Abortion Caller MELTS DOWN When Jimmy Asks One Question | Jimmy Snow & Promise Backlund

[00:00:00]Lucian, in Texas, did you figure your [ __ ] out? Can you hear us now?

[00:00:04]>> Yeah, I'm sorry. I was on the phone with my mother.

[00:00:08]>> Weird. All right. Yeah, sure do.

[00:00:11]All right, Lucian, how old are you?

[00:00:14]>> I'm 18.

[00:00:17]>> You're not the one who you're for who months back called in and you yelled at your mom while you were on the phone, right?

[00:00:25]>> No, that wasn't me.

[00:00:25]>> you. Are you sure? I think that was you.

[00:00:28]She came in your room and you're mad at her for it.

[00:00:32]>> But I don't think that was me, no.

[00:00:35]>> Okay, not sure though.

[00:00:37]All right. All right, Lucian.

[00:00:40]What point do you want to make?

[00:00:43]>> Okay. So, can I just I I just want to ask like a series of questions. Let's do this Socraticly. Socratic method time.

[00:00:50]>> No.

[00:00:51]>> No, you don't >> No, you can't. You're calling in to present You're You're calling in to present your point and then maybe we can get to the Socratic method. I might decide I want to ask my questions to you. Uh but no, you're not the host of the show.

[00:01:02]So, what point are you Which position are you wishing to defend?

[00:01:09]>> Okay. So, fetuses are humans, right? So, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, it applies to them. And I believe the third the the third the Well, well, it's a human. It's a It's a member of the human species.

[00:01:26]>> Right.

[00:01:27]>> Um so, the thing that says Declaration of Human Rights, >> Uh-huh.

[00:01:31]>> that human part, you know, the human part in human rights, it applies to all humans.

[00:01:37]>> But they don't get more They don't get more rights than any other humans either, which is what you would be advocating for. So, >> and that's a separate position that definitely I'm going to let Promise go with, but actually you are incorrect. It doesn't apply to all humans. There are many instances when, for example, uh uh in times of war, in times of repercussions for certain crimes, for individuals who have reached brain death, that in fact merely having Homo sapien DNA does not declare you as a person entitled to all human rights. In fact, there are lots of things with Homo sapien DNA, for example, the afterbirth, the the stuff that you're actually the placenta has Homo sapien DNA. It also has no rights because it's not just enough to be Homo sapien, it's not just be enough to be alive, it means you have to have reached personhood. So, there is a difference between being a human and a human being.

[00:02:39]And so, no, you are quite incorrect that just for having Homo sapien DNA, you are entitled to human rights. That is not true.

[00:02:47]>> A placenta is an organ, though. It's not an organism.

[00:02:51]>> A placenta is you are the one setting the bar so low and saying that it is clear that if it is if it's a Homo sapien, what is a human if not a living thing with Homo sapien DNA? And again, I just gave to you you somewhat tellingly wanted to get specific to the organ when I gave you actually multiple examples of Homo sapiens who are human beings who don't even have the right to not die.

[00:03:22]>> Uh what what do you mean? The right to not die. Who Who What uh In What independent human organism has the right to die, you know? I mean >> The right to die is not the same as not having the right to not die.

[00:03:38]Uh the literally literally I all of Iran and Gaza would like a word with you.

[00:03:45]We have lots of instances where we decide that even civilians who are innocent do not have a right to not die.

[00:03:54]>> I I Well, they have the right to life as well. Civilians have the right to >> No, they don't. They definitely don't cuz we killed them and nobody Okay, great. What justice is going to happen for the civilians who died in Gaza?

[00:04:05]Since there is a right, somebody has violated that right. What Who's going to get punished for it?

[00:04:10]>> I mean, I I believe Israel is a terrorist organization. So, um >> Okay, great. What about America? America just killed a bunch of 150 schoolgirls at in Iran on a civilian target that was a known civilian target because of their laziness in not verifying their targets, 150 civilian children died. How will they be getting justice?

[00:04:34]>> I don't know. I I guess we have to find out how to get the the Israelis and the the foreign lobby out of government so that >> Except for we don't.

[00:04:44]Except for that we don't and we won't because in America, if you are at war, civilian casualties, you do not have the right to not be a civilian casualty.

[00:04:53]You're you Lucian, you've already lost this and we haven't even gotten to Promise's argument, which smokes you completely because at the end of the day, Lucian, if you are a foreign combatant, if you are a foreign combatant, you don't get to you don't get a right to life even if you are a civilian. If you are in the same country as people who are fighting somebody, you don't get a right to life. You're not going to get to talk over me, Lucian.

[00:05:16]You've never been good at this and you're even worse at interrupting me. If you are an individual who has reached brain death, you don't have a right to life and yet you are a human, you were a human being, but if you have reached brain death or you are even even if you haven't hit even if you haven't hit Hey, Lucian. Lucian, you're literally reaching for Holocaust.

[00:05:42]But, that's not a difficult one to answer.

[00:05:45]>> Palestinians The Palestinians and Iranians, they don't have the right to life because the Jews killed them. So, what about the >> Literally literally the Can I ask Lucian, you're a [ __ ] [ __ ] because literally what you are describing is true.

[00:05:58]I don't give a [ __ ] about an ad hominem.

