What Makes This Film Popular? | The Nice Guys Review

Added: 2026-05-09

[00:00:01]The Frames per second podcast.

[00:00:07]>> Welcome everybody to the Frames per Second podcast. Kenneth Banch here with Rod, Mike, and Spike. What up y'all?

[00:00:14]>> Uh, Patreon voted 10th anniversary [clears throat] of the Nice Guys. So, we're here to give a quick conversation about it. Um, it's a 2016 American Neo Noir buddy action comedy film directed by Shane Black who co-opted the screenplay with Anthony Bagadzi produced by Joel Silver has Russell Crow, Ryan Gosley in it and uh Kim Basager, Margaret Quali, uh Keef David and some other folks. Um, so Shane Blat, let's see what does Shane Blat do? Uh, Lethal Weapon. Oh, Lethal Weapon, Last Boy Scout, Long Kiss, Good Night, Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang, Iron Man 3, and I guess a new version of the Predator, 2018 Predator.

[00:01:02]>> Have you guys ever um Have you guys ever watched this movie before?

[00:01:07]>> This first time I heard about this movie.

[00:01:09]>> H I saw it. It just looked like it wouldn't wouldn't be good to me when I saw it. I didn't have any desire to go to the movies and see it and I didn't have any desire if I saw it streaming somewhere.

[00:01:21]>> What about you? Uh Mike, >> never heard of it. Had no desire to watch it.

[00:01:26]>> Yeah, I I I haven't Yeah, I'm in the same boat as you all. I don't even remember seeing the trailer or the poster or anything. As a matter of fact, I was talking to Rod last night. I I thought we were we were doing an animation movie, but it was the bad guys, not [laughter] >> bad. I seen bad guys. I'm good with that [ __ ] >> you know. But Nice Guys, not so much. I haven't seen this before. But >> I remember when it came out. I um Yeah, I do. Cuz I was like, man, why is Russell Crow and what's the other guy's name?

[00:01:54]>> Ryan Ryan Gosling playing in a movie like this.

[00:01:57]>> I just didn't [clears throat] want to see them in those type of roles.

[00:01:59]>> And so, yeah, just I I just never had any desire to to to see this.

[00:02:03]>> How'd you feel if you watched it?

[00:02:06]>> Pretty much the same. Like, I didn't miss anything, you know, like it was okay.

[00:02:12]>> Mhm.

[00:02:12]>> But that's it. Like I it's not something I would recommend to anybody like, "Oh man, you got to see this this Russell Crow." It's more It's other Russell Crow films I'll tell people to go watch. It's other Ryan Goslin films that I would tell people to go watch. This is not one of them.

[00:02:26]>> Um but I mean it was okay. It wasn't like, "Oh my god, what in the hell?"

[00:02:30]Like, it was just it was just okay. It was just okay. And my expectations were very low.

[00:02:35]>> Yeah. Um, I didn't know what it was till I uh typed in and to watch it late last night, >> which is uh >> yeah, really late. I didn't finish this until like 12 something. Um, and I was looking into it and interestingly enough, apparently it's developed a cult following over the years.

[00:02:56]>> I didn't know that either.

[00:02:57]>> Yeah. Yeah, I just found out that out.

[00:02:59]But, uh, but what about you, uh, Ron?

[00:03:02]Uh, Spike and Mike, >> I I can be quick. The I didn't like any of this. I didn't like a single minute of this. This was [ __ ] stupid. How I don't know why this has a cult following. I didn't laugh a single time.

[00:03:17]This was ridiculous.

[00:03:19]>> I don't get the point. Um, yeah. And why is it two hours?

[00:03:25]>> It's just Why Why was this even voted on?

[00:03:28]>> I think because of the cult following. I think that that's what I I was trying to figure out the same thing.

[00:03:32]>> Somebody nominated >> and I think yeah, Patreon voted for it, but I think because of the cult following when I saw that it had a cult following.

[00:03:38]>> Yeah.

[00:03:38]>> I was like, "Oh, that's probably why uh they ended up voting for it." U But I How do you feel about this fight?

[00:03:45]>> I can see why it got a cult following.

[00:03:47]It's like one of those little fringe movies that not a lot of people know about, but if you know about it, you love it.

[00:03:53]>> Like Pineapple Express or some [ __ ] like that. But um I didn't hate it. I thought Russell Crow did a good job. I like the I like the dialogue more than anything.

[00:04:00]I felt like they were snarky and it was smart, but the story really was uh whatever. I The noir part of it was cool. Um Ryan Gosling did a good job, so the acting was good, but it was just a mid-level story with good actors in it.

[00:04:16]And then the theme of it like carried it.

[00:04:19]>> H four for four, man. Uh I when this was over I was like >> okay >> what you know and I like comedy.

[00:04:30]>> Mhm.

