Revenge of the Sith Might Not Be as Good as You Think. - Fireside Discussion

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[00:00:00]I mean, I love quoting the M warf fight scene, but some of the dialogue is not very good.

[00:00:04]>> Oh, but it's so iconic.

[00:00:05]>> It's so iconic. I love it. I love it.

[00:00:07]People are gonna hate that.

[00:00:08]>> Like, what? What's bad?

[00:00:10]>> If you're not with me, then you are my enemy.

[00:00:13]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:00:16]>> Stupid >> a little bit. But no, but that's the thing is like the Batman scene right before that is great. And like >> it's still good. It's better than Attack of the Clones. I I don't think it's that bad.

[00:00:26]>> I think a lot of stuff Anakin says in that fight is dumb. Yeah, for >> I think a lot of his his anger, his evil lines are like you're kind of like, "Bro, what are you doing here?"

[00:00:35]>> Yeah. When >> you were the chosen one, great delivery. Like genuinely great delivery.

[00:00:40]>> So good.

[00:00:41]>> Yeah. It's It's so good.

[00:00:53]>> Drew, I wrote down an opening point to talk about and I'm not talking about it.

[00:00:58]I have actually wanted to tell this story since the inception of the podcast. Are you ready?

[00:01:02]>> What?

[00:01:03]>> Yeah. I I'm blindsiding you. You have no idea what I'm talking about.

[00:01:06]>> I'm so ready. Go.

[00:01:08]>> Did you know this is kind of a cool stole my line lore thing?

[00:01:12]>> What? I'm so intrigued.

[00:01:13]>> Revenge of the Sith is the first movie you and I ever watched together. I came over to your house.

[00:01:18]>> Is this true?

[00:01:19]>> Yeah. In middle school, I came over to your house. I think this was after our school hoown. I came and spent the night like we had a sleepover when we were in middle school >> at my old house.

[00:01:30]>> At your old house.

[00:01:31]>> Yeah.

[00:01:31]>> And we watched Revenge of the Sith.

[00:01:33]>> This is >> And I have waited, I'm not even going to lie. I've waited almost a year to tell the story. And I told you one time, I'm going to tell a story that you were not going to see coming. And this is it.

[00:01:41]>> I forgot this happened entirely. You You've unlocked a completely new memory.

[00:01:45]>> So, in a certain way, we have to We have to love Revenge of the Sith.

[00:01:49]>> This is like our probably our second sleepover ever. I think >> I think it was our first. No, I remember our first.

[00:01:55]>> It was me, you. It was after the the back to school picnic. Me, you, and Isaac McLemore.

[00:02:00]>> Oh, you're right.

[00:02:01]>> Isaac's no way he watches this.

[00:02:04]>> There's no way.

[00:02:05]>> Uh, good. Hey, love you, Isaac. You're a good guy.

[00:02:07]>> It was just It was It was a random group of people.

[00:02:10]>> Okay, this was like one of the first.

[00:02:12]>> Yes, I think this is true.

[00:02:13]>> And I think this was the first movie we ever watched together.

[00:02:15]>> Wow.

[00:02:16]>> And like in a way, we have Revenge of the Sith to thank for Stole My Line.

[00:02:22]Maybe. Yeah. Low key.

[00:02:23]>> Do you think Oh, we probably would have kept watching movies, but like that was the that was a start.

[00:02:27]>> That was the first movie we watched and now this is like our thing.

[00:02:30]>> This is like a full circle thing kind of. That's cool.

[00:02:33]>> That's cool.

[00:02:34]>> Yeah. I don't know. Just thought I would toss that story in there.

[00:02:36]>> That's awesome.

[00:02:37]>> Welcome back to Soul My Line, a Fireside film podcast where we are doing a Star Wars marathon.

[00:02:41]>> It's true.

[00:02:42]>> I'm Grant.

[00:02:42]>> I'm Drew.

[00:02:43]>> And Drew, I want to open this with one last round of prequel Mythbusters.

[00:02:48]>> Okay, let's do it.

[00:02:48]>> Are you ready for this?

[00:02:50]>> I am so ready.

[00:02:51]>> Okay. This is question number one. Okay.

[00:02:54]And this is all based off what some people will say about the prequels, whether we agree with it or not.

[00:02:58]>> Right.

[00:03:00]>> Number one, is this the best Star Wars movie?

[00:03:04]>> No.

[00:03:04]>> Okay.

[00:03:05]>> It's not.

