Philbro thinks math proves god

追加: 2026-05-11

[00:00:00]Hansel, let's get you in here.

[00:00:01]Appreciate you for being patient.

[00:00:03]>> Hey, what's up, man?

[00:00:04]>> Hey, how you doing, brother? Are you over the age of 18?

[00:00:06]>> Yes, I am.

[00:00:07]>> Okay. Which religion you follow?

[00:00:09]>> Uh, Islam.

[00:00:10]>> Islam. Okay. What you got for us?

[00:00:12]>> Uh, first thing I wanted to ask you a little question on something that you said um about the pendulum.

[00:00:18]>> You said there's going to be like a yes or no on a paper. Yeah.

[00:00:20]>> And you swing the pendulum. Well, it depends. Like if you're holding the pendulum directly over either a yes or a no, then ultimately it would stop and like a yes on that specific thing that you're holding it over.

[00:00:30]>> Well, so the way that I do it is like I hold it super still just up like this and then it'll start going clockwise or counterclockwise.

[00:00:37]>> That that's because that's because your hand starts moving slightly.

[00:00:40]>> Correct.

[00:00:41]>> Okay. So you think that that's like some sort of intuition to like make it a conclusion like yesterday?

[00:00:46]>> It's sub it's subconscious. Yeah. It's subconscious micro movement.

[00:00:49]>> Is the physical movement of your hand?

[00:00:51]Yes, it's sub caused by the subconscious and micro movements. Yes.

[00:00:55]>> Yeah. All right. Whatever. Uh, by the way, >> what the [ __ ] kind of attitude is this for, dude? I'm just giving you an honest answer based in psychology.

[00:01:02]>> When you say when you say that, um, now I'm going to go back to another thing.

[00:01:04]You said when you said something can come from if something can come from nothing. We don't know necessarily if it's going to be a god. Um, it would necessarily fall, then an all powerful mind would be the creator of something.

[00:01:14]>> That's not necessarily true.

[00:01:15]>> Oh, that is true.

[00:01:18]>> Yep. Why couldn't it be um something?

[00:01:21]>> Because because if it had because if it had and there's an infinite amount of time prior, then it would have created an infinite amount of somethings.

[00:01:26]There's not an infinite amount of something.

[00:01:28]>> Yeah, there is. Infinite is exist.

[00:01:30]>> There's no infinite amount of concrete objects.

[00:01:32]>> Okay. Between the number one and two, there's infinite amount of the thing is you're looking at infinite as if it's a timeline. Not I'm not talking about like um first of all even when you're getting into that you'd realize alf one does not describe the number of digits that come between two distinct numbers right we're saying that when we count like when we count any like transfinite number at least like you know in set theory or cardal if we're like representing the cardality of something it would be like we take the power set of two to the specific infinity that we're trying and then the rear arrangement of that would be the collection of all the possible subsets and then the subsets would until the new infinity I've got a couple of issues with this. Um I'd say my first problem is like >> so like if we go back to like the hot dense state for instance, right? Uh plank time.

[00:02:19]>> There's you could have an infinity between the zero and negative one of time.

[00:02:26]>> I don't I don't dispute that. I'm saying that even if I have like for example if I asked you what's one divided by zero is essentially what I'm asking you here, right? So if I said that there's this point in time where there's zero and then it moves >> well plank isn't necessarily zero brother.

[00:02:40]>> No no I know. Okay. Well you just made the claim that something can go from zero to one. So I'm saying if something goes from zero to one >> or like zero to any >> brother. The only thing that I have done this entire time is say not necessarily.

[00:02:51]You're the only one here making claims of absolutes.

[00:02:54]>> No. No. I'm trying to when you said the guy said that if something comes from nothing then it entails that God is the creator. And then you said oh that's not necessarily true.

[00:03:02]>> Yeah. Not necessarily. It's a false dichotomy. It could be a deeper mechanic in physics that doesn't adhere to time in the way that we understand. It could be a quantum fluctuation of quantum fields. It could be your god. It could be 30,000 other gods. It could be a unicorn. It could be Voldemort. It could be Harry Potter.

