No Arrest. No Charges. A Protest. The Anita Grayson Case Just Got More Complicated

Hinzugefügt: 2026-05-23

[00:00:00]How you guys doing today? It's Anthony Ganji. Welcome to another episode of Chair Talk. Guys, we are going to visit the Anita Grayson case one more time.

[00:00:10]Um, if you're not too familiar with this case, I do recommend you check out my other videos I've done on this where we broke down the video. I'm going to break it down again today. I just want to revisit it. U, but I do have some updates. The police did release a timeline which I think is a bit interesting. But I want to show you the video. There's something that no one else I guess is saying or has noticed. I when I did my second video on this case and I broke down the video, I caught something at the very end of that video that I think is important within context. So, I think what I'll do when I showcase the video again today, and we'll kind of just do a quick breakdown because I broke down the video a couple of times already, but I want to show you something that I caught at the end of the second video that I did that I think will provide some context. Now, guys, listen. In the end, I mean, I've been covering true crime, trying my best.

[00:01:10]I I don't want anybody to lose their life. So, let's just put that out there.

[00:01:15]But with that said, I also want to be fair in the coverage that I provide. The coverage that I provide is I'm trying my best to not run on emotions. I'm trying my best to be objective. I think the big problem with this case right now is that the news ran with a narrative that was created off of a cropped video. So that false narrative becomes a belief. It becomes harder now for people to see any other angle outside of what has been pushed forward by the media.

[00:02:02]I think when we do shows like this, I think that we should try our best to make sure that we're pushing out content that has context. I think that is key and I think that the news jumped on it because it was a viral video. They pushed a narrative uh that has now been accepted by a lot of people and and the sad thing is is even if the evidence says something to the contrary, a lot of people are not going to be willing to see this uh or or want to accept it. I think that's the case and in the end um I'm not going to shift my position and and again it's not something people are saying it's victim blaming it's it's not victim blaming because in my mind yes what happened to her Anita Grayson was horrible but she's not the victim she's not there's more to the story here and I'm going to try again to one um give you the latest updates, but then I want to show you something in the video that I I do think should be a bit of an eyeopener. It kind of supports the narrative and again it's it's it's something I noticed towards the end of when I did my second video. But let me give you the update so far. So on the morning of of May 13, 2026, we know 75-year-old Anita Anne Grayson walked into Tim Hortons at 3975 Iceway in in Fort Wayne, Indiana to complain about a drive-through order. So within minutes, she was on the floor unresponsive. She would later be pronounced dead at the hospital. A short lowquality clip was posted by her daughter framed the incident as a 75-year-old grandmother being beaten to death by a Tim Hortons employee, and that version of events went viral. Uh, since then, police have released the full surveillance video, the preliminary autopsy, and now a detailed timeline of their own response.

[00:04:03]That's what I have now. That's the update. Protesters have taken to the streets. Local officials are split, and prosecutors are still deciding whether anyone will be charged. Now, according to Fort Wayne police and the store surveillance footage, this is how it played out inside the Tim Horton. So, I'll show you the video again. But guys, I would like for you if you get a chance to watch all the videos I've done on this because um um as you can see the consistency in our coverage, but uh we cover more uh in the other episodes.

[00:04:30]Right now, I'm just going to kind of speak through this and then show you the video. I want to show you a perspective.

[00:04:36]Uh so, 8:09 a.m. Anita Grayson walks into Tim Hortons to address a problem with her drive-through order. She approaches the counter, begins verbally berating a 17-year-old female employee.

[00:04:45]Now, this is coming from the police reports and and witness testimony because again, there's no audio in the video, but that is um what's being reported by local law enforcement. Shift leader August her, 20, steps between Anita and the teenager and repeatedly tells Anita to lead the restaurant. You could see that through the body language. You can even see the young employee doing it. It's just body language just pointing to the door.

[00:05:08]Uh Anita appears to move around her towards the teen. Her puts her hands up to block Anita from reaching the juvenile employee. And that's where people have concerns here because they believe that she pushed Anita first. And granted, even if she did, she's pushing her away because it looks like she's trying to get at the younger employee. But I'm going to show you something. And I think I'm going to show you something that that explains even more why her put her hands on on Anita Grayson. And I know there's many people here like she should never put her hands. Just let me explain and I'll show you the video. Let's not turn off to the other perspective before I show it.

