Laura Coates ENDS Her Show & HUMILIATED Scott Jennings in Heated Debate!

Added: 2026-05-30

[00:00:00]There's a complicated history there with black Americans and white Americans, but over time people >> listen, I'm from the South and there's a saying that God don't like ugly. And so I think Democrats are going to continue to fight fire because we understand that this isn't just about November. Again, it's a long-term play to undermine black political power.

[00:00:18]>> How why is it undermining black political power just to take away an artificial floor of Democratic seats?

[00:00:24]Oh, me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me. Okay how it could undermine black voting strength if what you say is true, there would have been no reason to dissect Memphis in the way that it was and vote to actually be the case. But with gerrymandering, that can't exist.

[00:00:38]Tim, bye everyone. We got more to talk about. Yeah, it's my show. Last word next.

[00:00:42]>> Hello everybody, guys. Well, I'll be damned. You won't believe where I found the little guy this time. I saw him riding the train. A choo choo train.

[00:00:52]It's incredible. I know it's hard to believe, but what can I say? Let's get into this segment and we'll talk about it.

[00:00:58]>> Democrats scoring a one-two punch against Republicans in the redistricting war today. In Alabama, a federal court blocked the state from using a GOP drawn map in the upcoming midterm elections.

[00:01:10]The three judge panel called it unfair to black voters. And I should note, two of those judges were Trump appointees.

[00:01:17]Now, let's go to South Carolina, where early voting began just today. and the state senate defied Trump's push for a new map that would have drawn Congressman James Clyurn right out of his district. 14 Republicans voted to kill that plan.

[00:01:32]But I can no longer support passage of this bill for one simple reason.

[00:01:38]South Carolina citizens are going to the polls today.

[00:01:42]And neither my conscience nor my common sense will allow me to stop an election that is already underway.

[00:01:52]>> The panel is back with me. All right, Shichel, you know that you risk some wrath from President Trump when you defy his orders. So, um, FYI, can he?

[00:02:01]>> No, he cannot.

[00:02:02]>> No, not article not article three. But tell me what you think about the idea of um the message they're sending by doing this.

[00:02:07]>> Yeah, look, South Carolina. I'm not surprised. I've known Congressman Clavin for a very, very long time. I have great admiration for him. And he has built over decades relationships with Republicans in that state, including the governor. They like him. That stuff matters. You go to Alabama, the South, I'm a Southerner. There's a complicated history there with black Americans and white Americans. But over time, people, political officials have built relationships with each other to try to make these systems work as best as possible. So despite uh the president's edict to move forward with gerrymandering, a lot of these officials are saying, "Wait a minute here, our relationships will continue beyond the Trump presidency." And I and I think many of the political leaders are looking at it through that lens and saying, "Perhaps this isn't the the right approach, the ethical approach to disenfranchise our friends even though we may politically disagree." That's the way I look at this.

[00:02:54]>> Well, that was that would give people a little bit more grace. I think um we've seen in the sense that some people are looking very shortsighted and thinking you know what yes maybe down the road democracy will be questioned but today I got to stay in office I'm following Trump >> well a lot of people have made that shut up Scott you here Michael I would love to know what exactly was complicated you mean like brutally forced labor of enslaved back black people in Alabama oh no no you meant Jim Crow sundown towns know what in the f exactly is complicated about white and black people in Alabama in the history there. I think it's very crystal clear simple as a pimple as to what happened. I wish somebody would ask what the hell is complicated little [ __ ] You heard someone chuckle there. How ridiculous the comment and the balls on this little [ __ ] Sh Michael to talk about this issue. He was just on an earlier segment talking about how James Terico, if he wants to win in Texas, he really needs to win over the black um the black voter and how he has so much work to do to get the younger black vote. And I just find this kind of crap so snaky. Taler Rico has a lot of work to do with black people. Have you seen your party, little Sher Michael? Like just incredible. Only when Shermichel can use black people as his his own people as a weapon is when he talks in concern for them. but keeps his mouth completely shut on the all out assault on black people by his party.

[00:04:24]Comes on to live TV TV defending and excusing this crap. No, it's a little complicated, guys. You heard what he said there. It's a little complicated decision that, you know, I'm going to make a party decision. Now, in South Carolina, the election was going on and so they did have an out uh and that's what I think a lot of them were arguing.