[00:04:30]>> I like comedy but I was I was with you Mike. Like I didn't I didn't laugh at anything. I you know I thought I said well maybe it's just because you know it's it's late and I'm tired but no that I don't think that was it. I'm normally I'm always up late you know. So um I don't think that was it. Even though I had a super busy day yesterday but nevertheless I don't think that impacted I just think it resonated with me at all. I think the beginning of it when they were introducing all the characters and stuff with uh um Healey who's played by Russell Crow and Mr. March played by Ryan Gosling which I know he looks weird with that little mustache he got on or whatever and I know it's the 70s but 77 to be exact cuz we heard Earthwind and Fire and some other tunes playing in the background but yeah I I didn't find the story particularly interesting. You're two guys that started out as enemies that came together as friends to look for this girl, which is pretty much the premise of what it was. So, I'm like, and then in the midst of all of that are these jokes and weird sort of things that happen throughout the whole uh movie. So, an hour and 55 minutes is insane [laughter] for for me. But yeah, so uh Holland, not Healey.

[00:05:49]Holland. Yeah, Holland March. My bad.

[00:05:52]Holland March and Jack Healey. Yeah. But um but did you guys what' you guys think about the chemistry? Did you guys like the chemistry of of Russell Crow and and Ron Gosman at all?

[00:06:02]>> It was fine. I I think for me, I just would have wanted chemistry in a different way, not in a movie like this when you got two actors like that. Um, so >> I never I never it it kind of like what Spike was saying. It was okay. Dialogue was fine, you know, but >> I guess chemistry was fine, too, but it just >> I would have rather it chemistry and something else.

[00:06:25]>> Yeah, this was kind of goofy for them.

[00:06:27]>> Yeah, >> we ain't used to seeing them goofy. This was kind of like had a >> little goofy. That's why I was surprised when you was reading the other movies that he did. None of them really have that type of back and forth or dialogue or whatever it may be. Uh, I thought the daughter did a good job. Uh, Ryan Gosler's daughter.

[00:06:42]>> I think she did a good job in movie [ __ ] >> Felt irrelevant as hell, though.

[00:06:46]>> They forced her in there, which is why I feel like she was playing behind the eightball, but she's she didn't suck like child actors usually do. And uh I thought I liked how she played that role like dead pan kind of serious, but she was still a child.

[00:06:59]>> I did. You think Did you feel like she was irrelevant, Mike?

[00:07:03]>> Yeah. I don't think she really That's what I'm saying. So, she definitely wasn't irrelevant. She just he's a terrible father. I'll say that.

[00:07:11]>> Oh, the cover.

[00:07:12]>> Um, but no, I mean, the little girl actor I meant to look her up after we were done after I was done watching it to see what else she's been in cuz I'm pretty sure I've seen her before.

[00:07:19]>> She good, right?

[00:07:20]>> She was good.

[00:07:21]>> She was good.

[00:07:21]>> Yeah, she was good. It's just I agree with Rod the chemistry between Russell Crow and uh Ryan Gosling. It was just like, >> yeah, y'all have good chemistry, but this story is stupid, so I don't care.

[00:07:34]>> Yeah. I thought it was going to be good when you started off with [ __ ] a nice, you know, set of titties just dead and I was like, "Okay, we got dead titties. I might like this."

[00:07:43]>> Yeah. I guess what I meant by relevant.

[00:07:45]It's just that I didn't think she was necessary.

[00:07:49]Yeah, she solved the case, but I think they made made it that way. This movie could have been totally fine in my opinion without her. Like, why do we need her? You got a movie with Russell Crow and Ryan Goslin and you still added this.

[00:08:03]I think it was to show how Ryan Gosid as a father was rubbing off on her. Like she picked up his investigative skills, but it also was showing because he's that way, he can't properly raise her.

[00:08:15]>> Why do you need that in the story, I guess, is what I was >> to add character depth. So, it's not just here's a goofy cop and another goofy cop and they're trying to solve a goofy case. They're trying to make Ryan Gosling more human >> by giving him something to care about because without her, what's the motivation? Yeah, I feel like just real quick, I feel like >> sure you could do I think it's different. I think there's other ways you could do that because anytime she was inserted, >> I was just like it it it threw me off like why is she in the middle of this this porn industry uh party or why is she at this shootout? Like it's just like yo like why do we have this little girl here? I I can't it it disconnected me, I guess, is what it because it doesn't seem believable to me.

[00:09:03]>> Well, yeah. Well, nothing in this movie is believable. If this was a serious film, then yeah, it would I would I'd be with you. If the tone of the movie was very much like this is too ser if this was The Wire and this was happening with some little white girl, I'd be like, "Okay, this doesn't make any sense. This is silly. What the [ __ ] are y'all doing?" But since the vibe is very threes, not threes company. What's Larry Mo and Curly?

