.
>> I don't know, man.
You could probably get away with dying and being like cured as like a meat and then you could give it to Kyle and he could actually eat it.
>> That's more realistic.
>> Is that legal though? LIKE LIKE LIKE >> WHY WOULDN'T IT BE? YOU'RE YOU'RE OWN PERSON. I could cut off my arm and give it to you.
>> Yeah, >> that's definitely true.
>> I'm not sure about that.
>> I'm not sure that's true at all.
>> Wait, can't cut off my arm and give it to him?
>> I think cannibalism might be illegal somewhere.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Find out if I can eat a person. Is cannibalism legal if everyone's cool with it? [laughter] >> That's how it's phrased in the legal text.
>> Oh, here here it is. If both consent and the act is non-lethal, then I do believe it is. Then I do believe Why is this the top one?
>> Oh, that [laughter] is not that that's not the district attorney of blah blah blah laws right there. [laughter] >> This is some guy sitting under under a skin lamp typing late at night.
Otherwise, [laughter] I'd be in a world of trouble.
>> No, I look I would absolutely eat a person. I don't get the big like deal, right? Meat is meat and and from what I hear, we taste like pork and I love pork.
>> You have to cook it well.
>> Get basically. No, like like the belly meat of of like or imagine like you know you see a guy that or a girl that that's got like a really ripped belly like imagine slices of that lengthwise and now that's bacon.
>> That's that's what bacon is. It's the pork belly. You know >> that sounds pretty good. Til.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, I I would so much rather eat a nice Kyle's arm sausage than look even for a week at your contorted body ruining my front yard wrapped around a rose tree, you know, which is a new one.
>> Terrifying the neighborhood children.
[laughter] >> It was great for Halloween.
>> You thought it was a prank.
>> Yeah, you would definitely put that You could do that. You could only put me out during Halloween. How about that?
[laughter] every year like he's a little worse. His skin's coming off the bone.
>> Sorry about his left forearm. It's been three years.
>> Die in December, so it's not going well.
Yeah, he's just put your ruined [clears throat] body.
>> Kyle, that's like the I can't imagine what I'd rather not be made to do [laughter] that. I'd rather be heaved into a dumpster than somebody like postmortem crucifying me into awkward poses.
>> I'd love it. I'd love to be utilized in such a manner rather than just thrown into the ground to kind of rot in a $10,000 casket. You know, it's absurd.
No, use me for something. Prop me up.
>> Do you think you like how would you feel about like setting it up beforehand where it's like, "All right, when I die, you know, friends, I want you to find some news story going around that day in the area. take me up in a plane or a helicopter and just just heave me out. But you have to dress me up like I was going skydiving that day because otherwise [laughter] like the [ __ ] did this guy come from? LIKE NO, YOU have to have that on there. So when you LAND THEY'RE LIKE, "OH MY GOD, [laughter] it never deployed.
>> What have you seen full of cheese?"
>> Put me in like a NASA outfit and like scorched it really well before you threw me out. [laughter] That was a super joke.
>> I think I fell from [ __ ] space.
[laughter] Oh my god. Is that Chris Hadfield?
>> But you wanted them to drop.
>> Yeah, he's got a guitar >> in a news story. Yeah, the guitar.
>> He's got a guitar. Oh, he's >> So there's like a boy scout jamboree going on like some like predictable news story >> and you drop Kyle.
>> Oh [ __ ] [laughter] I I would love that.
I would love that. Like like we're just me.
>> They should get their cremation badge.
>> Yeah. [laughter] There's another uh that's another business there. Uh you know, your loved ones maybe don't want a traditional burial, so we're here to help you plan the best way out. You're just like a burial services team creates creative and fun ways to go out.
>> Yes. Creative funerals.org. That's get that chis right now. [laughter] >> Let's I could fire cool funerals like like All right. You have you seen that giant cannon that they have in the circus that they shoot people out of?
Yes. I've always wanted to get shot out of one of those cannons. Apparently, it's a proprietary like technology they use to do it. And no one knows really exactly how it works. I want to shoot bodies out of one of those cannons, right? Let it soften up a little first, >> then you fire it at 200 mph like a brick wall and it just splatters. That's one hell of a show. I'd watch that. I'd watch that show. Just bodies fly hurling hurled into a brick wall at 200 miles hour.
>> Yeah. I'd watch a lot of [ __ ] up shows. Like if they did uh like Public Executions on TV, I'd tune in for sure.
Imagine how much better that would be than Beyonce during the halftime Super Bowl show. All right. All right. Thanks for coming to the Patriots Broncos game.
We've got a couple of convicted rapists coming up, you know, and then they parade him out, execute him. Uh you get to fan vote. text 8088 to you know whatever whatever you know if you want him to be burned alive if you want him >> press for guillotine >> it's an awful even growing up in that city >> if when I did get my license and I'm patently I'm embarrassingly bad with directions and so there were a couple times I was driving downtown for like a Cardinals game or a Blues game, Rams game, whatever and I would find myself on the wrong side of the river or past, you know, MLK A or something and suddenly it's like, oh Jesus, oh Jesus, [ __ ] Like every stoplight is like, is this really a rule or this looks like a suggestion right now? And then just blow through it and try to get out of there because it's a scary area. You you would not do well walking there past nighttime. I had a cop pull me over when I was like I guess I was 16 or 17 and I got lost in that area and I was figuring my way out of it. like I wouldn't have been screwed. But the guy pulled me over and just like had me roll my window down on my my Honda Accord and the guy was like, "Hey, do you uh do you know where you are right now? Like do you do you know the way out of here? You definitely want to get out of here." I'm like, "Yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying."
