Laws designed to target political opponents often become legal traps that cannot easily distinguish between friends and foes, as demonstrated when Uganda's dual citizenship restrictions, originally used to block Dr. Aggrey Kiyingi's presidential ambitions, now prevented one of President Museveni's own appointees, Dr. Lawrence Muganga, from serving as Minister of State for Internal Affairs.
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Sources from parliament indicated that the vetting committee did not agree with the designated minister of state for internal affairs Dr. Lawrence Muganga.
Offices in Uganda which cannot be held by a dual citizen, President of Uganda, Vice President, Prime Minister, Cabinet Minister and other ministers. Yeah.
Cabinet Minister and other ministers.
This is what is disqualifying Lawrence Muganga that it is not the commentary of Morai Morisa. It is not the vendetta against the Barand as I've had uh some people allege on social media. No, it is because the law is already in place. It says if you are a dual citizen, you cannot serve as a cabinet minister or other minister.
Period. That's the kindergarten interpretation of the law. No nuances needed here. Absolutely not. It is clear as day.
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Okay, so ladies and gentlemen, tonight we're going to be talking about um Dr. Lawrence Muganga, the vice chancellor for Victoria University, who was appointed uh uh state minister for internal affairs by dictator Musevi. his story has dominated mainstream media and uh you know social media or new media as well and that's what we're going to be talking I mean there's this controversy that has is not nobody's letting it go and for all the right reasons now you should know ladies and gentlemen that the Musevven criminal regime has for many years this has pretty much become its modest operandi championing legal changes that effectively shut the doors of its political opponents and one of them that has been pointed out is Dr. Agrii whose presidential ambitions were thwarted by the M7 criminal regime. Dr. Agrii was a Ugandanborn doctor who acquired Australian citizenship at the time the Musevan criminal regime targeted him. Critics warned that the regime was weaponizing the law against its political opponents, that it was tailoring legislation not for the good of the country, but for what many described as short-term political conveniences. And absolutely that was that we saw because at the end of it all, he didn't run for president.
Now in a twist that many are calling poetic justice, the very same system appears to have turned on one of Musevani's own appointees. This is what Shakespeare described in the Hamlet hoisting upon your own patard. They set a trap for Musevan political opponents and now folks are actually falling into that trap. Musean proponents, we saw this with John Patrick coming up with this law. Oh, uh, public order management bill. Okay, keep going.
And when it came time for him to run for president, the same law he had proposed came to bite him or he had supported.
So, let me bring you up to speed, especially if you've not watched the news about Uganda in the past 20 hours.
So, yesterday the parliament's appointments committee rejected the appointment of Dr. Lawrence Muganga as minister of state for internal affairs over questions surrounding multiple citizenship. According to the reports, Monga failed to satisfy the committee that he would renounce his other citizenship citizenship including those of Randa and Canada as required. And this is where many people are pointing out that you know the irony is impossible to ignore. For years, critics have argued that laws crafted to eliminate political opponents eventually come back to haunt those who create them. What begins as political weapon often becomes legal trap and cannot easily distinguish. You cannot easily distinguish between a friend and a foe if you apply that law.
That's what I'm going to be showing you.
So ladies and gentlemen, let's go on and watch what NTV reported about the same and then from there I'll be giving you a few more perspective from a few people that have made commentary about the same. Watch here.
>> Sources from parliament indicated that the vetting committee did not agree with the designated minister of state for internal affairs, Dr. Lawrence Muganga.
Concerns were that four of the presidential nominees were holders of dual citizenship yet the constitution limits. This is my my great great buddy Buchana Julius. Worked with him on record television and NBS TV. Okay, Buchana, if you watch this TV uh this Morai Misa TV, please make sure that you consider me part of your inner circle to share that money. I'm kidding. persons from holding the office. Taywa stated that some of the individuals declared to the committee to have denounced their foreign citizenship >> because we did a verification with the ministry of internal affairs >> uh and we discovered that we had three colleagues >> who had dual citizenship and one colleague who had married citizenship.
