Who is Montanus, early Church heresy

[00:00:00]What if God logic comes to the conclusion that not having women priests and pastors is a necessary dogma, but IP comes to the conclusion that it's not a necessary dogma. It's just Trinity and Incarnation. And then Ruslan says, "No, it's also justification by faith." And then Gavin Ortlund says, "No, it's just justification by faith alone." So, do you see how absurd, how arbitrary, nonsensical, not consistent, there's no benchmark for epistemic criteria here.

[00:00:28]How do we know what what's the thing we look to that tells us the basic dogmas?

[00:00:32]Cuz the Bible doesn't list the basic dogmas.

[00:00:35]The Bible is a gigantic multi-thousand page super difficult book. And think how absurd it is to think that God just handed this to everybody to figure out on their own, but didn't think about establishing a normative historical authority.

[00:00:54]We're going to talk about one of the main problems, which is women preachers, women leaders, women's leaders conferences, bad [ __ ] She a bad [ __ ] Boss babes.

[00:01:10]All of that is what we're talking about today.

[00:01:14]I was again reminded in my last rant stream of the problem with the radical reformation.

[00:01:24]And the fact that the classical reformation is done. It's gone. Nobody cares what Martin Luther wrote. Nobody cares about what John Calvin wrote.

[00:01:34]That's all gone, dude.

[00:01:35]The Protestant Reformation seminaries and universities were pretty much taken over the mainline Protestants in the 1920s, 30s, 40s, and 50s. That's why, for example, we saw the Methodists in our last livestream were championing the fact that 50 years ago they were beginning to ordain women. In other words, they were proud of the fact that their apostasy was way ahead of the game. They were ordaining women before everybody, sort of.

[00:02:07]But really they were just in a long train of weirdos.

[00:02:13]A long come on ride a train of weirdos.

[00:02:16]Woo! Woo! Come on ride a train of weirdos. Woo! Woo! It's a choo choo train of weirdos going all the way back to the first, second, and third century butt buddies. Who am I talking about?

[00:02:30]Talking about your boy Montanus. Let's rehearse this cuz nobody gets this. Montanus was the early church so-called prophet.

[00:02:43]So Montanus was a schismatic and he believed that he was a prophet. He believed that he had them Holy Ghost powers that could speak through him.

[00:02:54]He relied on his direct existential supposed feelies and experiences.

[00:02:59]And for him that was confirmation that he was a prophet. In fact, God told him to ordain a couple women, Priscilla and Maximilla, probably his side pieces, I don't know.

[00:03:13]But usually when this stuff's going on it's it's it's something else like that going on, you know what I'm saying?

[00:03:18]And they decided that they were the continuation of the real Pentecost, the real Holy Ghost movement.

[00:03:27]Right?

[00:03:29]Now this is very early. This is second century.

[00:03:32]And the response of the existing Orthodox Catholic Church was to reject Montanus.

[00:03:38]Why was Montanus rejected? Multiple reasons, but primarily because his belief in ongoing public revelation was quite clearly a deviation. In other words, the church had already noticed that mhm, we're not really we don't really need the office of an ongoing prophet.

[00:03:59]As we know from Luke 16:16, the verse that the Mormons had to alter in the Joseph Smith translation, Jesus says that John the Baptist was the last of the prophets. And that means that the New Testament era, a so-called prophet, is something a little bit different than the Old Testament office of a prophet. Why? Well, for one, the Old Testament prophets were all looking forward to the culmination of divine revelation in the Messiah and the Logos. Hebrews 1 says that God in the past spoke in many ways through the fathers and through the prophets, but in these last days he spoke through his son.

[00:04:36]Thus, by extension, the apostles in the first generation of those that he ordained would be the final speakers in terms of public divine revelation.

[00:04:47]That doesn't mean there can't be private clairvoyance with a saint or an elder.

[00:04:51]It doesn't mean that there can't be miracles, exorcism, that kind of stuff.

[00:04:55]But new public dogmatic revelations, they're done when John the apostle passes away. He was the last one to pass away.

[00:05:06]So, not everything, for example, that we see in the Book of Acts is going to be normative for the rest of the period of the church. Let me give you an example because a lot of Protestants and evangelicals, they will immediately assume that, well, anything happening in the Gospels, anything happening in the Book of Acts, is perpetually and for all eternity normative for the history of the church.

[00:05:28]That's ludicrous. First of all, in the first 10 chapters of Acts, we don't have a lot of Gentile converts yet. Thus, Acts 15 is a decision about how to receive converts, and the church has the authority from Christ, given that the apostles are the appointed representatives and mouthpieces of Christ, they have the authority to establish a council and to establish a ruling on this controversial matter in the church. Namely, do the Gentiles need to be circumcised? Do they need to keep various aspects of Mosaic law? As we know, the decision is that if Noah could be righteous before God before the Mosaic law, then there need not be any greater requirements beyond the basic principles of the moral law uh and baptism replaces circumcision.

[00:06:15]So, no. Uh Gentiles do not need to be circumcised to be right with God.

