Court Took a VERY Strange Turn…

Added: 2026-05-06

[00:00:00]Mr. >> All right. Good morning, Mr. Benson.

[00:00:03]Again, >> good morning.

[00:00:06]>> All right. We're on the record the matter of the city of blind offers.

[00:00:08]Gregory Benson 26553.

[00:00:13]>> Good afternoon, honorable employer. On behalf of Gregory Benson, Mr. Benson, please state your name, sir.

[00:00:19]>> Gregory Benson. Gregory.

[00:00:23]>> Thank you.

[00:00:24]>> Okay. And um council.

[00:00:29]Yes, my client will wait formal reading and stands mute to the church.

[00:00:33]>> The court will wait the formal reading, enter plea of not guilty for purposes of the arraignment and then as to the pre-trial. I'm sorry. Um it does appear as though you took this opportunity to pre-trial this matter with the prosecuting attorney. Correct.

[00:00:46]>> That's correct.

[00:00:48]>> All right.

[00:00:51]>> Offer.

[00:00:57]>> All right, sir. I'm going to have you please raise your right hand.

[00:01:02]You solemnly swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give in this matter be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

[00:01:08]>> Yes, your honor.

[00:01:09]>> All right. And sir, you heard the plea that was placed on the record, correct?

[00:01:14]>> Yes, your honor.

[00:01:19]>> Ask the charge, sir, of disorderly conduct.

[00:01:22]How do you plead?

[00:01:26]guilty.

[00:01:29]>> And you've gone over your advice of rights with your attorney, correct?

[00:01:33]>> Yes, your honor.

[00:01:34]>> And you understand all of those rights?

[00:01:37]>> Yes, sure.

[00:01:39]>> Yeah, I did it.

[00:01:40]>> You also understand, sir, by entering into a plea that you'll be waving some of those rights.

[00:01:45]>> Yes, sure.

[00:01:47]Come over.

[00:01:50]And >> you also And you also understand, sir.

[00:01:57]Huh?

[00:02:00]That you understand the possible penalty whether in this court, any other court or administrative agency?

[00:02:07]>> Yes, Ron.

[00:02:08]>> Hey, can you look to see when he was recently released from Wayne County Jail, please?

[00:02:14]He was just sentenced March 25th.

[00:02:18]>> Oh, good lord. All right. This is all from Zach over at Lardsite. I don't know. I haven't seen it yet, but I think that we've got an unauthorized display of the [ __ ] >> Can I come up with a thousand?

[00:02:32]>> Just one moment. And um sir, has anybody promised you anything, threatened you or coerced you in any way for you to enter into a plea?

[00:02:40]>> No.

[00:02:41]>> Any immigration issues?

[00:02:44]>> No.

[00:02:46]>> All right. And um council, if you can please your client.

[00:02:50]>> Yes, I will. Mr. defense if you're calling and city wind up.

[00:02:58]>> Yes, >> yes, thank you. And there was a report someone contacted the police and they said that there was a person without clothing laying in an alley uh in the vicinity of Was that you?

[00:03:13]>> Yes, your honor.

[00:03:14]>> Yeah, it was me.

[00:03:15]>> Not your honor.

[00:03:17]>> Don't demote him.

[00:03:18]>> Don't Yes, sir. Don't insult me. I'm sorry, Mr. Benson. And at that time the uh you uh you had contact with W police officer. Is that correct?

[00:03:29]>> Yes, Sean.

[00:03:31]>> Okay. And we'll move forward. And at that time, you had alcohol on your possession and a blood alcohol level of 101. Is that correct?

[00:03:41]>> I've been trying to go down to team milk. Yes, sir.

[00:03:44]>> We'll get to that. Hold on. So, you try to answer my questions. So you had an interaction with the officer and it deter >> you know the first rule of swingers club is you can't talk about swingers club and drinking your alcohol open alcohol with you at that time. Is that correct?

[00:04:01]>> Yes. Yes your honor.

[00:04:03]>> Okay. And would you you would do you agree that that constitutes this orderly conduct?

[00:04:09]>> Yes your honor.

[00:04:11]>> Thank you your honor.

[00:04:14]>> Okay. So the court will accept your plea as knowing, voluntary, and facts accurate. I mean, I would think that him laying unclothed and his behavior for that would qualify as disorderly, but um council as to sentencing >> situation, Mr. Benson, you uh you know some of his history, he's advised me and he just tried to interrupt me and explain to the court that he has an appointment with teen mental health.

[00:04:44]Apparently that other matter like you had just referenced May 1st. Is that correct Mr. Benson you had some treat you have an appointment with teen mental health? Yes, your honor.

[00:04:56]>> And he is diagnosed. Apparently, he was not he was off medications. He has some sort of a mental disorder. I don't know that he's completely I don't believe he's completely dis disabled by that, but he's been diagnosed uh with some psychoactive disorder, schizophrenia perhaps. and he believes that his conduct that day he was off his uh medications that may have contributed uh to some very very very important ridicul um and so >> so let me get this straight if he forgets to take his medication or just refuses to then then the clothes come off is that what I'm understand >> yeah I don't know how you want to don't know how I would handle this if I was promoted to judge This is a is a difficult case to >> Well, here's what here's what I I I'll say that I'm um Ellie can Oh, Autumn.

[00:05:56]>> Okay. Can you pull up his most recent one from February, please, and tell me what I ordered because I'm pretty certain I ordered 90 days jail. I don't know if I ordered treatment.

[00:06:08]>> Just one moment, sir.

[00:06:16]Um, yes. From February.

[00:06:30]>> Looks as though it was February.

[00:06:33]>> Okay.

[00:06:34]>> 21st. What does it show? My sentence was that I ordered 90 days jail.

[00:06:42]51 start at 51.

[00:06:49]So by my calculations that's still 39 days.

[00:06:56]And when did I sentence him?

[00:07:10]Well, when were you released, sir?

[00:07:13]>> 30 days ago. I just I was trying to walk down the team mental health. I've been going down the team. I'm just I walked out of my cone. I was went to team mental health.

[00:07:24]>> Sir, sir, just for a moment. Just one moment because I'm pretty certain I also told you stop coming back to wa. You don't do I just my family.

[00:07:38]>> Sir, >> Mr. Benson, please please stop for a moment.

[00:07:47]>> I you 90 days jail on March 27th.

[00:07:51]>> Credit for 51. That means you should have still been serving.

[00:07:55]Stop talking, >> Mr. Benson. Stop talking, please. And stop interrupting my record.

[00:08:00]>> Yes, sir.

[00:08:01]>> Okay. So, you should have served 39 more days. So, by my credit, you should have already you should maybe just now or by my calculations, you should just now be getting out if they're giving you credit for certain days. Otherwise, you should have still Otherwise, you should have still been in custody.

[00:08:19]>> I can assure you that you should have served more than 30 days. I >> got time served.

[00:08:25]I did three months, >> sir. Further, you have a number of warrants out from other jurisdictions.

[00:08:33]So, I'm really not sure how you how you were released. Additionally, I am fairly certain I ordered you not to return to the city of Wot upon your release from your last order of jail.

[00:08:49]you just sir teen mental teen mental health uh is right there in off isn't it right there off of Jefferson downtown Detroit?

[00:09:00]>> No, it's off um off um this 14799 Dicks Toledo Road. I went to see >> Not W dot still not W dot, sir. Still not W dot.

[00:09:13]>> That's Southgate. That's where my um my case worker at and my and my case management over there. I got See, >> that's great, sir. That's not W dot yet.

[00:09:23]You were found in W dot again.

[00:09:28]>> Uncloded. You didn't have any clothes on, sir.

[00:09:32]>> Okay. Yes, ma'am.

[00:09:35]>> I'm trying.

[00:09:38]>> Let's review here. You're not supposed to be in a wine dot, but in the event you are, you should probably keep your pants on.

[00:09:46]>> Some very lewd behavior.

[00:09:49]>> Most my family are dead and gone. I lost my brother. I lost my mother. My father 40 years back. My grandfather dead and gone. My aunt >> Mr. Benson.

[00:10:01]>> Mr. Benson.

[00:10:03]>> Yes.

[00:10:03]>> I can appreciate, Mr. Benson. I can appreciate that that's tough and that that's a struggle for you.

[00:10:10]However, I have said stop coming to W dot. If you want to visit the court, you can do so a different way. You don't have to keep getting arrested, right?

[00:10:22]But since you're not allowed in W dot, you can't come visit the court.

[00:10:26]>> Yes.

[00:10:27]>> However, that's not why you were arrested. You were arrested because >> sounds like he's coming in Dot.

[00:10:33]Actually, >> you're laying in the alley naked and doing some other acts.

