The Man Who Built the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover | Macrodosing - April 30, 2026

追加: 2026-05-07

[00:00:00]How many Italians is too much?

[00:00:02]>> You tell me. What is the number?

[00:00:03]>> I don't. They It's obviously a conversation that somebody had to have.

[00:00:07]>> 60. We all agree. That's a crime.

[00:00:09]>> 60 Italians too many is 50.

[00:00:12]>> That's actually hilarious.

[00:00:14]>> If they're from the same state, I'm okay with 60 Italians.

[00:00:29]All right, welcome back to Macro doing.

[00:00:32]It is Thursday. It's April 30th and today's episode's brought to you by Noble. I have my Noble shoes on right now. Super comfortable shoes. They're a brand known for their best-in-class footwear and they're everywhere right now. Walking city to city at the airport, grabbing coffee. Wherever I go, I see Nobles. They've got so many great styles, a lot of great colors, and they just dropped their newest daily runner, the Journey 2. That's what I'm wearing right now. It's Noble's daily running shoe. It's got an emphasis on comfort, support, and dependability. Soft where you want it, structured where you need it. Take it outside. You can run. You can walk. The Journey, excuse me, the Journey Twos are made to move your way.

[00:01:10]Great for going for a walk, taking the dog out, going for a jog, hitting the road, just wearing around the office.

[00:01:18]Super comfortable shoes. They are the most comfortable shoes that I wear. Um, every morning I make a choice. what what sneakers I'm going to put on. And ever since I got the Journey Twos, that has been my choice. Exclusively for macro dosing listeners, Noble is offering 35% off your first order. No project.com.

[00:01:35]Use code macro. Get 35% off your entire first order. www.nopppro.com.

[00:01:43]Use code mac.com.

[00:01:50]Promo code macro. 35% off your entire order. All right, we're back. Welcome back to Macro doing. Uh, as I said, it is April 30th today, Thursday, and then we got birthday weekend coming up. Happy birthday to Mad Dog on Saturday.

[00:02:09]>> And then Big T on Monday.

[00:02:11]>> Undisclosed.

[00:02:12]>> Undisclosed day.

[00:02:13]>> Undisclosed day. Undisclosed day of generic celebration for Big T is coming up.

[00:02:19]>> It's not even any celebration. And it it just is >> acknowledgement.

[00:02:22]>> Yeah.

[00:02:22]>> Mhm. It's also happy bachelor party weekend to both of you as well.

[00:02:26]>> Yeah. Happy bachelor party big.

[00:02:27]>> No. Enjoy enjoy yours.

[00:02:30]>> I might I might you enjoy yours.

[00:02:32]>> It sounds fun.

[00:02:33]>> You know what's kind of wild that when you really think about it? How old are you big T right now?

[00:02:38]>> Uh I'm 28 right now. I'll be 29 on Monday.

[00:02:43]>> Yeah. So So you're not really 29. Like you're really 30, >> right? It's the end of your 29th year.

[00:02:51]>> That's kind of wild. Like whatever year you are, you actually a year older because we didn't start counting until a year after.

[00:02:58]>> Yeah. Your birthday comes at the end, not the beginning.

[00:03:00]>> She's just kind of wild. So like all those people, you know, dreading aging, you're already a year older than you think you are.

[00:03:08]>> Yeah. You've you've completed it more.

[00:03:10]>> Yeah. Big T, you are uh you've been here for 40 or for 30 years.

[00:03:16]>> Well, no, pretty much.

[00:03:19]29.

[00:03:20]>> Yeah. But pretty You're turning 29.

[00:03:22]>> Uhhuh. Because I've been here for 29 years. I was born 29 years ago.

[00:03:26]>> You were born 29 years ago. So you're almost going on to your 30th year, >> correct?

[00:03:31]>> Yeah. Almost.

[00:03:33]>> How you feeling about that?

[00:03:35]>> Fine.

[00:03:36]>> Mad Dog, how are you feeling?

[00:03:39]>> Um, >> you like birthdays?

[00:03:41]>> Yeah, I don't mind my birthday. I'm not like a huge like birthday like I'm gonna have a huge party person. I feel pretty indifferent about the age I'm turning.

[00:03:49]It doesn't really have a lot of juice behind it.

[00:03:52]>> I do one thing for my birthday every year. And I'm gonna I'm gonna let you in on this secret because I think it's uh it's important. So, I like a yellow cake with chocolate frosting. That's all I want for my birthday. I don't need presents or anything. I want a yellow cake with chocolate frosting. But here's what you do. You make it in a bunt pan and then you have full icing coverage on the entirety of the cake >> creates a much better cake experience.

[00:04:23]>> That's a genius idea.

[00:04:24]>> Yeah.

[00:04:25]>> And that's your favorite yellow cake.

[00:04:27]>> Yeah.

[00:04:27]>> Ooey gooey yellow like buttery.

[00:04:31]>> Just what? Yellow cake, man. I don't I don't know.

[00:04:33]>> No funfetti.

[00:04:35]>> No. No. No. No.

[00:04:36]>> And no no like swirls in the frosting or anything. Just chocolate. Just run the football.

[00:04:40]>> And see what I'm running into with these wedding cakes is they're like, "Okay, so you have eight layers of filling. What do you want?" I'm like, "Just make a cake. I don't I don't need to be involved in all this. I don't care. I I'm I'm at the point I'm just going to tell them, pick whatever you I'm not eating it. I don't care. Pick whatever you want."

[00:04:58]>> Yeah.

[00:05:00]>> So, by the way, these cake people, you wouldn't believe.

[00:05:07]I mean, >> do bakers. You mean bakers?

[00:05:09]>> I'm in charge of the cake.

[00:05:11]>> Yeah.

[00:05:12]>> Uh, these prices.

[00:05:14]>> Yeah. Crazy.

[00:05:15]>> You would not believe it.

[00:05:16]>> I've never been more correct on a take than when Big T got engaged and I said, >> "Just just wait, Big T.

[00:05:22]>> I mean, I told you that >> you're going to hate the next year."

[00:05:25]>> Do you uh like what do you think a wedding cake costs that feeds like 50 people?

[00:05:30]>> 50 person wedding cake. Uh like how many layers are we talking?

[00:05:35]>> I don't know. You want to call it three layers?

[00:05:37]>> It It's a They got a lot of layers in them. I don't know.

[00:05:40]>> I think I'm going to guess two grand.

[00:05:42]>> Oh, okay. Well, you're off. I mean, that's a that's an insane guess. Uh but it's I mean, it's half that.

[00:05:51]>> Yeah. It's not not that insane of a guess.

[00:05:55]>> They're but they're outrageous.

[00:05:57]>> Yeah.

[00:05:57]>> Um so I'm trying to figure that out.

[00:06:01]Um, BT, I also want to I want to pick your brain about something that came in the news yesterday for the most part.

[00:06:07]>> Um, I don't see it on the sheet, but I hope it's okay if we go off script a little bit.

[00:06:11]>> Oh, please do.

[00:06:12]>> Okay. The quarterback situation at Texas Tech.

[00:06:18]>> What What do you know about his expectations going into this season?

[00:06:23]Because I've heard that him like as a quarterback, incredible talent, great arm talent.

[00:06:29]I agree. I wanted him at Tennessee bad.

[00:06:31]>> Now, was he supposed to be one of the best quarterbacks in the country? And obviously, we can be wrong about those things coming year.

[00:06:37]>> Yeah. You look at like Clubnick and Nusmeire from last year, the expectations were >> well, anyone that believed in Kate Clubnick's a [ __ ] Uh, but yes, I would say he's supposed to be one of the five best quarterbacks in the country.

[00:06:49]>> Brendan Sorsby. And he uh he was at Cincinnati.

[00:06:53]>> Mhm.

[00:06:53]>> And he was at Indiana >> prior to that. Yes. prior to being at >> when they stunk and he red shirted.

[00:06:59]>> So, um the school made an announcement the other day that he was leaving Texas Tech to go enroll in treatment for gambling addiction.

[00:07:07]>> Yeah.

[00:07:07]>> Right.

[00:07:08]>> And now stories are starting to come out that he placed bets on his own teams when he was at Indiana.

[00:07:16]>> Yeah. I think in when he was at Indiana, he placed a couple bets on them to win games.

[00:07:20]>> Yeah. So, now there there are a bunch of questions that come out. Number one, if he does have a gambling addiction, um this is the right move for him to go seek treatment for it. And gambling addiction is real. And uh if you or someone you know is uh experiencing it, 100 gambler, there's also a chance that he is not addicted to gambling and he got caught gambling and this is the first step of a PR uh handling of the situation.

[00:07:45]>> They could both be true. They >> and they could both be true. And and you could also make the argument that if you are a highly touted college quarterback and you bet any amount of money on any amount of college games, you have a gambling problem because you're throwing away potentially your future for the short-term rush or or uh winnings of gambling on sports.

[00:08:07]>> It's reported he got about $5 million to play one season at Texas Tech this year.

[00:08:12]>> Right. So, if you throw that all away for like a a $100 parlay, you could make the argument like, "Yeah, you have a gambling problem. You risk $5 million of your own future."

[00:08:22]>> Talk about terrible odds.

[00:08:23]>> Bad odds. Bad odds on that one. Yeah.

[00:08:25]Uh, but >> could be just young, too, though, right?

[00:08:28]Could, you know, did he have a gambling problem or is like, "Hey, I got to try this [ __ ] out."

[00:08:33]>> I think there is a part of the report said he was betting like a dollar on pitches at a Cincinnati Reds game. I think that is certainly different than betting on your own games as a player. I think that's where it becomes >> and I would >> I've been shocked at the number of athletes this has happened to. If you would have asked me a couple years ago like I would have what percentage of collegiate athletes are gambling. I I I don't know what I would have said a pretty low number.

[00:09:02]>> Now I think it's >> gambling on anything. I think it's over 50%. You think over over 50 >> gambling on anything? Yeah. And I don't know. Are they allowed to bet on like professional sports? I don't know.

[00:09:14]>> I don't think so. I'm not sure. I don't know what the rules are.

[00:09:18]>> And then betting on college football, I think it's certainly smaller than that, but not an insignificant number.

[00:09:23]>> Yeah. I I don't know. I I feel like with the different algorithms different sports betting companies have, they they catch people that are doing it. Like I we've seen it in the NBA, we've seen it in uh the NFL where they will like lock in on geo fenced areas and they're like, "Yeah, we're getting bets from the Detroit Lions practice facility."

[00:09:47]Like they they did that a couple years ago. I I feel like the technology has gotten to the point where they catch a lot of people that are doing it. So if you're still doing it, it's very dumb and you should stop like immediately.

[00:10:00]Uh, the NCAA briefly allowed a rule in 2025 that would let players and staff bet on professional sports, but then rescended it.

[00:10:12]>> Okay.

[00:10:16]So, they can't bet on anything.

[00:10:20]>> I think that uh I think it's dumb if you do it. Now, is it a a g does he have a gambling addiction?

[00:10:29]He might. It he very well might. And that might might be why he's seeking treatment for it. But also, I feel like if you were to design a a PR response to a situation like this where you found out that you were going to get caught for something, step one is like, "Yeah, let's go."

[00:10:43]>> I would venture a guess this was done uh preemptively as a measure to see if there's a possibility that he can play right 26. And I think it regardless of uh the veracity of the claim of him having gambling addiction, and if he does, I hope he gets treatment for it.

[00:11:00]Um I don't think that they're going to let him play.

[00:11:05]>> I I don't see how they can given that he bet on a game in which his own team played >> and the the NCAA really they haven't had an enforcement arm in a while. And the enforcement arm that they do have is very weak. But I would suspect that if they ruled him ineligible for this year, I guess you could you could appeal that in court.

[00:11:25]But my guess would be that he would not end up playing at all this year.

[00:11:31]>> Uh tell me about the NFL supplemental draft.

[00:11:34]>> That's the other question.

[00:11:35]>> Does that happen every year or only if there are like people who want to be in it?

[00:11:40]>> Yeah. So um I'm not a supplemental draft expert.

[00:11:44]>> Well, you're a Shieldy.

[00:11:45]>> I am a Shieldy, but >> do you know Do you Did you see Shieldy?

[00:11:48]>> No. That's the new slur for guys who only watch the NFL.

[00:11:52]>> I love that. I love that.

[00:11:53]>> There was a tweet uh >> like Stephen Chay is a Shieldy.

[00:11:56]>> Yes. There was a This guy said they who were they talking about?

[00:12:02]Uh this guy said finally studying Leonard Moore. And someone said, "My favorite part is you saying finally about a 2027 prospect literally one day after the 26 NFL draft ended. My type of sicko." And then this guy responded, "You'd already know how good he is if you shieldies ever watched college football."

[00:12:19]>> That's beautiful. We've got a few shieldies around here.

[00:12:22]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:12:23]>> I'd say quite a few. Who's the number one shieldy at Barcel Sports?

[00:12:26]>> Chay. Chay doesn't like you. You You're aware of what's going on in college football.

[00:12:31]>> Who Who started the whole doesn't watch college? I wa I watch college football every Saturday from 11:00 a.m. until 11:00 p.m. Every Saturday in the fall.

[00:12:41]Every Saturday.

[00:12:41]>> You're not You're not locked in. Every Saturday I watch college football non-stop. Minimum two games at once.

[00:12:49]Sometimes four games at once.

[00:12:53]>> Um, who >> Well, I need to find who who the the ground where the ground zero of the >> name as many head coaches in the SEC as you can.

[00:13:03]>> Okay. Uh, are you are you fighting not watching CFB allegations?

[00:13:08]>> I'm fighting those allegations. Yes.

[00:13:10]Yes, I am. I'm fighting them very hard.

[00:13:12]>> Name the SEC.

[00:13:13]>> Okay, so let's let's see. Um, you've got Hyple at Tennessee.

[00:13:18]>> One, >> uh, you've got, and this is off seasonason, Dbor at Alabama, uh, Lane Kein LSU, Elco at&m, Steve Sarkeesian at uh, uh, Texas, >> get them off you, dog.

[00:13:33]>> Drinkwitz >> at uh, Missou. Um, uh, Florida hired, uh, Tulain.

[00:13:42][ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] Skipping my mind. The T lane head coach.

[00:13:47]>> I'm not giving you that.

[00:13:48]>> Mincy's best friend.

[00:13:49]>> You can come back to it.

[00:13:50]>> Okay. It was Billy Napier. Billy Napier left. Um, okay. Other school, uh, Kirby Smart, Georgia.

[00:13:57]Uh, Vandy's head I know Vy's head coach in season. I get >> Should be easy to say his name. Yeah, in in season I get this within a matter of two seconds, >> but that but that's what separates a shieldy >> offseason. My brain goes elsewhere, >> right?

[00:14:12]>> You're at seven out of 16.

[00:14:14]>> Okay. And then uh Auburn hired uh was it the head coach?

[00:14:18]>> Nope.

[00:14:20]>> Who did Auburn hire? I forget who. I mean, I know because I follow >> But you're also obsessed with the SEC.

[00:14:27]>> I mean, I could name you all the Big 10 coach. Ah, probably not all of them.

[00:14:30]>> But what do you call the opposite?

[00:14:32]Because like you don't really watch the NFL.

[00:14:34]>> Yeah. I mean, if if you want to come up with a slur for just CFB heads, that's fine. But so >> you're you're obsessed.

[00:14:40]>> Are you Are you low-key not a sports guy?

[00:14:42]>> You're obsessed with with boys.

[00:14:44]>> You'd much rather, >> buddy. These guys play till they're 28 now.