[00:03:06]>> Why not?

[00:03:07]>> Look, I I understand where you're coming from as if if you're in this camp. Um Logan Bell is in this camp. At least he was like a long time ago. Uh Logan might watch this, but I don't even know.

[00:03:20]Probably.

[00:03:20]>> Probably not.

[00:03:21]>> Probably not. Um I I think there's the highs are high.

[00:03:27]>> Yeah. Oh yeah, for sure.

[00:03:29]>> The most of Farfight Sick.

[00:03:31]>> Obviously. Obviously.

[00:03:32]>> Um but the lows are also low.

[00:03:36]>> I would agree.

[00:03:37]>> There are much more consistent Star Wars movies from a plot, story, and dialogue perspective.

[00:03:42]>> Yeah, I like The Last Jedi. Holy Rage Bait. I You just saw the anger in his eyes. No. Okay, keep going, please. like Empire is really where I was going.

[00:03:51]>> I know. No, Empire is the best one.

[00:03:54]>> Um, so yeah, I I think I don't know. I think this might be top three.

[00:04:02]>> Wow.

[00:04:03]>> Maybe we got to see how these rankings shape up because, by the way, we forgot to do rankings on the last episode, but >> Attack of Clones is better than the Phantom Menace >> and we'll we'll keep up our rankings on this. But, um, >> yeah. Okay. All right. We've settled that one. Some people are gonna disagree, so comment below your thoughts.

[00:04:19]>> Comment below the movie as a whole >> and then argue your case.

[00:04:24]>> You're saying this is the most peak Star Wars movie. Yeah, you're probably right.

[00:04:28]>> I can get behind that.

[00:04:28]>> Like you're probably correct. Like this is peak Star Wars, but it isn't the best.

[00:04:35]>> It's not the best.

[00:04:36]>> Uh, number two, is the dialogue really that bad?

[00:04:39]>> I think this is kind of mellowed out, honestly.

[00:04:42]>> Really? I think so. It's pretty bad.

[00:04:43]>> There is some bad >> Attack of the Clones is probably worse.

[00:04:45]Attack of the clones has the worst dialogue.

[00:04:48]>> I think some of the stuff like I mean I love quoting the Mor fight scene but some of the dialogue is not very good. A >> but it's so iconic.

[00:04:57]>> It's so iconic and I love it. I love it.

[00:04:59]People are going to hate that.

[00:05:00]>> Like what? What's bad?

[00:05:02]>> If you're not with me then you are my enemy.

[00:05:04]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:05:07]>> It's dumb.

[00:05:08]>> Stupid >> a little bit. But no, but that's the thing is like the Batman scene right before that is great and like it's still good. It's better than Attack of the Clones. I I don't think it's that bad.

[00:05:18]>> I think a lot of stuff Anakin says in that fight is dumb.

[00:05:21]>> Yeah, for sure.

[00:05:21]>> I think a lot of his his anger, his evil lines are like you're kind of like, "Bro, what are you doing here?"

[00:05:26]>> Yeah. When >> you were the chosen one, great delivery.

[00:05:30]Like genuinely great delivery.

[00:05:32]>> So good.

[00:05:32]>> Yeah. It's It's so good. Um Okay. I don't think the dialogue's that bad.

[00:05:37]>> Okay.

[00:05:38]>> I think it's serviceable. I think there were some low moments, but I think we average.

[00:05:42]>> It's not that good. No, it's not.

[00:05:44]>> But but some of the highs like are very quotable, so you got to give it a plus there. Um, >> does Anakin's downfall feel rushed?

[00:05:52]>> Yes, >> 100%.

[00:05:54]>> I don't even know if there's much we can even say here besides like if you watch the Clone Wars, you think, oh no, it it it's very flushed out. if you're watching just the prequels.

[00:06:03]>> But I would even argue >> do it >> that like this kind of reccons the Clone Wars.

[00:06:12]>> Yeah. Well, I would say the the Clone Wars >> at least his arc >> the Clone Wars kind of reccons it like >> I guess that's it. I guess >> I I think that this movie says, "Oh, we are we ended with the Attack of the Clones, >> right?

[00:06:24]>> We need to get to >> we need to get to Darth Vader."

[00:06:26]>> And this movie was very obviously written with no Ahsoka. This movie was very obviously written with no Mortise episodes. Yep.

[00:06:33]>> This was very obviously written with >> I mean a ton of the Padme stuff that happens in the Clone Wars for example.