[00:05:52]Um, Anita then forcefully shoves her backwards. 8:12 a.m. Anita strikes her in the face on the left side of her nose with her right hand. Her reacts by moving towards Anita and swinging her arm, striking back. A physical fight breaks out. During the struggle, Anita scratches her face, knocks off her glasses, grabs her by the hair, and pulls her to the floor, rolling on top of her. Two other employees attempt to separate them, but struggle because Anita will not let go of her's hair.

[00:06:18]Anita rips out a chunk of Her's hair, leaving a raw, bald spot on her scalp.

[00:06:22]The hair fails to uh the hair fails to falls the hair falls to the floor. Once separates staff retreat behind the counter, Anita sits at a table and makes a phone call. Anita later picks up the clump of hair from the floor and puts it into her bag. A detail police say is clearly visible on the surveillance video from what they seen. I don't see that in my video because I don't think I have the full version. Maybe one day it will get released. Uh but right now it doesn't look like that. I know the family is pushing for an unedited video from the police. The police say they edit some of the video down because they wanted to protect the rights of of Anita and her family because they didn't want to show someone dying on a video. So, they edited the video. Around 8:22 a.m., Anita lies down on the floor of the dining area. Horner notices, comes back out, checks on Anita, and brings her a cup of water. Another employee also checks on her. When the first officer arrives, Anita is unresponsive. Medics perform life-saving measures and transport to a hospital where she's pronounced dead. The Allen County Coroner's Office performed a preliminary autopsy and released a key finding. The autopsy found no significant contributo injuries tied to the altercation. Uh, in other words, they did not find obvious fatal trauma, no skull fracture, no massive internal bleeding clearly attributable to the fight. The cause and manner of death are still pending, waiting on toxicology and further analysis. That could mean a heart attack, stroke, or other medical events triggered by stress. But we don't have the final answer yet. Legally, this is huge. To charge serious offenses like battery resulting in death or reckless homicide, prosecutors must prove the fight caused the death. Right now, they don't have a clear medical evidence of that.

[00:07:55]Now, there's been a lot of speculation about whether first responders were slow. Here's the clarified timeline based on police and ambulance information. That's what we got. 8:13 a.m. a 911 calls placed reporting a battery at Tim Hortons. 8:15 a.m. Police officers are dispatched and in route. At the same time, Three River Ambulance Authority, that's TRAA, receives a call for 3975 Iceway. 8:24 a.m. So that's uh uh 11 minutes after the call. TRAA has an ambulance stage and waiting near the scene, ready to go in once police clear it for medic safety because remember it's a call of a battery. 8:26 a.m. the first police officers arrives about 13 minutes after the original 911 call.

[00:08:34]8:28 a.m. medics are with Anita Grayson inside the restaurant. TRAA executive director Joel Benz later confirms that they transport a patient in critical condition to a local hospital and cannot release more medical details because of privacy laws at HIPPA. Police say the response time was affected by high call volumes that morning. Nearby units were tied up on other calls, so officers from a different district had to respond. The call was dispatched as a priority, too.

[00:09:00]Battery just occurred, not a shooting or active life-threatening situation, which also affects how resources are assigned.

[00:09:06]So from the moment the fight is reported 8:13 to the time an officer steps through the door 8:26 we're looking at about 13 minute gap medics are hands on with a needed by 8:28. So right now the Allen County Prosecutor's Office has the case but it says it will make no charging decision until the full corner report is complete which they estimate will take 4 to 8 weeks from May 19th.

[00:09:25]That means as of now no arrest and no charges against August Horn or anyone else. Prosecutor's decision will turn on two issues. what the final autopsy and toxicology say about cause of death and whether they can overcome a likely self-defense or defense of another claim under Indiana stand your ground style law. Even if criminal charges never come, the family can still pursue civil action against Tim Hortons or others and civil right attorneys Lee Merritt has signaled that accountability is being pursued on that front.

