Throughout history, the United States has repeatedly partnered with China to break free from British imperial control, from the 1868 Burlingame Treaty that granted China nation status to Nixon's 1972 opening, with current US-China negotiations under Trump and Xi focusing on energy stability and intelligence sharing to counter British financial influence, demonstrating a recurring pattern of Anglo-American cooperation to support Chinese sovereignty against British hegemony.
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President Trump is meeting with President Xiinping in China. They are making agreements that are going to shape the world for many decades to come. People don't know China's history of having to deal with and endure the assaults from the city of London. That's what we're going to talk about in this video.
>> Hey Ian, thank you so much for making yourself available.
>> Yes, of course. And uh I asked you if this was something you could talk about what was going on, get your perspective on the US and China. And apparently you have a history quite as does the family. Yeah. Yeah. I lived and worked in China in and out of China, greater China, Beijing and Shanghai mostly, but everywhere from Harbin in the north all the way to Sushi and Hoou in the south. uh as an investment banking, private equity analyst primarily in technologies, you know, tele tech technology space, telecommunications, telecommunications infrastructure services, um digital media. We did a lot of digital media stuff. Uh we worked on the Lenovo deal with the sale of Lenovo of IBM's PC division to Lenovo and worked on all kinds of things, power generation, pebble bed nuclear reactor stuff. um just an immense amount of things and then you know so that was me. Um >> you you must be like 200 years old to pack all that stuff in.
>> I was in my early 30s. It was only for four years. Um >> right.
>> Um maybe a little bit more than four years, just over four years. Um but it was interesting. It was fascinating. I spent a lot of time in and around all over the country and you know dealing with the big CEOs and not so we didn't have they didn't have so much the investment firms at the time you know early stage most of what we focused on was early stage or pre-stage stuff um they do now um but it was a this was uh 2003 into in 2008 it was a very fascinating time there's a lot going on um but there was a lot of British there a lot of city of London you couldn't run across any deal anywhere in any town that the city of London, some, you know, some representative of the city of London or one of their banks wasn't there. It was fascinating and very closely connected to the H the WHO family >> and his son was on the board of one of our investment funds.
>> Now, the Hoo family was that involved in >> Yeah, he was the >> the coup recently or something. The attempted coup >> cuz Yeah, cuz I heard that that was they were connected to the city of London.
>> Correct. Correct.
>> And GG Ping's not having any of it.
>> None of it. So, >> let's before we dive a little bit in, let's let's talk a little bit of the history that I know in the Berling game family, right?
>> Uh in 1867, Anson Berlingame became the Lincoln, the Americans ambassador to China, to theQing specifically, right?
To theQing Royal Court.
The there was a treaty signed the Berling game sewer treaty which gave China nation status amongst you know in the west failian model. Well that was directly an attack on the British system because the British system did not want the Chinese to be a nation state. They did not want them to have independence.
They did not want them to compete on the world scene as the manufacturing center because at the time ch your you know Britain you know what what was already labeled as Britain at the time was the world's you know leading manufacturing or they did it in India or somewhere else and then it had to go back to England and then get shipped back out etc. Well, China was the big so they, you know, the British were heavily involved in destroying theQing emperor, theQing royal family, theQing control, you know, the theQ theQ theQ theQ theQ theQ theQ theQ theQ theQ theQing empire such that China was in a perpetual state of conflict. So the Americans went in under Lincoln and signed a treaty that gave China nation status which allowed China then to join you know nations as a peer and begin to sign treaties of their own. This was a direct attack with against the British. Anson was uh would resign as the US ambassador to China would be legally adopted into theQing royal family and because you had to be and would become the ambassador planet, you know, some long damn title, right? Fancy title. And then he represented theQing Royal family as their representative.
Remember what I said about the Burnley game sewer treat? So he went out then and represented theQing uh working with Gong Lee the crown prince. Um I've been in his palace. I've been in the tea guard tea room where ants and burling games sat and quite literally it's extraordinary experience. Um so give me a second. So he Anson then went and out to different nations and empire you know kingdoms, empires etc. and he went out to sign treaties with them with you know on behalf of theQing on behalf of China as a nation state. He died in that capacity in St. Petersburg in 1870 signing a treaty between the Chinese and the Russians right the Tsarus regime you know the Roman laws and theQing right but really between the two states. Okay, that was the first time America, the Americans had tried to help the Chinese break free of the British.