So uh we have looked at it extensively and all of them have uh have brought records renouncing their citizenship from the other countries. They've taken a patriotic step of choosing Uganda above all >> the designated minister of trade industry and cooperatives Sanjay Tana the designated minister of state for international affairs David Kalvin Chodu and Muganga were claimed to be holders of dual citizenship. I mean be before I came in here I definitely had uh two citizenships uh that's the Ugandan citizenship and the Canadian citizenship like every young person uh who really aspires to do better uh you leave this country and you go to different countries uh trying to work there and you get some money you help your people you left back home uh you help your brothers your sisters your parents >> deny the claim.
>> I I mean given I understand yes Moanga is a hustler and I speak as a Ugandan in a foreign country the US. I could become a US citizen tomorrow. I wouldn't want to lose the privileges of being a Ugandan. So I understand where he's coming from. But we go back to the argument. What does the law say? Under article 80 of the constitution of Uganda and the citizen citizenship and immigration act, a person holding dual citizen citizenship is not qualified to be a cabinet minister. Don't take my word for it. I'll go back and show you.
I've been uh making a few research here.
Watch here. I contacted the not contacted but you know went onto this uh website for read here. Embassy of the Republic of Uganda, Washington DC, USA.
So, I read this. I'm like, okay, this is what you say. Uh, let's go here. Um, what does it say? Offices. I'll have I'll make you read here. See, offices in Uganda which cannot be held by a dual citizen. President of Uganda, Vice President, Prime Minister, Cabinet Minister and other ministers, Inspector General and Deputy Inspector General of Government, Technical Head of the Armed Forces, Technical Heads of Branches of the Armed Forces, Commanding Officers of Armed Forces, units of at least battalion strength, officers responsible for heading departments of responsible for records, personnel and logistics in all branches of the armed forces.
Inspector General of Police and Deputy Inspector General of Police, Heads of the Deputy Head, sorry, heads and deputy heads of National Security and Intelligence Organization, SOS and CMI.
Members of the National Citizenship and Immigration Board. Now read this one.
Members of the National Citizenship and Immigration Board. Ironically, this man is being appointed to be minister for minister of state for internal affairs, which is pretty much the gatekeeper for national citizenship and immigration.
That's where the irony is. I'm not faulting him. I mean, the man was born in Uganda. He could the my problem is with the law. It is with the system of Muse that usually focuses more on politics instead of looking at the future of a country of serving the Ugandan people.
If we went and included everything these folks wanted in the so-called sovereignty bill, Muganga shouldn't even come close to any office. He would be looked at as a agent of a foreigner and stuff like that. This is what we've been saying that there's a little there's need for a little bit of common sense within our people, especially those who serve the criminal regime. And look, if Muganga is appointed in this position, I can guarantee you he's not going to go there and try to fix things for the betterment of a country. No, he would probably try and find ways of serving Musevan's criminal regime. just being a a dummy that listens to everything Mus says, good or bad, illegal or not, unethical or ethical, immoral or im or moral.
So that's where the problem of the Ugandan people is. It's not about Muganga. You know, I've seen some commentary where people say you hat absolutely not. I'm a myself. I'm closely related to the people of Randa and Rand descent. I don't hate and look it is it would even actually be stupid for me to hate ba this has nothing to do with foreigners and the man was born in Uganda but you guys have told us we should follow the law we always criticize laws you are always quiet when we say hey we understand you want us to follow this law but this law is illegal in it's science if if you really break it down it is wrong it is unethical it is immoral and then You say, "Shut up. Just follow the law." And now we come at this point. You want to tell us no. We can actually bend the law. There's an exception for Loris Muganga. That's what so many Ugandan people are saying.
They're saying, "We thought that we follow the law. This man has." And look, there are so many Ugandans here who are watching my channels who you might be a dual citizen of the USA and uh of UK or any any country. I wouldn't want you to lose privileges that come with you being a Ugandan.
These folks are sort of selective on one on when they apply the law. So my criticism is directed at these laws. Can we have some sort of a a pose and be like, hey, there's something that needs to be fixed. We are so much fascinated and obsessed on maintaining consolidating a criminal regime that we are passing these laws without considering of how dangerously impactful they might be in the future. Now we see it with Muganga. And if you want us to, let me play this, but I was going to say, if you want us to now to bend the law, to break it, to grant exception to Muganga, how many other laws can we break to grant exceptions to other Ugandans? Because Muganga is not any any special. Okay, let's go on here. There's a uh a constitutional lawyer who was explaining this uh in better terms. I'm not a lawyer, but listen to this gentleman. Uh this is Judy Yakama. is what he was saying.