[laughter] He pointed me in the right direction. I left. But like that's how bad it is. The cops pull you over just to tell you, you know, it's not a great idea. [laughter] Do you have your crack yet? Because you really get out. It's It's almost 9:00 p.m. [laughter] >> Yeah.
>> I sit the next corner. Just talk to him and then get the hell out. Like >> when I when I first started dating Jackie, this is like the early 90s. Um New York was a bit of a mess and I forget we were going to clubbing actually in New York and uh I got lost because like you I am embarrassingly terrible awful at getting places. This is preGPS. And uh like I don't know where I was in New York. I remember we passed Jerome Avenue at one point, but this [ __ ] was shady. And uh there were all sorts of like there were like abandoned cars all over the place. Uh people huttered around barrels with flames coming out of them. It looked like a scene from Escape from New York.
And and we're like we were really [ __ ] you know? It was only a couple miles before we we found ourselves in a better neighborhood. But uh but yeah, I I'll never forget it because like it was all the way bad. Like oftentimes I hear this is the ghetto and I think what's so ghetto about this, you know, like this grass in the front yard. Yeah. All right. There like trailers or what? It just doesn't look that bad to me. Heck.
Um uh what's that movie? Is it Friday or Thank God it's Friday or with Chris Tucker?
>> Friday's the first one. Yeah, >> Friday. The neighborhood that they live in and they sit on the front porch of doesn't look bad to me. You know >> zone >> what's that?
>> It's not a war zone.
>> No, it's not a war zone. My my father grew up in a way worse neighborhood than that one. Like I I I remember the smell of my dad's neighborhood. Like that was a thing.
>> All the families in Friday are like workingass black people. The um I don't know. I I know what you mean, though. I think the I know I know one of the it wasn't crime. I don't think I've ever been in a neighborhood that was just scary where I was actually afraid to be there. Of course, I'm usually armed. Um, but I know when we went to Seattle, I don't know if it was Seattle or LA. I think it was Seattle. Uh, and then followed by LA. That was the first time I'd seen like real uh widespread homelessness and uh and and that was crazy. I was just like, here's an untapped market. We got to get these hobos doing something.
Um, that's where I came up with the bum racing idea and the bums night out because we did there were so many homeless people down by the pier in uh in Seattle. Like we go down to the like seafood restaurant and we're all walking back and there's just dozens and dozens and dozens of them sleeping down there.
>> LA's like that, too. It feels like Raleigh has a couple homeless people and Jackie doesn't like it. And um, you know, whatever. That's just the reality.
But in LA, like I I've seen 1500 homeless people in two blocks.
>> Yeah.
>> They they roused them up and uh out of like the main areas though, like when something like E3 is in town, because I remember that's what they did uh that year. We were there for E3 and I was like, "Well, there's not that many homeless people." Someone was like, "Oh, normally they are. They they really like clean this part of the city up like a week in advance. Like they're they've they've just pushed the hobos out to the edges of the city." And I don't know if you were out outside the hotel that night. I know me and Extra were and a handful of other people like I don't know name name three commentators and they were there. U but like this this black lady comes up and she's clearly homeless and I don't remember what she was trying to do. She was just kind of kind of loitering and it was a really nice hotel and this uh this black bellhop comes outside who's also a lady and they start arguing back and forth and the homeless lady is calling the the bellhop an Uncle Tom and [clears throat] and they're screaming like like the n-word back and forth. It was great.
[laughter] She's like and she's like the the bellop's like calling. She's like they going to scoop your ass up too. They going to scoop your ass up too. And I got the impression that like she'd called that number a few times. That wasn't 911. That was like 1800 get a bum. And it [laughter] was like come in, throw some white nets over this lady and just take her somewhere. Like they totally were.
>> Yeah. It is like a different world. You get into those areas where it's like you you don't even feel well you you don't belong and you don't feel like you do where it's like one wrong step and I'm kind of [ __ ] Like if I the wrong thing or walk the wrong way or >> pull my phone out at the wrong time.
>> I can't I I've never experienced that. I wouldn't want to I wouldn't like that very much. I know.
>> Remember I I went to visit my grandmother once and uh this is where my dad grew up. It was across the street from a bar in um did she live in Cam? Gloucester Gloucester, New Jersey, which is just outside Camden. And um uh the big thing was like on several occasions when we visited it was like you know don't go there cuz there was a murder across the street last night and it was always a knife murder. It was you know and and I'm like you know can I walk around today? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No murders in like weeks but um Gloucester's [ __ ] up.
I Yeah.
>> Right. There are just areas where when you go in areas like that, the people who are near that area are like, "Oh, you should check out, you know, Tito's Bar, but uh definitely don't take 65th.
Like, walk this way. Someone got, you know, beat to death with a tire iron there last week, and you know, you want to steer clear, but >> yeah. Yeah, we used to go and mow her yard and stuff like that." And yeah, it was a it was a wreck. It was a bit of a wreck. is Newark. That's a pretty dangerous area, right? Or New York.
