This is Why I Don’t Identify With Any Religion.

Added: 2026-05-20

[00:00:00]My prayer will always be let me not call on God for what money can do for me. So you created human beings and created them with weaknesses. Weaknesses that is beyond their control and then you send them to hellfire for falling victim to that weakness. I don't even think we should be going back to God for anything. I say if a god can punish me or send me to hellfire for not identifying with one particular religion then such a god does not deserve my worship.

[00:00:27]>> Marriage will best you. Do you know I can pick the Bible now? Edit the Bible to suit your narrative. Give it your own name and Christians will buy and read.

[00:00:36]>> A man can do anything they want to do in marriage but women cannot. You need any book to tell you what is bad or what is good. Marriage is a social construct.

[00:00:44]>> If you read the history of King James version, you realize that the King James who authorized the King James version was not even a Christian. He was a very abominable being. Nothing prepares you for marriage. There are over 4,300 religious world. I agree.

[00:00:59]>> And what are the odds that yours is the right one?

[00:01:02]>> I don't think man is created to marry. I don't think human beings are created to marry because if you check whatever you can get for marriage, you can get it without being married. Why should I trust it?

[00:01:29]you went below the belt, you know, you went more personal. Don't you think that your that your emotions got a better part of you know when you were trying to expose them? Don't you think that there were some things that that were confidential that you just be like, "Okay, uh, let me just get it out." Don't you think that >> there's only one fight that I took personal and I made it. I announced that this one is personal to me because the man almost killed me.

[00:02:00]>> The fat guy. The fat guy.

[00:02:02]>> And that is OC Benjamin.

[00:02:03]>> Yes.

[00:02:04]>> So I took that one personal. I've always said it. That one is personal for me. My fight with him because he's the genesis of all of these things. M >> it was um someone I once respected so much you know then when we were growing up you are his in spirit you want to be the best you can be for God you know and then you see a pastor who prays and people fall under the anointing he heals the crippled the blind allegedly >> even wakes up the dead according to what we made to believe then >> and then you didn't know they were lying No. Why would I? They even prophesy to me. The first time I met him was in his house. Come and see prophecy. I didn't know that before I went there that my information had been given to him. So he was immediately a lot of work or >> Mhm.

[00:03:01]>> research.

[00:03:03]>> A lot. Immediately he finished prophesying to me. He said I should start working for him.

[00:03:10]>> So who was I to say no? It was a big privilege and I started working for him and every crusade they go and wear plain tring put Holy Ghost field even started keeping hair like him because I was imitating my my papa we could say that come and be kabash do you know all those things believing that we're doing it for God I didn't know that they had other motives.

[00:03:43]>> When do you find out?

[00:03:45]>> I'll be in the I'll be in the altar praying and people that are also working for him. Most of the guys will be at the back ping their phone moving around to and through. Me I will properly dress those people sometime they will even go to churches or crusade with na you know pretend as if they don't know the pastor. down when we get home. If um if the pastor is appreciating appreciating the workers like the pastors for example sometimes you give people like me who carry the whole thing on our head 20k then you will give 100k to these other people >> they are now wondering but these guys are usually behind >> just pressing phone >> pressing phone I mean moving around what did they do why are they being appreciated more than me used to come and shout do opening prayer do all of that kabash see sweat standing >> he doesn't he doesn't know how to preach and I've always been good with teaching come and teach break the word of god preach and everybody is happy then was my role model in terms of teaching >> pastor there's someone here >> yeah yeah so what you ask me I think the video anyway is already online but Since you asked me, I'll just tell you >> how I got to find out was in Inugu in Aba. I will never forget the name of that road.

[00:05:19]>> Went for the church crusade.

[00:05:23]Got there. It was the hall was in it was a hotel.

[00:05:28]It was in inside a hotel. We also lodge in that hotel. and um during the crusade in the night like this. So I was I made opening prayers did all those things that I used to do and then just immediately the prophet came I handed over the mic to prophet >> the major prophet SSS that is what he calls him call him call himself so I handed over the the >> I see I see and go to the matter >> oh >> that is the ss so I gave him the mic while he was preaching and profing prophesied me. I went back to my room.

[00:06:12]All right, you remember it's the same hotel.

[00:06:15]>> Went back to my room to I was sweating of course because of the violent prayer when we killing witches and wizard just change come down again.

[00:06:27]I was still in my room I know a knock on my door.

