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Bjo on Tuesday, May 12th in Canada in the United States and this is a show called What Chaos presented by Sports Interaction in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
My name is David Bean and I sit beside Pete Blackburn and holding it down at La Posh Blue Studios is Sean Depaz ready for game four, boys.
>> Better start to the French today than in yesterday's episode. That is for sure.
>> We didn't know how no.
>> Oh, you didn't know.
>> Well, yeah. You didn't We didn't know.
>> I also didn't know no.
>> And your pronunciation of La Pash Blue was pretty good.
>> I don't >> Would you would you know if it wasn't?
>> Yeah, that's the thing. Sounded good.
>> It It did sound good.
>> Sounded good to my ignorant ears.
>> I wouldn't know if it was wrong.
>> Yesterday was uh texting some media people because they were going to meet up and someone asked like, "Are you in Montreal?" And I said, "No." And they were like, "Okay, damn. Next time." And I had to be like, "I am." But >> if we're doing French, no. No. Cuz they had said like we we to something or whatever. And I was like, if we're doing French, right or wrong, I'm using my favorite word, which isn't all. Or zoot.
What do you know about zoot?
>> Not much.
>> Zoot is like a curse. It's like, damn.
>> Our boy our boy Max who we're seeing tonight said that uh it was good.
>> I'm straight up zooted.
>> Is Is uh Tomboy Max in the chat?
>> Yeah, he said your pronunci I'm assuming this is about your pronunciation of Ponch Blue.
>> Damn.
>> Said it was good.
>> Tomboy Max in the chat. I feel uh that's kind of uh a little uh celebrity sighting there. And we will be, by the way, at Brasserie Capri tonight for game four, Canadians, Sabres. Get there early. But most importantly, I've got instructions for you. You have to call and make a reservation because it is going to fill up. You want to call 514935.
Sean, show the number. 514935.
I'm [ __ ] with you. 0228 5149350228 and say Max von hot 20 or say tomboy max or apparently people have called and said like what chaos and they're like you're going to have to do better than that out there what you talking yeah uh but be there it's going to be un film braserie capri it's going to be a blast uh the way we're putting it is fans of all teams welcome as long as long as they're not like >> Golden Knights fans. No, I'm just kidding.
>> We're going to do some Golden Knights chat today. Uh we're going to do a lot of other things. Before we get to what's on the show, I do want to sneak in like a little game four mini section because Sean, >> players are hitting the ice for morning skate. Yesterday, they did their classic uh playoff off day optional skate, which is whoever's out there, you could just take it as a sign. Uhoh.
>> Those guys ain't playing. Uh-oh. You you apparently butchered Max's last name, so you're you're back to square one.
>> What are you working with? I only know you as Tomboy Max and the goat legend.
Tomboy Max also said, "Always lurking in the chat."
>> Really?
>> We have we have an amazing audience. Uh what's going on in morning skate for the Sabres? Because I believe we've got a goalie change for Buffalo, >> it appears. So, looks like uh has a net, the starters net to himself.
So, they're making the change.
>> Nice. Uh, a lot of people suggesting the theory that we rattled Alex Lion and now have maybe had a further impact on this series.
>> I mean, we're not getting there and making it about us. It's just about us and we have to react.
>> You didn't make it about the world made it about you. Yes, we were catching a lot of blame or I guess we also got some credit from uh Canadians fans who like keep it up boys.
>> Rattle those goalies.
>> So >> that we were talking about last night like would they dare do something like that? And I just thought it would be coaching scared, playing scared. You go into a building that is a difficult environment. Definitely one of the if not the craziest atmospheres you can play in. And you lose the first game on the road and your goalie is amazing.
>> I wouldn't say amazing, but he was it was very deeply not his fault.
>> I would say that he was amazing for a lot of it. Yeah. But I was saying this to Pete last night, like when a goalie is really really good and it ends up being a game where they give up like say say they they allow only one or two goals the first period and then you know the floodgates open and everything. I don't look at it as yeah they ended up letting in in Alex Lion's case five goals. So five goals that's a bad night for him. You put it as like he just couldn't keep them in it longer than he was keeping him in it. Like I I still think that Lion was Yeah, maybe amazing is an exaggeration, but I'll tell you this for free.
>> He was amazing the first like 30 minutes of the game.
>> The Levy tends to break when you're facing that much. And the Levi tends to break if he's a Buffalo Sabres prospect.
>> A small guy.
>> That's right. Uh yeah, it's it's almost like score effects where it's just like if you're just constantly and and like when you let up the the backbreaking third or fourth or whatever goal that kind of makes it seem insurmountable, everything from that point on is just like, okay, whatever. The game's lost.
But I I agree with you. It feels like a kind of a panic move to go to UPL. Yeah.
And I I like to be team Lindy on everything.
>> I mean, >> but maybe it's not maybe it's not a Lindy thing. Maybe it's a Yarmmo thing that a lot of times can be the collective making the decision.
>> I don't like it until you know like a struggling team yesterday made a goalie change and won. It worked for them. So like I don't think that the Sabers should >> in the top 10.
>> I don't think the Sabres should be >> never left >> like I don't think the Sabres should be looking to the Avalanche for what they should be doing. I think the Sabres have established themselves as >> kind of in the driver's seat this postseason. But if it worked for a team like the Avalanche, maybe sure you try that for yourself.
>> I I like it only because this is like your only chance to do it. If you put Lion in I mean, I guess you put Lion in today and they lose like you have to go to UPPL in game five or game six. Yeah, game five, which is not uh ideal, I don't think. So, play them now, see what you get, and then um you can decide where to go from there. I think it gives you more options this way.
>> I don't think it's necessarily a bad move. It's kind of a risky move. It's kind of a risky move and like we talked about it when they went to to Lion. Like when you are the Sabres and you've had a goalending committee the all season long and it's been a strength of yours. Why why push that aside in the playoffs?
Like why not utilize it to your advantage? It is a luxury. But there does hit a point in a playoff run where it becomes somebody's net until they lose it. And I just don't feel like Alex Lion lost the net.
>> Yeah, I agree.
>> I think that if anything, game >> two is the game where you're like maybe make a goalie change after that. Just get Uko Pekalukan in a game, but you don't want his first game to be >> Yeah.
>> game three in Montreal.
>> But now it's now his first game is game four in Montreal.
He didn't play on the road in game in the first series. So his first road playoff game ever is going to be at Bell Center. That scares me a little bit. Um, but honestly not even the most like uh exciting slash uh >> I mean this is the >> biggest move I guess of the morning.
>> I would say this is the biggest move but >> it is >> the most like what the hell move. Yeah, but like the uh the people have been asking for constell uh Sam Carrick is a little roughed up from that cheap shot from uh Arbor. So it looks like we're getting Sam Carrick in the lineup which or Jesus, we're not getting Sam Carrick in the line. We're getting Costa Helen in the lineup and I'm very excited about that. The finisher says, "You guys are tripping."
Classic. Any anyone in Montreal is just always just We're just doing our hockey show in Montreal and they're calling for the They're saying, "Hey, those guys are out there tripping."
>> I mean, famously, we're literally tripping. We're road tripping right now.
>> That's right. We are on a trip. Uh Constahellinus in playing tonight. Burns that first year of the entry- level deal. They had him sitting at nine. They had him sitting at nine.
>> My only problem who cares do it.
>> Well, I agree. My only problem with that is like I guess it doesn't I guess it doesn't matter because they won the first should have done that earlier like especially when you were having like uh you're waiting for Carrick to come back you uh what's his name like Austin got hurt Norris got hurt like I would have had him in there at some point but better late than never I suppose again but it's another situation where like now you're putting a child first ever playoff game period what's essentially a must-win at Bell center. Little scary, but maybe he's too young to uh to be worried.
>> Uh pressure makes diamonds and we have suggested that a lot of the sabers might be too stupid to feel pressure.
>> True, true, true.
>> Yes. Which is what you want sometimes, right? Ignorance is bliss.
>> 100%. 100%.
>> How many times you look at a dumb [ __ ] and be like, "Damn, if I didn't have their self-awareness, >> my life would be so >> Or if I had their lack of self-awareness."
>> Yeah.
>> God, it's not scream. It's just like lack of awareness sometimes.
>> Yeah. I mean, yeah, no awareness for anything for yourself or anything else.
But then those are the people I feel bad for who are like >> rude and I can tell they're not rude.
>> They're just not considerate. They just like don't think that, oh, this might inconvenience somebody or whatever.
>> Yeah. So, we're we're calling Constahellinus rude.
>> He's rude.
>> I don't know how we got there, but yeah.
>> What's on the show today, Pete?
Today on the show, also by the way, chat big disagree about the lion situation. I know people in chat saying good move.
So, all right.
>> Here's the thing.
>> People just love.
>> You don't like Alex Lion like we do. So, that's the difference.
>> And they love >> He was nice to us one time and then didn't know who we were the other time.
>> The people love them some pepper.
>> Today on the show, uh we're talking Saber Shakeup. May have already done that. Maybe a little bit more. Uh ABS Rising. Yeah, they're climbing up the power rankings. is a once uh >> could be >> a once joke of a team >> barely in the top 10 in this playoff race >> behind the Coyotes >> is back on track perhaps >> man Arizona needs a hockey team back I got multiple DMs and like comments and stuff when people saw the Coyotes on the power rankings being like I miss my boys like ah me too >> bring him back >> I like the nice little touch of uh Nathan McKinnon on the on the show >> nice I like that uh night do you always put like a an element Oh, I didn't see.
