Is It Sinful to Get a Massage?

Added: 2026-05-06

[00:00:00]I think he should just start off with massage chairs.

[00:00:03]Stay away from massage places for a while.

[00:00:05]>> [laughter] >> Just Just be at home and just like, "Okay."

[00:00:13]Okay, so I saw this Reddit thread randomly and I thought it was just too good to not present to you guys and get your actual opinions on what you think this is. So, this is from the Reddit uh true Christian and is a very serious uh >> [laughter] >> Did you say true Christian?

[00:00:31]>> I already know it's going to be goofy.

[00:00:32]Is that better than Christian?

[00:00:34]Like there's a it's a slash if it's verified Christian.

[00:00:37]>> Slash true Christian?

[00:00:38]>> Yeah, so So, these are I had to double double-check to like make sure that like, "Okay, are these like satirical uh threads?" They're completely not.

[00:00:45]They're like real Christian threads and everyone in here is very serious. So, this guy uh basically the tagline is is a massage without a happy ending sinful? Is it? Massage without a >> Yeah, why did he even have to add that?

[00:01:02]Why Why can't he just say is a massage sinful?

[00:01:05]>> tell you why. This is what he writes, okay? This is him. I'm going to read it word for word. He said, "This is >> more. [clears throat] >> Yeah, he said, "This is my confession.

[00:01:11]Let me explain my history. I used to attend those sorts of massage parlors. I used to get a male Brazilian wax plus a massage with inappropriate ending.

[00:01:23]That was a few years ago. I haven't had a massage >> I'm so sorry.

[00:01:27]>> [laughter] >> I've never heard it called an inappropriate ending.

[00:01:32]Which one is He ordered it that way?

[00:01:34]>> [laughter] >> The inappropriate [clears throat] >> I want you guys to know that when you get a Brazilian, you're not supposed to do anything sexual. That's how you clog your pores.

[00:01:42]I know he had razor but he had ingrowns like a mug, bro. I just know it.

[00:01:46]>> Probably wasn't looking good. So, he hasn't had a massage or that type of waxing that does the front in some time while I've been trying to grow in Christ, is what he says.

[00:01:56]He's on vacation and he's in a place where you can get legit spa treatments a lot cheaper than you can in Western countries. One night I had a Brazilian wax for the first time in a while, but I'm wondering why I even bothered. I'm not married to anyone. I wondered if there's some part of me enjoying being exposed, which I admit is perverse and I do not want to be that person. Watching all of these Epstein files come out made me question if I'm any different, but I don't fully understand my intention. I mostly think it's because I want to be clean. I do get armpits done regularly, too. I'm not a fan of body hair, but because my past waxes have resulted in me being sinful, I think my intentions are all muddled up. Sexual sin with another person did not happen, but if there was adultery in the heart >> Yeah, this [ __ ] is a pervert.

[00:02:43]That's why. It doesn't matter what you're doing.

[00:02:46]>> [laughter] >> Uh he's a writer and a pervert.

[00:02:50]>> was a pervert. It's like you don't got to commit sin to be a sinner. It's like a pedophile at the playground. If you're imagining crazy [ __ ] get the [ __ ] out of the playground, dude.

[00:03:02]>> did the Epstein files make him be like, "Oh"? Cuz he knows.

[00:03:05]>> He's like, "That changes everything."

[00:03:06]>> doing the waxing? I'm trying to figure out.

[00:03:08]>> getting a like a non-sexual regular ass massage, but if he's thinking the craziest thoughts, you're a sinner.

[00:03:17]>> [laughter] >> You're a sinner.

[00:03:20]Who even said that?

[00:03:21]>> Aren't we all sinners and it's the choice not to act upon it that makes you But I get intrusive thoughts and I don't even want to do it.

[00:03:29]>> Yeah.

[00:03:29]>> That's That's what I'm saying. Wasn't that the whole Isn't that the whole conversation? Randomly intrusive thoughts where you just like you're you're at a restaurant and then like a uncle brings out a bowl and you look over and then you're like, "Man, what if he just like kissed me on the forehead right now?"