[00:09:54]All right. Um, so since the video and full timeline came out, the reaction has split into two main camps. On one side, this is victim blaming. A 75-year-old woman is dead. So protesters march in Fort Wayne on May 20th with chants like no justice, no peace, and protect our elderly. City Councilman Raleigh Booker publicly called FWPD's framing victim blaming and said, "We have to we have got to do better. We have to treat each other better." and the family now supported by Lee Merritt argues that regardless of who threw the first punch. That's really regardless of who it's like you're minimizing the actions that caused it.

[00:10:32]Um, a 75-year-old woman should never end up dead after a coffee shop argument and someone must be held accountable. For many in the black community, the pattern of black grandmother dead, no arrest, official stressing her aggression feels painfully familiar. So again, you know, regardless of who threw the first punch, you can't, you know, you that matters because regardless of who threw the first punch, that matters to the other side who may have to defend their reaction. Um, but I know a lot of people think the the first contact came from her. Uh, that's not the case when I show you in the video. Not that what I see.

[00:11:08]Now, again, a lot of people are going to have confirmation bias. they're going to look at and minimize and negate anything that doesn't confirm what they already believe. But I'm asking you guys to be open because this is how I view it. And again, I'm not I do a lot of stuff on this channel. I try to be a voice for everyone. Um, but and I know I'm, you know, is becoming controversial and I get it, but at the end of the day, it's becoming controversial because the news released it with the false narrative.

[00:11:38]The truth is the truth. It just is what it is. This isn't my truth. It's what the video shows to be true.

[00:11:46]On the other side, the video shows she started the fight and the autopsy doesn't support beaten to death. So, the full surveillance clearly shows Anita shoving first and then punching the shift leader in the nose and then pulling her to the ground by the hair.

[00:11:59]So, I'm going to relate shove differently to a push. And that's fair because they're two.

[00:12:08]A a push is pushing someone away. A shove is aggressive.

[00:12:14]And you'll see the difference between a push and a shove. And I think that matters. I was focused on that a little bit. I didn't break that down last time.

[00:12:20]Um because I said in my second video that well she didn't push and then well maybe she did push her away and I was kind of going back and forth, but that's because if you look at a comparison between what she did to what Anita did, one's a push, one's a shove. I I I I'm going to show you what Anita did first that caused her to push and protect the 17-year-old and then she shoved her and then hit her. And granted, all before this, they're telling her to leave. And in the very first video, we talked about, you know, the owner's telling you to leave. That holds weight, too. And sad to say, if Anita was still alive, could she have been charged? And again, we explained it all in the last two videos. I don't want to revisit that, but just putting it out there. This is the first time you're watching me cover this. So, the full surveillance clearly shows Anita. Okay, we got that. Uh, her appears to be defending herself and a 17-year-old coworker using only her hands, and she later returns to check on Anita and give her water. The preliminary autopsy undercuts the social media claimed that Anita was literally beaten to death. Medically, there is no clear fatal injury from the fight so far. And under Indiana law, that combination, initial aggression by Anita, plus self-defense by her plus no clear fatal injury, makes a serious criminal charge hard to sustain. The daughter's Facebook clip is short, uh, cropped and emotional. It shows Anita taking blows, but not the shove and first punch. The police video is long, clear, and procedural. It shows the entire escalation and deescalation, and and now it's a matter of which video people believe drives where they land uh uh which video people believe drives where they land in the debate. So, again, it hurts because uh I I've seen this before where people don't like the outcome, they blame the system. I saw it with Brianna Aguilera's case where she did look like she killed herself and the reports are coming out that it looks that way, but they were mad at Austin PD and they were blaming everyone else because the people didn't want to accept what had happened. But there were suicide notes that she had written.

[00:14:11]Well, it was to a a class for a college professor. Well, who was the college professor that assigned that? And no one knows. I I I I I mean when people are giving you specifics and then they challenge it with a generality, you got to lean towards what the specifics are, you know, and and it just blaming the system because they don't give you the outcome you want is is because sometimes it's not the it's not the outcome. It's not the truth, you know, and then we have to ask, well, why would why would all these people be in cahoots? Why would, you know, at first it's the police, then it's the coroner's office. It's it's it's just let's just blame blame blame uh in the hopes eventually we get the narrative that we want and that that kind of falls in the confirmation bias.