[00:06:21]And they do not need to uh enact some attempt to keep the Mosaic law, which is really impossible anyway because the Mosaic law was intended for the land of Israel and the people living in the land of Israel. It's literally impossible without a temple, etc., to keep the Mosaic law. So, it doesn't even make any sense post 70 AD. Thus, usually you'll find that these types of restoration movements and you could count the radical reformation as one of these. Their whole ethos is really positioned against historic Christianity to be a restoration to some amorphous arbitrary first, second, third era, right? Century era. Now, they're not consistent cuz we never know exactly why it's supposed to be oh, it's the year 224. That is exactly when the church apostatized. Oh, it's the year 325.

[00:07:17]Nicaea is when Constantine took over.

[00:07:19]They're all over the place as to when the blackout happened. We all recall my story I've told many times of Paul Washer, the famous Calvinist preacher, telling me many years ago when he kicked me out of a church where he was uh having open Q&A that it was a it was a blackout, Jay. It was a blackout.

[00:07:38]The church blacked out.

[00:07:41]So, essentially the same as Mormons, the same as even though Pentecostals and Charismatics might admit there were true believers in every century and there was no blackout, it's the same basic idea that at some point there's a massive departure or apostasy from {quote} the church.

[00:08:02]We think, for example, at the Mormon website when we go to um the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, one of the first things that you'll come upon at their website is this article, The Great Apostasy, right?

[00:08:17]And we read, for example, it says, "Following the death of Jesus, wicked people including killed many of the church.

[00:08:27]Uh the apostles were martled martyred, but the church no longer was led by priests." I don't know where they get this idea, but this is why they have their restored Mormon priesthood, right?

[00:08:40]"Error came in.

[00:08:42]Good people and much truth remained, but the gospel was lost." Look at this, "The gospel was lost.

[00:08:51]This is the great apostasy." Now, the Mormons get this because of the fact that the uh Right, there's the passage where Paul talks about in the last days there will be a great apostasy, right, in 2 Thessalonians.

[00:09:06]So, they arbitrarily say, "Well, this happened right after the apostles."

[00:09:10]Okay, well, Paul doesn't say that this was going to happen right after the apostles. He does warn that false shepherds would come into the church in various places in his epistles. But, in the context, he's talking, for example, about the Judaizers who wanted to impose extra-legal prescriptions on the Gentiles to be saved or people who wanted to teach uh Gnosticism or full preterism like Hymenaeus and and uh Philetus who taught that the resurrection has already happened. There's no more bodily resurrection. All these things are examples of what Paul lists at the very end of Timothy. He says, right, there will there will be false teachers teaching the gnosis, right? Talking about the Gnostics.

[00:09:52]So, Paul predicts the rise of the Gnostics at the end of his letter to Timothy.

[00:09:57]So, uh we we notice this pattern amongst so many of these cults, false religions, false teachers, is that they do creep into the church.

[00:10:10]But, remember, we were promised in multiple places, not least of which is the Roman Catholic's favorite passage, Matthew 16, that Jesus said that there would never be a destruction of his kingdom, the church, that would be established, okay? So, let's look at Matthew 16 and we read, Simon Peter said to Jesus said to Simon Peter, "You are the rock, and I will build my church upon you." Uh or he says, "Thou art Peter, and upon this rock." Really doesn't matter how you interpret it. The church fathers interpret it both ways, although the majority interpretation of the church fathers is not that Peter himself is the rock. But, even if there's a play on the names, there's nothing unorthodox about necessarily saying that Peter is the rock.

[00:10:55]"I will give you the keys of the kingdom. Whatever you bind will be bound. Whatever you loose shall be loosed, right?"

[00:11:01]And then we read two chapters later the exact same thing is said to the entire college of the apostles, right? And this is why we would say that this doesn't really make sense uh to say that this is in some way the sole prerogative of Peter, right? And the idea that this is the sole prerogative of Peter, uh in the Roman Catholic conception, obviously evolves over many centuries because, for example, as everyone knows, there's three Petrine sees, Rome, Alexandria, and Antioch. And so, if the promise to the Petrine sees is Matthew 16 that Peter's the rock, well then there's three rocks.

[00:11:41]Right? And then the Roman Catholics have to say, "Oh, no, it's just Rome. Why?

[00:11:45]Cuz Peter died there."

[00:11:47]Okay, so what? How does dying there mean that the promise isn't to all the Petrine sees, it's only to Rome. So you see they shoot themselves in the foot when they admit that it's the Petrine see and then they don't realize that Alexandria and Antioch are also Petrine apostolic succession.

[00:12:07]Peter alone didn't get the keys. That's what I'm trying to tell you.

[00:12:10]Because the office of the keys in Roman Catholic exegesis is preaching the gospel, administering the sacraments, and administering jurisdiction. Those are the three elements of what it is to have the keys. So guess what?

[00:12:24]That's exactly what Matthew 18:18 says.

[00:12:26]Binding and loosing, that is the office of the keys. And it's the whole college of the apostles. So you're wrong, Mark. It is not only that Peter has the keys.

[00:12:36]They all exercise jurisdiction, which is the office of the keys.

[00:12:40]And by the way, even if you think that only Peter has the keys, that still refutes your own argument because Alexandria and Antioch are Petrine and by that line of argument they would also have the keys. Do you not understand this?