I was like, "This one's naked." Yeah, there's always something on the left or right. So, I thought he didn't have anything.
>> Well, when So, a little behind a little uh inside baseball. Uh when I made the thumbnails, which I don't anymore. Pete does. Um I would take one of the people that I had on the thumbnail and just put it there. Now, since you make the thumbnails, I just get something that is related in general. Uh and I saw this picture. That's a good one. Spot.
>> Very good. Uh Nights Uneical.
Who could have guessed? uh latest installment in that book. And finally, TV is hard.
>> TV is hard. They TV had a rough go of it.
>> Tve >> or has been having a rough go of it.
>> T didn't have a bad >> No, T had a great night.
>> T is getting good.
>> Tve >> Lavoy's getting uh shout outs. God bless him.
>> TNT. Good night for TNT yesterday.
>> TNT. They didn't have a game, right?
>> Yeah. Just being off.
>> Just be sometimes off day.
>> Sometimes the best broadcasts are the ones you don't do. Mhm. Little little Pton Manning MVP talk. MVP. They weren't there.
>> Absolutely.
>> Look what happens when TNT is not around.
>> Uh Danny A at one point tried to trade all those Nets picks to draft uh Justice Winslow.
>> And I forget what team some team turned him down. They were like, "Nice try.
You're not going to be able to jump ahead of us and get Justice Winslow."
>> That's the best trade Danny A never made. Got Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown as a result of it. Uh, the Avalanche have taken a 3-1 series lead by virtue of a 52 victory over the Minnesota Wild in Minnesota. They make the goalending change. They go back to Does this Do we do back? If you ever Yeah. If you ever go to >> It works for both. Remember, we we've decided that it works no matter what.
You don't have to ask if it works, >> right? Because if they've ever played for your team, then you're good. And then if if somebody started the previous game, you're just going back to them because they had the previous previous game.
>> Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. So uh they go back to uh Mackenzie Blackwood.
>> Correct. Yeah.
>> Back to Mackenzie Blackwood. Old faithful. It works. They would It was a It was a good third period. Lot of like back and forth action. Like I was Yeah.
We were watching it in a bar that did not have sound, but I was pretty [ __ ] locked as that game went on in the Avalanche. End up uh jumping back ahead in the third period on a Parker Kelly goal after Nico Sturm had tied it. Ross Colton goal before that, too. Three straight goals from guys getting their first goal of the playoffs.
>> Is that right?
>> Yeah. I mean, the ABS now I saw it this morning. And the ABS have 15 goal scorers in the series through four games and like 16 is the most ever in a series. So like ABS depth unbelievable.
Spreading the wealth. Uh two things that I think we need to talk about from this game. Of course there was late in the second period where Nathan McKinnon took a puck to the face. We're going to show you video of it, but it was very bloody.
So I tried to cut out the worst of it.
You'll still see a little blood, but just know there was a lot of blood and we could talk over it as you play.
>> Should have kept the blood in.
>> I don't know how YouTube would be when when I showed cocaine, you guys got mad at me.
>> Well, cocaine is different than blood.
Blood in a hockey game and a illegal drug are two different things.
>> And cocaine at a party.
>> Yeah, I would say though those are two different things.
>> Those are No, but like blood at a hockey game like Oh, yeah. There might be blood at a hockey game. There might be cocaine at a party. Sean, grow up.
>> I suppose that part is true.
>> I've never done cocaine. I feel like terms of service probably is more harsh on the drugs than the blood.
>> I would think so.
>> Yeah. Woke. Uh, give me Sean. It will be drugs.
>> McCarron tosses one on net. Off the stick of Blackwood ends up in front.
Scooping one towards the net.
>> Fino. A save by Blackwood.
>> Yeah, like right to the face.
>> And now McKinnon is hurt.
>> That's the worst of the blood if you've been looking away. though. And then he goes down the tunnel and damn, there was a lot of blood cut from that.
>> Yeah, there was there was one blood cut from his face.
>> They were doing like slow motion replays of just blushing.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah, it was it was crazy. Like blood doesn't I know. I get the blood like makes some people uncomfortable. Doesn't make me uncomfortable like that, but it was like all Oh, [ __ ] Not supposed to be leaking like that.
>> There was so much blood. And then on the third period, there was the shot of him on the bench because, of course, hockey player tough. It was right before the intermission, so he was able to get whatever he needed. And then he's back on the bench. And there is I know I saw a lot of like new meme, new whatever just dropped. There's Nathan McKinnon on the bench face of uh god knows what. You got it, Sean?
>> Yeah. Just a lot of We We're UFC guys now. We watched UFC the other night >> when >> they clean him up at the in between rounds, the cut man and everything and then they get back out there and within one second their face is unrecognizable.
That's what Nathan McKinnon was going through yesterday.
>> I'll be honest like I I was expecting way worse. I was expecting his face to look way worse than that.
>> Same.
>> Uh I thought he was going to be in a bubble and we got robbed the bubble Nate which makes me sad. But >> now we his nose was not always perfectly straight. Obviously, his nose there is I I think probably broken and probably a little bit more [ __ ] up than it usually is, but Nate doesn't have a perfectly straight nose. And I was like, "Okay, damn." No bubble, no like real fair. No real damage to like the exterior of his face. Not bad.
>> And we make jokes about the Avalanche sometimes because I mean they are the I would say clear favorite to win the Stanley Cup. I think the darling of the NHL all year, but they're [ __ ] awesome. And there are some moments that just remind you of why you [ __ ] love hockey so much. Nathan McKinnon last night, it wasn't just that he got hit with this puck. He had his 2003 Paul Korea moment. And if you do not know what I mean by 2003 Paul Korea moment, there was a player for the uh Mighty Ducks of Anaheim back in the day. Paul Korea, their captain, undersized guy, great great player, University of Maine, first overall pick. everything to like about this guy. And he got [ __ ] lit up in game six of the Stanley Cup final by Scott Stevens, who we've talked about on this show. Really imposing Devil's defenseman. Just really just rocked his world. Was lying down on the ice. It looked like he was just out. Looked like he was dead. And there's like the puff of air that you see because it's so cold in there. You're like, "Okay, he's alive. He's breathing." He comes back into the game and he scores a huge goal, just a [ __ ] laser. And it's like the player who goes through the the physical uh strife of something that violent in this game and then is still able to work and make a [ __ ] hard play when it matters. Nathan McKinnon didn't just stay in this game. He scored a [ __ ] sick goal. Sean, hit it.
CENTER CIRCLE SETS UP MCKINNON SCORES INTO THE EMPTY NET.
>> I MEAN, goosebumps for me. That is that's Paul Korea [ __ ] from Nathan McKinnon.
>> It's drama. It's real drama. It's real cinema.
>> I mean, everyone's going to remember watching that game and Nathan McKinnon staying in and scoring like a quintessential Nathan McKinnon goal.
>> We were I would say it's mostly impressive because it's not a quintessential Nathan McKinnon goal >> because it was a goal. No. No. Yes.
Right. Because it was an empty net and it went in the net.
>> Yeah. No, but a coinc.
>> Yeah. Yeah. No, the joke was >> I understand. But the joke is that Nathan McKinnon misses empty nets.
>> Yes.
>> Well, when there's a goalie, >> all of his goals are empty.
>> To be a goalie somewhere on the ice >> was the joke and he'll miss it.
>> Yeah. We'll read. We're going to print out a script and we're going to be fine.
The next >> I did forget about that aspect of the uh Nathan McKinnon lore. That that is kind of as as much as he is an empty net merchant, he is also the guy >> and you wouldn't say that a quintessential goal is one that he doesn't score. God damn it, Pete.
>> I said it was the opposite of the quintessential goal.
>> But it's not if the >> I get I get what you're saying. It's not a goal if he doesn't score. But >> but I mean technically we almost got to the finish line is a goal that you the opposite of a goal is a goal you don't score. So if it's a quintessential goal >> that's what I was saying like you can't say goal if >> the opposite of that would be a non-quintessential no goal.
>> Well he >> which I don't know what that means.
>> A non-quintential no goal would be >> like he's tripped on a breakaway or something like he doesn't go just makes a glove save.
>> Yeah. But good for Nathan McKinnon man.
just uh a [ __ ] legend. Speaking of violence, we've got a big time was this a penalty from this game. Sean, do you have the was this a penalty graphic?
>> Oh, yes.
>> All right. Uh Marcus Felino in this game had Brett Kulak in his [ __ ] crosshairs. Uh, I'll say before we play this, we don't try to coach much here, but like there it some plays are a reminder to keep your [ __ ] head up when you're out there because for a million reasons. Give me the give me the play, Sean.
brothers in the 39.
>> So you want to keep your head up because if you do, you can get out of the way >> and then the other guy can just smash his entire life into the end boards. It's truly one of my favorite plays in hockey when a guy just I love a big hit, but I think I love a missed big hit more.
>> It's lot it's >> the better the better outcome there.
Like that's not the most ideal outcome.
I think the better ideal outcome there is Felino absolutely destroying his own brother and teammate in the corner by accident. Yeah. Like that would truly be the ideal outcome. But that's the second most ideal outcome there.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Nick was right there and Marcus was like got him right where I want him. He's not there anymore. Leroy Jenkins. Happy anniversary.
>> Yes. Yesterday was the 15 anniversary of Leroy Jenkins.
>> Yes. And I am getting closer and closer with every year to understanding what it means >> what to what it means to do a Leroy Jenkins.
