Brand’s pseudo-intellectual defense is a masterclass in cognitive dissonance, using moral vocabulary to evade rather than embrace accountability. This analysis effectively strips away the rhetorical veneer to reveal the predatory patterns hidden behind a facade of self-awareness.
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In Europe and in the United Kingdom where I'm from, the age of consent is 16.
>> Wait, wait a minute.
>> No, I just want to say, >> [ __ ] shut the up.
>> Russell Brand is in the news. Uh, because apparently Russell's been a naughty boy since he was I don't know. He been naughty boy for a long time apparently. and allegations from way back when when he was anywhere from 28 to as late as like 40 have been coming out in droves in the last little while.
Anytime a sentence starts with the age of consent to 16, I'm just telling you just leave that [ __ ] to the courts and just stop yapping about it. Okay?
>> In Europe and in the United Kingdom where I'm from, the age of consent is 16. And I did sleep with a 16-year-old when I was 30. But when I was 30, I was a very different person. I was a lot younger and I was an immature 30-year-old.
>> That was smart.
Did this man try to justify his behavior >> by saying he >> by by saying he was an immature 30year-old?
>> People say this all the time. Oh, if they're old enough for the legal age of consent, then they're old enough for whatever. And here is a 30-year-old man saying, "I'm not culpable cuz I was an immature 30-year-old."
Oh, you know, the the frontal lobe was fully developed, but then I did drugs and it went back in time 15 years. So, it's like I was a toddler. I'm a mature 30-year-old who has the right to vote, but anything relating to underage girls, I'm not mature enough.
>> If you're saying like, oh, Asian consent is 16, trust me, he would have gone he would have gone 12.
>> Can we just think about it? So, what he's essentially saying is if you were a 30-year-old and you were mature, then this would be really wrong. It's it's not a matter of age necessarily. It's a matter of maturity. He's not mentioning her maturity. He's going to the exact legal age for defense. But then when it's his own culpability, he's using maturity as the barometer, not his age.
>> And that's how people can hold these two things simultaneously. they can acknowledge and like any man who sits here and tries to like defend this weirdness, remember two things. One, if that's your own daughter, you're losing your [ __ ] mind. And then secondly, um he had to have a drive her a driver pick her up from school, had to have her save his number under different random names, and had her he had to coach her on lies she had to tell her own parents in order to be with him. So, do you understand just right there all the dynamics already at play?
>> Yeah. You're not you're not immature, you're manipulative.
>> Okay. So, now he goes on Pierce Morgan and this is where it gets [ __ ] funny and weird. How are you feeling about the fact that in a few months time in a Southeast London courtroom with 12 jurors sitting there, you're going to basically over a period of about 2 months go through a process which could end up with you going to prison for a long period of time if you're convicted.
>> Tumultuous is a perfect word because it is like a storm. And sometimes I feel like I'm comfortable in the eye of the storm where there can be calm and um at least the capacity to observe. And at other times it feels all consuming and frightening and pressurizing like a storm also would be in almost every conceivable way. Well, when you sort of this variation that was introduced like he's revered or reviled and >> um I some feel like all those things like a truth teller or silver tongue comment and wow what's so when you I think it's a really good place to begin >> now you guys might be wondering what what is he talking he does this thing throughout this interview you're going to notice it he just starts rambling and he and like when I say rambles he'll use these words and he'll jump back and forth and often times as this interview progresses and the questions get more pointed you're going to see how dodgy he gets >> and the lifestyle that you've talked about very openly now looking back on that saying look I was out of control taking all these drugs sleeping with all these women whatever is how can you be sure that your own memory is good is sound is reliable is truthful most people who've slept with thousands of women and taken barrel loads of drugs and led this incredibly honistic lifestyle I would think if I interviewed them and asked them to name even what year it was would struggle to remember can you be certain if you're honest that your memory is completely sound accurate.