[00:14:47]>> Every Saturday you're like, "Time to see what the boys are up to."

[00:14:49]>> And you're obsessed with men.

[00:14:51]>> Yeah, I am obsessed with men.

[00:14:52]>> You're at seven, by the way. Is that Are you out?

[00:14:54]>> Um I'm trying to think what what schools I did not bring up.

[00:14:57]>> We're missing Arkansas, Mississippi State. Hey. Uh, uh, Arkansas.

[00:15:04]>> Wait, did they fire They did fire Pitman, right?

[00:15:08]>> Did they?

[00:15:12]>> They had to have fired Pitman.

[00:15:16]I'd be shocked if they didn't fire Pitman.

[00:15:17]>> I guess you tell me.

[00:15:19]>> But then who who took the Arkansas gig?

[00:15:24]>> [ __ ] I'll just say Pitman. They didn't fire.

[00:15:26]>> Yeah, that he's been fired.

[00:15:28]>> Okay. All right. I thought that he would be.

[00:15:29]>> So, so seven.

[00:15:30]>> Uh, well, let's see. What What other schools are we missing out on? Oh, >> I think we've established >> Mississippi State. I mean, >> what?

[00:15:37]>> You don't have to keep going. It's fine.

[00:15:38]>> Who's in Mississippi? The, uh, former defensive coordinator at Mississippi State, >> right?

[00:15:43]>> Uh, no.

[00:15:45]That guy's been long fired.

[00:15:49]>> I don't know Mississippi State. Sorry, Brian.

[00:15:51]>> So, we're missing Jeff Lebby at Mississippi State.

[00:15:54]>> Okay. Ryan Silverfield at Arkansas, the former Memphis head coach.

[00:15:58]>> Okay.

[00:15:59]>> Auburn hired Alex Golish from South Florida. That's right. Formerly Tennessee offensive coordinator.

[00:16:05]>> Uh the Florida coach from Tulain is John Sum.

[00:16:07]>> Sum. Yep. Okay.

[00:16:09]>> What?

[00:16:09]>> That one I should have gotten.

[00:16:10]>> Vandy is Clark Lee.

[00:16:12]>> Okay.

[00:16:13]>> Are we What other schools? Uh Oklahoma.

[00:16:16]>> Oh, Red Bibbles.

[00:16:18]>> Yes.

[00:16:19]>> Is that it? You got Missouri. Uh Kentucky.

[00:16:24]Uh, Kentucky is >> There's no chance he knows this.

[00:16:32]>> Well, I mean, I I would have gotten stoops.

[00:16:35]>> It's not him.

[00:16:36]>> I know it's not him. Give me the school he came from.

[00:16:40]>> I don't think I will.

[00:16:41]>> Cuz you don't know.

[00:16:42]>> He came from Oregon.

[00:16:43]>> Okay, there we go.

[00:16:46]Yeah, you're right. I don't know.

[00:16:47]>> Will Stein.

[00:16:48]>> Wilstein. Okay.

[00:16:49]>> Uh, South Carolina.

[00:16:51]Uh, South Carolina would be uh Beamer.

[00:16:57]>> Okay. If you didn't know that, that was going to be a problem.

[00:17:00]>> Beamer.

[00:17:00]>> Is that all of them? I think so.

[00:17:03]>> Can I pass a test, man?

[00:17:05]>> Seven out of 16.

[00:17:09]>> Wait, >> how much do you want?

[00:17:11]>> I would have I would have loved 12.

[00:17:13]South Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, um LSU, Oklahoma.

[00:17:22]>> You just naming schools.

[00:17:23]>> Texas.

[00:17:24]>> Texas A&M.

[00:17:26]>> He's name the ones you got.

[00:17:27]>> I'm naming the ones that I got.

[00:17:30]Missouri.

[00:17:33]>> Yeah, you got >> I'm at eight right now.

[00:17:35]>> You ended up with eight cuz you got uh or nine cuz you got Venibals and Beamer.

[00:17:40]Even though I had to name the schools for you.

[00:17:42]>> Well, that's fine. I knew the coaches.

[00:17:44]That the question was, do you know the coaches?

[00:17:46]>> Okay, that's fine.

[00:17:46]>> Nine out of 16. And there were there's some train. The one that I'll say I should have gotten without a doubt I should have gotten Summer.

[00:17:53]>> I knew Summerall. Um he was an OP all last year.

[00:17:57]>> So you did not you did not >> goish. I know Goalish, but I I had forgotten that he was hired by >> So you resent being called a Shieldy?

[00:18:05]>> I don't I'm not a Shieldy. No. I guess I think maybe the more I I push against it, maybe the more people will be likely to call me a shieldy.

[00:18:12]>> Like Chay is a thousand% a Shieldy. He doesn't know like >> he doesn't know who Arch Manning is.

[00:18:18]That hasn't crossed his radar yet. Maybe because of draft stuff. He Okay, he doesn't know Lenor Sers. He has no idea who Lenor Sers is.

[00:18:26]>> Um Chay's a shieldy.

[00:18:28]I've got some other people I'd call Shieldies, but it would cause it would cause a ruckus. I can't. But there there are other Shieldies. Mhm.

[00:18:40]>> Say one. Say one that would cause a ruckus. Just cause one ruckus.

[00:18:43]>> I can't >> cause one one ruckus.

[00:18:44]>> I can't do it.

[00:18:46]>> Who do you say Miss was again?

[00:18:48]>> Uh oh, we Pete Golding. We didn't say him.

[00:18:51]>> Pete Golding. That's right.

[00:18:53]>> Are they in this office or New York?

[00:18:56]>> Um, if I if I speak big trouble and I don't want to be in big trouble.

[00:19:00]>> Interesting.

[00:19:02]>> We have we have shieldies here. That's all.

[00:19:04]>> Someone important. And Jerry Jerry is a uh >> a self-avoued shieldy, >> but but he he knows it.

[00:19:10]>> Yeah.

[00:19:11]>> Jersey or Okonnell?

[00:19:13]>> Jersey.

[00:19:14]>> Uh Jack McCarthy Shieldy.

[00:19:19]>> I don't even know that he he would identify as that. I think he's just a >> he's not a sports guy.

[00:19:24]>> Watch sports when they're on while I'm drinking guy.

[00:19:27]>> He's a drinking guy.

[00:19:28]>> Yeah.

[00:19:28]>> Yeah, >> I would agree with that.

[00:19:30]>> He's a Corsy.

[00:19:32]Uh, Rico Bosco.

[00:19:36]>> Um, he watches college football.

[00:19:40]>> Okay. All right. That was a test.

[00:19:41]>> Yeah, >> that's a test.

[00:19:42]>> You pass.

[00:19:43]>> Is it someone on PFT's other podcast?

[00:19:46]>> No, I mean that Listen, you're >> Yeah. I mean, Hank is a >> This is a company of shieldies and that's fine.

[00:19:52]>> I wouldn't even say Hank's a shield.

[00:19:53]Hank's a psy.

[00:19:54]>> He only cares about the Patriots.

[00:19:59]>> Okay. I >> I will say I'm not I'm I've never made the claim that I'm as big a college football guy as as you.

[00:20:07]>> Well, when I called you a Shield, you tried to >> or Brandon Walker, >> talk about how much college football you watch.

[00:20:11]>> Well, I mean, clearly I'm not I'm not even close to on the same level as you or Brandon.

[00:20:15]>> Thank you.

[00:20:15]>> You guys are you guys are the top two, >> but to say like I don't watch college football, it's that that to me is a slur.

[00:20:24]>> I believe college football is on in your vicinity on Saturdays. I believe that >> every Saturday >> all fall.

[00:20:32]>> Sure.

[00:20:32]>> For 12 hours.

[00:20:34]>> Are you locked into it? I don't know. Do you have more than one screen on? I doubt it.

[00:20:39]>> I I do have more than one screen on.

[00:20:41]>> How many on a Saturday?

[00:20:43]>> Uh typically I got two screens going.

[00:20:45]>> Okay. Yeah.

[00:20:46]>> I mean two.

[00:20:47]>> And then I've got Well, on one of the screens I'll have multi- view.

[00:20:52]>> Okay. I mean that's fine.

[00:20:54]>> It is fine.

[00:20:55]I mean, I got seven TVs in here and then I pull up an iPad and a computer, >> right? You're locked in >> to make sure we're not missing anything.

[00:21:03]>> You're locked in.

[00:21:04]>> Yeah.

[00:21:04]>> Yeah.

[00:21:06]>> I love college football, man.

[00:21:07]>> All right. I'm glad we got >> We're almost in May. So, it's almost May, >> which means you really just have to get through like six weeks and then it's you can start doing previews.

[00:21:18]>> Yeah. You got to Yeah.

[00:21:20]>> So, we're almost there.

[00:21:21]>> I feel like it's like once your wedding's over, >> right? I was just thinking that. And then I go on a a twoe honeymoon and then once we're back from that, it's college football season.

[00:21:29]>> Mhm.

[00:21:32]>> Okay, we're almost there.

[00:21:33]>> Nearly there.

[00:21:35]>> More enjoy more enjoyable. Your honeymoon or the beginning of college football season?

[00:21:40]>> I do have a sick honeymoon planned. Uh so I feel like that that should be better. But there are some great games to open the year.

[00:21:49]I mean, what we've done, we week one now is uh I mean, we've got Let me see what we've got week one. I know week two there are some awesome games.

[00:22:00]I think week two Tennessee goes to Georgia Tech. I think there is uh Oklahoma Michigan again.

[00:22:06]Is Texas Ohio State also in week two? I don't know. Lot of great games. Uh but but I do have uh Hawaii's going to be sick. I've got a lot of good stuff planned in Hawaii.

[00:22:20]I'm excited for you, man. Thank you.

[00:22:22]>> Big T, to answer your question about the supplemental draft, I think they do have the draft every year because there's always somebody that could be eligible for it >> and but it's not like held on a on a single a single day.

[00:22:35]So, it it varies from year to year.

[00:22:40]They will have a supplemental draft this year and uh Swordsby could potentially put his name in there. And if he does, that means that he could be drafted just based on the uh the armed talent alone and that way he wouldn't even have to worry about going back to college and like getting ruled eligible.

[00:22:57]>> Now that this has happened, I can't believe this guy didn't go to Tennessee.

[00:23:01]This is the most Tennessee thing that's ever happened.

[00:23:03]>> Yeah, you dodged a bullet on this one.

[00:23:05]showed up. $5 million quarterback gambling.

[00:23:10]>> Do you know who the um maybe the biggest name? What What are any names? Can you name any names of any players that have been selected in the supplemental draft for the NFL?

[00:23:23]>> Was Maurice Clarrett in the supplemental draft?

[00:23:27]>> Uh Maurice Clarrett was not. He >> was in the third round. thought >> um I don't >> one of my favorite backs of all time.

[00:23:40]>> He was nasty >> college. One of my favorite college.

[00:23:43]>> Did he ever do anything in the NFL?

[00:23:45]>> He got drafted to Denver and never really panned out. Um I think I think he did okay, but it wasn't like his hype. There was some rumors at the time too when he went to the NFL that he was like in practice he might not have had water in his water bottle.

[00:24:07]>> Oh, really?

[00:24:08]>> Yeah. I I think he was credited with the phrase, >> I got to get my goose on.

[00:24:13]>> Oh, he never even played in the NFL. He was released in training camp.

[00:24:18]>> Really? Oh, damn. I didn't know he was released. I thought he played a little bit.

[00:24:22]>> Played for the Omaha Nighthawks.

[00:24:26]Damn, man.

[00:24:28]>> But yeah, no, I don't uh I've I hear of the supplemental draft every now and then, but I don't know anybody that's been >> Josh Gordon would be the big name I was thinking of. Yeah, >> Terrell Prior as well.

[00:24:43]>> That's right.

[00:24:44]>> After the uh tattoos >> ended up having a nice career.

[00:24:47]>> Yeah, really nice career.

[00:24:51]So, it looks like according to Wikipedia, which is quite reliable, um we haven't had a single player taken in the supplemental draft since 2019.

[00:25:04]>> Yeah, that's why I was saying like I don't even know that they have it every year.

[00:25:07]>> I think they do. They do like a a meeting or like a conference call and they just say, "Okay, first round.

[00:25:13]Anyone want to give a a first round pick for anybody?" Okay, anyone want to do a second round pick? Okay, third round.

[00:25:19]And then so it can be like a fivem minutee call sometimes.

[00:25:21]>> Is that how it works?

[00:25:22]>> Yeah, I think so. So you can give up a pick in maybe the next draft and it's like a a bidding process on each player.

[00:25:34]>> Interesting.

[00:25:34]>> Yeah. So yeah, it would be potentially an out for uh for Sorsby if he didn't want to try to return or if he felt that he was going to be suspended. try to go to the NFL and see if a team takes a flyer on you, which I feel like there there probably should be a team that should take a chance on him if the arm is that good. I've heard some people say he's got like a top 10 NFL arm right now.

[00:25:57]>> I think he's really good. But I don't know.

[00:26:02]>> He's got to play more football, too.

[00:26:04]What happened with your boy um what's his name? Uh Diego Rivera or whatever.

[00:26:10]Favia, >> the Heisman candidate.

[00:26:14]>> Yeah, he went undrafted and then didn't even >> How does that How does that happen? How does that happen? What happened?

[00:26:20]>> Uh he's like 5'8 and in in no position to play quarterback in the NFL.

[00:26:27]>> Okay. I didn't know he was 5'8.

[00:26:29]>> He he might be 5'10, but he I mean he's tiny. He's not He's >> 5'9. his arm is not they ran a very like he's a he was a talented runner and played their offense well in college football. He has no prospects of being an NFL quarterback. And then I think he didn't even sign like a UDFA contract.

[00:26:49]He just got an invite to the Ravens mini camp, but then they did sign him after the fact to an undrafted free agent.

[00:26:58]>> Yeah, he got a three-year deal with the Ravens. Have you seen that's the new thing that agents have these guys tweeting out is like, "Oh, they signed a three-year deal. All these guys are going to be released in two months."

[00:27:08]>> It could be it could be a oneweek deal, >> right?

[00:27:10]>> Yeah.

[00:27:11]>> But that's that's what they have them doing is Oh, they signed a three-year deal.

[00:27:15]>> Mhm.

[00:27:19]>> Yeah. Three years.

[00:27:20]>> Damn. They're doing Hold on.

[00:27:22]Undrafted dudes are doing three-year deals now.

[00:27:25]>> But I don't think it's really three years. You know how that >> I know. I mean, they can terminate it at any time, but when I signed my cuz I was undrafted. It's a two-year deal. They usually can't lock up dudes for that long.

[00:27:38]Cuz let's say let's say he balls. Three years is crazy to be making minimum if you balling out.

[00:27:46]>> True. So, it's actually a bad that's a really bad contract.

[00:27:50]>> It's horrible. Like, I I did a two-year deal and I won the NFL Russian title under undrafted. I was making league minimum and I led the league in touchdowns, rushing yards.

[00:28:02]>> Yeah.

[00:28:03]>> Allpurpose yards. Severely underpaid.

[00:28:06]>> Yeah, that's kind of crazy. So, if you're Pavia, even though it sounds like it sounds cool to say three-year deal, really, you would want a one-year deal.

[00:28:15]>> Yeah, usually do one year.

[00:28:17]>> If you get a one-year deal, because it's not like he's making any real money off the three. And it's not like there's any guaranteed money that comes from year two and year three. If they don't like you after like a week, they can cut you.

[00:28:27]>> Guys, I don't I don't think any of this is anything Diego Pavia needs to be worried about.

