The Curse of Oak Island LIVE PODCAST WEDNESDAY 4/29/26

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[00:00:03][music] [music] >> Hello cool masters.

[00:00:28]Tonight's podcast brought to you by Kellogg's Frosted Flakes. Crunch them if you got them. If you got teeth, crunch them. If you don't have teeth, oh well, have a soft banana.

[00:00:41]>> [laughter] >> And from Canada, this is only got one more show to go.

[00:00:50]Her name is Judy and she's from Canada.

[00:00:53]Hello Judy.

[00:00:55]Hello Johnny. Hi everybody. It's good to be here. John's in a mood tonight. We're going to have fun.

[00:01:02]And um we got some rants from last night's show. So I'm really looking forward to it. Thanks for coming in. And uh take part in chat, please. So we can know what you're Yupper.

[00:01:15]No, don't forget now. We got our contest. Let me put it in here. Hold on.

[00:01:22]>> [clears throat] >> We got #cert.

[00:01:26]This is the last night to win a certificate from Quest. Next week we take a drawing.

[00:01:34]I put all numbers behind your certificates.

[00:01:37]If that number shows up live, you win 50 Kalamazoos, wherever you live.

[00:01:48]However you want it. PayPal, coins, tissues, Putlago coins, whatever you want.

[00:01:59]So don't forget #cert. If you have a one, next week Wednesday night is the drawing. There's a number behind your certificate.

[00:02:10]I'll put say we we put 40 certificates out. I'll put all the numbers in the Quest hat. I'll pull it out live.

[00:02:18]And that number will be corresponding to your number, I hope. How's that sound, Judy?

[00:02:26]That sounds good, John. Sounds exciting.

[00:02:29]We all will be waiting um to see what you come up with. Yupper. 50 Putlago coins. Since they're missing a lot of coins, um I got 50 of them right here. So I might as well uh pass them out.

[00:02:43]>> Oh, they weren't They were $20,000 each. So there you go.

[00:02:47]>> They're all missing and they're all in the money pit.

[00:02:50]Yeah, right. They're all pristine condition like uh no wear, no tear, perfect condition 200 ft below dirt.

[00:03:04]If you believe that, it's my own personal opinion.

[00:03:08]It was a good storyline this year for production, Judy.

[00:03:15]Y- Yes, John. I agree 100%. I don't think they're going to find those coins down there, but who knows? They'll leave us hanging in anyway.

[00:03:23]>> Leave us hanging. The big hook.

[00:03:25]The big hook. Let's say our hellos.

[00:03:27]People are coming in now.

[00:03:30]Here we go. Er Gloria.

[00:03:34]Jeff M's in the house.

[00:03:36]Patricia.

[00:03:43]Howard Cox.

[00:03:44]Feline, she's here.

[00:03:50]Sue [snorts] is here.

[00:03:53]Cindy, thank you for all year long, even though I had a little break, that you make sure we're live to around the world. I thank you.

[00:04:03]And Judy thanks you. The Quest people thank you for your constant awareness over online and you can hear us.

[00:04:12]Get ready for season 14. I got a funny feeling in my funny bone.

[00:04:18]Another season 14. Digging holes, digging rocks.

[00:04:24]Here we go.

[00:04:27]Yeah, guys, we'll be around.

[00:04:30]There's Scott, the cruise master. The professor, Daniel Spinel.

[00:04:40]55 Doggy.

[00:04:42]Welcome.

[00:04:44]Playground in the house.

[00:04:48]Just don't forget everybody's uh #cert. Last day to get the certificate.

[00:04:57]Even if you don't get it in the mail say by uh next Wednesday night, Judy, I'll still have your number. I'll have your name with it. So if you don't get it in the mail, whatever you get tonight and you don't receive it at time, I still have your number and your name, Judy. You know what I mean?

[00:05:13]Oh, yeah. That sounds good, guys. So uh come be on flying with us so you uh can win something.

[00:05:21]Yupper.

[00:05:26]Want to thank my gang, all my moderators, Tammy, Judy, Daniel, Starling, Kathy, Tanya from Portugal, Jeff M, Gloria doing double duty, Dave B when he can get here on the YouTube side.

[00:05:40]I want to thank most of my main members that came over from the Quest Quest of Oak Island 14 years ago.

[00:05:46]We're live to YouTube right now and I'll repost it to Facebook for people that are not on YouTube.

[00:05:54]Other platforms we're touching on is Discord, Instagram.

[00:05:58]Also to our members on Spotify. We're doing good over there Judy app, Google, iHeart Radio, Pandora, Amazon.

[00:06:05]Hello Alexa.

[00:06:11]Yeah, John, I must say I'm very proud of what we've accomplished. Especially you.

[00:06:15]You've worked hard on this.

[00:06:19]We always support Daniel and Charlotte and the Compendium Returns.

[00:06:23]Give them a lot of love over there with their blog.

[00:06:27]There they are.

[00:06:29]We support Tony Sampson. We got the tours going now.

[00:06:33]You can be in a little cart. They they cart you around. You don't have to walk around. Be with Tony on the boat. He'll get you drunk at the Anchor Inn.

[00:06:41]And all sounds like a good thing.

[00:06:44]Well, sounds good to me. I'm ready to go.

[00:06:46]>> Yupper. There's a certificate. I put your name in there, the date of today's date as you've seen other winners do.

[00:06:54]Just showing you guys.

[00:06:56]There's Judy, our synopsis queen.

[00:07:00]And next week's show is called Pure Gold.

[00:07:08]The last show. I think it's just 9 to 10, Judy.

[00:07:13]Yes. I I As far as I know, John, it is.

[00:07:16]Um the next the following week, I see on my channel there is a drawing down at 9:00 the following week.

[00:07:24]>> Okay. All right.

[00:07:26]Want to thank my paying customers who help me on a monthly basis to pay for a somewhat of a couple of things.

[00:07:38]I thank you so much. Some of them have been with me uh 60 months. That's 5 years. Can you imagine that? Oh my god.

[00:07:44]Wow, John.

[00:07:46]We've been doing this for quite a while, haven't Yupper.