[00:12:53]Anyway, we're not here to to debate this key stuff. We went through that a million times for 10 years. I'm not rehearsing all that. But we also know in Matthew in the gospel where Jesus appoints the apostles and he says, "He who hears you hears me." So the apostles are the successors to Christ. And then when we read the Pauline epistles, especially to Timothy, Paul appoints Timothy to be his successor in Ephesus and no one else. And then he instructs Timothy to lay hands on other men who have heard the entire apostolic deposit from Paul, including the oral teaching because he taught for 3 years day and night in Ephesus in Acts 20. That means that the entire apostolic deposit that Paul gave to Timothy for 3 years not just letters in writing but also oral catechesis and preaching and teaching. All of that is to be handed on to the next generation of a good successor in Ephesus.

[00:13:47]That's apostolic succession.

[00:13:50]And none of the Protestant churches teach that there's a giving of the Holy Spirit in the laying on of hands. They teach doctrinal succession.

[00:13:58]Redeemer right? Doctrinal succession.

[00:14:00]It's not doctrinal succession alone.

[00:14:02]It's also appointed successors.

[00:14:06]Hence why in Numbers 11 you have the same principle of the laying on of hands and the spirit passes from Moses to those that he lays hands on.

[00:14:15]So, to get back to this point though then about how impossible it would be.

[00:14:19]Remember that Jesus says in John in the high priestly chapters in the book of John, he says that I will be with you until the end of the age. I will never leave you or forsake you. My spirit will be with you. He will lead you and guide you into all truth.

[00:14:33]Talking about the Holy Spirit.

[00:14:35]Thus, we have this perpetual promise that the institutional public Orthodox Catholic Church which is the only thing that could fulfill all those Old Testament prophecies about the Gentile nations coming into the church.

[00:14:49]All right? Think about dozens and dozens of those in Isaiah in Jeremiah in the Psalms all the way back to Genesis, right? Genesis 12 15 17 22.

[00:15:01]The all the nations and tribes of the earth will be blessed in your seed.

[00:15:05]Okay, that's fulfilled when the Messiah comes and the Gentile nations begin to come into the covenant. Romans 11.

[00:15:11]Thus, it's utterly impossible to think that the visible confessional public Orthodox Catholic Church could fall away and that the gospel could be lost. And this is precisely what we have, for example, with the Mormons. But, remember, this is a trait that's going to be shared with all of the Pentecostal charismatic sects. They're all going to basically argue that even though maybe the gospel teaching in its basics, {quote} {unquote}, whatever that is, wasn't lost, the power of the church was lost. The church became rigid and ritualistic, and it had liturgy, and it wasn't flopping around on the floor and acting [ __ ] which is supposed to be the power of the spirit in the mind of the charismatics.

[00:15:59]Well, again, guess what? As with most heresies, there's already an early church analog.

[00:16:06]Pretty much across the board, whether it's the Jehovah's Witnesses, they just happen to be a another version of the ancient Arian heresy.

[00:16:14]Whether it's the Calvinists, they just happen to be another version of Nestorianism most of the time.

[00:16:19]Whether it's the uh Pentecostal charismatics, they just happen to be the Montanists all over again.

[00:16:27]So, if you're an Orthodox Catholic Christian, then you have a massive advantage because pretty much every sect and every weird group is already dealt with.

[00:16:39]Remember, if you're a Protestant via the logic of the Reformation, every generation has to reinvent the wheel and rediscover and redefine and redefend every basic doctrine.

[00:16:50]That's why I want to come back to this major point that the more I think about it, this is actually what we're having to deal with with the Protestant ecumenist world, with the Gavin Ortlunds, with the Ruse Lanes, all of these people, the root error with all of them is essentially there is no historical church that's definable or that has normative authority, and thus they must be ecumenistic. Now, think about this. So, it's ultimately ecumenism is the root of this.

[00:17:25]And ecumenism is ultimately, I mean, technically you could argue that it comes out of the Renaissance era of the papacy, particularly uh Pico della Mirandola and the Renaissance popes, the Borgias, etc., the Medicis that were very favorable towards Neoplatonic perennialism and Neoplatonic magic.

[00:17:44]Um I think Michael Hoffman demonstrates that in his book Occult Renaissance Church of Rome. You can also see that demonstrated in God, History, Dialectic Volume 2.

[00:17:55]But, setting aside the papal stuff, in terms of the modern Protestant West, because technically, yes, the papacy continued to at least until uh Pius XI reject ecumenism.

[00:18:11]Technically, we're going to set that aside. We're going to focus on the Protestant side of it because I noticed this.

[00:18:17]So, it's actually necessary and essential to the Protestant evangelical approach, they have to be ecumenist.

[00:18:27]Because if they gave up this ecclesial relativism, the whole thing would fall apart. I put up a tweet that was my fault. If you ask a Protestant, "What's the public objective dogma or dogmas that demarcate the true church versus the false church?"

[00:18:45]Every one of them will give you a different answer, thus showing that there's not any public objective criteria for demarcating these groups. Now, I know that if we ask any of these people, if we ask God Logic, if we ask IP, if we ask Ruslan, they're all going to say, "Whoever teaches the word. Whoever teaches basic Christianity." Okay, that's exactly the point though. What is basic Christianity? Who defines it?

[00:19:14]Where is it listed? Cuz there's not a creed for them.

[00:19:20]And they can't just say, "Well, the Nicene Creed." Because every other Protestant can just say, "No, the Nicene Creed was already the apostasy, you see."

[00:19:29]And here's the problem with saying the basic Christian teachings, some some generic nonsense like this.