>> I feel like you you you really like you're right there.
>> Honestly, by not understanding Leroy Jenkins, you're kind of Leroy Jenkins.
>> Sometime in our lifetime, I'm going to understand this.
>> I don't know if I want you to.
>> We watched the full video yesterday and it's way funnier than I remember. Like start to finish. Obviously good buildup is very good.
>> There's a number crunch going on.
There's uh 33.3 repeating of course >> of course percent survival rate. Like that is one of the best videos of all time.
>> Jenkins >> Chad is having a blast with Leroy Jenkins right now. Uh ABS up three to one in this series. I won't lie to you.
I was uh I I wanted the the Wild to tie it. I want this one to go along. I want I want teams lining up for the [ __ ] Colorado Avalanche. Like the >> the Kings can't do everything. They're not and they're not in it anymore.
>> Like someone's got to give the Avalanche a [ __ ] series. Kings did. Wild. I'm a little underwhelmed at this point.
>> Fair. Yeah. I mean, Wild be careful.
You're sliding down these rankings.
Kings are going to be in front of you.
Yeah.
>> Uh yeah. After this one, Avalanche probably I would say no movement. Kings up, wild down.
>> You said we watched a game at the bar.
>> No sound.
>> You said we watched a game at the bar with no sound last night.
>> True, but also not true. I'm not going to name any names, but there were people at the bar yelling like, "Fuck the Wild."
>> And I I didn't really understand that.
>> Me either. I don't understand. I mean, prior to this year, it was weird if you had any feelings on the Minnesota Wild.
So, to all of a sudden be super anti- Minnesota Wild, not sure where that came from. I'm still I'm still like I like the Minnesota Wild experience. I obviously wish that they were >> getting getting the job done a little bit more and I miss some certain guys that are not playing in this series of course, but >> I don't know man. And Valset didn't look amazing last night either. So >> uh >> was which goal was it? I think it might have been >> Parker Kelly.
>> Was it the Kelly goal where he just like >> kind of hit his shoulder?
>> Didn't think he was going to shoot it and he was moving. It was he had a pretty clean look at it and just I think yeah off the shoulder not his best night while dead I think you you know that I am I I want I want the Avalanche to be challenged. I am always curious to see how the team that gets anointed in Canada the Stanley Cup in November ends up actually doing and I think the Avalanche have a really good chance of winning the Stanley Cup.
I but I want to see teams lining up and [ __ ] taking blows at them. I'm not saying like lining up in like dirty hits. I'm saying like I want teams out there dying to [ __ ] take two three games off them.
>> I mean they're trying.
>> Yeah, I was like they are going to die trying.
>> I don't think that the Kings or the Wild are particularly just like >> No, Kings. No, Kings were great. Kings were great. They controlled the series.
>> I wanted this to be more of a series and it it is a hard series. It is hilarious how much of the the Kings control the series thing is like legitimately not a joke.
>> They obviously got swept, but they >> they control the series. Look at how that series was played.
>> Dictated how that series got played.
>> So funny to me.
>> Extend DJ Smith.
>> Yeah.
>> I mean, they might have to.
>> Oh, no. Actually, they're the team that's allowed to talk to Bruce Cass.
>> One of 30 teams.
>> Yes, exactly. They have the the golden ticket. Uh >> I don't know if they I don't know if the Wild are dead, but I feel quite uh bad about the state of things.
It's a commanding 3 to1 are not losing three. If they I'd >> be [ __ ] floored the lost 2023 Boston Bruins were up 3 to1.
>> Yes, >> they're not the Colorado the 202526 Colorado Avalanche.
>> They are they were so much better than the 202526 Colorado Avalanche. They were so much better than that team.
>> They were nasty.
>> Okay, >> but I mean >> their goalending was so much better.
their defense. Like >> I would say at every position group, yeah, every position group they might have been better than that team. I'd have to go back and look, but >> the Boston Bruins who were choking dogs were possibly the Yeah. Like maybe the best team of the last however many years.
>> How far did they get?
>> They lost in the first round.
>> Okay, very cool. Thanks, guys. Yep. Um >> yeah, don't Well, don't do that. [ __ ] I One of my friends, Scott, is like this. It drives me [ __ ] crazy.
He truly believes the best team always wins. I'm like, how are you a [ __ ] sports fan? You goddamn idiot. I love you, Scott.
>> Uh, no, but I mean the difference is is that the playoffs are a different animal and we've seen the ABS win games and win a series about to win, too. That's not really the case with that that Boston Bruins team.
>> And you want to be the team that wins.
You don't want to be that's you don't want to be like there is an argument that the 2004 St. Louis Cardinals were better than the 2004 Boston Red Sox. I don't really buy it. I mean, the 2013 I distinctly remember the first time I went on a tour at Fenway Park. One of the first things that the tour guide said, they took us near the uh the Boston bombing like little thing that they had there and they said, you can ask anyone in this city or anyone on this team, the Boston Red Sox were the best team in baseball that year and they'll tell you no.
>> No, definitely not.
>> They just had a little magic to them.
>> I I think the best team doesn't always win, but the team that deserves to win usually wins.
>> Yeah, that's fair.
>> Yes, exactly that. Not always, but usually.
>> Usually. Yeah. And sometimes the like we were talking about it last night, the whole like my thing with the Avalanche this year has been like we all decided they're winning the cup in November and that's great. Congratulations to them if they do. But I a lot of times that team something [ __ ] happens and you you hope it's never injuries, but the only teams that I can think of where it's like that team's winning the cup and they obviously win the cup were those Chicago teams.
Like 2013 Chicago Blackhawks.
nobody else was winning that [ __ ] cup.
>> But I but I feel like in the case of this year's Avalanche, you have this thing that like you think that everybody like is awarding them the cup and like maybe that was early in the year. I don't think that that is the case anymore. We talked about this last night. Like I I feel like people aren't handing the cup to the Avalanche. Like they're the favorite for good reason I would say. And I think that most people are considering the field to be pretty open. No, >> I do. I do. But I think that I think that the avalanche, whether it's betting, whether it's odds wise or whatever, or just like narrative-wise, maybe I watch a lot of hockey night in Canada, listen to more hockey podcasts than I think, but the conversation as generally and and you want this, you want to be the best team by far and you want to be considered the best team by far. I think that this year people the conversation has been that the Avalanche are a lot better than everybody else and like playing in a great division and people got I I think that you mentioned the Hughes trade yesterday that makes it a lot more exciting but Avalanche have been the clear favorite. Yeah, I feel like for the first half of the year it was the Avalanche and everybody else, but I feel like post Hughes trade, post Olympics, it kind of opened up to be like, okay, who's coming out of the west in the central?
>> But that was we were doing that. I think we got a little more excited about some of the central teams.
>> Well, I mean, I feel like at the beginning of the calendar year, the ABS kind of sucked for a little bit and I think the uh the certainty around them kind of diminished a little bit. But I mean, they are the best team in hockey.
>> Yeah. And like, why wouldn't you pick them to be the favorite?
>> They're the best team in hockey.
>> Other than that, [ __ ] happens, which is what I'm excited about.
>> I personally don't view this as an open field. I think there are one and a half teams that can win the Stanley Cup. I >> at this point I don't I mean I think the Wild Carolina.
>> Yeah. Like I think the ABS are going to win the Stanley Cup and I think Carolina is the only team that can give them competition. I don't believe in the Sabres or the Canadians in a sevename Stanley Cup final against the Colorado.
I'll say there's only or the Ducks are >> baseball.
>> If the Canadians get to the Stanley Cup final, there's going to be some [ __ ] magic behind that. And I'm not going to say that they don't have a chance to win. Like Carolina is probably the best team in the Eastern Conference top to bottom in terms of their structure and the way that they play. And they probably give Colorado the best series.
You're right about that. But if the Habs go through Carolina or the Sabres, not gonna say that the series is over yet. If either one of those teams gets through Carolina, goes to the Stanley Cup final, there's going to be a certain level of belief in them based off of what has happened in the Eastern Conference final, >> that's good for [ __ ] them. Like I think if the Sabres get to this I think I if the Sabres get to the Stanley Cup final against Colorado, I think I think they get swept.
>> I also >> I'm very I feel pretty good that they would get swept. Now, I want to There's only there's a couple of teams where if they made the cup final, I'd be like, "Eh, whatever." But I'm pretty cool with any of the remaining teams winning the the cup. We've >> Gold Knights we've given the Golden Knights I was going to say we've given the I said other than a couple of teams like we've given the Golden Knights uh a hard time and have just said we find them generally uninteresting. That would be one for me where I'd be like h whatever. But >> that would just be really pro Marner. I was talking with some of like the writers who have been like around. I have not been to every arena in the the the NHL, >> talking to people who have been. We were talking about like the craziest environments because obviously in Montreal like this is like [ __ ] up there.
>> See, that's the thing. You can't say this is it. You haven't been to all of them.
>> But this is like >> it's not it anyway. It's just it's just the best. I mean, if there's another if there's another atmosphere in North American sports that compares to this, >> they're they got they need and I'm not I'm not [ __ ] on the Canadians, but like I I have been to crazier atmospheres than like what we were at the other night. And we were talking about like buildings that got the Yeah.
For me, number one, For me, number one is Vancouver game one of the 2011 Cup final. That was the craziest I've been in because they didn't realize yet that their team was [ __ ] And that's a good example, by the way, of it like the best team doesn't win. I love the 2011 Bruins. The Vancouver Conucks were the best [ __ ] team in the league that year. They were very injured by the time they got to the cup final and they had a meltdown. They got goalie. Like Bruins were perfect for [ __ ] with that team.