[00:09:26]>> Uh, Three Stooges. Yeah.

[00:09:28]>> Since the vibe is very much Three Stooges, it's like, okay, of course.

[00:09:32]Yeah. Throw a little girl into a porn star party because now we can make the joke of, "Why is this girl at the porn star party?" Yes, of course. Throw the little girl in the middle of a shootout because then we can say, "Hey guys, isn't it wacky that there's a little girl at the shootout?" Hey.

[00:09:46]>> Yeah. For me, that that was Yeah. I'm not saying it worked well. It didn't. It was just it was added to the this is dumb to me.

[00:09:54]>> But that's what they were going for.

[00:09:57]>> Yeah, I I liked her in in this. Um I I think it did, you know, kind of what Mike was saying earlier did really show how how bad he was just at everything, you know. And I mean, we we're introduced to him, you know, in a tub in a full suit, forgetting her birthday and her writing on his hand, you'll never be happy. Um >> Oh, she wrote that?

[00:10:23]>> Yeah, I think she wrote that.

[00:10:24]>> That's [ __ ] up.

[00:10:24]>> I think she wrote it. Yeah. Yeah. So, and you know, it felt like she was a way to kind of offset like, you know, their mishaps and their fuckups and stuff like that to create this sort of a a recentering of everything. Um, is is what I felt cuz when I was like, why the hell is she driving the car? But, of course, he broke uh his hand and he he still needed to solve the case. And then, you know, I think they kind of show that that Healey was kind of supposed to be this good guy, you know, when we were introduced to him. He's punching out a a PDF.

[00:11:04]>> Mhm.

[00:11:04]>> You know, so and then we introduced to to uh Mr. March and he's, you know, >> black hat.

[00:11:12]>> He's a [ __ ] >> And then, uh, he's looking for Amelia and then Amelia hires him to scare Mr. March and that's how they first started interacting. But in that particular scene when we first see Amelia, he was like, "Yeah, you're $7 short." So, you know, so [laughter] it's just like, you know, he's he's a good guy, but it's also probably why she was trying to give him that sob story, but he's also like uh has tendencies to I I don't know if that's being bad or whatever, but he didn't give her, >> man. He jipped that old lady.

[00:11:48]>> Who?

[00:11:48]>> The old lady that was looking for her husband that was dead. Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about I'm talking about Russell Crow's guy.

[00:11:54]>> Oh, I thought you was talking about the other one.

[00:11:55]>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Mr. Yeah, Mr. March.

[00:11:57]March is is absolutely a piece of [ __ ] >> Got you. Got you.

[00:12:00]>> Yeah, but >> Oh, okay. Yeah, I'll keep >> Come on, Spike. Like, she deserved that.

[00:12:05]Like, she deserve like she said when she been missing our sister funeral. She deserved Yeah. You wouldn't take that money?

[00:12:15]>> Yeah, I would. I definitely would have take that money. I don't know for how long. You wouldn't take it, right? No [ __ ] I'm not [clears throat] ripping off some old lady.

[00:12:24][laughter] >> Mercy.

[00:12:25]>> You want to get it to heaven.

[00:12:26]>> She going to give it to >> Yeah, definitely. If it exists, I want to get there.

[00:12:29]>> I would have told her like, "Ma'am, your husband is dead."

[00:12:32]>> Oh, man.

[00:12:34]>> How is that worse than taking your money?

[00:12:36]>> You got to deal with her like >> So, what do you think is going to happen when the case ends?

[00:12:40]>> We couldn't find him.

[00:12:41]>> Oh, that is a good point. I didn't even think about [laughter] that.

[00:12:43]>> We couldn't find him, kid. I don't know [clears throat] where he went to, man.

[00:12:46]Sorry. I couldn't help. You got him on the [ __ ] on the on the [laughter] on the mantle >> in a in a in a blue >> vase or whatever.

[00:12:53]>> Clearly somebody has told that old woman that her husband is dead. She's just ignoring it.

[00:12:57]>> I'm not taking dementia or something.

[00:12:59]>> I wouldn't take that.

[00:12:59]>> I took it that she had dementia.

[00:13:01]>> Yeah.

[00:13:02]>> But it you know, again, he's just he's just he's a terrible guy. Um uh did y'all I didn't laugh, but the the scream that he had when he broke his arm, bro. [laughter] >> I did not expect him to scream like that.

[00:13:17]I have seen that people do think that part was funny. They were like, "What in the hell?"

[00:13:21]>> I wonder if that was improvise cuz that was a a [ __ ] ass scream. [laughter] >> He let out a couple of like shrills throughout this whole thing of like that and this whole [ __ ] and stuff like that.

[00:13:33]So maybe or maybe that's what he added to the character and whatever, >> you know? I don't know. Um >> but yeah, so but yeah, that's that, you know. So that was our first introduction to them. And then later on, Healey is confronted by Keith Davis character, older guy is what he's called in the movie. And Blueface because of the the >> the Ink Ink that burst. It was an inkball or was it ink bomb?

