"Afraid Of Being Branded RACIST" | Fury Over Grooming Gang Cover-Up

Added: 2026-05-26

[00:00:00]Let's move then to or continue to talk about that issue of Louise Casey who says she's failed grooming gang victims.

[00:00:09]Louise Casey of course is uh or previously had done an investigation into this. We speak now to Peter Plexley, former Met Police detective.

[00:00:16]Morning to you, Peter. Um I mean many people are are sympathizing with Louise Casey's report saying, "Look, Louise, you haven't got anything to apologize for. Um, it is not your fault whether things are running late or whether things haven't come out that they should have come out. Uh, but certainly not down to you. What do you say, Peter?

[00:00:34]>> Well, Baroness Luis Casey was reflecting this weekend on a report that she delivered over a decade ago.

[00:00:40]>> Yeah. and lamenting the fact that very little progress has been made despite the fact of course that this government has announced a statutory national inquiry but only after it was dragged kicking and screaming into that position. Um I echo the words of the redoubtable and remarkable Maggie Oliver who in my view is the queen of victims of rape here. um who says that what they really want, what these victims so desperately want is accountability.

[00:01:12]Whether that's going to be delivered through this inquiry and many people have got their suspicions over that.

[00:01:17]Yeah.

[00:01:17]>> But then of course many others say well in terms of accountability where are the social workers, the police officers and the council officials who all looked the other way at best and allowed this to happen. Why aren't they in court? Why aren't they charged with misconduct in public office? And why, if the evidence is there, why aren't they going to prison?

[00:01:40]>> Well, indeed, and this does, I mean, for goodness sake, Peter, how long can this thing linger on for? I mean, it's it's so important. It's of such a crucial nature, young girls lives, multiple victims, hundreds, possibly thousands, industrialcale abuse. And not just the abusers, but those that facilitated it tacitly or otherwise by turning a blind eye. I mean, this is massive. And yet it just seems to every week there's another story, there's another story. When are we going to get to the sort of meat of this and start to get some true understanding, legally reflected true understanding in an inquiry? Well, in part I have an answer to your question because it has been dictated that this inquiry must deliver its findings by March of 2029.

[00:02:31]But that's of no consolation whatsoever to the victims of child rape gangs who are operating now. This is a scandal that's gone on for decades in this country through so many of the towns which we know and are frequently named but now are in our cities. The Metropolitan Police went from their ridiculous position same with Sadique KH nothing to see here to actually their current position which is oh yes actually we do have a problem and we're doing something about it. Why is this not being stopped? Why is it not an absolute top priority? And the answer to that will still remain for many people because politicians rely on block votes that come from the the demographic that is largely responsible for this type of crime which is men of Pakistani origin living in town in the UK. And you know what, Peter, I I I that angle of this um that crucial element of this which should be raised in the same way that you know when when we were talking about abuse in the Catholic Church, we didn't shun away from mentioning where these offenders who they worked for and their their background in their faith, etc. We we talked about all of that because it was a common factor. Um, no detective ever. Uh, I mean, you'd be fired as a detective, wouldn't you? If you didn't bring if you went back to your senior boss and said, you know, I I failed to identify a connection between all of these people. You'd be out the door of whatever that connection might be. My fear with this is that many of those responsible the perpetrator of these horrendous crimes Peter didn't and here's the harrowing bit and still don't think they've done anything wrong which kind of rather marks this out. I mean, if you arrest and nick, you know, the suspicious uncle in a family who's abused a 10year-old child, invariably they will, if nothing else, they will know they've done something wrong. I don't think these guys think they've done something wrong. I think they believe there was a transaction between them and the girls. These were party girls. They were white trash.

[00:04:49]That's how it worked. We were guys that, you know, had a bit more money than them. buy them a drink and they'll do us a few sexual favors. I honestly believe, Peter, these people will see and their families will suggest they've done nothing wrong.

[00:05:03]>> Well, then I would suggest 30 years in a prison cell will give them enough time to reflect on their actions. Perhaps it will dawn on them that raping children is actually an abominable, aborant, and very, very serious criminal offense.

[00:05:18]Fortunately, the National Crime Agency are still carrying out some investigations, but other police services are tracking their heels. We need to see arrests and convictions, not only of offenders, but those establishment people, those who looked the other way, those who said there's nothing to see here. These are child prostitutes. all that kind of appalling dril that they came out with, those people truly need to be held accountable and until and unless that happens, we are never going to get a proper grip on this issue.

[00:05:56]>> Yeah. Um the what marks this out of course Peter among many things um because [clears throat] you know when we talk about this there are some usually on the kind of woke left who say why you you know why are you talking about this one group look here's another group far more um pedophile charter sex sex offending gangs take place by white people well firstly we're talking about a proportionality secondly we're talking about and just one of the many types of abuse that happen to young people but thirdly and perhaps most profoundly Peter So what has marked this particular um element of child sex criminality out from others is the ignoring of it from those that should know better. Whether it was in law enforcement, whether it was in council, social working, health, education, medicine, right across the board, kids that were not listened to.

[00:06:44]That's what the difference is here.

[00:06:46]>> Yeah. And the very root core of this problem of people looking the other way, not doing their job properly, is because they were afraid of being branded racist.

[00:06:57]>> Yeah.

[00:06:58]>> And that, I'm afraid, still pollutes so much of our public services, including policing, the National Health Service, and more. And until we get a grip, and until people realize that standing up and saying facts is not a crime, it doesn't make you racist. You're telling the truth. We've got to we've got to learn across the board to embrace the truth, to say the truth, and to not be afraid.

[00:07:26]>> Yeah, Peter, always wise words from you, sir. Thank you very much indeed. Peter Blexley, former Met Police detective.

[00:07:33]Thank you to him. Over to you on this and other elements we're talking about.

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[00:07:39]Um, this in from Samantha. Me and my dad brought my mom a secondhand caravan. The first words out of her mouth were when she was given the keys was where did you get the money? But Nicholas Sturgeon gets bought a jag, a camper van, gold jewelry, three and a half grand of salt and pepper grinder, five grand worth of coffee machine, fountain pens, plus loads of other things and never thought once where is the money coming from?

[00:08:03]Well, she said she didn't notice it, you know. And it seems Peter Marl was a fairly lonely solitary character. So while um Nicola was hard at work, you know, he was hard kind of polishing his salt and pepper grinder, I don't know, maybe his stop it in his onesie in his camper van playing Grand Theft Auto, writing letters with his Beatles memorabilia fountain pen while looking through his telescope and playing swing ball out the back door.

[00:08:43]He was very, very busy, man. Never stopped it, Peter. Um, maybe just had it in the middle of a woods somewhere, which just rather makes the story even darker, doesn't it? Who's going in the woods? It could have been. So, I wondered whether he was maybe, you know, that show Storage was where they [laughter] they cuz right, you can HAVE ANYTHING YOU LIKE. WHAT'S INSIDE THIS CARAVAN?

[00:09:09]IT'S ALL YOURS. HOW much do you want to bid? and Merurl had like about £48,000 worth stored inside it. That would have been the winning bid, right?