[00:10:40]In addition, you had consumed alcohol, which doesn't bode well for you ever. Here is what this court's going to do. I'm going to make sure, sir, that you are not coming back to we dot or any other city for a little while and that you're going to be getting your treatment that you're requesting. So, this court's going to order uh find that there's not reasonable grounds to department MCL 769.5.

[00:11:07]The court's going to order 90 days jail.

[00:11:09]You are to be tethered to treatment through the Wayne County Jail.

[00:11:15]Wave fines and cost.

[00:11:26]Um he was really humping all that big.

[00:11:30]OH MY GOD.

[00:11:33]>> YEAH, that's what I was saying. He was getting after it when I pulled up.

[00:11:38]>> It's the best I can do for you, sir.

[00:11:42]>> Did I go home today?

[00:11:46]>> Sir, >> I just I just got released. Your honor, my family me. I'm not going to make it in jail.

[00:11:53]>> No, sir.

[00:11:55]>> Excuse me. and you are going back to jail and they are going to tether you to treatment. That's what's going to happen.

[00:12:07]That's what's happening.

[00:12:10]Do you understand that?

[00:12:13]>> Yes, sir.

[00:12:14]>> Okay. Very good. Have a good day.

[00:12:19]Come on.

[00:12:20]>> Now you're going to cry.

[00:12:22]Where? Where?

[00:12:26]Okay. 45 GO1 2203 F5109 state versus Bandanda. We'll show the Miss Vanda appears remotely from the jail represented here in the courtroom by attorney Jones.

[00:12:39]Miss Gartens's here for Lake County Community Corrections. Mr. Merrick is here for the prosecutor's office. So, it's further proceedings on a petition to expel. Miss Jones, how are we proceeding today? Your honor spanda is going to um admit to uh prohibited activities category 1 number 21.

[00:12:57]Prohibited activities category 2 number one. Prohibited activities category 3 number uh rule number three. Uh she's admitting to those three things uh three things on the um petition and that's what our agreement is. And then uh sentencing Is there an agreement on sentencing?

[00:13:39]>> Um, yes. I mean, she's going to do remain of her time for DLC, so that's um as is.

[00:13:48]>> Okay. and and we have an agreement for uh some particular language in the agreement regarding um a a couple programs that are available at the at the Department of Corrections.

[00:14:01]>> Which programs?

[00:14:02]>> Um the recovery while incarcerated and uh purposeful incarceration.

[00:14:15]>> Okay. So, it's essentially an agreement that she'd served the remainder of her time in DOC, but she'd be recommended for placement in those programs while she was there.

[00:14:23]>> That would be in the sentencing order.

[00:14:25]>> Yes.

[00:14:25]>> Okay. I understand. Miss Garden, you're in agreement with this?

[00:14:29]>> Yes, your honor.

[00:14:31]>> Okay. All right. Uh, Miss Band, your attorney has indicated that you're going to be making admissions to the amended petition to expel today. If that's correct, would you please raise your right hand and take the oath? Do you swear affirmative a penalty for perjury?

[00:14:44]The testimony you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

[00:14:47]>> Yes.

[00:14:48]>> Okay. Thank you. You can lower your hand.

[00:14:53]>> So I am showing that on about April 14th, 2026, you were presented with a form entitled acknowledgement of advice of rights for PTR court, which lays out your legal and constitutional rights in this proceeding. At the bottom of the page, I see a signature that purports to be yours, Alicia Banda, next to a date of April 14th, 2026. Did you in fact review and sign this waiver of rights form?

[00:15:14]>> Yes.

[00:15:15]>> Okay. And I believe you have a copy of it in front of you now as well if you need to refer to it. Uh but uh do you understand that by making admissions to the petition to expel today, you're waving the rights you have in this proceeding and we would not have a contested hearing about whether you violated the rules of community corrections. Do you understand that?

[00:15:33]>> Yes.

[00:15:34]>> Is that what you wanted to do then was forego an evidentiary hearing and resolve this case with admissions today?

[00:15:40]Yes.

[00:15:41]>> Okay. That said, I need to turn to the petition to expel that was previously filed so I can go through it with you.

[00:15:48]It's an amended petition to expel filed on April, I'm sorry, March 10th, 2026.

[00:15:53]Uh, which has a number of allegations about the rule violations by agreement of the parties. We're only going to be addressing three of those. Uh, so please listen closely as I ask you about these.

[00:16:06]The first one is prohibitive activities category 1 number 21 attempting, planning to commit or encouraging and/or assisting other participants to commit a violation of the rules. Specifically, February 28th, 2026, it was discovered that the defendant was planning on meeting a male participant of Lake County Community Corrections on her earned leave pass. Do you admit that as being true, Miss Banda?

[00:16:28]>> Yes. Moving ahead to prohibitive activities category two number one associating with any individual with felony on bond probation or parole.

[00:16:37]Specifically on March 2nd 2026 it was discovered that the defendant was in constant communication with a male participant currently under community correction supervision for a felony conviction.

[00:16:49]Do you also admit that as being true Miss Vanda?

[00:16:52]>> Yes. And lastly, prohibitive activities category 3, rule number three, sexual activity or sexual proposals of any kind with another participant. On March 2nd, 2026, it was discovered that the defendant was texting a male participant about engaging in sexual activity together. Do you also admit that as being true, Miss Vanda?

[00:17:11]>> Yes.

[00:17:12]>> Are you making these admissions voluntarily and of your own free will?

[00:17:15]>> Yes.

[00:17:16]>> All right. Based on your voluntary admissions in part to the amended petition to expel from community.

[00:17:22]No, that guy was Mitch Comein.

[00:17:26]>> Any corrections? The petition is in fact granted.

[00:17:39]>> Okay. You want to go forward to sentencing, Miss Jones?

[00:17:41]>> Yes.

[00:17:42]>> Are you waving an in-person sentencing hearing?

[00:17:44]>> We are, your honor.

[00:17:45]>> Miss Vander, do you agree to be sentenced remotely from the jail? You have the right to a hearing here in the courtroom. We would have to reset it for next week, but if you are willing, we can do the hearing remotely today.

[00:17:56]>> Yes, that's fine.

[00:17:57]>> Okay, we'll do a sentencing hearing via Zoom. Uh that said, there was a credit time letter filed by Community Corrections recently.

[00:18:08]It was filed on April 27th, yesterday's date, and it shows credit time through yesterday's date. It looks like the suspended term is 2 and a half years and there's 302 actual days served plus 101 days good time credit. Are you in agreement with the dates as outlined, Miss Jones?

[00:18:27]>> Yes, your honor.

[00:18:29]>> Okay. Uh that said, Mr. Merrick, you're in agreement as well?

[00:18:34]>> Yes, sir.

[00:18:35]>> All right. Uh that said, we can pro proceed to sentencing. Uh do you have any argument on your client's behalf or evidence, Miss Jones? just argument, your honor.

[00:18:43]>> Okay, go ahead.

[00:18:45]>> Yeah. Um, as she's in community corrections, um, you know, we've been, this is like the last stop for any, uh, in particular programs that she could be considered for. Um, I'm asking that she be u allowed to complete her time at the Department of Corrections. those programs that we asked for um recovery while incarcerated and purposeful um incarceration are uh would be ideal for her that she would be able to address her sobriety issues uh while she's there. Um I mean corrections was uh in agreement with that. um as you know she has indicated that she has had some other um she's had some issues with trying to remain uh sober uh anytime she's trying to do any type of uh program or anything like that or even while she's out. So I believe this would be an an appropriate um outcome for her.

[00:19:44]Uh she has just under um just I believe around 11 months to complete. So, I would ask that she be allowed to go to the Department of Corrections. I would ask um that and I'm sure it's going to be in the the final order, but we would want that Department of Corrections uh listed in the final order.

[00:20:04]>> Okay, understood. Thank you, Miss Garton. Anything to add?

[00:20:09]>> No, your honor.

[00:20:11]>> Okay.

[00:20:14]I will note for the record that there was an allegation of testing positive for alcohol and cocaine while over in community corrections. You agree, Miss Garden?

[00:20:29]>> Yes, your honor.

[00:20:30]>> Okay.

[00:20:33]Okay. Uh Mr. Merrick, anything you want to add on any of this?

[00:20:39]Miss Banda, anything you wanted to say in your own behalf?

[00:20:43]>> Um, you know, I'm okay.

[00:20:46]>> Okay.

[00:20:49]Yeah. I mean, I know you've been going through this.

[00:20:51]>> All I'm saying is community corrections does not sound like fun at all. If you do anything that remotely could be fun, they get all cranky about it.