[00:06:38]Like there's so much that goes on and a lot of the distrust that is created between Anakin and the Order. All that super fleshed out in the Clone Wars.

[00:06:46]This doesn't really this kind of acts like that doesn't happen because this movie was made first. So, >> which is fair.

[00:06:54]>> Yes. But I would argue near the end of the Clone Wars, we're like Anakin's at like 40% 30% bad.

[00:07:03]>> Yeah.

[00:07:03]>> On the scale.

[00:07:04]>> Yeah.

[00:07:05]>> I would argue here we start with Anakin 100% good.

[00:07:08]>> I would say like 80% good.

[00:07:10]>> Yeah. Okay.

[00:07:11]>> Like he still like lurches at Kuku with anger. Like you still he has these >> Yeah. Okay. He has these tendencies that you you have seen maybe at their worst in Attack of the Clones and you're like, but this guy's like a great Jedi Knight and you just see that. So, >> um, no, I agree with what you're saying though.

[00:07:31]>> But I I think this movie's first step is like we skip the entire Clone Wars and I know the show exists, but the show didn't exist in the narrative structure of these two movies. And that's a really weird choice for me. Like we don't we barely touch on it.

[00:07:45]>> Yeah. It's like Attack of the Clones is setting up the Clone Wars. That is the whole purpose of the movie. And then three years later, we are in a spaceship like in a >> and the Clone Wars is wrapping up >> and like General Grievous is introduced.

[00:07:57]>> This is the culmination of crazy like the kidnapping of Chancellor Palpatine is literally the culmination of the Clone Wars, >> right?

[00:08:03]>> And was like, ah, that's the opening to the movie.

[00:08:06]>> And I know the movie is not really about the Clone Wars, but >> I also agree with what you're saying, >> but that's what your your second movie is setting up.

[00:08:12]>> And that's Well, we'll get to another myth.

[00:08:15]>> Okay. Obviously, the Clone Wars exists and so if you go back and watch the Clone Wars, it makes the prequel so much better really as a whole. It flushes out all the world building, all of the overarching story. It's great.

[00:08:26]>> But yeah, if you take these just as these three movies, it feels like you're left wanting more and then you get more and that's great, but like you're left wanting more if you just watch these movies.

[00:08:34]>> Yes. I I I do think that's a like a negative of these movies though is that if you take them as they are >> Yeah. and not have to do I'm not gonna call it homework because the Clone Wars is just good. But like >> but if you're doing your Star Wars homework, >> if you're just an everyman watching the six Well, I guess the nine Star Wars movies.

[00:08:55]>> Yeah, >> these movies feels very disjointed.

[00:08:58]>> Yeah, all three of them.

[00:08:59]>> I I I completely agree.

[00:09:00]>> Yeah.

[00:09:01]>> Uh is the CGI that bad?

[00:09:03]>> It's better, but it's still not great.

[00:09:05]>> I think it's kind of on par with the Attack of the Clones. Maybe there's some better stuff, some worse stuff.

[00:09:10]>> So, >> I think the space sequence is sick at the beginning. Yeah, looks great. Looks great.

[00:09:14]>> Um, but like some like the fights with the super battle droids, I'm like, >> yeah, >> I al randomly I thought some of the scenes where Anakin and Pame are talking at night actually look kind of good.

[00:09:23]Like I know they're blue screen, but that city skyline behind a looks pretty good. Like >> you could tell that that there's a difference between 1999 and 2005 here >> and it's not like still great, but >> they made strides in that six-year gap.

[00:09:37]So, >> um, is the acting that bad? I think it's better than Attack of the Clones.

[00:09:42]>> Yeah, I would agree. I would agree. I think Padme is significantly stronger in this movie.

[00:09:47]>> I would agree. I think I would argue Hayden Christensen is better.

[00:09:50]>> I would also agree. I mean, the scene where he's like, "What have I done?"

[00:09:53]Like, so good.

[00:09:54]>> Yeah.

[00:09:55]>> But then when he's like, "I hate you."

[00:09:56]He's like, "Okay, maybe not that good."

[00:10:00]>> Yeah. Uh, I think my biggest problem with this movie is about an hour and some Jane Jen and it's where like Anakin is having this wrestle which I think is pretty good up until this point.

[00:10:13]>> Yeah.

[00:10:13]>> And then he goes to Mace Window and he says, "Palpatine's evil. We have to go stop him."

[00:10:19]>> And this bothered me when I was 11.

[00:10:21]Okay.