>> Yes, I can be honest and I am honest and I think what's an important distinction is that I was a drug addict prior to becoming famous. So that was a very different rhythm and time and I think the question was has it made you a more successful predator and even then I objected to the idea of predation as persecuto but predation as simply an amplification of looking for something with intention. Oh my god, the gaslight >> amidst the sort of flamboyance and the evident hydonic is a person that was looking for a lot of attention and approval and love and connection. Now that doesn't mean that there weren't clumsiness and that there wasn't selfishness and uh objectification and lots of things to your point about there being a moral distinction flat out wrong. But it's very different term than a kind of a baldy um overbearing oppressive controlling. You know, obviously I'm aware of those claims that were made publicly in the documentary.
I'm not sure to wish to be what makes part of this so complicated and you know as a journalist that journalists are not held to the same level of um >> you guys notice that he's not answering the question which was pretty simple considering how much drugs you were taking. How can you be so assured that all these experiences were consensual and now he's here talking about a documentary and other things? So just be mindful of how he's getting away from it to do his sophistry.
>> He's just saying no with a lot of steps.
Do you remember? He don't even remember the question. So there you there you have it.
>> There you go.
>> Um but the whole thing was very live and alive. I I have a I have a good I have a good memory.
>> You you were clean from 2002. December the 13th, 2002 is the date I got >> some of the allegations go back to 99.
So there must have been some crossover.
>> Well, without wanting to get into the specificity of the criminal matter, um that's not generally the complexion and um in the variation from that generality, there are other indicators that make it clear that my memory is reliable.
>> That that was not the question. That was the first question he asked. I will say shout out to Pierce because he asked the right question. He said cuz he tried to dodge by saying no I was sober. No, some of the allegations are before you were sober. And then also if you were sober, doesn't that kind of make it worse? So that means that all this bad behavior wasn't the resolve of your drug addiction. You were >> lucid, had a had a buzzing career, taking off, able to get off of drugs and stay off of drugs. And that's when you were a piece of garbage.
So you were just doing that, not drugged induced, you were just crazy, basically is what you're telling us.
>> You use the word exploitative. He knows that that was wrong. What is that line for you between exploiting as a 30-year-old man a 16-year-old girl to the point where it becomes criminal potentially?
>> So I I just want to pause there for a second. The reason why there's a self-inccriminating aspect to it, not from a legal standpoint, but from a moral standpoint, because he did that interview where he calls his own behavior exploitative around the age of 30, which is around the age where a lot of these incidents were happening at the time. He was already cognizant of what he was doing was wrong. So, so he'll say something like, "I wasn't mature enough, but then also be able to cog be like cognitively aware enough to be like what I'm doing is wrong." And that's a fascinating.
>> Yeah. Because it's memory. Because it's memory fact. We have indicators of that.
>> But this is not even a memory question now. Now this a question is like so you knew was wrong. You even used the words to say what you were doing was wrong.
But now you want to retro back >> and be like >> the age of consent means in varying ways in different places people have a understanding which probably isn't wholly accurate and reliable that at a certain age a person is able to make a consensual decision to smoke a cigarette or vote or have sex or gamble and these things vary according to jurisdiction and type of law. The context in which those consensual encounters were happening was a sort of merry deluge of constant consensual activity that was very very difficult to sometimes um believe was happening but you know one adjusts to those kind of conditions and I would say peers on a personal level yes of course that's wrong it's morally and spiritually wrong it's it's legal uh it's not a legal issue seems like a deliberate removal of context not to continually cement meant that famous men that are single have always and typically behaved in this manner. One prays consensually, but one also suspects that there's a responsibility incumbent on people that have that power with >> one issue I have with Russell Brand types and look I understand he's facing a legal battle. He has to be careful what he says, which is why I don't do this interview. But all these like so-called truth tellers, the people who are not bound by mainstream media and the forces that be the ones who can speak their mind and won't hide from you what they think and really believe, all of a sudden have a lot of words to use and a lot of stuttering to do and a lot of dodging to engage in even though we're not in a gym session to dodgeball.
And listening to Russell Brain right now is just that. He's doing this thing where he sees the problem, but he always tries to find a way to extricate himself. So men who are famous have always had lots of women. We hope consensually though we can assume that many. And I would he moves on like you could tell there's a point of it where I think if he had to really reckon and do a confessional with the priest and it was all behind closed doors, you know, he's got like I did this [ __ ] But he can't. And that's why he's doing this whole long- winded answer where he's trying to position himself as the man who sees the fact that famous men do take advantage of these young girls or whatever it is, but also position himself as being the one who's like, I was the ethical drug addict player who remembers everything and always had consensual relationships with all these 16-year-old girls who I made their parents not know about me and made sure they manipulate.