>> Wow.
>> Okay. Now, what was going on at that time in America that the British were involved in >> the Civil War?
>> The Civil War. Now, the argument's been made that, you know, the historians come in and they dirty all this and they say, "Well, this was about so we can get cheap [ __ ] labor to build our railroads and do all of the labor stuff because we were sending soldiers to war." That's actually true, but that's not the reason. The reason was to try and help the Chinese break free of British control by making them a nation state and then bringing them into, you know, the family of states under treaties, etc., so that they could start bettering their position.
They could start fighting back, right?
Okay. What did China release in or what did the British release there during that time and shortly after as a way to counter that? the opium wars, >> right? Okay.
>> Do you know >> I can see so many parallels with what's happening now.
>> Correct.
>> Cuz I could have said and they didn't do this, right? But it's the same effect.
Corona virus.
>> Yes. Yes.
>> Anyway, please please carry on.
>> Okay. Very good. So now let's go to the next thing that the British did.
um the next thing that the British did to maintain and keep China down, right?
Because throughout most of human most of history over the last 4,000 years when China's going, China is the biggest economy in the world by far.
>> And it happens to do with the nature of the Chinese civilization, right? And they are a civilizational people way older than anybody on earth except the Persians >> and they're kind of peers, right? in terms of longevity, but the Persians have never achieved the success of the Chinese. Not even close. Uh, in terms of economics and and power projection and all of that. Okay. So, give me one second. The next time the Americans try to break the British control over China, well, what was Nixon's visit really about in the 1970s? Was that really about Russia?
No.
>> Or was that about helping China escape communism and to become an economic powerhouse again so that it could fight, you know, it could rise up in the stage, you know, in in the world powers, right? Could rise up as a world power and help us fight back against the British Empire.
What >> wasn't Nixon a British agent like most US presidents?
>> Nope. That's why they couped him.
Nixon literally said they tried to do me like Jack. And what did he mean, >> right?
He had Nixon allowed that all to happen, you know, the coup and all that to happen. He didn't fight back because they were going to assassinate him.
>> And then when he left presidential office, he didn't have government security detail. He had his own.
>> Yes. Yes.
>> Because he didn't trust them. and he had help from Chinese intelligence and etc. and Russia well not Russian intelligence that was still Soviets. Okay.
>> Okay. So So let me let me just get this straight. So Watergate wasn't Nixon doing it. It was a hoax.
CIA >> Yep.
>> implicating him.
>> Yes.
>> Just like CIA MI6 FBI attempted to implicate Trump with the Russia gate hoax. Correct. It's exactly the case. Exactly the case. And some of the same people were involved.
>> All right.
>> Right. Okay. And and Roxan, you know, Colonel Towner Watkins can articulate that way better details. Right.
>> Give me one second.
>> She scares me sometime with her level of detail. I'd hate to be in an argument with that woman. Oh my god.
>> Yeah.
IBM, you don't know how terrifying it is for me to have these interviews with you and Yen and Blair and Roxan and Susan Coinder. Oh my god.
>> Um, so, well, I'm just a puppy dog. Um, or kitty cat probably. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Right. Excreen beret kitty cat.
Yeah.
>> Um, give me one second. what we are doing right now with Xi um and what I suspect's been happening since literally Xi took power in 2012 is that Russia and the US have been doing intel sharing on who all the British assets and and operators are in the Chinese government. Oh, >> and he's been steadily removing them to because if America is finally going to break the Anglosphere free and that includes the United Kingdom and the crown at some point if it survives, we have to sever this 300 plus yearon control by Rome and now Brussels, you know, their uh out uh their bureaucratic center. We have to break their control of the anglosphere.
But we can't do that on our own. We we have to have the two other great powerful civilizations working together.
And that's Russia and China.
Okay.
So Russia and the US are sharing it with are sharing intelligence with the Chinese about who the British assets are, the British spies and spooks working on undercover to undermine Chinese >> independence and sovereignty.