[00:06:33]I opened the door was angry looking sass people you know and then that was when kidnapping was going rampant in Enugu the first question they asked me was are you are you Armstrong I said yes >> h you know that kind of slap that covers both your ear nose eyes mouth everywhere >> that was the kind of slap I received before I know they don't put hand from my west I mean they drag me the go >> just because you are Armstrong slap just enter.

[00:07:07]>> I didn't know what I did and then I was very confused.

[00:07:12]They pour my sleeveless you tie my hand behind my back and drag me downstairs.

[00:07:18]So when I got there before we went for that crusade I had three friends four friends actually but what I saw in the ve was three.

[00:07:29]>> Yes. them. So they came for they heard we were doing a crusade in Inugu and of course these are guys you know guys and they were wondering now so you are now a pastor >> some of them were students in UNN they came for the crusade because of me and they were in the crowd when the S people dragged me downstairs I saw these people inside van the SAS people's uh van killersh Ah, I didn't know what they did. I saw them.

[00:08:02]They were they've been beaten up and they were inside there. So the S people asked me, do you know these guys? I could not deny my friends. Now I said yes that I know them. The next thing the police Oh, so you were the one who invited them to come and kidnap the pastor.

[00:08:22]>> Your pastor.

[00:08:25]See crowd everywhere. The crowd were there. They started cursing me. The same people who were praising me just few minutes ago after I finished praying know who were falling under anointing.

[00:08:37]Cing you are wicked, you are this, you are this. The whole place was I was still lost my brother. That was how they picked me and threw me inside the van too.

[00:08:50]So what happened was that when I was in the room the prophet when he was uh doing his miracle so-called miracle wanted to heal one blind man a supposed >> blind person >> blind person. Now the person the man wanted to heal was hired to stage that miracle.

[00:09:19]Now the one of those those my friends that came recognized the man because the man came from Musa.

[00:09:29]So they recognized him and then when he was trying to heal the man they were like this man is not blind now. They know this man. M >> is it not this man they s here?

[00:09:39]>> Mhm.

[00:09:40]>> I don't know if you're getting it. They tried to talk to the prophet and in the process of doing that commotion the prophet now wanted to defend himself.

[00:09:49]You know if that cast you stage miracle >> in order to ensure that everything is in order that prophet raised the alarm that he has been threatened by some people that they've been threatening to kidnap him and these are the kidnappers they came to the church I play like play before you know hotel locked their gate s people came and caught those my The people you say came to kidnap you, you did not catch them with one even blade, not to talk of gun.

[00:10:30]>> You did not catch them with weebar, not to talk of a bicycle.

[00:10:34]>> You did not catch them with anything.

[00:10:37]So, and if people want to come and kidnap you is inside a congregation filled with people >> people >> inside a hotel and they will catch you and put you on their head. I mean running we have kidnapped you like it wasn't making sense but of course that is the corruption we >> we have in Nigeria the pastor just whatever he gave to the s people they took us to their cell there. How did you get involved? They mentioned that they came because of you.

[00:11:09]>> So when they were being beaten, he they were now saying that they are not kidnappers. That I was the one who invited them to the crusade.

[00:11:16]>> Okay.

[00:11:17]>> So then now turned it that I was the one who invited them to come and kidnap.

[00:11:22]>> So I'm the leader of the gang.

[00:11:25]>> It was a personal story for you.

[00:11:27]>> Do you understand? I almost died in that cell. I spent 3 weeks. Nobody knew where I was. None of my people knew that I was there.

[00:11:35]>> The pastor didn't reach out to you later when when >> the pastor later came there now.

[00:11:41]The pastor later came to that place after they tried to poison me.

[00:11:46]>> H say now go kill you. I mean I come and kill you.

[00:11:51]>> That one the policeman bring brought in a sprite very chewed sprite and give to me to drink.

[00:11:57]>> Opened already >> opened. It was tied in a line. You know they don't allow bottles inside cell.

[00:12:02]Now >> the woman who used to serve food was the one who brought it when he gave me said um it's a guy not not a lady. He a guy weigh that and find before you drink more. I'll never forget that thing.

[00:12:18]I still hold hand one of the OC to be now waiting in the column snatched it >> a cellmate >> and drank. He didn't wake up the next day. He just died.

[00:12:31]>> I lie.

[00:12:32]>> The the IPO my IPO came very early in the morning and called my name. I I answered he didn't know when he said so you are still alive.

[00:12:45]H we didn't know that that guy had died.

[00:12:51]>> You thought he was still sleeping.