I was exploitative, but I never did anything without consent. I might have pressured her, but never before. She could not say no. I'll take full accountability, but not for the things I didn't do. Not for the things I didn't do. It's like, all right, bro. It's the truth when it's convenient. And then when it's not, all of a sudden, they want to write you a poem. They got things they want to tell you. You could ask them any question. Are you coming to the party? We are sitting with the luminous possibility of your gathering.
Pierce, I'm sitting with you right now wanting to answer your questions, but as you know, there's a legal case that's ongoing in regards to my partying behavior. Now, I'm stuck in this gobbledegook that revolves around behavior.
>> All right, I'll stop.
>> Were you still at the sun when I was being shagger of the year? This was being I was literally being given awards for it.
>> I mean, I I >> So, of course, it's really terrible.
>> I'd actually left the sun, but the sun had an award called shagger of the year, and you won it a couple of times.
>> Three times, and it was Yeah. Some of the glory is faded, >> right? But it was amidst the rape allegations, the shagger of the year title is quite as val >> like you see pride window to who he re it's yeah there's a window to who he really like he's proud of that you peek into the window of his narcissism. I'm not saying he's a narcissist but >> yeah he definitely has traits.
>> Can I go back to asking you a question about your Bible?
>> Yes, if you want to.
>> Okay. Was that the one you took into court?
>> You're the very one.
>> Okay. What was your thinking of taking it into court and what you were seeing looking at some passages? What were the relevant passages for you?
>> All right. Thank you for asking me.
>> Thank you. That didn't hurt, did it?
>> A little bit. Um, it was this from Isaiah.
You're right. Brea did say, you know, be chilled. Sometimes I lose the chill, man.
It's pretty.
Is this remember you just said it's a hired spot?
This is from Isaiah.
Yeah, that's me when I failed my test and my mom's like, "Where's your report card?"
I can tell you that much. When you see a Christian and he knows about a verse that he loves, he's going to recite that [ __ ] He won't need the Bible.
That's Psalm 23 in French. Cuz when they made me learn that [ __ ] when I was a kid, kid, I remember that [ __ ] You understand what I'm saying? Need to rumage through the pages. I know that [ __ ] in my French that I learn it in.
That's everything that you need to understand and you know about the way that he does things. Okay, cool. What's that very good verse that you like and that you love or that you put all that razledazzle around saying that is the it is the one that carries you? Oh, >> [ __ ] out of here, bro.
>> Yo, these pages are so loud. I feel like every page in this Bible is like, "Nigga, you lying.
Why the [ __ ] you lying?
Why the [ __ ] you lying?
>> Look at Pierce.
>> Oh my god.
>> Look at Pierce.
>> But you KNOW THAT LOOK WHEN LOOK AT THAT that whole time he's silent looking for that verse is the same time it takes him to ramble but with no words. So >> yeah, >> you talking or you not talking when answering a question equals to the same result. My man, >> at one point the interview switches over and they start talking about like vaccines and whatnot. Brand during the pandemic gaining credible popularity by talking about this topic and the COVID related stuff and so they have this long debate about vaccines and then PICE asks him a simple question.
>> Do you believe in vaccines generally? I have the kind of questions that anyone that's paying attention >> there was a measles a little outbreak of measles recently. Even RFK was giving evidence yesterday and said he absolutely believes in the in the measles vaccine. In fact, he said I'm not antivax at all. In fact, he said I support most vaccines. He had legitimate questions about the COVID vaccine because the speed at which that was designed in your case. Are you anti- all vaccine or which vaccines do you accept are good?
>> Calm down and slow down.
>> It's a serious question.
>> I understand it's a serious question. Of course it is. But I want you to calm down and slow down. God >> because well then in which case um unyoke yourself from the conditioning of the world you've found yourself in.
