🤯 "SECTION 8 ALREADY PAID!" Tenant Claims $224 Credit Covers Rent… Judge Had The Real Receipts.

Added: 2026-05-09

[00:00:00]And she kept telling us, "Oh, I be in there tomorrow. Oh, I be in there tomorrow. Oh, I be in there next >> Um, I did try to take in a money order.

[00:00:06]Miss Green told me she wouldn't accept it.

[00:00:08]>> Uh, according to the plaintiff, which they have cameras all throughout that apartment complex.

[00:00:13]Um, I have a video recording. Would that have worked?

[00:00:18]All right. I want to welcome both parties to Mecklenburg County Justice.

[00:00:21]Y'all, before we get started, let's just go ahead and set the stage like we like to do.

[00:00:25]So, I haven't seen this, of course, but apparently this is going to be a case of he said, she said.

[00:00:31]When a tenant's excuses face off against a landlord's cold, hard proof in courtroom drama.

[00:00:37]And the judge isn't here for it, apparently.

[00:00:39]But, it looks like both sides brought their A game for this case.

[00:00:44]Or at least their version of the truth.

[00:00:46]So, what we're trying to understand is did the tenant really try to pay?

[00:00:50]Or is this just another round of rent dodging as we a lot of times see that people like to do.

[00:00:56]So, without further ado, let's just get back into it. If you could like the video, I'd greatly appreciate it. Only takes a second and it actually helps out more than you know. And also, if you could hype The Peace Court Precinct 2 remote proceedings. I'm Judge James Lee.

[00:01:09]In today's case, she hasn't paid rent since July, but somehow thinks a $224 credit covers everything. 3 months later, she's in eviction court, calm, confident, and completely wrong. The landlord's got receipts, the judge has got patience for now. And once the math starts rolling, things get real uncomfortable.

[00:01:28]I'm going to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you, God.

[00:01:33]I did. I did.

[00:01:35]All right. Uh, I already know this is a tax credit property, so you know, where this is the CARES Act applies. So, what what's going to happen is I'm going to give you, Miss Green, the opportunity to speak first.

[00:01:45]You know, it's up to you to provide proof to me that the defendant defaulted in terms of her lease and that you did everything you were legally supposed to do according to the property code. Then, once you're through, I'm going to give you, Miss Smith, um, Miss Brown, sorry. Ms. Brown the opportunity to defend yourself and it's going to be up to you to provide proof to me that you should not be evicted based on the uh complaint of nonpayment of rent. Now, it's going to be a little respect factor when we do do this today.

[00:02:10]Ms. Green's going to speak first and so you, Ms. Brown, you're not going to interrupt her while she's speaking, okay?

[00:02:17]Okay.

[00:02:17]>> go. All right. And then afterwards, you're going to defend yourself. And while you're speaking, Ms. Ms. Green is not going to interrupt you. All right, Ms. Green?

[00:02:27]Correct. Yes, sir. All right, Ms. Green, you can proceed on with the case against the defendant.

[00:02:32]Okay. Um well, I want to start out by saying Ms. Ms. Brown um has re- has done her recertification and as of July of 2025, she has not paid rent since that moment. And she actually took over this lease uh in June of 2024.

[00:02:56]Oh my goodness.

[00:02:58]Um her grandmother was originally in the unit and she the grandmother removed herself from the unit and Ms. Brown actually took over and I have uh submitted the lease amendment uh where she took over the unit as of June of 2024 and at that point, I wasn't the manager here. There were other issues that took place with the previous manager that I cannot actually verify or speak on. So, all of my So, hold on, y'all.

[00:03:28]Because the new information that's been introduced now, what is showing is apparently allegedly, she's on subsidized housing.

[00:03:39]So, already she's on subsidized housing.

[00:03:42]Because and also what is showing her monthly rent rate is every month is $452.

[00:03:49]Which is clearly got to be subsidized housing, right?

[00:03:53]So, it looks like apparently she she's been owing from August to October.

[00:04:00]And the total balance due apparently is allegedly $1,332 plus the court fees.