[00:14:00]>> Okay. Ink bomb. Yeah.

[00:14:01]>> From a bank robbery or something, I assume.

[00:14:04]>> Yeah. So they went to kind of try to press on him to give up Amelia and he would not. Now remember in the earlier scene when he was asking March about who his client was, he she he gave that up immediately. He was like, "Damn, you just gave her your client just like that."

[00:14:25]>> But he wouldn't. So again, showing like the difference between the two. But uh but he got out of it and then he goes to hire M. March to solve the case. And then in this particular scene, that's when they said, "Yeah, I heard you're actually pretty good at what you do, so which is why I'm hiring you." And now they're working together. And from there, that's pretty much the rest of the movie. So I guess them kind of setting all of that up. Did you guys like how we went from character introduction to character >> characters meeting and bump heads and ended agreement to working together.

[00:15:03][snorts] >> I think the what did it for me was just the dialogue. It was good dialogue. Like the the story was still weak or what they was trying to do. The setup was weak, I feel like. But I feel like the actors was so good in the little snappy comebacks and back and forths with other people and with each other that I was interested at least.

[00:15:22]>> Okay.

[00:15:23]All right. Um, what about you, Raj? Did you like how they set up pretty much the rest of the movie with these two characters?

[00:15:32]>> It's okay. I mean, I just think the plot was kind of weak. Okay. Well, not Kanye was weak in that with a weak plot, it's going to ultimately just be a weak movie.

[00:15:44]>> I mean, the I think the actors were fine, but >> the plot just wasn't strong enough for me.

[00:15:52]>> A lot of times I felt kind of lost in it. It's like, okay, what's the point?

[00:15:56]>> I still am kind of lost on the full story of what was happening. Honestly, I [laughter] you know >> uh you know I think they went to find this guy Chad and it was some protesters out there. Mike, have you ever done a protest like that?

[00:16:10]>> What were they in front of?

[00:16:12]>> Courthouse.

[00:16:13]>> Yes, they were dead.

[00:16:14]>> No.

[00:16:18]>> Never laid on the ground and pretended I was dead. No. No. Uh I've laid on the ground in like a human they call it like a human chain so the cops can't move you. But I've never just been like, "Oh, I'm not talking to you because I'm dead."

[00:16:32]>> I was at a protest where someone put on a like a bloody fur coat and acted like they were dead the whole time. And I was like, "Will you please get up? This is stupid. [laughter] >> You're not changing anyone's mind. They see that you're a human.

[00:16:44][laughter] >> This is dumb.

[00:16:46]>> That's crazy."

[00:16:47]>> So yeah. So yeah. So Chad was uh Yeah.

[00:16:49]So they found Chad who took them to like the burnt down house Ameilia of of Amelia's boyfriend Dean which uh lead them to going to this porno party I guess of Sid Shadak um and that they were working on some experimental film uh working with Misty on experimental film combining pornography and investigative journalism. Spike, is that something you would watch?

[00:17:17]>> No, that's something he's seen.

[00:17:18]>> [laughter] >> I probably have. No. Um, no, not really.

[00:17:25]I That didn't sound interesting. I thought it was funny the whole interaction at the house when they got there and it was burned down and then the dude was riding by. He's like, "He'll give you $20 if you talk to him, the little dude on the bike."

[00:17:38]>> So, I thought that part was funny, but no, I wasn't interested in the investigative journal documentary. I guess my thing was like who's going to who's going to necessarily take that seriously like seeing a political statement in a porn video I think cuz then they do that with like uh what was that Sarah Palin?

[00:18:00]Sarah Palin was in.

[00:18:02]>> Well, they they were depicting Sarah Palin like she became like this this like >> character >> character that people would like >> people put on a wig and act like they were her >> porn ladies. I've never seen it. They do it with that with every single >> Yeah. popular politician.

[00:18:19]>> Yeah. Popular politicians and different things. But what I'm saying is like who's going to actually take that serious? Like like if like if like if like if like if like if like if like if like if like if like if there was a political message in a porn right now who's going to take that seriously?

[00:18:31]>> But I think they were exposing her actions.

[00:18:34]>> Exposing who actions?

[00:18:36]>> The lady wasn't a conspiracy to they were exposing her for things that she had done >> right >> in porno fashion. So they wasn't making a statement per se. They were just putting her on fun street like you've done these terrible things.

[00:18:48]>> Right. It it to then what? To get prosecuted.

[00:18:51]>> So that's what I'm saying like >> public backlash. Yeah, make it known.

[00:18:54]That's why they spliced it into that film where everybody was watching it.

[00:18:57]>> I mean again, so you say public backlash like who's watching like what if nobody watches porn?

