How Prophetic Movements Validate Their Own Prophets

[00:00:00]It isn't just that a person can claim it. That makes them a self-proclaimed prophet.

[00:00:07]And if that were the case, every single prophet that we see in Charismania, New Apostolic Reformation, they would all be branded self-proclaimed prophets, not apostles and prophets with prophetic insight in a prophetic movement. That's not how it works. Now, in that same event, say that I brought five people with me and the five people are on stage. I tell my prophecy, everybody's scratching their heads thinking, "I don't really want to change my life." And walk away from families and all of the many weird things that they ask you to do.

[00:00:42]But then suddenly, one of those five stands up and says, "I'm a prophet, too, and I had a prophecy very similar to what he just said. Let me tell you what it is." And then they start to say something that is so generic, so I don't know, mystic, so symbolic that matches what I said in some form. Maybe not as accurate, but just enough to make the person think about their prophecy. It may not be detailed. It may not even have any substance, but maybe there's that one element that sounds, "Yeah, that could sound like John's prophecy. I wonder if it is." And the people start scratching their heads thinking, "Well, maybe it is." And then the next person does it. Then the next person, next person. Before that meeting is over, there will be a percentage, not all, but there will be a large percentage of people in there that at least have the question planted, I wonder if John really is a prophet. He says he is.

[00:01:44]Those other people, their prophecies sound like it. I wonder. And so they go home, they start looking into it, and they think about it. They read the Bible, they start to see identifying markers of things that I said in my prophecy purposefully that matched some scripture that they read. And a subset of those people will suddenly say, "Oh my gosh, John is a prophet. Let's abandon everything and join." [laughter] And as weird as that sounds, that really is how this played out. You have so many people in the movement doing this. And it doesn't even necessarily have to be a prophecy. There are examples, we've talked about it in the revival history series, there are people who aren't even recognized as a minor prophet who had a supportive dream. And the dreams, if you go back and into the examples that we gave, they're supporting prophecies that did not come to pass. So you have to ask the question first, was it a dream from God? Because if the prophecy didn't come to pass and the supportive dream was about that prophecy, well, I don't think that was from God. But the next question really becomes, did that person really have that dream or were they just trying to support and encourage the crowd to believe the prophet? I have come to the conclusion and it is my opinion that you have both.

[00:03:09]You have people who truly have something happen, whether it's of God or not, and they believe what happened to them, whether it's a vision, a prophecy, a dream, etc. Those people in that category, they're not trying to deceive people. They just had something happen.

[00:03:28]And they don't they don't really have the tools to determine was that from God or was that just something that happened. On the other hand, we clearly have shown examples where people purposefully said things that weren't true of the spiritual nature to back or support something that the movement presented. And for me, when you combine those two categories, it really doesn't matter if one side is truly believing what they said and the other side is not, the end result is the same. the people will believe the stage act that is supposed to eventually become the major prophet. So this turns into this weird mess that you go through the names and I mentioned [clears throat] Percy Hunt Holt etc. because people are researching this. Those names are familiar. Until they did, they were long forgotten. Nobody nobody heard the name George Waro until now we start to investigate the manifested sons of God.

[00:04:28]Who is this guy? And they don't even realize that many of Waro's ideas came from Branom and Branomism as it was developing. So the the true history is kind of lost.

[00:04:40]People like Myrtle Beal, that is a name in latter rain. If you're in a Latin circle, you know this name because she is one of the supportive prophets. In fact, I think she rose up to become you you'd call our major preacher in the Latin movement, I guess. Well, she had a prophetic voice that some of the details many people have forgotten. She was apparently the one who laid hands on Jim Jones of Jonestown and said, "God has given me the the spirit of anointing to anoint you as this new leader of the movement." and he was joining into the Brandom movement. We we have evidence supporting this on the website.

[00:05:19]She laid hands on him and look what happened with Jonestown. You had so many people that died with this. Was that an anointing by God? No. But this is another person supporting the claim that Jones is vindicated as a true messenger or true minister in the five-fold ministry of latter reign.

[00:05:39]We have a person named Anna Schrader who Chenno and I have mentioned a few times was the equivalent of Myrtle Beal with regards to Hobart Freeman. She was working directly with Christ for the Nation's founder Gordon Lindsay and others in the Voice of Healing movement.

[00:05:57]And she apparently told Hobart Freeman that he was anointed as this new minister right after William Brandham died which gets really odd when you think about it. Here we have Brandom going off the scene who is the leader of the movement. Now we have to find a new leader. Suddenly Hobart Freeman's elected and the rest is history. His his cult there are a lot of people who died as well in his cult. But not many people know the name Anna Schrader. I know it because Shrader was one of the ones who apparently or allegedly prophesied that William Brham would die after most of the movement had revolted. There was this period of time in history when many of the minor prophets and some of the major prophets all condemned Brham for his serpent seed doctrine which was very racist and anti-semitic.

[00:06:48]They rose up against him and they began to prophesy this guy is out. And again, you have to question, was that really from God, or did they just want to save face whenever it was recognized that this was a racist that was backed by some of the more racist and more sinister parts of American history? But Anna Schrader is a name that most of you are not familiar with until we start bringing it up. [clears throat] But the problem is she was apparently a prophetist in the movement. So, what does it mean to be a prophetist or a minor prophet in the movement? And I'm pulling up a prophecy that later was titled Jezebel and Ahab must be dethroned. And you can find this if you go online, you can find some of Annrader's prophecies that were preserved. The problem for me is that a large number of them were not preserved.

[00:07:40]And why why is that? For a movement that is teaching that these are Old Testament style prophets and [music] the prophecies are given directly by God to the church.

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