[00:10:22]>> I was like, "This doesn't make any sense."

[00:10:23]>> Okay.

[00:10:23]>> And then >> we we storm Chancellor Palpatines's room or whatever. We have this fight relatively well choreographed. It's sick. And then Anakin busts in and completely switches sides kind of. I mean, I I agree. There's this core to it that I picked up on in this rewatch that I've always kind of picked up on. Like he wants to save Padme.

[00:10:47]>> Yeah, I know.

[00:10:48]>> And the Jedi Order has given him literally no solutions to saving Padme.

[00:10:52]Yoda's like, "Nah, she's probably cooked, bro." Like, "Oh, that sucks. That's my wife. I have a kid on the way. That's bad. And then >> Palpatines's like, "No, you could save her with the Force." Which obviously at the end of the movie it kind of ends up being, "Oh, she died because he turned back and if he had never gone down this path, but like in the moment Anakin sees, oh, Palpatine's about to die.

[00:11:19]>> He's the only one that can save Padme, >> right?"

[00:11:21]>> And so he cuts off Mace Wind's hand just to stop him. He's not even trying to kill Mace, right? And then he ends up dying. He's like, "What have I done?"

[00:11:29]The switch up for me that bothers me is that he immediately goes from that of like this moment of tension of like, "What have I done? I guess I'm Lord Vader now." to like, "Oh, I'm killing younger."

[00:11:40]>> I'm a kill children, right? Yeah.

[00:11:42]>> That jump is crazy to me. Yeah.

[00:11:43]>> I don't think the moment where he's like, "What have I done?" I don't think that moment is bad.

[00:11:47]>> I I Okay, I agree that the impulsive moment of chopping Mace Wind's arm off is is not is not bad.

[00:11:52]>> Yeah. I do think that like going to Mace Wu implies that you've come to terms from a character perspective of like that Padme could die because I'm having these dreams and based on my past dreams mean something.

[00:12:07]>> Yeah.

[00:12:08]>> And if I tell the Jedi Council this thing, they will probably go kill Chancellor Palpatine.

[00:12:16]>> Yes.

[00:12:17]>> That's the logical conclusion that I can make as Anakin Skywalker.

[00:12:21]>> Yeah. So if I tell Mace Wendu, I have come to terms with the fact that I might not be able to save Padm and he accepts that. But then and I know that like Chancellor's Palpatines's obviously like the devil on the shoulder like tempting Anakin midfight. Yes.

[00:12:36]>> So like the impulsive moment I don't hate but I totally agree like >> going from impulsively chopping Mason Windows arm off to killing children >> ginormous leap.

[00:12:48]>> Uh I do think to counter your point a little bit.

[00:12:50]>> Okay. Okay.

[00:12:51]>> Anakin historically, especially in Attack of the Clones and then in the Clone Wars. This is true.

[00:12:56]>> He has always wrestled with my duty as a Jedi and what I think is right.

[00:13:01]>> Yeah.

[00:13:01]>> To the point where like it's infuriating to Obi-Wan and to literally the entire Jedi order, even at times Ahsoka, Padme, literally everybody. And he is like never really grow like he he does not grow from it at all. And it's it becomes a lovable thing about Anakin, especially in the Clone Wars. But like he's always struggled with like here's my duty as a Jedi. Here's what I feel is right.

[00:13:23]>> Yeah.

[00:13:23]>> And I think I kind of read it and in the moment it's my duty as a Jedi to tell Mace Wu.

[00:13:29]>> Okay. Yeah.

[00:13:30]>> That Darth Cidius is Darth Cidius. That Chancellor Palpatine is >> Lord Tyrannis is he's over everything.

[00:13:38]>> And then the moment of impulse of like I need to do what's right of like I need to be in the fray. I'm going to go jump into this fight. And then he's kind of like don't kill him like you shouldn't.

[00:13:49]That's not the Jedi way, which he just wrestled with with Count Dooku, >> right?

[00:13:54]>> And like so he's like trying to do the right thing, but he's also abandoning his duty at times, but he's also following it. It's >> and impulsive all at the same time.

[00:14:01]>> And like that's Anakin. So I feel like that makes sense to me.

[00:14:04]>> But then when we jump to killing younglings, that's the jump that doesn't make sense.

[00:14:07]>> I completely agree.

[00:14:08]>> And that that's a jump that's too far.

[00:14:10]So we're on that was a tangent on >> I agree with you. I agree with what you're saying.