[00:04:08]So, apparently the tenant claims corporate told her she only owed 228 for August and says the manager refused to accept partial payment. Landlord says no rent has been paid since July.

[00:04:22]So, it looks like this is possibly Section 8 involved.

[00:04:26]Possibly.

[00:04:28]My paperwork and documents are moving forward as of 2025.

[00:04:33]Starting July 2025 solely to her not paying her rent.

[00:04:39]Okay.

[00:04:40]She It's subsidized housing. So, what's what's her What is she responsible for for her monthly rent? She is responsible for 400 I'm sorry.

[00:04:52]Should have my glasses on. $452 monthly.

[00:04:57]Goodness gracious.

[00:04:59]This This looks crazy. Hold on.

[00:05:01]This profile Wait a second.

[00:05:05]Goodness gracious.

[00:05:08]What is going on?

[00:05:11]That looks wild.

[00:05:16]As of I'm sorry. No, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead.

[00:05:20]As of uh August 1st, that is what she was responsible for. I'm sorry I said July, but it's actually August 1st that she was responsible for that because we gave her credit in July. Since this situation has taken place, she spoke with my um regional manager and my regional manager took a look at her her her ledger and uh saw that she was due a credit for July. So, starting August, September, October, she has not paid rent at that point.

[00:05:52]Okay, your petition state that she was she didn't pay rent for July, but this was after you you found this information afterwards. Yes, sir. We Yes, sir. So, we gave her credit to try to assist her.

[00:06:04]I mean, she cuz she's a good resident.

[00:06:06]So, she spoke with my RPM and my regional manager took a look at her account and made her aware that, "Okay, July, we understand. We have you a credit. You don't have to pay You didn't have to pay July's rent, but as of August, you do owe the $452 as of August." Okay, so are you So, so you're amending your petition to just uh you know, looking for August through October. October. Yes, sir. All right.

[00:06:32]So, what I'm going to do is just uh you know, okay. So, I got the amendment.

[00:06:37]Okay. All right, so uh notice of vacate, uh you indicate that it was placed inside of the unit. Tell me a little bit more about that. How was it placed inside of the unit?

[00:06:46]Well, we get we actually took it to the unit and handed it to who actually actually answered the door that was of age. Okay, so you actually personally gave it to someone. Yes, sir. Okay. I'll just cuz you said you said placed inside of the unit. That's what I was trying to figure out, you know. Well, when I walked When I When I I have to do everything before I go over there. So, as I was walking over there, yeah, when they answered the door, okay, if they don't answer the door, I'm definitely going to place it inside the unit, but that's kind of what they you know, we have to fill out all that out before we get over there, so. I was referring to your petition, not the notice of vacate. Your petition Yeah, so that that's why I hadn't even got to the notice of vacate, but so so pretty much you're amending you know, you're amending petition not only for the rent, but also how the notice was delivered because that's what you typed in on your petition that it was posted on the inside of the unit, but it was actually handed to someone. Was that person the age of 16 years of age?

[00:07:47]Yes, it was Ms. Brown. Okay, it was actually Ms. Ms. Brown that you handed it to.

[00:07:52]>> Yes.

[00:07:53]Okay, personal delivery. All right, that was done on the 10th of August.

[00:07:59]Yes, let me let me That was a 30-day notice to vacate. Yes, sir. Okay. All right.

[00:08:08]Okay, so you filed several documents with me and then I have a copy of the 30-day notice to vacate. It's dated August 15th.

[00:08:18]But, you gave it to her on the 10th.

[00:08:20]Yes, sir.

[00:08:22]And the reason The reason why is because we were actually in communication with Ms. Brown. Like I say, she's a good resident, and she kept telling us, "Oh, I'll be in there tomorrow. Oh, I'll be in there tomorrow. Oh, I'll be in there next week. Oh, I'll be in there, you know." And we were steady trying to work with her, and then it just got to the point where, "Okay, I have to go forward. I have to move forward, Ms. Brown. I can't continue to get those promises from you, and you're not abiding your your, you know, word.

