Why Nobody Touches Ancient Rome's REAL Origin Story... | Jeremy Ryan Slate

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[00:00:00]There is something so obviously brutal and like and I don't obviously mean this in a compliment like beastly in nature.

[00:00:11]>> You could say that because that throughout history and >> it's kind of a less civilized way of being I guess you could say in a lot of ways >> of course but the reality is that you're talking about something that happened in 600 700 BC.

[00:00:24]She talks about the first Roman emperor Romulus. And if you look at Romulus, there's this kind of trope. Did he give his name to the city or did the city give the name to Romulus?

[00:00:33]>> Because he's this Mr. Rome character.

[00:00:35]Anything we don't know where it came from, well, of course Romulus did it.

[00:00:39]>> And if you look at these seven mythical kings, there's >> things that Romans didn't know how to explain, they tied them to different things that Roman kings might have brought in. So, it's a really kind of interesting way to talk about your history by having these mythical characters that probably if they were anything, they were warlords. They weren't like kings like we would see kings. So, he's the least likely of the seven traditional kings to have actually existed.

[00:01:04]>> But they were suckling from the wolf.

[00:01:06]>> Romulus and Remis. Yeah.

[00:01:07]>> Romulus and Reheis. And then Remis eventually dies. What was the story with that again?

[00:01:11]>> It's coming back.

[00:01:12]>> There's like five different versions of it. So, it depends on which one you prefer. Um, Romulus and Reheis both decide that they're going to found their own cities. And in one of the stories, they both pick Rome. And Romulus kills his brother because he sees six vultures hovering over this area. I had a awesome professor in grad school, Dr. Sha Lake, and uh, the word for for six in in Latin is sex. So he he saw sex vultures and he goes, "That was my band in high school."

[00:01:42]But um, >> when when you look at that So it really could be by fratricside that Rome was actually founded.

[00:01:50]>> And then early on he founds Rome by pulling in whatever criminals or whatever people that were around there to found this city and they're mostly men. And early on the way that they get their women um can I say the R word on YouTube?

[00:02:08]>> You can say whatever you want.

[00:02:09]>> Okay. So um >> we'll mark it.

[00:02:11]>> It's what's called the uh the of uh the Sabine women. M >> so they these first Roman men don't have any women so they invite this neighboring people called the Sabines to dinner and during dinner the men kidnap and all the women and that is apparently where the first Roman children are said to have come from and the Sabine men decide they're going to rescue the women and the women decide well even though these men have just them apparently they're our husbands now >> and that is one of the major founding stories of where Rome comes from it comes out of this terrible event of this man that likely killed his brother to found a city.

[00:02:50]You know, you know what's crazy though?

[00:02:55]There is something so obviously brutal and like and I don't obviously mean this in a compliment like beastly in nature. say that because that throughout history and >> it's kind of a less civilized way of being I guess you could say >> of course but the reality is that you're talking about something that happened in 600 700 BC >> but these things still happen today all over the world it's a part of war. Yeah.

[00:03:23]>> And and and I don't I say that obviously decrying it. It's it's horrible. But >> it's people think like the world is so different from like some of the [ __ ] you see is like a writeoff in Game of Thrones. That human nature doesn't change when you know people aren't around and the most brutal things have been going on and you know a bunch of hyped up dudes with guns who have just conquered some new place decide hey I got to let off some steam. If you even look at um like I know this is way off topic but Gangghaskhan and a lot of his conquering they would the women and the territories they moved into because it wasn't about like the sexual punishment.

[00:04:02]It was about ending the line of those people.

[00:04:04]>> Yeah.

[00:04:04]>> And making the pe the line continue now with them.

[00:04:07]>> So there is historically a lot of real brutalenness to to conquest.

[00:04:13]>> The obsession with bloodlines >> yes >> is right in the same vein.

[00:04:18]>> Ask the plantaginets about that. You know the the plantaginets the uh early English kings.

[00:04:23]>> The last plantaginate is Henry VIIth or not Henry the 7th uh Richard III >> and Henry VIIth is the first tutor monarch.