[00:19:03]>> They they cut it into a bigger film, right? Was they always going to do that?

[00:19:06]I I didn't >> I just think we're starting off with the wrong question. What do you mean what if no one watches porn? Everyone [laughter] like what?

[00:19:14]>> Millions and millions of people watch porn. What I'm saying is that who's going to be like, "Oh yeah, I was watching this porno and I saw that she she did these horrible things."

[00:19:23]>> I mean, real talk, I think it absolutely makes the most sense.

[00:19:27]>> I thought it did at first, but >> if you're going to stick a political message in something >> that you want widespread, porn is widespread. And no one's going to Wow, y'all are juvenile as hell, man.

[00:19:42]>> You said it.

[00:19:42]>> I did say it. [laughter] But no one's going to go tell their friend like, "Oh, I heard that this politician was doing some wild [ __ ] and I got it from a porn." They're just going to say, "I heard some wild [ __ ] This politician's doing X, Y, and Z."

[00:19:58]>> I don't know. I I I don't know.

[00:20:00]>> But it's also the kind of movie where I don't, you know, I don't know that we should really be like, "Well, that doesn't really make a lot of sense."

[00:20:05]>> Well, it's just they they put it in the movie. You know what I'm saying? So, I'm just trying to trying to accept what they're trying to trying to get. They weren't they weren't forcing it on people if I'm not mistaken though. They cut it into a regular film. So all the regular people that was going to be there.

[00:20:20]>> People wanted to kill them.

[00:20:21]>> I was asking.

[00:20:22]>> People wanted to kill them because it they they wanted to get rid of this thing.

[00:20:26]>> Yeah.

[00:20:27]>> So my thing is like if somebody going to watch porn, that's not what they going to watch porn for. Right.

[00:20:32]>> Right. They're going to watch porn for pleasure or whatever the case is.

[00:20:36]>> That that's it. after that. You think they really gonna be like, "Oh, yeah."

[00:20:41]You know, I don't know. I just thought it just It just was disconnected for me.

[00:20:47]>> I think they will.

[00:20:48]>> Really?

[00:20:50]>> I think there are some weirdos that watch porn because they like porn, but they also like to watch the story. Cuz if that that was the case, they wouldn't even put a story in there. It would just be like, "Here's these two people, and they're [ __ ] within 2 minutes."

[00:21:01]>> Well, I think they're just trying to create a fantasy, like a plumber coming to the crib or some [ __ ] >> Yeah, but they would make that quick.

[00:21:06]There's [ __ ] Game of Thrones porn.

[00:21:08]There's Breaking Bad. Stop. Why y'all act like y'all never saw this [ __ ] Stop playing around. Y'all know what porn is.

[00:21:14]>> We know what porn is.

[00:21:15]>> You You know there's g any kind of porn that you could think of it exists. Any kind.

[00:21:20]>> Different strokes.

[00:21:22]>> Anyway, [laughter] um >> right, right, right. Spike wanted to say pause so quick.

[00:21:31]>> You know. [laughter] >> Oh my god.

[00:21:34]>> What you talking about, Willis? Right.

[00:21:37][laughter] >> But uh but yeah, they uh so they end up going to this uh porno party or whatever name Mr. D. [laughter] Call Mr. D.

[00:21:46]>> I'm just saying Mr. D.

[00:21:48]>> It's right there.

[00:21:49]>> Anyway, sorry. Go ahead.

[00:21:50]>> Yeah, we see Shann [laughter] uh again a terrible father. She was like, "Yeah, it's all kind of horrors and stuff here." He was like, "What? How many times I told you don't say and stuff?" [laughter] >> That was that was a funny line. I didn't laugh out loud, but it was a funny live, you know.

[00:22:06]>> It was funny when she used it again.

[00:22:08]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I did like that. But um >> how did she get back in the house?

[00:22:12][snorts] >> He put her in the cab, right?

[00:22:16]>> Mhm.

[00:22:17]>> Yeah. But she just got out >> to release or something.

[00:22:21]>> Or she talked the guy into turning around like, "Oh, I forgot my keys. You have to go back."

[00:22:25]>> Yeah.

[00:22:26]>> That little girl was smart.

[00:22:27]>> Yeah, she was really smart. Yeah, she was smart when she realized she got in the car with that blue face. Was like, I need to get out of there. But she was stupid to even get in the car in the first place, >> right?

[00:22:37]>> You know, but she running around asking for Amelia, this fool, Mr. March, playing on cops and robbers on the damn, you know, porch and falls off and finds Sis Shann dead. And then it leads into this big chase. Um, you know, where Amelia pops up and uh like right Ameilia, whatever.

[00:22:58]And uh he ends up killing Blueface.

[00:23:03]Uh anything of >> No, nothing there.

[00:23:08]>> All right, [laughter] cool.