[00:07:48]I want to thank Michael and Robert and Tammy and Linda and Tony and Andrea and Tommy and Becky, Virginia, Starling, Jeff M, Sandollar Ray. Also, Judy, I want to thank you live. Also, I have a lot of thank yous for next week, the last uh episode. I thank you for coming on all year. Thank you, Judy.

[00:08:11]You're welcome, John. I loved every minute of it.

[00:08:14]>> Yupper. I want to thank Daniel Spinel for all his factual facts that I don't know why he's never on the Crystal Skull Island program, but it's because we tell it the way it is.

[00:08:27]I give uh my own opinions.

[00:08:30]You can go through facts, your own opinions, and you determine through yourself and what you've learned over the past 14 years.

[00:08:40]And make your own determination on what do you think that's going on there? You know what I mean, Judy?

[00:08:45]Right. Yeah, John, exactly. We like to know what everybody's thinking.

[00:08:50]Yupper. And we want to thank Raymond.

[00:08:53]I can finally fire him after next week.

[00:08:56]So I'll be saving some money there.

[00:09:00]Poor Raymond.

[00:09:01]>> He takes all our YouTube money.

[00:09:04]>> [laughter] >> Also, since last week we had a little uh situation that uh Charles Barkhouse had a little cancer going ons that he shared with the public.

[00:09:25]I wish him all the luck in the world.

[00:09:28]Stay strong.

[00:09:29]Go forward.

[00:09:31]And uh we're thinking about you.

[00:09:34]I asked him if you wanted to make a statement to the like 15,000 people that saw the the uh post, but I didn't get no response. But I know he's probably getting a lot of those throughout the uh Crystal Skull Island groups, Judy.

[00:09:53]Yeah, I'm pretty sure, John.

[00:09:55]Uh yeah, and uh, Charles, if listening, I'm thinking about you. Hello, Richard.

[00:10:01]Yep, hello, Richard.

[00:10:02]Yep, hang in there.

[00:10:04]They're watching us.

[00:10:07]Judy, you know that.

[00:10:09]Yes. Yes, I know they do.

[00:10:13]Uh, I got uh, yep.

[00:10:16]I got a new I'm reading what Daniel said.

[00:10:18]Raymond says, "Thanks, and he's going to the Maldives this summer." Okay. Okay. All right.

[00:10:26]Korean, he's got a new name.

[00:10:29]So, whenever you hear me say the Gooseman, I'm talking about Korean.

[00:10:38]Oh, okay.

[00:10:41]That's Korean, you are now called the Gooseman.

[00:10:45]Like, uh, everybody else, I like to give them little nicknames.

[00:10:54]And like Chris Donahoe was the Starman, Korean now earned the Curse of Oak Island's nickname, the Gooseman.

[00:11:05]I love you, brother.

[00:11:08]All right.

[00:11:11]I got a little rant here.

[00:11:13]Are you guys ready?

[00:11:15]We're ready.

[00:11:19]As we were watching the show last night, they found a pile of spoils from Dunfield that's 60 to 80 years old.

[00:11:40]I forgot when Dunfield did it, 1939, 1940? I don't even know. I can't remember. Did anybody remember when he did the, uh, deep dig, uh, Judy?

[00:11:50]I thought that was in the, in the 1960s.

[00:11:53]60s?

[00:11:54]Yes, I think so. All right. Am I right, Daniel?

[00:12:00]So, 66 years, somewhere in there.

[00:12:03]They got a pile of spoils sitting there.

[00:12:06]Yep, it's the 60s.

[00:12:08]All right, so 60s and 66, that's close enough.

[00:12:16]66 years, guys.

[00:12:20]This pile's been sitting there.

[00:12:23]Nobody touched it.

[00:12:26]We've been here for 14 years. You're telling me Kattia, or whatever her name is, Katia, or Kuchia, and, uh, Katia. Katia and her father, Gary, on their downtime or whatever time they're doing, could never go to the Dunfield spoils for 14 years.

[00:12:46]How is this possible?

[00:12:48]How in the Lord's name is this possible? Going towards the final show of the season, we're finally going to a Dunfield spoil pile because he did it real fast.

[00:13:02]He He filled up the hole real fast.

[00:13:05]And we got there last week or this summer. How is that possible, guys? The coordination of this island is a mess.

[00:13:15]We need new blood in there. We need new features in there.

[00:13:19]We need some coordination.

[00:13:22]I know they have like a film schedule.

[00:13:24]You know, you got to go here, you got to go there, you got to have a camera here, you got to have a GoPro on the, on the digger, you got to have a GoPro on your head.

[00:13:33]Well, for 66 years, this Dunfield pile's been sitting there.

[00:13:37]And as I looked at this Dunfield pile, I saw tractor marks on top of the pile.

[00:13:48]I work construction. I was a surveyor.

[00:13:51]I went to school for civil engineering.

[00:13:54]How in the Lord's name is there tractor marks on top of the pile, which I'll show you in the screenshots as we go through the screenshots, Judy, of 66 years of snow, rain, hurricanes, weather, and wind, how is there tracks on top of this pile?

[00:14:13]In the dirt.

[00:14:15]Are we being played?

[00:14:17]Are we being played?

[00:14:21]My own personal opinion, but if you own an island and you're after a treasure, don't you just go through these things?

[00:14:29]Don't you put that through, after you're through KSI number 155, won't you get them spoils? Billy, go get them spoils and put it through the gold treasure, called the gold, the gold dredger.

[00:14:44]Put it on the belt after you, uh, scan it, Gary, and just go through it. What is the problem with this show?

[00:14:53]I want to hear you out there.

[00:14:57]What you thinking out there, guys?

[00:15:05]And we'll go after it, you know, once I show the screenshot of it, Judy, you'll know what I'm talking about.

[00:15:10]Right, okay. Yeah, the wash plant.

[00:15:13]That's it, yeah.

[00:15:15]Yeah.

[00:15:18]Then, further TV Guide introduction promo for next week, episode 25, pure gold Tuesday, May 5th, 2026, the Oak Island team make an astonishing revelation on lot eight.

[00:15:43]And multiple, not one, multiple, not two, multiple treasured discoveries in the money pit area. Come on.

[00:15:56]You're making me cry. I'm crying before Rick's going to cry next week.