[00:19:36]Does that mean that women preachers and women pastors can also be true churches?

[00:19:42]Think about that. Now, most of the online pop apologetics anti-Islamity sphere will probably say, "Mm, I don't know that we should have women preachers." Although I think maybe one or two of them have said that they are open to that. I'm going from memory here. I forget. I can't remember if it was IP or if it was Cameron. One of those goobers said that.

[00:20:04]At some point, maybe they've changed their position. I don't know, but So, this is what I'm getting to is like once you say that there's not an actual historic single body that is the true church, and it's all the true believers teaching the word and basic Christianity.

[00:20:24]We've now opened up the floodgates in the possibility for the radical reformation to step in and say, "Ah, yes, we agree. And basic Christianity isn't cannot include a historic normative authority."

[00:20:40]Right? Do you get what I'm saying here?

[00:20:43]In other words, the next logical step from God Logic, IP, and all their positions is to say, "Yes, the church is now going to be restored because it was lost, you see."

[00:20:59]In other words, there's nothing that can solidify or fix you in the ecclesial relativism position that they have that doesn't logically lead you to say well, maybe the church did die.

[00:21:11]Because once you start going to the scriptures to try to prove if your God logic or IP against a radical reformer that the church didn't die. Oh, so wait a minute. Now are you saying that an actual historical church is part of the necessary dogmas?

[00:21:26]Are you beginning to say then that not having women priests and pastors is a necessary dogma?

[00:21:33]Do you see how silly this is?

[00:21:35]What if God logic comes to the conclusion that not having women priests and pastors is a necessary dogma, but IP comes to the conclusion that it's not a necessary dogma. It's just Trinity and Incarnation.

[00:21:48]And then Ruslan says, "No, it's also justification by faith."

[00:21:53]And then Gavin Ortlund says, "No, it's just justification by faith alone."

[00:21:57]So, do you see how absurd, how arbitrary, nonsensical, not consistent, there's no benchmark for epistemic criteria here?

[00:22:07]How do we know what what's the thing we look to that tells us the basic dogmas?

[00:22:11]Cuz the Bible doesn't list the basic dogmas.

[00:22:14]The Bible is a gigantic multi-thousand page, super difficult book.

[00:22:20]And think how absurd it is to think that God just handed this to everybody to figure out on their own, but didn't think about establishing a normative historical authority.

[00:22:31]Now, we're all making fun of Redeemed Zoomer, which makes sense, but at least Redeemed Zoomer is grappling with the problem of normative authority. Now, his answer is to go in a completely dumb direction and say the true authoritative magisterium is the Protestant Church.

[00:22:51]But at least he's trying to grapple with that problem.

[00:22:54]The rest of them aren't even grappling with it.

[00:22:57]Whether it's Ortlund or IP or Ruslan or God logic, they have just decided to opt out and they know that they can just rely on their uneducated goober Muslim convert audience that don't know anything and don't care about history and are never going to read a single church history book. They're never going to read Pelikan. They're not going to read anything.

[00:23:19]They're just going to emote on online and feel like they've done their religious duty by virtue signaling, piety signaling against the Orthodox. Now, this opens the gate, I am arguing, to having women pastors and women priests and deacons and bishops.

[00:23:37]And by the way, once you do that, there's no reason why it can't be trans.

[00:23:41]And I'm not being I'm not joking.

[00:23:44]We know, for example, that in the Anglicans or Episcopals, somebody has ordained a trans bishop, I think.

[00:23:51]And there's no reason why you couldn't, given the logic of this process of no normativity and no historic church and restoration.

[00:24:01]So, essentially, all forms of restorationism must be rejected on the basis of ecclesiology itself.

[00:24:10]And let's ask these people, where did you get the idea that what's necessary to be a Christian is only, quote, basic doctrines? And who says that? Where does that come from?

[00:24:22]Where does the Bible tell you that there's two basic doctrines?

[00:24:27]Just believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and confess with your mouth, and you shall be saved.

[00:24:32]Uh oh, so Mormon Jesus? Can I believe and just confess Mormon Jesus?

[00:24:36]Joel Osteen Jesus? What about the Jesus that's the preached by the lesbian pastors at gay church? Does that count, too? Do you see how this doesn't make any sense?

[00:24:47]So, they The reason that they don't want to deal with these issues is not because your OJ's mean. It would mean that the whole thing's over, dude.

[00:24:57]The whole Protestant Evangelical thing is collapsing and will collapse the exact same way that Dawah online collapsed. The internet was the worst thing that could happen to the Dawah people because people were able to see in live time basic contradictory claims. Guess what?

[00:25:16]It's not going to be any better for the Protestants. And the Protestant Evangelicals, the way that they act, the way that they demonstrate their their thinking about all this is literally no different than the Muslims that they just converted.

[00:25:27]The low IQ anti-Islamianity people that are converting the Muslims are just making them Protestant Muslims.

[00:25:36]Literally. Do you not understand that you don't get to automatically, arbitrarily decide who the church is?

[00:25:43]Does nobody think to look to the church to see who's in and out of the church?

[00:25:48]Everybody just thinks this their own individual purview. Oh, I'll decide.

[00:25:53]I'll read the Bible. I like my Ortho friends, and so even though if I'm Roman Catholic my Ortho friends are cool, so they count. It's not a popularity contest.