>> What citizens can do, what they cannot do. We can still have a conversation and say maybe having them in cabinet is not necessarily their problem.
What we cannot do is to ignore the letter and spirit of the existing law and pretend otherwise. But as it stands now, dual citizens cannot serve in cabinet. We want them to serve in cabinet. Let's have the conversation. We can have the conversation. I don't think it's I think it's healthy to have this debate and the the problems that we need to get rid of where people may be clandestinely which is common clandestinely hold other citizenships that they don't disclose when they in Uganda I'm sure we have had ministers in cabinet before who are citizens >> we had Dr. Malinga he was a minister of health for quite some time two times.
>> Yeah that's I want us to go back to here what he says here this is what >> say >> I think what my colleague empowered parliament to prescribe to prescribe offices which your citizens are not permitted to hold.
>> So parliament basically all that it did was to prescribe those offices.
>> So respect the constitution.
>> Yes. So article 15 is that mandated parliament to prescribe offices which citizens are not eligible to occupy and and therefore you cannot say that the prescript the prohibition which is in section 23 of the citizenship and immigration contract offends the conution. It doesn't it simply fulfills what is in the constitution in article 15 clause 7. uh but that having been said >> uh this is a fluid area and that is why even the the act of parliament I left it to parliamentary resolution to keep determining from time to time what your citizens can do what they cannot do >> now see that's why is going to hide you know parliamentary resolution now they can determine oh there's an exception for muga really >> can still have a conversation and say maybe having them in cabinet is not necessarily their How >> what we cannot do is to ignore the letter and spirit of the existing law and pretend otherwise.
>> Exactly. That would be the big big big problem. See my criticism is not focused on Manga. Manga is a hustler. He's a man who had dreams who went to Canada did a lot of things. That's what I know. And probably could be doing other stuff because this man was arrested over allegations of spying on Uganda.
remember so there's a lot of things I don't know about him but as he mentioned there are so many Ugandans who travel leave their country and go in Europe USA and other countries and try to apply for citizenship they become cit I wouldn't think they would lose I wouldn't argue that they would lose their privilege of being Ugandans my criticism is directed at the muse criminal regime system that usually comes up with these stupid laws that they do not have foresight at all.
How could this impact me?
They don't care.
And this is now excuse me. Coming to bite them. It is really sad. Okay. What is did I wanted to show you here? Um um I saw Musevani making this case. You know, people started sharing this uh clip on social media. This is what he used to say. used people like always preoccupying with tribal issues for inance was always on the radio ohismismism but suppose I was what would be wrong with that >> yeah because there's something called a constitution that grants you privileges as a citizens or not as a foreigner that being a Ugandan citizen should come with a few privileges and just like we've seen You cannot be president of Uganda if you are a foreigner.
Okay, if you're foreigner, that's what Oote was trying to show people that hey, this might not be actually Uganda and you know what why he was saying it that you might not be a Ugandan citizen.
So when you say what's the problem with that? There's a problem. That's why you been you cooked just a few days ago this sovereignty protection crap where you said oh foreigners are the one why why do you care if that wasn't a coan then shouldn't have you know been concerned with your citizenship so why were you concerned just few months ago the sovereignty bill and coming up with unsolicited lectures this man is a liar is I mean he's always been a liar I don't know I don't No, something wrong, fundamentally wrong with that man. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, when uh I'll take you just uh down the memory lane and remind you when uh the seven criminal regime barred Dr. Agri from running for president and what he had to say then watch.
>> Yesterday I sent some of my supporters led by Mr. Frank Bolina to the Electoral Commission with a letter of authority from me to pick up nomination forms on my behalf, which is perfectly legal and which has been done before.
I also sent the same letter by email to the Uganda Electoral Commission.