[00:04:42]They may come back and redraw this in 28 uh and turn it into a 70 map. So, you know, it's one seat. Um, would it be nice to have when the the fight for the House is going to be, I think, pretty nip tuck? Absolutely. Is it the end of the world? No. Will it catch the president's attention that a bunch of Republican office holders in a state that he won by a bajillion points uh defied his views? Of course.

[00:05:04]>> What's the consequence of that?

[00:05:06]>> Of course it Well, well, what happened in the state of Indiana, you know, where you had state senators who defied him on what they wanted to do there, and he took out several of them in the Indiana primary. Now again, the election's going on in South Carolina, so this might get punted down the road, both in terms of dealing with those people and dealing with a new map, but you know, that's what's >> But Alabama was interesting though, Scott. They didn't necessarily, you know, the courts didn't have to rule the way they did. uh they're uber conservative judges there and they decided to never nevertheless I wouldn't say >> in fact let me read you a part let me read you part of this is they actually say we cannot see our way clear to requiring Alamians to cast their votes in the 2026 elections under a districting plan tainted by intentional racebased discrimination they didn't necessarily have to worry about it at all and frankly the South Carolinians they saw what happened in Indiana and acted anyway did that surprise you Uh, you know, listen, I'm from the south and there's a saying that God don't like ugly. And so I haven't heard that in a long time.

[00:06:07]>> My grandmother, >> get get back in church. Okay. Get back in church. So, so for me, >> you just said they weren't there in the last segment. So, okay. Go ahead. Be where you are.

[00:06:16]>> Rico can reach you. Okay. Nevertheless, no. So, so, so my point is there there clearly are some still some reasonable Republicans that are left in the their party uh nationally and locally that that objected to uh what has become sort of a heavy-handed approach uh from Trump and the Supreme Court to undermine black political power all across the South.

[00:06:40]And you know, there was a whispering campaign early on after the Voting Rights Act was dismantled that this is likely going to have uh and I heard it from Congressman uh figures whose uh district is is one in Alabama that they were trying to to draw out that this is going to backfire on them and now we're seeing it actually backfire.

[00:06:58]>> Well, how about for Democrat? I want to hear your point, but I'm curious as a strategist particularly. There had been a a lot of concern and hope from Democratic voters that Democrats would play and and meet fire with fire. But now that there is a more, let's call it tempered response in terms of South Carolina or Alabama through the courts.

[00:07:15]Does this now disincentivize Democrats to fight that fire with fire by redrawing our maps?

[00:07:20]>> That was fire with fire three months ago. The clock has run out on all these primaries. People are already voting in almost every place. Scott was right about that. in South Carolina, the old man in South Carolina who's been there a long time, Clber's brought a lot of money and that money didn't go to just red places or blue places. He came to the whole state and folks pretty much agree that the Democrats will take control of at least the House and they know Klyber will be in a position of power to bring all the money that he's always brought back to South Carolina.

[00:07:44]And Klyurn's old school gets along with lots of people down there. He has a fish fry. He's not one of these flamethrowing folks down there. Like there's still folks that like him down there. I think that's why you saw this. So if this weren't Clyburn though, yes, but if it weren't Clyburn, are you saying that they would have done something different or is it the fact that would have stopped?

[00:08:02]>> Is it more than just Clyburn's district that was at stake?

[00:08:04]>> I mean, I think we should not lose sight of the fact that this is a long game for Republicans. The undermining of ERA is not just about this particular midterm.

[00:08:12]It's about midterms. So I think Democrats are going to continue to fight fire because we understand that this isn't just about November. Again, it's a long-term play to undermine black political power. How does this how how does >> Shut up, Scott. And guys, the Voting Rights Act, Voting Rights Act is just one of the many. It's been an allout assault on black people since Republicans have come back into office from doing ridiculous things. Taking down um exhibits from museums, teaching about black history, slavery, and stuff like that. Like just ridiculous things.

[00:08:45]Attacking DEI and threatening companies if they still have it implemented implemented. Just the notion of a company would dare try and give minorities a fair shake. That's why it infuriates me when I hear Republicans, especially someone like Sher Michael, a black dude, a Republican, speak about this issue. It's just like, are you paying at all attention as to what your party is screaming loudly to everyone to hear about people that look like you, Sure, Michael? Like, in my view, he should just shut his damn mouth. He doesn't care about his own people. Stop pretending as you do. And Republicans will say, "Well, why does it matter? Why couldn't a Republican represent black districts?" Because of the things that I just said, it's been an allout assault on them. You guys have no intentions of helping their lives whatsoever. And in in fact, that's why you jerrymanded the crap out of them.