[00:16:04]I got tears, man. I got tears. This show's making me cry more and more. Maybe that's why Rick cries all the time. He knows in the back of his head that, I don't know, there's more coins underneath. How does he come up with these things? Well, there's more treasure. So, there was only 100 coins found. There might be, uh, 100,000 coins that we're looking for in the solution channel.

[00:16:30]Uh, I just don't get it, guys. My own personal opinion.

[00:16:35]I always comes up right at the end of the season, always.

[00:16:41]You know, Judy, it's just getting comical, you know what I mean?

[00:16:46]Right, it does. I find myself when they find something and make so much of it, anymore, I I have to admit, sometimes it's funny.

[00:16:57]So, we'll have to go through it another year.

[00:17:02]Well, like I told you guys, a lot of people say, "Well, Jim, why do you do this?"

[00:17:06]Well, if you did something for 13 years straight, say, "What was Korean doing 13 years ago? Was he involved with Oak Island?"

[00:17:12]No.

[00:17:15]We got skin in the game here, Judy. We have years of skin in the game here.

[00:17:20]I try to give a, I try to give, uh, my own the land, where we stay out in the ocean.

[00:18:07]Who's got that stuff, guys? Who's got that stuff? What podcast got that stuff?

[00:18:15]I'm sure we are the only ones, John.

[00:18:20]I don't know.

[00:18:22]What they say, "Why do you do it?" Well, like I said with Judy, this is we got skin in the game. We're in it till the end.

[00:18:28]I don't get excited ever since they showed me that gold doorknob, I don't know what year that was, if the gold doorknob out of that pile there in the swamp.

[00:18:37]Then I said, "Man, no gold doorknob."

[00:18:42]That flipped me right off.

[00:18:45]Hi, Daniel said, "I've got skin in the game, especially since I pulled out all of my hair over the last few years." And poor Daniel, right? I don't know if I even got Daniel in trouble by having this podcast. He should have been on the show at least 5 years ago.

[00:19:01]Just like they, who's Who's that guy that passed away?

[00:19:04]Uh, what's his name, Judy? The guy that just passed away. He's He was always on all the time.

[00:19:14]Oh, shoot, John. I'm sorry, I can't think.

[00:19:18]Uh, He was on the show? Yep, he was always on the show as a researcher, then when he passed away, they just put a picture of him. They didn't say his name or nothing. They just put a picture at the end of the show.

[00:19:31]I can picture him, but I can't I can't think of his name.

[00:19:35]Daniel, can you remember?

[00:19:37]Yeah, but I'm just saying, you know what I mean?

[00:19:40]He should He should have been on as much, if not more.

[00:19:44]The reason why?

[00:19:46]We talked the way it is.

[00:19:48]It doesn't fit the production.

[00:19:50]It doesn't fit anything.

[00:19:53]They list They listen to Rick.

[00:19:55]He puts them in a trance.

[00:19:57]Everybody follows him.

[00:20:01]And Can anybody say? Nope. In the In the money pit? Yep. Lots of coins. Let's go.

[00:20:08]Dig more holes. Let's go. Another season. We're looking for coins.

[00:20:16]Uh Daniel just said, "I presented but didn't make the cut. It happens a lot to researchers."

[00:20:23]>> And it didn't make the cut because you don't fit the production storyline.

[00:20:28]Right on. It doesn't I mean, it happens to a lot of researchers, but it's the researchers that are telling the the the factual truth that doesn't fit. Oh, I know where the uh ark of the covenant that's in the swamp over there. Well, let's get that guy on.

[00:20:46]Well, there's a 500-lb bar of gold. They melted everything together.

[00:20:51]Uh that's in the uh uh garden shaft. Yep. Let's get that guy on. Anybody says anything kind of negatory to negatory, is that a Is that a >> [laughter] >> But uh I don't know. So, I hope I didn't curse you or uh Daniel, we love you over here.

[00:21:14]And we got to get you on maybe next year.

[00:21:17]I'd like to see if you could come on with me.

[00:21:20]Just uh present your synopsis. Not the whole thing. Just your summary or whatever. And then you can log off. Well, how long is that going to take you? 5 minutes? Cuz people want to know who you are. People want to see you.

[00:21:34]We've got over 205,000 subscribers on YouTube. I don't know how many thousands on Spotify and thousands on Facebook.

[00:21:43]If you could, maybe once a month, uh just come on with me and just do it.

[00:21:51]Maybe we could actually [laughter] do one this this summer, John.

[00:21:56]With Daniel. The zombie Templars.

[00:21:59]I see that. My next pitch will include zombie Templars. Templars.

[00:22:04]Well, that will at least be interesting.

[00:22:06]>> Unbelievable.

[00:22:10]Well, Judy, get your wine ready.

[00:22:12]Your next-to-last synopsis.

[00:22:16]>> [laughter] >> And uh to the thousands and thousands of people listening to you, I want to thank everybody for listening to Judy cuz I might forget next week cuz I might be just out of my mind next week when they go out of money pit one case on. I might make no sense at all ranting about the last show.

[00:22:35]And uh so, I want to make sure everybody knows Judy's a hard worker.

[00:22:39]We're all getting on the older side. Uh it gets tiring.

[00:22:45]And uh we do the best we can what what we have.

[00:22:49]So, and again, I told production, get things going.

[00:22:54]Find something or don't find something before we are all passed away.

[00:23:02]That sounds like a darn good plan, John.

[00:23:04]I'd like to know what isn't there.

[00:23:08]I love zombie Templars.

[00:23:10]Yeah, I do, too. That sounds interesting. I like this guy Daniel that's been on because I got Templars and everything. It's not It's like Scott Wolbers' other friend or something. He's doing a lot of things with Templars.

[00:23:25]Very interesting. I forgot the guy's name. My names, I can't remember no names.

[00:23:30]>> [laughter] >> So, Judy, Yeah. when you're ready, your picture's up for the world to see.

[00:23:38]And all 23 pit built in our live stream, go ahead.

[00:23:43]Okay, thank you. And we are season 13, episode 24, overseeing the dig. Episode 24 opens on a new fall day in the money pit area where the drill teams, Roc and SP Canada, are repairing the unstable ground in order to begin the drilling of new hole MP1.