[00:14:56]Um so some questions that that still have to be answered. People are asking why hasn't August Horner been charged yet? So because prosecutors are waiting on the final autopsy and have to deal with both a self-defense claim and a preliminary autopsy that found no significant contributo injuries. Well, she was 75. It doesn't matter.

[00:15:11]Self-defense is still self-defense.

[00:15:13]You're in my space.

[00:15:15]Does it matter legally that Anita shoved and punched first even though she was 75? Yes, for self-defense law. No. And no for how many people uh Well, yes for self-defense laws, but no for how many people feel uh morally.

[00:15:30]Did police and medics take too long to get there? Well, we now know 911 is at 8:13. Police arrived at 826. Medics reached her at 828 with high call volume and a priority 2 classification affecting response. If the fight didn't beat her to death, would actually kill Denita? We don't know yet. the final cause of death is pending and that's the single biggest unanswered question.

[00:15:48]Should an employee ever physically engage a 75-year-old customer or should they always call police and step away?

[00:15:53]That's a policy and ethics debate um that is is is really the center of this all. She had a right to defend herself.

[00:16:02]People like, "Oh, she's a 75." The girl got smacked in the face. She didn't know if the person was going to continue coming forward, so she went after to hold her hold her ground. and she has a right to defend herself. And by the way, as they're squaring on the ground, she had active hold of her hair. Anita had clumps of her hair, which later was seen on the floor when she let it go after they struggled with Anita to let go of that hair.

[00:16:29]you know, this is just it's so obvious, but because of that false narrative, people don't want to see it or they're giving it excuses or they're giving it um justifications or I would say justifications now because it relates more to a belief when at the end it's really an excuse where if it would have came out another way first, the excuses would have would have been pushed on.

[00:16:50]That's not an excuse. She pulled her hair and put in the bag. Why? Because she said she was defending herself. No, Anita pulled her hair out. Anita's wrong. But because everybody's already believing in the narrative that was put out originally and they don't want to see Anita as a victim, they're justifying her wrong actions because it's now a belief where if we didn't have that false narrative, those same beliefs would be an excuse or the same justifications would be an excuse.

[00:17:16]Uh is the daughter's edited clip misinformation or a valid expression of grief factually incomplete, emotionally honest, and powerful enough that police felt compelled to counter it with a full tape? And if the prosecutor ultimately declines to file charges, is that justice or proof that systems don't well unfortunately saying protect elders and black women. And that's the conversation this case is forcing Fort Wayne and now the country to have because it it it turned into a bunch of things which make this case more controversial only because it's crossing into well this is a black verse white thing. It just it's just it's it's it's it's going into so many different narratives that in my mind and I'm not being rude uh and please don't take it this way, but becomes distraction to what is actually shown on that video.

[00:18:00]Let's let's not get lost and confused in everything that's out there right now.

[00:18:05]Let's just look at what the video shows you. I will give you a perspective. I'll I'll try it one more time and whether you believe it or not, it's really not.

[00:18:11]But let me just I feel the need to just do it again. Uh, and then hopefully I could step back from this one because this is my third video uh, breaking down this video. So, let me go ahead and get the video.

[00:18:30]I literally had to tell, you know, people are like, "Oh, racist." And all this other stuff. It's like, guys, watch my videos. I'm not racist, you know, it's a perspective. But I I honestly think based on my experience and I review videos, guys, if if I was in court, and this was I was a jury member, I would I would clearly have to sadly put the 75-year-old as an aggressor. And people like, "Well, how could a 75-year-old be an aggressor?"

[00:18:52]Well, watch the video and you could see it. You can't go by age and minimize what someone's done. At the end of the day, you know, you can't minimize what they've done because the people that are are now being held accountable or people are trying to hold them accountable are reacting to what they've done. So, you can't say what that one guy says.

[00:19:09]Doesn't matter who threw the first punch. It 100% matters. That's what the law says. It matters. Of course, it matters. Okay. Hold on one second. All right. So, I I don't want to I've done this video a few times, so bear with me.

[00:19:25]So, this is when she comes in. It's 8:09, closer to 8:10, but she comes in.

[00:19:32]She's upset for a drive-through order. I get it. probably upset that she had to come out of her car. I mean, the point is she already came on site and she's not coming on site to order something new. She's coming on site to deal with something related to her order. So, she's trying to find the person responsible for her order. Now, I don't know what interaction happened before that. I'm assuming it's just a problem with her drive-through order.