[00:14:14]>> Okay. Okay, you you've convinced me.

[00:14:17]>> I'm going to skip around. Did the Clone Wars redeem this movie?

[00:14:22]>> Redeem is a strong word.

[00:14:23]>> Redeem is a strong word.

[00:14:26]>> Contextualize and make it better. Sure.

[00:14:27]>> Yes. Improve. I would agree.

[00:14:30]>> Again, Anakin's arc doesn't feel like an arc if you take the Clone Wars into consideration.

[00:14:36]>> It feels like a zigzag.

[00:14:38]>> If you like zoom out really far, you're like, "Oh, I I see it." But then like it feels like you backtrack a ton when you start revenge of the >> cuz Anakin feels like the super mature character that is kind of on the fence with the order is really frustrated about Ahsoka stuff >> but like he's really mature as like a experienced Jedi Knight, >> right?

[00:14:57]>> And then you start Revenge of the Sith and it feels like you're in the middle of the Clone Wars or even at the beginning of the Clone Wars where he's like he's a really hot shot Jedi Knight but like he's not really mature yet.

[00:15:08]>> Yeah.

[00:15:09]>> So I don't know.

[00:15:11]I think I think it was a it's a it's a needed maybe not needed. It's a it's an appreciated reccon, but a reccon nonetheless.

[00:15:20]>> Yeah.

[00:15:20]>> Okay.

[00:15:22]>> Okay. Yeah. Okay. All right. Uh is the asking if the acting was that bad? No.

[00:15:28]This is actually what I wanted to ask.

[00:15:30]Is the lightsaber fight the best lightsaber fight in all Star Wars? The one on far obviously >> it's good. Is it better than >> Duel of Fates?

[00:15:40]>> Dual of Fates >> because I feel like that's the other one. Those are the two.

[00:15:43]>> This they're both so iconic.

[00:15:46]>> Um I again I'll say this for this trilogy. Every fight sequence take away CGI gripes is good.

[00:15:54]>> I would say the only one that I don't like is when Palpatine kills Kit Fisto and like dude that's Kit Fisto.

[00:15:59]>> Yeah. That that seems bad. But like yeah, I agree for the most part. All the lightsaber fight stuff is really good.

[00:16:03]Um, >> I mean, low key, I I think I'm going to say yes.

[00:16:09]>> I'm also going to say yes. I think Duel of Fates is also up there and it's like neck and neck. I think it has really great emotional stakes. I think this one is just better. I think the music's better.

[00:16:21]>> I would argue you think the music is better than >> I don't know. I I'm I take that back.

[00:16:26]I'm taking that one back. The music's great. I think the imagery is better.

[00:16:31]>> Yeah. I would say this one's more emotionally impactful.

[00:16:34]>> I would agree. This is This feels more like a culmination of everything.

[00:16:39]>> Music's almost as good.

[00:16:41]>> Yeah, I agree. Um, yeah, I would say this is the best lightsaber fight.

[00:16:47]>> Okay.

[00:16:47]>> I would ar I would put Darth and Luke's fight in Empire up there, too.

[00:16:51]>> I would say that that is probably emotionally the most impactful, maybe besides this one.

[00:16:57]>> Yeah.

[00:16:59]>> I don't know. Like the I am your father scene. So emotionally.

[00:17:02]>> No, I agree.

[00:17:03]>> Okay.

[00:17:03]>> I will say that they stepped their choreography game up.

[00:17:06]>> Oh yeah. Yeah.

[00:17:07]>> Significantly from >> four, five, and seven.

[00:17:12]>> Some way with all that money they had, they never recaptured it. Literally, no matter what they made, specifically Disney could never recapture it. I don't >> Yeah. Don't even We're not even gonna mention 789 right now.

[00:17:23]>> Oh, golly.

[00:17:24]>> Sacrifice in there are trash. All right, that's all the Mythbusters moments that we had for probably this whole series, but thank you for joining us on Prequels Mythbusters. Drew, how was it revisiting the first movie you and I ever watched together, >> which is crazy.

[00:17:40]>> That is crazy. It's true.

[00:17:41]>> I forgot about this moment. Uh, it was good. I mean, again, it's hard it's hard to analyze his without nostalgia. The the rose tenant glasses that I wear.

[00:17:51]>> Maybe start with nostalgia and then we'll we'll >> Okay. Uh, General Grievous. I love playing him in Lego Star Wars.

[00:17:58]>> Yeah, he's really awesome. Also, he looks great in this movie.