[00:08:50]So, that you you you gave her another notice on the 19th.

[00:08:54]Uh Little sidebar.

[00:08:56]You know, I'm I'm I kind of feel like I have a missed opportunity now because I already made the thumbnail for the video. I haven't seen it, but I already just, you know, screenshot it, made it the thum- made the thumbnail.

[00:09:07]So, funny enough, I actually thought that it was in regards to those two women.

[00:09:13]So, I thought they were the tenants.

[00:09:15]So, >> [laughter] >> cuz the the ten- the real tenant, I'mma be honest, like >> [sighs] >> she has a clickbaitable face.

[00:09:27]So, I feel like I missed an opportunity.

[00:09:29]That man, that That's going to I'm I'mma lose out on some views by not putting her.

[00:09:34]Cuz she is definitely um got the shock value going.

[00:09:37]But, I digress. Let's get back into it.

[00:09:41]of of >> 30-day notice Yeah, so that that So, you gave her a 30-day notice and you gave her a 10-day notice letting her know that you know, she still not in compliance.

[00:09:52]Yes, sir.

[00:09:53]Yes, sir.

[00:09:55]All right.

[00:09:56]Okay, you filed a ledger that showed the tenant spending with you for as you stated under oath.

[00:10:04]And showed the transactions that the tenant made all the way up It does not indicate that as you mentioned the credits that the tenant received for the month prior to August. Okay. All right.

[00:10:23]Okay. So, you also provided me with proof that she's not in the military and a lease.

[00:10:31]And you invite This is the research vacation. Okay.

[00:10:34]All right.

[00:10:35]Okay, let me give the tenant the tenant opportunity to defend herself. And before I get started, to your knowledge, the tenant is still residing at the property in question?

[00:10:45]Yes, sir.

[00:10:47]All right, Miss Miss Brown.

[00:10:49]You You've heard the You've heard the case against you so far. To Here's your opportunity to defend yourself. Go ahead.

[00:10:56]Let's go. Okay, so I actually didn't move in June of '24. I actually moved in April 12th of '24.

[00:11:03]Um when I did move in, like she stated, it was some other issues. When I moved in, I had to pay 973 of I don't know why.

[00:11:13]But again, like she stated, I'm dealing with that situation as I speak. Um I had to pay $973 I guess to move in the apartments.

[00:11:22]Um and as far as in the notice Okay, let me start back. The far as in the credits, um I have spoke with the corporation office. She stated that the credit was applied on to a on in July for $200 $24 because I overpaid previous to this situation. Okay? Um so I only have one notice that I received and I picked this up in the office which was gave to me on August 15th. It wasn't gave to me August 10th.

[00:12:06]Um but at this time it still have the $111 on there for July and it still have the $452 on there for August, but I had already spoke to corporation which she told me that I only owed $228 for August. Hm.

[00:12:27]Okay. When I spoke to Miss Duchina um she's still telling me that I at the time she told me that I was I owed $608.

[00:12:38]But I had had a credit applied which was $224 and I also was only supposed to pay $228 for the month of August, not $452.

[00:12:51]Um again, like I stated, I didn't receive no other notices, only got this one that I received from Miss Nay which was on August 15th.

[00:13:01]Okay. Did the Did the corporate office Did they send you a email or anything confirming that you only owed $228 for August?

[00:13:12]Um I have a video recording if that'll work. What?

[00:13:15]You have a video recording of the conversation?

[00:13:20]Yes, sir. Oh. Did you present that to Miss Green prior to today?

[00:13:25]Um no. No, you know she didn't do that.

[00:13:28]>> Is there a reason why? Because that's part of your defense.

[00:13:31]Um, well, the reason well, at first I was trying to pay.

[00:13:37]Um, I did try to take in a money order.

[00:13:38]Miss Green told me she wouldn't accept it. She needed all of the rent, which is the 452 for August, 452 for September, 452 for October, but I'm not understanding how I owe 452 for August, which I was already told that only a credit was applied of 224, and I only had to pay 228 from corporation.