>> Yes. Yes.
>> Okay. Now, isn't there a danger here that you're that this is pure speculation?
>> Sure.
But but mistaken because we don't know what's going on behind closed doors.
>> So what are the indications of it?
>> Uh look who's look at the Chinese look at the specific people who we know have been arrested for corruption in China since 2012. Excuse me. and execute you know many of them not majority but a good number of them executed look at what where their wealth was it was in the spider's web in the British banking system look at the foreign investment firms there's a great documentary everybody should watch called the China hustle now the people who did it are communists so you know they're they're proscription Well, their description of what the problem is absolutely solid. Their solution is ludicrous. Freaking communist, right? But their, you know, the one thing that the communist, you real communist, the, you know, bullshevik types really do get well is they they really do describe the problem quite substantively, right? Like Pinky, the French economist in his book capital, right? Lays out 200 years extraordinary, but every one of his solutions are like, are you freaking kidding me? your your freaking ludicrous commie.
God bless him though, right?
>> Um, so give me a second. Look at the investment firms that were involved, the banks that were in involved, the jurisdictions that were involved in the the laundering of the wealth of the people that had been rolled up over the last 13 years for corruption, Chinese people. and then look at the efforts by Britain by you know by the city of London but you know the intelligence community to attempt to drive us to war with China allout attempt to include using the 200 million Chinese that don't live in China but live all over the former British well in the Anglosphere and elsewhere to make it look like the CCP is involved in all kinds of nefarious things that they are not involved involved in.
>> Okay.
Okay. Now you're twisting my head again, Brett. The Right. No, they are involved cuz I've read in the Guardian. Well, I haven't read in the Guardian. I don't really I don't do that. It's too distasteful. But I might have a glance every now and then at the headline.
>> But the mainstream media will tell you >> more like flagagillation.
When I when I when I've I punish myself by looking at the Guardian when I've been naughty.
>> Yeah.
>> Um Howe has all this spy >> Mhm.
>> Um >> Yeah. Yeah.
>> spy architecture inside. There's the massive >> embassy in London that China's building.
There was a report on X about some guy running some Chinese police station in in New York City. There's the there's the social credit system that they got in China >> which isn't true >> and then they they they exported Corona virus and they want to destroy and they want to destroy us all.
>> No, you know what do you do as an intelligence? You know what do you do if you want? Okay, there is no way possible that any state could win a war or all states combined could win a war against the Chinese short of just nuking them. They have too many people and they have too much manufacturing capacity and when pushed to it, the Chinese can fight.
>> Yeah.
>> If they're well supported, right? If they have enough weapons and enough munitions, etc., they can fight. Look at China's history. They have a long history of large battles. Well, they'll just expend, you know. So, while we in Europe were mustering 3,000 men for some big war, you know, some big battle that we honor to this day, the Chinese were losing 500,000 men in a conflict.
One 500,000, right? So, they know how to fight and they think very differently than we do.
So, if they are armed and supplied properly, they can fight.
>> And they think long term. They think collectively and I don't mean in a communist manner.
>> Correct. Correct. Correct.
>> And my understanding manner. Yeah.
>> While they're also they do have different languages and sex, they're largely not quite homogeneous but but like civilization.
>> Well, they are straight up civilization.
That's a given. That's why they've survived, you know, 13 major, you know, um uh revolutions and invasions, etc. and and the new power that comes in and I was saying this in 2000s because I was hearing early 2000s I was there talking to elites and they were bemoning this you know love of money and everything was going on. And I was like, just hold on. Just wait.
Look at your own history. Within 50 to 80 years of the new power coming in and the new wealth being and power being oriented and structured, now they look to well, what's next? They're they become more Chinese than the dynasty that was there before. That's why people keep saying the CCP. We are intentionally driven to say CCP all the time because that's been, you know, the scops has been against the CCP. See, the the Chinese leadership still uses CCP as the designation, but they haven't been communist in over 30 years. I call them the Hong Dynasty, the Red Dynasty, because that's really how we have to look at them.