>> Yeah, Newark's a big city, though, right? So, there's there's good parts and bad parts or whatever. I like to think Camden and Patterson are the prizes of New Jersey. That Yeah, if you want some [ __ ] up neighborhoods, Camden and Patterson is good. I know I've said this before, but did you ever see the movie I think it was, was it Stand by Me? Like Morgan Freeman played this principal who like straightened up the high school.
>> Yeah, I think that might be Stand by Me.
Crazy Joe Clark was the principal's name.
Um, Morgan Freeman High School movie. There we go. It was >> Lean on Me.
>> Lean on Me.
>> So, the movie was Lean on Me. By the way, I hear the noise now. My ceiling fan's off. I'm innocent. Um, anyway, Lean on Me. He played this high school and it was like the worst caricature of a awful high school. All the kids are like not paying attention, not going to class, pregnant, dropping out, etc. That's where Jackie was zoned for. That was her base school. She went to a Catholic school, but that's that's where she would have gone had she not done private school. So, yeah, legit.
>> Oh, now that looks like a bad neighborhood.
And that second one looks like where my dad grew up.
>> Oh, yeah. those. I just like there are huge swaths of East St. Louis and even before you get there that look like that. Like uh North County where Ferguson is isn't even that bad. Where Ferguson and Berkeley are is not nearly as bad as East St. Louis.
>> Yeah, that second one reminds me of where my father grew up. And uh in behind the house would be a small yard.
Everyone had a chain link fence and they just have their little like section and the first one different but I also recognize it as not good.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. I'm perceptive enough to catch that one.
>> Yeah.
>> Have an answer for this one picked out, but I I saw an ask Reddit and it was interesting to me. Who is your anti-roll model? the person you never want to be like when you grow up.
>> Man, there's so many >> really. There's so many >> so many people that you like just don't like you look at them and you think like, "Oh, that that person kind of sucks."
>> Uh anti >> like a thing.
>> I don't I don't know.
>> Right.
>> Definitely like All right. So, like I've always had this thing in the back of my head. It was never a big thing and my father's never even mentioned it. So, it's like it's not it's not but but my my grandfathers both died um alcohol-related stuff and so I've always had in my head that like I never like was afraid to drink and I've drank plenty like hard liquor and I I drank to excess plenty of times but I've always had this thought that like don't want to become an alcoholic. I don't want to be I don't want to do that because that's the that that would be a real like cliche if like I I did that. I I couldn't do that. So, so like if anything, like I guess my grandfathers are my anti- role models uh in a way because they were both real scummy pieces of [ __ ] who like abused their wives and drank uh to excess and ended up dying because of it in both cases.
>> I had a >> That's a good answer.
>> I had a manager who didn't take care of his people. Um it was it was I don't want to out him too much. It was one of my managers at Cisco. I had a bunch of them. And uh it was almost like this guy made his career [ __ ] over people.
Like Cisco had this thing where they would fire something like 20% of the staff every quarter. Like the it was the bottom 10% the bottom 10%. So 10% of your staff would get fired every quarter. And you might think >> every quarter.
>> Yeah.
>> God damn, we run out of people in a year. [laughter] >> You might think like how hard is it to be in the top 90%. But when like if you're in a group of 10 and they fire four people a year like any if you trip, if you miss one deadline, if you miss anything, you could be that one in 10.
Like that could be a thing.
>> Was there ever sabotage? Because I'm going to tell you right now, let me go on if Okay.
>> Yeah. So I other managers didn't do this. Like they had a policy of doing it, but most managers were like, I don't have a bottom 10%. I like all my guys.
If I were to fire, I want to be firing a good person. He was like, nope. You know, like [ __ ] Hunger Games. They always found a way to fire someone quarterly. I I I've told the story before. There was a guy, he was in San Jose. The guy was a superstar. He comes out here. He was going through a divorce and he had three months where he just wasn't the best version of him. Manager fired him. Didn't last one quarter under my manager. And he had all these like awards from work, like crystal trophies and [ __ ] like that. And it's burned into my head. He took his trash can and he swooped all his like awards into the trash can and walked out the door.
That's it. worked under my manager for one month.
>> Now, is this a guy who was competing with you? Like, like like did your excellence >> No, no, no. I'm saying did your excellence >> sort of slide this guy to that that role of getting fired? Okay.
>> So, I was and I was an [ __ ] and I used to point out whenever he was stupid cuz he was dumber than me and uh well, you know, he would just like not know what day of the week it was sometimes.
[laughter] >> Not know what day of the week it was.
>> Yeah. You know, he'd be like challenges are there in an office, right? But like if if he if every time he slipped, I would like >> of course this is where I was headed with this. Of course. So So did you look at this guy and all of his crystal trophies with a bit of fear for your family?
>> Oh, no. I'm talking about the manager.
This guy in his crystal trophies. I thought I was going to learn something from him. Like I didn't Yeah. No, I I was >> That's where I was going with this. I was like, do you see this new Cuz I'm thinking we're a baseball team, you know, and you know, I'm starting pitcher over here and all of a sudden you get Greg Maddox in. He's got [ __ ] Sai Young's all over the wall over there and this this is the guy you you brought in?
I I'm hoping for his downfall.