[00:14:00]So, let me ask you this, Miss Brown.

[00:14:03]You, um, let's say that the video does show that you owe, uh, that you had got a credit of 228 for August, right?

[00:14:15]So, if we take 228 from 452, that still leaves with 200 and what, $24 that you owe for August?

[00:14:26]The 224 was the credit, which will leave 228 for August. Oh, so so you actually owe 228 for August. So, let's just say that you have this video that you got from corporate office, you never presented it to Miss Green, and you, uh, let me ask you this next question. Did you attempt to pay the 228 for August prior to the notice to vacate expiring that you received on August 18th?

[00:14:56]Um, I took it and tried to take in the money order. She told me she wouldn't, uh, not She's not accepting it. She want the whole payment.

[00:15:03]All right. Uh, how long is this video?

[00:15:06]Um, I I think it's 30 to 40 >> You know it's long. where you can hear, um, how long Miss Lindsey told me that I need to pay.

[00:15:15]All right. Well, why why don't you do this? Why don't you go ahead and and summarize that, you know, shorten that video up, and I'm just going to go to Ms. Green while you're doing that. Ms. Green, uh uh >> Yes.

[00:15:25]So Yes, sir.

[00:15:27]Tell me a little bit more about, you know, the defendant stated something in regards to the uh her only owing 228 for August.

[00:15:35]Is that >> Before she gets into the video, I mean, look at these little numbers that we're like going back and forth about. Like it must be nice.

[00:15:45]Like she's like meeting in the middle.

[00:15:47]Worst case is like, okay, well, you owe her $200.

[00:15:51]We ain't even really talking about nothing earth-shattering here.

[00:15:54]But we're going through all this to the point to where like she's becoming a private eye and recording conversations and videos over $200.

[00:16:07]I just really wanted to put that into perspective. Ain't that something?

[00:16:12]>> [laughter] >> We do all this aside from just get a job so you can get off subsidized housing.

[00:16:20]Is there any any truth to that any documentation you've seen in the corporate office?

[00:16:24]No, sir. The only thing that when I spoke with my corporate office was that Lindsay stated that she had a credit for July. Cuz in July her rent was 111.

[00:16:38]So she did make when she was making payments, she was making them like $10 more payments on her past account. So once my manager took a look at it, she had a credit that covered her July's rent because she did not pay rent in July as well.

[00:16:56]So that credit covered her 111 July's rent with her um late fees for July. So that was all that I was made aware that her credit was for. When speaking with my manager, she stated, but she still owes August to October's rent.

[00:17:15]Okay.

[00:17:16]All right. Uh Ms. Ms. Brown, let me hear this video.

[00:17:22]Okay, yes sir. I'm getting straight to the point. Sorry.

[00:17:26]Okay, here it is the This is well this is Miss Lindsey and me and my conversation which is conversation.

[00:17:35]220 dollars and your August rent hit for 450 dollars leaving a 228 dollar balance. You paid me nothing. Charged a 30 dollar late fee and then your rent hit for September for 452 dollars bringing your balance to 710. You paid nothing. Added a late fee of 29 dollars bringing your balance to 739 dollars and now your October rent hit. So it's 1,191 dollars for non-payment of rent for the last three months.

[00:18:05]Okay, so So this the recording right there. All right, I'll let you hear it again if you want to. Can you go go rewind it back a little bit more? Yes, sir.

[00:18:15]Hmm, that was pretty clear.

[00:18:17]That's good evidence.

[00:18:19]Okay, one moment.

[00:18:20]I see the ledger. I cleaned up all the weird late fees >> [snorts] >> on there. She said that we both She basically was at the I I I I need I need you to be able to hear her clearly cuz I cuz it there's a part in there before you you you uh you know, I hear it or I played it. I need to hear that part.

[00:18:43]>> I think Yeah, it looks like when you moved in when I went back through the ledger I cleaned up all the weird late fees and stuff that were on there.

