Model Trains LIVE! (episode 2, part 3 of 3)

Added: 2026-05-27

[00:00:03]Okay. So, we'll wait a few minutes for everybody to migrate over.

[00:00:14]But, uh, yeah. So, the capture, it's just like an $8 capture card I bought off of Amazon, and it seems to work fine except that every however long it just stops working. But I think that might be the USB adapter. So next time I'm going to try plugging it. I'm I'm going to try to orient the computer so that I can plug it in directly.

[00:00:41]Um my gosh, everyone stop what you're doing right now. Someone called Trainer decided to start going live. Stop whatever you're doing.

[00:00:56]We're getting some stream set up.

[00:00:58]There's all of our horses >> so I can plug it.

[00:01:06]>> Hello folks. We are back again.

[00:01:08]Hopefully third time will be the charm.

[00:01:11]Um I'm going to put the passenger cars away and get the freight contest again.

[00:01:19]>> Yeah, OBS crashed and that was the main reason. Yes, OBS has now crashed twice this stream.

[00:01:30]>> I wish I knew why.

[00:01:34]>> Well, I do have contacts with one particular person on uh on a railroad discord stream. I can probably ask and see maybe well he has expertise in something called Streamlabs. Maybe it can help.

[00:01:55]Hello, Colin. Uh, yeah, it has been a while. I hope you're doing well. Um, yeah, the Facebook group is not really active anymore. It is technically still around, but nobody really posts there.

[00:02:07]I've basically gotten off of Facebook almost entirely. Um, I'm trying to cons to like consolidate all of my social media use down to just this YouTube channel.

[00:02:20]Yeah.

[00:02:21]So, um, unfortunately that's kind of the long and short of it, but I I do want to get community posts set up at some point so people can post about stuff in the in the community tab.

[00:02:53]Oh. Uh, yeah. Red Dead. Um, my streaming software keeps crashing.

[00:03:01]Yeah.

[00:03:09]I'd like to keep going for at least another like 40 45 minutes, assuming the software will let us.

[00:03:19]But um if it crashes too many more times, we may have to just call it a night early.

[00:03:25]But hopefully not. Yeah, Chase, this is definitely more annoying than the tripod spawning. Actually, that would be funny.

[00:03:31]I should make some little scale tripods that I can just leave all over the layout.

[00:03:36]>> Yeah, add that your no water level route layout if you ever make one.

[00:03:42]>> Yeah, that would be pretty funny.

[00:03:43]Although uh >> what what you do?

[00:03:50]>> Yeah. You know what I could do is I I'm sure I can re I can wrestle up a non-running locomotive. We could just make like a static diarama and pour some resin water that's like up to the axles.

[00:04:03]>> Oh, >> here's Okay, so here's what we can't speak. It's plowing through the views.

[00:04:14]>> Yeah.

[00:04:15]>> Whatever audio issue was happening also is back.

[00:04:19]>> Hey guys, the stream is over or >> my streaming software crashed, Ricardo.

[00:04:26]So, I have to start a new stream.

[00:04:28]>> Oh, okay.

[00:04:32]>> Oh, yeah. Here's what you do.

[00:04:42]Folks, if we can pause for a second, um, I think Chesse Systems audio issue is back and it's kind of definite.

[00:04:52]>> Oh, screw this stupid audio. I have I hate this audio. I hate audio. Audio sucks. Blue audio. Why does audio reject audio. Embrace Braille.

[00:05:06]>> Embrace static.

[00:05:11]>> Silence is golden.

[00:05:17]>> Yeah.

[00:05:18]>> Yeah. Chase, I never did figure out how to actually use the front parts.

[00:05:24]>> Uh, hello. Uh, Mr. Beans.

[00:05:28]I'm feeling tired, so I right now. I like it. It's a nice solid little switcher. No, no complaints.

[00:05:39]>> Well, I'm going to probably hop off. I'm feeling tired because I am. And so, yeah.

[00:05:47]>> Okay.

[00:05:48]>> Good night, I guess.

[00:05:49]>> Yeah. Good night.

[00:05:50]>> All right. Thanks for joining us.

[00:05:51]enjoying the stream and um thanks for drowning the Pennsylvania and New York Central. Thank you for drowning them both. They both deserve that.

[00:06:03]>> Yeah.

[00:06:05]>> All right. Have a good night, man.

[00:06:07]>> Have a good night.

[00:06:08]>> Have a good one.

[00:06:09]>> Cheers.

[00:06:13]So guys, thinking that once drops the M update and we started that series, I think we should do Rail Order one week and do a model table >> and just like Yeah, >> that's a good idea. I like that. Maybe we'll do that >> because we keep doing the same stream over and over, it probably will just get boring up. Yeah. Yeah, I like that idea. I think I think that'll work well. Uh, Red Dead the 119.

[00:06:46]So, depending on how light this the factory color is, it might work pretty well. Let me look up a picture of it real quick. Um, yeah, actually, I think that would work great. So yeah, the uh the one thing that I would do is give it a a flat clear coat first if it's glossy cuz I don't think the wash method will really work quite right on a glossy surface. So if you if you can hit it with like a um whatever the flattest clear coat you can find is just a thin layer of that, let that fully cure and then do the the wash effect for the wood grain. I think that'll look nice. Um, and then you may end up having to wipe the wash off of the number. But yeah, I think that'll work well cuz that is pretty. It does look pretty close to the color, the base color that I usually start with.

[00:07:42]Uh, TFC short review of the new 06. I like it. Thumbs up. Very nice little middle of the road um big locomotive.

[00:07:53]It'd be a good first locomotive sound.

[00:07:55]Um, yeah. nothing that really like stands out as particularly revolutionary, but also really nothing to complain about.

[00:08:02]It's it's a nice midpoint between the basic Bach 106 and the fancy proto one.

[00:08:07]This is basically everything you need, nothing you don't. So, uh, yeah, recommended definitely, especially if you can get one for a good price. If you can get one for 200 bucks, you're doing great. I don't think I pay more than 250. Chase's Railway Lines. video will be the build video for the Riverosi 4. At least that's the plan. Um, not sure when I'm going to finish that.

[00:08:32]Probably sometime next month.