[00:21:01]>> This process with us off and on uh for a while and you were sentenced previously out of this court to community corrections. So, as your attorney indicates, there's not a lot of sentencing options available for you at this point. Um, so your sentence will be the 2 and 1/2 years to be served in the Department of Corrections. However, uh, by agreement of the parties, our sentencing orders going to recommend that you be able to participate in some programming while you're at the DOC, uh, which may benefit you in a lot of ways. It sounds like you've discussed these with your attorney. U, but it is a recommendation. I know the DOC has their own criteria about whether people are eligible. Some of it may just depend on whether or not you have enough time to complete the program while you're there.

[00:21:45]Miss Jones seems to think that you do.

[00:21:47]Is it? Yes. Okay. So, we'll we'll put that in the order that you're recommended to participate in these programs. Recovery while incarcerated andor purposeful incarceration.

[00:21:58]Hopefully, you can get into those programs, get the help you need. You will receive jail time credit and good time credit as was outlined on the community corrections credit time letter from April 23rd, 2026.

[00:22:10]Okay. Uh, anything else today, Miss Jones? Miss Garton, anything else?

[00:22:15]>> No, your honor.

[00:22:16]>> Okay, we'll get the order out for you to be transferred. Uh, Miss Vanda, good luck to you.

[00:22:21]>> Thank you.

[00:22:25]>> You know what, I sure love those muffin tops.

[00:22:33]>> Case is State of Kansas versus Shawn Payne.

[00:22:37]Case number is 26CR 148. Good afternoon, Mr. Payne.

[00:22:45]>> How you doing, your honor?

[00:22:47]>> Doing well, Mr. Payne. How are you today? I'm >> good.

[00:22:51]>> Mr. You are charged by way of information on or about April 2nd, 2026 in Butler County, Kansas with domestic battery class B person misdemeanor as to a Melissa Payne. That is the only charge pending against you. Do you understand the charge?

[00:23:13]>> Yes, I do, your honor.

[00:23:14]>> You do have the right to counsel. If you cannot afford an attorney, one would be appointed to represent you. Are you currently employed?

[00:23:23]>> No, your honor. I am disabled and I'm on a fixed income.

[00:23:27]>> Based on your lack of financial wherewithal, the court does appoint council to represent you. Court appoints Darren Patterson to represent you at all stages of the proceedings. Darren Patterson is appointed to represent you at all stages of the proceedings.

[00:23:45]court schedules your next appearance date by Zoom process.

[00:23:51]Next appearance date by Zoom process.

[00:23:53]Once again, that would be before Judge Webster on Monday, July 20, 2026 at 8:00 a.m. Monday, July 20, 2026, 8 a.m. by Zoom. Monday, July 20, 2026, 8 a.m. by Zoom.

[00:24:14]And excuse me.

[00:24:17]>> Uh, I was writing that down. Sorry.

[00:24:19]>> Okay, no problem.

[00:24:21]>> Uh, court has, uh, appointed counsel, set your next date, approved your bond.

[00:24:28]Do you have any questions?

[00:24:30]>> Um, yes. Uh, if I would like, um, I I would actually like to uh request a mistrial due to a lot of the inconsistencies in my case. Um, >> uh, son, you haven't had a trial yet.

[00:24:45]>> For one, she never pressed charges, and there was several things. There was stuff that wasn't mentioned in the questioning, which I mentioned, and I do believe the officers, they actually uh took that stuff as evidence as well. Uh, >> well, that really is stupid, but you you are a perfect candidate for the Darren Patterson uh program.

[00:25:09]Good luck, Darren. You got another one.

[00:25:12]>> Um, and they were questioning one of my my children and they didn't see anything on the case. So, um, I I do have all the notes and the the text over that too as well. So, >> that may very well be a there may be a proper motion for a motion to dismiss for whatever reason. I don't know, but we have to uh set that before Judge Webster on her docket. And that will be something that you can consult with Mr. Patterson about in regard in regards to the legal basis for your motion that may be coming before the court.

[00:25:59]>> Yes, sir.

[00:26:01]>> Anything further, Mr. Baka? Judge, nothing further from the state.

[00:26:07]>> And Mr. Payne, any questions?

[00:26:10]>> Uh, no, your honor.

[00:26:12]>> There being nothing further to come before the court. Court is in recess.

[00:26:16]And Mr. Payne, you're free to go. Have a good day.

[00:26:19]>> Thank you. You, too.

[00:26:21]>> Joe, I show does call the case people versus John Near.

[00:26:29]>> All right. Warning.

[00:26:31]Zack tells me this is feel good.

[00:26:34]I I just just in case in case you you know don't want to deal with that >> on there. Okay.

[00:26:42]>> Yes.

[00:26:45]>> Yeah. Thank you.

[00:26:48]>> Guys need to move out. Let Mr. >> Assistant public defender Nick Buckage.

[00:26:55]I'm having Mr. Ner who is now approaching. Yes.

[00:26:59]All right.

[00:27:01]You just left her back there.

[00:27:03]Well, I mean, she she can walk, but the cane and stuff, it's just tough on her.

[00:27:06]>> It's tough on her. Okay, I'll let her stay back there.

[00:27:09]>> Okay.

[00:27:11]>> Huh.

[00:27:12]>> Okay, now I can see her. I'm I'm good now.

[00:27:15]>> I had to bring her in. This is going to be the last day here and all the prayers and everything like that and the stuff that you showed me getting a little extra time and stuff. I need to meet her anyway.

[00:27:23]>> Yes, sir.

[00:27:24]>> You know, I appreciate it. Thank you. Go ahead, Mr. May approach on this one briefly, your honor. Maybe a coach on this one briefly.

[00:29:10]No, there's no sound right now.

[00:29:24]Uh I had >> Yes, the honor. Thank you for the moment to have the bench conference. As uh I had had opportunity to review the PSI with my client. We have no factual assertions to the corrections and uh we did address two conditions of the recommendation that being on the anger management course and as well as the no use or possession of firearms, ammunition or weapons. At this time based upon our conversation with Miss Hawa at the bench, I'll be requesting that those two uh recommendations be stricken and we would request that the other aspects of the probation sentence be adopted.

[00:30:02]Mr. Ner, anything you want to say before I impose sentence?

[00:30:06]>> Uh, no sir, I don't. I mean, I've been really appreciative of everything you guys have done for me and opportunity to, you know, take care of my wife and everything like that, too, when was over there. I mean, it was an unfortunate incident right there. I mean, it was it was a provoked incident. I really hate it. I mean, I'm trying to take this plea because tell you financially, uh, you know, with me and the wife and her being sick and everything like that, we can't really afford to miss no more work, but I, you know, I've missed a lot of days and it's a it's draining on us. It really is draining. It's tough. I mean, we still got a long way to recovery to go. I mean, we might be another year, you know, before she can fully walk. I mean, after the little walk here to the courthouse and of course, you know, I might have to take her to lunch or something like that or whatever, you know, but doing it, but, you know, I mean, she won't be able to walk for the rest of the day, you know. So, I mean, and I'd rather take her out to lunch cuz she can't walk the rest of the day. I'm going have to do the dishes and the laundry. So, >> get get those doors open now.

[00:30:58]>> Yeah.

[00:30:58]>> If you need if you need recommendations, we can talk after court.

[00:31:01]>> Okay. All right. But, you know, I just uh I just I just need I just need to go on with my life is what I'm trying to do. You know, we got children, we got grandchildren. I mean, we got you know, I just I just need to I just need to go on my life. I've never been in trouble.

[00:31:17]I don't get in trouble.

[00:31:18]>> Huh. One of the things for me is that um and I stopped asking myself why I come into contact with certain people.

[00:31:27]>> God, >> yeah, God. And um you'll get to sort of watch them um as they kind of at least from afar as they journey through the court, right?

[00:31:45]And every time that you walked in, one thing that So the first day you were about to bite my head off cuz you wanted to go hunting and I said, "No, no, I I remember it and I'm like sir, just let me let me get through it." But you that was and I realized that was something that was important for you. we were going to time out your next appearance so that I was going to let you go hunting because I realized that was a big part of what you did. You killed someone.

[00:32:17]And you know, I I wish I wish a lot of men and particularly young men who were married could have watched you because at that point everything else you were dealing with and I could tell you love to hunt. You that's >> part of your life. Go.

[00:32:41]>> But I remember you saying to me, "It doesn't matter.

[00:32:46]I'm not going. It just >> I Yeah.

[00:32:50]>> I know.

[00:32:50]>> Was it for my life?"

[00:32:52]>> Told me because you need to take care of your wife.

[00:32:55]>> Yes, sir.

[00:32:56]>> And I said, "Well, I'm going to still allow you to be able to do it in case you need to do it." And you just you looked at me and you said, "I'm not going." But okay, judge.