>> See when he just did it he just did it. He he he dead ass just did it. Unyoke yourself from the conditioning of the world.
>> Unoke.
>> In response to Andrew Mars well I've not been conditioned by the BBC. They've not told me what questions I can ask and what my perspective should be.
>> Guys, just remember the question was, do you believe in any vaccines? And we are talking about the BBC.
>> Are there any vaccines that you that you think are >> It's not something I'm interested in. I don't >> You're very interested. You talked about it a lot.
>> No, I'm interested in truth and where truth and vaccines intersect. I'm interested in that.
>> So, this guy spent most of the pandemic yapping about the vaccine and everything relating to it. He would bring on specialists. He would read studies. He would talk about it at nauseium. And then when asked the simple question of do you believe in any vaccines? He says I'm not an expert. And it's just like the comedians who did all this [ __ ] political interviews and all this stuff about how powerful their word is. And the moment people are like well do you feel any accountability? They're like I'm just a god dumb guy doing comics with him. I I'm I'm not an expert. But then why did you make a career and why did you have hours on YouTube talking about this topic?
>> Crystal clear in his testimony this week that actually he's not antivaccine. that he's been driving the measles vaccine here he thinks very successfully and and so my question for you is is there any vaccine that you think is a good thing >> I'm a little frustrated >> or are you antivaccine >> I'm a little frustrated because what I sense is is that I don't think you do it on purpose but I think there are moments where you're doing your job where you get kind of caught up in the way that the material will be received and in a way that's responsible journalism because you have to be effective and you have to be >> wow that was that was >> he's just switching up.
>> Yes. Yes.
>> Sharoo is nice.
>> You saw what he did. He accused him of doing what he's doing. He's worried about how his answer is going to come across. So, he's not answering it. And he's accusing Pierce of trying to do something there. You're the one who's very worried about just answer the question, yes or no. But he won't do it.
>> Pers, if we get mired in a conversation about my personal understanding of vaccines, we'll miss the opportunity to sketch out together the problem. The problem is new technology means a true potential for decentralized power.
>> Here we go. He does his [ __ ] whole spill. He just doesn't answer the question. So this is a good 15 minutes where asks him such a simple question and he just won't answer it.
>> I feel like you're just sort of sniffing around for headlines and I just worth it.
>> I'm really not. I'm really not. So you took me on over vaccines. Fair enough.
And I've had to admit I was wrong.
>> And that's also another part of this. I didn't play this but earlier in the interview Russell asks him about vaccines and then Pierce admits he was wrong.
>> You did argue it Pierce. And one of the main reasons that you remain contentious is because you advocated you you shamed people into getting vaccines and we now know those vaccines have killed more people than they say. I'm not no because no I'll tell you why because unlike most people >> you've repeatedly apologized.
>> Yes. And I said you know what I believed I hang on I felt I had actually >> in the initial moment abregated my journalistic duty >> and now in turn Russ answer a simple question.
>> Yeah. You told me many years ago that you used to study dictionaries to learn long words.
>> Oh. Yes, I did do that.
>> Okay. So, you're very eloquent and you have a lot of good linguistic skills and you're a very good debater and a very good arguer. But some people be watching this and going you're very very very good at avoiding answering questions that you've >> he just wants that for clickbait and I don't want that for clickbait. I am actually just asking questions I wanted to ask.
>> I'd love to talk to those you know hypothetical but very real audience member right now.
>> We're on Piers Morgan's show. Right.
Pier is a really talented man in lots of ways. He's been inside the system. This is a person that knows Rupert Murdoch, that's been in rooms with some of the most powerful people in the world, including Donald Trump. He won the celebrity apprentice. He's seen things.
He knows things. It seems to be doing that primarily by increasing cultural fear, increasing division and dread, and then providing us with solutions, but always cost. You'll yield a little bit more of your personal power. You'll find us hating people we don't know. Caring about an abstract far away issue. And look at your own life.
>> He's going off. He's not very unol right now.
>> You're going to be saying that the whole show.
Yes, cuz I like that. Yo, I like Listen, I'm not like Russell Brand, all right? I didn't learn the freaking dictionary.