[00:24:12]In the meantime, 2,000 mi to the southeast on the island of Terceira in the Azores off the coast of Portugal, Rick's team, team's guide, Francisco, has taken them to the church of Our Lady of Conception, built by the Order of Christ in the 15th century.

[00:24:37]Corrine points out several spots in the church where the Templar symbol, the goose paw, has been carved.

[00:24:46]The symbol looks like an arrow pointing upward. The team has found this symbol all over Europe, and they also discovered one 50 mi east of Oak Island near the town of Liverpool, Nova Scotia.

[00:25:04]They believe it to be a sacred symbol of the Templars.

[00:25:08]Rick wonders if the Templar treasure was hidden here, then moved to Oak Island.

[00:25:16]Peter points out an elongated cross, a slight Nolan's cross, on Oak Island.

[00:25:23]The team then moves on to a new location.

[00:25:27]Back on Oak Island on lot 18, Katia and Marty are detecting the spoils from the Dunfield dig in the 1960s.

[00:25:40]These spoils have never been gone through.

[00:25:44]The beeper goes off, and Marty digs up what looks like a French cap badge like the one Gary found on lot 21 in 2018.

[00:25:56]To the lab it goes.

[00:25:59]Later, over on lot five, Marty, using the excavator, is digging a trench on either side of the well found a few weeks ago.

[00:26:10]The team believes this to be a 20th century well, but the deeper they go, the less it looks like a well.

[00:26:19]It is just a few yards from the round structure.

[00:26:23]Fiona has found what looks like a wall down in the opening that is similar to the walls in the round structure.

[00:26:33]They wonder if treasure was buried here.

[00:26:36]The archaeologists get back to digging as Marty leaves. The trenches will now allow them to open up the site more.

[00:26:47]Over on the island of Terceira in the Azores, Rick and his team have been taken to a place called the Grota do Natal by their guide, Francisco.

[00:27:00]And he introduces them to Professor Felix Rodrigues, who then walks them uphill into a large wooded area full of rock walls.

[00:27:13]Rick sees a structure very much like the feature under the boulder on lot eight.

[00:27:20]Felix tells them there are many similar features in this area.

[00:27:25]He points out that the cuts here that look like small rectangular holes at the bottom of the feature line up with the sunset and the sunrise.

[00:27:38]Do the openings under the boulder on lot eight also line up with the sunset and sunrise?

[00:27:46]Felix takes the team to a basin that was hand-carved by people who settled here, and Felix believes the basin to be ceremonial.

[00:27:58]They found wood in the bottom of the basin, and the C-14 testing on it showed it to be from the 1100s.

[00:28:09]It declares the well on lot 26 of Oak Island near the Portuguese wall dated to 1028 to 1172.

[00:28:20]Could this mean that the Azores were used during the Templar area?

[00:28:26]The following morning, back on Oak Island on lot five, Marty has returned to see the progress of the dig on the well-like structure.

[00:28:37]Fiona has found a wall similar to the one in the original feature.

[00:28:43]She says, "This is just a smaller version of the other round feature."

[00:28:49]Marty thinks this is a strange place to have put this structure as it is so close to the ocean.

[00:28:57]Fiona wonders if treasure was hidden here before going into the money pit.

[00:29:03]The dig continues.

[00:29:05]Back in the Azores, Rick and his team are meeting with coin collector Alberto Silva.

[00:29:12]Doug hands Alberto the pit blood of coin, and Alberto seems shocked when he looked at it.

[00:29:20]He tells them these coins were minted in Lisbon, Spain in 1369 to 1371 by King Ferdinand I, the first, and there were thousands of them made.

[00:29:35]However, he knows of only 100 of them today.

[00:29:41]Alex points out if the rest were never circulated, then where are they? Rick answers, could they be on Oak Island in the money pit?

[00:29:53]He then says, let's get back to Oak Island and get the new case on down to find out.

[00:30:00]Later, back on Oak Island in the war room, Rick's team updates the rest of the team on what they discovered in the Azores and Marty updates Rick's team on the work they got done here on the island.

[00:30:17]Rick tells them about the thousands of coins like the Pit L'Atl coin that were minted in the 1300s and only 100 of them are in circulation.

[00:30:31]He then asks, where do you think the rest are?

[00:30:35]The whole of the fellowship answers, in the money pit.

[00:30:40]Marty declares, then let's get digging and find them.

[00:30:45]Episode 24 ends in the money pit where Rick arrives just as they are breaking ground for the digging of new hole MP1 and the MP stands for money pit.

[00:30:59]MP1 is 10 ft from holes K1 and the TPF holes.

[00:31:06]Marty states this is our last hole for the year and this could be where the treasure fell into the solution channel.

[00:31:16]As the first load of spoils hits the ground, Gary starts to metal detect just as the show ends.

[00:31:24]Join us next week Questers for the season 13 final.

[00:31:29]Will they find a treasure of Pit L'Atl coins? Till then, stay safe everyone, please.

[00:31:38]Very good, Judy from Canada.

[00:31:41]Thank you, thank you, Johnny.

[00:31:44]Hello, Diane Uttel, prominent.

[00:31:57]Her synopsis queen very, very good as usual.

[00:32:04]Will be printed >> Oh, thank you, Johnny. Will be printed [laughter] Thank you, Johnny. Yep, it will be printed out on our Facebook page as usual.

[00:32:11]And um 14 years we'll be doing this. Oh my lordy, forty. Holy moly, on. 14 years.

[00:32:21]Oh, John, it's a long time. I've been with it for that long, but I've been doing the synopsis for I think seven now. Oh, that's all? You're just a rookie.

[00:32:30]Yeah.

[00:32:31]>> [laughter] >> Yeah, I found you a little a little later.

[00:32:38]And thank goodness I did. Look where it got me.

[00:32:41]Mhm.

[00:32:45]Mhm.

[00:32:49]Stu Wilson Oh, Daniel says, John, I believe you were talking about Tim Hogan. No.

[00:33:01]No.

[00:33:02]You had that big coin you found on on the uh on the uh island, the Templar uh I don't the Templar house with the Templar cross up the road a piece from Oak Island.

[00:33:19]They had the coin.

[00:33:23]I can't remember his name.