And that's why you ask any of these national guys, Canadian, American, or whatever, they'll tell you, "God, I [ __ ] loved that 2011 Bruins team because they were just brilliant with how they dismantled this really, really good team." But we were throwing around like craziest environments and like Montreal playoffs was kind of making everyone's rush more, but some were saying, you know, this place, this place, this place.
If the Canadians are in the cup final, I think they will take that mantle unequivocally because the average Canadians game, the average Canadians playoff game is just about as [ __ ] crazy as the >> cup final >> as your Vancouver Cup final, as your Edmonton Cup final. A lot of love from the national people last night for Boston, which >> really like for me like in years past.
>> Yeah. Like craziest for me, Boston was game seven of the Eastern Conference final when it was like, "Holy [ __ ] they're going to the cup."
>> But >> yeah, >> I think if the Canadians were in the cup final with how insane they are already, >> they would take the mantle. Boston has like a great crowd, but they don't have like the ceremony like like Montreal does. Like Boston can have an awesome crowd, a great building, very loud.
Their game presentation I I would say has taken like a step back in the past few years.
>> Boston for Montre. Okay.
>> I haven't I mean I guess I can't compare it to too much. They started putting AI [ __ ] in some of the game presentation >> on their [ __ ] jumbotron >> for no [ __ ] reason.
>> I'm not blown away by Boston these days.
>> No. I mean even before game four of the of the first round series, I was very underwhelmed by like the pregame presentation stuff. And I'm not going to read into the crowd too much. one, because they got their [ __ ] asses kicked from the opening puck drop, and number two, their level of belief in this Bruins team just like hasn't really been there all year. It's been helpful, >> right? So, like fans show up and they're like, I hope we get like a decent game tonight, but like there was no massive energy to the crowd.
>> So, shout out chat. A lot of people brought this up and some of the national people yesterday said this. Boston 2019 when Charara came back with the broken jaw that pregame I wasn't in the building so I don't like but watching that were you in the building?
>> Yes. It was so unbelievable.
>> So do you think that the other night was crazier than that?
>> Well, it's it's hard to compare because that was like an an isolated like 30 seconds and >> that energy was in the Habs building the entire game. That was I guess that's where my thing with like any other place comparing to it is that like >> places can be equally loud and crazy, but >> the loudness was not the thing. It was the the sustainability and just like the ceremony that goes along like no one's comparing to the [ __ ] the torch and the flames and the [ __ ] music at the beginning of that game. The olays like nobody else has got it like that. And I think if anybody else tries >> that's so that's what I think is the that that's how you put it. No one has it like >> like yeah sbell I think it's such a unique experience like other places can be loud like I think Buffalo >> obviously like I thought game one was the like prior to the game three the other night was the craziest thing I had ever experienced. Um but yeah also >> there there's some plurus to it also like you say that everyone is just like so locked in so together it is like there's a cyber organism just >> yeah the crowd is like the crowd is just a monster like it is a >> entity monster >> like the wave hit different to me there because you ever see like if a hornet or something is like trying to attack a beehive and all the bees will like join together and like flutter their their like little wings and stuff and make their buzzing noises and it's like to scare away the other people. Like that's what that felt like to me in Montreal where it was like they are all they're not just doing this cuz they're they don't know puck and they're bored. This is like an intimidation like a scare tactic and it hit a little different for me. Also, real quick aside, uh Logan Stanley out >> in >> Michael Karing.
>> Luke Shen.
>> Luke [ __ ] Shen. What? First off, why does Lindy hate Michael Kessler so much?
>> There there's something there, man.
>> Why does he hate that guy? I don't know.
>> I think he would run him over with his car if he knew he wouldn't get in trouble.
>> I think he might.
>> I don't know what >> Shen, he hasn't played in ages.
>> What does he need or want Michael Kessler to be >> like 100 pounds heavier and like six years older?
>> You want him to be [ __ ] Luke Stanley or Logan Stanley.
>> That's disappointing. Lindy, a bro, >> I love you, but uh we're a castle family here. Breaking news. Finalists for the 2026 Jim Gregory GM of the year award as voted by their peers. Uh it is Don Sweeney, Stan Bowman, and Yarmmo. No. Uh I was going to say that >> Bill Garin, Chris McFarland, Pat Verbique.
I refuse to participate in any of this.
Kevin Adams, posumous GM of the year award should be awarded, but uh whatever. That's longer than we spend on most awards. Uh, yes. Uh, let's do Oh, Golden Knights. The Golden Knights are dragging their feet on what they're going to do with Bruce Cassidy. There's a tweet in a report from Frank Saraveali this morning. I'll read the tweet and then we can get into the story, which is very interesting. League sources from Frank Saraveali say the Oilers have sought permission to interview Bruce Cassidy as they contemplate significant coaching staff changes. To this point, sources say Golden Knights have withheld permission from division rivalry.
Gamesmanship perhaps mostly unprecedented for role. Before I get into the story, I'm going to give you some basic info here. Bruce Cassidy has one year left on his contract. It is believed Frank Sarvali uh says at least one in his report, but there was a report there that he's got one year at five plus million dollars on his deal.
Chris Knobblock >> begins a three-year extension next season. Starting a new extension. Oh, yeah. Like this upcoming season.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> He has a new contract that has not started.
>> That franchise is a mess. Sometimes >> they're going to PLLD him.
>> They're going to PLLD got traded before his contract began. Tyler Sean got traded before his contract began. This is what good franchises do. Now, this is kind of confusing, but I'll I'll explain it as best I can kind of from memory.
Uh, a team pays a coach they have fired until that coach gets a new job, but if the new job pays less, there needs to be some sort of agreement reached. It does it isn't like a complete you have to make him whole kind of thing, but there's a negotiation and an agreement that has to be reached. So, uh, on what the firing team will pay the coach who now has a new job. But typically, when a coach gets fired and they get a new job, they're getting a raise or they're making what they made before. So, it usually shouldn't be that big a deal.
But with Cassidy having one year left on his deal and the Golden Knights theoretically holding up any sort of uh permission being granted to get a new job, theoretically if the Golden Knights block Cassidy from getting a job, they are essentially paying millions of dollars to make sure their rival does not get the coach it wants. I'm going to do a quick little synopsis of uh the the Frank story. I I edited it down and I put some of my own stuff in here so it's a little quicker.
Uh and then we'll discuss the behavior.
The Evans Oilers have sought permission to interview Bruce Cassley. Blah blah blah. Uh thinking of significant changes to their coaching staff. To this point, the Vegas Golden Knights have withheld permission from their division rivalry.
Multiple league sources told Hockey 247.
Cassidy fired by the Knights in March he has at least one year remaining on his contract says Frank. Sources said Vegas had not outright denied permission for Edmonton to interview Cassidy, but had more so kept the Oilers waiting as they continue playing their second round series against Anaheim. Cassidy is also a target of the Los Angeles Kings vacancy. It's possible the Golden Knights answer is that Edmonton is seeking permission for a vacancy that does not yet exist. But they hired John Tordella while Cassidy was still actively coaching. It's part of the game, writes Frank. To be sure, withholding permission is a move that undoubtedly fits the ruthless front office reputation that the Golden Knights earned over their first eight years in the league. It's also one that might produce a phone call from Commissioner Gary Bman to smooth over, as permission to hire a fired coach is customarily granted and not withheld for any reason, even competitive. Quote, "It's ridiculous that we even need to ask for permission." One current NHL coach told Hockey 247 on Tuesday. This is a head coach said that it should be a formality written into the deal that we're free to seek employment anywhere and should just be a formality. The teams call to give a courtesy heads up.
Teams when they fire their coaches, I won't say always, but pretty much always are like, "Yeah, we don't want the guy anymore.
Let him get another job." And also, let's get this [ __ ] off our books. Right after the Bruins fired uh fired Clo Julian, the Canadians were like, "This is weird. Can we talk to Clo?" And the Bruins were like, "Yeah, absolutely.
>> Not ours anymore.
>> We're cheap." Like, "Fuck, you go pay that guy. All right, we just like, hey, >> Don Sweeny's probably thinking like, Jacob's going to be happy with me. I got that money off the books." Behavior on all this from the Golden Knights.
>> It's bad. It's bad. I mean, I I think that I I understand the gamesmanship of it, but there's also an element of just being like a >> a not morally bankrupt organization the way that you operate.
>> You sure about that?
>> You fire a guy and like release him into the wild, >> you I feel like you don't have a say on whether or not that guy gets to work again. Like that to me is I that's shitty behavior. I don't like it. you like the the financial element of it too is like they should not want to pay him.
I just don't like firing somebody, removing them from the job and telling them that they can't work. Like I obviously get it if you're like we're not going to pay you like that's how jobs work when you get severance and non-compete that runs through throughout a contract. But if you're firing a guy, especially in sports, and he gets another opportunity to coach, don't stand in the way of that guy, especially a guy who should be important to your team. won you your first Stanley Cup as an organization. There should be some sort of loyalty to that that presides over a loyalty to this rivalry.
>> Um well, first off, this is just Vegas Golden Knights being Vegas Golden Knights like we talked about last week.
Like they run this [ __ ] like a casino.
Like they don't care. This is how they treat players. Obviously, they don't have the same control over players, but they will send players out the door without any sort of loyalty. Also, this conversation is weird to me because people are acting like they're preventing him from coaching, period. They're just preventing him from going to the Edmonton Oilers as of right now, which Frank made very clear when he got upset with a BR Open ice tweet, like they didn't deny it. They just said not right now. and >> Vegas goes to Knights.