[00:33:10]>> Yeah. And I I could appreciate it. I could understand it. And I realized also that you knew where your obligation was.

[00:33:24]>> Was raised in the South, sir.

[00:33:26]>> Yes, sir.

[00:33:26]>> Yes, sir.

[00:33:28]>> And that that's where you were supposed to be. That no hunting was worth it. No anything.

[00:33:35]And although you didn't want to show it, I could also tell you were worried and you were scared.

[00:33:43]>> Still am.

[00:33:44]>> Yeah, I know. I know.

[00:33:46]>> But then throughout the process, you you coming in here, you the way you conducted yourself, people react differently when they're worried about everything. And sometimes they can act in a a way that makes me have to do certain things. before I understand.

[00:34:05]>> You came in here every time you have a hat on, but you'd walk in and normally other than today, you always sat in either that back row or that back row >> walked in. You would always take off your hat and you would sit there quietly waiting for your case to be called. Yes, sir.

[00:34:29]And then I can't remember what um I think it might have been the holiday or some meal. I asked you how your wife was doing and this big grin came on your face. And ma'am, you ought to know this because apparently you got up and you cooked and that made that man the happiest person I'd ever seen. and a good he was grateful for the fact that you could do it, but he was also grateful for the meal. And that told me that told me a lot about what I need to know about him.

[00:35:06]>> Yes, sir.

[00:35:08]>> And um I've just been impressed by it.

[00:35:12]like um by you really um and I don't get a chance to say that to a lot of people but I I've been impressed by you um just the way that as I've been able to view you conducted yourself. I think you knew that my my prayers to you and your family and to your wife weren't just me saying things.

[00:35:38]I I always wake up every day looking for a blessing.

[00:35:43]>> Yes, sir.

[00:35:43]>> And the very fact of getting to see your wife, um I got my blessing today. Uh it I I don't know for this old judge sitting up here how much you know what that means to me. I Oh, sweet Jesus. What?

[00:36:07]I'd never met her before. I didn't know.

[00:36:10]I just But I knew you were a good person and I knew you loved her more than anything on this.

[00:36:18]>> Yes, sir. I do without a doubt.

[00:36:20]>> Um, you conducted yourself and ma'am, if any person can be proud of their spouse and and their husband, be proud of that, man.

[00:36:33]>> Yes.

[00:36:34]>> And I know you are.

[00:36:35]>> Her name is Jessica, too. I don't think I've ever told you her name, but that's just >> That's true. You never have.

[00:36:40]>> No. No. That's why I brought her here cuz like I said, I just I wanted you to meet her anyway. Just so you know, I wasn't pulling your leg or >> No, I I knew you weren't.

[00:36:49]>> Yes, sir.

[00:36:49]>> I knew you weren't. You That's not you.

[00:36:53]That you you are probably one of the most um honest, forthright people I get an opportunity to come into contact with. and you you've shown it to me and I don't I you know I don't I don't I get feelings about people. Um everyone that I've had with you has just been a good feeling.

[00:37:15]>> Thank you.

[00:37:16]>> And so I'll tell you Mr. Ner you're a good name.

[00:37:19]>> Thank very much. Thank you.

[00:37:24]>> Um I'm going to change this because when I look at the factual circumstances of this I The problem I'm having is I don't I don't think Mr. Ner would have been any given day he wouldn't have been in this. He probably would have found a way to get himself out of it.

[00:37:46]>> I I tried to leave.

[00:37:48]>> I tried to leave. Didn't >> So what I'm going to do is this and so we can get through this um I'm going to the I'm going to place him on a twomon I'm not going to go six months.

[00:38:17]>> I don't need it. Two months prosecuted bird sentence.

[00:38:21]>> Um $555 fines and cost. $180 probation oversight fees. I'm waving all of that except the minimum $125.

[00:38:36]That's all I want from you. I don't want the rest. You use that to take your wife today.

[00:38:44]Take her out the >> Yeah. There you go. Use it for that.

[00:38:48]>> Yes, sir. I >> sir, >> I don't want it. Simple as that.

[00:38:53]>> Very appreciated, Tommy. Very appreciate it. No use of alcohol, recreational marijuana, or any illegal substance.

[00:38:58]You'll be subject to random testing as requested by probation. I would agree with your attorney that this case doesn't call for anger management class, and I'm not going to order it. I don't think he needs it at all. I will order no contact with the alleged victim in this case directly or indirectly. No assault, threatening, or intimidating behavior. Um, also on this case, and normally I would order no possession of any weapons, firearms, ammunition. I know he is a hunter. I know that.

[00:39:26]>> Well, I mean, we're good now. It's fishing season now.

[00:39:28]>> Okay. Well, he can fish.

[00:39:31]Yes, sir.

[00:39:32]>> But that hunting season will come back around >> off of this. So, I'm not going to worry about it. I'm not going to order any on his firearms, weapons, or other ammunition. I'll set a review hearing that's to be held >> at 9:00 a.m.

[00:39:51]>> 9:00 a.m. June 10th, 2026 at 9:00 a.m.

[00:39:56]>> and I'll order 93 days in jail suspended and just wish you and your wife all the best. Get her to lunch.

[00:40:03]>> Thank you very much.

[00:40:05]>> I wish you the best and I hope you don't have to experience some of the stuff I had to do over the last few months with my wife. You know, it's it's tough hurt.

[00:40:12]It's hurt. It hurt. I got you.

[00:40:16]>> Pray to the Lord every day, you know.

[00:40:18]Hey, take me. Leave her alone, you know.

[00:40:19]But I mean, >> I guess he going to save the both of us now, you know. So, hope so. I hope so.

[00:40:25]>> Thank you, Ron. I appreciate everything.

[00:40:27]>> Welcome. You guys take care of each other.

[00:40:30]>> You sir, take care.

[00:40:31]>> Thank you. Um, and keep him out of trouble. Okay.

[00:40:36]>> I know.

[00:40:44]Let us never speak of this again.

[00:40:49]The township of Ipsilante versus Kenya Casto Tez.

[00:41:14]And sorry, this is the interpreter.

[00:41:16]Could you repeat after the case number for interpreter, please, your honor?

[00:41:20]>> The case numbers. It was quatro unoso A and then B. There's no oo in there.

[00:41:28]>> Sorry about that. Thank you for that clarification. It just phonetically it hurt like that. Sorry about that. A and B. Okay.

[00:41:41]>> All right. Uh, and it was Ipsilante Township versus Kenya Cast.

[00:41:49]>> Oh, this is excruciating. This is terrible.

[00:41:55]>> Excellente township and contra.

[00:41:59]Sorry. Could you Sorry, this is interpreter. I apologize. Could you repeat just the name for for your honor?

[00:42:04]I apologize uh for the interpreter of the defendant.

[00:42:09]>> Just a moment.

[00:42:10]>> Okay.

[00:42:11]>> Can I have you state your name for the record, please?

[00:42:21]>> Castro.

[00:42:24]>> Right. Thank you. Today is the date set for an arraignment in the matter ending in 415B.

[00:42:59]This was a citation from March 23rd of 2026 for operating a motor vehicle on homes at or near Peabody with no license.

[00:43:17]Sorry, this is the interpreter. I apologize. Could you just repeat for the interpreter um the charges in March 3rd, 2026?

[00:43:32]>> March 23rd, 2026.

[00:43:36]>> Thank you very much for that clarification.

[00:43:41]And could you repeat your honor? Sorry.

[00:43:42]Uh for the interpreter, the charges operating with no license.

[00:43:46]>> Operating a motor vehicle on homes at or near Peabody without a license.

[00:43:55]>> Oh, this is excruciating.

[00:43:58]>> Thank you very much for the clarification.

[00:44:02]And >> I I have had a lot of depositions and and testimony in court with interpreters. I've never dealt with anything like this.

[00:44:29]Rodantesia.

[00:44:32]>> It's correct.

[00:44:33]>> That's right.

[00:44:37]>> This is a misdemeanor.

[00:44:40]This is a misdemeanor with a maximum potential penalty of up to 90 days in jail, a $100 fine, plus court costs for both. Do you understand the charge and the potential penalty?

[00:45:06]Maxim potential.

[00:45:35]Uh the estia >> see >> yes >> how much money did you say >> the this is interpreter? Yeah, I'm >> $1,000 fine.

[00:45:59]>> That is not what I said. What I said was 100T.

[00:46:05]Not no me.

[00:46:08]>> Oh, this is the interpreter. I apologize about that. Um, the interpreter would like to correct the record there.

[00:46:23]I agree.

[00:46:31]Just a minute, please. Unmental.