[00:28:32]>> Okay.

[00:28:32]>> I think >> we're just trying to trying to kick trying to take care of his upside. You know what I mean?

[00:28:36]>> Yeah. I think he will be going pro in something other than sports.

[00:28:39]>> Okay.

[00:28:40]>> I loved that commercial.

[00:28:42]>> Was that Enterprise?

[00:28:44]>> I don't know what it was, but >> I think it was Enterprise rental car.

[00:28:48]That was my like I used to tell people that tell them like you gonna go pro some other than sports though >> like during games >> games practice it don't matter I used to talk [ __ ] >> Yeah that was probably about that time I think it was enterprise and they were like we hire a bunch of former NCAA athletes was like >> going pro in something other than sports.

[00:29:12]>> What are what are the biggest companies that do that? Enterprise. Home Depot.

[00:29:17]That's mostly for like Olympics, too.

[00:29:20]>> I don't know. Are their companies known for hiring student athletes?

[00:29:24]>> I think those are the two big ones.

[00:29:28]>> Car dealerships everywhere.

[00:29:31]>> Yeah.

[00:29:33]Um, let's get to Big T sheet and then we're going to talk about Joover and the uh the FBI.

[00:29:40]>> It's a light sheet today because we we came in here early and we get we got a heart out.

[00:29:45]>> Uh, all right. So big T number one on the sheet. Uh Dallas has discovered lottery or sorry has discovered libraries.

[00:29:55]>> Yeah, they banned phones in schools and now they're uh the books checked out in the school libraries are up uh 24%.

[00:30:02]>> So from the first day of school to March 31st, the district the district reported an increase of more than 200,000 additional books checked out compared to the previous year.

[00:30:14]So, it seems like banning phones is working or at least having some good side effects.

[00:30:20]>> Yeah, >> I like it. Do Do you agree that more places should do the masters thing?

[00:30:26]>> Just lock phones out >> in school. Yeah.

[00:30:29]>> What about just places?

[00:30:32]>> I mean, if a private business wants to do that, the people the market will decide if that's a good idea or not.

[00:30:37]>> That's what I'm saying. But would you would your own personal market decide if it was a good idea?

[00:30:43]What?

[00:30:45]>> You got to take it there, bro.

[00:30:46]>> No, I mean I'm like if you want to do that, that's great, but then people might not want to go to your place.

[00:30:51]>> Correct. I'm wondering if you think your your own personal big tea market >> in order to to not be able to carry my cell phone somewhere. It would need to be something as awesome as the Masters.

[00:31:03]>> Okay. What about not many exist?

[00:31:06]>> Going to a movie. phone lockers or or they give you the bag at the when you walk into the theater.

[00:31:13]>> No, >> they're already struggling. They're already struggling for customers anyway.

[00:31:19]>> I think you can only do that if you have an exclusive event that no matter what [ __ ] want to come to.

[00:31:27]>> Yeah.

[00:31:27]>> Now, I do go the theater I go to uh it's called Alamo Draft House. You ever been there?

[00:31:33]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:31:34]>> Their whole thing is like if you pull your phone out, we'll kill you. Yeah.

[00:31:37]>> So, they are very strict on it, but I mean I want to have it on me in case, you know, it makes sense.

[00:31:46]>> But I mean, they they five times before the movie starts, they're like, "If you pull out your phone, we will see it and we will kick you out."

[00:31:53]>> What about nice restaurant?

[00:31:56]again. Like it's fine if you tell people don't have it out, >> but taking it if if you're taking it, it's got to be >> something cool.

[00:32:06]>> Not taking it, but you're not allowed to have it out. Like if you take your phone out at the table, the manager will stop by and we'll say, "Sir, put that away."

[00:32:15]>> And but see, I have a problem with authority because I think that's probably a good idea.

[00:32:20]>> But I don't want you telling me.

[00:32:21]>> But if you're going to this restaurant, you're not on their own. opting in to >> I understand. That's why I probably wouldn't go.

[00:32:27]>> You probably wouldn't. Okay. So, that's the market. That's the big T market.

[00:32:30]>> Like, and I think that's a great idea.

[00:32:31]Go to dinner with your wife, whatever, and have no phones.

[00:32:34]>> Yeah.

[00:32:34]>> But that's You can't tell me.

[00:32:37]>> Mhm. What about the here's the the movie gore stats if you guys are interested.

[00:32:42]Adults under 50 are more likely to attend with twothirds of those aged 18 to 29 attending in the past year compared to only 39% of those 65 and older. Income upper income Americans have the highest attendance rate, 64% compared to lower income adults, 43%.

[00:33:01]Which makes sense because it should be expect like the it be the food. That's how you get people to stay is the is the food. Uh, ethnicity.

[00:33:09]Hispanic adults 59% reported the highest attendance followed by white 53 and black 49.

[00:33:16]We [ __ ] up.

[00:33:19]>> Are you a movie guy?

[00:33:21]>> I am actually. I do be going. Um, I I feel like it's it's like the last little bit of my youth that I'm trying to cling to. It just it feels good when something's when a dope movie comes out to, you know, go see it. Go see it on the big screen.

[00:33:37]>> I'm surprised that younger people go more than old people.

[00:33:41]>> Yeah, that that was surprising.

[00:33:42]>> Feel like old people love movies.

[00:33:45]>> I think streaming is just the convenience of it is just >> Well, that's but that's another reason like more young people stream stuff. So, I would think they don't go to the theater as often, >> right? I don't know. I don't I don't know what the sample size is as well.

[00:33:57]This is a Pew Research poll. Actually, >> I enjoy a nice theater, but I I I can't go to one that just has that was like it is in 2005 with the stadium seating. It's got to have recliners.

[00:34:13]>> Yeah.

[00:34:14]>> Got to have like good food.

[00:34:16]>> Mhm.

[00:34:17]>> But in that situation, I like a theater.

[00:34:20]>> And I always bring a burner, too. I I be nervous. Colorado got me.

[00:34:24]>> Don't say that.

[00:34:25]>> I get nervous. I don't go to the movies like that because I get nervous. I do not have um >> something to bring with me like that.

[00:34:32]But I I can't I can't do movies very often because I get so anxious.

[00:34:37]>> I don't I don't trust that [ __ ] cuz like I it be a regular worker like he just be walking in bringing somebody food. I'm like, "What's this [ __ ] Like what's up with this dude?"

[00:34:44]>> I am I am hyper aware in movie theaters and it kind of bugs me out sometimes.

[00:34:49]>> Yeah. But when you got the burner though, like it it make you feel a little bit better. It's your it's second amendment right. I don't think you can bring it in the movie theaters, but >> correct.

[00:34:58]>> But then you >> then your movie experience is like ruined because you're worried about a mass shooting happening.

[00:35:06]>> I already am worried about a mass shooting. I just know that now I got the burner.

[00:35:10]>> Okay. But I don't >> less likely. Well, you gota you gota you got to get you one. Got to get you some action.

[00:35:17]>> I don't think I need I need all that >> until you do. It's old saying rather be caught with it than caught without one.

[00:35:25]Facts.

[00:35:25]>> I don't I don't think Mad Dog is the one that needs to I don't think you guys need me with that. But I get so nervous and like movie theaters are >> shoot an unsuspecting.

[00:35:35]>> Yeah. I don't think I don't think we need that myself on accident.

[00:35:39]>> Yeah. Like I don't think I'm equipped.

[00:35:42]>> There is one gun you manufacture that that might happen. But >> yeah, but >> what's this? Uh there there's a SIG gun that uh has had some issues firing on its own.

[00:35:56]>> Oh, really? I didn't notice.

[00:35:57]>> Yeah, the it's the P320. If you look it up, there's uh there are several reported incidents of the gun firing without the trigger being pulled.

[00:36:09]>> P320.

[00:36:10]>> And doesn't it have like a a hair trigger on it too? Like if you just touch it, like it's such a light amount of pressure that's required to shoot.

[00:36:18]>> No, it's just uh I believe the trigger is flat on it, but it's uh most people didn't believe it until I think recently there was a guy in the Air Force that had it happened to.

[00:36:31]>> Mhm.

[00:36:31]>> And then people were like, "Well, he probably knows what he's doing with a firearm." So >> So yeah, probably.

[00:36:36]>> It seems like there might be some sort of issue.

[00:36:37]>> That'd be the one thing that if you're designing a gun, you probably want to you'd want to test, right? Yeah, I would say that would be probably number one on my list is that it only fires when I tell it to.

[00:36:48]>> Yeah, that's the kind of the point of having a gun. You don't want a gun that goes rogue, >> right?

[00:36:52]>> Yeah.

[00:36:53]>> I'm not like a super libid when it comes to guns. Like, it's whatever. I don't think we should have them, but if we got them, we got them. I ain't tripping.

[00:37:01]>> Uh, but there was a gun I saw the other day that I was like, "Come on, though.

[00:37:04]Who the [ __ ] needs this?" It was a It was a a shotgun. That's like >> This mate's about to sick as [ __ ] You said what?

[00:37:12]>> Nothing. I said this means it's about to be sick as [ __ ] >> bro. It was a shotgun that you just hold a trigger and go. Who the [ __ ] needs that? Like, nobody needs that. That's ridiculous. That's crazy. Who needs What is it? Semi-automatic.

[00:37:27]>> Well, no. That would be automatic.

[00:37:29]>> That would be automatic. Automatic. Is that automatic shotgun, dog? That's crazy.

[00:37:32]>> Is that legal? It can't be.

[00:37:34]>> I don't know. I don't know, man. It was stupid. I was like, "Yo, nobody needs this [ __ ] man. Get the [ __ ] out of here."

[00:37:41]And now that I'm thinking about it, it could be AI, but that [ __ ] would be crazy.

[00:37:44]>> Fully automatic shotguns are legal in the US, but are heavily restricted as machine guns under the National Firearms Act. Ownership requires ATF approval, a $200 tax stamp, and registration.

[00:37:56]And they have to be made before May 19th, 1986.

[00:38:00]>> Like, you don't need that, dog. Nobody needs that.

[00:38:05][ __ ] was wild.

[00:38:06]>> I don't know if I've ever seen an automatic shotgun.

[00:38:11]Was it AI? Did you get AIDed?

[00:38:14]>> I don't There's no way. It was It was like weeks ago when I saw it. I don't There's no >> I don't think I don't think so.

[00:38:22]>> It says they exist. I' I've just never seen one.

[00:38:24]>> Yeah, it it didn't trigger my radar didn't go up, you know? So, I'm pretty I'm pretty keen. I ain't I ain't I ain't boomer when it comes to the internet.

[00:38:31]I'm pretty savvy.

[00:38:32]>> I got got by one the other day. Well, I don't think it was AI. I think it was just an edited video.

[00:38:38]>> Yeah. But it was this uh freshman in high school quarterback who was just throwing the the most perfect ball you've ever seen. Did you see that?

[00:38:46]>> A lot of people got caught by that.

[00:38:47]Yeah.

[00:38:48]>> Yeah.

[00:38:48]>> And uh and it I don't know. I guess it they were cutting after the throw and then putting in something. I don't know.

[00:38:54]But it was not 100%.

[00:38:56]>> It was computerenhanced. Yeah.

[00:38:57]>> The zooms were too perfect on the ball like right as the ball jumped out of his hand.

[00:39:01]>> Yeah.

[00:39:04]>> Everyone gets Scott though. It happens.

[00:39:05]>> I mean it's only going to get worse. Uh Arian, I've got some uh some shocking news for you.

[00:39:13]>> Lay it on me, big dog.

[00:39:14]>> You and uh and Jack Pobiac.

[00:39:19]>> Share a brain. You guys share a brain.

[00:39:21]>> I'm fascinated to hear what this is.

[00:39:23]>> You guys are in lock step about a take.

[00:39:25]Yeah.

[00:39:26]>> What could this be?

[00:39:28]>> I have no idea.

[00:39:30]>> Who is this cat? I don't I don't know who this is.

[00:39:32]>> Rightwing guy.

[00:39:34]He's a big pizzagate guy. He's a guy with whom I can't imagine you share any opinion. So, I'm fascinated to know what this is.

[00:39:42]>> One one of our nation's largest uh culture war enthusiasts.

[00:39:46]>> Oh, >> okay. So, right-wing pundit. Okay. Lay it on me.

[00:39:50]>> Michael Jackson was the only one Hollywood called a pedto because he was the only one who wasn't.

[00:39:56]>> Whoa.

[00:39:56]>> Wow.

[00:39:57]>> Jack Pobiac.

[00:39:59]Aren Foster broken broke broken clocks right twice a day, dog.

[00:40:06]I will I will I will go to town with anybody who wants to debate me on Michael Jackson. Anybody, dog. I believe.

[00:40:12]>> Have you seen the new movie?

[00:40:14]>> I have not. My kids um my kids are uh hounding me about it. We probably going to go this weekend.

[00:40:20]>> It's supposed to be terrible.

[00:40:22]>> Really?

[00:40:22]>> Yeah.

[00:40:23]>> I haven't heard many good things.

[00:40:24]>> I mean I mean I mean there there just aren't many good bobbics. The only really good biopic that I really I was like, "Hey yo, was no two, I'm sorry, there's two. Malcolm X, that [ __ ] was crazy dope with Denzel >> and then Ray Ray Ray Charles with with uh with Jimmy Fox. That [ __ ] them two were like unreal.

[00:40:47]Amazingly done. The acting was incredible. The script was dope.

[00:40:52]Everything was fire. Uh other than that, they've all been kind of meh. All of them. All of them are kind of whack. So, I'm not expecting too much. Uh my daughter, my oldest daughter did go see it with her home girls and um she text me like she he really was the goat. I'm like, absolutely he was.

[00:41:10]>> Michael is a very bad movie with very good music that Antoine Fukqua deploys to disguise the fact that Michael is a very bad movie.

[00:41:19]>> It's fine. I'm not I'm not expecting much. I I know everything about him already, so I ain't gonna find out nothing. I I don't know. So, yeah, shout out to that right-wing dude for for for seeing the truth, seeing the light. Yeah.

[00:41:34]>> There's also another big there's a big debate going on um amongst the right regarding a movie that's coming out on uh on May 1st, actually this weekend.

[00:41:45]>> What it is? Oh, >> it's Animal Farm.

[00:41:48]>> Oh.

[00:41:49]>> Animated version of Animal Farm is coming up.

[00:41:52]>> Yeah. Yeah. the the the literary classic written by George Orwell comes out on Friday.

[00:41:58]>> They [ __ ] love that guy.

[00:41:59]>> It debuted >> so Orwellian.

[00:42:02]>> It debuted back in uh June 2025 and they finally found a distribution partner and the the partner that's distributing it has tried to engage sever several people on the right to uh to do advertising for the film. And um some have said yes, some have said no. I saw Riley Gaines tweeted out about it yesterday, uh, saying it's a a great film with a great message about how Marxism will never win. And, uh, then Tim Pool is very woke to what what Riley Gaines is saying about it and he's upset with her that she's taking money from the studio and in fact this is uh the the new Animal Farm is a revisionist piece of uh of leftist garbage. So there's there's a lot of discussion, a lot of really thoughtprovoking discussion and debate going on amongst the influencers uh trying to figure out exactly whether or not Animal Farm is woke or not.

[00:42:57]>> Um I to be honest that's great promotion for them. I I did not know that Animal Farm was coming out this weekend until I saw them talking about it.

[00:43:06]>> You know you know what else is not to not to derail your your point but >> a classic in our time Lord of the Flies.