[00:08:37]I'm looking at a piece of specific.

[00:08:41]I'm tired of either having the BNO 354 or the Jersey Central as one of the switchers on my uh future model.

[00:08:55]>> Um take a look. I mean, how much of a detail difference is there between them?

[00:09:02]Well, both engines have high mounted headlights, but the BNO tender is like it's almost like the size of like a regular tender that's these days.

[00:09:14]>> I see.

[00:09:17]>> Doesn't have an extended number compared to like the 115.

[00:09:21]>> Yeah, I'm looking at them on the site right now. I don't know. I think they both look good. I kind of prefer the white style of the BNO one. I feel like the Jersey Central, it has that super tiny little headlight kind of like the Alco mobile had and looks a little weird. I don't know why Bachmann does that.

[00:09:40]The VMO looks more like the New York Central one that I have.

[00:09:44]>> Um, but I mean it's obviously it's entirely up to you. If you're doing like an East Coast theme, I think either one would be plausible.

[00:09:51]Well, one of the railroads my planned railroad is I can't remember what the name is.

[00:10:09]>> Oh, I just remember what the name of it is. It's the Cedar Falls in Northern and it's located up in New Hampshire.

[00:10:17]>> New Hampshire. Okay.

[00:10:20]It's a railroad that originally started using both Super 4 and Wild Western 440's 260 as their starting point.

[00:10:31]They kind of blew most of their budget on laying the track between Senior Falls and Mapleton, which is a interchange with the Canadian National.

[00:10:40]>> So, you could probably have a couple of the Bachman new tooling 440s to represent those earlier engines.

[00:10:45]Yeah, but the roster is consisted of 10 engines which is the Bachman Spectrum 440, Bachman Spectrum 260, the 10-wheeler, the Consolidation, the three truck, an 06o, an 080 Pacific, and Maccato.

[00:11:05]>> Nice.

[00:11:07]>> Yeah. And I'm planning to set the railroad between the 1920s to the mid 1930s, which was their golden age before the week of collapse as it was stated by historians where during that one week everything fell apart for the railroad.

[00:11:27]>> Oh my go All I'm hearing right now, >> all I'm hearing right now is you have the New Hampshire version of Virginia Truckucky. Got it. That's actually a pretty good concept. I think I like that idea. Red Dead. Uh yeah, the Westport number one is still out of service. I'm still figuring out how I'm going to fit everything in there. Um I'm think I'm going to have to buy another Tsunami 1100 for that cuz I don't think anything else will fit.

[00:11:55]But yeah, that's my intentions once I eventually get myself a place where it's big enough to build the layout because I'm planning to make it as a deck layout. You probably know what those are.

[00:12:09]>> Um, like with two levels?

[00:12:12]>> Yeah, like building up with levels with a heel except to allow trains to travel from one level to another level.

[00:12:18]>> Okay, that's neat.

[00:12:20]>> It's basically one long layout that you're folding on top of itself.

[00:12:24]Yes. And I plan to have three layers one and 3B in the main and the second layer being exclusively used for the Applewood branch which is where the full 40260 reside.

[00:12:38]The one thing I will say is go easy on the grades in the helix cuz um the long continuous curve will also add some rolling resistance.

[00:12:49]So go like if your maximum grade is like 3% on a straight, I would go like 2% in the helix.

[00:12:56]>> Here's another thing is um what what manufacturers um are your engines from?

[00:13:02]>> Well, the 440, which I have in my collection right now, is for Bachman.

[00:13:06]The 26, the 10-wheeler, and the Connie will be for Bachman along with the Shay and the 06.

[00:13:13]I think the I'll be using a USR light Pacific and light mcado. As for the 080, I think I might have to find maybe uh Broadway limited imports possibly.

[00:13:31]>> Okay. Um for the the unless you already have it, the uh bli um us 282s, their light makados were awesome.

[00:13:43]So, >> if you do a bli, get the stealth version, put a different decoder in it, though. That's my piece of advice. BL decoders suck.

[00:13:51]>> The The only thing I'll I'll have to say against that is the Paragon 2. If you can find one that's like less than 180 bucks. That is a really good deal.

[00:14:02]>> Yeah. It also depends on how much of a sound file you are.

[00:14:07]>> Yeah. Again, it also depends on how much of a sound file you are.

[00:14:12]That's enough. That's enough.

[00:14:14]>> Um, so how how many cars do you think this railroad is going to run per train?

[00:14:23]>> Well, it depends. I try to make I'm trying to make it like as realistic as possible. Like it was a real rare that could have existed at one time in an alternative universe. I think the maximum of the mainline fre would probably be might be like about 20 cars.

[00:14:42]>> Okay. Um >> these short little engines, you're probably going to have to double head them to pull that much.

[00:14:48]>> Yeah, I was about to say with short engines like especially the boxing 440's um and your idea for a a great like a uh a helix with a grade on it. Um, yeah, you probably will have to double head or shorten the trains. Um, I don't I don't know if it's possible for a 2% helix that doesn't take up an entire room.

[00:15:14]>> I do know that at my local club, most people run diesels um unless they have $700 um what is it like the uh the B like the new BLI like >> semi brass or whatever it is. whatever that >> The other thing you could try is bullfrog snot for traction tires. It's kind of a uh a band-aid on the problem, but it does help.

[00:15:37]>> I've Well, the trains on the Applewood branch are not going to be as long as those on the main line. It's going to probably be like five to 10 cars maximum for the freight.

[00:15:50]>> So, Chase's railway, >> sorry. Um I got to answer a chat real quick.

[00:15:55]>> All right. Go ahead. Go ahead.

[00:15:56]>> Chase's railway lines. music in that video. I found it on the YouTube audio library. I believe it's called Doc and Wyatt, but I'll I will confirm that.

[00:16:12]>> Yeah, Doc and by Everett Almond.

[00:16:14]>> I think that's I'm looking for.

[00:16:16]>> Okay. Sorry.

[00:16:19]>> No, I'm not here yet. Um, so have you ever considered putting the apple r applewood branch off top because that your uh your engines might struggle up the first helix, but to get up to that second helix might just put more wear and tear on your engines than you could really want.