[00:26:03]It doesn't matter how many right things you say on the internet. None of that has anything to do with whether or not that's the public criteria for determining who's in and who's out.

[00:26:18]And there's a very simple approach to let's look at the first 1,000 years of Christianity. Who did they consider inside and outside?

[00:26:26]Now, Protestants are auto- automatically not going to care because they don't think that the first 1,000 years of Christianity was Orthodox Catholic. But when they find out that it was, they immediately have to do one of two things. They have to deny it and become a radical reformer and say that the church died, or they have to say, "Well, I'm going to proof text through the church fathers to find the ones that are proto-Protestant or Protestant."

[00:26:51]And it's only a matter of time cuz I did all this. I did the same thing. I was never radical reformer, but I did the same thing when I was uh Protestant and beginning to question Protestantism.

[00:27:01]Reading the church fathers and I'm like, "Uh-oh, they believe in apostolic succession. They believe in the real presence. They believe in liturgical worship. They believe in saints, relics.

[00:27:09]Uh I guess the first thing I can try to do is quote mine them to make them sound Protestant. And everybody does that.

[00:27:18]Right?

[00:27:19]So, you go to Anglicans and you go to Anglican writers. I remember reading Peter Toon and I remember reading Bishop Usher. I remember reading I I I didn't I wasn't Anglican. I was just looking for kind of like possible middle grounds, right?

[00:27:33]Anyway, none of that works because to get back to Montanus, we have this already decided rec- rejection of the idea that there's ongoing public divine revelation.

[00:27:47]And we've been through these texts many times. I've done multiple videos. You could go find my videos where I already covered why there's no new public revelation and how this refutes all cults, sects, and new religious movements, especially any restorationist movements. So, we look at Jude, for example.

[00:28:05]Remember to contend for the faith once for all delivered to the saints. If the faith was not once for all delivered in the first century, at the first advent, and to the apostles, then there could not be a command to contend for a thing that was once for all delivered. It's It would be ongoing deliverance, you see.

[00:28:27]But, it's not ongoing deliverance. It was once for all delivered. We have the statement in I think it's Zech- Is it 12 or 13?

[00:28:35]And Protestants don't understand this cuz they don't understand how to interpret the Old Testament through the eyes of the New Testament.

[00:28:41]So, they get all confused over this.

[00:28:44]But, we read that there's a coming in the Messianic era where people will not prophesy the way that people prophesied in the Old Testament period, right? The way that Enoch and Elijah and you know the the ascetic prophets Saint John the Baptist, right? John the Baptist is the second Elijah according to the book of Luke.

[00:29:09]And so there's a time coming when that will not be the norm. I'm not saying that the church can't have ascetics.

[00:29:15]saying that the church can't have people who operate like a prophetic voice, but ongoing public divine revelation like Ezekiel, Elijah, etc. That will not continue and in fact if a person attempts to do that in the Messianic age, it will come about that he will be excommunicated from the camp. He will be rejected. Okay, this says he will be rejected by his mother and his father because he claims to be a prophet even though there will not be prophets during this period.

[00:29:50]They will be called liars.

[00:29:52]In fact, I am not a prophet, I am a vine keeper. In other words, the normative approach will be people shepherding the flock, not being ongoing public prophets like Ezekiel and Isaiah because public divine revelation will be complete and the faith will be once for all delivered to the saints.

[00:30:13]And we even know that the next passage is a famous prophecy of the crucifixion of the shepherd of the of the Messiah.

[00:30:22]Right? So this is not talking about the end of the world, it's talking about the final advent.

[00:30:27]Let's look at another passage that these people love to go to. Actually, I was I was trying to think about whether to cover all the passages here because they're all pretty relevant to this, but um because a lot of people will will approach this passage and and they they automatically just assume like the dispensationalist that oh, this is all about the end of the world. Oh, all this is all about the end of the world. It's not all about the end of the world, right? Because I think I should start with Acts because that would prove I think that would prove the position stronger than if I was just reading it from Joel.

[00:30:58]So, if you look at Joel I mean, at Acts, it says you know, Peter preaches his sermon. We see the events of Pentecost, right? And Peter explains explains that no, these men are not drunk, right?

[00:31:11]It will come to pass that in the last days I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh. Okay?

[00:31:18]What do you think Peter's referring to there? Is it talking about the end of the world?

[00:31:22]No, he's talking about what's just happened in Acts 2, Pentecost, okay?

[00:31:28]And so, Acts 2 is telling you that Joel's prediction of the pouring out of the Holy Spirit is not the end of the world like the Protestant dispensationalist evangelicals. It's an a first advent reality that just was fulfilled.

[00:31:45]Okay? The end of the age means the end of the Old Testament Adamic age. Okay?

[00:31:51]Jesus brought the new age at his first advent. That is the kingdom age, the aeon of the future. The eschatological reality was brought at the first advent. That's why he says what you just saw with these people at at Pentecost in Acts 2 is the fulfillment of Joel.

[00:32:12]So, Protestants evangelicals in their stupidity postpone all of this to the end of the world merely because it says the last days. The last days is the first advent. That is the last days.

[00:32:27]Okay? When did this reign in the kingdom begin?

[00:32:31]Well, guess what? Peter explains it for you.