[00:46:44]>> I'm muted. Thank you. All right. So, thank you. I am going to excuse you.

[00:46:53]Oh, that was awkward.

[00:47:00]I mean, he speaks Spanish and he can speak English, but he couldn't he couldn't do it's hard. It's harder than it looks. It's a lot harder. It's beyond being bilingual. You got to pay attention and know what you're doing.

[00:47:13]It's not an easy job.

[00:47:24]calling. Thank you for calling Language Line Solutions. My name is Carmen. ID number 204643, Spanish interpreter.

[00:47:35]>> Okay, thank you. So, we're kind of in the middle of a hearing because the uh last interpreter needed more help than the court could provide. Can you raise your right hand, please?

[00:47:46]>> Yes, your honor. Do you swear and affirm that you will translate to the best of your ability from English into Spanish and from Spanish into English in these proceedings today? I swear to the best of my ability.

[00:47:58]>> Thank you. All right. So, we have already called the case. We have already started discussing the case. I was about to advise the defendant of her rights.

[00:48:06]So, Miss Castoz, you have the following basic rights.

[00:48:19]You have the right to remain silent as anything that you say out loud or in writing can be used against you in court.

[00:48:40]If that part doesn't apply to you, then don't worry about it.

[00:48:50]>> Do you have any questions about your rights?

[00:48:58]>> No, your honor.

[00:48:59]>> Thank you.

[00:49:00]>> Gracias.

[00:49:03]As I said, the the first charge here was the misdemeanor charge. You were also cited uh as part of the same citation for speeding 1 to 5 over. That is a civil infraction. There are no criminal penalties associated with that.

[00:49:21]>> Your honor, uh the interpreter would like to clarify one to five over the speed limit.

[00:49:26]>> Yes. One to five over the speed limit.

[00:49:28]Yes.

[00:49:29]>> Thank you.

[00:49:38]That's correct.

[00:49:40]>> That's correct.

[00:49:42]>> Are you working on getting your driver's license?

[00:49:56]Not at the moment.

[00:49:58]No.

[00:50:02]a >> and I'm also not driving.

[00:50:06]>> All right. Thank you. Gracias. So, I will set you for a pre-trial conference date that will be June 23rd and that will be at 9 in the morning and it will be back here in person in front of me. Attorney White, did you have anything that you wanted to add?

[00:50:30]>> Uh, >> assistant public defender Sandra White on behalf of Miss Castro Terius.

[00:50:36]>> Your honor, the interpreter request a repetition, please.

[00:50:41]>> Assistant public defender Sandra White on behalf of my client.

[00:50:49]Uh offici to the charge we stand mute.

[00:51:04]>> We ask for a PR bond.

[00:51:08]>> Your honor, the interpreter request.

[00:51:11]>> We ask for personal recgnissance bond.

[00:51:15]>> Thank you.

[00:51:31]the court will grant a personal recgnissance bond at this time.

[00:51:44]So what that means is you are promising to show up for court. If you fail to appear for court, a bench warrant may issue for your arrest. Do you have any question?

[00:51:59]>> And we will have a notice for you with your next court date on it and then you will be free to leave.

[00:52:05]>> Yes. Thank you.

[00:52:06]>> Thank you.

[00:52:07]>> Yes. Thank you.

[00:52:08]>> Gracia.

[00:52:10]>> Yes. And you're free to sign out. Thank you.

[00:52:14]>> Your honor, is that for the interpreter?

[00:52:16]>> Yes, you are free to sign out. Thank you.

[00:52:18]>> Thank you for using our services. You have a good day. Byebye.

[00:52:23]>> Oh my god.

[00:52:25]>> We are on the record in BU 2025 TR168, State of Kansas versus Maestro Rodriguez Saunders Jr.

[00:52:36]Jared rear for the state. Defendant Saunders appears in person and proay.

[00:52:44]We had a first appearance April 30th of the year 2025.

[00:52:49]Defendant failed to appear and it it's taken us a year to get you back here, Mr. Saunders.

[00:52:55]What's taken so long to get you back here? Uh with that what happened was uh I had my card date but uh when I got pulled over we have to like text and call the number or whatever and then you get your card your zoom information and I did that but you never sent it over.

[00:53:13]So the day before my court date I called and I said hey uh cuz I went to court like once or twice before so I understand how it works. So I was like the I know I had cut the next day but I still didn't get the information. So, I called and I said, "Hey, uh, I my court day is tomorrow and I still didn't get the information. Uh, what is that about?" And she said, "Sometimes the system does that." And she said, "You should have it by tonight or by the morning time before your court date."

[00:53:38]So, I said, "Okay." And right now, I'm in school. So, I had a morning class that day. So, I went to class and I said, "When I get out of class, I will call and see because I uh I still didn't get it in the morning time." So after class, I called back and I was like, "Hey, I talked yesterday to a lady. Uh, would you be any chance to be able to look up and see when my court date is because I mean what time it is?" So I know it's today, but I never got it.

[00:54:03]>> Have you ever had a failure to appear?

[00:54:08]>> Possibly to my email and then she searched up my name and she was like, "You had caught this morning at 9:00, so you already missed it." So I was like, "What do I do now?" because it looks like I guess miscaught. But I did what I needed to do. But y'all didn't do what y'all needed to do. So I didn't get a name or anything. I didn't thought it was going to be that big of a deal. But like she had like the worst attitude. And then she sent me to this number to like to peeka. She gave me a number to call in to Pika. And I call her that number for probably like two weeks straight. And like it's always busy. It never answers.

[00:54:41]No one answers. And honestly after some time I just kind of forgot about it honestly.

[00:54:48]All right. So, it wasn't your fault that you failed to appear. It was my clerk's fault. It was my fault. And it was the Department of Revenue and Licensing Division in Topeka that you missed court. Is that Did I just understand you correctly?

[00:55:03]>> Uh, with the Zoom information. Yes, ma'am. I never received the the Zoom information, but I called like I was supposed to.

[00:55:09]>> You know, you can always come to the courthouse. You don't have to appear by Zoom.

[00:55:13]>> Yeah, but I don't I don't understand how that works. I'm not from here. I don't I just go to school here. I don't understand.

[00:55:19]>> Here's the thing, sir. If you're going to come to Kansas and you're going to disregard their laws and violate their laws because you didn't take the time to learn our driving laws, which are compacted with the other states, by the way, then you better make sure you figure out the consequences if you're not going to follow our laws.

[00:55:37]>> Yes, sir.

[00:55:37]>> When you were told when you were here a No, you failed to appear. You've never been here before.

[00:55:43]>> No.

[00:55:44]I I am not accepting that you that that you did your part and that the clerk failed their part and the court failed its part, Department of Revenue failed their part. Why don't you just throw in Jared, the county attorney, and blame him, too, >> if you're just blaming everybody but yourself. All right, I'm going to give you another chance at this, even though it took you a year >> to get in here since you Why Why did you decide to show up today since you haven't for the last four >> or for the last year? Did you get arrested?

[00:56:15]>> I said, "Why?"

[00:56:15]>> Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. I did. Yes, ma'am.

[00:56:18]>> All right. So, you didn't appear voluntarily. You only appeared because you got picked up on the bench warrant of 2500 that was issued for your failure to appear the day you failed to appear.

[00:56:29]Okay. Well, let's start over. You're the one that's in in this court. You >> I didn't go out looking for you. None of these people you're blaming went out looking for you. I don't know what brings you here other than the allegations. and we'll find out if it's true that you violated the law or not.

[00:56:44]>> Yes, sir.

[00:56:45]>> At this time, you better show up when you're told to show up and do what you're told to do or you could end up getting locked up in jail.

[00:56:53]>> Are you are in Kansas right now, though, right?

[00:56:56]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:56:57]>> Your warrant told you and your bond told you to appear in person, right?

[00:57:01]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:57:02]>> That way, we don't have to worry about zoom codes and the clerk not getting you your zoom code. By the way, I do have a note from the clerk that said she could not send you Zoom codes because she did not have a valid email for you. So, that's that's why the clerk didn't send you those. Although, if you didn't get them, I usually say call a few days before if you don't get your Zoom codes.

[00:57:22]>> Yes, sir.

[00:57:23]>> All right. So, Mr. Saunders, let's look at your charges since it's been a while since we have since you and I have.

[00:57:30]>> And your honor, >> Mr. McGear >> is the forgive my interjection but is the court also on the record in 25 TR 1034.

[00:57:38]>> I was not but I see that we should be.

[00:57:40]You also are here on BU 20225 TR 1034 as well as BU 2025 TR168 each caption state of Kansas versus Maestro Rodri Saunders Jr. Again, Jared Regier in both cases for the state and the defendant prosay in both cases.