[00:16:37]Um, I mean I I like the idea of having like a branch line in the middle. I I do think that is a a solid idea, but having five cars on an Applewood branch um being on top would would mean that your engines, your steam engines aren't pulling as hard and as heavy and overheating and blah blah blah um up both helixes.

[00:17:01]>> But yeah, >> uh I don't know. I don't know the math on that cuz it also depends on what cars you're running. Cuz if you you say 20 cars, but that could mean 20 auto racks or that could mean 20 uh 32 foot um or gond lizard flat cars or something. So I don't know.

[00:17:21]>> Uh think of let me see if I can find like a weight car that would fit like like the Bachman 40ft box car or for comparison.

[00:17:35]>> Mhm.

[00:17:36]>> I mean, the railroad is a short line.

[00:17:39]It's not like a major common carrier.

[00:17:42]>> Yeah.

[00:17:43]>> Yeah. Well, that's preferred. Tell me who's your uh >> Robert? No, the endgage layout doesn't have a name yet. Um I'm actually debating basically just starting over from scratch with the Nscale layout cuz the grades that I put on it are kind of steeper than I wanted them to be, but that's a whole other discussion for another day.

[00:18:02]But to answer your question, no, at the moment it doesn't have a name yet. I've tossed around a few ideas for names. But it's going to depend on where eventually I end up setting the fictional town.

[00:18:15]But since you've been giving off a good amount of points, I think the mainline phrase would probably just be about 10 cars and the branches be about five.

[00:18:26]Honestly, 15 cars is probably a solid um a solid number to go, especially for like your Maccato. Um the other thing is making your cars lighter.

[00:18:42]>> Yeah.

[00:18:42]>> Now, the only thing >> really free rolling wheel sets will help a lot as I was about to say like uh the KD wheel sets. They're expensive, but you like you you can make them roll forever with the the slightest push.

[00:18:58]>> Yeah, they're really good. Uh hello from Western Canada. Hello. I used to live in Western Canada. It's lovely there.

[00:19:03]>> Oh, cool.

[00:19:05]>> The only caveat I have to making your cars lighter is you can't really run longer trains on on a shorter curb. It's like if you took them to a railroad club or to somebody else's house and you wanted to run them with some of their cars, your cars will probably fail because of their lighter nature. It's the same thing that Tao cars uh deal with.

[00:19:25]>> You could always just put the lighter cars at the back end of the train.

[00:19:28]>> You could that that's very true. You could >> That'll work. And then the heavier ones will prevent it from streamlining. And then since it's a short line, you could always do a uh a stump dodger and, you know, only really have two like two six axle cars and call it a night.

[00:19:44]>> I forgot my live streaming hat.

[00:19:49]>> But mostly the freight traffic on the railroad consists of local freight to local industries both on the main and on the branch as well as a cold drag and interchange to interchange bridge.

[00:20:05]Well, it's a bridge bridge road.

[00:20:07]>> Okay.

[00:20:07]>> Uh kind of it's a so Cedar Falls is a connection with both the main central and Bangor and Arustic and Mapleton is home to an interchange with the Canadian National. So they do a little bit of bridge traffic alongside serving the local industries.

[00:20:23]>> So I got to say what um what's the like the reason to have an Applewood branch?

[00:20:27]I mean, not not to be that guy, but um it is your it is a it's that whole thing of uh you know, your railroad, your rule, blah blah blah blah blah. But I do got to I do got to ask, what is the point of the Apple branch? Is it like a is it a separately owned company or is it like a division of the company or is it just is a company but a branch of it?

[00:20:50]The Applewood branch splits off from the middle of the layout nicknamed by nicknamed Midpoint. Primarily, it has two major industries. One being the Applewood Apple Orchard, which supplies apples to the Cedar Falls Apple Cider Factory, and the other being the Splinterton Lumber Company, which supplies a large which requires a large amount of wealth.

[00:21:17]>> Such a great name for a lumber company.

[00:21:19]I love that.

[00:21:20]Yes. And that's actually where the SHA is assigned to. The SHA is half owned by the railroad and the lumber company.

[00:21:30]Oh, >> you ever consider narating that?

[00:21:33]>> I don't know. I don't know how popular roads.

[00:21:36]>> Oh, yeah. They tend to do that.

[00:21:39]Maybe >> maybe they think it maybe well maybe I might sprinkle in some former narrow gauge tracks like they were trying to do it were thinking about originally using three foot narrow gauge but since the lieutenant of a company was like well we don't want to worry about fuel gauge trackage and the transfer fees and all that so let's just do standard gauge Can I red? Good luck with the 119.

[00:22:12]>> I don't know exactly what uh what kind of industry or what kind of tracks or what kind of um anything is for New Hampshire. I don't really have a dog in that fight. But I will say um if it is through the New England area um I will say that having a lumber road or at least like a a remnant of a lumber road would be kind of a neat idea. I've seen some people do it where um you know the the railroads would service this uh this lumber mill or uh this uh you know this this coal I guess refinery. I don't know exactly what what they would do, but um on one side it would have the main line and on the other side it would have I guess like now a road, but it they would put like Nscale roaded and then embed it onto their foam. So it it looked like there was a road bed there for a a narrage road, but it's just it's covered over and it's now part of just a road that truck because that's that's cheaper now.

[00:23:19]Um.

[00:23:20]>> Huh. That sounds very interesting. I'll I'll chop that down.

[00:23:24]>> I've also seen um uh like old diamonds. I'm not a diamond guy, but I just say the occasional like empty roaded to that just passes over your track and it's like like three like three foot of roaded that's empty and it passes over your track and you're like, "Oh, yeah. What's that?" Oh, you know, it's this old road. This is old uh >> railroad once ran in this region before >> yeah not well it doesn't have to be it could be a stem gate like the uh literally everything if you ever look on something like rail guide you go to the east coast you can like you you go to classic owners or to uh to early owners and it's just filled to the brim with diamonds and um with tracks and and a lot of redundancy and then you uh switched over to uh you modern or whatever and all over.

[00:24:22]>> Yeah.

[00:24:23]>> So, you know, I I don't know about you.

[00:24:26]I don't know about other people. I love to include stories into my um to my railroad. So, that's that's just where my ideas are coming from.