>> And they are at the stage now where they're not a conquering power. They're not they they've gone through their collapse. They've gone through their 80 years. They've gone through all of that.
Now they're a dynasty and they're cleaning up, you know, the the remnants of the British Empire. Um, they are an ancient civilization. Again, they're only second in longevity to the Persians, and they have succeeded in ways that the Persians never did.
Persians have only ever really been a power culturally. And Persian cultural power is very, very, very substantive.
And I don't take away from that at all.
Right? But the only reason Persia sustained this long is because when it comes down to it, they retreat to those mountains there in Iran and it's really hard to wipe them out >> and they're really good at soft power and they always have been. You know, go read the old Greek writings and everything, right? When it came to a straight up fight, they were never never so good, right? Look at Alexander the Great, etc. But the Chinese on the other hand, very good. Now the other thing is the Chinese have are never been an expeditionary peoples. They can't be because for throughout all of their history they didn't have to worry about invasions from the sea. The Sea of Japan is very dangerous. It's hard to get sh in the old days. It was very hard to get sea power across. Just ask the Mongols and the Yun who tried it twice and lost tens of thousands of men. Right? So China has always had to worry not its southern southwest border because that's the Himalaya mountains. China has been invaded numerous times. Where's the Great Wall? It's in the north, in the west, right? Because China has had to be a land power, an inwardly focused land power, a defensive power its entire history.
So, they don't think like we do when it comes to warfare. They don't think expeditionary warfare like we do. They don't build for it. They don't plan for it. They don't design for it. They're not oriented towards it. We are sea power people. And so we are and so we project upon them you know war fighting politics you know intention all that kind of stuff. So give me one second.
The thing that has made the Chinese so extraordinarily resilient throughout their history is two things. One is the richness and complexity and depth of their civilization which I've studied since I was a child. The second piece is is that they have always been an industrial powerhouse.
Always for several thousand years. They are a very industrious people that that orient and organize themselves in such a way that they're they base their sense of worth off of their productive capacities.
And while we were in there in the 2000s and into until Xi came in power, they were being transitioned from a manufacturing productive econ economic base to a financialist economic base to extract and again people go watch China hustle to extract all of their wealth out of them that they built up becoming a uh production you know manufacturing powerhouse. They were being set up to be, you know, step seven of the financialist kill chain. And we helped them and the Russians helped them to throw that, you know, to throw this.
We're still going to use the British system, but you know, the financialist system to throw it off. And now, you know, Xi is substantively enough in power after this last coup attempt, which was quite literally the number one or number two guy in the Chinese military, right? The Red Army. He was a British asset.
He was a staybehind British asset.
>> Okay.
>> And they were childhood friends.
>> Wow.
>> So, of course, he's the last one because you don't, you know, you don't want to just move it. You don't want to be Mau, especially after having had Mau, right?
You don't want to be Mao and just, you know, start, you know, off with their heads to use a little Red Queen uh English reference, right? Um, so my sense is is that America is doing as America's done since the 1860s and that is we are working with China to help them break free of the of the British.
>> Right. Okay. And the parallels that I can see there was the 16 civil war in the 1860s >> and then we don't have a hot civil war in the United States. We have a civil war through subtifuge.
>> Correct. Correct. Correct. And then there was the um what was it? The hoax.
Watergate.
>> Yeah.
>> And then the Russia gate hoax.
>> Yeah.
>> And Nixon as a sovereigntist.
>> Yep.
>> President. Trump as a sovereigntist president.
>> Yep.
>> And then the British using opium to undermine and attack China.
>> Fentinel here >> and fentinel there. And then the British now using the Corona virus and propaganda.
>> Yes.
>> To undermine >> Yes.
>> Um >> Yes. And then on non-stop scops about how bad that how much how much evil the the CCP the Chinese are involved in around the world when 90% of that has nothing to do with the Chinese at all.
And it's the 200 million Chinese that live outside because you got to remember the British Empire moved Chinese all over the empire because they were good.
They were good industrialist. They were good business people and they are still all over the British, you know, the former British Empire, the Commonwealth to this day.
>> Singapore, Malaysia, in Britain. Yep.