[00:58:02]I didn't even catch that he had a second one there. Thank you, Mr. Reggie. Did you know you had a second one, Mr. Saunders?

[00:58:09]>> Uh, yeah. Yes, ma'am. I got I think I got two papers. Yes, ma'am.

[00:58:30]On that other case, you were supposed to be August 20, August 1st to 25, but for some reason the county attorney gave you a break and took it off the docket rather than giving you a war uh another warrant.

[00:58:49]That's why you didn't blame Mr. Regier.

[00:58:51]His office gave you a pass on one of these.

[00:58:57]Okay, so let's be clear. Like I said, we'll start over here. BU 2025 TR168 says in count one, you operate in a motor vehicle without a valid license in Butler County on August 19th of 2024.

[00:59:14]This is a class B misdemeanor. If convicted, your fine could be up to $1,000. Your sentence could be up to six months. On count two, you're accused of not try having any liability insurance or not being able to provide proof of it uh on that day as well. August 19th to 24, another be misdemeanor. This charge though has a minimum fine of $300 up to a,000 and a possible 6mon sentence.

[00:59:42]Now then, let's look back at that other case again. That 168 that one charges the same same type of charges.

[00:59:58]Uh operating motor vehicle without a license, no insurance August 19th of the year 2024.

[01:00:14]But then the 2025 TR1034 charges you with driving while suspended January 29th of the year 2025.

[01:00:24]A B misdemeanor. If you have no prior convictions for driving while suspended, it's a B misdemeanor.

[01:00:31]Uh, as I said, up to $1,000 fine and six months in jail. If you have a prior conviction for a driving while suspended, those misdemeanors go up to A's, which means up to a year in the county jail and a $2,500 fine. But so far, they're each charged as B misdemeanors. And I know why that is.

[01:00:52]Uh so you do have the right to an attorney in one or both of these cases.

[01:00:58]You can either hire an attorney if you cannot afford to hire an attorney. You can apply for a courtappointed and see if you qualify for courtapp appointed.

[01:01:06]You can wave your right to an attorney and represent yourself.

[01:01:11]Whether you represent yourself or hire an attorney, the county attorney does have the diversion programs. You may or may not qualify. You'd have to go online, as I've been saying all morning, and see if you qualify and apply if you do, and then do what the contract that you make with them tells you to do, and they would dismiss the charges. At this time, do you intend to hire an attorney, apply for courtapp appointed, or wave attorney and represent yourself? Sir, >> uh, represent myself.

[01:01:40]>> You understand you can hire an attorney, and if you cannot afford to hire an attorney, you can apply qual if you qualify, you can have a court appointed.

[01:01:49]>> Yes, sir.

[01:01:50]>> But you don't want an attorney in either one of these cases.

[01:01:54]on >> again. You're looking at potential jail time up to six months on each count.

[01:02:03]>> Oh, okay. You can hire me on that.

[01:02:08]>> I'm sorry. I'm not understanding you.

[01:02:10]>> I say if I I'll hire attorney so I could get more understanding on >> Okay. You can't afford to hire?

[01:02:21]>> No, I can't afford it. No more.

[01:02:22]>> You cannot. So, do you want to apply for courtapp appointed?

[01:02:26]>> Yes, ma'am.

[01:02:27]>> All right. You told me something about it. At one point, at least you are a student. Are you still a student?

[01:02:31]>> Yes, ma'am.

[01:02:33]>> Where do you go to school?

[01:02:34]>> Uh, Butler Community College.

[01:02:37]>> All right. So, you're a college student.

[01:02:39]What year are you in?

[01:02:41]>> I'm in my junior year. I mean, no, my sophomore year.

[01:02:45]>> Say that again, please.

[01:02:47]>> My sophomore year.

[01:02:48]>> You're in your sophomore year. Okay.

[01:02:51]Do you have any income? A paying job?

[01:02:54]>> No, no.

[01:02:57]>> Okay. Are you here on scholarships then and grants?

[01:03:00]>> Not scholarship, but I'm here on a student visa.

[01:03:04]>> Okay. Who's paying for your education?

[01:03:07]>> My parents back home.

[01:03:09]>> Okay. And where's back home?

[01:03:11]>> The Bahamas.

[01:03:12]>> Bahamas. It's a little bit different than That's a little bit different than Kansas, please.

[01:03:19]>> All right.

[01:03:20]So without any income other than your parents paying for your education, you would qualify for courtappointed attorney and I'll appoint attorney Darren Patterson.

[01:03:34]He has a contract willing to take these types of cases and has been doing it for quite some time, very experienced.

[01:03:40]You'll need to walk across the street to his office and give him your contact information and your next court date. on both these cases. He's a he's appointed on both.

[01:03:51]Jenna, and remind me, we're putting these on Patterson's docket. What was that date again?

[01:03:56]>> Uh July 20th.

[01:03:58]>> You'll need to be back here at July 20th at 8 a.m. on both cases with your attorney, Mr. Patterson. Now, Mr. Patterson will have your Zoom code.

[01:04:08]>> Yes, sir.

[01:04:09]>> So, no more of this excuse about what the clerk didn't give to me or this or that. From now on, this is your responsibility.

[01:04:18]Your responsibility to walk across the street and talk to your attorney and to be available to your attorney so he can help you with these charges. Your responsibility to make sure you get the Zoom codes and you get to court July 20th at 8:00 a.m. I've got you down by Zoom, but I'm thinking maybe you ought to just come in person so we don't have the Zoom code problem again. I'm going to make that the order that you appear in person.

[01:04:43]I've seen people walk from the college dorms to get here. It's not a walk I'd be looking forward to, but it's not the end of the world either. I could do it if I had to, believe it or not. All right. So, I'm going to continue the bonds you've already made with the conditions that you go across the street today to Mr. Patterson, give him what information he needs, and that you reappear July 20th at 8:00 a.m.

[01:05:08]Uh, Mr. is there anything further I need to take up? Yes, your honor. If the court is prepared to um hear an oral motion by the state.

[01:05:19]>> Go ahead, please.

[01:05:21]>> Your honor, if the court is continuing the bonds in both of these cases, the state is tending oral motion to add an additional condition of bond that this defendant be subject to pre-trial court services monitoring. The state does not make this recommendation lightly.

[01:05:34]However, pursuant the informations in both these cases, these are cases where um that appear to involve significant offenses with with alleged occurrence states at close proximity August 19, 2024 and January 29th of 2025. Additionally, it is the state's information is that the this is defended with two other cases in other jurisdictions that are currently pending. one in Lincoln County, 25 TR37 with an alleged occurrence date in in uh February of 2025 with at least one prior failure to appear in March of 2025.

[01:06:12]Additionally, a Cedric County case 26 TR2701 involving three alleged occurrences including no proof of insurance and driving while suspended. While the state does recognize that these are mere allegations at this point, the alleged occurrence dates appear to be approximately two to three months prior to today's date. So the state does respectfully submit that is um relevant in so far as setting appropriate bonds such subject to such conditions as the court may deem appropriate.

[01:06:46]You just told me that his record suggests he's been driving without license and insurance and other traffic matters since at least January 2925.

[01:06:58]That's what the record suggests. He's been doing that all across the state of Kansas.

[01:07:02]>> Your honor, the um the 2025 case 25 TR 168 does appear to allege occurrence states of August of 2024 in this in in the first case. in the subsequent case 25 TR 1034 both on the docket today alleged in the current state of January 29th 2025. The Lincoln County case appears to allege a non-driver's license um violation from February of 2025. The Cedric County case appears to allege multiple accounts including no proof of insurance and drag suspended in February of 2026.

[01:07:40]Well, I don't know if the Bahamas have driving laws, but we certainly do in Kansas and many other United States.

[01:07:51]And those driver's licenses require that you know how to safely drive.

[01:07:58]I don't know if you ever took a driver's education course or if you studied a driving manual or not. Talk to your attorney, Mr. Patterson, about that.

[01:08:06]Don't answer me today.

[01:08:09]But as a condition of your born, don't you dare be behind the wheel of a moving car.

[01:08:17]Because unless you've taken a driver's education course and really studied the manual for driving, you may not even know what the street signs tell you to do or not do. And that puts the public at serious risk of jeopardy if you would hit them. And if you don't have insurance, you can't even compensate their medical bills, god forbid, they don't die in the wrecks.

[01:08:43]Now, I don't know if these are true.

[01:08:45]These may all just be allegations. You may have a license and you or you may not even be driving. We'll find that out. But I feel like a little bit of duty to inform you that you are as conditions of bond not to be driving unless you've got a valid license and your automobile is working properly and legally in all respects.

