In biblical interpretation, the Greek word 'oiden' (know) in Mark 13:32 carries declarative meaning (the ability to declare or announce) rather than cognitive meaning (actual knowledge). The speaker argues that since no one can declare the hour of the Son of Man's return—not even angels or the Son himself—this demonstrates that the verse is about declarative knowledge, not cognitive knowledge. This interpretation is supported by the context of the parable of the master leaving on a journey, where the servants do not know when the master will return, emphasizing that the timing is unknown and cannot be declared.
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Godlogic vs Hashim || Debate || Speakers Corner : 31.05.26 || #christianmuslimdebateAdded:
I've been dealing with this and AS AN EXAMPLE FOR THE AUDIENCE CAN YOU NOT CUT ME OFF?
FOR THE AUDIENCE YEAH, BUT THERE'S NO CLARITY RIGHT NOW.
>> [laughter] >> CAN YOU SIT AND LISTEN?
OKAY, SO WHEN ADAM when Adam KNEW HIS WIFE AND SHE BORE him a son, what does that mean? What is your answer?
That was THAT'S NOT MY QUESTION. WHAT DOES IT mean then when it says Adam knew his wife and she bore him a son?
>> It means he knew her.
>> He already knew her. So what does it mean?
>> And he knew her and he's giving the good news OF A SON.
>> OKAY, LOOK.
>> [laughter] >> OKAY. OKAY.
LET ME LET ME HELP HE'S NOT TELLING ANYBODY. LOOK, the narrative says this. This is how it goes.
Genesis chapter 4 verse 1 it says Adam knew his wife and she bore him a son.
Contextually what does the word know there mean?
No, they already said that.
Okay, HERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
WELL, YEAH. YEAH, the Holy Spirit's teaching you RIGHT NOW. SO HERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
HERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
SO HERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
I didn't hear him.
Here's another example. Abra It says Abraham knew his wife Sarah and she bore him Isaac. What does that mean when it says knew his wife?
>> OH, YOU MEAN IN THAT SENSE THAT THEY HAD SEXUAL RELATIONS?
>> AH, you got it. So, sexual relations.
>> SO, WAIT. HOW DOES IT CONNECT WITH THAT >> I'LL TELL YOU HOW. WHY DIDN'T IT say Adam had sex with his wife?
>> Cuz that's a polite way to say it.
>> No. It's It's It's not >> [laughter] >> Brother, it's not It's not impolite Where do you get that it's not polite to say sex?
>> No, no. Not the term sex. When you're talking about Adam and his wife, okay, God chose these words as respect to them.
>> Where Where Where do you get that from?
>> It's obvious. Listen.
>> Where do you get that from?
>> When you When you have a wife, all right? Are you going to declare to everyone THAT I HAD SEX and we had a baby?
>> No.
>> IS THAT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DECLARE >> This is A NARRATIVE, BRO.
>> ANSWER THE QUESTION.
>> YEAH, YOU TELL YOUR FRIENDS THAT YOU HAD >> YOU LISTEN. WHEN WHEN GOD HAS A SON WITH MISS LOGIC, YOU'RE GOING TO DECLARE TO THE WORLD I HAD [clears throat] SEX WITH MY WIFE >> THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT ANALOGOUS.
IT'S NOT ANALOGOUS.
THAT'S NOT ANALOGOUS.
When you're giving a history >> So, that's what you're >> When you're giving a historical narrative, do you see My point is when you see how the word know is used biblically, how it can be used in different contexts to mean different things, and it doesn't have to translate to sexual intercourse. Your argument is is that it doesn't say declare in Mark 13. Why am I saying declare then? It doesn't say declare, it doesn't say tell, it says know. My point is is that the meaning of know in the verse carries the meaning of declarative.
>> doesn't.
>> It doesn't have to say declare.
>> CAN I TELL YOU WHY IT DOESN'T? BECAUSE IF IF THAT WAS THE CASE, SO YOU'RE YOU'RE SAYING it has got nothing to do with the knowledge of the hour.