[00:03:44]>> What? That's the intrusive thought? I HAVE RANDOM ONES.

[00:03:48]I HAVE RANDOM ONES.

[00:03:49]>> [laughter] >> YOUR DEFENSE I HAVE RANDOM ONES.

[00:03:55]>> [laughter] >> BART TOLD ME THAT HE'D BE DOING JUJITSU WITH people and then he goes, "What if we just make out real hard right now?"

[00:04:06]>> Everyone thinks that in jujitsu.

[00:04:08]>> Oh. I'd be in the gay marine.

[00:04:11]>> [laughter] >> It's part of the service, yeah.

[00:04:14]>> It's jujitsu.

[00:04:16]>> [laughter] >> SO, HE SAYS >> I don't even want to do it. It's just crazy thoughts. It's just kooky guy.

[00:04:23]>> I think this guy is getting it mixed up as desire.

[00:04:26]>> Oh, okay. But I But But he said that he didn't have the thoughts, right?

[00:04:30]>> tempted, but he's he's trying to stave off >> So, when his ass is in the air while the guy's like Brazilian waxing his butt hole and and whatever Yeah. But then he wants the Wait, is it a girl? I thought it was a guy doing it for him.

[00:04:43]>> So, he says, "Nothing sexual happened.

[00:04:44]The girl seemed young, though, maybe around 20s. I can't tell. Uh he says, "My mind did keep drifting to sexual thoughts, which I battled.

[00:04:53]Some I entertained longer than I should have.

[00:04:56]>> every 4 weeks. I have never felt like, "Oh, I just want to Oh, I want to scissor so bad." I never thought that.

[00:05:02][laughter] I'm like, "Oh, this [ __ ] hurts. Get away from me." That's how I feel. I don't feel like I want to [ __ ] when I >> Have you guys ever gotten a Brazilian?

[00:05:10]>> done that, no.

[00:05:11]>> No, but I've been massaged naked before.

[00:05:14]>> [laughter] >> You got the happy ending? No.

[00:05:17]I was at a Korean spa and then this uncle was massaging me and he goes, "Take everything off. It's Okay." AND I WAS LIKE, "OKAY." AND I took my [ __ ] potty time everything off. I was butt ass naked. He was [ __ ] No, I mean your stress your problems are outside.

[00:05:34][laughter] Take it off. Keep your clothes on. Metaphors, stupid.

[00:05:39]>> [laughter] [laughter] >> All right. So, intrusive thoughts, though, because I wasn't turned on, but I was like, "Dude, my ass is open right now. He could just start [ __ ] me like hard. I can't do anything." I HAVE RANDOM ONES.

[00:05:55]>> [laughter] >> ALL RIGHT, THOSE AREN'T SINFUL THOUGHTS.

[00:05:59]HE HAS sinful thoughts.

[00:06:00]>> It's worrying thoughts. Well, what I will say, I think sometimes Christians do too much. Like >> [laughter] >> I think they do too much. Like Okay, you had a thought. Okay, that's the end of it.

[00:06:11]That's it. It's the end of it. You didn't do it. Great. Lovely. You're probably just in That's just comfortable for you. So, anything is comfortable you're going to your body's going to default, right? So, that's why you felt that way. You might not want to do it.

[00:06:21]Okay, that's fine. You didn't do it.

[00:06:22]>> biological reaction to what's happening.

[00:06:24]That That is literally all It's It's It doesn't It could be sinful if you wanted it to be, but it's really not that You didn't have to write about Epstein, too, though. That was what That's the only thing that's jarring.

[00:06:34]>> Writing about it was already like, "Hmm." And then you had to like say that and you're like, "Why Where were you there? What? How did that get there?"

[00:06:41]>> Kim going like, "I think I enjoy cough [clears throat] syrup a little bit too much. Kind of reminds me of El Chapo a little bit." You know, like, "What the [ __ ] bro?"