[00:12:52]>> We thought he was still sleeping.

[00:12:57]Hm. Do you understand? None. When the pastor came and we had a meeting in the OC SAS office when they invited LC the OCS was like okay what's trying to find the way around the whole thing and then he told us the when I started speaking told us that I want to want want both of us to speak left the the room for for for both of us.

[00:13:29]This man, I was like, "What did I do to you?" Because I was a very good loyal boy who was just following you like I was seeing the guy as a mentor, a pastor.

[00:13:42]In fact, I didn't know that I was in because I was lost in thought.

[00:13:48]A lot of things were just going through my head.

[00:13:53]He said um now that I have known all these things but he has two just two options for me and I start working for him or I will remain here and if I remain here he will not guarantee my safety if I come out and I refuse to work for him that he will also not guarantee my safety that this >> the man of God >> yes I'm calling Benjamin I've said this story many times now.

[00:14:23]>> Yes.

[00:14:23]>> And I've dared him I've even gone to a boy state commissioner of police for this case written a page. I've dared him to sue me. Let's >> I remember one music he said.

[00:14:39]>> So that is why when it comes to him I take it very personally.

[00:14:42]>> Yes. I saw the I saw the personal >> the you took it so personal. I think I had somebody ask you whether you're a Christian in your podcast. You said you are not >> currently you you are not a Christian.

[00:14:57]>> No, I'm not.

[00:14:58]>> So, what are you?

[00:15:00]>> I'm not a Christian.

[00:15:01]>> Yes. I'm I'm saying what are you?

[00:15:03]>> I'm a human being. Which one is what am I? What am I? What sense?

[00:15:08]>> You know, you know, you must have to identify with religion.

[00:15:13]>> No, no, no. You must have to believe with me. A a human being is is is a faith-based creation. You know there there's a belief system. Do you know why >> you sleep and say is let's I hope to see you tomorrow. You're going to say safe journey is a belief that you will go and come back.

[00:15:40]>> That you believe something doesn't necessarily mean you believe in. You know when I say I'm not a Christian, people don't understand it. People feel like I'm saying I don't believe in God.

[00:15:50]>> No, that is that is not what I accepted.

[00:15:53]>> Now are you now are you now are you now uh okay you you are you are a non-Christian.

[00:15:59]>> I am a non-Christian.

[00:16:01]>> So what do you identify as?

[00:16:03]>> I don't want that. I don't want that.

[00:16:05]>> Just just listen. I don't want that level >> that tag.

[00:16:09]>> I don't want that level. You le this face in a a Muslim. You le this face in a Christian.

[00:16:15]>> You have to you have to brand like me.

[00:16:18]>> Were you born with any tag?

[00:16:21]>> No.

[00:16:21]>> So why why why why why were you not born with any le?

[00:16:25]>> Let me now induct you to my own type of religion at least so that maybe if people ask you you can tell them and then they will rest because if you keep saying you aren't a Christian and they say what are you now? You say nothing.

[00:16:36]>> They will not. So so me now I I say I'm a realist. is also a religion.

[00:16:42]>> Is a religion >> is a tag. You're giving yourself a tag.

[00:16:45]>> No. No. And that is why I prefer not.

[00:16:48]>> Who was who was who? See see >> see every religion is attached to a human being. Christian was Christ.

[00:16:58]Buddhaism was Buddha.

[00:17:01]Okay. Uh Muslim Muhammad. You know a lot of them. There's one called regenism was one guy called regionist. So realists are attached predicated on a pattern of belief and thinking.

[00:17:19]>> How is how is being >> being a realist is a pattern of belief and thinking.

[00:17:25]>> So where do we go when we die? Every every >> belief your belief is that you don't go anywhere that you don't know. That is your belief.

[00:17:34]>> No.

[00:17:34]>> Now look at let me tell you what I >> No. A realist is is is actually about what is in front of him.

[00:17:44]A realist say okay when I die I will know where I will be now. That's a realist for you. So but every religion have an answer to where they will go after and if you don't provide the answer nobody will follow you. That is one thing.

[00:17:57]>> Okay let me tell just hold on let me explain to you.

[00:18:03]>> Okay.

[00:18:04]>> All right. First I need to say that I did not stop being a Christian because of experience I had with pastors.

[00:18:13]>> Mhm.

[00:18:13]>> No, that is not it. Even after I had those ugly experiences with pastors, I was still a Christian.

[00:18:21]>> Mhm.

[00:18:22]>> All right. And I don't say I'm not a Christian because I feel uh there should not be Christianity.