>> I left my company and went to Cisco your account. This was just all IT people and it's like if you don't fulfill your IT responsibilities in the bottom 10 and this wasn't like the sales or the some other department. It was just this one >> like it wasn't a total Cisco policy.
>> No, no, it was a Cisco policy and he got the idea from GE where apparently it was a policy there too. And uh um anyway, yeah, so I I left my company and went to Cisco hoping to work with people better than me. I was kind of like the lead dog in a sled team at QAD and when I went to Cisco I was like I'm going to be surrounded by people who were all lead dogs on their sled team. So when this guy came I was like this is going to be great you know I'm going to learn from this guy. I'm going to be the super I'm going to grow. And uh he ended up getting fired pretty quickly. Um >> was there ever a like a quarter where maybe your numbers aren't so great and you're like maybe I'll go over to Jerry's computer and delete a few things.
>> No, [laughter] but I I did take my turn in the barrel.
add an extra zero in this huge line of code on Jerry's desk.
>> I uh anyway, so after after he stopped managing me and stuff, I kept watching this guy and he like led efforts to ship jobs to India and he led efforts to like get interns to do jobs and he always found a way to get like cheaper labor, fire people. Like his career was built on [ __ ] employees >> efficiency, >> but it didn't feel like that when you work for him, you know? Of course not.
>> Yeah. When you work for him, it was always like, "We need to find a way to have fewer people like you." And uh and that was his career. So, and he didn't grow anyone. No one like did well and became managers or whatever their dreams were. He was always like, "All right, I've got these 12 guys doing stuff for me. How can I make that 10? You know, how can I get that six and have two of them be interns? How can I, you know, get half of their jobs and ship them to India? How can we do this?" And and when you work and there was never a like how can we get Matt to the next level? How can we make Matt some sort of architect or whatever? No, not that. It was always [ __ ] your staff. So, uh if I had to pick a good work environment, right? Like if everybody's constantly stressed out, like you would think that in and of itself would take some uh productivity out of the mix because people aren't sleeping as well. They're in their free time. They're not getting true rest because you need real rest and free like no that's a real thing. Like These people are worried.
>> I'm just saying that maybe it's a bad >> killing the slowest worker or something every like like in one of those goologs or something like that. Uh gold production.
>> Yeah, that's a good model to run this on.
>> We got a whole lot more coal now uh than we did before. Well, if you're the guy in charge, who [ __ ] cares about the coal miners, right?
>> So, I was senior to this girl, right?
There's a girl named Tracy and uh I I just came into the job a lot more experienced with her. I was a higher pay grade and um we were both working on projects. The projects were not alike.
They weren't the same thing, whatever.
But I was doing well on mine and she was struggling a little. And he comes over and he's like, you know, I heard Woody smoked you on his project. And it's like that is not coming from me, you know, like why are you saying that? Why are you like getting on her? Like like that's not how you do this. Breeding weird competition between your staff.
This isn't teaming.
>> Maybe >> you know what you like you need that attitude.
>> Sounds like that's what he was doing.
Like like maybe it almost feels like if he ever were to withdraw and not have you guys under this like crazy system that you might you might all stop and go, "God damn, Rich is stupid, huh? Why is he our boss? Let's talk to Carl.
He'll fire Rich in a heartbeat. I know it." It was like he kept you on your toes.
>> Happens.
>> Yes.
>> This does make sense if it were a sales department because like if you look at the breakdown of any sales department, it's not like the top 10% get 20% of the sales and like the top 50% get 60% of the sales. like across the board for cars, for anything. I I mean, I'm sure Kyle will confirm this, that top 10, 15% of people are making 75% of the sales.
They're making the overwhelming majority of it. And so, in sales, it seems like that make might make sense because that bottom rung person, it's like, yeah, you you clearly aren't even competitive enough to be in this environment. You know, you're out of here. But if one of those good salesmen drops down, even that would be foolish. like you you wouldn't be you wouldn't get rid of them over after one bad quarter, you know, if if they have a a repertoire they can show you of look at this, look at this account, look at this account, look at this. So, I don't know. Seems like a stressful environment.
>> The big threat if people were being lazy around the dealership would always be new hires. It wouldn't be firing because who [ __ ] cares? You know, you're on commission anyway. You're just hanging out. It's like they got plenty of desks to sit you at. They don't care if you're there or not. Uh so the the threat would be a new hire. It's like ah y'all lazy [ __ ] I'm going to get some new people in here. I'm going to get some head knockers or some assassins or whatever he the boss would call them.
You know, I'm I'm going to get some really good people to come in here and replace you guys. And then every now and then he would punish like uh we had a big sales event and where that like they used a lot of uh they used all of our ad revenue for like the quarter or something for one big push in the newspapers and on TV and we uh we we did that thing where like if you're watching daytime TV and I'm I'm in the car pulling up and like and here's Kyle with a with a Jeep Grand Cherokee and I'm just I'm in the car and my boss is introducing the car and everything and we all so we spent a lot of money on this thing mother but but we weren't on our phones.
He saw that we weren't on our phones, so he makes a phone call and literally hires like a salesman for hire. Like like you think of like a gun for hire.
Like he goes and gets like a killer and brings him in. And this guy this guy's selling five cars a day. He was a killer. He he and we're all just like just >> seething with anger that they brought this cuz we're It's a real tribal type thing where like you're the new guy.