[00:24:37]>> Yeah, but that sounds very interesting.

[00:24:39]I'll keep that in mind.

[00:24:44]All I just plan to do for my layout is to make it designed for ops so I can invite some uh model train guys over and just handle both mainline passenger and braids and do work on the Applewood branch and such.

[00:25:02]That's what I plan to do for my layout.

[00:25:05]It's mostly going to be hops because op layouts are a lot more fun than just running trains around in the loop. No offense.

[00:25:12]>> No, it's totally fine. My I designed this layout primarily to be filmed for YouTube, so it kind of naturally leads toward the running around in a loop format, >> but I'm aware that it's not the best for operation.

[00:25:28]Yeah, I don't know when I'll get started with my layouts, >> but maybe someday once I start becoming a little bit more, you know, wealthier and I have a place that's big enough for the layout.

[00:25:43]Um, Robert, yeah, iron ore is an interesting little industry. I don't know a whole lot about it. I'm going to have to look up some more about it, but I did see that there were some like superior cars in that lot that you sent me.

[00:25:56]>> Oh. LSNI. That's >> Yeah, I have an NS scale layout that's been kind of in a perpetual unfinished state for a while that I haven't bothered to make a video on cuz I'm thinking I might like start over from scratch on it. I'm not really sure what the idea is.

[00:26:13]>> You and the idea.

[00:26:17]>> Sorry about talking like about my playout for like a couple of minutes.

[00:26:23]I'm sorry. to get back into the main program which is seeing red loops layout in action.

[00:26:28]>> Well, what's the point of, you know, having a stream about trains with the Discord if you're not going to talk about, you know, >> Yeah. going train related is fair game here. Um, >> yeah.

[00:26:41]Although it does occur to me that um since it's kind of hard for me to keep up with both the chat and the Discord conversation when it gets busy um if we end up doing the thing where we alternate between different streams, it might be worth only having the Discord chat in the railroader ones cuz those will probably have few less viewers and then >> that would enable me to keep up with the chat better than the model trains. It would get more it would kind of distribute the comp in the book cuz if we just you know constantly throw out ideas IDs or whatever that we're going to run out of stuff though eventually that's just going to stagnate. So >> and with how >> um Chase unfortunately the endscale layout is down in the basement right now so I can't I mean I guess I could haul it up here but it's probably not worth it. Um I'll do a video about it at some point.

[00:27:30]>> How big is the layout? Uh >> it's 2x 5 ft.

[00:27:35]55. That's uh >> is it that big in n scale terms?

[00:27:41]>> Uh in n scale terms, well in if you if you go by the idea that n scale of roughly half the size of ho, which it's not quite, but it's close. Then it's a little bit bigger than a 4x8 in terms of n scale.

[00:27:56]>> The turning radius is going to be terrible though. That's the >> Yeah, the turning radius is I think 9 and 3/4 in. I am thinking I might just start over from scratch and do something different cuz the way that I did it, it's like a dog bone folded over on itself with 2% grades and the combination of the 2% gray and the sharp curve means that a lot of locomotives can't really pull anything up it.

[00:28:21]>> Yeah.

[00:28:22]>> So, I'm leaning toward scrapping that and just starting over from scratch.

[00:28:26]Maybe I do like the idea of having some vertical separation and kind of a mountainous theme, but I'm thinking maybe two separate lines at two different elevations instead of having them all be connected. So I could have two two trains running on separate loops at the same time. It's going to be purely a display layout cuz trying to get switching to work in Ncale just seems like unnecessarily difficult.

[00:28:48]>> Well, well well here's an idea.

[00:28:51]You ever heard of the um the term or idea of infinite operations?

[00:28:58]>> No.

[00:29:00]>> So basically it's a way to uh where you when you service an industry to say it's you're not really serving the industry.

[00:29:08]You're just pushing uh rail cars around on a hidden like a staging yard. Um, a great example of this is if you push empty cars into a um have a loop and pushing empty cars into a uh like a like a mine or whatever and then um going on the other track and then picking up coal cars, running it around.

[00:29:31]>> I think I might know what you're talking about. I haven't heard I did see >> I did see a video on a layout setup like that. That was super cool.

[00:29:40]Yeah, it's Yeah, it's exactly the one I think.

[00:29:43]>> Yeah, I think it was Lambert.

[00:29:47]>> Yeah, it was Jimmy Lambert.

[00:29:48]>> Yeah, that was a cool idea. Like >> that one. I thought that was so cool.

[00:29:54]>> When I saw that layout, like the first thing I did was open up Scarm and start drawing up what what I could possibly build that would be like that cuz I love that idea.

[00:30:04]So, I tried to do that on my original layout where I it was a modern um I guess little uh line or whatever. It would service a steel mill and there would be a a double track tunnel. Well, the steel mill would um or I guess not really a steel mill, it's just a manufacturing plant would um take in box cars and um and the same box cars would come out, I guess, manufactured items.

[00:30:27]And then of course there'd be um different you know other switching opportunities to uh to happen like uh you like tank car on propane and uh a small little drain facility but I have a 30x 80 layout and the curves were just I couldn't make them work. Um I I'm just I wish it would have worked but like they would be too close for the layout or they'd be too sharp and my engine would derail and blah blah blah blah blah. So, I you know, back to the drawing board for the eighth time.

[00:31:03]But >> I'll be right back. I got to use the rest.

[00:31:06]>> Here, if you had something that was like 3 ft wide or >> Yeah. No, 3 ft wide because then >> Bumblebee 2. Oh, we should do that.

[00:31:16]>> I forgot I hadn't already done that this stream actually.

[00:31:20]Change of plan.

[00:31:29]So, if you have something like uh like a 6x3 scale layout, you can do infinite offs where you could still run trains around with loops and be good, but you could also do an off session every once in a while.

[00:31:40]>> Yeah, I do kind of like that idea where you can like I don't remember what the industry was on Jimmy Lambert's layout, but it was like >> Yeah, there's three. Um, you could you'd basically be like pushing loaded cars in and pulling empties out, but then because it like went through the backdrop um then on the other serving you would have empties and loads there.