[00:32:33]This begins when he rose up from the dead and sat at the right hand of the Father. That's called the Ascension. So, when Jesus ascended, that was the beginning of the Davidic kingdom reign.

[00:32:45]It was not David that ascended into the heavens. And so, Psalm 110, "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool," begins when Jesus ascended in Acts. That means, again, that you can't postpone all this and have a restorationist heresy. All the restorationist heresies are also intimately then connected to the idea then that the kingdom of God is at the second advent. And all of this is postponed. And basically, Jesus' first advent was a huge failure.

[00:33:17]Right? Like the Mormons say, the gospel was lost. The church died. It failed.

[00:33:23]This is what undergirds and and lies beneath all of these people. This is the root error of all of them. So, if we can understand this, if we can get this through the people's thick skulls, we can get rid of some of the major problems in America, including the rise in the dominance of these women running everything. These evangelical phony boss babe [ __ ] that think that God is calling them to become uh tradwife boss babes, which doesn't make any sense. How are you a boss babe and a tradwife at the same time?

[00:34:02]>> [snorts] >> I mean, it's possible to do some media.

[00:34:05]I don't have a problem with that. But, I'm saying this idea that we all need to be looking to these women leaders who don't know anything about anything, especially like some Gen Z woman who does never had any life experience, and we're all supposed to listen to Savannah, what's her name?

[00:34:24]Savannah Stone?

[00:34:26]Because TPUSA has decided that she's the voice of women conservatism or something. I mean, why? Why Why is a bunch of deep state evangelicals TPUSA deciding that this is the voice of conservative feminism? And that's all it is. Conserv- conservative feminism.

[00:34:49]Which doesn't make any sense, but that's exactly what it is.

[00:34:52]Right?

[00:34:53]You understand this is all the same root mistake. The idea that Christianity is I pick up my Bible and I make it what I want it to be.

[00:35:03]As if it's not a historic religion with a dogmatic statement and a normative authority that defines who's in and who's out and what it is. I mean, let's take TPUSA for example.

[00:35:20]If I started TPUSJ and I said I'm the real TPUSA because I watched the internet and decided that I could start my own evangelical broadcast, they would sue me.

[00:35:34]They would say you're ripping off our brand.

[00:35:38]And I would be like, "Oh, you mean like how you've just ripped off what actual historic Christianity is?"

[00:35:44]Which is not boss [ __ ] What is the definition of Christianity? The Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed is the church's first and it's from the second ecumenical council. It's not the first ecumenical council.

[00:36:01]That's why it's called Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed because it's ultimately it's the Cappadocians that become sort of the capstone of defining exactly what the faith is. Now, Athanasius in the original Nicene Creed were a good start, but Constantinople 1 further clarifies the role in the life of the Holy Spirit and the doctrine of the church. That's why this is going to be so important, right?

[00:36:29]So, let me move me out of the way for a second here.

[00:36:31]And you'll notice it says, after we mention, you know, what we would call the basics. And you'll note, by the way, that one of the basics is the monarchy of the Father.

[00:36:41]Okay, no Protestant churches teach this.

[00:36:43]And God logic and IP have simply grifted this and borrowed this, copied and pasted this from the Orthodox Church.

[00:36:51]You don't get to just take the Orthodox Church's doctrines and, like a buffet, pick and choose the ones that you want.

[00:36:57]You can't have the monarchy of the Father without the procession of the energies.

[00:37:04]And you can't have deification and the Eucharist without uncreated energies.

[00:37:10]That's the teaching of St. Cyril in the Council of Ephesus, okay? So, how are we going to pick and choose out of the Creed what we want and don't want? And you'll notice there at the bottom it says, I believe in the Holy Spirit, who with the Father and Son is worshipped and glorified. He proceeds from the Father. Now, every Protestant teaches the Roman Catholic version of the Creed with the Filioque.

[00:37:35]So, from the outset, they don't have the Creed.

[00:37:38]They have the altered Creed of Rome, the Papal Creed.

[00:37:43]And then you'll note that the profession ends with one holy Catholic apostolic. That's the four marks of the church.

[00:37:51]The church can only and always have unity, sanctity in that it has sanctified sacraments and it makes people holy and it has saints.

[00:38:03]It's Catholic in the sense of the fullness of truth and in all the nations.

[00:38:08]And it's apostolic, meaning it has the apostolic faith through apostolic succession. Now, when you read the Cappadocians who composed the Creed, that's the meaning in the sense that they give to it. Constantinople I said in its imperial decree, you have to follow the Cappadocians' understanding of the creed.

[00:38:24]That means you can't as a Protestant or as a Anglican make up new definitions for one holy Catholic and apostolic that fits your presuppositions. You have to conform to the creed's meaning and the composers of the creed's meaning.

[00:38:39]It says one baptism for the for forgiveness of sins. That immediately cancels out most Protestants. Because that's baptismal regeneration. One baptism is not a spiritual baptism divorced from water baptism.

[00:38:52]It's spirit and water together in one baptism.

[00:38:56]That's how the Cappadocians and the all the church fathers said it. So, everybody who rejects this, you're not Christian.

[00:39:06]And for the first thousand years of Christianity, if you reject any one of these positions, it puts you outside the bounds of canonical Christianity.

[00:39:15]It doesn't matter how sincere you are, it doesn't matter that you're a nice person, it doesn't matter how popular you are on the internet.

