I’m here only on medical issues – I don’t even know if my affidavit reached the Senate!– Dr. Gikonyo

Added: 2026-05-14

[00:00:00]We better all deal with it.

[00:00:02]We deal with We deal with it. Yes. Thank you.

[00:00:59]Senior counsel Thank you. Let me ask you a couple of questions before you I recently have about three or four questions for the witness.

[00:01:07]I I don't think I have much to add.

[00:01:10]Good morning, Dr. Good morning, sir.

[00:01:11]My name is Edwin Mukele.

[00:01:13]I represent the third and fourth respondents. I've been permitted by senior counsel Professor Ojienda to ask one or two questions on behalf of the Senate. Thank you, sir.

[00:01:25]Now, I heard your last comment to be that you are not sure, and this goes to Dr. Kiang Ho who's very last statement. You are not sure whether you have access to the Senate.

[00:01:40]That's what I heard you say. Yes, I said so, sir.

[00:01:50]Now, Dr. Kiang Ho, you know, the affidavit that you presented before court is sworn on the 28th of April 2026.

[00:02:01]That's correct. That's correct.

[00:02:03]Do you recall when the first petitioner was impeached?

[00:02:09]Not the exact date, but I believe the same day that he came to hospital.

[00:02:13]The same day that he came in to hospital.

[00:02:17]Would that be the 17th of October 2024?

[00:02:21]Most likely, sir. Most likely.

[00:02:24]This is about We didn't receive your affidavit in court about 1 and 1/2 years That is correct.

[00:02:31]>> after he has been impeached. That's correct.

[00:02:39]Now, going back to your evidence, and I'll be very brief on that point.

[00:02:45]When asked a question on whether the documents you presented would have been presented to the Senate.

[00:02:55]Um your answer was the request has come now.

[00:03:00]That is what I had you to answer to one of Dr. Gacuko's questions. Yes, that's why I'm here today. The request has come now. That's why I'm here today, sir. So so so the request, Dr. Dr. Liconya, to file the affidavit and the attached documents has come now. That is what you said, yes? Yes, I I mean now, yes.

[00:03:21]From whom did you receive the request?

[00:03:24]From the petitioner.

[00:03:26]You received the request from the petitioner.

[00:03:28]>> Yes.

[00:03:34]Do you recall, do you know when the petitioner first filed the petition? Am I making up? No, I don't.

[00:03:44]And I'm not interested.

[00:03:47]You You're giving evidence, and you're not interested in in the context of a petition in which you have no interest.

[00:03:54]Is that what you're telling the court?

[00:03:55]Yes, that I'm here purely on a medical issue, not on a court issue.

[00:04:02]That is startling, Dr. Oki Kanyonga.

[00:04:05]It means in my view, you probably don't understand the reason you're here.

[00:04:08]But I will go on You have also, and this is my last question, by the way, and very brief.

[00:04:18]You have also confirmed that you do not know whether the affidavit and the documents attached were before the Senate. Do you have any information on that?

[00:04:30]Not at all. You don't have any information on that. And I agree with you, sometimes I I didn't know why I'm here.

[00:04:42]My understanding is I'm here to answer medical questions about the petitioner in hospital. So about law things and court and Senate, I am ignorant. So Dr. Oki Kanyonga Dr. Oki Kanyonga Yes, your honor. Um You cannot tell the court, from what I understood whether the affidavit and the documents presented to the Sorry, the the the affidavit sworn by yourself on the 28th of April were before the Senate at the time of the impeachment proceeding. I wouldn't know, and to be honest with you, that's okay. I have no interest in those matters.

[00:05:18]>> That's okay. That's okay.

[00:05:20]We understand that you do not know why you're here. Uh Madam Those are the very brief questions on behalf of the Senate.

[00:05:27]Uh I beg to Thank you. Thank you.

[00:05:39]Dr. Oki Kanyonga My Lord, we had uh Dr. Kanyonga as well.

[00:05:44]Just two questions, then that witness can re-examined. If you permit me, please.

[00:05:49]My lord, um there was no affidavit filed by Dr. uh Kambuga.

[00:05:56]And um you have given directions before the commencement of this proceeding. Let's let Dr. Kambuga speak for himself. Dr. Kambuga didn't file any affidavits.

[00:06:10]Yes, my lord, my lady.

[00:06:12]They They didn't file any affidavits? We we have uh put our responses. We we have been a joint We have a joint approach to this matter, and that's why you find uh my my my lord, that not every one of us makes uh submissions or presentations on every occasion. I think I think while you could be correct, if I allow you, then there's no basis why I cannot allow the other side, because it also just hangs on that on that point. Okay. I think for clarity of purpose, uh I don't think it's necessary Most of the very well. They are most obliged.

[00:07:01]My lord, I'll proceed with the re-examination of Dr. Ikonyu.