[00:43:14]A remake of Lord of the Flies is coming out on Netflix.

[00:43:16]>> Oh, no way.

[00:43:18]>> Yeah.

[00:43:18]>> Who's in it? Do you know?

[00:43:20]>> Bunch of little kids, dog. I don't know them [ __ ] I'm looking at the cast of Animal Farm.

[00:43:28]It's pretty good cast, actually. So, Seth Rogan plays Napoleon.

[00:43:32]We've got Kieran Caulkin, >> uh, who plays, uh, Squealer. Glen Close is in it. Steve Bushimi, Leverne Cox, >> was the pig. if I if my memory serves me correctly.

[00:43:46]>> Yep. Woody Harelson.

[00:43:50]Uh yeah, good cast.

[00:43:53]>> Antiaaxer, but I love Woody.

[00:43:56]>> Me, too. I love that guy. But yeah, people are are debating about what the um what the message of Animal Farm was and whether or not the new adaptation stays true to that or if it um evolves into uh political commentary. If they if they made George Orwell get political, >> there's no way to say that.

[00:44:17]>> There's probably no person in American literary history that's as political as George Orwell.

[00:44:24]>> The man the man the man went overseas to fight in the Spanish Civil War out of conviction.

[00:44:32]>> Like that's pretty [ __ ] political.

[00:44:35]>> All of his [ __ ] was political.

[00:44:37]>> Very political. That's like that's all he wrote about. Especially after he got back.

[00:44:42]>> Comedy.

[00:44:43]>> Yeah, Orwellian is a cool word, though.

[00:44:45]I I always I I think about that like if it wasn't so cool sounding to say stuff was Orwellian, would people say it?

[00:44:54]I think they'd probably just say dystopian instead, but Orwellian sounds like Yeah, it sounds way cooler.

[00:45:00]>> It's going to be interesting. The the remake. I'm gonna watch it.

[00:45:04]>> Lord of the Flies.

[00:45:06]>> No, I was talking about the Animal Farm.

[00:45:08]>> Animal Farm. Yeah. Well, it's out this weekend.

[00:45:11]>> I'm >> Has that been a movie before?

[00:45:14]>> I'm sure they probably tried to make it into a movie. Not that I seen it, but >> Yeah, absolutely. Um, it was like a um I think it was like a little not animated, but like they they had like live action like animals, but it was like fake, of course, obviously, but like it was it was like a real one. If I think so. Let me see.

[00:45:41]See, there's one from 1954.

[00:45:44]>> Did they did a liveaction animal farm in 1950? I got to see that. That was probably trash.

[00:45:49]>> It's a cartoon.

[00:45:50]>> Oh, I was thinking it was like Mr. Ed.

[00:45:56]>> No.

[00:46:00]Yeah.

[00:46:02]When was the book?

[00:46:04]>> 1999.

[00:46:06]Yep.

[00:46:08]That's what I thought.

[00:46:12]Napoleon. Napoleon.

[00:46:15]Yeah. When that the book came out >> 1945.

[00:46:18]>> 45.

[00:46:21]>> Didn't know it was that old.

[00:46:22]>> Oh yeah.

[00:46:24]One of the one of our greatest allegorories.

[00:46:28]Uh today's episode of Macro doing brought to you by Shady Rays. Quick question. How do these shady rays look the same? T look >> big T. How do they look on you?

[00:46:39]>> Aggressive. Assertive.

[00:46:42]>> You look ready.

[00:46:43]>> Two adjectives I would like to be described as.

[00:46:45]>> You look ready for the summertime. Uh the quality is super high on the shady race. I've got another pair right here.

[00:46:52]>> Just as high as the quality $200 sunglasses I used to buy. U but I'm not exaggerating. They do feel every bit as quality as solid as the big dogs out there on the market. Now Shady Rays is one of the big dogs. Like I said, I spent hundreds of bucks on Shady Rays the other week. Stocked up for the summertime. I'm excited. I've got some great shades. The crazy part, they're premium shades and they also have the best replacement guarantee in the business. If you drop them in the ocean, if you lose them off the dock, if you sit on them, if they break, if you just leave them on a plane, if you leave them in a car, uh Shady Rays will replace them for you. Even if you break them day one, they're going to replace them. If you're outside, you need shades that actually perform. Go to shady rays.com.

[00:47:36]Grab a pair. Get sunglasses that have the best lost and broken protection in the biz. We've teamed up with Shady Rays to bring you an exclusive offer. Go to shadyrays.com. Use code macro. 40% off two or more polarized sunglasses. Try for yourself the shades rated five stars by over 300,000 people with Shady Rays.

[00:47:56]Great sunglasses.

[00:47:58]I I truly wear Shady Rays every single day. Uh absolutely love them. I think you will, too. I spend my money on them.

[00:48:05]That's the highest compliment I can give to to a brand out there. Check it out.

[00:48:11]All right, we're back. Do we want to jump into uh some Jay Edgar or is there anything else? Aaron, you got anything on your on your mind?

[00:48:20]>> Uh I almost quit golf again yesterday.

[00:48:22]>> Oh no. What happened?

[00:48:25]>> I was playing at probably my favorite course in Houston. It's called locking bar and I'm [ __ ] rolling dog.

[00:48:33]Rolling. I'm two over through nine, right? Mhm. So, I was about to have a a nice And mind you, we play for the tips. This is a hard course. It's a good course. Like, I'm moving. I'm like 70 in sight again.

[00:48:51]End up getting a double. That's fine. I can rebound. I end up getting a double.

[00:48:55]So I So I shoot 40 on the on the front nine, right? Which is I'm in line for 80, which is that'll be a good It'll be a good day.

[00:49:05]And then the next hole I go double triple bogey. And it's just so [ __ ] like [ __ ] this game, dog. Like [ __ ] this game. Like I almost almost quit. I held it together. I kept my composure. shoot 84, which is a good score, but it's just this game is just what the [ __ ] >> You'll never quit though.

[00:49:28]>> I know, dog. It's I'm in an abusive relationship, dog. And I love her.

[00:49:33]>> You'll be playing this [ __ ] for 40 years.

[00:49:36]>> I know. I know. And she going to be my ass. And I'm going to tell her it's it it's it's me. It's not her.

[00:49:42]>> I played with a guy last summer, just a random guy. I I forget exactly how old he was in his 80s and uh and the one of the other guys that we were playing with was like, "Yeah, he broke his back last year and he's not supposed to be playing golf and his his wife doesn't know, but he comes out here still like four times a week >> and she thinks he's somewhere else."

[00:50:04]>> I love that. Yeah, that is amazing. That was amazing. Yeah, man. It's just one of them one of them games, dog. But I seriously thought I had seven pars in a row. That was my record.

[00:50:16]>> I was balling.

[00:50:18]Everything was working and then all of a sudden it just stopped. You just you ever just lose your swing thought in the middle of the round like what the [ __ ] was that? Yeah. Just >> I don't know. Nonetheless, >> I have a tea time today.

[00:50:31]>> There you go. And you'll go out there.

[00:50:32]You'll you'll hit that shot and you'll be back. Yeah, I'll be back.

[00:50:37]You'll be so back.

[00:50:37]>> How many days a week do you play?

[00:50:40]Uh, weather permitting.

[00:50:42]>> Yeah.

[00:50:43]>> Every f every [ __ ] day.

[00:50:45]>> Love it.

[00:50:46]>> Every [ __ ] day. Like if I don't got something going on with my kids and stuff. Um, really excited. Uh, my my son locked in. Uh, this is my oldest son.

[00:50:56]He's uh going to turn 13 in like seven days. Um, he's like, "Hey, I need to come live with you for three months straight." like no going back and forth cuz he wants to train for basketball.

[00:51:11]Like he wants to lock the [ __ ] in. I'm like, there you go. Now you getting it.

[00:51:16]I love it. It's There's nothing better when your kids choose that. Um not for like, you know, he loves his mom. Okay.

[00:51:22]But he just knows like, yo, I got to lock the [ __ ] in. And I'm excited for that. So like I'm going take like three months and we going like I'm going really train him like the [ __ ] that my dad put me through. It's going to be fun. I'm excited about that. It's like a little project really far.

[00:51:40]>> Well, good luck. I hope that you go you go out there and you first hole immediately you're like I'm back. First shot.

[00:51:48]>> Oh, I mean I'm back right now. I'm just I'm never I'm never going to quit this stupid [ __ ] game. But I almost be like it's really just like am I going to throw a club in the in the water today or not? Is basically what it is.

[00:51:59]>> Yeah. The good thing is though my putting has been unreal lately. Like I'm [ __ ] I'm I'm locked in. Like I'm I'm I haven't three putt in like two three rounds. Like it's it's getting scary with the putter. It's just right now my short game aside from putting is just killing me right now.

[00:52:17]>> Like my short game is my regular short game. I'm cracking 70 every time I go out there. I mean so I'm cracking 80 every time I go out there. But it's like I just I just do stupid [ __ ] I'll duff it all. It's just I don't know. I'm gonna figure this [ __ ] out though. Maybe not.

[00:52:31]>> Yeah. But why is it that sometimes you go out there and you just you like your your short game has been really good, but then one day you just hit everything thin.

[00:52:42]I don't know about thin thin, that's a low point issue. But for me, why my [ __ ] don't it's because I'll be in between swing thoughts for everything else. And they're all different. They're different shots. Your driver is different than your your uh uh your woods and your hybrids. those woods and hybrids are different than your irons.

[00:53:02]Your irons are different than your wedges. They're all different shots. And so like like sometimes like when you correct something and you start hitting that good, that [ __ ] with the other thing >> and you have to go back to how you was doing that, but that might [ __ ] with the thing that you just corrected. It's just a lot of a lot of different [ __ ] like my sand uh out of the bunker >> has been costing me. But yesterday I spent about an hour and a half after the round to correct it and I did and now I feel like I'm very confident out of it.

[00:53:29]We'll see what that [ __ ] up today though. You know >> I do find that on the days where everything else is broken but my short game is really good. I I typically shoot like not bad a pretty average round.

[00:53:43]It's the it's it's the if I was to like if somebody was like starting out golf, I would that's the advice I would give them. Get your short game. Just work on your short game. That [ __ ] is the difference between >> like a 95 and a 85. Dead ass. Like it could it will change your round. Short game is everything. Everybody wants to work on the drives and I get it. But >> short game will change your your your golf game.

[00:54:12]All right, you guys want to talk about Jay Edgar and the feds? The FBI?

[00:54:19]>> Alphabet boys.

[00:54:20]>> Alphabet. The Gmen.

[00:54:23]That's what they called them back in the day. FBI agents.

[00:54:26]>> Really?

[00:54:26]>> They called him the Gmen. Yeah, because they they were like super cleancut and uh there was like a certain type of person. I guess you could compare him to uh was it Mr. Anderson in the Matrix movies?

[00:54:39]>> You know, I haven't seen seen [ __ ] >> But yeah, like you know, clean cut, shaven, short hair, buttoned up, goody two shoes kind of guys. They were called the Gmen.

[00:54:52]And that was uh that was Jake Garoover's preferred type of dude that he would hire. But Hoover worked for uh for the predecessor to the FBI uh the Bureau of Investigations.

[00:55:06]and uh he worked for them going back actually to World War I. So people were getting drafted and going overseas and fighting. He had a uh a family to take care of. Um he was like the bread winner even as like a younger kid in his family. Um so he decided to get a government job because if you got a government job back then you were uh you didn't have to go into the draft and didn't go have have to go into the service. So, uh, he started working for the Bureau of Investigation, and he had like a, uh, I I I don't know if you call it like survivors guilt, but he was always compensating for not having been in World War I when everybody else had to go over there. So, he decided to make the Bureau of Investigations almost like like he was going to make it almost like a branch of the military. Like, he would do a bunch of armed raids and um, they would be structured very similar to the military. and it was his way of kind of coping for the fact that he did not go serve in uh in the great war as they called it at the time. So, um he was named head of the entire agency in 1924 and he was 29 and then it got changed to being the FBI in 1935 and he was the first director of uh of the FBI and he uh a controversial guy.

[00:56:28]He he started uh a lot of the programs that they use to this day. Like some good stuff and some bad stuff. So like you want to do good stuff first or bad stuff first?

[00:56:37]>> Good. Because quicker.

[00:56:39]>> Yeah. The good news is probably quicker.

[00:56:41]That's fair. Um so he he started like the national fingerprint registry and he uh he made like a central depository for like um different types of crimes learning about different motives and uh and ways that different crimes were committed so that there was a central place people could study they could gather data and figure out how to better >> what do you feel about that >> about a national fingerprint registry?

[00:57:09]>> Yeah. Well, so you you're not in it until you do something where you have to be, right?

[00:57:15]>> Uh yeah.

[00:57:17]>> So, or if you you know, there are some people that are unfairly arrested for things and I >> Well, hold on. Don't you have to do it when you get your driver's license?

[00:57:28]>> I don't think that goes to the FBI, though.

[00:57:29]>> I don't think so.

[00:57:30]>> I didn't I don't think I had to give my fingerprint when I got my license.

[00:57:33]>> Am I tripping? I think you only get put in it if you get arrested or you take a job that requires it.

[00:57:42]Um I'm not sure on all the >> I think it's everyone that gets arrested, >> but it's more than that too. I think I think there are some jobs.

[00:57:51]>> So some some states do some states do.

[00:57:53]That is a state state thing. te in Texas. You do >> interesting, but there are plenty of people who aren't in it. Um, so I don't know. I I mean, if you get arrested, I guess it makes sense that they would need your fingerprints.

[00:58:17]>> Although I would be fine >> saving that for if you get convicted of a crime.

[00:58:23]>> Yeah. But that's not the case. If you get if you get arrested, they fingerprint you. That goes to the FBI. I also think if you get if you like buy a firearm and like you have to give your fingerprints for it for background check, I think that goes to the FBI in case you uh in case they find evidence down the line that you've that there's uh fingerprints on a gun or something like that.

[00:58:47]I don't know that you have to do that.

[00:58:53]You do not have to provide fingerprints to buy a gun. In most of the US, >> what about the states that you do, though?

[00:59:00]>> Fingerprints are required for specific items like machine guns or in states with strict licensing such as Illinois for FOY renewals, certain applications, and some New Jersey permits.

[00:59:11]>> Yes. So, I wonder how much of that is shared with the FBI then.

[00:59:14]>> I'm sure all of it.

[00:59:18]But yeah, so they they have a the the largest collection of fingerprints in the United States. So if uh if they get brought in to help investigate a crime, they're typically the ones that would be able to to do the best in terms of matching up prints. Um they've got a national forensic laboratory, too. So when you hear like local police departments be like, "We need more resources. We're calling in the FBI."

[00:59:40]That means that they they bring in those highly trained hopefully uh federal agents to help the smaller ones assist with their uh the investigation.

[00:59:50]Um so I guess I think that's a good thing, right? I think it's I think it's good to have people that in theory should be better at tracking down criminals.

[01:00:06]I don't know how I feel about that actually. Think about it.

[01:00:10]They still haven't found that kidnapper in Arizona yet.

[01:00:14]>> What kidnapper? Nancy Guthrie.

[01:00:16]>> Nancy Guthrie. Yeah.

[01:00:19]>> I don't remember this story.

[01:00:22]>> The uh the host of the Today Show, her mom.

[01:00:26]>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They they that's still open.

[01:00:30]>> Brother, they got nothing.

[01:00:35]>> It's kind of morbidly fascinating. Was she dead now then? She got to be dead now.

[01:00:40]>> She's been dead the whole time.

[01:00:42]>> But they don't know where she is, who took her, >> anything.