[00:18:01]>> He does look really good.

[00:18:03]>> CGI is amazing.

[00:18:05]>> Um, yeah. I mean, I like there are so many moments in in the last week of our lives where I'm was waiting for like little hearts to appear above characters. Like subconsciously >> I was, this is funny, uh, because I played Lego Star Wars so much growing up. Anytime that one of the like death sounds or the yell sounds from one of the prequels characters would happen in the movie, I'd be like, that's when they that's what they pulled that audio from when Obi-Wan dies. That's his clip. Like it was in Attack of the Clones. So, >> I don't know. I just I love like a Star Wars guy.

[00:18:40]>> It's such a go to game.

[00:18:41]>> The Mustafar fight scene was my favorite level in the whole game.

[00:18:44]>> Really?

[00:18:44]>> Oh, yeah. I would play that one over and over again with >> I thought it was so hard.

[00:18:47]>> It was it was super hard. But he like my brother Ethan and I would play this over and over again and like we would get mad because there'd be like the one where you're running down the hallway uh and we would just keep falling and it would take us like 30 minutes to get past it.

[00:19:02]But it was awesome. So >> it's such a great game.

[00:19:05]>> Oh man.

[00:19:05]>> Um but yeah, I think I think this movie is is very fun.

[00:19:13]>> Yes.

[00:19:14]And like it it it it still feels very not 180, but the pivot is strong from act two to act three.

[00:19:25]>> It it's it is.

[00:19:26]>> And I don't think I noticed it as much as a child, but now I'm like that is jarring.

[00:19:31]>> Yeah. If you think about like if this actually happened like wow that like someone going from I I'm wrestling with this thing to I am murdering children.

[00:19:41]Like to me, this movie jump feels very like act one and two are fun. You're like, "All right, we're still going on these missions. Obi-Wan's on I don't even know the planet with the where he meets Grievous and he fights um like we have an antagonist. It's Grievous."

[00:19:58]Interesting. Okay. Uh Dooku's dead.

[00:20:01]Interesting. All very fun. Star Wars Eye.

[00:20:04]>> Huge pivot. Now we're killing children and Obi-Wan and Anakin are fighting.

[00:20:09]>> Yes. And like there has been tension in these two movies, not really on screen, more verbally from Anakin being like Obi-Wan's a really hard master and doesn't understand me.

[00:20:21]>> Yeah. Like that's where 90% of the tension >> as soon as they're together it's like they don't even act like >> they're bros and it's like I mean like like this is the most baffling part about these two movies is like you build up to this Obi-Wan and Anakin fight and it's super emotional but only because of hindsight.

[00:20:40]>> Yeah.

[00:20:41]>> Like I think if I were watching these movies in theaters I'd be like I don't really care about their relationship because I haven't seen them act together.

[00:20:48]>> Obi-Wan's on Kamino and two >> Yeah. When you watch seven seasons of the Clone Wars and they're going on so many misadventures together, you're like, "Yeah, they were brothers."

[00:20:56]>> And you feel it some, but >> you do feel it in these movies, but it it is very not the focus when it should have been. This is the correlation of this trilogy. I think the whole thing here, which is kind of what makes the prequels impressive and also frustrating, is that George Lucas had these huge concepts that he wanted to convey that are like I mean they span decades of characters lives and you he crams them into you could say three movies, but in reality, Phantom Menace doesn't really function well. It's kind of two movies. Like you get you don't even get Obi-Wan and Anakin's relationship at all in the first one.

[00:21:36]Like literally at all.

[00:21:37]>> They see each other for maybe five minutes.

[00:21:39]>> Yeah. Like they meet and Anakin tags along and that's it.

[00:21:43]>> And then Obi looks at Anakin at the last shot or something. It's like, "All right, you're my >> and literally all of their relationship is implied." And I again, I know we get the Clone Wars. I keep saying it, but if you take these as just movies, you're left wanting so much. Yeah.

[00:22:00]>> So, >> I mean, yeah, I think it it kind of makes me sad, but it's okay.

[00:22:07]>> Yeah, me too.

[00:22:08]>> Here we are.

[00:22:08]>> Um, let's Well, I have I have one big question for you, >> okay?

[00:22:13]>> And this is like a big discussion that I didn't plan on, but I have wanted to talk about with you today. Let's say, and I don't think they should do this, okay?