So, when I learn one good word, I'mma stick to that word, overuse it, then it's going to be in my [ __ ] vocabulary. Let me work >> those vaccines. Could I get water that's not directly from not to be difficult?
>> Listen, listen.
>> You know, eat, right?
>> Yes.
>> So, what happened there?
What happened there was like my veganism was really motivated by not wanting to see animals um I I really don't like the idea of animal suffering and I think when everything changed in my life with my boy and the allegations of stuff here a bottle of you mate I think oh someone get one love it thank you thank you um when my boy was ill and the allegations happened like everything felt everything sort of changed very very quickly and I was confronted with something like you know you know you was in the news so it's very sort of confrontational the significant thing is I was brought to Christ in an an involuntary instant.
Coming to Christ was not um >> guys don't forget. He was just asked why he stopped being a vegan or a vegetarian and this is what he's answering. So just remember what the question was cuz you ramble so hard you forget. Okay.
>> My wife's always eating meat, you know.
She's a my wife, she's a unbelievable, stable, beautiful, incredible person.
She was going to come. She wanted to say hello to you. I wish she had in a way cuz it would have anchored us and instead we was filming and you got HS ticky tocky trauma out of it, didn't you? But we're not like filming. I'm not trying to gotcha no one. I don't need anything. I've got everything I need.
Anyway, so what >> the Christian story that God came to earth in human form that died somehow taking our sin upon himself and was resurrected was true and I felt it not rational logically I felt it in my belly and then from that minute I was reading about it now I suppose what happened after that is I didn't feel the need to have a self- selected arbitrary system of righteousness or morality like wokeism or or veganism which as a good intention as does wness I think compassion kindness these are really lovely lovely ideas but I just didn't anymore in a lamb shop and I remember the smell of lamb in my hands in Dagenham I remember this the smell of it and I ate it and I felt like one of my friends who's always been a meat eater said it's them or you Russell It's them or you. You got to start eating meat to survive out there.
>> Okay.
>> We started with a question that says, "Why did you start eating meat?" And ended up the why >> because he was a vegan before >> and then he No, no. So he was a vegan before and he stopped and Pierce is like why did you stop being a vegan? And he said, basically, I was with my wife and I smelled lamb.
>> And you gotta you gotta you got to eat meat to survive. All right, moving right along.
>> He gave that whole answer just to say he he could smell his wife's lamb and he wanted to eat.
>> That's it.
>> In 2014, you said Fox News was a fanatical terrorist propagandist organization. By 2023, you're popping up on Fox News quite happily. What happened there?
Well, I certainly I wouldn't uh I wouldn't describe it as anything other than what do I think about Fox News?
What do I think about Fox News when I went on there with Tucker or Hannity?
The point I said say when I was on Bill Maher that time and they were like, "Oh, MSNBC like Fox is evil but MSNBC is great." The this is what it was. But get ready to listen if you come from and kind of normalizing into socialism. Somehow your views are quite off. And as I looked at an institution like Fox, it was easy to vilify. But as the world got more complex, as the left sort of went a bit kind of crazy, I think P because I was online and reading this stuff, I understood that there was a a different way of operating in those worlds. Right bad, liberal good, libertarian bad.
>> Climate change.
>> I'm just sh is that what is this what we're reduced to? What's happened? Have you disengaged?
>> No. No.
>> Are you disengaged? Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yeah. Cuz you'd be rambling. You get these long-winded answers. Don't go.
>> So he he used to have an issue with Fox News and now he's like, "Oh, it's not so bad." And I just think it's a funny thing because like on one hand you might think, okay, well people are just becoming more open to the idea that that's all equal or whatever, but this guy is very anti- mainstream. He talks about how the mainstream media lies and big pharmaceuticals and all this other stuff. Fox News is incredibly partisan.
It's incredibly linked to the right.
It's incredibly linked to pharmaceutical companies. They're very You'll complain about Fizer every day, but they run ads for Fizer all the time. So they're much part of the but the reason why he loves to go on that show is because it's a medium and it's a group that will protect and insulate him because now he feels like he has a home. So it just goes to show you that it goes to the idea and why I think Piers was going at is that people will call you a grifter.