[01:00:47]And it happened in January.

[01:00:49]>> Yeah. Okay. Now remember, >> and they have ring camera footage.

[01:00:55]>> Well, he's wearing a mask, right?

[01:00:56]>> But still, they have something.

[01:00:58]>> Kidnapping old ladies is crazy work.

[01:01:00]Like it's >> I mean I mean kidnapping anybody's pretty crazy but like old people like yo I'm going to take this 80-year-old like what that [ __ ] is wild dog though.

[01:01:12]>> If you think about it though I think the only way you can get away with a a crime these days is if it's just totally random like someone you've never met before >> that you have no connection to and you just randomly go now. And even then I I have to imagine it's remarkably difficult. But so like kidnapping an old woman and like robbing her I guess in a way does seem like something that if you were to get away with something like if they don't have if they have no idea who it is like you know it's not somebody that knew her or anything >> and you're not advocating for this clearly.

[01:01:51]>> Of course not.

[01:01:52]>> Yeah.

[01:01:55]just sounded really like >> No, I'm just like if you if you kill someone you know, they're going to find you in a >> which are most murders are proximity and uh >> uh somebody you know usually the case, >> right?

[01:02:09]>> Yeah.

[01:02:10]>> Shout out to uh Mama Mama Girthy.

[01:02:13]Girthy.

[01:02:14]>> I just I I don't think I I don't think it's possible to get away with too many crimes if you know the person at all.

[01:02:21]And even let's say this person didn't know the grandma.

[01:02:25]So many different like red light cameras, toll booth cameras, license plate readers, uh neighbors, ring cameras, like cell phone evidence. There's just so much stuff that they have to have, right? I have no idea how how anyone can get away with it for this long.

[01:02:44]That's that's another thing. A lot of these murderers, they be keeping their phones on them and they can ping you, doggy.

[01:02:51]>> So if you if you are Big T, if you are to murder somebody, stop, >> make sure make sure you don't know them and make sure you don't have your phone on you.

[01:03:00]>> I can't go to jail. I could never.

[01:03:03]>> Even if you turn your phone off, they can use that as evidence, too.

[01:03:07]>> Just leave it on and keep it in the house.

[01:03:08]>> Yeah, they they were uh Wasn't that one of the ones in the the Idaho murders?

[01:03:13]Like he turned his phone off I think the night of the murder.

[01:03:16]>> I thought they had him close like they >> Man's went zero dark 30.

[01:03:20]>> Yeah, they did. They had him close and then I think he turned his phone off.

[01:03:25]>> And they they can use that as evidence if there's like a pattern. The only time that you've turned your phone off is like at the exact time that this happened. They be like, "Well, that >> was so funny to me." Man said, "Yo, I'm about to lock in." He just turned his phone.

[01:03:38]>> I'm off the grid.

[01:03:39]>> When's the last time y'all turned your phone off?

[01:03:42]like actively the other day. Turn it off.

[01:03:44]>> I did it the other day. Yeah, I did the other day to uh just kind of reset it.

[01:03:49]>> Um because something wasn't working, so like I just reset it.

[01:03:52]>> I couldn't even tell you the last time I did it.

[01:03:55]>> I don't know. I don't know the last time I turned my phone off. Like silent is one thing. Do not disturb.

[01:04:01]>> Yeah, that's just a setting. I'm saying turn your phone off.

[01:04:05]>> I don't know. Big T, that's a great question.

[01:04:08]>> It might be years.

[01:04:10]I don't think mine might not be years, but it's months for sure.

[01:04:15]>> I don't ever turn it off.

[01:04:17]>> Like, what would be the point of turn it like if you're getting on a plane?

[01:04:19]>> I think they tell you you're supposed to every few weeks to like just just turn off and back on for a second, but I don't.

[01:04:26]>> You know what? I'm going to give it a shot.

[01:04:28]>> Let's do it. Let's Let's do a little factory reset.

[01:04:30]>> Okay, >> everybody just turn your phones off.

[01:04:33]Listeners out there, too. Well, no, because you're probably listening.

[01:04:35]You're >> listen. Yeah, that's bad idea. Bad idea.

[01:04:37]Could be on YouTube.

[01:04:39]Yeah. If you're not listening on your phone, go ahead and give it a little factory reset, man. Everybody just turn your phone off. Turn it back on. Let your battery breathe a little bit.

[01:04:48]>> Yeah. Turn it off >> now. Okay. I remember when I turned it off last. I went to a Disney cruise. It wasn't a couple. It was Yeah. It was the summer in the summer. And this phone here, peep this. I had no idea. I'm walking uh uh at the at the little at the cruise that they have. They have like their own private island >> and like you go to the island and like it's just people from the cruise that are just you get like four or five hours or whatever. I go this [ __ ] is my phone's in my pocket all my kids in the in the Jones swimming and they're like come on out like [ __ ] it let's go. I go in the excuse me the water and I'm literally soaking this [ __ ] was in the water for like 30 minutes in my pocket.

[01:05:36]Like I was literally just chilling and by the time I realized I didn't know. So I dried it, turned it off, turned it back on and [ __ ] works perfectly. I don't I don't know by the grace of God.

[01:05:47]>> I think they say they're waterresistant now, but that you're still not supposed to like submerge it for any period of time.

[01:05:54]>> This [ __ ] was submerged for like 30 minutes like in the water, dog. Unreal.

[01:05:58]And this is the same one. This [ __ ] still works perfectly. Nothing wrong with it.

[01:06:03]>> It's a good product. Shout out to Tim Cook.

[01:06:07]>> He's stepping down. Tim Apple.

[01:06:10]>> Tim Apple stepping down?

[01:06:11]>> I think so. Yeah, >> I think so. Yeah.

[01:06:13]>> Really?

[01:06:15]>> He's got to be old.

[01:06:19]>> He's 65.

[01:06:21]>> He just wants to go to Auburn games.

[01:06:24]>> Is he an Auburn guy?

[01:06:25]>> Oh, yeah.

[01:06:26]>> Or damn Eagle. What did they say? Why he he stepping down?

[01:06:33]Um, I don't know if they gave a reason, but the new CEO is like a longtime vice president of the hardware engineering, so at Apple. So, he's been around. John Turnis, he's been around forever.

[01:06:52]As long as he can keep the the culture alive. They kind of killed it when uh Steve Jobs died, actually. Now, thinking about it, I don't know if you remember this, but like early on they refused to do celebrity like endorsements, not endorsements, um, >> partnerships.

[01:07:09]>> Yeah. Like for advertising. They just would never do it. Like they were like really staunch like our product is our product. Um, and now they now they they don't care. They're horse. They just do it.

[01:07:26]>> Yeah. What's the next uh Apple product that's going to come out that's going to like shock the world because I feel like we're we're overdue. They've been too quiet for too long. I >> feel like it has to be something AI related. Unfortunately, >> they thought it was going to be the the headset.

[01:07:40]>> Yeah, the headset. That thing stinks.

[01:07:43]>> Whoa. When was the last time you used it?

[01:07:45]>> Whoa. I think the last time I it the only usage >> I get from it is if I have a long plane ride, I'll bring it. It's amazing to watch movies on you like you're not in wherever you're at. That is dope as [ __ ] But other than that, this [ __ ] don't do nothing. This [ __ ] kind of weak.

[01:08:03]>> I I'll give you that. I think I I have I've used it to have like three, four different screens on at once. Um but it feels like it's harder and harder to do that now because now they like if you play one, the other stops. Um, but for a while >> it was kind of cool, but then you're also just like sitting there in your living room wearing a headset by yourself >> and it's not like it's a it's not a great way to do anything.

[01:08:30]>> That's they didn't build out any like world for it. There's nothing for it.

[01:08:34]It's just regular Apple apps >> on your face. Yeah, they didn't do like if they built something for it, I feel like it would be better, but they just >> they didn't.

[01:08:43]>> Yeah, it's an iPad for your face >> 100%. Can I use one of y'alls for my 9-h hour flight to Hawaii?

[01:08:49]>> Yeah, >> absolutely.

[01:08:50]>> Yeah.

[01:08:50]>> All right. I want to try it >> for sure. It's uh it's okay. Um the battery life not great. So, you probably have to have like a a separate like MPHI to plug in to the battery thing that it has.

[01:09:04]>> That's fine. Okay. Uh but yeah, not great. Not great by Apple. Um and it's very expensive. It is good for like VR gaming. I'll give them that. The >> Yeah, >> that's pretty sick. But also, you're you're sitting there with a giant helmet on. Um, and it never it never works right the first time. You always have to like figure out and troubleshoot something once they get it figured out. I It'll probably be cool technology.

[01:09:29]>> What would be the best movie to watch on that?

[01:09:31]>> The Matrix, dog. Training Day.

[01:09:34]>> Oh, yeah. I got to watch Training Day.

[01:09:36]That's when I'll watch it.

[01:09:37]>> You should.

[01:09:38]>> That's when I'll watch it.

[01:09:40]Training Day, The Matrix, and there's another one you didn't see.

[01:09:45]>> There's a lot.

[01:09:48]>> Yeah. And just, you know, run back to Sandlot. You know, you may find a little soft spot in your heart for it.

[01:09:56]>> It just it doesn't it's not it's not for me. It's not >> It's just everything you love. It's baseball. It's >> so many better baseball movies, though.

[01:10:06]>> God, just Benny to Jet Rodriguez. Don't hate it. I don't hate it. It's just not.

[01:10:10]>> That might be why >> my favorite.

[01:10:14]>> Tommy, what's his name? Tommy with the big hats.

[01:10:17]>> Smalls. Come on, dog.

[01:10:19]>> Porter.

[01:10:20]>> America. Sweet America.

[01:10:25]>> Beautiful movie, dog.

[01:10:26]>> Sandy. Well, no. Wendy Precorn.

[01:10:28]>> Yep.

[01:10:29]>> Come on, dogs.

[01:10:31]>> Ham Porter uh I think makes a living now.

[01:10:34]>> Baby Ruth.

[01:10:38]Uh he's at every like card show. Yeah.

[01:10:41]>> Signing autographs. I'm sure he makes a great living doing it.

[01:10:44]>> Mhm. He was a big- time kid sports movie guy.

[01:10:48]>> What else was he >> Was he also in The Big Green? The soccer movie?

[01:10:52]>> I've never heard of that.

[01:10:53]>> He was.

[01:10:54]>> Yeah.

[01:10:55]>> I forgot about The Big Green. Yep. Uh what was the other one? Um the really the the soccer kid movie that I liked um had Rodney Dangerfield in it.

[01:11:09]I have no idea.

[01:11:10]>> Oh, uh, ladybugs. Ladybugs. Yeah.

[01:11:12]>> Yeah, you go. The ladybugs. Ladybug. Get those nail breakers.

[01:11:16]>> Yeah. Back in the day. We're we're we're we're aging ourselves right now. Don't mind us.

[01:11:20]>> Yeah. My childhood soccer movie was kicking and screaming.

[01:11:23]>> Yeah.

[01:11:24]>> Good film.

[01:11:25]>> Still one of my favorites.

[01:11:27]>> I haven't seen that one. I haven't seen >> Oh, mustwatch.

[01:11:29]>> She's the man. Another soccer movie.

[01:11:31]>> So good.

[01:11:32]>> Can you Can you stop doing that with the cup, please?

[01:11:36]Great film.

[01:11:37]>> Give the ball to the Italians.

[01:11:38]>> The ball to the Italian.

[01:11:39]>> Nobody's smoking.

[01:11:41]>> Do you think >> I could I could quote that entire movie.

[01:11:44]>> That and Fever Pitch?

[01:11:45]>> Yeah, Fever Pitch more so, but I could do Kicking and Screaming 90%.

[01:11:49]>> You think uh Ladybugs holds up?

[01:11:52]>> Oh, probably not. No, maybe not.

[01:11:55]>> No.

[01:11:57]>> Ladybugs with some with something on. I don't I don't I don't know that I like loved it. I just remember watching it. I mean, Rody Dangerfield was so funny.

[01:12:06]>> 14% on Rotten Tomatoes.

[01:12:09]>> That probably tracks. Yeah, that probably tracks. Yeah, I don't even recommend seeing it, actually.

[01:12:15]>> Forced to coach a girl soccer team, a salesman stacks it with his girlfriend's son in disguise. So, this is a she's the man.

[01:12:23]>> Oh god, I forgot about the whole plot.

[01:12:25]>> I guess it's actually reverse.

[01:12:28]>> Yeah, I forgot about that [ __ ] Yeah, his son his son plays on his soccer team to help him win or some [ __ ] like that.

[01:12:42]>> That's that's not flying today.

[01:12:48]>> What year is this from? 1992.

[01:12:51]>> Yeah.

[01:12:53]>> Oh, this has the woman who was the mom in like every Disney Channel uh show.

[01:13:00]>> Yeah. I >> I don't know her name.

[01:13:05]All right, more Jay Garoover [ __ ] >> What a transition.

[01:13:09]>> Yep.

[01:13:12]That's I I think I pretty much reached the end of the good stuff that he did like establish the natur.

[01:13:16]>> You got one thing.

[01:13:17]>> Well, the fingerprint and the forensic stuff. I I count those as two things. He probably also arrested some bad guys.

[01:13:24]>> I'm sure.

[01:13:24]>> Definitely arrested some bad guys. So, um he he knew the power of the press. He knew the power of like making a big show whenever he did anything. So he would uh he would try to take people out in like a spectacular show of force like uh when he he got Dillinger and um had a bunch of people just shoot him on the street. He that was like that was good for his his image. Like I'm a tough guy. I I Law and Order tough on crime.

[01:13:52]um he was initially uh very very very anti-communist, anti-anarchist and anti-radical.

[01:14:02]So in uh 1920 there were thousands of people that he uh he rounded up claiming that they were communists, claiming that they were anarchists. um did not really have a whole lot of uh evidence to support the allegations, but he he arrested thousands of people in what they called the Palmer raids and um the attorney general was a man named Mitchell Palmer. And after the raids and uh the subsequent like fallout from it, they couldn't really prosecute too many people. Palmer resigned specifically because of how bad the raids were. Uh but then Hoover kind of skated by even though he was the one that actually like did them. They were at the direction of Palmer, but Hoover was like, "Yeah, let's round up these commies." Um and then in 1921, uh Hoover got named assistant director of the bureau. And then uh Calvin Culage later, uh appointed Herbert Hoover as director of the Bureau of Intelligence.

[01:15:05]Now, one of the things that they say that uh that Hoover really dropped the ball on was investigating the mafia, Lakosa Nostra, because he actually said that the mafia doesn't did not exist.

[01:15:17]>> I like that. That's a big take of mine.

[01:15:19]>> That they don't exist.

[01:15:21]>> I'm I'm coming around to it a little more. Uh but yeah, I'm a big uh I I just I don't know something about it >> that they never existed or that they don't exist >> more so currently.

[01:15:38]>> Okay. So it was a problem.

[01:15:40]>> I think at some point there was some uh iteration of what you would call the mafia. Yeah.

[01:15:45]>> And right now you don't think that that's an issue at all?

[01:15:50]>> I don't see it.

[01:15:53]>> Okay. There is a guy on Tik Tok who claims he was in the mafia, but he talks about all the people he killed and stuff and I'm like, why are you not in prison?

[01:16:01]>> Yeah. Also, he shouldn't be saying that on Tik Tok.

[01:16:03]>> Yeah. I think he became >> Wait, so so like the drug trafficking business is like a billion dollar business. Like it's run by people that are in the mafia. A lot of them. You don't think they exist?