[00:20:00]Um, but either way, she's out of her car, probably not not happy about that, and she's trying to now get the attention of a worker.

[00:20:19]So, obviously, she's waiting. Again, as I said in the other video, not that big of a deal right now. I mean, body language, nothing. It's just she's waiting.

[00:20:28]So now you got Now I want to I want to go to the upper left real quick. There's an employee working on something. So she stops. She walks over.

[00:20:43]Now she's positioned herself instead of on the side. She's now moving towards where you could get in the swinging door and she could see the employee directly now. So, she's putting herself in a better position to see the employee.

[00:20:58]Again, nothing aggressive here. Just she's moving towards um the side there, which is you have a swinging door. So, she they're not being protected by the counter anymore.

[00:21:10]There's a swinging door in which staff go in and out of. So, that that that does matter. She's not doesn't have the counter blocking her.

[00:21:20]She is in front of a swinging door, which would allow her, if she went through it, to get closer to the employee.

[00:21:42]There's definitely some verbal exchange here.

[00:21:56]So, now I want I want to show you guys something because it does matter. Look at the gesture from the 17-year-old.

[00:22:06]She's got her hands pushing down and and that's a that's a that's a pretty much understood gesture to kind of calm down. Now, when you're upset, unfortunately, that that gesture could come out as uh condescending or whatever it is, but it's usually, you know, an effort. You know, the employee is just trying to say, "Calm down. Whatever the issue is, calm down. Calm down." Um, but right now, she's not. And the pointing uh could be seen as aggressive because she's pointing directly into the face of that employee.

[00:22:46]So now I just want to be fair here. Let me just zoom in real quick myself. This is calm down. I'm not in that person's space. Calm down. Calm down. This is different.

[00:23:00]So if you look at two things, if you look at one person pointing like this and the other person going like this, person like this is always going to be seen as someone who is uh considered the aggressor. Now I don't know the verbal exchange right now. We don't know. But what I could assume is and it always going to be assumption. This is probably going along with calm down. Um I'll talk to you just you got to calm down. You're a little aggressive right now. Mind you, when you're upset, you're probably not hearing that at all. You know, it's like, who the hell are you to tell me to calm down? I'm a 75 year old woman, blah blah blah. You're a little kid. You don't tell me what to do. I mean, that could be a picture. We don't know. I'm just adding. But this right here, the gesture is calm down. Calm down. And I I I think if you're upset and you're an older woman, you may not want to listen to that. I'm not listening to a young kid telling me to calm down. Who the hell are you to tell me to calm down?

[00:23:55]You know, so now she's going to keep on reiterating, calm down. Calm down. Uh, when she feels that the older woman's not calming down, she made her effort.

[00:24:03]Now you can leave. You're not calming down. You're you're you're aggrav you're you're frustrated, so you can leave. And these are efforts to deescalate.

[00:24:12]Calm down. Calm down. I'm not Who are you to tell me to calm down? But back and forth. Okay. Well, you're not calm down. I'm going to have to ask you to leave.

[00:24:21]I'm asking you to leave. Now, at that point, that that that shifts the battle there because at that point when she asked her to leave, now she's in the store and and the owner has the right to refuse service.

[00:24:31]So, uh Russ on my very first show I did this explained that a little bit too as well.

[00:24:38]That does matter, guys. And she asked to leave. I know some people like, "Well, the customer is always right." Yeah.

[00:24:44]Okay, stop.

[00:24:49]So, you can see the gesture. I just want to show it again. Calm down. calm down.

[00:24:53]And she like she's not calming down.

[00:24:58]So now she's telling her, you know what, if you don't want to calm down, you can leave. I think there's two gestures here. There's a calm down gesture with also pointing to the door. So I'm thinking, you know, here's the option.

[00:25:10]You know, you're not calming down. So if you don't want to calm down, you can leave because you can see both. Calm down or you can leave. Listen. Calm down or you can leave. That's it. Now you can go. Now what happened was the manager gets involved. So, just to go back.