[00:32:08]>> Yeah. So, I think the uh I can't remember the first one that he did. Um, I I actually I think he only did two um infinite operations because there was one that was like um I think it it was like a a layout planning like hell video or whatever. So it was like um your your loop tracks and then your infinite operations and then your like ops only layouts which I mean ops only would be you know >> point or whatever.

[00:32:37]I think the two layups that he did, one of them was a toll layup, which is one I was describing were you pushes in, you on the other track, you take uh loads out, you turn around, you shove loads in, you take the entries out with rinse and repeat because it's like another railroad disturbing you. But the other one was um the plate. You would take plate out of a core, run it uh do some twitching with it, run it around, and shove it into a um a uh shoot, what is it? like a a dock or whatever and then take empty bats and then shove those in back into the quarry and then the core >> I think that's the one I was thinking of.

[00:33:14]>> Yeah.

[00:33:15]>> Like the quarry itself was like one on one side of the backdrop.

[00:33:19]>> Yeah, it was and it wasn't more than like 6 in long cuz it was just like again I think you said or something like insanely small.

[00:33:28]>> Yeah, it was similar. It was something along those lines. I don't remember the details.

[00:33:31]You're thinking, "Wow, >> super ingenious."

[00:33:37]>> Yeah. So, I think that was like a twoft by 3T or at least a 3ft by 4 foot something or other.

[00:33:45]>> Uh, the PC pit stop. Send me an email red oak cranes atgmail.com.

[00:33:57]All right, I'm back. Sorry, I had to use the restroom.

[00:34:02]>> Welcome back.

[00:34:08]>> Yeah, genius.

[00:34:17]>> It is. I'm pretty sure that's the one I was thinking of. Uh, Chase, there's two that are >> the Red Oak Overtons. Um, they're in here.

[00:34:28]I stole the couplers off of them for the Rio Grand ones. So, they're not really Well, they have plastic couplers on them, but I'm just having issues with the plastic couplers, which is why I swapped gaties. So, these exist.

[00:34:41]Eventually, I'll fix them up and make them nice. But, right now, the Rio Grand ones are my main set of pins. And then I do have the 50ft ones as well. which are having wheel issues.

[00:34:56]They started derailing a lot and I never figured out why. Uh, Robert, we had a 636 pretty soon. Let me pull it out here. This is one of the engines that Robert commissioned me to put DCC and sound in. This is a Mento Pacific.

[00:35:12]>> Wait, uh, is it that Canadian 462 or is it something else?

[00:35:20]Uh, no. I think it's a BNO prototype.

[00:35:22]I'm not 100% sure. This one has a tender off of an MDC engine. Um, >> oh, okay, never mind. I was thinking about that Civic you reviewed a couple of years ago.

[00:35:36]>> Oh, no, that one was IHC. And actually, I believe Ricardo has that one now.

[00:35:41]>> Actually, yeah, I do. You sold me that engine alongside.

[00:35:47]>> Yeah. Yeah, I still have them. They're they're kept the same. I haven't run them, but they're still safe.

[00:35:56]>> Yeah.

[00:35:56]>> Yeah. Pacifics are kind of Pacific are just really elegant passenger engines in their prime back in the day.

[00:36:03]>> They are. I kind of want to get one of the Bachman USR light Pacific. Something similar to the IHC one that I had, but more detailed.

[00:36:12]>> Well, I really like the Pacific, too.

[00:36:15]Um that >> sorry just wanted to say something but you go first please.

[00:36:25]>> Thank you. So for models on what's the property number still at this time are Atlantic coastline number 1528 5223 and Santa Bay 13.

[00:36:43]The latter is never actually.

[00:36:54]Yeah, the specifics for the USRE ACL line, Ohio.

[00:37:23]Uh, Chase, the Airwolf helicopter's in a box somewhere. I haven't gotten it out since the move.

[00:37:32]You know something? When I think of Nashville, I think the southern the southern region of America.

[00:37:41]>> Yeah, it is kind of like it's at the northern the northern edge.

[00:37:45]>> It's on the that area, but it is kind of >> It is on the south or I would consider it part of the South. I think it's not the Midwest, which I guess would be the other option.

[00:38:04]>> The Midwest would be a good place to run stuff.

[00:38:08]>> It would rain.

[00:38:11]It's like scientist testing to see how fast the I think Pacific was the Pacific were the top link expression in Britain actually.

[00:38:34]>> Yeah. But is it that in America in America for other like streamliners and maybe the mountain or um >> yeah there's no there's no other engine that absolutely I mean possibly not in some cases depending on how big your FDF was but in most cases the FDF was the absolute pop off.

[00:39:05]>> Um for mountains, for mountains, I can run express trains. Look at the ball hawk.

[00:39:12]>> Yeah, definitely.

[00:39:13]>> Yeah.

[00:39:13]>> Is a 482 mountain.

[00:39:19]>> It's a mohawk if it's New York Central.

[00:39:21]Otherwise, it's the family of the country.

[00:39:34]42.

[00:39:38]>> Yeah.

[00:39:38]>> Yeah. Yeah, it's got two different >> I mean the thing there's one thing I want to mention the kind of I mean the US was the one that got every Robert I have been on a couple of those miniature trains. There was one near where I used to live in Canada. I think there might be one near me now, but I haven't I haven't been there. I'll have to look into it.

[00:40:14]I think the US engines are like the best examples of like what an American steam lo the US stuff I feel like was kind of like like the generic almost kind of like store brand version of each class of steam load is like this is like the version that is most likely to have the widest appeal to different railroads and to their credit they work pretty well.

[00:40:42]Yeah, they just basically picked the best design features of stuff that already existed.

[00:40:53]>> Are you doing that specific later on?

[00:40:57]By the way, you need to Yeah, that's that'll be up to the owner, Robert, who's in the chat. Um, I'm not doing any paintwork on it. I'm just doing the DCC and sound and motor install. All right. I'll have to have a listen to it when the stream is over. So, >> yeah, you can hear cuz the echoing it's it could get very very >> Yeah. Um, yeah. I You probably can't hear it too well through my headset mic either, but yeah, it's got a tsunami too in it.

[00:41:35]It's a nice uh Western Pacific whistle.