>> Not cognitive.
>> But what kind of knowledge of the hour we >> Declarative.
I keep telling YOU THIS.
>> IT APPLIES DECLARATIVE TO EVERYONE IN THAT VERSE.
>> YES.
>> OKAY. SO, IN TERMS OF DECLARATIVE, LET'S SAY THEY ALL [laughter] are going to declare OR THEY CANNOT DECLARE.
SO, JESUS CANNOT DECLARE. Men cannot declare.
Angels cannot >> Nobody's going to declare.
>> Very good. So, WE GOT WE GOT ONE PART OF IT OUT OF THE WAY BECAUSE EVERY TRANSLATION of Mark 13:32 it doesn't use the term declare.
>> And neither does in Genesis 4:1.
>> I'm still speaking. I'll let you speak.
Neither does it use SEXUAL INTERCOURSE IN GENESIS 4:1. SHOW ME THE SAME COURTESY. If you want ME TO BE QUIET, YOU BE QUIET, SURE. OKAY. SO, NOW NOW, ONE one more thing.
IS IT ONLY ABOUT DECLARATIVE OR IT IS ALSO ABOUT KNOWLEDGE?
>> OKAY, SO I'M GOING to finish this I'm going to answer you in full answer you in full, okay? Okay. So, answer you straight away.
>> [laughter] >> Now, let's go to the knowledge part.
>> Okay. So, all right. So, this is declarative knowledge, okay? Number one.
Number two, when you say every translation this is what I'm trying to get you to understand. [laughter] When you say every translation says no, I agree with you. It's not about how the Greek word is translated. It is it's about what it means.
>> One of the meanings is no.
>> No, let me help you. Again, when it when it says no the trans you're right. Like actually information. The point is is that it also means to declare. So, my point is listen. Just like I SAID TO YOU NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. COME ON.
NO, LISTEN. YOU YOU SAID let me talk.
And now you're saying no, no, no, no.
You said let you talk. And you're not letting me talk.
You said LET YOU TALK.
YOU SAID LET YOU TALK.
AND I LET YOU TALK.
OKAY. SO, NOW YOU'RE GOING BACK ON THAT.
I ALREADY DID THAT.
STOP INTERRUPTING.
STOP INTERRUPTING. ALL RIGHT, SO I'M GOING TO JUST TALK OVER you then. IS THAT OKAY?
SO, ACCORDING TO THIS HASHIM ACCORDING TO YOU according to you your argument your argument is there has to say the word declare in order for it to mean that.
But you just acknowledge that the word no can be used for sexual intercourse even though it doesn't translate sexual intercourse. But you understand that's what it means. So, this is a bad argument.
>> Okay.
We have already dealt with the declarative part.
>> All right, SO YOU AGREE.
>> NO. DO YOU ALSO AGREE THAT THE TERM OIDEN MEANS KNOWLEDGE?
>> SURE, it can.
>> OKAY. SO, NOW WE HAVE DONE WITH THE DECLARATIVE PART. Let's deal with the knowledge part.
No, NO, WE HAVEN'T. DOES MAN KNOW THE LAST HOUR?
>> NO.
>> OKAY.
>> [laughter] >> Do the angels know the last hour?
>> No.
>> Does the son know the last hour?
>> Yes.
>> It doesn't say that.
>> Yes, it does. He knows Yes, he knows all things.
HE KNOWS ALL THINGS.
>> NOBODY KNOWS THE HOUR. NOT THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN, not the son.
>> THIS IS TALKING ABOUT DECLARATIVE. STOP SHOUTING.
>> I KNOW YOU'RE GETTING TRIGGERED.
>> THIS IS TALKING ABOUT DECLARATIVE.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?
IT'S IT'S MY HEAD. RIGHT OVER YOUR HEAD.
ONE EAR AFTER THE OTHER.
ARE YOU OKAY?