>> If yes, if you're the Vegas Golden Knights, why would you want Bruce Cassidy, who they know is a good coach, to go to the Edmonton Oilers? Like, >> but that's part of what I'm saying. I don't think they should have a say in that.
>> Okay. But they do. So, >> but but not typically like that's the point is that teams don't usually stand in the way even if it is a rival.
>> But they can is my point. Like they've always been allowed to do that. Just because they haven't doesn't mean they're not allowed to. Like I don't like if you need if you don't want this to happen then fix it. Like, but it is the situation they're in. They're allowed to prevent it. And again, they're not just completely being like, "Bruce Cassie, you're not coaching the NHL. Sorry about it." They're saying a team who has the best player in the world, a top five player in the world, and a top five defenseman in the world. We don't want a coach that we know is [ __ ] awesome to go coach that team when we know we're going to be competing. Like, there's a good chance the Oilers are playing Vegas Golden Knights in the first round of the playoffs next year. But what if what if Cassidy wants to coach in Edmonton?
>> Does that change your opinion of it at all?
>> I mean, what if that's his number one job?
>> That's unfortunate for Bruce Cassidy. I would like Bruce Cassidy to be happy. He seems like a a fine man, but again, the reality is the reality. Like he he doesn't have that control.
>> You disagree with the rule, but you're saying they're allowed to do this.
>> Yeah. And I'm like I I guess I disagree with the rule, but I certainly don't disagree with Vegas Gold.
If I'm the Vegas Golden Knights, I don't want Bruce Cassie to go to Edmonton. And if I have the ability to stop that from happening, I'm going to do that under any circumstances.
>> And what happens what is what could could possibly happen if Bruce Cassidy goes to Edmonton?
>> Win the Stanley Cup. And what would happen? What is more likely to happen if the Edmonton Oilers win the Stanley Cup within the next two years?
>> Conor McDavid stays in the division.
>> Conor McDavid stays in the division. So, I think there is I think that there's good strategy here. I don't think there's good behavior, but I think that there is strategy behind. You know what?
Let's try the Knights. I think >> want Bruce Cassidy to coach the Los Angeles Kings.
>> I mean, I think they wanted to coach anybody other than Conor [ __ ] >> McD. If they say, well, I'm saying like if the Kings are the other option, then yeah, which great job by Frank on this story. I don't like to do this.
>> Who do we think the source is?
probably.
I mean, it's definitely not. Is it Edmonton?
>> I think it's I think it's Bruce Cassidy because Bruce Cassidy just >> I was going to say maybe it's Edmonton to put pressure on they're like allowing them to it, but then >> they're volunteering that they're firing, which is >> that is that that would be very disrespectful to Chris Knobblock. But think of it this way. Bruce Cassidy and I don't know anything here but like Bruce Cassidy has interest from the Golden Knights. I'm sorry. Bruce Cassidy has interest from the Oilers and the Kings. He can talk to the Kings. He wants to go to the Oilers. And the Golden Knights are holding up the whole Oilers thing. Cassidy, if he wants to go to the Oilers, he doesn't want his other option to get filled before he knows if that Oilers's job is kosher. So, he is in a real no man's land right now because as a result of the Knights stringing the Oilers along, he's got to string the Kings along. And Kings might say, you know what, we've decided to give uh [ __ ] why can't I think of the Denver coach's name? David Carl.
>> You know what? We're going to give David Carl like $20 million and we're just going to get him. and then Bruce Cassidy has the year off and he could have been coaching Conor McDavid or uh Quinton Biffield or whomever in LA or Edmonton.
So that' be my guess.
>> There's strategy to it like and I I think everybody's right here like it's not it's within the what they can do. I just don't think it's good behavior and I think that we're all kind of in agreement on that. No, >> I mean I just think ultimately it boils down to when you fire a coach, I don't think that you should have the ability to stand in the way of them talking to new employers. Like that doesn't make any sense to me.
>> I agree. Unless it's a situation where like you cuz I don't know how like other leagues work, but like if you have to keep paying that guy regardless, then I like then a contract's a contract type of thing. Uh but in a situation like this where like if you go somewhere else you don't have to pay him or you don't have to pay him all that money whatever like yeah I I certainly agree with that but unfortunately that's not the world we live in right now. I think that's something I would imagine I feel like that's something that that coaches didn't think about cuz like you talked about it was so like uh just assume that's how it would always operate and now that something like this is happening I'm sure coaches in the future are going to make sure that it can't happen to them.
>> They need to now Edmonton needs to get Bruce Cass. was going to say this is pushing me to root so hard for Bruce Hass Cassidy to go to the Oilers just to kind of shove it up the Golden Knight's ass.
>> Well, well that but also >> you're going to I don't want to fire Chris Knoblock unless I'm getting >> Bruce Cassidy or John Cooper and the John Cooper thing isn't happening.
>> Yeah.
>> And the more I think about it, I don't think the John Cooper thing is ever happening because on some two years Conor McDavid's going to be a free agent. Let's like not let's not do anything that helps the Oilers keep Conor McDavid. If I'm if I own the Tampa Bay Lightning, I'm like just to be sure he could do a [ __ ] job for the next two years. I'm just keeping John Cooper just in case he ends up luring Conor McD cuz you Yeah. You're at least John Cooper's at least having a phone call with Conor McDavid being like what is it going to take?
>> Yeah.
>> So yeah, I will >> I don't think other teams are getting phone calls. There's also the uh like what happens if they let uh Bruce Cassidy like they say no Edmonton but LA's fine and then two yards from now Conor McDavid's like you know what sounds real nice sunshine and palm trees >> and he just ends up in LA or Austin Matthews ends up in LA >> say like what if Austin Matthews goes to LA and then the Golden Knights like [ __ ] didn't see this coming.
>> I hope this blows so we all hope this blows up in the Golden Knights's face.
Yes. I just hope I don't hope for anything. It's just like >> Sean says, "I have no hope."
>> No, but like what happens is what happens. Like you play games, you get those prizes. So like if this blows up in their face, then it blows up in their face. If it doesn't, then good play Vegas Golden Knights. We're all like we're all playing the game. I like I don't really have much of an emot a feeling on it one way or the other just because it's uh >> I'm down to play the game. No one's breaking rules. I'm down to play the game when the game makes sense and the game is like fairly ethical and I don't that's where my problem lies. I don't think it makes sense on some [ __ ] Mario Tennis Shy Guy [ __ ] I was getting [ __ ] by in Mario Tennis last night.
>> It is like the offer sheet thing though where like if you're allowed to do it and it can help you do it. But you just got to sleep at night knowing that you might I mean granted you're paying the guy $5.4 $4 million to not work. But >> but in offer sheets there there's compensation like there's >> well there's compensation here.
>> It's just the >> $5.4 million, >> right? But that is that's that team paying for the coach. Yeah.
>> Not not and by chance it also lets the other team off the hook, but I view it more as like that team is paying for the coach.
>> Yeah. They are paying their coach to not coach, which is how that whole process begins when you fire somebody.
>> You're on the hook for their money.
>> You do have that control. Again, I think we all disagree with it. Let him go where he wants to go. I think that that quote from the head coach to Frank. Uh again, good job, Frank on this is correct. Like it should just be a formality that when you when you're fired, you're free to seek employment.
>> I I disagree though. It shouldn't be a formality. Like formalities are where [ __ ] gets weird. Make it like law. Make it put it in.
>> You have to pay the coach, but the coach gets to seek employment wherever he wants.
>> Yeah. Like especially with when the Vegas like we know who the Vegas Golden Knights are. We know how they operate.
They're ruthless. That's how they've been so successful from the jump. Like I don't know. Just shouldn't be that trusting, I guess. Do you think we uh do you think that we're days away from getting Chris Knobblock news one way or another though?
>> I feel like they don't fire Chris Knoblock unless they have the coach.
>> They don't fire Chris Nlock. I don't think they make a decision publicly until Bruce Cassidy has a job whether it's with them or somebody else.
>> Respectfully, Chris Knobblock can't be that shocked that they're looking for another coach or even like kicking around the option.
>> I would have guessed that he'd be fired by now. like he's he's lasted longer than I would have thought and I don't think nobody thinks that the Oilers have a Chris Knobblock problem.
>> Well, here so I don't know if you want to have this conversation right now.
Maybe make more sense once he actually gets fired, but like >> what is Knoblock's future like? Cuz I don't think Do you think he's a bad coach?
>> No.
>> Like is another NHL team going to try and get him?
>> No. Like he had a record he re-enters the portal.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. That is a retread that I'm happily scooping.
>> Yeah. just so I I don't know it >> doesn't lose a lot of games in a row.
>> Like what happens if Knoblock leaves and he [ __ ] balls out somewhere else?
What does that mean for the others?
>> Knobblock to the Sharks.
>> Oh, I'm still not mad. Then they use Knoblock to lure.
>> Still don't fully understand why people hate Orsovski that much.
>> I'll be real and I don't know their relationship. I'm not a fan of how he does the whole Will Smith thing. Sure.
But I I'm I'm reserving judgment for him as a head coach until I see them have a full team.
>> Yeah. Like they they performed so far above expectations this year.
>> Coach of the year.
>> Coach of the year and no celebrini heart votes. That would have been awesome.
>> If they had made the playoffs, I I would have listened to that conversation.