[00:18:32]I've come to a point where I believe in God. I believe there is a supernatural intelligent being, the source of all creation, the source of life. Whether we call it God, whether we call it whatever name we give it to, >> but God was man-made >> whether >> so you whatever name we give it to.

[00:18:57]>> And that is why I'm saying the source of creation.

[00:18:59]>> Yes. The mother of creation.

[00:19:01]>> Yes. That is what I refer to as a god.

[00:19:05]>> All right. And of course, religion has their own god and definition of god.

[00:19:09]Christians have their own god. Muslims have their own god. But the god I'm talking about is the source of creation.

[00:19:15]I believe that the universe is too uh structurally designed to have just happened by chance. That is a conscious being. If we as a human being can have intelligence, it means we came from an intelligent source.

[00:19:35]And that intelligent source is what I refer to as God. Now I also believe that that intelligent source is not as human being. It doesn't have this features of things. M >> when came religion came and separated human beings we say this person belongs to God this group of you belong to God this other group belongs to the devil Christians will make heaven Muslims who go to hell fire Hinduist will do this there are over 4,300 religious word I agree >> and what are the odds that yours is the right one >> there's no assurance >> all right so that was uh >> what you just put into consideration and what I put into consideration and I say if a god can punish me or send me to hellfire for not identifying with one particular religion then such a god does not deserve my worship why would you create me >> but god never said that >> yes and that is why I'm saying god never said that it's Christians that said god said it and it's their own god just like Muslims say their own god said this every religion have what their own god said and that is a big confusion What do you think about the Bible?

[00:20:51]>> The Bible?

[00:20:51]>> I've I've had um an interview with Dina.

[00:20:56]>> Mhm.

[00:20:57]>> In fact, first interview with I had with Dina was the most firefall interview I've ever had with any preacher >> where we talked about the authenticity of the Bible. But now that you're asking me my personal belief about the Bible, I don't believe that an intelligent being like God will put his message, his whatever it is he want to pass to the world in a book that can be corrupted by man.

[00:21:33]So I don't believe in the Bible. I don't believe in the Quran. I don't believe in any that you believe. I just say what do you think about the Bible?

[00:21:41]>> That is what that is what I'm telling you. I'm telling you what I think about them. I'm I'm telling you >> it's something you don't believe in.

[00:21:47]>> The Bible and every holy book, they were written by men, right?

[00:21:54]>> Yes.

[00:21:55]>> So what assurance do I have that this thing that were written by men are truly the authentic word of God? The Bible has errors scattered everywhere. presented this to then and he said it's a problem of interpretation and translation. So if the Bible can be corrupted why should I trust it do you know I can pick the Bible now you can do the same >> yes >> edit the Bible >> to suit your narrative >> to suit your narrative give it your own name >> publish it and Christians will buy and read >> Mhm.

[00:22:33]>> NIV has missing verses in them. M >> if you read the history of King James version, you realize that the King James who authorized the King James version was not even a Christian.

[00:22:47]>> Yes, >> he was a very abominable being.

[00:22:52]King James historically and the King James was put together as a divine law to put his kingdom together not because he so much loved God and it was written to suit that particular narrative.

[00:23:10]So I do not believe in any holy book. I believe that if God want to send me a message I already know you like this. If you want to do any bad thing, your conscience used to tell you. Is that not correct?

[00:23:22]>> Do you need any book to tell you what is bad or what is good?

[00:23:25]>> No.

[00:23:26]>> So why do you have to read a book written by men, published by men, translated by men and can be corrupted by men.

[00:23:35]>> I I may I may I may agree with you that uh Bible may not be judged as the authentic word of God because God did not write it.

[00:23:44]>> Okay. But I think Bible is the most intelligent literature.

[00:23:49]>> It is.

[00:23:50]>> Bible is the most intelligent literature ever. You know >> it is >> it's so topical. You know these are people's experiences.

[00:23:58]>> It is >> Bible has survived a lot of years. And then you see even do you know the funny thing everybody quotes Bible one or two times like once you just just say something and then is in is in the Bible. M >> so so so I may not agree that Bible is the authentic code of God because God did not breathe in those tests in the Bible and I think that the word of God is in our head the brain I you know my prayer is my prayer will always be let me not call on God for what money can do for me >> you know God has finished whatever I don't even think we should be going back to God for anything.

[00:24:44]>> You know, I'm not somebody that uh I don't condemn, but I would tell you that maybe I'm not really into this. You know, I don't see why we should be praying to a god that have given us brain.