>> Canada, >> right? And so how many of that 200 million, how many do you think it would take to be, you know, 100 thousand that are British agents and they're not to be, you know, trained in the school? No, they're just their businesses, you know, they're they're they got a nice business, they got a nice imported export business, they got a nice, you know, banking business, they got a nice whatever business, and that's made possible because of favorable business deals, but they're going to act on behalf of the city of London.
Well, how many of those does it take to make it look like the CCP has this insidious network all over the world doing all of this malevolent stuff?
And if you were the British and you were the financialist and your whole power, soft power, wouldn't you do that?
>> Yeah. And and the other thing that that you would do and that they they do do is they point the finger elsewhere.
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah.
>> To distract attention, >> but with what they're doing themselves.
Yes.
>> Always. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> And that and that they're the threat that we need to watch out for. And it's funny and again, Ian, I can see this playing out as a social worker with some of the families that I work with with the perpetrators of abuse.
>> Yes.
>> And then it played out as a much larger on a much larger scale. The same pattern of behavior.
>> Mandal brought Yeah. Mandel brought sets, right? You know, the fractal systems.
>> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
>> Okay. So then the Chinese the the Chinese are bringing in social credit system.
>> Oh, >> and digital ID. No, but the the SCAP goes and also I I can't I really should know. I really should know. This is why I don't do what you do >> because I can't remember the name of the the Muslim people in the southwest that are supposed to be in concentration camps.
>> Weaguers. That's also not true. That's also not true. You know why that weaguers have been put into prison camps? Because we were using them on the Muslim um terrorist uh vector to try and weaken China from the inside.
>> Oh, come on. The British would never do that. Ian, >> never.
>> Apart from Boka Haran, >> by the way, this wasn't just the British, this was the Americans, too, right? So, we part it was the intelligence community along with some of the special operations community sadly because we were misled or willing participants. I don't know.
>> Captives speak captives. Well, misled, right? One, the easiest people to deceive are the genuine people.
>> Somebody who is genuine, genuinely strong, capable, warfighting guy, does things because he has a very strong moral compass. He's the easiest man to deceive.
>> Right. Yeah. Okay. Because then they're doing it intrinsically.
>> Correct. Because >> and all you have to do is know what is the little lever of information to feed in that then unpacks and they're like, "Well, we got to do this because it's the right thing to do."
>> Yeah.
>> Right. This gets to another conversation we had about moral and ethical injury.
When guys realize this, this is when these guys get PT, you know, operator syndrome, PTSD, etc. is when this specific realization unpacks in their head and they're like, "Holy [ __ ] I went into that house and killed those people for a lie."
>> Yeah.
Yep. And I did it night after night.
Some nights I did five houses in a row.
>> Yeah. And leaves them wrecked.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. So, the Weaguers was a SCO up.
>> Yep.
>> Uh social credit system.
>> That's the Rockefellers that developed that to try to get it in under Huentina and Huenta's people and she's been dismantling it.
Now, one thing we do have to understand is that there there is the China firewall.
There's a heavy restrictions on the flows of in and out of China. Very little restriction on flows of information inside China, but there are heavy restrictions of flows in and out of China. And the reason is is because the Chinese helped build the technologies that were used to do color revolutions around the world. And they didn't want to cover color revolution at home.
>> Fair enough.
>> Which we had done to them more than once over the last 200 years.
>> Right. There is no peoples on earth that have been more destroyed and slaughtered in vast numbers and and either in warfare, you know, internal conflicts of warfare or or drugs than the Chinese.
Several hundred million Chinese died over the over the, you know, roughly the two centuries that the British have been in there meddling, keeping them down. Couple hundred million.
Right.
>> Yeah.
>> So, of course, they would put up a firewall that, you know, try to prevent color revolution.
And the way in which you succeed at, you know, how do you stave off revolution in a in a massive population? You cannot do it through draconian measures. It doesn't work. That ensures revolution.
The Chinese have learned this over 4,000 years, 4,500 years. What do you do? You make a safe, protected environment in which Chinese can be Chinese >> and flourish. Yeah.
>> And flourish.
>> You take care of your people.
