She Cursed Out Her Probation Officer — Judge Asked Her Age and Everything Changed!

[00:00:00]Hello.

[00:00:03]Oh, so here's the thing. If someone says hello, there's usually a response back.

[00:00:07]So, let me just tell you what's going on. You're being rude and disrespectful to your probation officer. You act like you're not on probation. When I say there's to be no contact, there's to be no contact. And now you're using profanity towards probation officer like you're not on probation and that this is somehow his fault. It is not. It's all your fault. You're here because you're on deferred adjudication for injuring someone who's an elderly person.

[00:00:33]That's why you're here. You're not on probation because he placed you on probation. You're not on probation because he committed a crime and you're taking the time for him. You're here because of your actions and you're acting as though none of this is your fault. This is all your fault, 100%.

[00:00:48]>> I'm not acting like none of this is my fault and I take accountability for what I've done.

[00:00:52]>> No, you have not taken accountability.

[00:00:54]Did you take accountability for using profanity towards him? No.

[00:00:58]>> No, I didn't.

[00:01:00]>> And I don't know why people think that when you're in a situation where you should be using logic to find what are using your cognitive skills to decide how I'm going to proceed with this, instead you go after your probation officer. And the probation officer, let's be honest, every defense attorney will tell you a probation officer holds your life in their hands because you know what?

[00:01:25]You're let's say you're supposed to report to probation at 9:00 a.m.

[00:01:29]And you end up reporting at 9:05. Guess what? You have not reported at 9:00 a.m.

[00:01:33]A probation officer can say, "Hey, that's a no report." But sometimes they may take sympathy on you and say, "I realize what's going on. They're here."

[00:01:42]But they don't have to do that. And you using profanity towards a probation officer is not helping your case at all.

[00:01:48]>> And I understand that. And the reason why I did and I didn't I just said the F word because he called me a liar. And when I didn't like to hear about any situation that was going on.

[00:02:01]I sent them all the information from my legal aid lawyer. I sent them everything. He even gave me his personal number for me to contact him. When I had to go to the emergency room and had to get a blood transfusion, he even offered to take me there.

[00:02:15]He called >> This is not your blood This is not about your blood.

[00:02:18]>> that's not my blood, but it's He He basically when I went to go see him, he was telling me that I lied to him.

[00:02:25]Which I never lied to him about anything.

[00:02:27]>> No, no, no, no. This starts with you wanting to go to a location where I said you were not allowed to have contact.

[00:02:34]That's where all of this came up. Then everything snowballs into something else.

[00:02:37]>> Yes, ma'am. And I did exactly what you told me to do. And I didn't go to that location. I filed my police reports. I did everything that I could do without going to that location.

[00:02:48]>> All right. So, then that was it?

[00:02:51]I don't know what What do you expect him to do?

[00:02:54]Like here's the I like for people to just put their cards on their their table. Sometimes people are like, "Judge." But I like everybody to have an understand So, you go to him because you want to go to a location and retrieve items when I told you you couldn't go to that location. So, we're back to the point. What did you want him to do?

[00:03:17]>> I asked him if was there any assistance or any way that I could. He told me, "I don't know."

[00:03:23]He told me he didn't know. He couldn't help me. So, I didn't have no other choice but to call the police, make a police report. I had my daughter, she's 16 years old, to go to go there. When she went there, don't you She took pictures of everything that was outside.

[00:03:39]>> All right. So, again, what did you want him to do? He said, "Hey, I don't know. There's nothing I can do for you."

[00:03:44]>> When I contacted a Miss Adams, she told me to ask my probation if there's any assistance that he can help me or provide without going to that location.

[00:03:55]>> And he's saying no?

[00:03:56]>> And he said no and I I told him I don't have no other choice. My My children is 16 and 18. They didn't have the money.

[00:04:05]They don't have money for you all. My daughter just quit her job because no one was able to take her to work. So, I didn't have no nobody else to help me get >> So, again, I don't know how this translates into you using profanity against him. He's like, "I can't help you." And honestly, it's not his job to help you get your things. Really, you know what a probation officer's job really is? And they'll correct me if I'm wrong, but their job is to make sure that you abide by your conditions.

[00:04:32]Everything else that they're doing is just extra, but that's not their job.

[00:04:37]It's not For example, if you can't pay your utilities, it's not their job to to find places for you to pay utilities.

[00:04:45]They'll do it. They'll say, "Here's some places that you can call."

[00:04:49]But, that's not his job. And if he tells you, "I can't help you with getting your things." Again, we're back to the point.

[00:04:56]He says, "I can't help you." So, what do you want me to do?

[00:04:59]He's like, "I can't help you."

[00:05:02]>> And I >> How does that translate into using profanity against him?

[00:05:07]And then telling him sending him an email telling him all this is his fault and it's on his shoulders. It's not. All of this happened because of you.

[00:05:15]Guess what? You can't go to that location because you injured a elderly person. That's why it's all your fault.

[00:05:22]And there are consequences for all our actions.