It's a while before we're going to accept you or have any respect for you.
we got to see you do something like we got to hear you say something smart at least like give some advice or sell a car do do a thing and this guy came in and it was like this guy's a shark like like like this is a shark and not a guppy like we got to watch this guy he'll steal our deals from us if he can but more likely he'll steal the customers and he'll he was just so good he was he's better than any of us but that was our punishment we you know stick around or was he >> No no no he just brought that guy in for for a three-day weekend that guy sold like 16 cars in a 3-day weekend or something. It was >> sold 16 cars in three days. That's insane.
>> We all sold a bunch of I mean on a weekend like that. It's pretty outrageous. It's a big big store. It's I think we had 15 acres of cars. So like sold a lot of cars that >> I was listening to Rogan and they were talking about uh dick pill dick pills um like gas station dick pills. Okay.
>> And they were this thing called Rhino7.
this pill called Rhino7. And uh they were saying that there were traces of like um testosterone in it and like if you take this pill, you can you'll test positive for who knows what because it's made in China and they don't clean the vats. Well, so like they'll do like a mix of [ __ ] steroids and then they'll do a mix of like rhino seven dick pills or whatever.
>> Very skeptical. Carry on.
>> Yeah. Well, well, they went on and on about it because and they said that um uh I can't remember which one of their one of their well, John Jones is one of the ones who who was on these and tested positive, but they were also talking about one of their friends was saying that it's much better than Sealis. And I was at the [ __ ] gas station a minute ago and they have Rhino7s. I'm a little embarrassed to buy a Rhino 7, but I'm very curious. It's an enormous pill.
>> Dude, get one and I'm interested. I just linked it on Amazon. So, I pictured it being in a vending machine in the bathroom. That That's not how it's for sale.
>> No, no, right by the counter. Right by the counter. Like, like you never noticed. Um, you go to the gas station, especially not like gone.
>> Oh, well, [ __ ] Going to the gas station sometime like right on the counter, they have a whole rack of like sexual aids.
They have uh energy pills and and like sex boosters and uh they I saw it. It was like Rhino7. And there's a picture of a rhino, of course, with the big horn, [laughter] right? you know >> that I didn't get that until just now.
The whole >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think I did either if I'm being honest. And and the pill is four times as big as like an aspirin tablet or something. It's huge.
I feel like I'd have a hard time getting it down, but they said it was just bonkers like like effective. I I I want one that >> the gas station by my house. Not the classiest joint. I feel like they would sell these.
>> Find them.
>> They've got all kinds of seedy [ __ ] at my gas station. They have porn. They have just porn DVDs in there like like no cover on them. It just says they they they they literally have like a white cover like paper and they wrote in black magic marker what the theme is. It's like black xxx which I guess means black girls and it's like butts xxx and I was like holy [ __ ] this is just as bad as like a a dirty cover and they've got all kind of switchblade knives and big bongs and hookas and [ __ ] >> Yours might be shadier than mine. But I I was at a gas station one time.
[laughter] >> I saw >> any gas station that sells hookas.
>> I saw a [clears throat] [ __ ] sketch as crack pipe at a at a gas station one time.
>> Black pipe.
>> A crack.
>> Oh, a crack.
>> Oh, yeah. I've seen those.
>> Crack cocaine. You know, it's got the or meth. It's got that ball on the end.
It's completely different than like a a bowl. It's I could not believe that they sold that there. I had never seen one in.
>> I would have totally thought that was a mini bowl. Like Oh, I see. Yeah. The ball in the end. That's where the pot goes.
>> No, cuz it's all glass and that's that is where the crack goes. That's where you put the crack rocks. And uh I there's a gas station in the city here that like I've gone to before on the way to like someone's place. It's like, "Hey, pick up beer." And I'll I went in and it's run owned by these Indian or Pakistani people. It's like, "Hey, do do you guys have beer at this [ __ ] gas station where every every gas station has beer and they're like they're like, "Uh, no, it is against our religion. We do not keep a beer here. no alcohol sir.
And I'm like, and I look down and there's an entire glass case full of hookas and pieces for weed and crack pipes of different sizes, [laughter] you know, for the festive crackhead.
Hey, I decided, you know, we were going to really go hard tonight, you know, [laughter] and I got a really big, you know, [ __ ] mobile on the run pipe.
And it was just an interesting thing of, wow, okay, so you can't sell me Bud Light at this [ __ ] gas station, but you'll sell that vagabond a glass pipe to ruin his life with. So, I don't know, you know, religion, right? [laughter] >> Well, my gas station is Muslims, but they apparently have no restrictions because they got alcohol, pornography.
If you sneak in the back, you can gamble. Um, they've got like video poker machines that take cash, which I know are illegal. You know, they got everything. They the no holds barred up there. I pretty and it stinks in there.
like it look it it's it was Indian people for a long time and I really liked the Indian people. I I'm pretty sure the owner's wife was really into me. She'd always give me a look and uh but now it's Muslim people. I know because their name they applied for like a liquor license uh to get liquor instead of beer and uh their license is on the you know the the thing or their name is. It smells so bad in there now that I may have to change gas stations.
You walk in and it hits you in the face.
It's like I don't know what it is.