[00:09:36]Like, you don't want them to have any power. And like for to see little Sher Michael, guys, it infur infuriates me.

[00:09:43]You're an actual black puppet for a party infested with white nationalists.

[00:09:49]Could you imagine? You're you're as tiny as a puppet as well. Like I'm surprised they even let him speak. They're already took trying to take all your voting power away. What's next, Sher Michael?

[00:10:02]Like no matter how close you stand to these people, how how how much you talk like them, say the things they say, you will always be black to them. Papa, remember that little puppy and what that means to them.

[00:10:16]>> The Cala case, the VRA case, undermine black political power. All black Americans, all white Americans, all Americans before the Cala case had one vote and now they all still have the franchise and they have one vote. Why is it undermining black political power just to take away an artificial floor of Democratic seats?

[00:10:34]>> Oh, me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me. Okay, I'm taking you. So, I was in the voting section of the civil rights division and I'll tell you as everyone realizes that when you dilute the voting power of particular population, the one person, one vote is essentially a myth. If you tell them that they're going to be separated and can never actually vote for a candidate of their choosing or have the opportunity to have that candidate elected, that's problematic. And before you give me that squint, don't tell me that Republicans have fewer offices in the New England or whatever. But the crux of the matter is the Voting Rights Act in 1965 was designed to make sure that voting strength was universal. And if you dilute that power through gerrymandering and separating districts, then you do undermine the ability to do that very thing.

[00:11:16]But to elect a candidate of their choosing, not entitled to the winner, but a candidate of your choosing.

[00:11:21]>> But they're going to go to the polls and they're going to see names on a ballot and they can vote for anybody on that ballot they want. To me, the underpinninging of your argument is black political power must be aimed only at one political party. I think the conservative argument here is is that black voters, white voters, any voters in any community ought to expect out of both parties >> an argument what's best for me as an individual American voter.

[00:11:46]>> And so to try to group people together and say you all are you all are forced to vote for one kind of a candidate, aka Democrat.

[00:11:53]>> I hear you, Scott, but you're not you're not quoting my argument. You're quoting someone else's. Mine is actually directly related to the voting power and it's not about partisanship. You asked the question as to why and how it could undermine black voting strength. If what you say is true, there would have been no reason to dissect Memphis in the way that it was. If what you say was true, there'd be no reason to gerrymander districts with a goal towards what what President Trump spoke about, trying to add particular numbers to one particular side. I think people universally do want one person, one vote to actually be the case, but with gerrymandering, that can't exist. Stand by everyone. We got more to talk about. Yeah, it's my show.

[00:12:35]Last word. Next. Justice Department. Got him. Did you see Scott's stupid face pretending to not understand to to not understand where he is or understand the English language?

[00:12:46]Scott's literal argument is, well, they can vote just like everyone else. Yes, but there's no power behind them, you effing idiot. He knows that. And guys, I've thought about an easier way to think about this. Imagine a classroom, right, is a district and the teacher is their representative. They voted for that they want, right? What Republicans did is take the classroom that are majority black, right? Specifically, and took all those students and spread them across white classrooms. The reason for this is to dilute their power so that they can't get the teacher they want or the representative just like, right, anyone else. But since now all the black um students in that classroom or district has been split up, it means they can't come together and vote for the teacher that's actually going to teach them what they want, right? Um look after their issues. That's why these morals keep coming out in here and saying, "Well, I don't understand. You can still vote for whoever you want."

[00:13:44]Yeah, sure. But they can't win because of what you just did. And what it really means is that again, if I were to use the same analogy, if black students wanted to be taught math instead of science, well, sorry, you can't get the teacher that's going to teach you math.

[00:14:02]You're going to be taught science whether you like it or not. Gabon is that's what Republicans are doing, right? So, black issues won't be addressed. It's not just about a black person being voted or that they can just physically go vote. Yes. No one is saying that they don't have the right to go physically vote, although they would love if that was the case. But I'm going to leave it there, guys. Hopefully that all makes even more sense. But I think it's pretty obvious what they're doing.

[00:14:30]They're diluting it. We all know what diluting means. Instead of it having an actual one to one power, it has less almost zero. Essentially zero. But anyways, I'm going to leave it there, guys. Let me know what you think about all this in the comments. Please leave a like, subscribe. Really helps the channel. Really helps push the message out there. and I'll catch you on the next one. All right.