[00:23:10]>> All right, bet. Uh so they somehow found that Amelia's mother is the one uh uh that hired everybody to to find her. So, um, yeah, Judith Cutner, who's an official with the Justice Department, and she was basically telling that Amelia is out of her mind. She kind of crazy. And that, uh, she wants to hire them. Well, yeah, she wants to hire them to find her. Now, we didn't know she was behind everything at the time. Again, showing how March is crazy because she was going to pay 10,000. He said five days. [laughter] >> Like he did something like [laughter] bro you just five yourself some money.

[00:23:52]>> Yeah. I felt that. I was like damn.

[00:23:54]>> Oh you did?

[00:23:55]>> Mhm. I was like she tore it up and then run.

[00:23:59]>> You didn't think at that moment she did it.

[00:24:02]>> I think that was obvious.

[00:24:03]>> You did?

[00:24:05]>> I knew when she started saying she was crazy and the conspiracy. I was like she did that [ __ ] >> This the I don't know. There was the >> It didn't seem genuine. It seemed like she >> though >> to kill your own daughter.

[00:24:17]>> It seemed like she was looking for it to to capture her, not cuz she loved her and wanted her back.

[00:24:22]>> So, did she actually pay to get her killed?

[00:24:25]>> That's what I took from it.

[00:24:27]>> I don't think so. I don't think I thought it was the mom.

[00:24:30]>> I Yeah, I thought the mom was behind it all.

[00:24:33]>> Yeah, >> she wasn't prosecuted or anything.

[00:24:35]>> Well, she's the head of the Justice Department. I'm just saying. But like you could be head of something and then somebody like well you know this person did this and >> I I thought that they implied that it was her.

[00:24:45]>> I think so. I mean not in every situation obviously.

[00:24:49]>> I know that's what I'm saying. Not in every but typically you should >> Yeah, you should like people have to step down from their positions all the time of corporations because >> she's the corrupt head of the justice department. I could see why that that would absolutely make sense that she wouldn't have to pay any consequences.

[00:25:09]>> And yeah, I think you know her her daughter being in the this experimental porno film I think you know was kind of a thing that was lingering with her too.

[00:25:17]>> I thought she was trying to hide that.

[00:25:18]That's what I thought. I thought she like this is a sensitive case because of that and I'm in this position.

[00:25:23]>> That's what I was thinking >> and [clears throat] I don't want anybody to see my daughter doing this stuff. I think I thought that's what it was kind of like on some some Biden [ __ ] Is that not what it was? Was it something different?

[00:25:34]>> Well, he's saying that that he had her killed. Like that's that's going like to extreme. I thought she was just trying to have it covered up so nobody could see it.

[00:25:40]>> Well, that's a good way to have it covered up. Just kill her. Kill her.

[00:25:43]>> Kill you.

[00:25:45]>> Or just get rid of the footage.

[00:25:46]>> Well, cuz she she was going to tell somebody else if she didn't get That's why I feel like she wanted her killed.

[00:25:51]Like I >> she didn't want to get exposed.

[00:25:53]>> I felt like the mom wanted the the footage [snorts] um deleted or >> Yeah. So basically Amelia was was trying to expose her mom for covering up >> the smog thing with the Cadillac converters cuz remember early in the beginning when we was first introduced to March the guy was on the the television [snorts] uh being interviewed and um Pergon or whatever his name was and then that the interviewer asked him about like the the sort of collusion thing he was involved off with. So it it was a story that was kind of out and bubbly and Amelia wanted to expose created the film to expose their collusion and uh and she believes her mother had been killing everyone connected to the film and but March and Healey didn't believe him. This was after they found Amelia cuz she jumped on top of the car after they went to some hotel and rolled up and somebody was in there killing everybody at at the hotel which they looked out and then they rolled right back down the elevator and then she popped on the scene, shot him and then fell and passed out and they brought her back to the house.

[00:27:05]>> Yeah, that was convenient.

[00:27:07]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:27:09]>> Yeah. It was too many like convenient moments in here for me. And then the the black lady called and said uh Tally is was the name Tally. I don't >> I think it was the name Tally called and like yeah you know Judah says somebody's demanding 100k can you come pick it up.

[00:27:24]That was to get and then she you know they were like oh yeah we found Amelia.

[00:27:28]That was to get them out the house for John Boy to show up who was supposed to be the doctor. Um and they went there. The money was fake.

[00:27:37]He fell asleep driving and that's how they found out the money was fake and they realized that oh yeah we've been had so we went back to the house and then there was a shootout.

[00:27:48]>> Y'all like the shootout >> between who?

[00:27:51]>> John Boy.

[00:27:51]>> John Boy and >> I mean do I like the shootout? I mean >> John Boy was he was letting loose, bro.

[00:27:59]>> John Boy wasn't playing.