[01:09:06]If you are found driving again, it could be a violation of your bond. And that's in any county in the in the United in the state of Kansas or state in the United States. But you better get across the street and talk to Mr. Patterson before I found out find out any other allegations that I may have to act on today.

[01:09:27]Yes, sir. And think cautiously before you say anything.

[01:09:31]>> Yes, ma'am. Uh those stuff that he was talking about. I mean, >> all right. I'm going stop you right there. I don't we Mr. Patterson will want to advise you before you say any more about that.

[01:09:43]>> That against you. I understand that you have not been convicted, but anything you say could end up being used against you in trial and Mr. Patterson may not want you to jeopardize yourself or incriminate yourself like that. But if you insist on talking, I'm not going to stop you.

[01:10:00]>> Okay. I won't say anything about that.

[01:10:02]But uh one thing that you said was that I walk from the dorms. I live in Witchah. I go to the Andover campus.

[01:10:10]So is the uh and is >> bondsman. Okay. Do you have a bondsman?

[01:10:17]>> Yeah. Yes, ma'am.

[01:10:18]>> Why don't you call your bondsman and tell him you need a ride? He may prefer to give you a ride than to lose the bond because you failed to appear.

[01:10:25]>> Yes, ma'am.

[01:10:27]>> Mr. Patterson about Yes, Mr. McGee.

[01:10:30]>> The courts the states oral motion for pre-trial court services monitoring as an additional condition of bond in both these matters.

[01:10:37]>> I am going to order that. I'm like you, Mr. Recir. I don't take that lightly because court services is so busy with so many other tasks for the court. But I'm going to order pre-trial court service supervised bond monitoring. Meaning before you leave the courthouse, you need to walk down a couple feet down the hallway to court services and tell them you're there for bond monitoring. I know they don't like that and I understand why they don't like it and none of us like it. But you need somebody to keep reminding you about your bond and your obligations more than what you've been doing. So I'm going to order that you keep in touch with them that they know where you are and that that you keep in touch with the court by coming to court.

[01:11:22]>> All right. So stop by for bond monitoring and then go over to Mr. Patterson's office. Keep your bondsman informed of where you are and but he make sure you get to court. Who remind me your bondsman is I can look a second chance bail bonds. I don't know who the who the bonds a bonding agents are in that. But like I said, I suspect they'd rather get you a ride to court than lose $1,000.

[01:11:51]And that's just on the one case. That doesn't include the bond on the other case.

[01:11:55]>> He really needs to get bounced. I mean, these aren't big charges, but he just he his life is set up so he has to drive.

[01:12:03]He he just doesn't care. He has no respect for it. He's not going to follow the law. It's clear. He just he just needs to be kicked out of the country.

[01:12:13]Simple as that.

[01:12:16]Make sure that the court services know there are supervising bond in both your cases, 2025 TR 1034 and 2025 TR1 168. And that your next court date is July 20th. I'm ordering that you be here at 8:00 a.m. in person, not by Zoom.

[01:12:40]>> Okay. Thank you.

[01:12:42]>> You're welcome. You're welcome. You're excused from today's hearing.

[01:12:57]>> So, the judge is going to want you to sign this. Okay.

[01:13:00]>> Absolutely.

[01:13:02]>> Want to make a quick record.

[01:13:04]>> All right. I I just got this one. Zach's description intrigued me >> about signing it before we do.

[01:13:10]>> All right. You're This is Mr. Uh Jarvis Ray.

[01:13:14]>> All right, let's go on the record in 26 CR1067 people versus Jarvis Ray. Entries of appearance on behalf of the people.

[01:13:22]>> Dakota Thompson on behalf of Mr. Ray who appears in person and in custody today.

[01:13:26]>> Good morning, Mr. Ray.

[01:13:27]>> How are you?

[01:13:28]>> I'm well, thank you. We're scheduled this morning for hearing on adisement.

[01:13:31]This is Mr. Ray's first appearance before the court. Uh does Mr. Ray wave formal reading and adisement as to rule five?

[01:13:36]>> Yes, sir.

[01:13:37]>> Any prior military service?

[01:13:38]>> None that I'm aware of.

[01:13:40]>> All right. And do we have a signed mandatory protection order?

[01:13:42]>> I need to make a record for that. Um, judge, I I >> I know this is going to upset you. I apologize.

[01:13:49]>> Talk about >> I need to make a record about mental health. Um, some of the information that was provided has me concerned about the um veracity of any signature with respect to understanding. We are going to sign it. I'm going to approach with it. Um, Mr. Ray wants to do that. uh he wants to proceed forward and um he also wants me to make sure the court is aware um that he is a supreme executive of the state of Colorado and I'm making those records at his request and to honor their conversation. Understood. So at this point sign right there and I'll hand that to the judge.

[01:14:24]>> Ooh la la. He's the supreme executive of the state of Colorado.

[01:14:29]>> Thank you sir.

[01:14:30]>> Thank you sir.

[01:14:33]Apparently, you get an orange uniform for that.

[01:14:36]>> And is there any uh record from the people or BRA record regarding the protection order?

[01:14:40]>> Thank you.

[01:14:42]>> All right, Mr. Ray, I'm going to talk to you about this mandatory protection order that will enter in your case this morning. I'm holding the order up now.

[01:14:48]On the back side here, there's a signature. Is that yours?

[01:14:51]>> Yes, it is.

[01:14:52]>> All right. This order will name you as the restrained person. It will name Alice Prize as the protected person. The order does not involve a crime of domestic violence, but it does involve a victim's rights act offense. And the order will contain the following terms.

[01:15:03]First, that you shall not harass, molest, intimidate, retaliate against, or tamper with any witness to or victim of the acts that you are accused of committing. Second, you will vacate the home of the victims and witnesses and stay away from any location they are likely to be found. And third, you will not contact or have direct or indirect communication with the victims or witnesses. Finally, you will be restrained from the location of Walmart at 10900 East Brierwood A in Centennial, Colorado. Sir, do you understand each of the terms of that order?

[01:15:35]>> All right. Please comply with the order while it's in place. If you fail to do so, you may be held in consent of court or charged with a new crime, which could be a misdemeanor or a felony. Argument has to bond, please.

[01:15:45]Judge, I am going to ask for a PR bond.

[01:15:48]Um, given the conversation I've had with him, the issue that led to his arrest, I mean, obviously there was a delay in time from the April 19th date of offense that's actually referenced here. Another call led to contact. Um, also included Walmart. Um, Mr. Ray has been in Colorado for uh, six years.

[01:16:15]um has been moving around. At this time, the address we can give for his uh residence would be to Denver Rescue Mission. There are another there are another number of locations that Mr. Ray has informed me are his and do belong to him.

[01:16:32]Can't provide those addresses to the court at this point. Um and I'll reference back to my original record. Um uh in terms of work uh again I'll reference back to my original record um which for me to acknowledge his role as the supreme executive/governor of the state with respect to employment. Um in terms of family connections there are not any to speak of at the moment that um he would be able to rely on. However this is a low-level offense at the end of the day. This is functionally shoplifting. um he definitely disputes having shoved Miss Prize um with respect to this allegation and I will also inform the board that I did look up on Tracer active candidates and it does lift list Mr. Ray as such with respect to the governorship.

[01:17:28]um so as to substantiate what he and I were discussing.

[01:17:34]>> All right.

[01:17:34]>> Given his situation, I'm asking for a PR bond.

[01:17:36]>> All right. Thank you. People's position, please. Your honor, the people are requesting a schedule bond. Um I greatly appreciate um defense council's record.

[01:17:44]Um however, for my review of the pre-trial report. Um the defendant's failure to appear history is extensive.

[01:17:50]His criminal history is not short uh with nine total convictions. Um I I recognize that a number of the pending matters do appear to be crimes of um poverty, trespass, shoplifting, etc. But just given the sheer number and the fact that almost all of them have a failure to appear warrant for the defendants's arrest, we have to request a monetary bond. We're requesting schedule. Thank you.

[01:18:16]All right. The court has considered the statements of council. The court's own file in a pre-trial bond report in this case. I'll note that the allegations involve robbery from a Walmart and Mr. Mr. Ray is accused of assaulting one of the employees on his way out the door uh with a stolen item. The bond report rates Mr. Ray at a negative five high risk. It notes uh I'm counting 11 open cases at the moment apart from the one he appears on this morning. Most of those do appear to be lower level misdemeanor and municipal cases. Um but there are 11 of them nevertheless.

[01:18:47]the criminal history uh the court agrees appears to be related mostly to um poverty related crimes and uh so the court with respect to the criminal history doesn't have terribly high concerns. It's worth noting that the allegations in this case are robbery and so the court does have uh some concerns with respect to the allegations in this case. The failure to appear history is a primary concern to the court. Um I'm counting 27 failures to appear since last year in 2025.