>> Are we talking about the convenience store area or the bathroom >> in the convenience store? No, I think they It smells like they're they've got slave girls downstairs without plumbing or something. It It's awful in there. It smells like curry [ __ ] >> Oh man. Well, have you ever Have you ever gone to the bathroom there?
>> Oh god, no.
>> I've never had this [ __ ] so bad.
>> No. No. [laughter] I I'd rather go outside and [ __ ] on the walls.
>> Trace it down to the source and see what's up. [laughter] S feels like there's a dead possum behind the wall that's been eating curry for a year. It's just a terrible stink.
>> Scott and I had, you know, concealed carry permits. So, we'd often like, especially on those trips when there's lots of expensive [ __ ] in the truck, we'd be packing heat, concealed carry, and he wanted to do it, too, but he didn't have a license. And you'd have to continually be like, "No, no, no. Leave the gun in the car. You can't go into a [ __ ] gas station strapped, you moron." I'm like like you always have to be disarming this guy like like he'd uh >> sounds like dealing with a dangerous child.
>> A Georgia concealed by the way. I'm pretty sure you just mail in for that [ __ ] Like >> he didn't have $50. What are you talking about?
>> At the time he made at like I don't know Jeremy's exact age, you know? He's one of those like you look at him >> know his [laughter] exact age.
>> No one does.
>> That's unbelievable. Um, if I had to guess, I would say at this point, you know, cuz I'm 31, I I would say he's somewhere between uh 23 and 26. 20 maybe. I don't know.
>> You think he's five years younger than you?
>> I don't [ __ ] know.
>> I always thought he was about He's like my age.
>> I always pictured him as older.
>> I pictured him as Kyle's age. Yeah.
>> He doesn't [ __ ] moisturize, buddy.
[laughter] >> Got a bottle of Jack Black in there that I'm squeezing on twice a day. You got to be looking good.
>> The time that he saves not moisturizing and not brushing his teeth, >> you know.
>> Yeah. That's why he's so industrious.
[laughter] >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. That's why he gets so much done.
>> Yeah. Um but yeah, he's he he's just like he's made all kinds of like he's married to the I'm not going to like tear down his his entire life here, you know. We've been pretty hard on him. I don't think he listens, but he might, you know, but but he's a real [ __ ] Um, it just just a real I I I've told the story before, but quickly, you know, we're we're in a five-star hotel in Houston, Texas. Like right next to Flemings, like I don't remember what the name of the hotel was, but this [ __ ] gets locked out of his hotel room. They they he and my cousin come to my room because I've got a balcony to smoke cigarettes. You know, they want to smoke off the balcony. So, we all smoke a cigarette and it's like, "All right, good night." They go back to their room. They get locked out of the room. Scott is wearing a t-shirt and like pajama pants. Jeremy is in pink boxers with hearts on them and nothing else. And they play paper rock scissors to decide who has to go downstairs to ask for a key. Jeremy loses. So I get a phone call in my hotel room. Uh Mr. Myers, um there's a gentleman down here who says he's in one of your rooms. Hey, Mr. Fulbright. And I'm just like, [snorts] "Yeah, he is. Uh, give him a key." Well, we're gonna need you to come down and verify that you are who you are. And I'm just like, "Well, who else would I be? I'm in my room." And they're like, "We need you to come down." And I come down and there he is. There's a p there's a man playing a piano in the corner. Okay. There's there's a restaurant attached where people are wearing like um jackets and ties.
There's piano music playing. There's a concierge wearing a goddamn bow tie 30 feet away. And there's Jeremy at this 10 $10,000 marble counter wearing nothing but pink boxers with his nipples pierced and his rebel flag tattoos all over his goddamn body and and his hair's a mess cuz he's he he's one of those rednecks that always always always wears a hat, but not right now. So, [laughter] it's just mangled up and crazy. and he's like playing with his nipple piercing and I have to approach and be like, "He's with me." [laughter] >> You're right. I've never seen this man before.
>> Thank you for calling me.
>> Yep. That uh he's with me. And she gives me a key and I give it to him. And that was just a just a real embarrassment. Um everywhere we took him. Just just a real uh >> You know what the the thing that I don't like? What I would ask him about is stealing your guns, right? Kyle would like lend him a 1911 or something.
People don't know, we'll call this a $750 gun and then he would just keep it like maybe forever just with no intention of ever returning it. Like, you want this back, you got to catch me >> to it. So, he would borrow guns and I would lose track of how many he'd borrowed. And and it'd get to a point where like I was consolidating my guns or I was like organizing my guns and I'd be like, "Where the [ __ ] are all my guns? Goddamn." And so I was like, you know, calling up like, "Hey, Jeremy, do you have some of my guns?" And he's like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah." I was like, "Jeremy, I need you to bring all of my guns that you have over here because I'm like consolidating. I'm cleaning. I'm >> only if you can name the ones I have."
[laughter] >> I remember he brought them back and he literally he brought them back and he literally had $22,000 worth of guns. He literally had $22,000 worth of guns borrowed. And I was just like, >> we're gonna be on a one at a time basis from now on. Jerome, just you check one out, you got to bring it back to get another. This is just way too much. You had an arsenal.
>> As a non-gun owner, what what do you borrow guns for? What do you What is the problem you have that you need that you need to borrow a gun?