[00:22:22]>> But let's say 50 years go by >> in real world time, >> okay? And they announced they as in whoever owns Star Wars that they are remaking nine the nine movies. They they are recasting they is one director >> like they they're going to remake the nine movies >> like this story >> like the the Skywalker saga. They're going to remake them.

[00:22:46]>> Okay.

[00:22:46]>> I don't think they should.

[00:22:48]>> Okay.

[00:22:48]>> But would you be interested in it? And do you think that Star Wars as a whole, like the Skywalker Saga, could improve from a remake if somebody really knows the source material and knows how to fix some of the issues with it?

[00:23:04]>> I would say no.

[00:23:06]>> Okay.

[00:23:06]>> I would not be down.

[00:23:08]>> Okay. No, that's fine. Let's say they did do it. Like, let's say it's happening.

[00:23:13]>> Okay.

[00:23:14]>> Do you think that it could succeed?

[00:23:18]>> They're going to remake Star Wars at some point. Like, it's it's inevitable.

[00:23:21]Oh, no. But Star Wars is so big.

[00:23:24]>> It's inevitable. It's going to happen.

[00:23:26]>> I'm totally agree when when Star Wars IP comes out, but >> they remade Harry Potter and Harry Potter came out like a decade ago.

[00:23:32]>> But Harry Potter dec >> Well, not really.

[00:23:36]>> Harry Potter's universe is is like this.

[00:23:37]Star Wars universe is like this. There's so much story.

[00:23:41]>> You take the nine movies, it is kind of like I mean it's it's bigger, but it's like nine movies. Right.

[00:23:47]>> Uh >> I don't want them to. I don't want you to hear that. I want them to. But >> hypothetically, when they do, >> watching these three movies, I was like, if if a director who knew how to really bring the best out of this story got a hold of the prequels, these movies could be really >> incredible. 100%.

[00:24:07]>> I just dropped my phone.

[00:24:09]Um, yeah. I mean, I I I think a a liveaction Anakin and Obi-Wan dynamic better than this would be really interesting and really fun to watch.

[00:24:22]>> Yeah.

[00:24:23]>> So, I think that would be interesting. I think again like I Star Wars the lore and the what they're trying to do is really great and like possibly >> I mean I think Star Wars is on the levels of like Lord of the Rings but like >> the the story beats well I think like culturally I'm not saying >> you're saying like like in in scope.

[00:24:46]Okay.

[00:24:46]>> Yeah. Yeah. I think that was that was a supposed to be a whole other podcast.

[00:24:51]Oh, this L stubble.

[00:24:53]>> I think that like the the narrative of Star Wars in the plot is as interesting as Lord of the Rings.

[00:25:02]>> Yeah.

[00:25:03]>> I think the execution >> is is wildly different.

[00:25:06]>> It's very bad. Well, >> no, that's too strong. It's It's >> hit or miss.

[00:25:12]>> Yes. Yes. Okay. But like I think Anakin, Obi-Wan, Death Star, Rogue One, Andor, like all of this, >> Luke Skywalker, Darth Vader, >> Kylo Ren as a character >> 100%.

[00:25:25]>> It's interesting. It's good.

[00:25:26]>> There's a lot of depth here. Is that depth accurately explored? Not really.

[00:25:31]And that's what's frustrating.

[00:25:34]>> Until you get a seven season animated show, which is absolutely peak.

[00:25:38]>> It is.

[00:25:39]>> And Rebels is great.

[00:25:41]>> Yeah. and andor's phenomenal, but like you do like not that Clone Wars and Rebels was Disney Plus, but like you don't need >> Star Wars doesn't feel as cohesive as it needs to.

[00:25:51]>> You shouldn't need extra stuff to flush out your movies.

[00:25:55]>> Your flagship product >> I shouldn't need andor Clone Wars Rebels to make my flagship movie better.

[00:26:02]>> Yeah, that's fair.

[00:26:03]>> It should be supporting >> and it it is but it's carrying at times.

[00:26:07]>> Yeah.

[00:26:08]>> Okay. I agree. I agree. That's my Star Wars rant.

[00:26:11]>> It's a good Star Wars rant. Um, I'm going to shoot yours. Okay, let's >> I think we need to rate this episode like episode three.

[00:26:18]>> Like on a stole my line rating or >> Yeah, stole my line rating like Blu-ray movie theater, which I did see it last year. Movie theater. True.

[00:26:25]>> Um, streaming Tuby, which never be on Tubie, but like if it's free and then avoid at all costs. It's kind of our setup.

[00:26:33]>> I'm going to say theater.

