Trump Supporter SOBS Over The Confederacy And Slavery But Won't Change How She Votes

Added: 2026-05-05

[00:00:01]that I'm I'm not your normal caller, not your normal listener. So, just hear me out and let me get to my point because I'm long-winded. So, I'm not from the South. I am from Cleveland, Ohio, born and raised. And we moved down to Bradenson, Florida. I have always kind of read historical fiction.

[00:00:21]Um, just been very interested in the South like and my husband happened to work at Arlington Cemetery where he was stationed at, you know, I Fort Meyer when they were redoing Robert El's house. So, my thing about the monuments is you don't want to get rid of all of that because then you're erasing it and history repeats itself. And if people don't know that that happened, it can damn well happen again. So you >> Becky, let me Becky, let me let me stop you right there. Your first time listening, so we dialogue on this show.

[00:00:58]Do you know why the Confederate monuments were erected >> because the Southerners thought that they were heroes, I guess. I don't know.

[00:01:07]I'm not there.

[00:01:08]>> They were erected as an act of intimidation during during Jim Crow.

[00:01:12]They were erected to erase history. They were erected to praise these traitors who wanted to enslave black people and they were trying to rewrite the history of the South. It's called the lost cause narrative. Lost cause and they were erected in the early 1900s.

[00:01:32]Not during the Civil War, not after the Civil War immediately. It was late 1800s, early 1900s as an act of intimidation in the Jim Crow South. And it was an act of historical eraser. So the whole point of them being there was eraser. So those monuments should never even have been up. You could tear them down, put them in a museum, but they should have never been up because they were they were literally a symbol of the Jim Crow South. Do do you know what the Jim Crow South is? Are you familiar with that?

[00:02:03]>> Yes. Yes. Yes, sir. I do. And I get I get your point now because my sister once said to me when they were going through the Confederate flag thing in South Carolina, she's like, "They need to get rid of that." She's like, you know, they went against our country.

[00:02:16]They, you know, so >> but the more important point, Becky, is that you said you don't want to erase the history.

[00:02:22]>> The those monuments being put up was to erase the history of what the South, the Confederacy really stood for. We should not be honoring and praising traitors who wanted to kill American citizens, who wanted to enslave people. That was an act of eraser. That's the that's the important point. So there's no there should be no issue tearing it down and putting it in a museum.

[00:02:46]>> Do you understand what I'm saying, Becky? You understand that?

[00:02:49]>> Okay.

[00:02:50]>> Yes. And I did not know that. So you learn something new every day. But my point, the reason I called was about the Daughters of the Confederacy because I wanted to tell you something about that.

[00:02:59]I am in Florida and I've always liked to tour old homes like kind of always wanted to live in the south. It's just so charming, you know, drawn to it. So, there's this house called the Gamble Plantation in Ellington. It's like on the way to the outlet malls, whatever. I've driven past it hundreds of times. Finally, last year I stopped and did the tour and it was fine. It was really neat old house.

[00:03:25]Like I mentioned, we lived in DC for a while, so I did all of those, something I do commonly.

[00:03:32]And uh it was after Hurricane Milton, so there was a lot of damage. And there's another house on the property, state property, and it was the And it actually broke my heart. Like, it made me want to cry. I was so embarrassed. I am so sorry.

[00:03:50]It was the the national headquarters for the Daughters of the Confederacy. And I'm like, are you freaking kidding me?

[00:03:55]Like that that's still a thing? I I was just astonished.

[00:04:01]So then when you're talking about the tax breaks, it just dawned on me. I'm like, that's in a state park, so we're paying for that. You >> sure are.

[00:04:07]>> Yeah.

[00:04:08]>> And so Becky, you're a Republican. Did you vote for Trump in 2024?

[00:04:14]>> That's what I said. I'm a white Catholic Republican. The only reason I ended up on your channel is because you're between the Patriot Channel and the Catholic channel and Joel Ostein.

[00:04:22]>> Right. Right. Right. But I'm So you did vote for Trump in 2024.

[00:04:26]>> Yeah, I usually vote right down the ticket, sir.

[00:04:29]>> So let me ask you, considering that you're disgusted that you saw that the celebration of the Confederacy in Florida, why would you vote for a party that uplifts the Confederacy?

[00:04:42]Why would you vote for a party, for example, every April in Mississippi they celebrate Confederate Heritage Month?

[00:04:50]Why would you vote for a party that um that decides to put a put up a photo at West Point of Robert E. Lee with an enslaved person behind him, an image of that?

[00:05:04]Considering how mortified you were by that, why would you vote for a party that wants to keep up Confederate monuments considering what I just broke down to you? Why would you support the party that uplifts the Confederacy or or restores names on bases of Confederate soldiers? Why would you support that party?

[00:05:24]>> 26 year 26 years he served in the military. We have lived on those bases.