>> Uh, you know, you want to his thing, he liked to show them off to people. Um, he liked to go to Walmart, be like, "Yeah, look what I got. I got a [ __ ] crazy thing here." And he would also go uh deer hunting with guns. Sometimes he like um he'd go shooting. You know, it'd be a thing where like him and his buddies are going somewhere to shoot.
You know, they're going to go down by this to the river or somebody's house and everybody lays out eight rifles and then they they borrow each other's guns and they shoot a bunch of targets. And so he'd want to borrow multiple guns, but mostly to like show them off and brag that he knew me or pretend they were his potentially. I don't know, something like that.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah.
But like like if I lived close to Kyle and I wanted to go shooting, like I wouldn't want to go rent the same guns that Kyle has from a range and they probably wouldn't have nearly the selection Kyle does of stuff to rent.
And so of course I'd go to Kyle and borrow go shoot that because >> So you're you're breaking up.
>> Among the things you could throw out the water ball seems pretty low impact, right? Like if you threw a blue Gatorade out there and it got all over the ice, maybe that make a little bit of a mess.
>> Coaches throw tantrums in hockey and it happens every so often. Coaches get so pissed off they'll grab >> throw sticks.
>> Yeah. Like 15 sticks out in the ice and they spray around and it's like ah >> clean that [ __ ] up. [laughter] >> That's what it is in baseball. Like like that's exactly what it is cuz like the the umpires, the officials are in charge of keeping the play surface right, you know, where and that usually means dusting off home plate and not much more. So like they'll kick all the [ __ ] dirt they can on that home plate. They they'll even like if they're really crazy they'll get down on their hands and knees and like make a mound of >> you see the guy who stole the bases and stuff. You did all of it at once.
>> Sometimes they'll take the base and just sling it out in the outfield. So you got to walk out there and get it. Uh but sometimes they'll [ __ ] [ __ ] seconds coming with me.
The baseball managers always seem like way more like at their own pace with their tantrums because everything's so spread out that they're going to [ __ ] with that they're like and another thing [laughter] >> squishing it over as they slowly walk over and I'm taking this base. I'll be there in 10 seconds if you want to try [laughter] and stop me. I'm taking >> I'm going to be the bag interesting. I'm no expert but like there's a set of things you can do. Like for one, you can't touch the ump. can't touch him at all, but apparently you can kick dirt on his feet and you can kick you can mess with the plate and you can steal some bases, but like touching them all of a sudden like that goes wildly over the line. Even if it's just like an accidental finger on the shirt type thing like that's so they'll they'll be centimeters from each other nose to nose yelling yelling yelling and you know but that's okay but don't touch. You touch all of a sudden it's a bit it's fun to watch.
>> You can't purse at them audibly. You can't yell. You can't say >> [ __ ] you loud enough for anybody else to know that you just insulted that guy. I don't know how where this rule's written down or how exactly it works, but but in practice, here's what happens. You'll be batting. He calls it a strike. You know, it was a ball. You [ __ ] like do like a vampire COUGH OR SOMETHING. [ __ ] [ __ ] LIKE you could say it as loud as you want if he can't see your lips, you know? He can. As long as you look the opposite [ __ ] WAY AND GO [ __ ] BLIND JACKASS, that's cool. But if you direct that toward that man over there, you're out of the game. You're in trouble. So I >> such a silly rule. I wish you were allowed. They didn't get that from hockey. [laughter] >> You're allowed to scream at uh John Tordella was the coach. This happened two years ago. He's he was the coach for the Vancouver Conucks at the time and they were playing the Calgary Flames.
And this would be a great clip to watch for able to do that. And the beginning of the game, the they're both Canadian teams, not too far from each other, I assume. And so they're rivals of sorts.
And before the game started, the the Flames coach, if I recall correctly, put out his fourth line, the PE, the Bruisers, and that's not what you usually do at the start of the game. You put the good guys out there usually. And so Tortoella goes, I'm putting my bruisers out there at the start of the game. And so the start of the game was just both fourth lines. And and both of those guys are kind of like, >> oh, like, all right. Like we're out here starting the game.
>> [laughter] >> What guys? Can you believe I was in the miners yesterday this? And so they're all out there and meanwhile, you know, the glass partition between the two benches. Both coaches or the Calgary coach is a little more classy. So he's still in like his standing area and Tortoella is over there leaning around to the Calgary bench going, "IS THIS WHAT YOU [screaming] WANT? IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT?" LIKE SCREAMING [laughter] AT HIM. AND SO the game starts and all five players drop their equipment and pair off with someone and all five of them are fighting and then there are >> 10 people in the penalt. So both teams fourth lines and first line defenseman are out of the game for a bit and uh in between periods he got so mad. Tortoella got so mad that he went to the Flames locker room. He went to their lock the visiting locker room and went in and was screaming and like security had to be like holding him back like coach like this this is really [ __ ] inappropriate. He's like yeah I'll show you what's [ __ ] inappropriate. PUT YOUR GUYS OUT THERE LIKE THAT HUH? LIKE JUST DO HIS HIS [ __ ] coach scream and he's American not Canadian as a coach which is rare. And also the reason I think he got so animated at that instead of saying oh I'm real sorry you know sometimes a couple just get thrown you know. I just imagine the other guy just just being like, "All right, you want to [ __ ] go?" You [ __ ] Mo doesn't even skate. I found him in K1. [laughter] >> K1.
>> Well, he gets out there.