[00:28:01]>> He was I was Oh [ __ ] He bought some dick [ __ ] >> [laughter] >> Um, so yeah, big [ __ ] but didn't hit nothing. It was just a bunch of shooting back.

[00:28:11]>> Then he just left without doing nothing, right?

[00:28:13]>> Well, the police were on the way, >> so that's why he had to leave. Yeah.

[00:28:17]>> The part for me is when he threw that girl out the window. I was like, oh [ __ ] I would not.

[00:28:21]>> That was hilarious.

[00:28:22]>> I was like, godamn. And then he said >> and they was like, did you They were like, did you hear that? He's like, yeah, I just threw [laughter] the >> girl out the window. That was the coldest [ __ ] for me. That was colder than the shooting. He just whipped the gun out and started shooting at him.

[00:28:36][laughter] >> That was >> Oh man, >> I couldn't believe he did that.

[00:28:41]>> I could throw out the window.

[00:28:44]>> She was down for the count.

[00:28:49][snorts] >> Yeah, that [ __ ] threw me off.

[00:28:50]>> Yeah. Um Yeah, I'm with you. Like cuz there were a couple of times I mean this he has an automatic weapon, bro. And >> he should have hit something. Yeah, he should have at least hit uh um March cuz he wasn't even ducking down all that kind of gross.

[00:29:04]>> Yeah. So, I don't know. It's But it's movies, you know. I think what got me and what really kind of confused me was when Amelia refusing to listen, got up, left, ran, and he's driving down the car.

[00:29:16]>> Oh my god.

[00:29:17]>> And uh and she was like, "Hey, I need help." Mike, were you surprised that they actually killed Amelia off?

[00:29:24]>> Yeah, I didn't expect that.

[00:29:26]>> Me either. Yeah. When when he shot her through the window, I was like, "Oh, she's probably not dead."

[00:29:31]>> Yeah.

[00:29:31]>> But [clears throat] >> that was point blank.

[00:29:33]>> What did he say? What What did What did he say? Wow.

[00:29:36]>> Something like >> something like that. Like, I can't believe my luck. Yeah, >> that [clears throat] was funny.

[00:29:39]>> Yeah.

[00:29:40]>> Went through all that [ __ ] Just pop her ass right there in the middle of the street.

[00:29:43]>> And then just smashed up.

[00:29:44]>> Mhm.

[00:29:45]>> Yeah, that was crazy. I was not expecting that either.

[00:29:47]>> Yeah.

[00:29:47]>> Yeah. And all this happened. By the way, I I guess I want to ask real quick cuz we're we're basically near the end of the film. Um, was he the world's worst detective as his daughter said?

[00:29:57]>> No.

[00:29:58]>> Nah, cuz he figured it out at the end.

[00:30:00]>> Mhm.

[00:30:01]>> He got the the west he got the hotel [ __ ] wrong. He just stumbled onto it.

[00:30:07]>> I said, but when you tamper with greatness, >> need a little luck sometime. [laughter] >> That's what they say.

[00:30:12]>> No, he was fine. He just drank too much.

[00:30:15]>> Yeah, that exactly. That's my point.

[00:30:18]>> Yeah. Well, yeah. He did figure out that that the lady that hired him initially saw that she was watching the film, found it, and that's when he was like, "Oh, yeah. World greatest detective, huh?"

[00:30:27]>> Yeah. That part was actually pretty cool cuz I was not expecting that. But she kept saying, "I saw my daughter through the window >> and you figured out like Yeah. No, someone was in here watching a movie, >> you know, on the projector."

[00:30:39]>> That was that was pretty cool.

[00:30:40]>> It was that was clever.

[00:30:42]>> Yeah.

[00:30:43]>> Yeah. Because you had they had you doubting for a minute. And you're like, "Wait, is the the big breasted woman just is she alive somewhere?"

[00:30:52]>> Yeah.

[00:30:53]>> Now, I still don't know that they really explained or maybe they did and I just didn't pay attention what actually happened to her cuz like was she [ __ ] in the car and they Why was she out butt naked and got I don't know. Didn't they never explain that?

[00:31:09]>> I think it was just some mob [ __ ] I think they probably just put her in the vehicle and drove it down off a hill.

[00:31:15]>> They put her in a vehicle with no with no shirt on.

[00:31:19]>> Yeah, it didn't make any sense.

[00:31:21]>> Yeah, Misty was the one that was that was a or Misty, right?

[00:31:25]>> Cindy Mountain or something.

[00:31:26]>> Misty Mountain.

[00:31:28][laughter] >> Misty Peak.

[00:31:33]>> Jeez, bro.

[00:31:34]>> Cindy Peak, >> you were close.