[00:26:35]>> I was also going to say theater.

[00:26:37]>> Okay.

[00:26:37]>> But I have an asterisk by this.

[00:26:40]only go watch this in a movie theater after you watch the first two like in the weekish before, >> right?

[00:26:46]>> Because then you're acclimated. I've said this before, but being acclimated to this movie makes it a better experience.

[00:26:51]>> Yeah. No, I think it's fair.

[00:26:52]>> So that's that's my two cents.

[00:26:54]>> Yeah. It hurts me.

[00:26:55]>> I own it on Blu-ray >> to not put a Star Wars movie on Blu-ray.

[00:26:58]It really does.

[00:26:58]>> I I own it. I love it. But like if you were a general movie go >> generally it's a theater experience.

[00:27:04]>> Yeah. And I think the third act because of the epicness, not necessarily the narrative cohesion, because of the epicness is what puts it in a theater category.

[00:27:14]>> I agree. I agree.

[00:27:15]>> Yeah.

[00:27:16]>> Um this is the last thing unless there's anything else you want to talk about with Revenge of the Sith.

[00:27:20]>> No.

[00:27:21]>> Um let's let's talk about where we're ranking this in our current rankings that are somewhere on the screen.

[00:27:27]>> Okay, we have Phantom at two >> at currently two >> and one >> at number one. This was This is pretty straightforward. This is the best of these three.

[00:27:37]>> 100%. It is.

[00:27:39]>> Where other movies slot in after this is where it's going to get interesting.

[00:27:43]>> This is pretty We agreed on a lot.

[00:27:45]>> Like, trust me, audience, this will not be.

[00:27:47]>> We're talking about Solo tomorrow. I have no idea if we're going to rate Solo.

[00:27:50]>> No way. We put Solo above.

[00:27:53]>> Probably not. But like, Solo's a more cohesive movie than this.

[00:27:58]>> It makes more sense.

[00:28:00]The lows of Solo are a lot higher than the lows of this movie. I would agree.

[00:28:04]>> If you take them as movies, someone would probably say, "Oh, Solo, >> we were about to piss so many people off."

[00:28:09]>> I don't think we're ultimately going to do it. I'm not saying we're going to do that, but like once we start to get into these rankings, I don't know where we're going to slot stuff.

[00:28:17]>> It's going to be so interesting.

[00:28:19]Oh man, here we >> look guys, all opinions are welcome here at Stole My Line. And honestly, if y'all like hate what we're talking about right now, if you're like, "Why are you not saying this is the best Star Wars movie?" Trash us in the comments. I'll respond.

[00:28:33]>> It's not the best Star Wars movie. I I I will fight on this one.

[00:28:35]>> No, it might end up being top three. So, don't hear us say that it's going to be the worst one.

[00:28:40]>> Yeah.

[00:28:40]>> But just be reasonable. That's what we're saying.

[00:28:43]>> Be respectful of each other, but disagree. That's fine.

[00:28:45]>> We have a lot of other Star Wars movies coming out um that we're reviewing.

[00:28:49]>> That's true.

[00:28:49]>> Solo and Rogue One are up next, and then we're going into the original trilogy.

[00:28:53]We're going to talk about some TV shows maybe in here. Maybe we may do a Star Wars hot takes episode, which we've talked about. I don't know if I I I think people are going to love that.

[00:29:06]>> Should we round out this series?

[00:29:07]>> I think that's the play.

[00:29:08]>> Okay. So, y'all start commenting.

[00:29:10]>> Yes. Right now.

[00:29:11]>> Star Wars hot takes. And we we'll mention this down the road, but >> yes. Yes, we will. Um, so let us know what you think there and we'll dive into all of that because I think a Star Wars only hot takes episode would be really awesome.

[00:29:23]>> That would be fun.

[00:29:23]>> Um, and yeah, we got other stuff coming out. Obviously, we have I mean Back Rooms is coming out at the end of this month. Uh, we have Spider-Man the Odyssey in July. House of the Dragons is about to start coming out.

[00:29:36]>> Lanterns.

[00:29:37]>> Lanterns. We're wrapping up Daredevil the Punisher special.

[00:29:39]>> Super roll.

[00:29:41]>> Sorry.

[00:29:42]>> Lots of things happening.

[00:29:43]>> Yeah. Lot lots of great stuff. So, hit that subscribe button if you haven't already. Stay tuned uh for what we got coming up. And hey, we love you guys.

[00:29:50]>> We do.

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