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[00:00:02]>> Uh listen, we read this paragraph in here about these quotes coronal discharges that you guys were seeing and and that that completely stops us. Tell tell us what how this came about and who who talked to you about and what it and what you saw.

[00:00:19]>> Reported it on somebody reported on one of the earlier flights that uh some guy up I got the letter paperwork somewhere.

[00:00:27]They shut it down and made the case about two things where the V8 jet radio noises which could be discharged from some place in space and the other one were I thought it was flight being a spacecraft at night with their eyes closed they noticed them when they were awake at night the spacecraft was dark and they thought they were in a spacecraft but whoever this guy was said no that's a perfectly known phenomena you can get direct across your eyes from gamma rays or something. So you had a bunch of things would we close our eyes and face the moon, you know, when we were orbiting it because it would be more you get less discharges facing the moon than away from us. But you don't have to be anywhere near the moon or anywhere the first night out.

[00:01:19]And if you if you keep your eyes closed and you're awake down there and it's dark and you think about it when it happens, you can cut your hat. You can you can pin down and it's one eye. It's not a discharge that you see in both eyes. You really see it with one eye or the other eye. And you can see what kind it is. We had two kind. I guess the part will either strike the eyeball perpendicular or or it discharges parallel. And we get either a a flash like that or we get a streak. And uh and I feel that I noticed I either got a flash or a three.

[00:01:54]>> And I for some reason got more with my left eye than my right eye, but I could tell which guy it was when I was concentrating on it. I'm trying to tell you the reason he did it because his left was always on the left side of the space.

[00:02:09]across all >> they should have protected you, Dick.

[00:02:24]They should have all They should have picked them all up.

[00:02:28]>> I'm surprised you didn't hear about this because we were asked to specifically experiment with this thing or two.

[00:02:38]We didn't bother every talked about this.

[00:02:48]>> I I remember their their conversation about it.

[00:02:52]>> They thought it was something, you know, penetrating the spacecraft.

[00:02:57]>> What Pete described is the exact phenomena that all three of us thought.

[00:03:01]you see a light just a flash out there or sometimes it be on the street and I saw them in both eyes either eye and I can't remember one is more predominant than the other but I agree with Pet is a phenomenon that you're not seeing with both eyes it's not something external to you something >> coming across they know that a completely known phenomena >> well we've been looking for uh cosmic rays, you know, cosmic ray strikes and uh heavy heavy particles, heavy nuclei that that go through. You know, we started at Clear Back in Mercury taking photographs of the retina to see if you could see streaks across the retina and stuff. We never could find any in there. And so we stopped that up early in well by the end of the >> Your eye is what the fancyer on your body and if it's doing anything, you're never going to see it. By the time you get a guy back, nobody ever going to see it as if you photograph it right after a particle.

[00:04:02]>> Well, probably what what it's doing anyway, it's probably hitting just a single cell. And uh yeah, that's all it' have to do. Particularly make this flash. You know, you hit a single cell.

[00:04:12]>> I saw one night looking at the MD a handrail up above and one right I don't know where it went. It's weird, you know, right along that handrail for about that that distance. And I just had to be looking like that and you could almost see him at will.

[00:04:28]>> That's right. Just lie there.

[00:04:30]>> You close your eyes. I want to see one.

[00:04:32]He open my eye and see it.

[00:04:37]You didn't believe it. It hurted from that. You know what we heard? I had seen them and God.

[00:04:50]They said remember the mission you wake up at night you say well I think ought to see something you can close your eyes on you come about one minute >> uh let let me ask you one more question about heart uh oh here >> were these random distribution of these or did they seem to be fairly hard >> okay uh were these were these things random or did they als seem to be in one direction like were they always horizontal or were they at random? They could be at any kind of angle.

[00:05:26]>> The streets I saw one I saw were horizontal. I was going to say that's interesting. Mine it seemed to me I had the impression that they were always roughly in the same place and mine were horizontal. The horizontal streaks were always if I knew where I was looking, it always seemed like the horizontal streak was a little bit above the center. And it always seemed to me it went from right to left. No matter which eye it was in the uh the uh discharges were more towards the center and it would be just a it was just like a pinpoint of light went >> like somebody was flashing a light at you.

[00:06:06]>> That's right.

[00:06:18]Is that about the same for both of you?

[00:06:22]>> Is that the same uh reaction you had, Dick and Al? The way he described it.

[00:06:29]>> Yeah, mine were about 30° horizontal, but they were kind of I didn't know them from the right or left.

[00:06:37]That's pretty >> but about the same. They seem to appear about the same place.

[00:06:44]>> No, >> the ones the horizontal ones that I saw were generally above eye level.

[00:06:55]>> Now I I don't know that I can't include any I can't remember. I just don't remember him being down on the lower part of the vision.

[00:07:04]You seen that dick telling you that see him with his eyes open and and other things that he center his eye on the lights on the instrument panel. But I used to notice them the most when I was down there in that sleeping bag. It was pitch black down there in the hole and wouldn't make any difference whether my eyes were open or closed. I could lay there for I used to kill time that way say for a half an hour and either open them or close them and wait and sure enough after a while you'd get one and then I'd sit there for a while and say okay was it in the left eye or the right eye. It take you a while to sort it out and but you usually figure out which eye it was in. Now you know what you know you're supposed to be sleeping on.

[00:07:44]>> Yeah.

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