[00:31:36]>> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] >> Jesus. So anyway, at the end of the movie, so now I'm like, "All right, I don't really." So she's dead. They were tra What are we doing here? So then you have they were showing the movie at this Las Vegas show and then you have another shootout. Older guy and uh Healey were fighting again. Uh no, no, March. And he fell off the balcony and he fell in the pool and >> the other guy fell. Yeah.

[00:32:02]>> Yeah.

[00:32:03]>> The ending left a lot to be desired, >> bro.

[00:32:07]>> Yeah, I agree. I I I I was like that's it. Like he just gets the roll of film and >> it's over.

[00:32:15]>> We're at the end.

[00:32:17]>> So >> something happened to the mom. Did they ever show that? They never showed anything happened to the mom. We talked about that, right?

[00:32:21]>> Cuz nothing happened to the mom.

[00:32:23]>> No, she got arrested.

[00:32:24]>> Yeah, the cops brought her in.

[00:32:26]>> Got they were on one side of the chairs and she was on the other side of the chair.

[00:32:30]>> Yeah.

[00:32:31]>> Oh. Oh, so she did get arrested. I don't Damn.

[00:32:34]She was saying that it was Detroit that wanted Amelia dead, not her. So maybe that kind of clears up whether or not she wanted to >> kill her daughter or not.

[00:32:42]>> That's what I'm saying. I don't think she wanted to kill her daughter. I think that it was just two things happening.

[00:32:46]>> But she lying though, cuz she said she hired March and Healey to keep her safe.

[00:32:51]>> She sent the doctor over there, >> right?

[00:32:53]>> The killer sent John Boy to the house.

[00:32:55]>> She sent him.

[00:32:56]>> Yeah.

[00:32:58]>> Unless Tally was ly Unless the black girl was lying. Tally was lying.

[00:33:01]>> Yeah.

[00:33:02]>> No. Didn't the mom didn't they didn't they tell her they found the girl and the mom was like I'm going to send the family doctor over.

[00:33:07]>> That's what I thought.

[00:33:08]>> That's what the tally that's what Tally said, but we didn't hear it directly from Judith.

[00:33:13]>> So the assistant could have been lying the whole time. They just weren't clear.

[00:33:18]>> But I still think the mom was behind it.

[00:33:20]>> I do too.

[00:33:21]>> I don't think the mom was behind it.

[00:33:22]>> And they Yeah.

[00:33:23]>> I forgot Tally was an actress. Y'all probably didn't watch America's Next Top Model.

[00:33:27]>> Yeah.

[00:33:28]>> Yeah. That was Yaya.

[00:33:29]>> Yaya. Yeah. I totally forgot she was in movies. She's good. She was good in this.

[00:33:36]>> Yeah.

[00:33:36]>> I hope I'm not getting this wrong. Is she She's not the one in the Marvel, is it?

[00:33:40]>> In the one in what?

[00:33:41]>> Marvel.

[00:33:42]>> No, that's male. Yaya.

[00:33:45]>> No, no, no, no, no. U not Mr. Marvel, but uh she plays the black. Who's the black girl that plays in Mrs. um Marvel?

[00:33:54]She was in the um >> You talking about Monica Rambo?

[00:33:58]>> Yeah. That's definitely not Yaya.

[00:34:00]>> They don't even look alike. Your ass racist as hell.

[00:34:02]>> I said I started That's what I started off saying. I hope I'm not getting this wrong.

[00:34:05]>> Thank god they ain't Asian.

[00:34:07]>> They look alike to me though.

[00:34:08]>> They don't, man.

[00:34:09]>> Yeah. I don't think it's close.

[00:34:10]>> No.

[00:34:12]>> One's darker. This one's skinny.

[00:34:14]>> And one sk Yeah. One's super skinny.

[00:34:16]>> You look at the pictures, you'll be like, you'll see.

[00:34:18]>> Bro, Monica Rambo is not skinny.

[00:34:19]>> Who's Monica Rambo then? Who's the act?

[00:34:21]Who's the actress?

[00:34:22]>> Her name is Monica Rambo. I don't know.

[00:34:24]>> But anyway, yeah. So, that that's it.

[00:34:26]Patreon. Uh, let I I really want to know why you guys voted for this one. Um, I'm kind of curious to see.

[00:34:34]I didn't particularly care for it. I don't think I missed anything by not having ever watched the film.

[00:34:41]>> Um, yeah. I don't know.

[00:34:43]>> I want to know what the cult is. Why is there a cult following for this movie?

[00:34:46]Why?

[00:34:47]>> Yeah.

[00:34:48]>> Yeah. But anyway, any other final thoughts?

[00:34:52]>> Hell no. Y'all can have this [ __ ] [laughter] should be like a rating system or something.

[00:34:58]>> Yeah, we need to [clears throat] start a rating system.

[00:35:00]>> Yeah. Yeah. Uh anyway, man, we'll leave it there, man. We'll catch you guys next time. We out. Peace.