[00:03:15]>> Well, no. Uh, I never made the claim that it's going to be. All I said is going to be an all powerful mind.

[00:03:21]>> Oh, yeah. It doesn't.

[00:03:22]>> It could be a natural thing.

[00:03:24]>> No, it >> that's why it's a false dichotomy. It could be a natural thing.

[00:03:27]>> Well, okay. Okay. We can get into that.

[00:03:29]So if I said something like all right one comes from zero and then this from some sort of like infinite energy source that that exists within the universe right then that in itself would exist an infinite >> brother I'm not following you at all right now can you dumb it down for me >> yeah so like um it's essentially if I said something has the possibility of happening right if something possibly can happen then >> possible it could be Voldemort >> enough after enough time this thing is going going to happen?

[00:03:59]>> Not necessarily, >> though.

[00:04:01]>> Oh, that does follow. It's true under this.

[00:04:04]>> Is it going to happen that somebody falls through a wall because all the particles went through it?

[00:04:09]>> Is that ever going to happen?

[00:04:11]>> If it has a possibility, then yeah, >> it has a possibility. It's never going to happen.

[00:04:14]>> If it has a non-zero If it has a non-zero probability, then the not that works, brother. One in Yep. That's exactly how it works.

[00:04:20]>> Nope. Because it resets every single time.

[00:04:22]>> Uh, no, it doesn't reset every single time.

[00:04:24]>> Yes, it does. Literally every Yeah. So it resets with every single attempt that the statistic resets. So it is statistically possible, but it resets every single time to such a degree where it's >> basically impossible. But the fact that it's mathematically still technically possible in some >> form of the calculation is why we say it's possible. It's never going to happen.

[00:04:45]>> Okay, the reset's like completely irrelevant. So >> it's 100% relevant. That's how probability works. That's literally the definition of how probability works. If I flip a coin, right, and I said, "All right, um, you know, if I flip this coin, I'm either going to land on heads or tails." Now, I land on heads. If I flip it again, it doesn't raise the probability that I'm land on tails, right? Correct. Yeah. Yeah. But when we were talking about if I kept doing this, right, it could be in the hundth try, in the billionth try, they finally land on tails.

[00:05:12]>> Yeah. Because eventually going to happen.

[00:05:15]>> Yeah. Because it's a 50/50. When it comes to certain things, it's not a 50/50. It's not about your atoms going through or 0.0000. 0 0 0 like it's such a small minute number and when it resets so much >> in our lifetime and in the expectation of how long existence will be it's not ever going to happen mathematically even though it is possible mathematically it's never going to happen >> mathematically just multiply it multiply take the one and then put it in front of you know um the put it in front of like the decimal and then remove the decimal place and multiply by that and it will happen >> that's not how this works >> that's the likely outcome that's the likely outcome So the likelihood is going to be damn near zero.

[00:05:55]>> Even though because it's possible mathematically, but we only have so much time that we know of. So it's never going to happen in this lifetime.

[00:06:05]>> It is possible that it could happen and we would look into that and be like >> it doesn't have to happen in our lifetime.

[00:06:12]>> This is all like a massive red herring from God anyway. So why should I believe that God exists?

[00:06:16]>> If the amount of time is infinite, right? Right. Then >> so leaving the red herring for mathematical probability. Why should I believe God exists?

[00:06:22]>> Well, it seems like you don't understand probability.

[00:06:24]>> I know you don't. So with the red, >> you think I don't understand probability formula for probability.

[00:06:29]>> Phil bro, slow down. Why should I believe in your god? You are. Why should I believe in your god?

[00:06:34]>> Well, I'm trying to explain to you.

[00:06:36]>> Well, stop with the bro rhetoric. Dumb it down. Say it simply like you're a human being. And then we can have a conversation. If you don't want to do that, I'm going to move on to someone else and you can move on to Ian.

[00:06:45]>> No. Uh >> okay, cool. since you don't want to.

[00:06:47]Cool. [ __ ] off.