[00:25:25]Look, you got the calm down gestures and then calm down or you can leave. And then eventually, you know what? It's done. You got to go. Now, the manager kind of taps her out and she basically says, "Okay, you could step back and I'll handle it because maybe there was something said here that the manager felt, let me step up because obviously this woman's not listening. So, I'm I'm going to have to show support to my employee and uh let me go ahead and uh see, you know, get her out of the store cuz now they're not even trying to uh calm her down. They just want her out of the store. Now, this is something that's important here.

[00:26:06]Look at how close she gets to the 17-year-old. And her finger is aggressively pointing forward. Guys, that matters. She's walking towards this door which can open. The manager is now in the middle. So, she's going to move closer. She's getting right into the employees face. Whether there was contact there, I I don't know. But now she's telling her, "You got to go." So, she's protecting her employees. She's not aggressing right now. Here is where I think contact was made right there. And I don't know why people aren't noticing it. Watch her. And as you look to the employee when she comes around the other side of her, I think she touches the the 17-year-old and that's what causes her to push her back.

[00:26:55]And I'm okay with saying push today as my last video. I was on the fence with it because I'm going to push to shove. I have a comparison word. So watch.

[00:27:05]I think she touched her there because that's what causes the manager to move in and put her hands on her. I think she touched the 17-y old there.

[00:27:15]Right here.

[00:27:16]Boom. Because the 17-y old goes back.

[00:27:19]She gets in the middle and then she continues to move forward. Now guys, look at that. She's holding her in place because the older woman is trying to move forward.

[00:27:32]That touch is literally she's allowed to do that. Then of course, okay, she shoves her off.

[00:27:40]She shoves her off. But guys, this first hands-on is to protect that employee because I think she had contact with that employee right here.

[00:27:52]And at that point, she got in the middle because she's still trying to get around. Then she pushes her off. Then she gets in the way of her employees.

[00:28:00]Now, mind you guys, when she pushed her off, it leaves opening between her and the seven-year-old. So, she got right back in the middle. She she got in her face and she smacks her. Now guys, this is multiple times after telling her to leave the store. Um, you know, I I do think she aggressively uh uh whether everybody else is saying try to calm down, calm down. Uh she's putting her fingers in the girl's face and I think she touched her and that's what caused the employee to move forward. I don't think there's a bait there and I don't know why the media isn't saying that. I was watching this other guy the other day and he didn't mention that. Either way, she uh gets and then she gets smacked.

[00:28:42]That's the assault. That's 100% an assault.

[00:28:45]And now she's fighting. And the reason why she's fighting, guys, is because one, she just got assaulted. So, it's an emotional reaction. We all would probably be want if you got hit in the face. Plus, she doesn't know if the person's still a threat.

[00:29:01]She's literally doing this to protect the other employee because, as you can see, she tried to get to her. If she wasn't in the middle, have we asked ourselves what would have happened? If her didn't come out and get in between these two, have we asked oursel what would have happened? That's a question that needs to be asked because that tells you what she's reacting to. And for for that civil rights guy, whatever is to say regardless of who threw the first punch, no, you're not going to do that. That minimizes um the reaction from the other side that they're going to need to JUSTIFY THEIR POSITION. THAT STATEMENT'S a very unfair position.

[00:29:36]Oh, who cares who shot at who first? You know, you don't do that. That all matters because that's context. You can't throw away context because you want to achieve a narrative. He knows by saying that it gets the narrative and you can't you have to look at that because her move is a defensive posture to get her away from the other girl. She smacked her after she did that. That's an assault.

[00:30:02]So now as they go at it, she gets a hold of the girl's hair. Now guys, this is just she's got a hold of the girl's hair.

[00:30:18]And now it's a struggle right now to free the hair from Anita Grayson. Oh, they're jumping her. No, no, no. They're not jumping her. They're doing what they can to get Anita Grayson's hands off of her's hair. Hero was scalped. It's extremely painful. That struggle right there is to get Grayson's hands off of the hair of her 100%. Because there I I've been involved in in in in fights like this. I worked at a female facility where you had to separate people. And it's a careful separation because you know if you pull too far apart it scalps. So you kind of get in closer and then try to control the hand before you pull anybody away because you don't want scalping is painful from what I heard.

[00:31:11]So this right here is the the back and forth is because if you notice here they are trying to pull her away but the grasp on her hair is making it a concern. She got one person probably trying to get her hands off and then the other person trying to safely pull her away.