[00:18:56]Everything was good and has been good like I said until August of this year when you did not pay basically. That's correct. You had a credit You had a credit um of 224 dollars and your August rent hit for $452 leaving a $228 balance. You paid nothing. Charged a $30 late fee and then your rent hit for September for $452 bringing your balance to $710. You paid nothing. Added a late fee of $29 bringing your balance to $739. And now your October rent is so it's $1,191 that's owed and it's for nonpayment of rent for the last 3 months.

[00:19:38]And the And And Judge, the last time I actually spoke with her, that is the balance that I gave her plus the court fees. So, your manager told her that as of October, she owes $1,191.

[00:19:52]That is all of September all of October all of October and a portion of August.

[00:20:00]Yes, sir.

[00:20:01]But, you're saying that she still owes the full amount for August, but that's not what your corporate office is telling her.

[00:20:10]Mhm.

[00:20:11]Based on this recording.

[00:20:14]Okay, but her balance is the $1,100.

[00:20:18]After she spoke with my manager, I still told her when she just last week when she walked up to me outside, your balance is $1,100 and I couldn't give her exactly what it was because we were outside plus her court fees. So, even with the balance of what her and my manager spoke of and I wasn't aware of that, I still gave her only what this balance is. She still hasn't paid the rent. So, I told her the balance that I have is $1,195 plus the court fees and she said, "Oh, so about $1,300 give or take is what you will owe and that will that will bring your balance to a zero." And she said, "Okay, I'll bring it in before we go to court." I have not seen her since. So, I can understand that even with what my corporate office made her understand that she owed before she cleaned up her ledger, I gave her what was owed. So, next question, when did she she's stating that she attempted to pay She did not.

[00:21:19]prior prior prior to uh you all prior to the 30-day notice expiring. So, she she she also swore to me that she came into the office and picked up the notice to vacate on 15th, meaning that you gave it to her somebody gave it to her on the 15th.

[00:21:34]All right. And if we go 30 days from the 15th of August, that leads all the way to September 15th. So, the question is, did the tenant attempt to pay the amount that she should have that she owed even if it was reduced from August from from August to September, which would have been right around $739.

[00:21:55]Did the tenant come in and attempt to pay that?

[00:21:58]No, sir.

[00:21:59]Got it. So, this got complex, but it it it just got simple at the same time. So, what it's coming down to is timing is what it appears.

[00:22:07]And basically, because after things have been filed like and you're actually going through the process and trying to get the rid of possession, then you can no longer take the payment. But, there are steps to this. So, apparently, they put the 30-day notice on her door, which is a 30-day notice of pay or vacate, right?

[00:22:27]So, it seems like she tried to go and execute that option where she's alleging that she tried to go and execute that option.

[00:22:34]And apparently, they didn't want to take it at that point.

[00:22:38]Or take anything, but I could have swore I heard her say something about partial payments as well.

[00:22:42]So, now we got to try to understand that, and it looks like she had a little bit of evidence to kind of sway the judge her way.

[00:22:49]But, it ultimately is still going to be word of mouth, their word against hers as far as that, because now that's the sticking point in the case.

[00:22:58]Um because see, and that's what I always say, man.

[00:23:02]It's so much red tape that the landlords have to undergo to make sure that they can smoothly go throughout this process.

[00:23:08]And it's usually very little on the tenant when it comes to what they have to do.

[00:23:14]And she's not paying, she's living good.

[00:23:16]All she had to do was put one little um piece of doubt within this case, and now of a sudden it could stall things further, or maybe she could even win.

[00:23:26]And they may have to restart and try to do it correctly again. Who knows?

[00:23:32]Sir, she came in and asked us what her amount was each time she walked in the office. She did not have a money order in hand to pay at any given time she walked in this office. And if if she would have attempted to pay the $739 prior to the 30-day notice to expire, would you have accepted it?