>> We have a slightish breaking news. Matt Porter from the Boston Globe says we're going to hear about Charlie Makavoy suspension today.
>> Yeah, his hearing was yesterday. He's expecting it to be around five or six games.
>> Yeah, I think I I I said I wanted 10 and thinking it'll probably be eight a couple days ago. I was like, it's going to be six. Now I'm like it'll be two >> in-person hearing. Nah, two.
>> Yeah, something like that. Uh, very good conversation, boys. Very interesting. We will see what happens there. Now, the television has not been amazing because last night Nasam Cadri scored and apparently ESPN missed this goal with a wild go on the board first.
>> Yes. Cadre scores the tie it and they were airing a pre-taped interview during >> the news. Yeah.
>> With qu Oh, you can't miss that.
>> That's right. Yeah. Just >> riveting entertainment.
>> Do we have it?
>> All right. Hit me >> on the power play so far this series.
Yeah, it's good. Just uh feel like everyone knows what they're doing. We're feeling confident trying to get shots there and outman them. So, it's a good shot by Bra. Thanks, Ben. Appreciate it.
Yeah, thank you.
>> And now a good shot by Nasam Kadri on the power play.
>> That's the goal call.
>> Made a terrific initial save, but Colorado has tied the game with the man advantage.
>> This could be a [ __ ] on ESPN thing. It needs to be a We said it a million times. Stop [ __ ] doing the in-game player interviews and this doesn't happen. Go. I don't have as much of a problem like I don't think I definitely don't think it's necessary. I don't have a problem with the in-game player interviews so much as when they choose to air them. And that is clearly the problem. And you should not have anything that's pre-taped run during the course of play and replace it with the game audio in the game playbyplay. Like with shoes in there gets put in an impossible position to call a goal after rejoining >> following the goal. Like that's a horrible place to be in. And we always talk about how important like and why it's so important to us that broadcasts are good. And do we want to [ __ ] all over ESPN all the time? No, we do not.
But we want the product to be better because it's such an integral part of the sports viewing experience. It's like putting together a quality broadcast package can elevate the experience of sports watching so much, especially in hockey, especially in the playoffs. I want crowd noise. I want great playby-play calls. Like, it elevates the moment so much. And when you got a big game tying goal and you don't get any of it, any of the natural sounds, it's in a tiny little picture next to an interview where you're probably not getting anything of real substance. We don't need to do that. Prioritize what matters. It's the [ __ ] game.
>> I I don't even like I think you could do it during game play too even. It certainly I didn't which I didn't realize it was during a [ __ ] power play. That absolutely cannot happen. And it needs to Yeah, it needs to be like >> off of a goal like or off of an intermission where you're getting a face off at center ice and you can more than likely assume there's not going to be a scoring opportunity in the next 15 seconds. You can't do it when there's when a team's on a power play taking an offensive zone faceoff like that.
they're just at least a little more situational awareness or you have a quick trigger finger and be prepared to cut that [ __ ] like like I think about where I play FIFA all the time and they'll have the little cutins from the like the third person giving you score updates from other games but if you start >> streaking towards the box they'll cut that [ __ ] off and be like we got to talk about the game that's actually being [ __ ] played here and then they'll give you an update later about what she was gonna say like they're awesome if you can have them but they're not as important as the [ __ ] game. Cut that [ __ ] off when it looks like there's a goal about to be scored and play the rest of it later if you need to.
>> You can run a taped interview again. You cannot run the live feed again. Like >> I mean, I guess you can with a replay, but it's not the same.
>> It's not the same. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Like you said, and we've said it a couple times, like we're really I I don't want people to think that we're ESPN haters or whatever. We are hoping that ESPN can be good. And quite frankly, I could see any station doing that.
>> I'm an ESPN. It would [ __ ] It It would annoy me just as greatly either way. Like I I Yeah, ESPN. I think you've got so many resources and you've got so many talented people. Like it just >> I have a tough time understanding how it doesn't always work. You're Apple.
You're Nike. Like I want like I'm a big like I want the best to be the best. And obviously the TNT broadcasts are the best that we have right now. But like ESPN should be putting on the best product. They are the worldwide leader in sports. And the fact that they're not is disappointing to me because I want ESPN like I want [ __ ] uh Gary Thorne like not not which is not to say that like the playby-play people are the problem but like I want like ESPN hockey used to [ __ ] be something and there's no reason it shouldn't uh still >> they should do what honestly like do you remember in Vegas when Fanatics had like us some other people in they brought in some [ __ ] normal people who consumed the [ __ ] and they were like >> what do we need to fix? What are your thoughts?
>> Yo, like this isn't being recorded. This is We won't say like what the conversations were or whatever, but like what do you think we do good? What do you think we do bad? Like how is ESPN I'm sure that ESPN like focus groups their stuff. And not to put us on a pedestal, but like do it with us. Like we're the [ __ ] ones like a lot of people who and when I say us, I mean the people who >> watch [ __ ] 50 games a night and it all be obsess over as good as it can be.
And like >> even if you want to think or like people from ESPN, whatever want to think that we are just out to get ESPN, there are people involved with the hockey that we all are massive fans of and like at the very least we want to see them be put in good position to succeed. So, like there is a genuine interest. Like there are people who are obviously just [ __ ] haters and are going to be like nothing that ESPN does is going to be good enough for them, but like yeah, like we said, I want to see ESPN be [ __ ] awesome and I want to see people that work at ESPN who are obviously super talented being put in positions to succeed and not get [ __ ] on for stuff that's not under their control. Like EJ here is probably getting a bunch of [ __ ] and he has he has no control over something like that.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not his problem.
>> Yeah. I mean, Sportsnet, Chad is saying like Sportsnet does it the best and I would agree with that. And >> usually most of the time, yeah, >> Sportsnet, what do you mean?
>> Well, >> oh, what's next?
>> Well, yeah, we got an update on that.
>> To be fair, >> that's not the they we miss a goal like like they they are a weird and confusing thing.
>> Making sure that we're getting the product.
>> Real talk, Sportsnet is the best.
>> Yes. Yes. And uh >> to your point, DJ, I I just don't think that ESPN cares all that much. and they've had 3 years to fix some of the problems that still exist and persist and they haven't done it. I don't have a whole lot of faith and I definitely don't have a whole lot of faith that they want to listen to people like us because they have literally [ __ ] blacklisted us from talking to them.
>> Well, I'll say we like you. Let's have a conversation.
>> I like ESPN. My dream job was working for Sports Hunter when I was growing up.
Getting back to our conversation yesterday, I didn't know this job existed.
>> Exactly. This one's cooler.
>> Um, >> you don't have to go to morning skate and stuff.
>> You don't have to go to morning skate, but there's there was a time where I would have loved that [ __ ] Um, but I guess I don't know if you were going to mention it or not, but like in the uh in favor of like the in-game, I don't know if it was in-game or intermission, but like the McCarron interview they got yesterday after all that [ __ ] Yeah.
Like that's >> when you get things like that, >> that makes the all like the >> the right holders forcing their way into stuff worth it.
>> But that's that was Was that ingame or was that >> intermission? It was PK. And shout out to PK. We I had a lot of bad things to say about PK and how his whole experience and Yeah. Yeah, how he's used is annoying to me. He got a good got a good sound bite. Do we make this would be chat tell us if we should do this. Do we just make like in the off season or something like a 10-minute video of like like a fixing the Oilers but for fixing ESPN? And not in terms of like personnel stuff. I don't want to be like take this person off the desk, do like more of Emily here. Like I I don't want to do any of that [ __ ] because I don't want to [ __ ] with people's jobs, but like just how it's done because they do have I think they have the there are some people that on air that I would definitely use less >> or differently >> or or differently, but >> they definitely have the resources and they definitely have a lot of the pieces.
>> The problem is is that like >> like I don't think PK is bad. I think that the PK ESPN experience is bad and I hold him responsible for that, but I also hold ESPN responsible. Well, because remember when they had they had Carbury and the first time they had Carbury, Carbury brought like a lot of insightful analysis and I think it forced PK to like put his put his like, "Oh, I'm at my job suit on, no pun intended." And he was like, he did a good job complimenting Carbury. And then like the next time I saw Carbury, they were like, "Oh, no, do the funny stuff.
>> It's a little more ESPN. It gets a little more ESPN."
>> It's shocking. I the messier of it all is very interesting to me because he really doesn't seem like he fits what they're trying to go for, but he also doesn't provide like the good [ __ ] that we got from Carbury for the first >> remember earlier when I said people that I would use less >> or not at all.
>> Shout out Unoilers legend >> Mark. But like the problem the problem with doing like >> Ranger Finn >> the problem with doing like a fixed ESPN uh video is that like >> everyone knows like it's it's >> I don't think there's like a long list of things they need to fix. There's just a couple of like super obvious things that everyone has been like why can't we hear crowd noise? Why is the half of every segment during intermission about PK's outfits?
>> Why is the audio out of sync?
>> Fix those things.
>> Yeah.
>> And I I don't I'm not smart. Like I don't know what you have to do to fix those things, but they're not a problem everywhere. So it seems like it seems fixable.
>> I mean, >> I don't know though.
>> Yeah, we are three absolute idiots producing something that ends up looking pretty decent and sounding okay, if I may say so ourselves.
>> And there's only three of us.
>> ESPN, you've got at least five.
>> ESPN, let me let me produce the NHL broadcast. Nothing would go wrong. Well, that I I said that because I was thinking like if they asked us any technical questions, we'd be like, "What?