[00:24:59]The the three brothers that introduced aeroplane did not pray to God to give them an aeroplane. You know when Jesus Christ died in the Bible, he did not say it will finish or I will finish it he say it is finished. So sometimes even Christians don't even understand what they actually go to church for. This brain this brain this is the God we carry.

[00:25:25]This brain this brain god has created brain and started creating. So if you see people that uh that are going to church calling on God and everything I think that you missing the point >> do you know what I just jotted down >> confirm to be sure I still remember >> okay >> in Jeremiah 31:33 >> where God said he will no longer write his will in a book but in the heart of men.

[00:25:56]>> God said it or Jeremiah said it.

[00:25:59]Jeremiah was prophesi was seeing go what he say. You see you're not contradicting yourself.

[00:26:05]>> No I'm not contradicting Jeremiah said because it was the book of Jeremiah. Now >> yes Jeremiah is known as a prophet for the Christians.

[00:26:12]>> That's how most of the authors were were also known. So >> these contradictions the word of God >> this contradictions in the Bible is my problem.

[00:26:21]>> So this part is saying that God will write his will in the heart of men. And the same Bible is also saying that we should read the Bible.

[00:26:31]>> Contradiction is the is one of the rules of life, you know, to create a balance.

[00:26:37]>> Yeah. So there won't be go if there's no com there's this puzzle of where did the egg come from? Did the come from the egg or the egg come from the You know just like I heard somebody say uh there must be polarity there must be uh opposite you know there is lie and there is truth you will not know a fake naira if there was no real naira okay that's how life is life is created like that that's why you go see hospital they go build where they go treat you and build muary so that if you know green hill they go still collect the money from So life is about contradictions. If you don't contradict life, you won't appreciate life. There must be opposing factors. You know they don't they carry first out of one. You carry first out of 20, out of 30, out of there must be people that you must be compared to.

[00:27:39]>> Monopoly does not help life. That's why they say variety is the spice of life.

[00:27:44]So contradiction is actually a part of it. So that is what makes the Bible beautiful too because uh anywhere you enter you must collect and there is nothing that is absolute.

[00:27:59]>> Yeah.

[00:28:00]>> You want to >> again I don't people like me I don't claim to there's no end to my leaning.

[00:28:08]>> I'm an open book.

[00:28:10]>> I'm always read it should >> so there's no end. I can't say this is the definitive answer.

[00:28:18]>> I'm telling you that this stage that I am now, this is what I know. This is this is the highest level of information I have and I'm walking with that.

[00:28:30]>> Tomorrow I can get a superior argument >> and I would change.

[00:28:34]>> Of course, >> I'm not and that is a problem with religion. Religion teaches you to continuously hold >> don't ask questions >> with one thing without asking questions.

[00:28:44]>> Yes.

[00:28:44]>> And it's a problem for people like me. I would always want to ask questions because if I don't ask questions, I will not lean. And if I don't lean, I will become outdated.

[00:28:55]>> Yes. That's why I don't really agree with the story of Adam and Eve.

[00:28:58]>> You know the power to question. You know the power to question.

[00:29:02]has been here and you see Adam and Eve were not the first first by God. You see God give us brain to question and why he telling me not to use what God gave me the power >> suspend it >> to do >> suspend it >> you know so you know why I stopped going to church actually you will see me I'm very very I have a lot of um respect for church and pastors because my mom was one and then I don't really even if I see a pastor I don't like I just keep the opinions to myself. I have other things I want to talk about than than about somebody that says he's a man of God. I stopped going to church because my pastor goes up on on the on the stage and and started using the word must.

[00:29:48]God must do it. It must be like this.

[00:29:51]Once you do this, this must happen. Once you worship God, it must be like this.

[00:29:57]Once you do this one, my God cannot fail. If we put it on the table, your God has even in the Bible, you know, when a die, you will hear that is because what he's doing has caught up with him. Nemesis, nemesis, nemesis that I thought he's I thought he's But when you see a pastor die, they say is the will of God that God has called him. But both of them died prematurely.

[00:30:33]So if you put it on the table, I will give you instances where what you say God cannot do or because God is there.

[00:30:42]You know my mom my mom my mom late Don Gloria Egodo you know the type of dedication that my mom gave to to to Christianity and serving God. you know, if you put it on the table, my mom my mom is not is not supposed to die of diabetes and um die at 53.