[01:19:15]And so for the court to conclude uh that Mr. Ray will appear on this case, uh I'd have to do some stretching, frankly. Um and so the court uh has to find under these circumstances that some monetary condition bond is appropriate. Uh >> I I think 27 failures to appear is is developing a pattern.

[01:19:32]>> Given the limited means, the court will find that downward departure from the guideline amount is appropriate. I'll set bond in the amount of $10,000 cash assurity. Standard terms and conditions will require no leaving the state without prior permission of the court, a waiver of extradition, and a pre-trial mental health screen.

[01:19:47]>> Find out and uh we'll set the case for filing of charges. The court will keep an eye out for a potential motion under seal from May 4th, 9:00 a.m. division 302.

[01:20:01]>> When I became governor, you became invalid.

[01:20:04]>> All right, Mr. Ray, have a good day, sir. You know that Hey guys, she needs to have she needs to have him sign something and I'm going to sit beside him >> that the division 302 morning docket is concluded. Thank you everyone. Have a good afternoon. Be off the record.

[01:20:32]>> Lawrence County District Court is now in session this April 29, 2026. Time is now 12:47 p.m. My name is Nick Thornton. I'm a District Court judge for the Southeast Judicial District, which includes Barnes County. We're conducting this hearing by reliable electronic means. Based on the court's other schedule, I'm sitting in the Richland County Courthouse, but this is a Barnes County matter. The Barnes County courtroom is open to the public.

[01:20:58]The building is open to the public. We are live streaming today's event on the Southeast Judicial District's live stream YouTube channel. These are open and public proceedings. matter on the court's docket was a status conf.

[01:21:09]>> I I was curious is Arapaho County where a basin is >> I like me some a basin >> conference in state of North Dakota versus Richard William Eder 0225 CR220.

[01:21:24]Uh this status conference was set by the court or requested by the the court and it has nothing to do with the parties but um it does have something to do with um court staff. So I wanted to call the status conference. The file is again 022025 CR220.

[01:21:46]Miss Duffy appears on behalf of the state.

[01:21:50]Mr. Murphy appears on behalf of the defendant. Mr. Ed appears a reliable electronic means from >> Summit County has got all sorts of good places.

[01:22:00]>> The Barnes County Correctional Center situation is this. So the court has an obligation to inform the parties of any matters that might affect a motion for disqualification.

[01:22:18]Miss Stum is my judicial support specialist or court recorder.

[01:22:24]Um, Nistrom is in the process of some personal transitions and during those personal transitions, she has entered into a relationship that at this point is not something I can describe as a casual relationship with Barnes County Sheriff's Deputy Pat Sand.

[01:22:53]Because of that, the court has a duty to inform you uh because it might be relevant to a motion to disqualify me to sit.

[01:23:06]>> Ma'am, are you a [ __ ] over the trial that my court recorder is in a oh what I would call a dating relationship that over the last month or so has become more serious and again I can't describe as casual. Um but nevertheless that type of relationship is not a personal relationship with me. Uh, nevertheless, Miss Stum is subject to the same rules that I am under the code of judicial conduct and I am informing the parties of that relationship because Mr. Sand is identified as a potential witness in this.

[01:23:51]>> Oh, good lord.

[01:23:53]>> Case. Um, which is why Miss Strom indicated that another court recorder. Uh, in that case, staff attorney Tracy Reams would be recording the trial.

[01:24:06]Um, obviously, uh, a jury would make the decision on whether or not Mr. Eder is factually guilty or not guilty at the trial.

[01:24:21]>> I don't believe the relationship is inappropriate. I'm simply advising you of it. It wasn't a personal conflict with me. I don't see it as being a disqualifying type of situation.

[01:24:30]Nevertheless, the most recent ABA ethics opinion and my interpretation of the Northakota rules of professional conduct require me to disclose to the parties any ma any matter that might be material and might be relevant to a party's motion for disqualification.

[01:24:54]And so on the record, I'm providing you with that notice.

[01:24:58]Uh, Miss Duffy, Mr. Jackson, if Mr. Jackson is connected, this might affect how you intend to call witnesses. Mr. Murphy, in this case, it might affect how you intend to cross-examine Mr. Sand if he is in fact called as a witness.

[01:25:13]Um, obviously, I I don't ask my court recorder about her personal life or her interpersonal relationships. That's typically not an appropriate topic for a supervisor and a staff person, but in this case, it came to light here recently, and it's something that I want the parties to be aware of. So, if we need to do something with this trial, we do it sooner rather than later.

[01:25:44]Miss Duffy, do you have any questions about the court's disclosure?

[01:25:52]Okay, we're having fun, but there's really nothing wrong here. This is like typical.

[01:25:58]The disclosure is appropriate. You can do whatever you want to do, but it's the there's there's nothing bad. It just triggers the need to disclose it.

[01:26:08]>> I guess I don't have any questions. Um, just for the court's information, Sheriff Randy Mclofflin is in my office with me. he was going to connect to Zoom, but that uh super techy to be to be frank. So anyway, he couldn't get it connected. He's sitting here just so he's aware of what the court is disclosing as well. Uh I think perhaps Mr. Murphy and I need to have a conversation. That's not part of the record. But when this is done, uh and see what he wants to do. Um, I don't have concerns about the court um being swayed one way or the other based on uh MTORM removing herself and not recording. Uh, but I don't know what Mr. Murphy thinks and I certainly won't speak for him. So, uh, I think there obviously we'll talk about this uh, not on the record, but um, I will leave that to Mr. Murphy if he wants to make a motion to disqualify the court.

[01:27:04]>> And I wasn't going to entertain that. I anticipated that the parties would have an opportunity to think about it.

[01:27:10]Obviously, Mr. Murphy is going to want to talk to Mr. Eder about it and you can certainly file a motion if you believe it's appropriate. Um, but my duty is to disclose it. I don't I'm not disqualifying myself or recusing on the matter in light of the the way that we've handled the conflict once it developed. Um, and and I'm simply informing the parties. It wasn't intended for you to make a decision right now or discuss it on the record. I was merely disclosing it to you for your information. So, you can do with it as you wish. Uh, but now it's disclosed and moving forward, Miss Duffy, in cases where Mr. Sand is identified as a potential witness. Um, Mr. Murphy, it isn't on all of my cases. So, this is going to have to be something that's disclosed moving forward if that relationship continues um with other defense council. So, if you want to disclose it, that's fine. If not, I have a duty to disclose it uh with other defense council when it potentially becomes an issue.

[01:28:17]Nevertheless, um for this case, it it involves Mr. Murphy, and I was simply asking, do you have any questions about the court's disclosure or do you need any other information? And obviously I'm being as circumspect as possible because again I'm not trying to I'm not trying to disclose Miss Stum's personal information any more than necessary. Nor am I trying to do that with respect to Chief Deputy Sand either. Um I invited Sheriff Mclaflin because obviously it might affect how he decides to staff matters.

[01:28:51]Um, nevertheless, any questions or need any any additional information from me, Miss Stuffy?

[01:28:58]>> No, your honor.

[01:29:00]>> Mr. Murphy, same question. Any Do you have any questions or >> No, I apprec I appreciate you calling this uh this status conference, your honor. Um, I will of course have to talk to my client and and follow up with Miss Duffy. Um, uh, so I appreciate that.

[01:29:20]Um, appreciate the heads up, your honor.

[01:29:25]>> All right. Uh, and and Mr. Murphy, thank you for agreeing to appear on short notice. As you can see now, why I didn't want to wait until we had a jury panled uh in panel or sitting there uh for this conversation to happen. And again, this is a recent a recent development. So, I wanted the parties to know as soon as possible so you can make informed decisions about how to proceed. So with that we are adjourned. Thank you. Uh I appreciate it. Have a good day.

[01:29:53]>> Thank you. You too. You're author.

[01:29:58]>> Ah that was interesting. That was a cool one. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. The right thing happened. You disclose it. And in this particular circumstance given these relationships I don't think it makes one way of difference but you want to disclose it before things happen. obviously so that uh people can't concoct a uh you know conspiracy after the fact.

[01:30:25]None none of this is a big deal. There's nothing wrong with it, but it has triggered the obligation to disclose and the judge did it. He just made it he was just so solemn about it, which is appropriate, I suppose, but he he just made it sound a lot more nefarious than it was, which is why we had fun with it.

[01:30:48]All right. All right. That's what I got.

[01:30:51]Thank you all for coming out. I appreciate Thanks Zack over at Law Nerdsite for getting I think he's responsible for all that. All that, including the feel-good moment in front of Judge Simpson.

[01:31:03]Thanks for coming out.