[00:33:25]I can't either. I can picture him clear as can be, but it's on our Facebook page anyway.

[00:33:35]Thank you, everybody.

[00:33:38]I hope always that it helps you to hear that synopsis. Yep. And oh, Tim Hogan is the the uh Templar researcher. That's his name. Yeah, I thought you thought about the the guy that passed away.

[00:33:50]Uh the researcher on Oak Island, but Tim Hogan, I like what he says.

[00:33:55]You know, I like his deal.

[00:33:57]Yes.

[00:34:00]I like his deal.

[00:34:08]All right.

[00:34:10]Here we be.

[00:34:12]Starting out.

[00:34:14]As you see, the leaves are turning towards the end of the season, guys.

[00:34:20]There it is, John. James McQuiston >> Oh my lordy, forty. Holy moly, on. James McQuiston is the name. Bingo, bingo.

[00:34:30]Holy man. Wow, wow, wow. That's it, Daniel.

[00:34:34]Thank you, Daniel.

[00:34:36]Yep, they just put a picture up.

[00:34:39]They didn't say anything about him or anything. They just at the end of the show in remembrance of James McQuiston.

[00:34:44]And all the times he did all that research. I don't know how many times he was there. They could at least said something, you know what I mean?

[00:34:51]Yeah, I I agree. They could have.

[00:34:55]That's the guy, Daniel. That's him.

[00:35:08]And here's where they're trying to level up the uh position for money pit number one caisson so it doesn't cave in.

[00:35:17]So they showed us some pictures in the beginning of them stabilizing.

[00:35:23]And Gary comes up with these things, they do the grinding and we do the finding. Yeah, okay.

[00:35:35]Okay, Daniel, spill the beans after.

[00:35:39]Yes. We got to have Daniel on.

[00:35:56]Where there's unnaturally high traces of silver Oh god, has been detected some 200 ft underground.

[00:36:06]As the work proceeds, off we go to our yearly travel, which I like this is the best part of the whole season for me cuz the rest is all filling for me. They don't find nothing. Surface finds.

[00:36:19]And history.

[00:36:21]This is what I like.

[00:36:27]The Azores Our Lady of Conception And here's the local historian Francisco.

[00:36:53]There's the gang.

[00:36:58]They arrive at a 15th century church known as the Order of Christ.

[00:37:10]Gooseman he said they were founded around 1474.

[00:37:18]And there he is, Emiliano.

[00:37:25]There's the gooseman.

[00:37:28]Corian wall He's full of baloney.

[00:37:38]>> [laughter] >> He must be talking about Tim Hogan.

[00:37:41]And he says, I'll just say he's a self-proclaimed grandmaster of the Knights Templar and full of baloney. Oh, I know who you mean now, Daniel. I just watched him for a while last night.

[00:37:53]He's supposedly the headmaster of the of all the Templars from around the world. That's who he is.

[00:38:02]Oh my lordy, forty. Look all the weirdos.

[00:38:08]Why am I attracted to the weirdos?

[00:38:11]I don't know.

[00:38:13]You know why? Because my brain is mush.

[00:38:15]That's why.

[00:38:21]>> [laughter] >> Uh I know mine's getting there anyway. Now, here we are, hand cannon shooting balls protecting the silver Pit L'Atl coins 200 ft deep.

[00:38:38]Mhm.

[00:38:42]A lot of leaves to rake there. Who wants to rake them leaves?

[00:38:51]Yeah, I don't think I want to do it.

[00:38:54]Of course, she's stone road.

[00:38:57]Of course, she's road.

[00:39:08]There's the church.

[00:39:10]Beautiful church.

[00:39:19]And there's the goose paw, which Daniel, I have his commentary through Raymond that we'll listen in a little while with Daniel's commentary.

[00:39:40]Daniel, don't be afraid.

[00:39:42]I don't bite. It's the other uh thousands of people around the world.

[00:39:51]And back to Oak Island.

[00:39:55]The goose paw found near Oak Island.

[00:39:57]Remember that, right, Judy?

[00:39:59]I do very clearly, yes.

[00:40:04]Yeah, you said that's the seal of the Jesuits.

[00:40:10]Imagine chiseling all that out all the time, all over the place. Okay.

[00:40:18]Here's the Zen master right here, putting everybody in a Zen.

[00:40:23]Follow me.

[00:40:26]Treasure on Oak Island money pit.

[00:40:29]Yes, Rick. Yes. Yes, I follow you. Yes, Rick.

[00:40:35]We follow you.

[00:40:38]>> [clears throat] >> A couple symbols that they have found that relate to the H O stone.

[00:40:54]All right. We move to the next location.

[00:40:56]Let's go, production. Let's go.

[00:41:03]Back on Oak Island.

[00:41:08]You imagine this dump.

[00:41:11]The spoils is right behind right there.

[00:41:25]Here we go.

[00:41:26]Not touched in 66 [clears throat] years. Not 6 months, not 6 weeks, not 6 days.

[00:41:38]66 years. I flipped out, guys. I'm sorry, but I flipped out on this.

[00:41:45]Yeah, I couldn't believe it when they said they had never looked at it at all.

[00:41:51]Look at the tracks on that dirt pile.

[00:41:58]Yes.

[00:42:00]Can see them.

[00:42:05]Was this load just put there?

[00:42:09]Does it look like it's been there for 66 years, guys? What do you guys think?

[00:42:13]Back me up here. My own personal opinion.

[00:42:17]Something there for 66 years should be worn down from rain, wind, erosion.

[00:42:28]Yeah, that certainly isn't, is it? It almost looks somewhat loose.

[00:42:33]Hello, Jonathan LaFontaine. Thanks for coming in.

[00:42:37]This is when they said, "Oh, it was in '65."

[00:42:41]So, that's 66 years, right?

[00:42:46]Oh, good one, Jonathan. He says a couple of those spots in the Azores looked like they practiced burying the treasure [clears throat] before they came over. Test runs.

[00:43:01]And there's the tracks you can see even better.

[00:43:04]They look little stairs only one side, but doesn't look like it's 66 years old, guys.

[00:43:12]My own personal opinion. You go with your opinion.

[00:43:20]And you would think if they found that little piece that they pick this pile up put it in the gold dredge and run it through when they're done with the caissons, you know?