[00:06:48]You're [ __ ] crazy.

[00:06:50]>> Maybe he did it to like make it seem like he's not that bad.

[00:06:52]>> Oh, yeah, that's true. You throw that in there. Yeah.

[00:06:55]Mhm, yeah.

[00:06:56]>> That's about children. He could have said Diddy. He could have said I don't know when this was written, but he could have said about anybody else.

[00:07:02]>> months ago. Oh, [ __ ] Well, yeah.

[00:07:05]>> know how crazy the the Christian guilt can get, though. Can snowball. Like that small little sin can like, "Ooh, if I violated this, am I violating that?" And then like >> It's all internal. That's the reason why I fought being gay for so long. For so long.

[00:07:20]>> fight it? I Because I was like It was literally in church like Well, my pastor was homosexual. So, he would speak against homosexuality.

[00:07:28]>> Hold on. How did that happen? Yeah.

[00:07:29][laughter] How did you know he was homosexual?

[00:07:31]>> Cuz he would talk about it. Oh.

[00:07:32]>> Yeah. When I was doing the BENDING THE GOD SAID, >> [laughter] >> "DON'T Y'ALL BE BENDING." NO, THEY DIDN'T. "BEND BEND FOR THE LORD." They always find a way to make it SEXUAL ABOUT JESUS.

[00:07:44]>> [laughter] >> "BEND FOR THE LORD."

[00:07:46]>> FOR THE LORD IS THAT'S WHAT HE SAID, "BEND FOR THE LORD?" JESUS, and he breaks out into song. "Bend for the Lord" is really good. "No, bend Bend for the Lord" [laughter] is nuts.

[00:07:58]But like he would talk about like like he's been very anti-homosexual like you know, he's moved past it and he's like >> Oh. So, me as a kid >> Oh, so he's he's like he's like the guy that was like, "I am delivered." YOU'RE LIKE, "TYPE SHIT."

[00:08:11]YOU SEEN that video where he's like, "I'M NOT GAY NO MORE." I LIKE WOMEN. I LIKE WOMEN NOW.

[00:08:18]I'M DELIVERED. IT'S LIKE maybe I think he went backwards.

[00:08:23]Yeah, definitely. He's back.

[00:08:25]Your pastor probably would double back, too. Most of them pastors be gay as hell, anyway.

[00:08:29]>> Yeah, there was an article [laughter] that came out about like a church friend of ours who apparently was like he was being groomed at 23.

[00:08:37]>> [laughter] >> 23? That's a little too old to be groomed, though.

[00:08:40]>> It depends on how old the groomer is.

[00:08:42]>> Oh, 60?

[00:08:43]>> [laughter] >> Yeah, that makes sense, huh? It's It's a relativity thing. Power dynamics. Yeah, I think so. I think so. I could I think you could be groomed at 20. I was kind of dumb. So, >> [laughter] >> I was easily groomable if somebody had gotten to me.

[00:08:56]>> I was pretty stupid, too.

[00:08:57]>> But that Was that all he said? No, so he keeps going. He goes, "Again, no sexual services happened, but I'm guessing my heart wasn't purely looking for relaxation and even though I didn't want sexual services to happen, I did fly close to enemy lines. I [laughter] felt a lot of guilt after that.

[00:09:14]>> would talk like this?

[00:09:14]>> I prayed for mercy and apologized to God for what I did. Yeah, he's a gay marine.

[00:09:19]Apologize to God. I'm so sorry I had a relaxing massage.

[00:09:22]>> So, then here's how he ends it. Here Here's how he ends it and this is like where where the question lies. So, he says, "I'm wondering if this is sensuality, which could be sinful. Uh does anyone get massages with a clear conscience afterwards? Should Christians avoid anything that is touching or sensual?" What the [ __ ] What does that have to do with his association in the past with getting jacked off at a Brazilian wax?