[00:05:27]>> It is and I communicated with him. I told him everything. I sent every case number. I even sent him my legal aid information. I sent everything. I tried to do everything the right way before it even went out of hand.

[00:05:39]>> But, see, here's what you don't understand and you're not internalizing what I'm saying.

[00:05:44]He is telling you, "I can't help you with that."

[00:05:48]And you still keep going back to him.

[00:05:49]He's already told you, "I can't help you with that." Giving him numbers to your legal aid, giving him numbers to this person saying, "We're trying to help her get her things." He can't help you with that. His whole role is to supervise you on probation. That's it.

[00:06:04]He can't say, "You know what I'm going to do? I tell you what, let me go over there and get your things for you." He can't do that. That's not his job. Now, if he offers to do that, great, but he doesn't have to. He has told you more than once, "I cannot help you with that." I don't I still don't understand how that goes and translates into you using profanity against him. His job is hard as it is, and then to have somebody come in and use profanity against him, that's an issue. And then to have you go into that location when you know you're not supposed to, that's an issue.

[00:06:38]>> No, they go to the wrong location.

[00:06:41]I didn't I had to call the police from a different location.

[00:06:44]>> All right, so you called the police, and then what happened?

[00:06:47]>> I made the police report. I went down to um the property. I also went down to 315, the headquarters, to fill out all the information because the day I was arrested, everything was stolen. My car, my credit cards, everything. So, I'm trying to do the everything that I have to do the best way that I can, the right way.

[00:07:11]>> All right, the right way is not using profanity against your probation officer. So, that's not the right way.

[00:07:16]The right way is not being disrespectful. And you know what? This whole thing with the injury to the elderly where I ordered anger management, you do have an anger problem. Because when people tell you no, you can't accept that, you take it to a hundred.

[00:07:32]He said, "I can't help you with that."

[00:07:33]And then you use profanity against him, you're calling him all sorts of names.

[00:07:38]Nobody likes to be called out their given name.

[00:07:41]>> I didn't call him all his name. I just said it was fine. I didn't have no other choice. So, I would have to figure >> No, no, no. We're not here because you said it was just fine. Where is the officer?

[00:07:53]Officer, come forward, please.

[00:07:56]Whatever.

[00:07:57]All right. So, you're Officer Wolf?

[00:07:59]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:08:00]>> All right. So, let me ask you a question.

[00:08:03]Are you able to go to to her former location and get her items for her?

[00:08:09]No.

[00:08:09]>> No, ma'am.

[00:08:11]>> That's your answer, no. Are you able to file a police report for her so she can get her items?

[00:08:15]>> No, ma'am.

[00:08:16]>> So, he can't do that. So, what do you want from him?

[00:08:20]>> I have to do it on my own. So, there's nothing he can help me with and then I >> Well, see, that's the thing. Now, when you're before me and you're looking at potentially going to prison, now you're like, "Oh, well, I he can't help me with that." He's told you that. Be an adult.

[00:08:34]Solve your own problems. This is supposed to be problem-solving. That's how why you're on probation for anger management issues cuz you can't problem-solve. I don't know. Maybe you never were taught to problem-solve, but if he's telling you no, he can't do that, that's not in his job description, then there's no need to use profanity against him. He's told you, "I can't do it."

[00:08:57]>> Judge, if I could >> Yes.

[00:08:58]>> for a minute. Um Throughout my time working with Ms. Holmes, it's been pretty apparent that she has a pattern of not taking responsibility or accountability for her behavior. Um This last incident just kind of made it painfully obvious how there's a deeper issue.

[00:09:21]There's a heart issue.

[00:09:22]Um until she can get her heart right, this pattern of of behavior is going to continue for her through her life.

[00:09:35]>> Mhm.

[00:09:35]>> Um and she's going to continue to be a danger to herself, to the community, to her victims, everybody. She she needs to get her heart right and realize that choices and actions have consequences, good and bad, unintended and unintended, anticipated, unanticipated, and until she gets her heart right and realizes that that this is just going to continue.

[00:10:06]>> All right. Thank you so much, and thank you for coming down.

[00:10:09]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:10:10]>> So, you're going to have to start using your cognitive skills and your problem-solving.

[00:10:19]That's it.

[00:10:21]When somebody tells you they can't do something, then they can't do it.

[00:10:25]If somebody tells you, "No, I can't take you to the grocery store today," figure it out.

[00:10:30]He is not really responsible for anything outside of his job description. If he does something outside of his job description, that's just probation officers being nice.

[00:10:41]>> I understand that, but why would you offer to try to help me when I'm asking for some type of help, and then you tell me you can't help me?

[00:10:51]>> Yeah, he said no.

[00:10:54]It Let me just tell you, here's a perfect example.

[00:10:56]And I I've been in situations where people have told me no, and my thing is, I want you to not send me place to place if the answer is no, just tell me no, and I'll figure it out. He told you no.

[00:11:08]If I ask him right now, like for example, I had to rush here this morning cuz I don't like being late, and I was filling in for somebody else on another matter, and guess what?

[00:11:23]My tank is out of fourth. I don't like it being out of fourth.