[00:43:33]Right, would make sense, wouldn't it?

[00:43:47]And there's the piece.

[00:43:51]Yeah, Richard said it looks like a scoop was taken out of the top sometime in the past. Yeah, it does.

[00:43:59]I mean, they don't tell us everything, Judy, so I'm just saying when they say something, say, "Yeah, we took a scoop out just to test it."

[00:44:05]But there was nothing in it, so we never went back. But they don't say that, you know what I mean?

[00:44:09]Right, exactly.

[00:44:12]Yeah, feeling says the track looks pretty fresh. It does to me, too. But you got the gold dredge. Just run it through.

[00:44:21]That's what you got it for.

[00:44:22]>> Right.

[00:44:24]Yep.

[00:44:25]But that's for season 14.

[00:44:32]Got to save some >> to save something, John. John.

[00:44:35]>> [laughter] >> We thought of the same thing. We got to save something. Production's going to listen.

[00:44:41]Our bank accounts haven't hit a trillion dollars yet. Our advertising budget is over a billion dollars. So, we got to leave something for season 14 cuz we got to keep our bank accounts nice and fresh.

[00:44:52]Right on.

[00:44:53]Like in something like the series, follow the money.

[00:44:56]Whoever's keeping the show going, follow the money.

[00:44:58]You'll know who it is.

[00:45:00]Follow the money.

[00:45:02]Yeah.

[00:45:03]You got it.

[00:45:05]Here we are back at the money pit.

[00:45:14]Who knows what they're doing, Patricia?

[00:45:15]They're driving me nuts.

[00:45:19]And here's Marty with the backhoe.

[00:45:21]Digging near the new 20th century well.

[00:45:23]That's not a well.

[00:45:25]Fiona says there's walls in there, and here we go. We're going to find diamonds. We're going to find pearls.

[00:45:31]Uh we're going to find gold.

[00:45:36]Oh my lordy 40.

[00:45:44]Could be, Jonathan, the way for permits.

[00:45:46]Could be more permits.

[00:45:48]But you do that all now in the in the in the off-season.

[00:45:53]You know what I mean? You get your permits in the in the winter when you're stopped. And they stopped long time ago, you know, Judy?

[00:45:59]Right, exactly. And if anything, if I think I'm right that if it's in the money pit area, they don't need a permit there anymore, do they? Correct. Laird says it's so screwed up there, it's not even architectural architectural um no permits needed archaeologist permit, whatever they call them.

[00:46:23]>> [laughter] >> And you got that right.

[00:46:32]Yeah, Richard says they shouldn't need a permit to work up soil.

[00:46:36]Just in the money pit.

[00:46:38]Looking at a lot of rocks. You know, forget. We haven't been seeing any kind of wood lately, and not a lot of ox shoes.

[00:46:44]But I'm getting sick of seeing rocks, to tell you the truth, guys.

[00:46:48]I I you want to go back to uh to wood and uh ox shoes, John? Yeah.

[00:47:00]Perhaps not a well at all.

[00:47:08]Back to the island of the Santa in the Azores.

[00:47:13]All these stone walls, it's all divided in these uh these property lines. You think they practice to do treasure here?

[00:47:22]They say, "Well, they could have hid here."

[00:47:24]But to me, it's property lines, uh Judy, but I could be wrong.

[00:47:28]Yep, that's and that's possible, John.

[00:47:37]I like when Doug says, "Well, I got things to do in the city. I'm not walking around all this in these woods and these hills. I'm going back into the city and get a get a pizza and a bucket of beer."

[00:47:48]>> [laughter] >> Be a lot more fun, I would think.

[00:47:54]Oh, and uh Richard wants He says a question about the flags in the drone footage. Are they metal detecting in the preseason?

[00:48:06]So, you saw flags, Richard, did you on the uh our drone footage?

[00:48:12]A lot of them if they're not a big hard hit they won't film it, you know what I mean? It's not filmed, Judy.

[00:48:19]>> Right.

[00:48:20]But he does go out and put flags on certain lots that production's pumping up that there could be any relic on the island, you know what I mean, guys? Hint hint hint hint.

[00:48:34]Yeah, right, exactly.

[00:48:37]They do this every year if you know the protocols at the end of the year.

[00:48:50]Oh, yeah, Daniel says Doug was like, "Screw this. I'm going to the AC in the library." Where you go.

[00:48:57]And he he's he's got this down, Doug.

[00:49:00]Yes.

[00:49:04]So, I'm not walking in these woods and hills and dales. Get the hell out of here.

[00:49:13]Now, this thing here, guys, this is not the same thing.

[00:49:18]At the Azores, it seems like it was carved out. Those square carved out like almost to put a plank in there and stuff.

[00:49:25]The one on Oak Island was just you know, like round rocks randomly in a space.

[00:49:31]I don't see any difference.

[00:49:34]Not less there was like rocks, round rocks like Azor's. They're not these square rectangular like cutouts that they cut out for some unknown reason. You know, Judy, help me out here.

[00:49:47]Yeah, I to me, I didn't understand why they thought it was the same thing. I really didn't. Yeah, on the island all it is is rocks and a space and rock and a space.

[00:49:57]>> Yeah.

[00:49:58]Where on uh the Azor's, it's a a rectangular square cut out of the rock, a space and another square or rectangular. But in Rick's mind, again, the master. Yes, Rick.

[00:50:16]Yes, Rick. Yes, Rick.

[00:50:19]He sees compatible.

[00:50:22]I don't see it.

[00:50:22]>> Yeah.

[00:50:23]But that's only me saying.

[00:50:27]You know, he sees pearls and gold and everything else under the rock. I saw like a a a spike and a crushed crushed can underneath the rock.

[00:50:38]But that's only me because my mind is gone.

[00:50:42]So, I don't know what they see.

[00:50:44]Maybe they should have drug testing before they film. I don't know.

[00:50:49]And Daniel says this was about a bizarre comparison, two completely different things. I agree. Yes. I don't know.

[00:51:00]Oh, man. So, I'm not the only one. Okay, thank you guys.

[00:51:05]And hello Hobbies Hobo. Hi, Hobby.

[00:51:08]>> Welcome.

[00:51:12]They both had moss.