[01:16:19]When you say the mafia, >> like there's there it's it's not one like like like a mafia is just like a a family or an organization that uh has a business around drug trafficking.

[01:16:35]>> Yeah, I think there are certainly groups of criminals that are engaged in organized >> criminal activities.

[01:16:42]>> I think we romanticize it in movies and I think you're thinking more somewhat.

[01:16:47]Yes. I think he's thinking Italian.

[01:16:49]Yeah.

[01:16:50]>> Yeah. I don't think maybe Italian drug trafficking is probably minimal.

[01:16:56]>> Yeah, that's awesome.

[01:16:58]>> I don't even understand that. Maybe they are, but I don't know. But there's definitely families that are in that [ __ ] But yo, >> sure.

[01:17:04]>> That's how you get the bump. It's how you get the blow. You know what I mean?

[01:17:08]>> Yeah. The Italians um you could question if their power was taken away because I think that they were a much bigger force. But actually, let me let me rephrase.

[01:17:20]After reading about the initial raid where where the FBI started to investigate the mafia, it it raises a lot of questions.

[01:17:30]So, Jaggger Hoover, he said that the the mafia didn't exist. People be like, you know, talking about organized crime in America, the Italian mob, and he was like, this is none of this is true. You guys are having a fever dream. Let's focus on the communists. Let's let's arrest more of them. they're the problem.

[01:17:48]Um, but then 1957 came around and in November 1957, there was a famous raid uh in Appalachin, which is near Bingington, New York. McKenzie, are you familiar with Appalachin?

[01:18:05]>> Yes.

[01:18:06]>> How how big of a town is that?

[01:18:08]>> Um, I don't think it's that big.

[01:18:10]>> Do you know anything about the the raid that happened there?

[01:18:13]>> I do not.

[01:18:14]>> Well, first of all, that's Stolen Valor.

[01:18:15]They should have to rename the name of that town. But >> I agree. I agree. It's upstate New York.

[01:18:22]It's Poconos.

[01:18:23]>> Yeah.

[01:18:23]>> It's not Appalachian.

[01:18:24]>> My culture is not your custom.

[01:18:26]>> Correct. So, um there was a guy up there that lived in Appalachia named Joseph Barbara and he was a beverage distributor and uh he was also somewhat of a he was known to law enforcement, put it that way. Um he had a meeting at his house with about 60 people that came by. Some would call that a party. Um but he had a lot of people over at his house in this tiny town in Appalachin. And there was a local police sergeant named Edgar Cwell that overheard this guy Barbarara's son trying to book rooms at a hotel nearby, calling like for a lot of rooms. And uh Croswell was like, "What's this guy up to? who I know that he's like he's a criminal. Why is he having this many people here? So, he called up his boss and he's like, I need reinforcements.

[01:19:18]Um, and let's set up a barricade uh because I'm seeing that there's a lot of uh a lot of out of state license plates that are meeting at this house.

[01:19:29]So, they set up a uh a series of barricades outside of his house and they arrested about 60 people that said that they were in the or that would later be claimed to be in the mafia. They were head heads of families and uh they were known to their own local law enforcement situations and they were all meeting together at this one house and then that made the Department of Justice and the FBI revised their entire way of operating and um they started to arrest a lot of Italian criminals after that.

[01:20:04]So you you be the judge. Is that evidence of a mafia having a big party? I guess we'll see >> with 60 Italians at it. Is that a crime?

[01:20:14]>> The crime was having 60 Italians from different states in at the same location. How many Italians is too much?

[01:20:25]>> You tell me. What is the number?

[01:20:26]>> I don't. They It's obviously a conversation that somebody had to have.

[01:20:30]>> 60. We all agree. That's a crime.

[01:20:32]>> 60 Italians. Too many is 50.

[01:20:35]>> That's actually hilarious.

[01:20:36]>> 40. If they're from the same state, I'm okay with 60 Italians.

[01:20:41]But if we're doing out of state plates, there's something going on.

[01:20:48]And I'm part I can say this. I'm part Italian.

[01:20:50]>> Sure.

[01:20:51]>> 1% Sicilian. Yeah. But honestly, this is uh it's pretty crazy that this is what it was that made them be like, "Yeah, the mob is real." Like it was one party that they had. It's a lot of >> It says the population there is 2,000.

[01:21:05]the population of Appalachin. Yeah.

[01:21:07]>> So, it's a very small town.

[01:21:08]>> Very small. I used to drive through it when I'd go to college. It was on my way.

[01:21:12]>> Yeah. So, uh the FBI's New York field office um was put under a microscope because they should have been investigating the activities at the uh Appalachin estate.

[01:21:26]Um, so they had 400 special agents at the FBI that were assigned to trying to find subversives, meaning communists, anarchists, things like that. And they had four that were in charge of investigating organized crime.

[01:21:44]Four. So, um, before 1950s, almost every single file that that Jay Ghoover collected was about communists. Um, and then after that, there were some that were on criminals and gangsters, but they ended up having files on uh 25 million people over the course of Jay Garoover's career. And uh before this raid, just about zero of them were about criminals, gangsters, things like that.

[01:22:13]They were all about communists. He saw communists as being the number one threat to America. Um it was, you know, after World War II, it was the Cold War.

[01:22:22]So he thought that that was priority number one. Um but then when they found this evidence of the mob going on, Hoover was like, "Let's do a anti-mob uh task force." And so he created the Top Hood program, which is pretty that's pretty [ __ ] cool, right? The top hood program. We can agree that's an awesome name for a program.

[01:22:45]And uh he used that to like track the top 10. he would put wire taps. Uh, and the mafia fought back a little bit. And the mafia, a lot of people think that the mafia and Hoover had a relationship beforehand. And it was only until, you know, the the giant meeting that made him take something, you know, take notice of it. But a lot of people think that the mafia was blackmailing Hoover beforehand or at least bribing him um by means of uh illicit photographs and that's why Hoover did not go after the mafia until he had to. So we can we can talk about some of the speculation of what those photographs might have been and why Hoover would have not paid attention to like a massive group of organized criminals operating right under his nose. Uh but he was uh he was suspected of being a uh deeply closeted gay man for his entire life to the point where when he died uh he confirmed bachelor his entire life. When he died uh as a federal agent they fold up the flag and they typically hand that flag to your widow. Um, in this case, they folded up the flag and they handed it to his uh his longtime best friend, his his handsome longtime best friend uh that was also a uh a loyal lieutenant in his FBI. They worked together their entire life. His name was Clyde Toulson.

[01:24:22]So Clyde Toulson was a deputy. He was uh yeah, he was regarded as being commonly common commonly accepted to be Jay Garoover's longtime boyfriend. I I don't know that they lived together for their entire lives off and on, but they would they would eat dinner together every night. They would hang out all the time and uh the speculation is that the Bob might have had some some photographs of Jerger and and old Clyde.

[01:24:53]And then there was also the crossdressing rumors.

[01:24:57]So >> would you rather live your life now or be like a top mob guy in the 50s?

[01:25:06]>> Oo, top mob guy in the 50s sounds pretty good.

[01:25:15]>> You get killed at 64.

[01:25:18]>> Die with my shoes on.

[01:25:20]>> I don't know what that means.

[01:25:21]>> Okay. Uh, not in the face.

[01:25:26]>> Uh, would you >> I want to have an open casket from the family.

[01:25:30]>> So, if they're going to kill you, what would you want to happen to you?

[01:25:32]>> Do I see it coming?

[01:25:34]>> Yeah, you're executed.

[01:25:36]>> Okay. But again, shot in like the chest.

[01:25:39]>> Why would you want that? That's worse.

[01:25:41]>> Uh, open casket for the family.

[01:25:44]>> You're going to get your chest blown open and then have an open casket.

[01:25:46]>> Yeah. Yeah. So, the the wife, the kids, the gumar.

[01:25:50]Yeah. I want to pay come by pay the pay their respects.

[01:25:53]>> All right. You can get killed however you want.

[01:25:55]>> Oh, no. That wasn't Gumar. You don't know Gumar? Gumar is the girlfriend.

[01:25:59]That's the girlfriend.

[01:26:00]>> Huh?

[01:26:00]>> That's the girlfriend.

[01:26:01]>> Yeah. Okay.

[01:26:02]>> That's the girlfriend.

[01:26:04]>> Yeah. If you watch like uh like Good Fellas or The Sopranos or like I think it's in Good Fellows where it's like Fridays are for the Gumar, Saturdays for the wife, Sundays for the family, for the kids. That was like that was like their rule back in the day.

[01:26:18]>> The original Saturdays are for the boys.

[01:26:20]Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. It was uh No, I I don't I got a pretty good life right now. Big T.

[01:26:26]>> Yeah, you did.

[01:26:27]>> I I don't know if that being a But being a gangster in the 50s is probably pretty sweet.

[01:26:32]>> That [ __ ] sucked, bro. What are you talking about?

[01:26:34]>> If you were a top gangster, >> dog [ __ ] man. You don't got no G no GPS.

[01:26:40]>> That's the first thing you go to.

[01:26:43]>> Absolutely, bro. The funnest [ __ ] you could do in the 50s is >> torture nowadays. But you didn't know it existed. So, >> but you do.

[01:26:54]>> True.

[01:26:54]>> Yeah.

[01:26:55]>> They had golf.

[01:26:58]>> Trash. That [ __ ] was trash back then.

[01:27:00]The balls weren't going as far.

[01:27:01]>> So true.

[01:27:02]>> The courses weren't >> They're about to not go as far either.

[01:27:04]>> You had to hit with black people weren't allowed to go on the courses. Big D back.

[01:27:08]>> Fair enough.

[01:27:10]>> Oh, back. What a good movie, >> right? There's nothing I want to do in the 50s. Yo, I This era is the era I want to be in. And honestly, it might be the best era of all time cuz the shit's going to happen after we gone. It's going to be [ __ ] stupid. It might be stupid. This AI shit's It's pretty stupid. What if we're living in the last like real like we I don't know how to phrase this.

[01:27:37]In 20 years, everything just might be fake. Like you might just do everything >> surrogate.

[01:27:44]>> Yeah. There won't you won't even have like a real life.

[01:27:47]>> Yeah. You might have you might have your consciousness uploaded to a a Tesla bot and he goes out and does [ __ ] for you.

[01:27:58]Wall-E and you just sit in your room getting big as [ __ ] >> What if we live through the last like time of people living their lives fully autonomous?

[01:28:11]>> Could be. Man, you seen Wall-E? Yeah, of course.

[01:28:16]>> Could be like Wall-E, bro. We just hovering around on our little moped hoverboards watching our screens.

[01:28:27]>> Mhm.

[01:28:30]>> EA.

[01:28:32]>> Yeah. I don't I don't know what would your day be like in the 1950s if you were top hoodling. It's >> trash. You wake up probably have a like What town are we living in here, Big T?

[01:28:44]New York or Vegas?

[01:28:46]>> No, Northeast for sure.

[01:28:47]>> Okay, so Jersey New York.

[01:28:51]>> Yeah, let's say Jersey City.

[01:28:52]>> Okay, Jersey City. I wake up in the morning. Probably not in that big of a house, right? Probably like >> Oh, let's say you're out in Jersey a little bit.

[01:29:00]>> Oh, okay. All right. You got to put a suit on.

[01:29:04]>> Yeah, I put my suit on. I um Yeah, I think I have >> That's a sick suit, though. I wear my suit before breakfast even.

[01:29:09]>> That's the one thing this era doesn't do. We don't dress up anymore. Like we do comfort back then. Like everybody dressed up. Everybody had like there was a like public decorum like public fashion decorum. We don't have that no more, >> bro. People went to baseball games in suits 50 years ago.

[01:29:29]>> That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Like got to dress up >> or get on sucks.

[01:29:35]I would like to see the the flight the airport has gotten a little too out of control.

[01:29:40]>> Okay. Sean Duffy.

[01:29:43]>> Who's Shawn Duffy?

[01:29:44]>> What does it matter to anyone?

[01:29:45]>> Secretary of transportation that wants to put pull-up bars in airports.

[01:29:50]>> I don't know about all that. You just can't wear pajamas.

[01:29:53]>> I have no problem with pajamas.

[01:29:55]>> Who cares?

[01:29:56]>> You got to be comfortable on a long ass flight. B.

[01:29:58]>> Yeah. What's wrong?

[01:29:59]>> Where wear a pair of sweatpants. But they I I think some people are saying I'm talking about like Cookie Monster pajama pants.

[01:30:08]>> How often are you actually seeing that in the >> Almost every time 10 years.

[01:30:12]>> No way.

[01:30:12]>> I'll I'll take a picture on Friday. I I never once thought that that was a problem until I was recently told that I should have a problem with pajamas on airplanes.

[01:30:21]>> Right. Who told me that?

[01:30:23]>> I think you might have told me that.

[01:30:24]>> It's impossible. I don't know.

[01:30:26]>> It uh I haven't wore shoes on a plane in 10 years. Okay. So, wait. All right. So, wait.

[01:30:33]>> You do when you get on the plane, do you have shoes?

[01:30:35]>> Slides.

[01:30:36]>> Slides. Okay.

[01:30:37]>> With socks or no?

[01:30:39]>> Yeah. Always with socks. Okay. That's fine.

[01:30:42]>> If you said no, >> I got I thought you were saying like you got on a plane.

[01:30:45]>> I look like a no socks kind of guy. Is that that the vibe I give off?

[01:30:47]>> I thought you were saying you get on the plane and you take your shoes off.

[01:30:50]>> Same.

[01:30:50]>> Yeah.

[01:30:51]>> No, I just haven't worn shoes. Well, I mean >> like clothes to Yeah.

[01:30:55]>> His He kind of does have his shoes off.

[01:31:00]Yeah, true. If you're just wearing slides, I mean >> Yeah. And then I slide them underneath the thing. Absolutely.

[01:31:06]>> Oh, so you you take even the slides off.

[01:31:09]>> Absolutely. Oh, yeah.

[01:31:11]>> So, when we were talking about having your shoes off on a plane the other day, you didn't feel >> compelled to speak up.

[01:31:17]>> Well, I mean, I didn't feel like you were talking about me.

[01:31:22]>> I didn't know I was.

[01:31:23]>> Cuz if my Cuz if my slides is on, there's not much difference. is if they're off.

[01:31:30]>> I No, I agree with you.

[01:31:32]>> That's what we're saying.

[01:31:35]>> So, yeah, I I'm a shoes off on the plane guy.

[01:31:41]I am the culprit.

[01:31:44]>> That's a little nuts.

[01:31:46]>> Shoes off on a plane.

[01:31:47]>> Yeah.

[01:31:49]>> Anakah does it. She always posts about it.

[01:31:51]>> I don't like that.

[01:31:52]>> Like I don't got my feet all like in people's faces. You know what I'm saying?

[01:31:57]>> What do you mean? Well, yeah, but for people that do take their shoes off on a plane, it's not that they're in your face, it's that they're in the vicinity and your feet probably smell.

[01:32:06]>> My feet don't smell, dog. What do you mean?

[01:32:08]>> Well, not if you have slides on all day.

[01:32:10]I agree. They're getting air, a constant air flow. But if you got >> 99 times out of 100, I'm coming from my house to the airport, >> fresh out the shower, new socks on, brand new socks.

[01:32:24]>> Brand new socks. You put on a brand new pair of socks every time you fly. I'm kind of anal about socks, dog. Like I I got a lot of socks.

[01:32:31]>> I think that um the vast majority of people I I do have a lot of socks, too.