And this is a big >> you know you used to be a vegan. You used to think it was so important to protect animals then you smelled lamb and you started eating. It's either us or them which is such a [ __ ] [ __ ] thing to say. Like if people wanted to, they could be vegans in mass. It's fine to say you want to eat meat, but pretending like it's an us or them like animals are going to kill us is stupid, you know? Like that's why people call him a grifter.
>> That's that's the reason why he's like super big super big on Christianity right now. I think he's not really in there. He's just using that to be like it's a tape move.
>> Yes, >> it's a tape move. You do some [ __ ] [ __ ] and then after that you're like, "Oh, I'm Muslim now." But he did some he got caught red-handed and now he's like, "Oh, no. I'm righteous. God, God is good.
>> You know, there are people who think you're basically just a massive grifter.
That you're very smart, you're very eloquent, you can be very persuasive with the power of your words, but that actually when it comes to any of these issues, you don't really have a personal view.
>> I do. I do. It's really >> Your view is that all people in power are terrible. But when I ask you, when I challenge you to say, "Well, what would you actually do?" You go on a 20-minute elegant spiel, which doesn't answer the question.
>> Oh my god, he actually does answer the question. Let me try and do it again.
Firstly, find faith and integrity in yourself. Do whatever you can. Pray, find God. Secondly, we can't have systems that priorize centralization power democracy or this global commercial. What would you do? Use the technology that we currently have. All right. Good. This is the bit I wanted to get to. Can I have a class of war? I mean, AS A >> OH MY DAYS, >> he did it again.
>> Yeah.
>> I can't I can't listen to him anymore.
But um yeah, I think Preach might have crashed out for real. For real. you know, as far as allegations and whether or not they're true or I mean, there's no doubt that he did sleep with somebody who was 16 and he was in these relationship with these people, I think it's a matter of consent. Some people think a 16-year-old can't consent to a relationship with a 30-year-old. People are going to have their differing opinions. I myself know whether you think they can or not, that [ __ ] is [ __ ] nasty. And Russell Brand himself thinks it's very bad. So, you know, a court is going to decide whether or not he belongs in jail, and that'll be that.
I think he's a giant piece of garbage. I think I think he's definitely a grifter.
Uh I think it's always impressive to watch him dodge every answer when he's asked a D right question and uh yeah, it's fascinating to watch all the guys who became super big during the pandemic on the idea of telling the truth all of a sudden get cold feet now that they're now it's time for them to be answering questions about their credibility. Now that it's time for them to actually own up to what they said, they don't want to do it anymore. And it is fascinating that all the pseudo comics or comedians are all now very careful with their words. They weren't careful when it was cracking jokes at anybody's expense or punching on whoever or making whatever joke or making whatever claim. They just yapping off the off the hip. It's cruel.
It's cool to watch all the edgy comics.
All the flagrant people.
Not so flagrant no more. What do you think?
>> I mean it's um Can I get a glass of water? Like >> this is very undold behavior. Okay.
>> I think he's on in hot water and he knows he is on hot water. All this thing that he does whenever he talks a whole lot, it's really to to dodge a question and to not answer it and just to be in a safe place while still be able to demonstrate that he can speak. Cuz this guy likes to have compliment. He likes when people he likes to be fluffed. You understand what I'm saying? So when people give him compliment when people are like oh yeah you are someone that's very eloquent. Yes. You won the shag awards. Yes. Yes. Yes. Three times actually sir.
>> So he likes that he still tries to save while still like dude is still a narcissist.
>> Yeah. We got Nikki over here saying I've never seen Pierce so patient. He knows what he's doing. And you know what? For all the faults that we give a lot of like media members, Pierce actually does some decent interviews at times. And this probably the best interview where you can really see that Pierce asked tough questions, held them to the fire.
Even though you would think that they're both on the same side of the political spectrum since they're both aligned with Trump and the MAGA people, you know, Megan Kelly gave this dude a softball interview and he still said, "Yeah, I wasing 16year-olds." Pierce asked him tough questions and grilled him. And so you got to give him credit. I know we [ __ ] on him when he's bad, but you should also give him his flowers when he runs a good interview. And I've seen him run several.
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