[00:51:14]>> [laughter] >> That's true. They're good.

[00:51:19]They're both stones. Okay, Rick, I'll give you that much. They're both stones.

[00:51:25]Yeah, like Scott Longberry says, they don't even look close. Yeah. And I I agree.

[00:51:33]And the age of them.

[00:51:37]You know.

[00:51:38]2000 BC or whatever, I don't know.

[00:51:42]This wild thing do nothing for me. This whatever this thing's supposed to be.

[00:51:46]And they compared this to lot 26.

[00:51:52]I don't see it.

[00:51:54]I don't know. I just don't see this stuff for comparison, guys.

[00:52:00]No, I don't either.

[00:52:03]Do you guys think this is the same as the uh lot 26?

[00:52:12]Was it spring water, spring fed this thing for them to drink?

[00:52:16]Right. Yes. I don't get it. Right, Daniel saying well, yeah.

[00:52:22]Yeah.

[00:52:24]Yeah, right. Yes, yeah, well. Um yeah, this is the the basin that we're Yeah.

[00:52:30]where we're talking about. Yes.

[00:52:35]Thousand years ago the organics.

[00:52:39]I don't know.

[00:52:41]I don't know if they're reaching for straws production and editors.

[00:52:50]It just doesn't come to my mind. Oh, yeah, that looks the same. And that ain't one of those things. I didn't say that. I thought this was completely different, Judy.

[00:52:58]Yes, I did, too.

[00:53:00]Uh I didn't get it at all.

[00:53:14]Where's the master?

[00:53:19]Um Daniel says both of them are both wells, but Sandball was not performing any ceremonies there unless he was blessing cabbages. Ah, yes. Mhm.

[00:53:34]Yeah.

[00:53:37]Fiona, she's getting a lot of speaking engagements.

[00:53:44]She's doing a lot of talking.

[00:53:47]Getting away from Gary's quips.

[00:53:51]Yes.

[00:53:52]You notice that that Fiona is more vocal.

[00:53:58]Yes. She is. Like she really has come out of herself and I I do I think she does a great job. I I just don't know how much of it is is real. Right.

[00:54:09]Here it is.

[00:54:11]Another hole.

[00:54:12]More rocks.

[00:54:17]Yep, Jeff.

[00:54:25]And there she is.

[00:54:30]She's in our group, Judy.

[00:54:33]Oh, is she? Yeah.

[00:54:36]She wore the Quest hat and she's going to put on a shirt.

[00:54:41]That's right. That's right. I remember that now. Yeah.

[00:54:49]So, I don't know what this thing's supposed to be. A mini a mini round figure.

[00:54:55]I don't know.

[00:54:55]>> Yes.

[00:55:02]Yeah, Daniel says that this girl does not talk like your typical archaeologist and I agree Daniel on that.

[00:55:09]>> Well, she was the show's producer.

[00:55:12]Okay. And they hired her for an an assistant alert.

[00:55:18]Alex Yep, Alex has been very technical when he speaks, also around the war room and everything.

[00:55:25]Yes, he sure does. Hello, Carlo Guido.

[00:55:35]Maybe they're grooming Alex, guys, so the older ones can retire and Alex can take over. Yeah.

[00:55:45]And this is when they were showing this guy the coin when he told them there was an L up there and there was only a hundred in circulation.

[00:56:05]Uh then we go back to the money pit.

[00:56:08]Getting ready for money pit one.

[00:56:11]Yeah. Okay.

[00:56:13]10-4.

[00:56:15]Lordy, forty, holy moly on. Find something.

[00:56:28]That there's treasure still remains in the depths of the money pit with the 5,000 holes in it, Judy.

[00:56:34]I know, John. We just We just haven't found it yet.

[00:56:40]Yeah, that's a good one. We're aware of that before.

[00:56:45]But there's high traces of silver.

[00:56:52]Uh Hobby says, I wish them luck next year. I'll be watching something else.

[00:56:57]And if there is breaking news, I'll wait until it hits the mainstream news.

[00:57:02]I hear you, Hobby.

[00:57:08]And she's very good, Playground Justice.

[00:57:10]Very, very good. Very technical.

[00:57:14]And they're just going over what they found.

[00:57:17]Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah.

[00:57:19]With this coin that's pristine.

[00:57:22]Don't forget hashtag cert last night to win certificates with a number behind it. Next week we'll draw on Wednesday for 50 pit level coins.

[00:57:39]Uh Uh Uh John Daniel says, I've missed Holy Moly on and Professor uh Goobly [ __ ] Goobly [ __ ] He's He's in the He's in the stars someplace.

[00:57:55]Holy Moly on and Professor Goobly [ __ ] They'll be back with more star sightings on the next cross Nolan's cross discussion.

[00:58:12]I have no doubt.

[00:58:14]There's some pictures of the basins that look the same, I guess. I don't know.

[00:58:20]I don't know.

[00:58:22]I just give you the information. You guys decide.

[00:58:29]Then Jack says, "Oh, no way." There's Jack. No way, Jack.

[00:58:37]It's good to see him there and he's looking really really well now. So, that's that's good to know. Mhm.

[00:58:46]The center road was the sand road before the center road before the survey of sand road at the center road that goes towards and over the swamp to the money pit with the oxen carrying gold and treasures.

[00:59:02]Okay.

[00:59:08]>> [laughter] >> The steaks lining up like manicotti. You know what I was going to say, Daniel?

[00:59:15]You know, sometimes I make BLT sandwiches and I was going to make the BLT's a triple decker and I put four toothpicks in before I cut them.

[00:59:24]So, it it looks just like a freaking bacon, lettuce, and tomato toothpick sandwich.

[00:59:29]>> [laughter] >> Oh God, this show is killing me.

[00:59:38]>> [laughter] >> And there it is.

[00:59:40]The last shaft of the season.

[00:59:44]With the other shafts we came up empty.

[00:59:49]And it's got to be in here, Judy. It's got to be in MP1.

[00:59:53]It's got to be in there. Got to be there.

[00:59:56]Oh, that you will go through next week's show and we won't see anything.

[01:00:03]Hello, Robert.

[01:00:07]All right, let's uh go to Daniel's summary.

[01:00:13]Make sure you guys can see it.