[00:05:29]We have friends who have lived on those bases, served, died on those bases. And when you change the name of those bases, you took away part of our history, too.

[00:05:39]And that was >> but the the the names on those bases were were Confederates.

[00:05:44]>> But but military personnel didn't think of it that way. They were their home.

[00:05:50]>> No. No. They No, they they Becky, they did. They knew what they were doing.

[00:05:54]They put on the names of traitors. And think about my family served for fought for this country. My grandfather, my father, and to have names of Confederates on there. So my question goes to you, Becky. Why would you support, forget the naval bases conf?

[00:06:10]Think about everything I just said to you. Why would you support a party that uplifts the Confederacy in this way?

[00:06:17]That's my question, Becky.

[00:06:19]>> Well, it's a it's a very deep thing. You have your pros and cons of everything you do in life. And that's what I'm saying. This this bothers me. This bothers me very much. I like I said, I read a lot of histo I'm getting very emotionally upset here. Like I read um the invention of wings by Sum Kid about Charleston and what happened in slavery there and it just broke my heart. Now that I live in Florida and I live in this humidity and I think about it and I'm like what did they do? Like how did they do this to these people? It's so hot. I can't even go out and pull my leaves. Like how did they do >> Yeah. But I guess Becky I I I but I'm asking you how what are you going to do about it? What are you going to do differently? Because this party that you're supporting, for example, they tore down an exhibit of enslaved people in Pennsylvania, in Philadelphia, my hometown, right? This is a party. You're in Florida. The governor, the governor of Florida, Becky Ronda Santis, he signed a curriculum saying there are personal benefits to slavery. So, I'm hearing your tears, but I want to know what you're going to do in that voting booth, or are you just going to cry and vote the same way? That's what I'm asking you. Like, I'm giving you example after example. One of your representatives in Florida, Byron Donald, said the black family was together during Jim Crow. They continue to uplift the Confederacy and even parts of Jim Crow because Confederate monuments is an act of Jim Crow. So, are you going to change your vote or are you just going to cry and do the same thing?

[00:07:57]Because I we we don't need people supporting the Confederacy, Republican or Democrat, >> White family, to the nuclear family. I am from inner Cleveland. You can't tell me about living in the city cuz I know it. I grew up it. Okay.

[00:08:11]>> Becky, are you going to vote differently? Becky, Becky, will you vote different? That's my question.

[00:08:15]>> It depends because abortion, you have abortion on the bill. Okay. And what about abortion?

[00:08:22]>> The law. That's why I don't get Catholic. Like this Pope, he's going out against Trump. But you know what about abortion? Abortion is against the Catholic.

[00:08:30]>> But Trump, but but Becky, to be fair, I mean, Melania Trump and the president have both come out and said they're pro-choice.

[00:08:38]>> To be fair, >> it's up to the states. And I guess this is where I'm just wondering if it's genuine, Becky, because you're crying.

[00:08:44]But you're willing to dismiss racism and >> you're willing to dismiss that explicit racism that you that's got you in tears.

[00:08:54]Yet the governor of Florida says there are personal benefits to slavery. So it's just very >> I just want to know how you're going to do this differently to consider when you go into the voting booth >> and options. There are many many things you consider when you go into a voting booth and things that like lately the the curriculum in schools. Yes, it's a big one. Um the transgender issues >> have been a lot for me lately.

[00:09:23]>> Wait, hold on. Wait, hold on. Richard, hold on. Hold on. What do you mean by the transgender issue has been a lot for you? What do you mean by that? Um, I have a 30-year-old daughter and when she was in college, I think it kind of became involved to be uh a lesbian, to be bisexual or whatever. Not that she ever was, but it was just like so much different than I don't know. It was so weird. And then the transgender thing started, which is fine. You know, do what you want to do. I don't give a But the the the bathroom thing, I have an issue with I have an issue with >> What is What does that have What does that have to do? But so you must have been outraged then when Donald Trump's administration said that it was okay for trans folks to get gender affirming surgery in prison. That must have really pissed you off, right?

[00:10:15]>> Oh, yeah. Yeah, that does piss me off because I've worked in corrections for years when he retired. Again, what I'm feeling right now, and we have to head out, is just hypocrisy here that you're deflecting cuz I'm asking you if you're going to dismiss racism if you're willing to do that. And let me tell you something what I care about, Becky. I care about a higher minimum wage. I care about people being able to mind their damn business and not having the government in their in their doctor's office or government in their bedroom.

[00:10:47]That's what I care about. I care about making sure that we tell our kids the truth. The fact that you don't know the history of the Gamble plantation, which was started by U. Major Robert Gamble, which was the sugar era plantation, that's a problem. And you didn't even know as a grown woman that these Confederate Confederate monuments were erected during Jim Crow to erase our history.

[00:11:11]And so it appears you're willing to dismiss some ugly things just because this is how you always vote. And that's I don't vote that way. I don't think that way. And you're talking to like a predominantly black audience right now.