[00:31:06]You know, this is a woman that believe that by his stripes she was she's healed. This is a woman that that believe that his her body is is is the temple of God and the body cannot be body not iniquity. I think there's what they call sickness >> you know say your your body is not a body where if disease cannot live in just body cannot live in your body you know church where if they sick they say is well you know and then and then I look at my mom die and you know >> did not do anything >> you know I just begin to say this is the reality of life. Bimbo Odoya was one of the best best preachers alive. The mother of this Jimmy Odoya I used to watch her tapes. Bimbo Dya's tape were selling more than movies.

[00:32:02]Dinko Dukoya was in either Belleview or um a that that plane crash that time.

[00:32:09]Did you know that Bimbo died the PA survived?

[00:32:13]This is a this is a woman that is at the point of going to at least at least some people were waiting for her to minister even if even if he's that mumuro >> and that great black American I be I think black but yes he is >> one of the greatest preachers look at how they left so reality is beyond any religion you have to understand that don't it is just pyon facts Don't come nothing is absolute just say that >> if you do this possibly this this this I tip Christianity above any other religion I don't because when you say things that you don't agree with Christianity people think that you are that I you know don't bring that to me even that one is worst >> because there's no template for eb tradition >> anybody can tell you anything >> anybody should do whatever they want >> and go to four different DBS they will give you four different apha >> you get so I think because Christianity >> and every community has their own >> yes you go so so Christianity >> so the problem with religion as a whole good Christianity Islam and the rest of them is just their concept of God >> yes >> that is just the only problem I have with them for you to come and tell me that God is going to heal you.

[00:33:44]>> Yes.

[00:33:45]>> No.

[00:33:47]For you to come and tell me that two people had an accident and one person died and you come back to give testimony that it was God that saved you that survived >> that that's lack of emotional intelligence.

[00:34:00]>> What kind of God >> very very >> comes to the scene of accident >> save one person >> and save only one person and leave the other. Is it that he's incapable of saving the two? If he's incapable of saving the two, why do we say that he's God?

[00:34:17]>> Yes.

[00:34:18]>> And if he's capable of saving the two, why did he save only you? People will say h he will have mercy on whom he will have mercy on. If that is the case, if God will have mercy on whom he will have mercy, >> that's partial. That's partiality.

[00:34:34]>> That is partiality. And that your God is not a partial God. And that creates a problem. How then do you please a God that will have mercy on whom he will have mercy on?

[00:34:46]>> Yes.

[00:34:46]>> So it is not your action that determines if he will have mercy on you or not.

[00:34:54]>> Yes.

[00:34:54]>> It is not what you do. It is not your prayer. It is not your fasting. It is whomsoever he decide to. Yes.

[00:35:00]>> How do you please such a God? It's like you I don't know what you want. How can I please you if I don't know what you want?

[00:35:06]>> Yes. So it create a very big question and how do you explain to me that an almighty god like you've described is so jobless to the fact that he goes about filling people's cooking gas >> he goes about making people's meter ne >> he goes about >> is he goes about depositing 5,000 and 10,000 into people's account miracle money >> there's what they call when that one is asking When there are bigger issues in this world to say to you are busy depositing people's account with 10,000 naira so a rich god cannot give me money that will be sufficient enough to to end poverty you are giving me 10,000 20,000 and J has an old pay bank branch in heaven where they distributing 10,000 and this is happening in big churches and they are celebrating it giving testimony using it to justify the the the power of God.

[00:36:08]>> All loving God, you know, all all loving.

[00:36:11]>> So there are just so many things we so many things wrong with that God.

[00:36:16]>> You know, we are in this mess today because God refused to forgive Satan.

[00:36:21]>> But this is the end of this interview.

[00:36:25]>> You know that if God forgive Satan that all these are over and then and then you want me to forgive a girl that I sent transport fair >> and they not come.

[00:36:36]No, I'm a married man. I did not send any girl to portra.

[00:36:40]>> That's why I can never understand the concept of hellfire.

[00:36:43]How can you create human beings and you send them to devil that did not participate in the creation because the person sinned against you?

[00:36:52]>> Who lose? So you created you created human beings and created them with weaknesses.

[00:37:00]Weaknesses that is beyond their control.

[00:37:03]And then you send them to hellfire for falling victim to that weakness >> that they did not create for themselves.

[00:37:09]>> That they did not create for themselves.

[00:37:11]>> How the devil contribute in in in the creation that you'll be sending your children. Imagine you now you are Kichi Armstrong.