[00:41:40]Bro, that specific is running does run really nice.

[00:41:45]>> It does. I put a can motor in it from CV back shop on eBay.

[00:41:50]>> Wow.

[00:41:52]>> Honestly, I do want to try this out though.

[00:41:57]Always something holds me back on it.

[00:42:03]It's kind They're kind of tricky to install. The hardest part is getting the gears to mesh exactly right.

[00:42:13]Well, I'm not talking about I'm not talking about the way they had to be installed. More like who it puts its opinion on me for getting those motors.

[00:42:24]>> Oh, yeah. I guess uh in Mexico they're probably not as easy to get. I don't know if CV Back Shop will ship directly there or not.

[00:42:32]>> Uh no, no, no. More like my father in that case. when I show him these kind when I show him these models these motors well he didn't seem to approve them >> oh >> pretty much of the price and say it's like a insignificant or something I can't recall >> they are a little expensive for what they are but if you're going to put DCC and sound in it you really need a can motor and those are a good one >> yeah so the thing is he says that because I replaced the motor of a of a model train that means I'll taking off his value.

[00:43:07]>> I wouldn't say that. I'd say if anything, uh, putting a a better motor in it is adding to the value.

[00:43:13]>> Most rivers motors are absolute hot garbage. So, any new motor being put in there are >> I mean, >> like I have I have the Y6B. I'm having a uh motor put into it. And, >> you know, I I'm I'm hitting roadblocks, but the moment it's going to be done, it's going to be a much better engine, much, you know, better runner, much quieter, much smoother.

[00:43:35]Just everything about it is so much better.

[00:43:38]>> I would say in Ho at least, anything that didn't have a CAN motor originally, adding a CAN motor to it is going to increase its value significantly.

[00:43:47]>> I await to see how the model looks.

[00:44:03]So, how's everything been so far?

[00:44:07]>> Oh, not too bad. I'm um just working on commissions and stuff. Um I'm doing one more locomotive for Robert and this one does need a little bit of paintwork because um it's a Mano460 and the boiler, the plastic was all weirdly soft and kept breaking apart. So, luckily I had a spare one. So, I'm painting up a replacement boiler for it to match the original one. Um, but then I'm going to get DCC and sound installed in that and then I'll be able to send that and rubber to other locomotives back to it.

[00:44:38]And that'll be I think the biggest commission I've done so far. That'll be four locomotives in one go.

[00:44:49]And then after that, I think uh Red Dead Railroad has some more stuff for me to work on as well.

[00:44:55]I see.

[00:44:56]>> And I've also been trying to get as much of my stuff working as possible because uh early next month uh myself, Peter, and a few other of the New England folks are taking a trip to the Providence Northern Model Railway Club to run a bunch of our stuff and make a video. So, I want to have as many of my custom models working as possible for that.

[00:45:18]>> Ah, all right.

[00:45:19]>> Just Just don't rush it. Um cuz they all might break. So, >> yeah, that's the thing is I want to have um I want to have a few extra so that I have something to run in case everything breaks. But I'm bringing both of these four. I'm bringing number eight. Um I'm going to bring that Manto Prairie that I was running last week, assuming I can get that working. Um it's having some issues, that clunking noise that it was making last time. Um it turns out that the entire frame is warped and I'm going to have to replace it. So, I have I found another one on eBay. It's on the way. Hopefully, I'll be able to squeak in just under the wire and get it back together and working in time to go to Progress.

[00:46:04]>> All right.

[00:46:12]>> But, uh, failing that, I'll probably also bring the Bach 6o just in case absolutely everything else fails. And I believe the plan is that Peter is going to bring his New York Central Alco FA um and then I'll bring this dummy one and we can run them together as an AA pair.

[00:46:33]I was hoping that we'd be able to run them both powered, but this one the motor uh that was in it was really really noisy.

[00:46:41]Um so I just took it out so we can run it as a dummy unit. I just um took out the motor, took out one of the gears on each truck's free wheels. Um and then we'll uh we'll figure out what's wrong with it later, >> but it does match the other one.

[00:47:02]I'm not so sure.

[00:47:03]>> Um I'm not sure. It sounds like like the brushes on the commutator is what's making the noise.

[00:47:11]I don't I mean I feel like Bachman's in-house motors are always a little bit noisy, but this one's considerably worse than those. So, I'm not sure exactly what's wrong with it. I'll probably just put a different motor in it.

[00:47:23]But for now, I've got too many other things to work on.

[00:47:29]>> I see. I see.

[00:47:32]>> Oh, he sees.

[00:47:36]>> Oh dear. So, that's where you left now.

[00:47:39]Uh, Asher, I I ran the Rio Grand locomotive a little bit ago. I can run it again. Um, I'll wait till this one comes the rest of the way around and then I'll switch back to the overton cars.

[00:48:01]I don't know what is going on with the autofocus on this camera. It usually does not have this problem where like usually when you zoom in it can maintain the focus throughout the entire zoom no matter what you do. But today it's just it's just not happy and I don't know why. I have noticed the autofocus on this camera has kind of been getting gradually worse over the past few months and this camera is pretty old. So I'm thinking it might be time to upgrade to a newer camera at some point.

[00:48:30]>> Yeah. And uh sorry about that. that I accidentally closed on the tab of where we were talking. I wanted to say that you have built quite the impressive collection of equipment for your railroad and I'm actually kind of jealous. Oh, well, thank you. Um, it is just basically many many years of buying whatever looks interesting and then selling whatever I get bored with.

[00:48:55]>> I mean, >> yeah, that's how and that's how I got some of his engines, too.

[00:49:01]Yeah, like especially some of the IHC stuff. I was like, you know what? This is this is decent stuff, but I just don't run it that much anymore. So, I'd rather >> um I'd rather see it get used by somebody who will actually use it and have a little bit of the money back to spend on the next thing.

[00:49:22]>> So, that's pretty much a trade of selling and buying or something like that.

[00:49:27]>> Yes.

[00:49:29]Model train flipping 101.

[00:49:32]>> Yeah. Model train flipping rule one.

[00:49:34]Don't expect to make a profit cuz you won't.

[00:49:38]>> Yeah.