>> [laughter] >> ARE YOU OKAY?
>> ARE YOU OKAY?
>> YOU'RE LIKE IT'S NOT IT'S NOT REGISTERING.
LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG. THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG.
THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG.
YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE GASLIGHTING. YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE GASLIGHTING.
>> SO, WHEN HE SAYS NOT THE ANGELS, >> You got to listen.
>> IT'S ABOUT KNOWLEDGE. THE ANGELS don't have the knowledge of the hour.
But the SAME THE SAME >> [laughter] >> THE SAME WORDING, NOT THE SON, YOU USE A DIFFERENT MEANING. BUT THAT >> I DIDN'T CHANGE THE MEANING.
>> You know, you did.
>> The meaning Oh, let me say it one last time for you. The meaning in chapter about cognitive knowledge. It is about declarative knowledge. Now, if you ask me, does the son know the hour, the answer is yes. Your question SHOULD BE HOW DO I KNOW? BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS that Jesus knows all things. So, hold on. So, I used the Bible to interpret the Bible.
>> You have NOT USED THE BIBLE IN MARK 13:32. You used two different You used two different meanings for two different sentences, which have the same wording.
When he talks about cognitive KNOWLEDGE FOR THE ANGELS, YOU SAID they don't know, right? That's what he said.
>> I didn't say that when it comes to that verse. I'm saying it in that verse. SO, LOOK.
>> SO, NOW answer the >> Let let make [laughter] Let me make it CLEAR TO YOU.
HOW MANY TIMES I GOT TO SAY THIS?
LET ME SAY IT CLEARLY AGAIN.
I'LL SAY IT ONE LAST TIME. IF YOU ASK me again This [laughter] is IT'S OVER.
OKAY? I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO SAY IT ONE LAST TIME.
I'M GOING TO SAY IT ONE LAST TIME.
ACCORDING TO THE VERSE, IT has nothing to do with cognitive knowledge. The verse IS TALKING ABOUT DECLARATIVE KNOWLEDGE OF THE SUN CUZ YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. OF THE SUN OF THE SUN OF THE ANGELS AND THE HUMANS. OKAY? It's declarative knowledge. Now, wait. Hold on a second.
When you ask me, "Okay, so does man know the hour?" The answer is no. How do you know, Avery? Because man's knowledge is limited. And elsewhere Jesus says they don't know WITH COGNITIVE KNOWLEDGE.
HOLD ON.
HOLD ON. HOLD ON.
WHEN YOU ASK ME, "DO THE ANGELS know the hour?" My answer would be no because THE ANGELS ARE NOT ALL-KNOWING. WHEN YOU ASK ME, "Does Jesus know the hour?" My answer is yes because Jesus is all-knowing.
JOHN CHAPTER 16 HEY, [laughter] CAN I CAN I ASK THE ENGLISH QUESTION NOW?
THIS IS ABOUT TO BE BAD This is about TO BE BAD.
THIS IS ABOUT TO BE BAD FOR YOU.
>> READING THE BIBLE SO THE CHRISTIANS AT LEAST respect your Bible.
All right. SO IT SAYS HERE, "BUT OF THAT DAY AND THE HOUR knoweth no man.
No, not the angels which are in heaven. NEITHER THE SON BUT the father.
Mark 13:32. What does the next verse say?
It says here TAKE YOU HEED, WATCH AND PRAY for you know when the time is for the son of man is as a man >> [clears throat] >> taking far journey who left his house and gave authority to his servants and to every man his work and commanded the porter to watch. This is the key words, the next one.
WATCH YOU THEREFORE FOR YOU KNOW NOT WHEN THE MASTER of the house come at at even or at at sorry, what did you say?
I think this is old English at even maybe evening. At even or at midnight OR AT THE COCK crowing or in the morning. SO THIS IS COGNITIVE KNOWLEDGE.