>> Correct. Correct. Now you you seek out real grievances and you figure out how to address them. And you do things like we've stopped doing and we need to bring back. You execute your own leaders who are doing corrupt things that are abusing the Chinese people. And they do.
Like there's been a couple of these oligarchs, Chinese oligarchs, like one who fell off a 2 and 1/2t rock wall in France and somehow broke his neck and died.
>> Two and a half foot. That's a mighty mighty height.
>> That's a mighty That's some Humpty Dumpty [ __ ] >> Yeah.
>> Okay. And then the other thing that that I have figured out is a scop is the way the Chinese in Africa are portrayed.
>> Yes. seen through this seen through the same lens or the projection of the Europeans that they're going in there to suck out the wealth from those nations, take advantage of them.
>> Yes.
>> Yeah. Because that's what we do.
>> Yes. Exactly. So, we are projecting upon them our behavior and our action. That's absolutely right.
>> And it's not how they operate.
>> It's not how they operate. See when you have that size of a population in that that confined an area you are you know and just think about complexity right complexity theory right um think about the difficulties you have as a population using the rter scale right so for each one digit you go up it's a 100x increase in you know the impact right so if you go from a a um level one rtor scale earthquake to a level two rtor scale earthquake the destruction damage is 100 times okay think about that as society populations as populations and I don't you know let's just roughly say for every 200 million people or 100 million people your complexity goes up one rter scale level well you're going to have to spend vast amounts of energy and effort just continue you know just making sure that internal pressures don't get out of control.
You're not going to have much time or energy for the rest of the world.
The only thing you're going to care about with the rest of the world is one, they leave you alone. Two, they're not inside the, you know, inside your house, inside your kingdom stirring up troubles that don't need to be. And three, you need to make sure that you have the inputs necessary that you can keep your people employed, keep your people fed, and keep them as happy as possible.
That's all you care about.
>> And then China has had sufficient resources, natural resources that it hasn't needed to go conquering other nations. And then the resource that it's flourished that that has flourished is its people which then allows it to build a massive manufacturing base.
>> Okay. So not quite true. So okay, China is not necessar necessarily >> China is not necessarily rich in natural resources geographically >> but land farmland >> landwise farm wise they actually can feed themselves if they want to right if they transition from some of this manufacturing etc. So that's not a that's not a true statement. What people say what China's been the the thing that makes the Chinese so powerful unlike this British system is that the Chinese will go around the world and pay a fair market price for something whereas the British and and thereby they don't have to invest heavily in military intelligence all these you know complex expensive operational things because they'll just pay you a fair market price. Now, they're going to try and get the best price that they can, but they'll pay you a fair market price.
This is what's made China so immensely wealthy and successful.
They're actually pretty damn good at mercantalism.
>> Okay. So, I could do business I'm an African nation. I could do business with the Chinese >> and and they'll give me a good price.
They'll haggle. Or I can or I can do business with the French or the British who stab me in the back and steal from me.
>> Right. Oh, and by the way, the resources that are coming through the the the British or the French, they only have access to that because they've got in massive investments in intelligence operations around the world, destabilizing countries, destabilizing populations, military assets, starting wars here and there, which all of which is vastly expensive. And they're doing that so that they can get the inputs at the lowest cost possible and then sell it to the Chinese at a markup. So why would the Chinese want that anyways?
It's like why don't we just go to the source and help stabilize that country and that people? We'll share some intel.
The Chinese are actually pretty good in intelligence because they've been dealing with it for thousands of years.
We'll share some intelligence. We'll share some business knowledge. We'll share some technical knowhow, etc. And let's help stabilize the people locally so that we can buy it at least at market value and not with this crisis risk premium.
And we can have a higher confidence that we're going to continue the supplies necessary because the British or French aren't going to go in there or the Americans aren't going to go in there and destabilize that [ __ ] country in five years because some 24 year old who graduated freaking Oxford, you know, first in class, you know, with first uh now at MI6 decided, well, you know what?
I want to bring down Gambia this week.
Okay. So then how what are Trump and Z going to work out that's going to accelerate >> that? I don't know.