[00:04:31]>> So English people really care about their bloodlines.

[00:04:34]>> Wait wait wait. What does that mean?

[00:04:36]Going from plant what?

[00:04:38]>> Okay. So um plantaginet. So >> to tutor >> Henry the Henry the I think it's Henry I is the first um monarch. He comes from uh from France and uh he marries Eleanor of Aquatine and they create this kind of English dynasty that's called the Plantaginets. And a lot of the famous rulers that you know in English history come out of this Plantaginet line. Like the son of Henry II is Richard the Lionheart and his brother King John.

[00:05:08]>> And then they would like they would [ __ ] each other though. Like they the cousins would be the ones that they have.

[00:05:13]>> That's how it worked because they wanted to keep the bloodlines together. Like for some reason to these people these bloodlines really matter. It's kind of freaky.

[00:05:19]>> Yeah. But how like >> that's where the phrase blue blood comes from because it's like you're intermingling the bloods.

[00:05:25]>> Oh, but like a lot of them weren't. So how does that >> Oh, yes and no. Because you could go back to Alexander the Great now and he had a brother named Philip Erdus that uh had a lot of mental disabilities and was likely from inbreeding and things like that.

[00:05:40]>> Some of that obviously some of that it does happen but you would think it would happen like every time. You know what I mean? When you're that close, I mean, you have brothers and sisters sometimes, like, >> you know, that is biologically not the way the universe has designed things to be at all.

[00:05:54]>> And some of that still happens today, by the way.

[00:05:56]>> Well, look, look at royal families, right? They're all related in some way, >> right? They all tie back together.

[00:06:02]That's definitely a little scary.

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[00:06:09]>> But it back back on the Alexander thing just cuz I'm like very obsessed with that. So being obsessed with Alexander, by the way, is what got me interested in Rome. My library at home, I have an obnoxious number of books on Alexander the Great.

[00:06:20]>> But you're not an expert on him.

[00:06:22]>> I'm not an expert. I just very very interested. My favorite movie is actually Oliver Stone's Alexander.

[00:06:26]>> Get out of here. I'm going to I'm going to call you an expert. You've been Chris.

[00:06:30]>> Yeah, but I can't remember every battle and everything like that. Like like Chaireia was his first major one.

[00:06:35]>> Admit that. You know what I mean? We'll just we'll skirt around it. Well, I hate the idea of being like the dubbed anointed person because then history people if you're wrong, they tend to like destroy your heart and soul.

[00:06:45]>> In in all fairness, I do appreciate the humbleness as well because >> I don't know everything.

[00:06:50]>> There are people who you are 100% right.

[00:06:53]There are people who >> and I'm willing to be wrong.

[00:06:55]>> talk out of that's important. There are people who just totally talk out of their ass on stuff and grab a thread and then go four threads past that when the first thread was wrong and they get caught out.

[00:07:05]>> But I think that's really important in history. I do think it is because to be to think you know everything about everything, you're not open to what could have happened, right? Because to think that it goes back to our conversation about sources. Well, >> if your source says this and mine says this, well, >> who's to say who's wrong?

[00:07:21]>> Yeah. And that's the thing, like I'm all about like present the evidence. And the reality is we're not always going to be able to know the answer. As long as people are coming with something hardcore that they can point to and say this, you know, or because of the context here, you could surmise this, then that's fine. You know, let people out there decide >> what they think it was. I wish we could know everything about history. Maybe AI will figure it out for us, but I doubt it, you know.

[00:07:46]>> Yeah, exactly. AI is going to start telling us like, "No, it's actually all wrong." And then control us based on Who is Julian Doro? He doesn't exist anymore.

[00:07:54]>> Yeah, he's not here. He was never here.

[00:07:56]That was obviously a joke people. I hope that doesn't happen. But it would be cool if if like AI could help in re in recharting like some physical things to to understand what stuff might have looked like.

[00:08:07]>> I use it for script writing like I'll outline like cuz I do long monologues. I have two YouTube channels. Hidden forces in history. We look at the forces behind history. We'll link it down below >> and uh the Roman pattern where we look at the civilizational collapse model.

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