>> I [ __ ] know.
>> I don't [ __ ] know. Just get in there and work hard. That's what we do." Um, >> what happened with Sportsnet? They're using AI photos. They did a segment on uh Nick Suzuki and his newborn child the other night and they did like a broadcast package and included in that broadcast package was a uh collection of photos. And if that doesn't look exactly like Nick Suzuki to you, it's uh you're not the only person to notice that because everybody was like, "Why the [ __ ] did you AI yasify Nick Suzuki >> for a picture of their newborn child?"
>> His face looking snatched though.
>> Muzuki is a good looking guy.
>> He's naturally a good-looking guy. You don't need to [ __ ] >> go ahead and generative fill his face, >> especially if the other pictures are real.
Maybe he's got a >> with family photos, too. Like, I'm not your f like you if you want to [ __ ] AI your own family photos. Go ahead. Be a weirdo. But I can't.
>> That's your family. Yeah, >> right. It's you get to do whatever you want with pictures of your family and [ __ ] like that. Whatever. But a broadcast >> for some reason using AI when like you don't you have to include the photos or just do something else. So weird. And I don't think that they've said anything about it. I know that they went and they removed the video from YouTube and then I think that they removed the photos from their website as well, but like I'd like to hear what like Sports Net has to say about this >> because I like outside of the fact that they removed it like I don't I don't know that it's AI like it like >> Oh, it just doesn't know. I know that it's AI, but like that's a clear admission of guilt. I guess if you're taking it down. chat says, "Michael Scott on the ski trip with his girlfriend's family at Energy."
>> Exactly. Skis greetings.
>> Weird.
>> I don't know that one.
>> Yeah. Season three with uh Carol, >> his uh wife in real life where she breaks up with him because he made a a Christmas card of a picture of her with her husband and her and their kids.
>> Oh, he like Yeah. and he put himself over the husband.
>> Oh my god.
>> Greetings.
>> Oh god.
>> Having a >> I mean she absolutely breaks up with him for it.
>> And he tries to get her to stay by saying, "Oh, it's why he ends up bringing Jan to Sandals Jamaica because those tickets were for her."
>> Yeah.
>> And as she's walking, he says, "Carol, if you walk through that door, it is over."
>> Oh, damn.
>> I know.
>> I guess the chat's saying they haven't released any pictures of the baby yet.
So if as far as I'm concerned, as far as I know, so I think it's completely AI.
That's what I completely AI.
>> I thought that was out there.
>> That's so [ __ ] weird, man.
>> Yeah, you can't be doing that of somebody's child in particular. Like even like obviously doing it to Suzuki and his wife or other would be weird, but doing it to like somebody's baby >> when like there's especially like a lot of athletes who very purposefully don't allow pictures of their child to be put out like >> Right. Like >> that's not great.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you're making the decision to not post a photo of your child on the internet for millions of people to see, I don't think you're going to be happy with somebody taking a fake photo and saying that's your child and posting it for millions of people to see.
>> That shit's so weird.
>> Chad is just hammering Michael Scott selling trying to sell Carol on Sandals Jamaica.
Jamaica's largest freshwater pool.
>> I just like I need to be in like the room when some of these decisions are made. I I need to I need to listen to the logic of somebody being like, "Oh, there are no photos of the baby. Maybe we should just make him an AI." And was there any Was that idea floated to anybody else? Was there a a person who could have been like, I don't think this is a good idea? There's not more people like it seems like everyone the public is generally anti-AII especially in situations like this and I don't understand how there's nobody in the room being like I know that I'm not in charge here but I'm going just tell you right now people aren't going to respond well to this like I don't understand how they get there. I wouldn't even say like particularly in instances like this because like I think this is a completely unique instance fair where like if the if the avalanche want to use AI to like enhance their graphics and their goal things >> you shouldn't know you're probably going to get cooked because there's a general sense of like uh don't feel great about AI slob don't like that this sort of trend uh but using it to create a photo and and include it as part of a broadcast package which is why >> I mean this is like much more like I would say >> like like significantly more problematic and like a moral >> problem whereas like the other thing is like >> I just want to pro protect art and creativity but like this is like uh >> don't [ __ ] with a man's family that's right >> again and we've talked like if if you're restoring something or if you need or like the picture that you have needs like 10 more pixels to the right and you extend what like that in Photoshop has the option for like generative there.
But if you're generating a thing, >> it's where I don't do it. And if you are generating a person, you are getting into some really murky waters. And if that person is a baby, >> yeah, you're getting into the walk water's not murky. It is you cannot see through that at all.
>> That is bad water, folks. But it is a good Is it a good slate? That's what I want to know. We've got 10 or two. How many?
>> We actually have three, which I did not realize because the the Victto game, Victtois game was uh >> res at 7 p.m. Yeah, I know. That's complete and utter [ __ ] >> So, if you don't know, they're uh they re they postponed the Vikto game last night. We were going to go. I was so excited and due to illness >> it was postponed and I was texting with someone about it and I was like >> I hope everyone's okay.
>> Apparently mad because I wanted to go can't even watch the Buffalo Sabres play.
>> I don't know when the last time I've seen a a game postponed due to illness that like wasn't a pandemic.
>> I was going to say I remember a couple of games postponed.
>> Yeah. I mean, it literally just had to be like there had to be so many women sick that they just could not put together two complete rosters. And it's not like the N I'm not exactly sure like the uh the black aces situation is in the PWHL. I don't know how many like reserves they have access to. So, >> can I say this is a huge advantage for the Frost?
>> Oh, yeah.
>> That's so unfair.
>> Yeah, it's massively unfair. Yeah. And I like I have to assume that there's probably a lot of like women's hockey fans who will prioritize the Victtois over the Canadians, but like yeah, having them like just have be a little overshadowed by like obviously the Canadians run this [ __ ] and run this city. So like >> are you saying it's an advantage because the crowd will be preoccupied?
>> Yeah, >> that stinks.
>> Although I wonder how many people had tickets for yesterday that are like >> I'm I'm using these tickets.
>> Yeah. Like I I don't know. I feel like people that were going to the I don't know. I like they'll probably still sell out and whatever. But >> it's good though. It makes me feel like the the PWHL has arrived that we're yelling about. We're like we're yelling at them.
>> Yeah. Uh by the way, we got Pub Breaking news.
>> I know.
>> They're expected to uh officially announce Hamilton, Ontario, and Vegas this week.
>> Oh.
>> Which we kind of already There was a lot of smoke around that already. So they got one more. They got they they've done Detroit. They've done Vegas. They've done Hamilton. And there's expected to be one more somewhere.
>> Bruce Cassidy to PWHL Vegas.
>> Hell yeah.
>> Oh my god, that would [ __ ] rock.
>> Uh I know we got the slate grade.
>> Y >> we haven't mentioned the Charlie Coyle contract.
>> Oh yes. Breaking news in the NHL today is Charlie Coyle has agreed to a 6* 6 >> biggest contract ever. a six-year times $6 million contract with times $6 million contract with Columbus Blue Jackets in a deal that is stunning to me that I'm not a hater. I try to not be too much of a hot take artist unless I'm really feeling it. That strikes me as the worst contract in the NHL immediately.
>> You said that right away and I was like, well, your team employs Trent Frederick for the next seven years >> for $3.8 8 million and Trent Frederick is younger >> younger. Um but Sean raised the point >> at least Charlie Coyle plays and produces >> and so like if you're what's what's worse paying $3 something million for a guy who is a healthy scratch for a long portion of the season or paying for a older gentleman who is playing and producing. But the more I think about it I think that you are kind of close to right if not right that this is this >> balance of the balance of the contract.
Who would you rather have?
>> What do you mean balance of the contract >> for the next six years? Would you rather have >> That's what I was going to say. For the next three years, I'd rather have Charlie Coyle. The reality is in four years, you're probably paying both of those guys not to play hockey.
>> I would I would say I would say definitely for the next two years. And who know like Oiler or not, I think we're rooting for Trent Frederick to figure it out.
>> Next two years, >> absolutely give me Charlie.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Six. Six times two is like that's a lot for a third and a half line center what he's going to be becoming at that point. But [ __ ] it, whatever. He's a good player and he had a great year this past year.
>> He had a really good year this year and I felt so good about it. Like I felt so good that he kind of revitaliz revitalized his career a little bit. But then you're giving that guy a six-year deal when like a couple years ago I felt like he was on the precipice of me maybe being like PTO territory.
Six years is crazy to me. Even with the cap going up, you're paying him $6 million until he's 40 years old.
>> Hey, Panthers are doing it to Brad Marshon.
>> Brad Marshian's Brad Marshian, respectfully.
>> Charlie Coyle is Charlie Coyle and I like Charlie Coyle and like he was a a big part of some of these Bruins teams, but he was like a third line center and he was pretty good. I do wonder how if we're if it's going to start becoming a little bit of a trend where they're going to be like you're not g like we're paying you knowing damn well you're not going to be playing these last fan years of contracts and and if we're going to start seeing because I know we talked about with the Marshon thing the the fake injuries and all that type of [ __ ] at the end of the when they decide that they're not playing anymore.
>> You also said too you were like no free agents. So, I wonder how much of it is like >> Yeah, I think that's >> I don't I wouldn't I wouldn't give a guy six-year deal just because I'm like ah I don't really I can't really go shopping this summer >> and but like also >> there are no free agents but like there are free agents and those free agents are Charlie Coil level players like that's part of the so like I would have assumed you could get a third line center that is not 34 years old at $6 billion.