[00:23:52]If she would have had a money order in hand. All right. Um Ms. Brown, so I I I'm I I need a little more, you know, I heard you. You know, even uh considering the the the reduction in August uh according to the plaintiff, which they have cameras all throughout that apartment complex, did you have a Did you have a money order in hand? Did you have a money order in hand in the amount of $739 >> [laughter] >> as of September the 15th of 2025 going to the office to pay?

[00:24:26]No, sir.

[00:24:28]Ooh, you done messed yourself up. See, she done messed up now. She She had him right where she wanted him. She did a good job. Shoot, I would have been like, "Well, that's semantics at that point, Judge. It wasn't in my hand, so the camera won't see it. It was in my pocket." Now, she can't lie under oath, but shoot, I don't know if she's lied already, but dang.

[00:24:51]Checkmate.

[00:24:54]All right.

[00:24:56]Done deal.

[00:24:59]It's a wrap.

[00:25:00]>> All right.

[00:25:00]There's going to be a judgment against you, ma'am.

[00:25:03]In the amount of $1,132 plus court costs, which is an additional $144.

[00:25:11]So, uh I'm ruling in favor for the plaintiff.

[00:25:16]You have uh the right to appeal. Appealing means you disagree with my decision and you want your hearing all over again by another judge uh in the court, which is the county court law.

[00:25:28]In order for you to appeal my decision you would have to post an appeals bond of $904.

[00:25:36]You have so many days to appeal the case if you uh so you have uh pretty much roughly 6 days from today's date. Counting begins to appeal it. Oh. Oh. Oh.

[00:25:48]>> Uh if you do not appeal it uh within the 6 days and you're still staying there at that unit then Ms. Green can take the next legal actions against you, which is the uh filing of a writ of possession. Oh. Oh. Oh. If it gets to that point, the constable will serve you with a 24-hour notice to vacate.

[00:26:06]You do not comply with the constable's notice, then they will be back over there to act as security.

[00:26:10]And then the maintenance personnel will be able to safely and peacefully remove all of your personal belongings from inside of the unit and place them outside of the unit.

[00:26:18]Do you understand?

[00:26:20]Damn. Yes, sir, but I do have a question.

[00:26:23]>> [snorts] >> Do I owe how much do I owe cuz I'm trying to figure out. I still don't know. I I can't I I cannot force them to take your money.

[00:26:31]So, in regards to what you owe, you need to get with Ms. Green if they want to accept your money. That's clearly up to them, but uh I just This just This is the judgment. So, in regards to you paying and staying that is something I have no control over.

[00:26:48]So, I I usually once it gets to this point, there is no pay to stay.

[00:26:55]Okay.

[00:26:56]Okay?

[00:26:57]Okay. All right. Good luck to you.

[00:27:00]All right. Thank you.

[00:27:01]All right. You're good.

[00:27:04]It was a bit of a slow burn at the beginning, but it definitely like hit a a peak and then hit a cli- backs.

[00:27:14]Man, really put that into perspective. If only she'd have said she had it in her pocket.

[00:27:20]She shouldn't lie. And she would have had to prove that probably anyway that she wouldn't have got the money order.

[00:27:25]But, that was the difference between you having more time and possibly even them having to refile all over again and you having to be out in 6 days.

[00:27:40]Ain't that something? And still they granted the judgment. She was ordered to pay the $1,332 back as well as about $144 in court fees.

[00:27:51]And they were awarded possession of the property, which means she has to get out. And keep that in Keep in mind she gets subsidized housing.

[00:27:58]So, usually when you get evicted, that affects your subsidized housing, that affects your Section 8. You can over never be on the program again.

[00:28:08]So, big mistake if you ask me.

[00:28:13]Shoot, it might have been worth it just to say you had it in your pocket.

[00:28:16]But, nah. She shouldn't have did that.

[00:28:18]Um you got to be honest especially in court. But, yeah, that was interesting.

[00:28:22]That definitely um escalated towards the end. I wasn't expecting that and it it had me on the edge cuz it was only it was all going to come down to that question. Did you have that money order?

[00:28:34]If she'd have said if she'd have had it, the whole case would have fell apart.

[00:28:40]But, y'all we'll leave it there for the day.

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