[00:11:25]And so the question is why would you dismiss that? I don't think trans folks have any impact on you. I don't think abortion has any impact on you. I don't think gay folks have any impact on you.

[00:11:35]What does have an impact on you is that Confederacy Park that you mentioned that whatever you mentioned there, you're paying tax dollars for that.

[00:11:45]But I'm a nice guy. Becky, final comment.

[00:11:47]>> No, I had no idea. But I took the time out of my day and out of my pocketbook and I paid to go into that park and see what it was. MOST PEOPLE DRIVE RIGHT BY IT. THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S THERE. I DID NOT KNOW the history of the Gamble Plantation because I grew up on Fleet Avenue in Cleveland, Ohio. How in the hell would I know what the Gamble Plantation was until I moved down here?

[00:12:08]>> Well, now that you know and you know that Florida supports that, how are you going to do any How you going to vote differently now that you know this administration supports that How you going to do are you going to vote differently? Does it really matter to you or is it just tears?

[00:12:24]>> It's what there's so much more when you go into the voting booth because when you want to start talking about minimum wage, listen to this. Let me talk because I did >> Becky. Becky, I've had enough. Let me tell you something. Racism for me, bigotry for me, that is a deal breakaker. And maybe you have a a life that's privileged enough where it's not a dealbreaker for you. But for me, it's a dealbreaker. And I can go policy by policy with you with Republicans and Democrats and all that good stuff, but I really don't think it would matter. So, you brought your tears on to the show, but you're not going to do anything different. And that's part of the problem. Thank you for calling.

[00:13:02]>> Go ahead, Richard.

[00:13:04]>> A couple a couple of points here. Uh, one, one, I get I get the argument that like, you know, we lived on these military bases and now the names have changed and so it's it's a cause us to erase our lives on those bases. That sure, I get it. But at the same time I I mean in I I and I know I understand the nonsequittors like oh the trans issue and this issue but let's just talk about what's happening in her own family right like we are h as we have this conversation there are veterans that are being evicted from their homes because the veteran affairs department through doge has upended a mortgage program that made it easy for veterans to get homes that no longer can get homes. So even if you had like if it was abort if it was abortion, if it was all what's impacting you directly, right, is this guy ran and said he cared about the veterans and they're they're passing policies that hurt veteran families, right? Period.

[00:14:05]That should be for me. You vote on the issue that's directly affecting you. Um and I I could sympathize with they changed the base and they didn't ask us about changing the name of the base and we lived on the base and we feel some type of way about it. Sure. But you're now a family who is in who who served our country admirably. Thank you for your service. And now you're a veteran.

[00:14:24]And the the Veterans Affairs Department out of all the agencies in the in the government. The reason why we have the the the term Clay, as you know, tied up in red tape is because we've had a veteran affairs department that has not necessarily been the most effective veteran affairs department. That has existed both in Democratic parties and in Republican parties. At this moment, the VA's the VA department is probably the worst it's ever been because of Doge cuts, because they tried to lay off nurses and pharmacists and doctors. They tried to cut programs that help re real people. Sure, go to the go to the plantation and do all of that, but look at how veterans are fairing in this moment and ask yourselves the Ronald Reagan question. Is your life better than it was two years ago as a veteran family? And based on the policies that we've seen over the past two years, I can answer you that question. The answer is no. Because he's made life harder for veterans. Period. Full stop.

[00:15:22]>> For anybody calling into the show and crying over slavery, the Confederacy, and plantations, your tears don't mean much when you are supporting the administration that is uplifting the Confederacy.

[00:15:37]You don't get a cookie. You don't get a gold star because you're in tears and you were in shock. And while you brought up her family may have fought for this country, my family fought for this country and fought for this country with the name of Confederates on bases. So imagine how that felt. Nothing should be named after a Confederate. And this is not just about names and titles. It's about policy. It's about they're they're using laws from the 1870s to try to convict people of crimes. They're trying to convict Don Lemon using the 1871 KKK act.

[00:16:15]Like they're going into their Confederacy bag.

[00:16:19]So calling into this show and expecting a cookie because oh my god, it doesn't work that way. That's why I wrote this book called Burn Down Master's House to burn down these lies, misinformation, disinformation. Becky, if you're listening, you should buy Burndown Master's House immediately and read it over and over and over. You said you like historical fiction. Read that book because you are deeply misinformed.

[00:16:43]And this is why I tell people that this idea that we're going to get the other side, no matter how many facts that you lay out, it doesn't click. You're crying over a plantation, yet you're in the state that says there's personal benefits to slavery.

[00:17:03]And for me, being a racist or supporting racism is a deal breakaker. I can't support that. That's a dealbreaker for me.

[00:17:12]Coupled with bad policies, with hurting the poor, with hurting veterans, voting against veterans, and so on. So there's that.