THE VERY NEXT VERSE TALKS ABOUT NOT DECLARATION BUT ABOUT COGNITIVE KNOWLEDGE. THE KNOWLEDGE WHEN THE MASTER WILL COME, NOBODY KNOWS. He can come in the EVENING OR HE CAN COME IN THE IN THE NIGHT.
>> Does the master know?
>> WHEN THE COCK CROWS, THE master is the father.
>> Does the master know in 32?
>> The master is the father.
>> Does he know?
>> The master is the father.
>> Okay. Does the master know?
>> Not the son but only the father knows.
>> I got you. Does the master know?
>> The answer is already there in the next verse. I WANT TO finish reading.
>> Oh, you haven't finished?
>> Last one it says lest coming suddenly to find you sleeping. That means he'll come suddenly. YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN HE'S GOING TO COME. NOW YOU SEE HOW THEY TRY TO TWIST LIKE THE PHARISEES THE MEANING OF THE passages even when he says only the father knows. It doesn't mean HE ALREADY SAID THE ANGELS cannot declare because they DON'T KNOW THE HOUR. SO IT CANNOT be declared IN THAT. THE THE MAN DOESN'T KNOW THE HOUR. SO THE MAN CANNOT DECLARE BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW THE HOUR. AND THEN HE SAYS NEITHER THE SON.
THAT MEANS THE SON ALSO DOESN'T KNOW THE HOUR. THAT'S WHY it says only the father knows who is the master like in the next passage. Go on.
>> Okay. So, does the master know?
>> Master, the father in the context.
>> So, the master knows? Okay. So, it says that the master that this this Jesus leaving, right, that the hour is like a master who's leaving on a long journey, right? Well, I I got you. So, he says it's like But I let you talk, right? All right.
So, it says that this is just like a master who's leaving his house and going on a journey and leaving his stewards in charge, right? So, is the father leaving? The father left?
>> In the In the context?
>> Yes.
>> No, the father is there.
>> So, who's the one leaving?
>> The master. It's a parable.
>> All right. IN THE YEAH, IT'S IN THE SO, watch this. Watch this. THIS WATCH WATCH HOW BAD this is. Guys, I WANT YOU GUYS TO SEE HOW BAD THIS IS.
HE SAYS HE SAYS the master knows. He said the master knows.
RIGHT? BUT HE'S SAYING the master But he's saying the master IS THE FATHER.
OKAY. HASHIM.
>> YEAH, go on.
>> And he's When he says this This is a parable, what is he saying this parable is compared to?
>> Compared to the the day of judgment.
>> What Compared to what exactly?
>> IS ABOUT THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.
>> WHAT What about the day of judgment?
>> anytime.
>> No, it's not about the day of judgment.
Okay, we'll do this again.
>> OH, YOU'RE DOING WITH THE SECOND COMING?
WHAT IS IT? WHAT ARE YOU WHAT ARE you doing?
>> bro, this is This is what This is why When you said I never read the verse, you just read it and you didn't understand it.
>> IT. THIS IS TOUGH.
>> SO, WHAT DID JESUS JUST TALK ABOUT? WHAT DID HE just talk about?
What did he just talk about?
No, no. What did he talk about before that, bro?
>> I'm telling you what he's talking about, okay?
The In regards to the parable, let me explain that first.
>> No, no, no.
When he says this is like What is it like?
>> WHAT IS LIKE?
>> THE PARABLE.
>> I'M TELLING YOU, the parable explains TO YOU ABOUT THE HOUR.
>> GOOD. GOOD. GOOD. GOOD. THANK YOU. WE GOT IT. SO, THE HOUR SO, THE HOUR is the son's son of man's coming, correct?
>> Right.
>> Is what?
>> IS THE SON.
>> IS THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT.
>> AND [laughter] IS THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT JESUS COMING BACK?
>> NO.
>> WOW.
>> [screaming] >> NO.
>> WOW.
WOW.
WOW.
>> THIS IS CRAZY.