>> He wears grippy cleats onto the ice.
[laughter] >> You thought he had a hockey stick. No, that's a bow staff. He's about to open a real canical pass on your whole [laughter] team. He's out there.
>> I wonder if there are people who fight better on skates, right? Because [laughter] here's the thing. At the beer league level, the guy that wins the fight is often the better skater, you know, because that guy's more stable and a lot of fighting has to do with throwing the other guy off balance in a hockey fight. Um, but at like the pro level, they're all good skaters. I don't think anyone loses fights because they get pushed around too easily. They they they live their life on skates. Are there people who are like I I swear you'd be way more badass at the beer league level if you had grippy cleats.
You know, you'd be the so solid that other guy would be a toy for you to toss around.
>> Yeah. You'd want a pair of if you were the fighter, the guy who's who may be ready to come off the bench, you'd want two pieces of footwear. A pair of skates for sure. And then a pair of steel cleat >> for if you've got to storm the [ __ ] ice, right? You had like >> Yeah. the old tiny steel cleats that were more like thumbtacks on the bottom than the new the new baseball cleat are a bunch of blades, dull blades basically and different >> uh nasty business doing it with the cleats though because if you're up against >> me in a beer league, you're going to beat my ass. But if you're up against a real professional hockey fighter, what he's going to do is he's going to grab right here on your jersey and he's going to use his professional NHL legs to skate backwards really quick. you're gonna fall and then he's going to do the thing that you'll see in hockey fights where they grab and they push you back and then they pull their hand back and bump bump and they punch you like that and that's that's exactly what happens.
>> I was going to say that I know it's I'm the the least knowledgeable but I've definitely am aware and have seen the technique of the hockey fight. It's a whole different kind of combat and the rules are very different from a lot of other kinds of combat because the ice, the skates, the pads, the loose jerseys, the the helmets who that may or may not be on. There's a lot of variables that aren't there in regular combat.
>> I guess in grappling sometimes grabbing the clothes is a big deal. Like >> there's a little ghee work in there, right? Like >> it's [laughter] gee work is essential in hockey. Just the way that >> controlling the other guy is twothirds of the fight.
>> I just imagine choking a guy out with his own jersey. Just get behind him.
>> I love all the the [ __ ] talking like videos cuz they're all Canadian. like when like the real fighter goes up against the guy who like kind of got conscripted into the fight, you know, because like if someone does something shitty to you to a teammate, you you have your it's your duty to go over and fight him. And often times the bruiser will do something shitty and the closest guy is like a 20-year-old rookie who's like, "Oh, Jesus." So, he has to skate over there and start getting in a fight with him. And immediately you'll you'll uh there's one clip of the the big bruiser guy coming in. He's like, "Oh, yeah. Which which shoulder do you want?
You left, right? Which one you prefer?"
Huh? You know, cuz they you always grab the other person's shoulder there. And he was like offering like, "Which one do you want? You I'll let you pick. You know, it's going to go great for you. I promise." You know, take a >> I would grab their left. I would always grab their left, right? I want I'd want that crossover. And I feel like this arm can then really like, first of all, I feel like I control their left arm completely now. They're not going to be able to come up and over with that. And I feel like their right arm has to come over my right arm now. And I I just feel like I could if I pull them this way, then they're turning away from me and I can punch them behind the ear. like with the cross shoulder thing >> because if you pull on their jersey here too hard, what it'll end up doing is they'll slip their arm out of their jersey and punch you.
If you if I thought I had his arm and then a third arm came out of the neck [laughter] and [ __ ] pop me, I'd be like, "God dared, [laughter] [laughter] >> I can see Kyle. taken with a one punch.
This this I SIT IN THE BOX LIKE FOR FIVE MINUTES LIKE THIS. [laughter] HOLD my nose.
>> Life it only takes one punch. It [ __ ] hurts to get punched in the in in the face. We b I boxed three weeks ago now.
>> He hit me once. He hit me once and we quit. It was like, God, that's such a wakeup call to life and to the [laughter] nature that oh god that we used to exist like this where this might happen at any [ __ ] time. like, "God damn, you got a 16 ounce glove."
>> My boxing coach used to give me body shots that were hard. And I I was just like I asked him at one point, I'm like, "When you're in a real boxing match," cuz he was like a pro boxer. It wasn't like highly ranked or anything, but he was a pro boxer. I'm like, "How much harder do you hit like when you're trying because it seems like this is full power. This seems like it's awful, you know, because he was just he was just boxing me up, man. like I I He could have gone lighter on me. You know, my my Brazilian jiu-jitsu instructors, they used to reward good behavior. Like they put me in a bind and if I executed the proper technique, they'd allow that to go on. Uh the boxing guys, the culture was different. He would just box the [ __ ] out of me. And >> yeah, I've seen that so much, like guys getting [ __ ] up in boxing. Um, I I there's a video and it's it's like blah blah blah, whatever the guy's name is, some some known fighter gets taken apart by a 16-year-old and like this guy is just destroying him in there to the point where he leaves the ring. He runs away and everybody's just kind of like he gets laughed at a little bit. It It was He just got beaten badly by this amateur kid and he literally runs from the ring.
>> How could that happen?
>> That's weird. Was he drunk or something?
Uh, I think the deal was he he wasn't as good of a fighter as as they thought he was or something.
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