[01:00:17]Make sure you guys can see it and hear it. Let me know in the comments.

[01:00:21]Are you ready, Judy?

[01:00:23]I'm ready. All right, here we go.

[01:00:27]During this week's episode, the Oak Island team visited the Church of Our Lady of Conception on Terceira Island in the Azores.

[01:00:34]Inside the church was a carving that the team recognized as looking like a goose paw symbol, which is connected to the Knights Templar.

[01:00:42]The history behind this carving in the church is very interesting. The symbol itself is called a Christogram, which is a representation of Jesus Christ.

[01:00:50]The letters IHS are the focal point of the symbol.

[01:00:54]These letters stand for the first three Greek letters Iesous of Jesus' name.

[01:01:00]Iota I, eta E, and sigma S.

[01:01:03]The center of the symbol exhibits the letter H with the cross above it.

[01:01:07]It is often associated with the Latin phrase in hoc signo vinces, in this sign you shall conquer by Constantine.

[01:01:14]It should be noted that sometimes the variant IHC was also used as it originated from the Byzantines because their sigma looked more like a C.

[01:01:23]This is how it is believed the saying Jesus H. Christ developed.

[01:01:26]Early Christians used these letters as a symbol for Jesus Christ from 200 AD and it continued through time.

[01:01:33]It began being seen on coins in the late 600s AD.

[01:01:37]By the 1100s it became more common and by the 1300s it started appearing in English documents.

[01:01:43]In the 1400s St. Bernardino of Siena began using the symbol with the blazing sun motif in the background.

[01:01:49]In 1541, St. Ignatius of Loyola adopted the symbol as the 1541 St. Ignatius of Loyola adopted the monogram as the official emblem of the Society of Jesus, the Jesuits.

[01:02:01]It was at that point a cross and three nails at the bottom which symbolized the crucifixion began being used.

[01:02:07]This started a worldwide use of this symbol in art and architecture.

[01:02:12]As the Jesuits did not arrive in the Azores until the late 1500s, it would seem that this carving in the church did not originate until after that point.

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[01:02:47]Good day from Daniel of the compendium.

[01:02:50]The Oak Island compendium C 2026.

[01:02:54]Thank you so much, uh Daniel.

[01:03:02]Okay, guys. Hashtag cert last call.

[01:03:10]Hashtag cert.

[01:03:13]So far, we only have two entries.

[01:03:19]And that's an automatic win in my book.

[01:03:24]Yes.

[01:03:26]Howard cert.

[01:03:30]Hashtag cert says two entries. You only can put it in once. You put it in more than once, I'll just take it once. It's a very, very good, Daniel.

[01:03:39]All right, let me see if I can transfer over there now. Here we go.

[01:03:45]Here's where it gets scary.

[01:03:54]We got two entries.

[01:03:56]You'll both be winners.

[01:03:59]Here we go.

[01:04:01]Here's the first one.

[01:04:13]Howard Cox is a winner. Send your information to the quest of Oak Island at aol.com address. Nice and legible.

[01:04:23]Zip code. If you're out of state, out of state, out of country, I need your phone number.

[01:04:36]Ready?

[01:04:38]Now what happens? Who was the other one that put in for?

[01:04:55]Congratulations, Howard.

[01:04:57]And Ken Larson.

[01:05:02]And playground justice, did you put in?

[01:05:08]Sometimes it won't let me uh do it if there's only one entry. So we got Ken Howard.

[01:05:15]Wait a minute.

[01:05:16]Ken Larson.

[01:05:24]Hello, Vicky.

[01:05:29]And playground justice.

[01:05:34]Okay, playground, you got it automatic.

[01:05:38]So send me your information, all three winners.

[01:05:42]We'll send you out a certificate tomorrow.

[01:05:48]the quest of Oak Island at aol.com and I'll get it out as soon as possible.

[01:05:55]See, if there's only one entry, it won't let me just punch it out, you know what I mean?

[01:05:59]Right. Yeah, that's too bad it won't do that, John.

[01:06:03]Mhm.

[01:06:04]Anyway, congratulations, everybody, and we'd love to have a picture if you'd like to send one. Yep.

[01:06:13]All right, Judy.

[01:06:14]If you want to say your your goodbyes for today. We've been on for an hour and 10 minutes. I thought it was a good podcast and then we'll say my goodbyes and we'll see them all next Wednesday for the last podcast of season 13.

[01:06:28]Right on. Uh thanks for coming in, everybody. Uh you're the ones that really make this work. Uh thank you for taking part in this chat so we can know what you're thinking.

[01:06:39]And uh enjoy Oak Island next Tuesday night if you can get it. If not, my synopsis along with Daniel's will be available.

[01:06:47]And um we'll be here on Wednesday night at 7:30 and I will look forward to it.

[01:06:54]So have a good week, everybody, and wherever you are in this world, please stay safe. Please. Good night, Johnny.

[01:07:02]All right, I'll keep in touch, Judy.

[01:07:05]Okay. Bye-bye. All right, guys. Great podcast. We got one more week to go.

[01:07:11]Anything of importance that comes up in between, hit that notification bell, we'll know what's going on.

[01:07:18]But uh get ready for next Tuesday night at 9:00 p.m. Eastern time, the last final show of season 13. And what do I always tell you guys? You guys got to say this with me.

[01:07:31]Remember, members, always go forward.

[01:07:36]You may get a setback in your life, but just believe in yourself.

[01:07:42]Believe in your dreams, no matter how old you are, for tomorrow is a never given.

[01:07:46]With this crazy world we live in, oh my God, the world needs a ton of prayers, more than prayers. We need miracles with this world we live in. So you keep smiling, you stay safe like Judy says.

[01:08:01]You stay strong, you stay positive. Keep that positivity going. Anything of negativity, get it out. So many getting you down in neg- negativity, get it out.

[01:08:11]And if you can't do it, there's a lot of professional people out there that can help you get that positivity back.

[01:08:18]Want to thank you for joining me and Judy tonight, this Wednesday night.

[01:08:22]We'll see you next Wednesday night 7:30 p.m. Eastern time for our last live podcast of season 13.

[01:08:29]So I hope you enjoyed the show. Thank you. Take care and uh bye-bye.

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