[00:06:00]You're a [ __ ] [ __ ] You're literally invoking the Holocaust. You are quite correct. The government of Hitler's government, you [ __ ] [ __ ] did not extend the right to life to Jews in the Holocaust. Correct? They did not end the great The grave injustice was that they did not have the right to life, you [ __ ] idiot.

[00:06:25]Jesus Christ.

[00:06:26]>> Wait. Also, so Lucian, what about when somebody comes in and like if there's a school shooter and they end up getting shot, did they have the right to life in that moment when they're trying to take the life of other people?

[00:06:40]>> So, now So, now So, you guys believe that Nazis >> I just asked you a question, Lucian. I just asked you a question.

[00:06:48]>> Yeah, I don't >> Does that Does that person >> school shooter, so I don't know.

[00:06:51]>> Does that person have the right to life?

[00:06:53]>> your [ __ ] face. [ __ ] you in your absolute [ __ ] face. You're on the side of Nazis, you little [ __ ] Where do your rights come Hey Lucian Lucian Lucian, where do Who are Who extends Lucian, who extends rights? Where do you you get your rights from?

[00:07:08]Who do you extend rights, you [ __ ] idiot? Who do you get your rights extended from?

[00:07:13]>> Who do I get my rights from? Uh well, rights >> come from?

[00:07:18]>> They don't come from the government.

[00:07:19]Just because a government >> do. Yes, you do. So, fundamentally, you don't know what the [ __ ] you're talking about. Your rights absolutely come from a government.

[00:07:27]>> You get your rights from from social contracts.

[00:07:33]>> Yes.

[00:07:34]How do you not understand how this works?

[00:07:37]>> And social contracts are independent of uh, bad governments or you know, nations. So, I believe someone has the right to life.

[00:07:44]>> I'm sorry, are you now trying to No, all right. Welcome Welcome to the ban list.

[00:07:48]You will never be on the show again.

[00:07:50]You're banned from all cuz you're literally trying to drop R-slurs. Why are you trying to drop slurs on my [ __ ] channel, you [ __ ] idiot?

[00:07:56]You've already shown you're an idiot.

[00:07:57]And now you're trying to drop slurs. Is this your [ __ ] channel, [ __ ] >> I don't know, man. I I I >> Yeah, [ __ ] you in your [ __ ] face.

[00:08:05]You're blocked from all the shows. [ __ ] you. You're a [ __ ] idiot. [ __ ] [ __ ] Of course rights come from the government.

[00:08:11]You [ __ ] idiot.

[00:08:15]Jesus [ __ ] Christ.

[00:08:17]I'm tired of Lucian. I'm sorry, Promise.

[00:08:19]I know you probably wanted to have Lucian's literally an insufferable douchebag.

[00:08:24]>> He wasn't going to answer my question. I asked a very simple question and he immediately said that we're on the side of Nazis instead of answering my question because he knew that that already answering that question was already going to put him in a bad spot.

[00:08:35]So, that's okay.

[00:08:36]>> By the way, the person who never was my argument, if it was an ad hominem fallacy, an ad hominem fallacy would be, don't listen to him because he's an idiot.

[00:08:44]>> Because he is Yeah, but you >> made that.

[00:08:46]>> Right.

[00:08:47]>> This man >> an actual argument.

[00:08:48]>> literally used a red herring fallacy.

[00:08:50]His argument was, therefore you're on the other side of Nazis, which isn't true and is a fallacy to jump to. Oh, oh, so you're a Nazi? Oh, so you're a Nazi? It's actually a multiple fallacies, among which is a red herring.

[00:09:03]But anyway, uh, I'm going to let all the producers know Lucian now banned for slur use.

[00:09:11]What a [ __ ] little [ __ ] Lucian, Texas, now banned.

[00:09:19]18-year-old By the way, he was the kid who melted DOWN. GET OUT OF MY ROOM, MOM.

[00:09:24]Get out OF MY ROOM.

[00:09:26]MOM, GET OUT OF MY ROOM.

[00:09:29]IF YOU'RE GOING TO CALL IN and start with telling us how you're going to run the show and we're going to do the line of questions the way you want.

[00:09:37]And then you're going to go with so you're the side of Nazis and fundamentally you're calling in to say talk about rights. You don't even know where rights come from.

[00:09:46]Of course rights come from the government. You can go with like go ahead.

[00:09:51]>> I was shocked that he didn't claim they come from God cuz that would have just been >> Well, we know that's deep down what he wanted to say but then if he says that and there is no God we have no rights and there isn't a God so we don't have any rights from anything other than what we agreed to. It doesn't make them arbitrary. In fact, the most arbitrary morals are the ones extended by a God.

[00:10:12]People think it's like it just goes like this.

[00:10:16]Somebody says that's a moral or they say to me, well, you're an atheist so what makes killing a moral? Okay, cool. We can literally have a discussion about why that would be a moral, why we should prefer well-being over to non-well-being, life over non-life. We can defend and go it's not arbitrary to anything except the universe. The universe doesn't [ __ ] care but we are the people who give meaning. So as the meaning givers what do we give meaning to? What is the thing that is the most important? Uh and so you have that discussion and we will actually defend why it's good and they'll just go no, murder's wrong because God says it's wrong. Okay, great.

[00:10:50]>> This is what someone I dealt with yesterday and they started defending slavery shockingly. That's where it always goes.

[00:10:57]>> My question would be what's God's justification for murder being wrong?