[00:31:31]It's right here, man.

[00:31:34]One person trying to get the hands off.

[00:31:36]There it is. And the other person like, "Come on, let her go. Come on, let her go. Let her go. Come on." And they take her away. They're breaking it up. But sadly, her got scalped.

[00:31:51]There's the hair that fell out of her hand. That circle right there is extremely important. The police are telling you right now, you can't minimize that. You can't overlook that.

[00:32:04]That's the reason why they were on the floor. And I don't have the video, but the police will later release the video of her putting that in her bag. The consciousness of guilt.

[00:32:14]They even gave a water at the end.

[00:32:19]That employee is in serious pain.

[00:32:22]Horner, she got scalp and then we already know what happens after.

[00:32:36]Police were already called at this point because the police were called around 8:13.

[00:32:41]So, they were already called and I I believe the police were were called probably from I'm assuming the police were called by Tim Horton's uh employees.

[00:32:52]But guys, we we I get it. There's a false narrative, but but but guys, you got to learn to see things as they are.

[00:32:58]I mean, that's clearly right there. And and and and I know we you know, even we see that we're going to find ways to give people the excuses so we can stay with our narrative, but at the end, that's what they are. They're excuses.

[00:33:10]And if this ever goes to trial, I I can't picture them convicting her.

[00:33:17]She was defending herself, defending the employee, and then she got caught with a clump of hair.

[00:33:22]You know, the the lady took a clump of her hair out.

[00:33:26]You know, sadly, she passed. She passed maybe medical conditions, but maybe she had those medical conditions. I don't want to put anything out, but maybe she should be careful on how she reacts to others or how upset she gets if order gets wrong.

[00:33:40]I see staff going like this, but I could picture it thinking that's condescending, but they're telling you, "Hey, stop. I got this. I'm not taking orders from you." I could picture that.

[00:33:49]And there goes the pointing because as soon as I say it, I picture my every time you I can picture myself pointing.

[00:33:54]But she tried to get to that girl and management got in between. And I want to just ask if management did not push her because I'm going to say push as opposed to shove. I'll do a little say a little something different than than I did my last video. Push opposed to shove because she pushed her to get away. What would have happened? And this is a fair question. If her wasn't in the middle, she was coming for that employee.

[00:34:16]And I think that's a question that if I was a lawyer, I would ask. I don't see this. I don't think there's going to be charges. And I know the community is going to be in an uproar, whatever it is. And it's sad to see that. But guys, what's fair is fair. There's no victim blaming here. It's a bad circumstance all around. But in the end, the people that reacted are not the bad people here. the aggressor. I I see it. I know it's a seven. I get all that, but that doesn't negate the fact that she still came in and, you know, touched that employee first, manager separated, then she shoved the manager, then she hit the manager, then they go down the floor and she pulled the clump of the manager's hair.

[00:35:00]The narrative was painted by someone emotional to the family. I get it.

[00:35:05]But sometimes the emotion blinds you from the truth.

[00:35:08]And now it gets to the point where you blame the whole system and everything as if everybody was just wanted Tim Horton uh employees not to be found guilt.

[00:35:16]We're all in on it. And now people have put on racist all this other stuff because that that's the argument now because the video is so clear. Let's attack the credibility of the people that see it differently than I do.

[00:35:30]That's not fair, guys. We're all allowed to have a perspective. You know, you take the context of the of the of the videos I produce. They're very fair.

[00:35:38]They're objective. I try to be sometimes, most of the time, but there are some videos that I'm I'm not perfect, but this case here, I I I'm I'm on the side of Tim Hortons and the employees.

[00:35:57]Um, it's a perspective and I'm on the side of what's right. And in my mind, that it's not a perfect situation. Obviously, someone died, but you you want to charge a 20-year-old for murder or whatever it is, whatever the charge is, that's what you want.

[00:36:24]Where where's the fairness in that? If she was just defending the other employee again, if she wasn't there in the middle, do we think Anita would have went after the 17-year-old?

[00:36:38]Just food for thought. Guys, like the content, buy me a cup of coffee. Links in the description as well, top of YouTube channel. Stay safe. Hope this interpretation uh allows for people to see things at least more fairly.

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