>> That is stunning to me. That is all stunning deal >> especially with all the young centers or centerish players they have >> and >> like you got Monahan you got Fantelli you've got is I think he's an RFA is uh what's Cole Cinger's contract situation >> I am not sure >> Blue Jackets Puckedia >> un Jenner's going to be a UFA right >> I don't I don't know, man. I I It's a weird deal. And I just I look at Charlie Coyle and he had a good good year last year. This is second best year of his career.
>> I know.
>> Second best year of his career at 34 33 years old.
How much are you expecting him to be that player for the next six years?
>> So is going to be an RFA. So Fantelli are there two and uh Igor Zamula. Are there three RFAs this year? Oh, and Jack Reeves. Jack Reeves RFA. Yeah, >> Ken Johnson is going to be traded, right?
>> I would think so. Backto-back years, backto-back years, the Blue Jackets have resigned one of their players to a deal that has immediately entered the worst contract in the league conversation.
>> Prov I was like, I know everyone's going to hate this a lot more than me. It's not a good contract. This is worse.
>> Yeah.
>> And I buried the lead. Like obviously very happy for Charlie Coyle. That's amazing. As Pete said year ago, making five and a quarter. People are thinking, I mean, he was getting bounced around.
>> The the Avalanche had this guy. Imagine if Charlie Coyle had the year that he just had for the Avalanche in Colorado.
They don't need to trade for Nasm Cadri.
They're they're in unbelievable shape. So, good for him. Very happy for him. Not what I have what I would have done if I were the Blue Jackets.
>> Certainly not.
>> But maybe they I mean, maybe he's a great fit there, etc., etc. Yeah, give me the slate, Sean. Thank you.
>> It just dawned on me that Hamilton getting a pet team means that I have a petup team.
>> Oh, >> I have a pet team within driving distance finally, which is going to [ __ ] rock.
>> Someone in the CBA subreddit float Charlie Coyle for captain. Respectfully, if Boon Jenner leaves and you don't Zach Warren captain, what the [ __ ] are you doing?
>> Yeah, I when I said like maybe he's good there, I was wondering if like there was some leadership thing and they're just like we got to keep him. He's what got this or maybe he was one of the few players that Rick Bonis was not talking about like we need more like this and then you let that guy walk then you say okay what are we doing here Sabres at Canadians game four Montreal leads two to one Habs trying to go up 3-1 Sabres trying to tie it you know how it is 700 p.m. You can watch that with us at Brasserie Capri with Tomboy Max. It's going to fill up. So, call to make a reservation. Call 5149350228.
Say Max Van Ho. I apologize again if I'm [ __ ] up the pronunciation. I know you was tomboy Max and you're a legend.
Ducks at Golden Knights series tied two games a piece. This is a good one. 9:30 p.m. Eastern. And man, Ducks can Ducks can grab control.
>> I need it >> on the road though.
Vegas getting that post, not letting their coach interview bump. This is going to be a good one. Good games tonight. Watch game four of the Sabres and Habs with us. Let's do some super chats before we get out of here.
>> Only got a only got five of them right now.
>> All right, good. Uh because uh we are running a bit late. Michael Curtis says, "I want the old Titan stick behind DJ."
Hell yeah. There's a lot of amazing stuff here.
Seeing like a shred of how cool this space is.
>> Yep. Max Lapierre and the gang in here.
Renee Maldonado says, "Kings played the ABS harder than the Wild." No doubt.
>> Cold series.
>> Check the power rankings. Cara McGra says, "Uh, to live like you were dying."
That's Tim McGrath who says that.
>> That is true.
>> Carrie McGrath says, "I've got a barbecue stain on my white t-shirt."
Damn.
>> That's also Tim McGrath.
>> Yep. How hard to explain or had to explain. Shout out the strokes. Who jacking up their hues to a bunch of co >> who up jacking their >> up jacking their hues to a bunch of co-workers I just met after Quinn's assist last night. As I have yelled that anytime Hughes does something cool since Pete's Olympic tweet.
>> Just randomly out of context with a bunch of people who have no idea. Who up Jack and their Hughes?
celebration to a sick hockey play.
>> Uh, and then Alex Delmo says, "Gearing up for Avalanche Hurricane Stanley Cup final, Natty disaster bowl. That'd be a fun cup finals." Snotin says, "Tuning tuning to Sa Bell talk. You love to see it." The David Carlson, my guy says, "DJ, can your boy get a quack quack?"
Happy birthday, Sean. Quack.
>> Happy birthday to you too, David Carlson. Birthday buddy.
>> Quack quack. David Carlson.
All right. Well, >> I I didn't uh I didn't want to let your uh your seal thing go underappreciated yesterday. I think you did another seal.
>> Oh, art. Art.
>> Yep.
>> Thank you.
>> So, I heard it played back and uh you didn't get the love it deserves. So, two for two on Animal Sound.
>> Sorry. I mean, we were yesterday was a big uh y'all mind if a mixed race podcast play a little jazz show? So, we were uh we definitely have to just keep calling it jazz. We riff on anything.
>> Uh-oh. Is that jazz eye here?
>> Big on that.
>> This weekend jazz with J with like any sort of jazz playing would be a very nice reel.
>> Uh John Stockton >> or Yep. Yeah. It's a mix.
>> We're not doing Carl Malone.
>> No. Carl Malone.
>> No.
>> Drop it.
>> George Carl >> be a mix of us. Uh Donovan Mitchell, >> what's happening right now?
>> Jazz.
>> Utah Jazz players.
>> Utah Jazz.
>> Donovan Mitchell is a uh >> famously was drafted by the Utah Jazz, wasn't he?
>> I don't know that who has been who's drafted by who in the NBA. Yeah, Donovan Mitchell was drafted by the Jazz.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Oh, yeah. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. I Well, I I I thought you were Yeah, cuz there's a lot of guys who get drafted by a team even though they've kind of been traded already type of thing. So, like their draft pick is in a hat that they never actually play for. So, I wasn't sure if that's what you're talking about, but I forgot. He just did fully start his career in Utah for a little while.
>> Andre Koleno.
>> Yep.
>> AK-47. Greatest nickname ever.
>> See, for the time, >> we're in Montreal.
>> AK-46.
>> That's not a gun. Andre gun.
>> They they I know, but they called uh Andre Castiton AK-46 because AK-47 was Carolinko's nickname and he was AK-46.
And I used to mock that on Twitter.
every player I talked about, I would do initial initial number and then there was a thing people actually do that and then no like within a year or something that actually became a thing to do.
>> Yeah.
>> And then I was so afraid of people think cuz I thought it was so cringy like just talked to uh DP88 and he said whatever like just write Poster Knock right freaks. All right. See you tonight in Yep.
>> You gotta pay the bills.
Oh yes, Sports Interaction, >> which I have pulled up already.
>> Oh, okay. Lovely. Let's pay the bills with Sports Interaction. Uh, brought to you by Sports Interaction, Sportsbook, and Casino. Every game is your game.
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>> Oh, a Benson birthday boy goal.
>> Yeah. Is that Benson birthday? He's 21.
M >> birthday buddy. Me uh me, David, and which is funny because he's in Canada, so we already could drink here. Uh but uh me, Zack Benson, and David Carlson sharing a birthday.
>> I don't know what the conversion is, but he's 4.4. 4.40.
>> Damn.
>> Anytime goal score, Zack Benson >> 4 point. Let's see. Odds converter. And by the way, if it's his 21st birthday, he also is famously Canadian. And this time of year, his birthday usually is not working, so he's probably back home.
I would venture to guess he's had beer before, but if he hasn't, that is absolutely fine. No judgment anywhere. I had a nice uh non-alcoholic rattler yesterday. It was uh quite tasty. Plus 340.
>> I Zack Benson and he was getting stuffed like crazy by Doz uh especially in like that third period. So >> he's due. He wants one. He's been around it. Okay.
>> Teams need a big knife from the big guys. And that includes the little Zack Benson is big.
>> I know. That includes the little guys, too.
>> But I like a team whose big guys are the little guys.
>> Yeah. Oh, yeah.
>> Shout out the Montreal Canadians. Every game is your game when you bet with Sports Interaction. From puck drop to overtime bet with live odds on every play with easy deposits and payouts. Go to sportsinaction.com/kos to open an account. Ontario only 19 plus. Please play responsibly. We will see you tonight.
>> Yummy loser point says Copitar U7 AK47 flex stick. uh 47 flex initial probably said AK. Yeah, >> that's really cool. Okay. Uh by the way, Sabres 0 and 14 when trailing uh 2 to1 in the series. I don't know if the the drops are within reach, but where are you on the worried scale?
>> I don't know which one's which. That's the only problem. But >> all I didn't get anything. You probably have it muted.
>> Do I?
>> Yeah, you probably have that uh the the effect track muted.
>> Oh. Uh okay.
>> Sean just played >> I'm worried.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. To answer your question, I'm worried. Um, but I don't really care about the history. I'm not worried because 0 and4 means we can't win. I'm just worried because the Havs are really good and last night or game one or game two and game three both kind of sucked.
>> You know who also wasn't worried about the history? The Minnesota Wild because they were like, "Our history starts now." And then they just started getting kind of whacked around by the Colorado Avalanche. So, >> new history ain't always the what you want it to be.
>> And that's from someone who reads fiction. That's a guy who knows history.
Okay. Uh, watch Party of Brasserie Capri tonight with Tomboy Max. Be there. We'll see you then. Bye-bye, Montreal.
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