>> I've been out. Well, it'll be business relationship. Most likely what it'll be and there's some some indications of this. It will be base energy input stability in both uh delivery and pricing. And already they've articulated oil and LNG, right? Because China needs, that's one thing that they're the poorest on is um is base energy. Now, they're fairly good at at coal and their coal plants. People keep talking about how dirty their coal plants are, etc. They were, but they've been getting cleaner and cleaner and cleaner. Um give me one second. Down underneath the Chinese civilizational peoples, they're animist people. They have very deep connection to the land and and the waterways and all of that.
Right now, we've gone through a heavy industrialization period and all that kind of [ __ ] And we got to they're coming out of it, right? So give me a second. So what what we would do with the Chinese is too we do intel sharing to help them with their you know the operators bad actors inside. How would we do that? Well that would be descent and treasury sharing you know banking information and transaction information that relates to bad actors in China and they're getting self-enriched etc. The other piece is we would help them stabilize which is why we went after Iran and Venezuela because those are the two choke points and two you know uh energy produ or providers that was in unstable and really actually people say the Chinese were paying lower price for that. was no they weren't they were paying above market price because there was a risk premium added on right so what we do is we come in and say okay China we can ensure you market pricing for n for your base energy inputs and we can assure you the safety and security of continued flow >> right >> now you can go ahead and project out 5 years 10 years 15 20 years and you can actually have the confidence that what you're building out the transition of your economic base you know industrial base etc. is something that's worth you can go ahead and invest in that you're going to be okay otherwise it's too much uncertainty and when what does that do the uncertainty at the top about planning and projections over 20 30 year cycles which is what you know industrial cycles are right the big ones that's plant you know big plant and equipment property and lifespans and etc power plants all of that you know most of that's 20 50 60 year life cycles in order to plan for that you have to have stability stability uh in the inputs and if you have stability in the inputs assured over that period of time costing cost increases risk premiums threats all of that you can do better long-term planning and if you can do long better long-term planning you're cal calmer more mellow and your people thrive >> because now you can shift energy and focus from this outward constant conflict and uncertainty and you can shift to the domestic scene and look at actual grievances that really do need to be addressed. You just didn't have the energy and time to deal with it.
>> Yep. And then at a at a ground level, people can plan and project themselves and build businesses and get on with their lives because they don't have to worry about stability.
>> Correct. And that the overall risk and uncertainty premiums that's added to everything are also lifted off the common people because ultimately that's who pays that premium.
>> Yeah. And so now costs come down and more importantly it's not it's cost come down but what the rate of the increase of the cost is what's really important.
So the rate of the increase instead of you know some kind of a you know high lift it starts to drop down and you have a more reasonable increase you know a two and a half or whatever percent per year kind of increase that's more bearable over time rather than this up and down you know one year it's 8% one year it's 3% one year it's 12% you know what I mean?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Now, all of this Trump, one of the things I heard today is that um China's agreed to reduce its dependency on Iranian oil.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh all of this, all these these agreements, these minations between Trump and between the US and China is going to make the US the UK and Europe even more desperate.
>> It will for Yes. No. Absolutely. The case and which is what's what's necessary. We have to bankrupt the British.
And in order for us, and that's the Anglosphere outside the United States, we need to bankrupt the Anglosphere because that's the only way to break this hidden control of Brussels and Rome.
Right? And what will happen is Iran is by this open uh contractual uh commitment to reduce dependent China's dependence on Iranians oil. It will force the Iranians to honestly come to the negotiating table and the two requirements that will be put on the table for any kind of you know secession of actual hostilities will be you know this fullcourt press kind of hostilities will be that the Iranians break free of the you know British control British and French control and two that they do intelligence information sharing on the, you know, the British money laundering, British and French moneyaundering systems.
>> Okay?
>> And on the other side, we will allow some of the people that have been enriched in that to can keep their wealth and and keep their money, but you're out of the game. And if they ever try to get back in the game, they'll be impoverished and killed, right?
Complete. I'm completely surprised by this whole conversation. Wasn't what I was expecting you in where you took me in terms of the the Berling game relationship with China and then what you've said about China and stuff. So, really really appreciate it. Thank you so much.
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