[00:39:23]To deny any of these puts you outside of the bounds of Christianity.

[00:39:28]How do I know that? Because everybody in the first thousand years of the church believed that. They would not consider Arius a Christian. They would not consider Nestorius a Christian. They would not consider Apollinaris a Christian.

[00:39:41]Anyone who rejected baptismal regeneration, you're not a Christian.

[00:39:44]You're heterodox, you're outside of the church.

[00:39:47]And the number one assumption of ecumenism is and all of these people is that, "Yeah, but I got a couple things right." Yeah, but that's not the the standard. The standard is not did you say a couple doctrines right? Because that doesn't work for anybody.

[00:40:02]If you're Let me give an example. If you're a Protestant and you believe that what it is to be a true Christian is to say, "Mhm, the Trinity and the Incarnation." Okay, let's say you're God logic and you think that, "Well, you just got to believe in the Trinity and the Incarnation and that's the basics."

[00:40:17]Okay, well, what if what do you say to a Mormon who says, "Yeah, but I got a lot of other things right."

[00:40:22]You see that the response that you would have to the Mormon is the same response that I'm going to have to you.

[00:40:29]Because you're going to say to me, "But Jay, I'm still a Christian. Yeah, I go to my dad's Evangelical Zionist Church, but I'm still a Christian cuz I believe in the Trinity and Incarnation."

[00:40:41]But who gave you the idea that the Christian faith is just assenting to a set of propositions?

[00:40:47]It's not just assenting to the Creed.

[00:40:49]It's also being a member of this visible body. One holy Catholic Apostolic Church.

[00:40:55]And so somehow these people are all have all fallen under the delusion that you can still be a member of it by mentally assenting to it. That's not what makes you a member.

[00:41:04]If you've not been received into it, you're not a member of it.

[00:41:07]If you look at the councils and the way that they define the church for the first seven {slash} eight {slash} nine ecumenical councils, you'll notice that they consistently refer back to the Creed as the defining delineation the the demarcation. The Creed is the demarcation between what's at least Christianity and what is not.

[00:41:28]And it doesn't matter that you get nine out of 10.

[00:41:31]Do you not understand that?

[00:41:33]If you reject, let's say you believe all of these doctrines in the Creed, but then you say, "But, you know what? Uh not about those regeneration." Well, you're out.

[00:41:42]You're you're not in the church anymore because now you've denied denied the fundamental realities of the sacraments.

[00:41:48]And you've reduced the sacraments to the Old Testament status of sacraments. So, in other words, Baptists and uh symbolists when it comes to the Eucharist, they're actually Judaizers.

[00:41:59]They are removing the power of the sacraments and making them the equivalent of how the sacraments of the Old Testament functioned.

[00:42:08]Right? Calvinists do the same thing.

[00:42:09]They might give it a little more Well, the Holy Spirit's there, okay, but it's not the real presence, it's not the body, blood, and uh of Christ, it's not the mysteries.

[00:42:19]It's a rationalizing and reducing the sacraments to the exact same status that they had in the Old Testament.

[00:42:26]As if baptism is just a symbol like circumcision was a symbol.

[00:42:31]No, Paul says the New Testament sacraments are the reality and the Old Testament sacrament was the type.

[00:42:37]So, every Baptist, every one of these lunatics, is denying the power of the sacraments.

[00:42:44]And that's why you can't be part of the visible structure of the church.

[00:42:49]Think how insane it is that Doug Wilson created a denomination, a man-made denomination, that allows you to have a Baptist view of the sacraments and a high church Anglican view of the sacraments.

[00:43:00]In other words, within one Protestant sect, you can have paedo communion and the next guy is denying his children paedo communion cuz it's not a real sacrament anyway.

[00:43:09]This is lunacy. This alone cancels all of those groups.

[00:43:15]That's why they're so mad about us, that's why they're having to do a conference to combat Orthodoxy, is because they're realizing their young men and young people are leaving their sects for literally what's in the Nicene Creed.

[00:43:30]So, what are we beginning to notice?

[00:43:32]Protestantism is a feminist sci-op. Why?

[00:43:37]Precisely because it's a return to the ancient heresy of Montanism, which was a form of restorationism, which was a form of charismatic Pentecostalism.

[00:43:48]And even if you were to say some of the Protestant reformers, let's say uh Calvin or Luther, you could say, "Well, I'm a Protestant, I'm a classical Protestant and and Calvin and Luther weren't They weren't charismatics. They weren't They You can't lump us in with them." Oh, really?

[00:44:03]Every one of them argued that the Holy Spirit was guiding them to reform the church via the Bible.

[00:44:11]So even those guys are in a way charismatic reformers. They might not have been into barking and rolling around on the floor and gibbering like a lunatic shock the lucky okie.

[00:44:24]But they're still a kind of restorationist in that they think the visible institutional church had apostatized in whatever gradation or degree you think and had to be restored and reformed according to their ideas. So basically everybody in the Protestant world by default is some form of charismatic restorationist.

[00:44:50]The only exception that I can think of to this and even still it wouldn't really work is maybe an Anglican or a Lutheran that thinks that they have apostolic succession. I'm not saying that they do, but I'm saying that if you were to try to come up with one type of maybe a Protestant that could be excluded uh but I mean who like who even takes any of those people seriously?