[00:37:20]>> Imagine your father now have seven children and then you do something now.

[00:37:25]They say I am go to you for child because you did this. Hulu's.

[00:37:35]So that's why that's why I am actually I am I love being real.

[00:37:41]>> And do you know everybody is going to hellfire?

[00:37:44]>> Of course everybody >> including the Christians.

[00:37:46]>> Everybody if we follow if we follow >> if we follow their philosophy everybody is going to hellfire.

[00:37:52]>> Everybody. Yes. Everybody everybody is.

[00:37:55]>> We are all going to one another's hellfire.

[00:37:57]>> Yes. In Christianom, Catholics will go to the hellfire of churches like uh assemblies redeem to Jehovah witness right because they pray to maybe they they pray to saints.

[00:38:13]>> Yes, >> they do all sorts of things that the Pentecostals do.

[00:38:16]>> No, you don't pray to idol. You don't pray to have that.

[00:38:19]>> So Catholics by the by the philosophy of Christians, Catholics are going to the hellfire of these other Pentecostal churches. And the Pentecostal churches are going to the hellfire of Catholic churches. And for example, mountain of fire where they say do not wear trouser.

[00:38:36]If you wear trouser, you go to hellfire.

[00:38:38]Mountain of um >> Christ embassy.

[00:38:40]>> Christ embassy people go to the hell fire >> of mountain of fire >> of mountain of fire. So you will go there you will see the mountain of fire telling you to come into our >> our own hair. So everybody is going to the hair of everybody.

[00:38:53]>> By the way mountain of fire just reminded me now. I did 3 days fasting >> dry fasted there. My mom took us there.

[00:39:01]You know that was when I realized what blatimos saw >> when Jesus healed him immunity. You know he say he saw men walking like trees.

[00:39:15]You know, you know, you know, you know, you know that today's passage I really saw men, you know, walking. You know, sometimes you don't have to Bible is powerful. You must relate one day, whether good or bad.

[00:39:26]You know, I saw I you know, I saw men know you will look up you know that old ceiling there we used to have you'll be looking at it you'll be seeing cake.

[00:39:37]Hunger is hunger is a very silly thing.

[00:39:41]One of the things you will try to to kill in this your life is poverty.

[00:39:46]No. Why would I be fasting? You look at somebody's head, it appears like catfish. Oh god. Oh god. My mama born that time. Say I don't chop that girl. I just say because you see hand fresh like shama you know lap of chicken.

[00:40:09]Church is uh church is uh you know I don't pity people that are being uh that are being cooled with by pastors and men of God. you went to you know I don't you know it ears control you know just like I normally agree with exactly you know reality when he hit you when he hit you my wife my wife actually gave birth through premature you know premature you know with everything I told my wife that if not money is either you are gone or the baby is gone >> though that we had this our last baby that that we had a last baby now that died premature uh premature uh baby too you know >> and everything I said this is what money can help us do if not you would have been going up and down the type of hospital that we went to give birth you know you don't hear anybody in their in their word praying father do it father do it father do it father do it let the baby turn let the baby Nobody is praying there once you bring money.

[00:41:26]So, so, so the goal is not to be calling on God for what money can do for you.

[00:41:33]So, thank you. Thank you. I think uh we have to end it here because it's getting too long.

[00:41:40]>> Yes. I I just needed to say one or two things about um about um about marriage >> before we end it. You know I've been married for 4 years.

[00:41:50]You know God gave me a very beautiful wifeisha.

[00:41:55]Shout out for her. If not for her I don't think I'll be here today. She was able to to come halfway with me and then uh we we made life together. Okay. She's uh she's somebody that uh apart from my mom, she has been the one person that believed in what I'm doing and then she now did it or does it with me. But uh I think marriage is um is a social construct. I don't think man is created to marry.

[00:42:25]I don't think human beings are created to marry actually because if you check whatever you can get from marriage you can get it without being married because you will see a lot of there are a lot of issues because of marriage there's a lot of issues there's a mental problems people the the the society it's so bent on marriage and check at the top level of life nobody's marriage mattered. There's no great man you will hear that one of the things that made him great was marriage. That's why when you look at them personally is either they are divorced or they have 10 girlfriends or they have 100 women or because it doesn't matter where greatness is nobody will say how many wife did they marry did they last in marriage did they do this one they say marriage is an institution right institution is like school is an institution right just like marriage should be for school they they go break I think marriage I know they say poor break you Let let themselves.

[00:43:35]Marriage is when it becomes too suffocating.