[00:11:27]Now, would somebody go Excuse me.

[00:11:31]Could you go and put gas in my car for me?

[00:11:34]They're going to say no.

[00:11:36]Now, what do I do with that? Do I use profanity against him? How dare you not go put gas in my car? He's just told me no. So, guess what? As an adult, I got to figure it out.

[00:11:48]That's it. You got to figure it out. And your figuring it out is let me get angry with somebody and use profanity against them and maybe they'll then become so afraid of something and say, "Okay, we'll do that for you." Not his job.

[00:12:04]And I can tell you right now, if you don't start treating people with respect, one, you're not going to get anywhere because when you disrespect people, they don't want to help you.

[00:12:14]>> And I'm just >> And number two, >> treat with respect.

[00:12:16]>> No, you did not. That's the thing.

[00:12:17]You're still in this clouds like these are not I don't know how your relationships are outside of this world.

[00:12:25]But in this world, you need to treat people with respect whether you respect them or not. Like right now, you can hate my guts all you want to, but you had better say, "Your Honor" or "Judge."

[00:12:35]You understand?

[00:12:37]You better not be calling me out of my given name and you better not be calling probation officers out of your given name. I'm sure he told you, "No, I cannot help you."

[00:12:47]And when somebody says, "No, I cannot help you with something," uh maybe you want to ask them again.

[00:12:53]You ask them again. If you ask the third time, you're begging. And he's already told you he can't help you with that.

[00:12:58]That is not his job. That is outside his job description. If he decides to help you outside of his job description, that's just him being nice.

[00:13:07]You need to figure it out.

[00:13:10]The same way people have children and you figured out how to have children, you need to figure out how to get the rest of your life together.

[00:13:17]You're on probation because of your actions. And honestly, the reports I received, I will tell you, when I received that report, I told them, "Follow motion to revoke.

[00:13:29]And then probation came to me and said, "Judge, could we do a compliance hearing and have her come in?" And I'm like, "Yeah, if you all want to do a compliance hearing, we will do a compliance hearing. So, this is the last time I'm having this conversation with you telling you you need to be respectful to people and you need to learn how to problem solve. How old are you?"

[00:13:51]>> 33 >> You're 33 years old.

[00:13:54]You figured out how to get all of those piercings, right?

[00:13:58]You figured out how to get the nails, you figured all of that out on your own.

[00:14:03]You need to figure this out on your own.

[00:14:05]Is there anything else you need from me?

[00:14:08]>> No.

[00:14:09]>> All right, does she need to When does her next report date?

[00:14:13]>> What that?

[00:14:17]>> And are you employed?

[00:14:19]>> You told me I had 30 days to find a job.

[00:14:21]I had a business, but all my stuff is gone.

[00:14:23]>> All right, so that'll be a no. So, Ms. Ferguson, >> Yeah.

[00:14:28]>> recall her for the week of August 11th and I'm going to see how you're doing on probation.

[00:14:35]What date?

[00:14:36]>> I can do that. That's my date the 11th.

[00:14:38]>> All right, so you're coming back on August 11th for me to get a report on what's going on.

[00:14:44]Uh if you'll give her a receipt form.

[00:14:46]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:14:48]>> Uh probation, >> Yes, Judge.

[00:14:50]>> uh When is her next report date with you?

[00:14:52]>> She's not having an appointment set right now. Um from Officer Wolf's information, she was supposed to be reporting twice >> He wrote on the papers uh July 9th.

[00:15:10]>> Twice a month?

[00:15:11]>> July 9th?

[00:15:11]>> That's what he wrote on the papers.

[00:15:13]>> All right, so she said her next court I mean her next appointment date with him is July 9th.

[00:15:20]All right.

[00:15:21]>> I have >> um Mr. Wolf was mentioned that yes, the supposed to have been in front as well.

[00:15:29]But that she did not have it.

[00:15:32]>> All right.

[00:15:33]>> I don't have no way to say no address.

[00:15:38]>> It was It was ordered June 5th.

[00:15:41]Um and it was supposed to be down to work at least way for days. So a partial for 28 for the zone.

[00:15:48]>> All right. So Um if you all could give her a list of places for her to find uh housing.

[00:15:57]And then uh we're going to come back on August 11th and by August 11th you need to have the GPS on.

[00:16:06]All right. Thank you.

[00:16:09]>> And that right there is what happens when you let anger speak louder than logic. A woman on probation, already walking a thin line after injuring an elderly person, came into that courtroom and made everything worse for herself.

[00:16:24]Her probation officer couldn't retrieve her belongings, couldn't file her police reports, couldn't solve her personal problems, and that's not what he's there for. But instead of accepting that and figuring it out like an adult, she let frustration take over and directed it at the one person who had the most power over her freedom. The judge saw right through it. No excuses, no sympathy, just the hard truth delivered straight.

[00:16:51]Accountability doesn't care about your circumstances. It doesn't matter what you've been through or what you've lost.

[00:16:57]At the end of the day, your choices are yours and so are the consequences.

[00:17:01]That's what this channel is all about.

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