[00:45:15]First of all, if you're an Anglican you already accepted women's ordination a long time ago.

[00:45:24]What?

[00:45:25]Yes, you heard me right.

[00:45:27]Why? Because did you not know that the official head of the Anglican Church at least in the last century was the queen?

[00:45:38]The queen of England for decades was the official head of the Anglican Church.

[00:45:43]So you already had women priests, bishops, and leaders because a woman was ahead of your church, you idiots.

[00:45:50]This alone disqualifies you.

[00:45:52]You're out. You're not the church automatically. It doesn't matter if you say 10 things correct. According to uh known history, Montanus was a new convert. Look at this.

[00:46:05]Interesting. He fell into a trance and thought he was prophesying by the Holy Spirit. This is 156 AD. This is the charismatics of today.

[00:46:12]He was then joined by two young thoughts, Priscilla and Maximilla. They also started prophesying. Hear me now.

[00:46:20]Their movement spread throughout Asia Minor. The encryptions, look at that, where JP at. The encryptions indicated that a number of towns were completely converted to Montanism. At first, their enthusiasm waned, but the followers of Montanus were predominantly in rural cities. So, these are the uneducated townsfolk, unfortunately.

[00:46:42]Much like your Bible Belt Holy Rollers are uneducated city country folk.

[00:46:48]Not the townsfolk, country folk, I mean.

[00:46:50]The essential principle of Montanism was that the Holy Spirit that Jesus promised was not a Pentecostal reality, but was talking about Montanus. By the way, you notice that, remember how the the Muslims do the same thing? The Muslims take Jesus's prophecy prophecy of the coming of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost, and they say that it's talking about Muhammad. It's so stupid, dude, but they weren't the first to do this. It was actually the Montanists that were first to do this.

[00:47:18]And at first, and the in the in 150, people were not clear if this was necessarily a denial of doctrines, although it was. However, uh, eventually, Montanus prophecy was that it was a new doctrine.

[00:47:37]The people that were considered, quote, true prophets did not introduce ecstatic intensity as a kind of status or state to be in to have the spirit. So, notice they're beginning to identify the ecstatic state with having the Holy Spirit. You know, you'll see this, for example, a lot of Oneness Pentecostal heretics today, who are anti-Trinitarian, they'll say, "You ain't got the Holy Ghost unless you said the name of Jesus and got baptized in the name of Jesus and then spoke in tongues with the Holy Ghost." Right?

[00:48:11]It became clear that the claim of Montanus to have to have the final revelation of the Holy Spirit then implied that something could be added to the teaching of the apostles. So, you see that they're beginning to realize, "Oh, he's actually saying there's new public divine revelation."

[00:48:27]Another important aspect of the Montanus teaching was the expectation of the second coming, that it was about to happen. So, notice, it's an end times cult, just like all the Protestant evangelical goofballs have the exact same end of the world John Hagee dispensational heresy, right? It's the same Why is this?

[00:48:46]Because the same demons that are inspiring Montanus are inspiring the heretics of today.

[00:48:51]They believed that the heavenly Jerusalem was about to descend to Earth in the villages of Pepuza and Tymion in Phrygia.

[00:48:59]In addition to their prophetic enthusiasm, Montanus taught a legalistic moral rigorism.

[00:49:07]So, they're holy rollers.

[00:49:09]Followers said that you could never flee from any uh case of martyrdom.

[00:49:14]Uh and second marriages are forbidden.

[00:49:17]So, notice, Montanus realized that and this is what all cult leaders do. All sectarians do this.

[00:49:24]In order to create the false uh impression that they're better than everyone else and that they're a really true elite version of Christianity, you have to interject these new moral standards that set you apart from everyone else. And the new moral standards are never, you know, the 10 Commandments, which is the you know, basic teaching of the of the church. No, it's another higher tier Oh, well, we don't drink, we don't smoke, and we don't chew.

[00:49:48]And we're better than everybody that do.

[00:49:51]Right? So, it's the same low-tier legalistic idea that Christianity it consists in keeping a couple of these externals that make you visibly better than everyone else.

[00:50:02]Meanwhile, you're full of hatred, you're full of, you know, just goblins and your interiorly you're a goblin, right? But, exteriorly you put on a face of being a moral rigorous and a holy roller.

[00:50:16]Now, look, I'm from the Bible Belt.

[00:50:18]I've seen this my entire life. I've grown up around the Pentecostals, the charismatic, the Church of God, the Church of Christ, the Baptist, the fundamentalist Baptist, the primitive Baptist, the independent fundamentalist Baptist, the uh Nazarenes, the oneness apostolic Pentecostals. I've seen this my entire life, okay? And everybody knows that the holy roller churches are the biggest hypocrites on the face of the earth.

[00:50:52]They're all they wear their skirts and their buns, they don't cut their hair, but they all [ __ ] each other all the time, and they're all into drugs, and they're all complete hypocrites.

[00:51:02]They're ridiculous. And they act like absolute demons.

[00:51:06]By the way, the women are all fat and ugly anyway. So, why would we think that that is some legitimate manifestation of Christianity? The only way those things exist is based on total ignorance. The people in those groups are absolutely uneducated rubes, totally ignorant people. I'm from the Bible Belt. We're dumb. We don't know anything.

[00:51:29]We aren't taught in public education anything about church history, anything to do with the history of the West.