[01:32:36]I Erin, you're probably you're talking number one. When I signed my extension at Barcel Sports, the very first thing that I did, I went across the street to like TJ Maxx or whatever it was and I came back with like 70 pairs of fresh socks.

[01:32:50]>> That's not where you buy socks.

[01:32:51]>> And then I then I laid down. I I put them on my bed like it was the cash in Breaking Bad. I just laid down on brand new socks because that's all I ever wanted.

[01:32:59]>> Made a made a sock angel. I love it.

[01:33:00]>> All I ever wanted was enough money to just wear just constantly refresh my socks like once maybe twice a year all new socks.

[01:33:08]>> I'm with you. I'm a sock guy. I I got fresh socks a lot of the times. I got new socks. It's rare that I don't got like fresh socks on and I and like I'm I don't have any kind of like hoarder >> feelings with them. I depart. I don't need them. Yeah. Yeah, if they if they if they've outworn their welcome, like it's it's time to go.

[01:33:27]>> Yeah.

[01:33:28]>> New socks.

[01:33:32]>> So, I'll be fresh on the plane.

[01:33:33]>> All right. You might be fresh on the plane. A lot of people aren't when they take their shoes off, though.

[01:33:37]>> It's fair, dog. That's dusty. You know what I mean? Yeah. If you if you if you have questionable socks, that's dusty characteristics, and you and you got to like grow up a little bit.

[01:33:45]>> Yep. I agree. Um, but yeah, if I was a ma head of the mafia back in the 50s, wake up, have breakfast, somebody comes in, as you're reading the paper, you read, you know, someone walks in, they tell me about some issue I got to take care of. Then I have somebody go out and take care of that issue.

[01:34:03]>> Yo, Tommy at the deli didn't pay his due diligence.

[01:34:06]>> I told him. I told him. I'm done talking.

[01:34:09]>> Yeah. And that's the thing. You got lieutenants. Like, you don't have to do all this [ __ ] >> Yeah. It feels like also, if I'm the head of the mafia, here's the thing. You had the mafia back in the day. A lot of decisions you got to make.

[01:34:19]>> Sure.

[01:34:19]>> Like heavy is is the head that wears the crown. I don't know that it would that it really be that fun.

[01:34:24]>> What's the fun [ __ ] you gonna do though?

[01:34:26]You know what I'm saying? You okay go to a Yankee game maybe?

[01:34:30]>> Yeah. Like >> Oh, that you got good seats.

[01:34:32]>> What do you do that's just like full on you're off the clock having fun?

[01:34:39]>> What do you like a like a skating rink?

[01:34:43]I don't know. Do they play like poker or like cards?

[01:34:47]>> Uh, almost certainly.

[01:34:49]>> Yeah, I play some cards. I So, I I guess my final answer, Big T, is I'd rather be me right now.

[01:34:55]>> Yeah.

[01:34:57]What? Uh, well, I don't know if you want to put a number on it. What at at what income threshold now would you have to be before you'd rather >> That's wild.

[01:35:09]Like would you rather be making >> if I was making like $25,000 a year right now, >> right?

[01:35:15]>> Or be the head of the mafia in the 50s.

[01:35:16]Yeah, probably head of the mafia in the 50s.

[01:35:20]>> I think Yeah, >> head of the mafia in the 50s. How much do you think you're pulling in then?

[01:35:25]Like in today's cash?

[01:35:27]>> I mean, I I don't know >> cuz remember this is before they got like into drugs. Drugs were you do drugs.

[01:35:36]>> What were they doing? I have to say goodbye.

[01:35:38]>> What were they making money?

[01:35:39]>> Uh making money on g like local gambling.

[01:35:42]>> Okay.

[01:35:42]>> Uh running numbers.

[01:35:44]>> I thought they was always into drugs.

[01:35:45]No, >> no, no. They didn't like drugs at all.

[01:35:48]The old school guys, they thought that associating with drugs meant that you would then bring in like unsavory, untrustworthy criminals.

[01:35:57]>> Huh. Yeah. Not up on my mafia lore.

[01:36:00]>> Yeah. So in today's money, they if if they weren't doing drugs, top guys were probably making >> there was gambling. Things fall off a truck that you can then sell >> 300 >> in today's money.

[01:36:11]>> Yeah.

[01:36:12]>> 300,000.

[01:36:13]>> Yeah.

[01:36:13]>> For the top guy. No, I think way more than that.

[01:36:16]>> Way more.

[01:36:17]>> I think way more. Yeah.

[01:36:18]>> Million.

[01:36:19]>> I think I think you were probably making like top guys three to five million a year.

[01:36:24]>> No.

[01:36:25]>> Adjusted for inflation. I think so.

[01:36:27]Yeah.

[01:36:29]>> That's a lot. Uh, we can look it up.

[01:36:32]>> I don't know that there's reliable data.

[01:36:33]>> You kind of You kind of did that in the 50s. You'd have to go to a library.

[01:36:37]>> Yeah, >> true.

[01:36:38]>> Anything you would have go to the Dewey decibel system.

[01:36:41]>> Mhm.

[01:36:42]>> Say that one more time.

[01:36:43]>> Dewey decimal. I [ __ ] up.

[01:36:44]>> Okay.

[01:36:45]>> Did you know that you can get you can request your FBI files?

[01:36:49]>> Yeah, it's public.

[01:36:50]>> Really? Yeah. You can see if if the FBI has a file on you.

[01:36:53]>> How do you How do you do that? Uh, >> I think the FBI website should do that.

[01:36:58]Yeah, we should do that.

[01:37:01]They got somewhere >> FBI.com.

[01:37:03]>> You You can just Google it and be like, "How do I get access to my FBI files?"

[01:37:07]And it's it's a process. I don't think it's immediate.

[01:37:09]>> Oh, >> I'm in.

[01:37:11]>> You're in. You've hacked into the main frame.

[01:37:13]>> Yeah.

[01:37:14]>> I love that [ __ ] >> Is it just a is it a foyer request?

[01:37:17]>> It's an e foipa.

[01:37:20]It's It's some offshoot of foyer. Yeah.

[01:37:25]You can find your FBI file by submitting a Freedom of Information Privacy Act request online by mail or via email.

[01:37:34]>> I'm on the FBI vault, which I don't know how. It's a government website. I searched my name. I was kidnapped 22 times.

[01:37:43]>> What?

[01:37:44]>> Yeah. In different in different varieties.

[01:37:48]>> There have been 22 Meline Conroys that have been kidnapped.

[01:37:52]>> It says, actually, I don't know if it's 22. There's 22 results of me and all of them are from before I was born, but it's most of them are massacres, kidnappings, and the Yeah, massacres and kidnapping. The Bamer kidnapping, whatever that is.

[01:38:16]>> That's kind of crazy.

[01:38:18]>> Poor girl.

[01:38:19]>> I'm signing up right now.

[01:38:23]and foyer logs from 1980 through 1999. I wonder if that has anything to do with me being born.

[01:38:29]>> Can you look up uh Aryan's name?

[01:38:31]>> Arian.

[01:38:32]>> I bet you it's people like at the FBI doing fantasy football drafts like on an email thread.

[01:38:39]>> Um >> I guarantee you there's somebody that's talking about that.

[01:38:44]>> On my end, I see I see little to do.

[01:38:48]There's a foil log in 2016.

[01:38:52]Um >> h >> but it's I can't >> that's when we that's when we took a knee >> that could be that interesting actually probably yeah >> I probably I probably track >> who was the head of the FBI then >> I'll tell you was it uh Comey wasn't it >> was that Comey >> they got him for you they finally got him >> is he >> they nailed that son of a [ __ ] >> James Comey Wait, he in trouble right now?

[01:39:24]>> Yeah, kind of. Yeah, he indicted >> for >> indicted.

[01:39:28]>> Okay, so he The indictment is for threatening to kill or physically harm the president of the United States.

[01:39:41]>> Oh, you can get like half the country with that [ __ ] right now.

[01:39:43]>> Oh, he got indicted again yesterday.

[01:39:45]>> He made a post, I believe, on Instagram.

[01:39:48]the 8647 >> out of seashells at the beach that said 8647.

[01:39:53]>> Got it.

[01:39:54]>> I saw Cash Patel's clip about that.

[01:39:56]>> So, unquestionably that meant that he wanted to kill Donald Trump, >> which that's what the Department of Like Comey is uh just an emotional messy poster. The fact that he made it out of seashells is very funny to me. It's like so solemn and he think he thinks he's being poetic. Comey definitely spends like six hours in a field every day writing poetry about his best arrest that he's ever had.

[01:40:23]>> Also, I just I'm on the FBI's um like list of previous FBI directors.

[01:40:29]>> Robert Mueller took office as the FBI director exactly one week before 911. What a what bad timing.

[01:40:38]>> Yeah, that's tough.

[01:40:40]>> Your first week on the job, 911 happens.

[01:40:42]>> Yeah, that's that's that's bad. And you're the FBI director.

[01:40:46]>> They had like they had intelligence before that though, didn't they? They kind of Yeah.

[01:40:50]>> Yeah. If you're like one week on the job, that's I don't think anybody was like it's Mueller's fault.

[01:40:54]>> No, >> you're still like you're getting the keys to various offices at that point.

[01:40:59]>> Also, what a chin on that guy.

[01:41:00]>> Big chin. Yeah.

[01:41:02]>> Huge chin.

[01:41:03]>> But yeah, that's a tough uh start to the job.

[01:41:07]>> I got to track down my my FBI file. See if I have one.

[01:41:11]>> Got to do that. I'm going to put my assistant on it cuz I went to their website and that [ __ ] looks like a homework assignment. I'm off it.

[01:41:17]>> You put your assistant on it?

[01:41:18]>> Yeah, I'm going to say I need you to get my FBI files, please.

[01:41:23]>> And your assistant will do that?

[01:41:25]>> Yeah, it's my assistant.

[01:41:27]>> Would that include like, you know how in the Epstein files and all that, there's just emails of like just random people.

[01:41:35]Would this include like if if Comey had Aryen on his fantasy football team and he said something about it, would that be in there?

[01:41:42]>> I think so. Yeah. Like that might be different. That might be because I know that a lot of people have files on them and and Hoover started that at the FBI just like personally investigating and keeping files on specific Americans that he suspected of being anti-American. Um, I think accessing those is different from a general Freedom of Information Act request, which would be I would like to see every email that internal email at the FBI that included the name Aryen Foster.

[01:42:16]>> So, that's probably what we want.

[01:42:17]>> I would like to see that too. Yeah, I'd like to see both. I because I for Arian it's the chances of him having an FBI file are not zero for the kneeling thing because that is something that like Hoover would have done obviously like Comey is a little bit different than than Hoover uh but for a long time Hoover kept files on on anyone that showed uh any semblance of anti-American activity and that's what they said Aryan was doing and Kaepernick when they took knees like they were saying anti-Americ Yeah. Yeah. The the accusation was that you hate America.

[01:42:52]>> Absolutely.

[01:42:53]>> Which is why they would have kept the file on you.

[01:42:56]>> Yeah.

[01:42:57]>> I want to know.

[01:42:57]>> Could be.

[01:43:00]>> I'll uh I'll report back when I get my file.

[01:43:02]>> So, he kept um he kept a list. Hoover kept a list of subversives. Here's some names on that list. There's one that's just I'm going to save it for last.

[01:43:12]Okay. But these are the the following people were on his list of potential American subversives. Marilyn Monroe, Muhammad Ali, Eleanor Roosevelt, that's the first lady, Jackie Robinson, John Lewis, MLK, Walt Disney, Charlie Chaplan, The Monkeys, Lucille Ball, Rock Hudson, Truman Capot, John Lennon, Yokoono, Ono, Jean Seabberg.

[01:43:44]was honestly >> I mean Elanor Roosevelt being on there is kind of wild like the first lady.

[01:43:49]>> Yeah. Like you kind of like yo I don't know about this dude's wife but he also was so I was just reading this thing real quick. Anthony Summers in 1993 >> Mhm.

[01:43:59]>> described Hoover as a bisexual with failed heterosexuality.

[01:44:03]>> Okay.

[01:44:04]>> Maybe just had something against women.

[01:44:05]>> He might have. Yeah.

[01:44:08]John Denver was on the list.

[01:44:12]Abbott and Castello. I'm personally offended by that.

[01:44:15]>> Ab which one? Castello.

[01:44:17]>> Abbott and Castello.

[01:44:18]>> I mean, those are two all-American.

[01:44:20]They're in the Baseball Hall of Fame.

[01:44:23]>> Castello probably because he was Italian.

[01:44:25]>> Abbott. What's Abbott doing on this list?

[01:44:28]>> Yeah, they did.

[01:44:28]>> What's on second?

[01:44:29]>> Yeah. What's on second? I don't know who plays third, right?

[01:44:32]>> I forget.

[01:44:32]>> Can you Can you do the lineup?

[01:44:33]>> Yeah. I don't know. Third base.

[01:44:34]>> Who's on first? What's on second?

[01:44:36]>> I don't know. Third base.

[01:44:37]>> Yeah.

[01:44:39]um >> is um today and tomorrow. Are they on the team? Are they maybe pitchers?

[01:44:46]>> I think so.

[01:44:49]>> Yeah, I'd have to go back and look.

[01:44:52]Alltimer.

[01:44:53]>> Look up that lineup.

[01:44:56]Look up that lineup. I got who on my fantasy team.

[01:45:00]>> Okay. Do you want the whole thing?

[01:45:01]>> Yeah.

[01:45:03]>> First base, who? Second base, what?

[01:45:05]Third base? I don't know. Short stuff.

[01:45:07]Short stuff. I don't give a damn.

[01:45:10]Left field. Why? Center field because right field unnamed in the routine.

[01:45:17]Pitcher tomorrow catcher today.

[01:45:20]>> So they didn't even talk about right field.

[01:45:22]>> Yeah, >> that's kind of a big that's an oversight on Aban Cassella's part. Did they do anything else besides who's on first?

[01:45:31]>> That's the only thing I know of them.

[01:45:32]>> Yeah, but it was a banger.

[01:45:33]>> They're in the Baseball Hall of Fame because of it.

[01:45:35]>> Yeah, it was a banger. Um, Arian, you familiar with that?

[01:45:40]>> No.

[01:45:40]>> You don't know who's on first?

[01:45:43]>> I am not. What is that?

[01:45:44]>> Must watch.

[01:45:45]>> Yeah, go watch who's on first.

[01:45:48]>> I don't know that there's any really comedy from the 1940s that could make me laugh. But this, other than who's on first, it's still hilarious.

[01:45:59]>> I haven't watched it in years.

[01:46:02]Years.

[01:46:05]>> Why? Because nobody I don't know. I don't give a darn what who >> No, you got to watch it.

[01:46:10]>> Yeah. Watch it later. Watch it later.

[01:46:12]>> Okay. Yeah, I'll watch it, guys.

[01:46:16]>> Uh but then other names on that list, Artha Franklin was on there. And then the one that I left off and wanted to save to the end on the one >> I no idea. But on the list of his u subversives, anti-American subversives was also Helen Keller.

[01:46:35]Hell yeah. I mean, yeah. You never know with her, dog. You know what I mean?

[01:46:40]>> What's she hiding?

[01:46:42]>> Have we done an episode on Helen Keller?

[01:46:45]>> I don't know that we have. I don't >> I don't think we have the the uh >> We need to >> Helen Keller. The perfect cover story.

[01:46:53]>> I don't think we have >> cuz that shit's fake as hell.

[01:46:56]>> No, we have not.

[01:46:58]>> That's next week.

[01:46:59]>> All right. Next week we Helen Kellering it up.

