The KTM 790 engine, which shares its design with the CFMOTO 800 series, is prone to hydraulic tensioner failures that can cause catastrophic engine damage including snapped valves, damaged cylinder heads, and punctured pistons; this failure mode affects both European and Chinese motorcycles that use this engine design, highlighting the importance of proper engine warm-up procedures and the reliability of Japanese components like the FCC slipper clutch used in these engines.
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Is the KTM 790 Engine Reliable? Shocking Damage Found Inside!Added:
In this episode, we’re tearing down a KTM 790 engine.
This machine is the DNA behind the CFMOTO 800 series.
It’s also the root of the Kove 800.
In fact, others have been copying this engine design lately.
So, you tell me—is it a masterpiece or what?
This one uses a slipper clutch.
European bikes using Japanese FCC clutches— even BMW does it.
This clutch... the whole assembly uses an anodic oxidation process.
Uh, the clutch plates actually look fine.
Because of the deep partnership between CFMOTO and KTM, CFMOTO’s 800 engine is essentially this exact machine.
Just with a different badge.
The internal components are identical.
You can check my August teardown video of the 800MT.
As for the fault with this unit, the owner reported abnormal noise and a misfire (cylinder drop).
Hearing that, I started suspecting the hydraulic tensioner was acting up.
Take a look at the camshaft bearing cap.
There are some slight marks, but it feels smooth to the touch.
Just a quick soak and a rub with 2000-grit sandpaper will do.
Now let's look at the corresponding camshaft.
Visually, the camshaft surface looks like it’s been scored, but you don’t really feel much when touching it.
This is a lightweight alloy steel camshaft.
European bikes have always used high-quality materials for their engines.
The intake lobes don't have any major issues.
You can see some wear marks on the camshaft seat here, but it's not a big deal.
It won't affect performance.
Since these camshaft rockers rely on these oil jets for spray-type lubrication, when the weather is cold, it's the same old rule: Warm up the engine.
Otherwise, the camshafts and rockers will suffer from accelerated wear.
Removing the cylinder head... Look at this—one valve has snapped off completely, and it's absolutely trashed the valve seat.
The remaining three valves are toast as well.
It’s a pretty brutal sight.
Fortunately, it’s repairable.
I'll get four new valves and press in a new seat.
This is what it looks like after the repair.
After all, a KTM cylinder head is way too expensive.
I’ll lap the valves, then clean up the combustion chamber a bit to make it look decent.
Look at this piston.
There’s no fixing this— it has to be replaced.
The cylinder is gone too.
I’ll have to install a sleeve.
This hydraulic tensioner... how many engines has it ruined?
Once it fails intermittently, this is exactly what happens.
I bet quite a few KTM 790 owners have been hit by this.
Look at the magneto rotor; that’s also Japanese.
So when some people complain about Chinese bikes using Japanese parts, there’s really nothing to complain about.
Even European bikes use them.
Why shouldn't Chinese bikes use them, right?
The CFMOTO 800 engine was essentially provided by KTM.
However, the core ECU tuning wasn't shared with CFMOTO.
So, between the 800NK and the 790 Duke, the gap between them lies in that specific tuning.
This is why CFMOTO has been emphasizing lately that their main focus going forward is "refining the tune."
They’ve realized it themselves.
Look at these bearings.
No issues here.
They’re good for continued use.
Removing the balancer shaft.
No wear on the balancer shaft either.
No need to check the transmission shafts— these things almost never break.
Check this out: it’s a 285-degree crankshaft.
It’s different from a 180-degree and different from a 270-degree.
Both the 790 and the BMW 850 use 285-degree cranks.
This crank is a one-piece forged alloy steel crankshaft.
Like I said, European bikes usually "max out" the engine specs.
They give you everything you’d want.
Hence the price of the spare parts, and the price of the bike... well, you get the point.
Looking at the crankshaft, you can tell the owner wasn't exactly gentle with it.
But then again, I shouldn't say that.
This machine isn't meant to be ridden gently anyway.
It’s built for aggressive riding.
This looks okay.
It feels smooth to the touch.
Not really worn out, just normal signs of use.
Same for the bearing shells.
Alright, let's look at the main bearings.
They all show normal wear.
They can definitely be reused, no problem at all.
These are copper-based bearings.
As for the MT brand, I'm not sure what bearings they use.
Someone told me before that they use Mahle— German Mahle bearings.
Let's pull the piston out and have a look.
This one is perfectly fine.
This piston and the rings are still good to go.
These fracture-split connecting rods are actually made in China.
Even if it's not a CKD (local assembly) version, the rods on the imported versions are ours too.
So don't say our components aren't up to par.
And this crankshaft— BMW, KTM, and others are all using them.
These are all Gangyang crankshafts from Jiangsu.
Since CFMOTO released the 800, KTM 790 parts prices have become much more affordable.
For this piston, we’ll just use a CFMOTO 800 replacement.
The old MT ones are identical to this.
You could say they’re exactly the same part.
Look, this side is punctured right through.
Now look at the cylinder.
The assembly video will be in the next episode.
If you enjoyed this, please give it a like.
Thanks for watching!
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