[00:49:38]>> Well, hold on. Wait a minute.

[00:49:44]>> Except for once in a lifetime finds like that legacy diesel for 75 bucks that we found at the train show at one year.

[00:49:52]Um >> Mhm.

[00:49:54]Other than that, pretty much any profit you make is going to be eaten up by shipping and eBay fees.

[00:50:00]>> Yeah.

[00:50:03]>> You don't do it for money. You do it for the love of the game.

[00:50:07]>> Yeah. Obviously, >> I do pay for my next engine.

[00:50:13]>> Yep.

[00:50:17]It's actually one of the reasons I started doing commissions cuz >> flipping stuff was not making me any hobby money >> and I'm lucky enough to live with my folks so I don't have to pay for housing but uh the various hobby goings on do still consume a certain amount of money as well as like gas and stuff.

[00:50:43]Yeah.

[00:50:52]One of these days I'll get a regular job again, but for now doing commissions is making just enough to keep me thoroughly overwhelmed with train projects.

[00:51:06]>> That is fine.

[00:51:06]>> All right.

[00:51:09]>> All right. We've had another request to run the Bumblebee. Seems it's quite popular tonight.

[00:51:16]So that's a new name for your for your um for your grand yellow engine as in the bumblebee.

[00:51:25]>> Oh yeah. Well, it's just um it's just what people tend to call that paint scheme.

[00:51:30]>> I say you had to make it official. Like it's easy to remember.

[00:51:36]>> It kind of was official. I mean the real drink quite literally called it the bumblebee or at least the Aspen Gold.

[00:51:44]And uh well to be fair it wasn't successful because nobody really truly liked a bright yellow engine. So >> well the thing is >> I mean it they looked cool in model form but >> yeah the thing with the bumblebee paint scheme is that it was pretty much always like a retcon thing. like it was a paint scheme on their diesels and in that case it looked like a perfectly normal diesel paint scheme but then for the 1949 I think the Chicago railroad fair they slapped it on an old steam engine to be like look this is our consistent branding across all of time >> and then that's what we ooh that's unusual for a steam engine we like that so then when they made the movie Denver and Real Grand a year or two later they painted up a couple more engines in that scheme >> um and the passenger cars and everything and that's kind of what created like the whole motif of Bumblebee yellow Rio Grand and narrow gauge that we know today. It was it was basically just their diesel steam from the ' 50s copy pasted onto a steam engine.

[00:52:50]>> The only kind of like uh I say is I guess wrong thing about it is um I'm sure you are aware but uh 491 before it got repainted about a month or two ago was actually green. The boiler was green, but about um a year after they painted it, she just kept uh spitting out soot as you know a steam engine does.

[00:53:14]>> Yeah.

[00:53:14]>> And so it looked black. And that's the only thing against the uh the bumblebee yellow is no matter what you paint a steam engine, it wants to be black. So >> Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I mean, the thing after the movie was done, one of the um the Bumblebee, I think it was the one from the rail the railroad fair 268 um was put back into service on the narrow gauge for the last year or two of of its operation and it was still in the yellow paint and there's footage of it in like its last couple months um running on what was left of the line.

[00:53:52]>> It's absolutely filthy.

[00:53:57]So yeah, I can definitely understand why they didn't do the Bumblebee stuff in service. It just looks really cool in retrospect.

[00:54:04]>> They gave it to their steady.

[00:54:08]>> Well, you don't see so many yellow engines these days. And actually, yellow is a very underrated color to be on an engine.

[00:54:16]>> I feel like Union Pacific is kind of monopolized yellow.

[00:54:20]>> Yeah, Union Pacific yellow. So, >> I mean something that actually something I mean an engine that actually fits with yellow.

[00:54:33]>> Kind of do.

[00:54:35]>> You really don't see yellow hardly at all on steam engines. And I feel like >> it's either a real Grand Bumblebee or nothing as far as the other steam engines go, which is fair. I mean, it's it's a very loud color. It's not something you want to see all everywhere all the time.

[00:54:50]>> If you if you want to get into technicalities and pointing danger, like technically the uh Chesapeake and Ohio, their um streamlined engines were silver and yellow.

[00:55:03]>> Okay. I mean, I guess Okay, so there's two >> technically the yellowies, >> but also technically those are ugly. So, Uh, Chase, where's the two wheeler? Are you talking about the O gauge one that I u that I bought on eBay recently that I'm going to do some stuff with?

[00:55:28]>> I haven't really done anything with it yet, but here it is.

[00:55:33]Speaking of loud colors, Dang, it's after 11 already.

[00:56:06]>> I might think about wrapping up the stream pretty soon.

[00:56:10]>> I got work tomorrow as well.

[00:56:12]>> Yeah, see if I can um see if I can wrap it up before OBS crashes again.

[00:56:19]Yeah, but >> but I think the plan that we alternate between the railroad and the love trains, I think that probably might be the best plan going forward.

[00:56:30]>> Yeah, I do like that idea. I think that's a good one. Are we going to So, does that mean we're going to start doing Railroad next week or should we wait until the update is out?

[00:56:38]>> We should probably wait until the Mate comes out. I mean, if we're going to wait till then, >> that's going to be another three or four months, but and like that's like being very generous.

[00:56:50]>> Well, we could find something else to play in the meantime.

[00:56:54]>> Tycoon 3. Oh, no.

[00:56:57]>> Oh. Oh, you know what? I kept saying I was going to do a Lionel Train Town stream. Maybe I should do that.

[00:57:03]>> Yes.

[00:57:04]>> Yeah.

[00:57:06]If anybody wants to if anybody wants to one v one me on a railroad tycoon 3 map, go ahead and DM me.

[00:57:14]>> I will see if the game doesn't crash on me. And >> I was going to also recommend Railway Empire 2. They do have cooperative multiplayer.

[00:57:25]>> Yeah, Rail Empire.

[00:57:29]It's very fun, but it feels like you have to read a lot of manuals to understand the game. Cuz I don't know if I'm just stupid, but I feel like when I played through the uh the campaign, I was like, first one was like, "Okay, yeah, this is easy, you know, to building to uh was it to like Washington DC and build?" And the second one was like, "Oh, yeah, you got to get across the the map. Okay, this isn't going to be hard." Oh, and uh oh, and a 50% of my shares. Okay, that's just great. That's awesome. Denver. Hello. We're running your train at the moment.