[00:43:39]You know you know marriage has dealt with men and then uh and then a lot of women are not surviving because a man can do anything they want to do in marriage but women cannot. So there are a lot of pressures. So I am actually I'm a married man. So most married men may actually connect with with what I'm saying. I've told my wife that if anything happens to this marriage, if anybody tell me about marriage again you get because because you've seen you you see yourself just struggling to keep up with just one person. Just one person >> now you are frightening me that he's not married.

[00:44:24]>> You're not married.

[00:44:25]>> I'm not frightening you. I'm just telling you you know you know you know they talk >> they say marriage is >> is a package that you don't know what is inside.

[00:44:38]>> Yeah.

[00:44:40]>> There is no amount of marriage class that you will go to that will tell you about marriage. Do you know why most people are not married? Actually marriage will test your anointing as a man of God.

[00:44:54]Marriage will test your anointing. Your wife go tell you say you are not going anywhere. This not say this anointing marriage will test you. Marriage whatever you think you know your talent your greatness marriage brings it at the table and marriage test it. Nothing prepares you for marriage.

[00:45:14]Once you enter, you go see him.

[00:45:17]So for for people like you, you just have to if you marry early, you go see him early. If you marry late, you go late.

[00:45:26]So, so they say marry early, marry late.

[00:45:28]>> I must not marry now.

[00:45:29]>> You I must not marry now. Once I give one, >> what do you want marriage that they plan to give one girl ble now?

[00:45:37]>> What? What do you want to get a marriage that you cannot get outside?

[00:45:39]>> Once I give her children, >> twins, ps, >> give me.

[00:45:46]>> Shout out to my wife. Shout out to my wife. Shout out to my wife. I'm somebody that uh when uh difficult situations actually makes me better you know you know I'm not saying I have a bad marriage we say I because >> now you talk we we we people say what they want to say >> you know >> see when people talk about good marriage I've um I've had a couple of married friends and I still have them and and they have beautiful marriages but that does not mean that every day that everything is rosy everything is um >> do you know what is beautiful marriage >> exactly that is the point I'm driving at >> all right so beautiful when when people talk about beautiful marriage people like me understand it not as a marriage that doesn't have problems >> problems will always come in the unity of two people there will always be disagreements There will always be struggles. There will always be all of that. So, but having the ability to resolve those issues amicably without breaking somebody's head and still agreeing to continue in that one ship regardless of what is um how anybody feels about it.

[00:47:11]Marriage love doesn't sustain relationships. least of all marriage is commitment and commitment remains there even if it's beautiful or it's ugly as long as it's not lifethreatening.

[00:47:26]>> Yes, a lot of women want to marry a great person. But do you know the consequence of marrying a great person >> somebody that is ambitious? That thing that you saw in him, a lot of women saw see and they and they are ready to come in even when you are there. Can you actually a great man is busy.

[00:47:46]A great man is not a family person.

[00:47:48]>> He will not remember to send you flowers every day.

[00:47:51]>> He will not remember to text you every morning.

[00:47:54]>> So you know I I I married um my my wife because uh she is very opinionated.

[00:48:06]You know, I dated a girl that she was very homely, you know, very wely, but I know I don't need a homely person or those good wife person. I need a strong person because to me, I'm somebody that is training my wife like I will die tomorrow. I want if I die, I will know that I left somebody that is strong because I know what what my mom went through as a widow. So, I don't want that good woman type of person. I want a strong person. But before you choose that person that you want, remember that there are consequences. A strong opinionated person too may not know how not to face you with that strong opinions because some ladies know how to maybe return channel that strong opinions to to outside not to her man, you know. So, so, so you see a lot of men, they want a good woman that can keep the home, that can, you know, and then they'll be admiring you that married a strong woman that is always flying from one country to the other and then they start calling their own wife lazy, unambitious, you know. Then you see a man that married the strong the strong woman that and then the woman doesn't stay at home.

[00:49:23]She doesn't start comparing it no mar >> every choices we make we should test the consequences >> if you sleep with a woman unprotectedly be ready if you yes to have a child or to treat infections don't act surprise when when they say you have this one >> you people laughing evil evil children >> be ready to face the consequences. If you say you want to sleep in church 10 days, be ready to face consequences.

[00:50:02]>> If you say you don't want to serve God, you know, every choice we make, test the consequences. You want to go.

[00:50:10]>> Thank you very much.

[00:50:11]>> Thank you my leader. Thank you.

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