[00:09:46]Everyone that goes to get a massage, you don't think, "I'm going to [ __ ] the [ __ ] out of my masseuse." But But then But then like if this is a guy who used to do that. He used to get full service.

[00:09:55]Yeah, but the rest of us don't feel sexual when we're there.

[00:09:58]>> Is it sinful for him to continue to get massages because of what he used to do at massages? It's like telling an alcoholic you can't go into a bar and grill. Like Oh, yeah. You You resist the temptation. It's in your brain, but you're not acting on it.

[00:10:10]>> But if you believe in your God and your God will deliver you from this, then then you could walk into those those places where you feel tempted and not do anything cuz your God got you, right?

[00:10:19]Sounds like his trust isn't fully into God. Like he That's what it sound like to me. I say Say that. But you're not even a true Christian for real. As a as a preacher's granddaughter Yeah, you [ __ ] be on there. They be talking about God, but y'all be scared of everything. Like if your God really got you, you good.

[00:10:35]>> He's He doesn't have the strength in his soul. I think he should just start off with massage chairs.

[00:10:40]Stay away from massage places for a while. Just Just be at home and just like, "Okay."

[00:10:45]>> [laughter] >> Asian man at the mall ready to massage you. You can't pull your dick out at the mall.

[00:10:51]Yeah, the the chairs are like this. His next His next Reddit post though is like, "Is it sinful to love inanimate massage chairs?"

[00:10:58]>> [laughter] >> I think that's fine. That's fine. What are the people saying on Reddit? Well, um like this person says, here y'all You guys see it. So, um this person says, "We have to flee from what tempts us."

[00:11:08]So, all the people giving advice are also within this Christian thread. So, they're not like making jokes.

[00:11:13]"I have to avoid certain shows and games that aren't a trigger for other Christians." Shows and games, damn.

[00:11:19]There's no need He's like, "FUCK, I CAN'T WATCH I CAN'T watch Somebody said, "You can easily cheaply shave using a standard safety razor."

[00:11:28]>> [laughter] >> I'm sorry. I I just I just feel like there's so many rules. Like there's so many constraints on your your your your religion that you can't God forbid you want to relax.

[00:11:37]Is he looking for a loophole? Cuz it just sounds like >> He might be. Cuz to me it's simple. It's like if you're if it's tempting you, stop.

[00:11:45]That's all it is. You don't have to act on it.

[00:11:48]>> Yeah. If If it's a trigger, stay away from the trigger. You have to pay to be here. No. Look at this is the best advice here. Playing with my >> [laughter] >> I also want everyone to know it is not typical to get a happy ending at the massage. LIKE >> [laughter] >> THAT DOES NOT come with the massages.

[00:12:05]He's finding a special >> You have to find that. You have to find that. massages I've had, nobody was like extra? Like, "Hello. Want me to play with your cat?" No one ever going to the dentist and getting a [ __ ] Like why would you That doesn't make any sense.

[00:12:19]No one goes there for that.

[00:12:20]>> think it's the same, but yes. [laughter] No, it's illegal. I never gone to the dentist for a [ __ ] I would love going to the dentist.

[00:12:29]You go bust A NUT AFTER?

[00:12:31]>> [laughter] >> WELL, YOU'RE ALREADY IN THE POSITION.

[00:12:36]Get your cavities, then you bust a nut, and then you leave with a lollipop.

[00:12:39]That's dope, bro.

[00:12:41]>> [laughter] >> After your face is numb, everyone's always going to have cavities.

[00:12:45]Uh doc, I got this cavity of >> [laughter] >> That's my friend, too. They're like, "All right, I'll suck you off."

[00:12:51]Just use the [ __ ] thing.

[00:12:53]Oh, yeah.

[00:12:55]Oh my god. [laughter] Yeah.

[00:12:57]>> Let us know in the comments below what you guys think of this situation. Is it sinful to get a regular massage if you have a history of getting the non-typical ones?

[00:13:06]As Jasmine says. Yeah. I would Yeah.

[00:13:09]Yeah.

[00:13:10]>> [laughter]