[00:58:00]>> We'll discuss this. We'll discuss this later.

[00:58:04]>> Yeah.

[00:58:05]>> Yeah. We can discuss this in the Discord stream.

[00:58:13]Uh Chase Railway Lines. Um the Williams 460. It's in the other room with the rest of the O game stuff. Um, nothing on it has really changed since the video, but uh, yeah, once I get um, once I get some scenery down in the O gauge out, I'll do another video with that engine, maybe.

[00:58:44]Oops, I hit the wrong button.

[00:58:46]Never mind.

[00:58:49]I keep getting emergency stop by accident when I made it different.

[00:58:54]>> Fair. I mean, lots of people always have a vendor.

[00:59:00]>> That's a failure.

[00:59:03]>> Okay, that's the last thing we have to hear actually.

[00:59:09]>> What do you think?

[00:59:10]>> Yeah, >> I stream. I don't think it came through the Discord audio.

[00:59:17]No, >> Chase. Yeah, the other MTH10 Wheeler was um that one that blew a soundboard. I think the reason it blew a soundboard is that it had some water damage. One of the reasons I actually bought the one that I just got was um cuz I needed I'm going to combine parts from both to make one working one cuz there was a the old one wasn't really salvageable, but there's some bits of it that are. So, it's I'm going to combine the collection of parts that I have now.

[00:59:51]>> No, when you mentioned that it didn't have so much water damage. Let me guess, it was a steam engine.

[00:59:57]>> Yes, but not like that.

[00:59:59]>> Oh, yeah. When you mentioned the water damage and it was a steam engine, I was just like I just cringe so hard. It's like water, what have you done to this engine? You're supposed to work with it.

[01:00:12]You're supposed to make Steve so he can do the choo choo. Yeah. No, it was an MTH gauge engine that somebody I'm not I don't know exactly what happened cuz it came to me in a plastic tub, but it looked like it had been sitting on maybe like a sagging wood shelf or something and then it had been sitting in about a/4 in of water for quite some time.

[01:00:34]>> Oh, >> cuz there was like there was like rust almost up to the axles on every wheel.

[01:00:42]I am critically.

[01:00:45]I mean, I know some people are trying their best to keep their brains safe and damaged, but >> well, it just breaks my heart to see a good >> It was also really, really dusty on one side and perfectly clean on the other.

[01:01:00]So, I think it had been sitting on the shelf in one position for quite a few years.

[01:01:05]Yeah, >> it's not as old as I thought it was cuz it's it's the BNO one with Protoound 3.

[01:01:11]So, it can't be that old, but it seems like it spent most of its existence on that shelf.

[01:01:19]>> And it looks like we got somebody from Argentina.

[01:01:23]>> Oh, welcome.

[01:01:25]>> That's a big >> Yeah, two. The one I had had Protoound 3. I don't know what the the one that I just bought originally had because it doesn't have any of the original electronics. Hey, Peter, tell your dad happy birthday for me.

[01:01:47]>> Yes, I actually did have some donors this morning. I'm trying to get some history. Memorial Day.

[01:01:56]>> Are we seriously 10 subs away FROM 5K?

[01:01:58]WOW.

[01:02:00]OH, 10 SUBS away from 5K. Let's do this.

[01:02:03]Let's go. Let's go.

[01:02:04]>> The Proidence Northern Video is going to have to end up being a 5K subscriber special.

[01:02:11]>> Proto No, Proto Sound is made by MTH.

[01:02:14]It's just a coincidence that it has the same name as Proto.

[01:02:19]>> Yeah, but that would be awesome.

[01:02:22]A 5K special this time because not every channel gets 5k subscribers. I think it I think the 4K special that I did was also Providence Northern.

[01:02:32]That was when I took like Westport 12 up down there.

[01:02:43]>> But yeah, that's going to I guess that's kind of a tradition on the channel now that every time we hit a subscriber milestone, we go to Province.

[01:02:50]>> Yeah, >> fair enough. I suppose >> Chase. Yeah, MTH smoke units are definitely probably the best in business.

[01:03:01]I have one of the old MTH Generals with Protoound Well, it had protoound one. It doesn't anymore. I put DCC in it, but the smoke unit on that thing will fumigate me out of the room in like 3 minutes.

[01:03:14]>> It's just that good.

[01:03:16]>> Yeah, >> because it was proound one, it doesn't have the pumping thing. So the smokeokium is just running full power all the time. So it's basically it's like a theatrical fog machine.

[01:03:35]I don't have the mth equipment myself. I don't even have an empty. I might get that, but I'm also sure if it's compatible with the legacy.

[01:03:45]Um that I am not certain. I think there are ways to run them together.

[01:03:56]Whoa, voice break.

[01:04:00]>> Oh crap, the stream froze again.

[01:04:03]>> Well, I think it's pretty much a good point to finish off with the >> It is, but I don't know if people can still hear us.

[01:04:12]>> Oh, um, hold on. Let me let me open up the stream on my phone and see if it's still actually going.

[01:04:25]Um, let me >> Okay, so they can still hear us. The video is just frozen. So, I think maybe we just sign off now. Um, thank you for watching everybody.

[01:04:45]>> Rolling up the side of the screen to the right was like perfectly was like done perfectly at the right moment.

[01:04:54]>> Yeah, Chase's railway. No, I currently still have both of my O gauge 06's.

[01:05:00]>> Um, mon rail fan. Yeah, the video is not working. Uh, I think I was just I was getting ready to end it anyway, so I think maybe we'll just end it here. Um, everybody in Discord, thank you for joining me. Everybody in the YouTube world, thank you for watching. Um, we will be back next week and hopefully with a less crashy software.

[01:05:24]>> Yeah. All right, everybody. Have a good night.

[01:05:28]>> Have a good one. Cheers. Don't let the bed bugs bite. And if they do, bite back.

[01:05:33]>> Good night, everyone.

[01:05:35]>> Bite your bed.

[01:05:37]>> That's a fender bender.