When my people arrived at the Uganda Electoral Commission, there was a bit of confusion because they did not expect Dr. King is going to come and pick up nomination forms.
They were told to identify themselves which they did and Mr. Bira had his passport Uganda passport which is the ultimate form of identification in any country. He was asked to produce his ID card which he did not have. He was asked whether he was a registered voter and yes he said he was a registered voter and he is a registered voter.
However, they asked him for his registration card as a voter, which was totally unnecessary and has not been done before. When other proxies go and pick up forms, he was told to wait. And during that time, the members of the electoral commission were consulting their master, dictator Yed Musevan, on what to do.
Within a few minutes, after about half an hour or so, the whole place was surrounded by military personnel, fully armed, ready for war. I find this very disturbing. Now, he goes on to explain on, you know, what became of this uh he was charged with uh again the usual charges. Muse usually charges with his political opponents. All cases that were dropped later, surprise.
This is what's wrong with M7 criminal regime always looking at on how they can shut down close doors for its political opponents not knowing that the political opponent tomorrow might be one of their friends.
They hide under laws, rules and regulations that might be used against them the following day.
This is why we have we should have a national conversation on things we do like that sovereignty bill. Ugandans protested. They said no.
These people were like no we don't care.
Remember when we were talking about the amendment the amendment of the constitution to remove the age limit.
Ugans said no. Members of parliament had their backs broken. They were brutalized by the muse jak thags the special force command members of the criminal regime who probably had presidential ambitions all kept quiet. Now they're realizing that a man is hellbent on achieving a dream of life presidency and if anything happens to him they've seen that he's getting his son ready to take over.
Now your dreams are thwarted.
You enabled the criminal regime to be established, firmly established, and now your dreams are thwarted. The moment you try to have a semblance of a dream that goes beyond what Musemini wants you to have in mind or to dream, you become an enemy. The likes of Kadaga, the likes of Anita.
We have to come back to our senses and be like we there's a country to think about like Bobby Wine sang and said that these leaders we have misleaders we have they care about the next election instead of the next generation there's going to come a time when Morai Misa is not here when you are not a Uganda you're not in Uganda you're dead that's what I mean what are you leaving behind what are you leaving behind uh think This is uh yes. So what's uh my my parting shots here ladies and gentlemen?
My parting shots here really is to say no to those folks who are saying that we opposing Dr. Lawrence Muganga because of who he is or we don't like him. I've never met the guy, never had a conversation with him. No. Whether one likes him or doesn't like him, it doesn't really matter. It is completely irrelevant.
The issue we're talking about here is the law. The same government that appointed him is the same government that put these legal restrictions in place. If the law says a person holding multiple citizenship citizenships cannot occupy a particular office unless certain requirements are met then the law must apply equally to everyone. We don't bend it. We don't abandon it. We don't break it in favor of that person.
No. So what we are witnessing is the danger of making laws for political conveniences rather than for the long-term good of the country when critics warned that some of these laws were being designed to target political opponents of muse to target individuals like Dr. Chisabes J the likes of Dr. Agra change like I've mentioned and others government proponents moan sympathizers and acolytes were so quick to dismiss these concerns. Today however the same legal provisions are affecting a person favored by the very system that created these laws. So do not gaslight us. This is not vendetta. This is called consistency. We're trying to say hey you say we condemn this law but okay can we be consistent with the applying this law you cannot celebrate a law when it blocks your opponent opponents and then complain when the same law blocks your allies absolutely not that's what many people are talking you know when it came to say hey you are in the government that proposed and supported this public order management law or bill and now you're complaining the rule of law has meaning and if it applies equally to friends and enemies should alike.
If Muganga is legally qualified, let the law prove it and like they've said he's got to renounce his other citizenships and everything should be okay.
Do not gaslight the Ugandan people and say, "Oh, you hate Muganga." Nobody hates Muganga. 99.9% don't know who Muganga is. They don't hate him.
They're saying, "Okay, what does the law say?"
That's it. That's it, ladies and gentlemen. Let me know what you think.
Let me know what you think. And uh uh I'll continue following these events and updates coming in from Uganda. And I'll keep you posted. Please stick around.
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Bye-bye for now. My name is Morai Marisa.
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