[01:47:02]But [ __ ] or Hoover thought that she needed to be monitored, I guess. Uh >> I don't know. I can't imagine why.

[01:47:10]>> I like that.

[01:47:11]>> Why?

[01:47:12]>> Because something was up.

[01:47:13]>> Keep an eye >> that there's no way the the whole Helen We'll do this next week. I'm I'm excited.

[01:47:22]>> Yeah, that's wild. She was a wild story.

[01:47:26]She was on the she was on an FBI watch list uh because she was a I guess she was a a communist or a socialist, but she that's what the FBI said. She was an activist that um would raise awareness and and uh kind of like try to help people that were blind, help other people that were blind and um and let people know like we need to put more thought and care into public facilities for blind people, which I think is probably a very good thing that we hadn't thought much about until then.

[01:48:06]>> And he ain't [ __ ] with that. and he was like, "This sounds like sounds like socialism to me."

[01:48:13]Yeah. Uh, and I think um I don't know.

[01:48:18]We can we can talk more about Helen Keller. There's a lot of different reasons why people can be blind. This is I'm all speculating here. A lot of different reasons why people can be blind. One would be like congenital.

[01:48:27]They're born and they can't see. Uh, one would be like uh, you know, something happens to them as a kid. Another would be like if they work in an unsafe work environment and they're blinded by machinery or chemicals and if you start lobbying for people in their workplace too hard, especially back in Helen Keller's day, uh that's starting to sound a lot like communism, like the union the union conversation.

[01:48:57]>> Well, [ __ ] with unions here.

[01:48:59]>> That that might be a reason why. But yeah, he he he had a file on Helen Keller. I I hope that he was getting constant updates on like what she did today. I mean, Helen Keller, the fact that she We'll get into Helen Keller.

[01:49:13]I'm glad that Big T is a is a truther.

[01:49:16]>> I feel strongly about Helen Keller.

[01:49:18]>> Okay.

[01:49:20]Uh people also think that Hoover might have been part of the JFK assassination.

[01:49:26]>> Oh, yeah. Really? Yeah.

[01:49:28]Um, so when Kennedy got shot, LBJ became president and Hoover was boys with LBJ and uh, Hoover was supposed to retire when the day that he turned 70.

[01:49:49]Uh but the fact that he was friends with LBJ meant that LBJ could give him an exemption and uh let him stick around for additional like nine years until he died.

[01:50:01]There was also the fact that Lee Harvey Oswald dropped off a note at with the FBI.

[01:50:07]He dropped it off in Dallas 10 days before the shooting of JFK. And the note that he dropped off was for a guy named James Hosti. And then Hosti destroyed that note the day that Oswald was shot to destroy that evidence. And then he acknowledged that there was a note in 1975 and he said it was a note from Lee Harvey Oswald to this guy to stop harassing my wife, but he destroyed it because it looked bad that the FBI had received some sort of communication from the assassin 10 days before the assassin shot Kennedy.

[01:50:46]Sounds kind of fishy to me.

[01:50:47]>> Interesting.

[01:50:49]>> Um, yeah, they a lot of people say that Hoover knew about the different plots to shoot Kennedy.

[01:50:56]Um, people also think that Oswald might have been an FBI informant and the FBI told him to to kill Kennedy.

[01:51:04]And the other scenario is that Oswald told the FBI that there were plots to kill Kennedy and then um Jack Ruby was an FBI informant and then Jack Ruby killed Oswald after the fact to cover up at the request of the FBI.

[01:51:27]So the um the idea that he was a crossdresser or transvestite um comes from one source >> like trans transvestite.

[01:51:38]>> Yeah. Like dress up in like a a a man who dresses as a woman.

[01:51:44]>> I thought a transvestite was somebody who has both parts.

[01:51:48]>> That's interex.

[01:51:50]>> Yeah.

[01:51:51]>> Really?

[01:51:52]>> Or hermaphrodite. You might be thinking hermaphrodite >> hermaphrodite there was a itite.

[01:51:57]>> Yeah, transvestite. You have you don't really hear about trans you don't really hear about transvestite that much anymore. Back in like the 90s and 2000s it was like yeah if you a crossdressing person transvestite. Um, but there are rumors that that Hoover liked to get dressed up as a woman, especially at parties, like get dressed up in full drag, wearing like heels, stockings, dresses, makeup, wig, that whole thing.

[01:52:24]That all >> affirming. Yeah, >> that that comes from the uh from a report from one person. So there was uh there was one person, she was a society divorce, a socialite from Washington DC named Susan Rosensteel.

[01:52:42]>> What a name.

[01:52:43]>> And I believe she was also a a convicted perjurer. Perjurist.

[01:52:49]She she committed perjury.

[01:52:51]>> Okay.

[01:52:52]>> So she's like a a convicted liar.

[01:52:54]>> Pergerite.

[01:52:54]>> Pergerite.

[01:52:55]>> Oh, I'm making >> a socialite pergerite.

[01:52:57]>> Oh no.

[01:52:58]>> Yeah. Um, so who knows if that part's true, but she said that she was at a party at the Plaza Hotel, 1958, and Hoover showed up wearing a fluffy black dress with flounces and lace stockings and high heels and a black curly wig, wearing false eyelashes, a short skirt.

[01:53:15]He was sitting there in the living room of the suite with his legs crossed. Roy Conn introduced him to me as Mary, and he replied, "Good evening.

[01:53:24]Uh, you'd never seen anything like it. I couldn't believe it that I should see the head of the FBI dressed as a woman.

[01:53:30]So, this woman is the only source and she is, as I said, she perjured herself in an unrelated case in the 1970s and then she became the subject of an FBI investigation because of her husband's bootle or bootlegging connections.

[01:53:47]Um, but there are some connections to uh to Roy Conn and Jay Ghub. Roy Conn is the lawyer. He was um the chief counsel of Joseph McCarth McCarthy during the the communist witch hunts of the 1950s.

[01:54:02]Uh he was also the guy that like gave Donald Trump his start in New York politics and his like fixer, his advice guy. Um like super connected lawyer in New York. Probably the most feared lawyer in the history of New York. U and he was boys with uh with Jay Ghoover.

[01:54:20]Roy Con was also a gay man that denied he was gay and he died in 1986 of AIDS saying that it wasn't AIDS and uh he would he would hang out and party quite a bit with Jay Ghoover. Um so I don't know you make the call on that one. He might he might have gotten dressed up at a couple parties, but the fact that this one lady said it, it followed him around for the rest of his life and that's where like everybody gets the idea that he was like a constant uh crossdresser comes from. So that part might not have been true, but he did live with his mom until he was 40 and he had a very handsome deputy Clyde Toulson that probably dated until they both died.

[01:55:06]>> Was he living with his mom when he was head of the FBI? Yeah, >> that's fascinating.

[01:55:13]>> I see. You know how we were talking about like our ideal head of the FBI last week and like what we would in instead of a guy like Cash Patel. Cool guy. I'm sure I'd like to watch a hockey game with Cash.

[01:55:25]Maybe like go out to a few bars.

[01:55:28]>> Maybe go to his girlfriend's concert.

[01:55:29]>> Yeah, check out his his girlfriend's concert. Um, do I want this guy like working in the FBI, let alone heading it? No. like I don't I don't want any of my friends I can't name a single person that I know that I would want to head the FBI. So, not necessarily like a knock against you as a person. Um, but we were talking about like our ideal FBI director the other week where it's like a guy that he goes home, he eats the same dinner every night at like 900 p.m.

[01:55:56]>> Uh, 900 p.m.

[01:55:58]>> 8 9mm because he works all day, dude.

[01:56:00]>> Okay.

[01:56:01]>> Yeah. He's taking that's late. He's taking meetings late. He's a workholic.

[01:56:05]>> You want a psychopath? You want a man on fire? You want a psychopath at the head.

[01:56:09]>> I want a guy that is no nonsense. And Cash is like 90% nonsense, maybe more.

[01:56:17]And nonsense is great in in certain regards. Not to head the FBI. Um, but >> are you saying that living with your mom at 40 is something you would want or not want?

[01:56:27]>> I think I would probably be okay with Yeah.

[01:56:31]>> Interesting.

[01:56:32]>> You never had time to like get your own place.

[01:56:36]like work work becomes your spouse, you know. She's always like, "Go out, meet a nice girl." Mother, I've I'm too busy with my cases, >> but he takes good care of her. He takes good care of his mom. That's like his number one thing.

[01:56:50]>> Um, she's actually the one that's like trying to drag him out of the house on a Saturday to go like play bingo.

[01:56:55]>> And he's like, "I can't. I just I got to solve this kidnapping.

[01:56:59]>> Go on with this Tom Fillery, Mom."

[01:57:01]>> Yeah. I'll pick you up, mother. Just give me a call.

[01:57:05]So he's Yeah, he drops her off at bingo, then he just goes right to the office, picks her up later, goes home, has his one nice glass of scotch maybe on a Saturday, and that's it. That's the nonsense that I want for my FBI director. So I'm I'm not going to hold it against Jake Garoover, the fact that he lived at home until he was 40, which is that's a long time to live at home now that I think about it.

[01:57:26]>> Yeah.

[01:57:27]>> Yeah. Um, so he was Yeah. He kept files on everybody as I said had his own very special vendettas against everyone who's power hungry. But the the FBI as we know it exists pretty much in the image that he set forth for it. So he built the FBI from the ground up. So everything about it that is directly like from his brain, the use of informants, um the use of wire taps like he when he wiretapped uh MLK um that was probably against the law.

[01:57:55]definitely against the law. And he would wire he wiretapped JFK's bedroom.

[01:58:02]He had his intelligence chief put a a microphone in JFK or sorry, MLK's bedroom. And then after that, he sent the he sent MLK a recording of him having sex, just being like, "Hey, you should probably kill yourself because we caught you having sex."

[01:58:20]>> Yeah. I know they actually sent a letter uh to him saying like you should you should kill yourself.

[01:58:26]>> Yeah.

[01:58:27]>> He was like obsess he called Martin Luther King like the greatest threat to American >> Yep.

[01:58:33]>> Uh the American way. Like yo he was obsess he was obsessed with uh black liberation movements. Um got Fred Hampton killed.

[01:58:44]Wanted to wanted to disrupt um the Black Panthers. And so the Black Panthers were known for um you'll hear some dingbats still say to this day that the Black Panthers were a terrorist organization, but like literally all they did was like they had free breakfast programs.

[01:59:02]>> So they were giving people free breakfast and free healthcare in the neighborhoods that they was in. And when reported back to him that that's what they were doing, uh he was like, I don't care.

[01:59:12]>> Yeah.

[01:59:12]>> Do that [ __ ] Yeah. He just wanted to disband it.

[01:59:16]>> Yeah.

[01:59:17]>> Because Black Panthers were communist though.

[01:59:18]>> Yeah. He he did say that the uh it was he saw the civil rights move movement and anti-war movement as going hand in hand. And so if you supported one, you supported the other and you were communist. And he called the civil rights movement the greatest threat to the stability of the American government since the civil war. They're enemies of the state. In particular, MLK Jr. was an enemy of the state.

[01:59:43]and he uh he went to Bobby Kennedy and John Kennedy and told them like, "Hey, this MLK guy, he's bad news. He's a communist and uh they're using you. So if if you if you like MLK and you endorse MLK and what he stands for, they're actually secretly going to bring in a bunch of communists behind that and they're going to infect the United States with with communism. So, you better stop hanging out with him. I'm going to wiretap him. And he said that uh he sent his guy, Mr. Weiner, to go wiretap the bedrooms.

[02:00:25]And we said when it came down to bugging bedrooms, you had to be careful not to get caught. But there wasn't anything to stop him. He decided up to a point where the boundaries of the law were when it came to black jobs, breakins, bugging, surveillance, and the constitutionality of getting secret intelligence on America's enemies, both real and imagined.

[02:00:45]And the FBI also, this is where it gets kind of crazy, they also bugged JFK and taped him having sex.

[02:00:54]And if you got information about that, you're never going to get fired. So, he had blackmail like on his boss.

[02:01:03]>> That's wild.

[02:01:04]>> Yeah.

[02:01:06]>> So, he's the reason why there's a 10-year um limit on FBI director >> because no one man can have all that power.

[02:01:16]>> Yeah. Shout out.

[02:01:18]>> Shout out Kanye.

[02:01:19]>> Uh yeah, he was doing too much. He started getting too much power and started doing way too much crazy [ __ ] I think we ended up owning them though in the the long term because the building the Jagger Hoover building is an absolute trash looking building.

[02:01:35]>> A lot of the government buildings in DC are though.

[02:01:38]>> Yeah, that's true.

[02:01:39]>> They all look Russian.

[02:01:40]>> As the the the Hoover building in particular is it's terrible. It's a disgusting looking building. A low-rise office building.

[02:01:50]>> You'd think for a city with so many monuments and ornate stuff like the government buildings would be nice, but they're terrible.

[02:01:59]>> Yeah. Off the top of my head, the the nicest government buildings in Washington DC, I would say. Uh I the White House is a nicel looking building.

[02:02:09]>> Yeah, but I'm not I'm I'm talking about like the the Department of the Interior building and right, you know, all that stuff.

[02:02:14]>> I think one one is just the Kennedy Center.

[02:02:18]It's not even like a a department though, just for the arts. That's a really nice looking.

[02:02:23]>> The Congressional Office building is niceish.

[02:02:26]>> Yeah.

[02:02:28]>> But like the I I stayed one time. My hotel was right next to I think it was the Department of Education.

[02:02:33]>> Yeah.

[02:02:34]>> And it was just like the worst looking brutalist building you've ever seen.

[02:02:39]>> Let's see. I'm looking up one right now because I I think I remember the Health and Human Services building. Oh, no.

[02:02:44]That's a bad one, too.

[02:02:47]>> They're all just concrete blocks.

[02:02:48]>> Yeah, that's a really bad one. Health.

[02:02:50]That might be the worst now that I'm looking at it. This one. See that?

[02:02:54]>> Yeah. It's terrible.

[02:02:54]>> Terrible building.

[02:02:56]It does look like the government though when you >> I think I walked through there one time.

[02:03:02]>> Uh but yeah, Hoover building stinks.

[02:03:03]Hoover Dam is awesome, but that's different. Hoover.

[02:03:08]>> I didn't know that.

[02:03:09]>> That would be Herbert. Herbert Hoover.

[02:03:12]>> Really?

[02:03:12]>> Yeah. Um today's macro macro dosing is brought to you by Stella Blue Coffee.

[02:03:18]It's more than just great coffee. It's coffee with a purpose. That's why we started We Brew to Rescue. It's a nationwide campaign using proceeds from our new ready to drink cans to fund a thousand pet adoptions this year. Every can you crack open helps a real pet find a real home. Simple as that. It's made with 100% Colombian coffee. Each 11 oz can delivers smooth, drinkable energy with a boost of protein. Available in espresso cafe mocha and espresso sweet cream. Built for mornings, long days, everything in between. Drink Stella Blue, fuel your day, and save a pet's life. Um, that will do it for today's episode of Macro doing. We're doing Helen Killer next week.

[02:03:58]>> Okay, Big T.

[02:03:59]>> Looking forward to it.

[02:04:00]>> You down?

[02:04:01]>> Always.

[02:04:02]>> There was a guy that said that somewhere in history.

[02:04:06]>> There it probably is.

[02:04:08]We are Penn State.

[02:04:12]>> I'm lost.

[02:04:12]>> All right. Love you guys.

[02:04:14]>> Goodbye.

[02:04:20]I wish for you.