THIS IS CRAZY.
>> HOW HOW CAN >> OKAY.
>> [clears throat] >> THE MASTER KNOWS.
>> THE MASTER'S COMING, RIGHT?
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> HERE IT IS. YOU READY?
SO WATCH THIS, GUYS. WATCH THIS.
>> HASHEM SAID >> GUYS EVERYBODY CHILL.
MIKE IS CATCHING UP.
YES. SO SO ALL RIGHT, GUYS, watch this.
THANK YOU. [laughter] SO HASHEM HASHEM, HOLD ON 1 SECOND. SO GUYS, he said THAT THE HOUR IS NOT ABOUT JESUS' LAST COMING or second coming.
My goodness.
But in those days after the tribulation, the sun will be darkened, the moon will not give its light, and the stars will be falling from heaven, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. And then they will see THE SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS WITH GREAT POWER AND GLORY.
Watch out.
1 SECOND.
WATCH THIS. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW. NOW WATCH THIS.
PLEASE, PLEASE. IT GETS BETTER. IT GETS BETTER. HE THEN GOES on to say, "And then he, the son of man, WILL SEND OUT HIS ANGELS."
DO DO prophets have angels?
>> It depends.
>> [laughter] >> IT DEPENDS.
IT DEPENDS. [screaming] It depends.
IT DEPENDS.
WOW.
SURE.
SURE. SURE.
SURE. [screaming] SURE. SURE.
SHIRT. OKAY, LET ME READ THIS. IS THIS HOW YOU WANT [laughter] TO PLAY?
>> SORRY, LET ME SEE.
>> WAIT A MINUTE. Did I Did I say shirt?
>> That's right.
>> DID I SAY DID I SAY SHIRT?
>> HUH?
>> DID I SAY SHIRT?
>> YOU SAID SHIRT.
>> SHIRT.
>> SHIRT.
>> YEAH, you said it first.
>> OH, YOU GUYS CAN'T EVEN PRONOUNCE IT.
IT'S NOT SHIRT.
>> STOP. SHIRT.
>> I THOUGHT YOU SAID SHOES.
>> [laughter] >> GUYS, IT IS SHIRT.
>> NOT SHOES.
>> SHIRT.
>> SHIRT.
>> ALL RIGHT, LOOK. SO, WATCH WHAT HAPPENS NOW. SO, HE SAYS, "THE SON of Man is coming, RIGHT?" THEN HE GOES on to say he's going to send his angels and gather his elect from the four winds from the ends of the earth to the ends of the heavens, right? Then he goes on to say, "From the fig tree learn this lesson. As soon as its branches become tender and puts out leaves, you know summer is coming. So, truly I say to you Hold on.
Truly I say to you, "This generation will not pass away until these things take place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away."
Now, watch what he says.
Hold on. "But concerning Hold on. Let me finish.
LET ME FINISH.
"BUT CONCERNING THAT DAY WHAT DAY?
THE SON OF MAN IS COMING, RIGHT?
"But concerning THAT DAY IT SAYS, "BUT I'LL TELL YOU."
WATCH THIS. WATCH THIS.
WATCH THIS.
"BUT CONCERNING THAT DAY READ READ THAT NEXT PART.
NO, I WANT YOU TO READ IT. NO, [laughter] PLEASE. I WANT YOU TO READ IT. NO, CUZ YOU WON'T YOU WON'T UNDERSTAND ME.
Can you please? Cuz I need I need you I need you to READ THIS PART.
READ IT, AICLA.
AICLA, I NEED you to read it first.
IT SAYS, "BUT OF THAT DAY OR THAT [screaming] HOUR NOT THE LAST HOUR.
OH, REALLY? SO, ALL RIGHT. SO, WHERE DOES IT MENTION LAST HOUR THEN?
Where does it mention last hour?
In Mark In Mark 13:32.
>> In Mark 13:32?
>> Yeah, where does it mention LAST HOUR?
>> IT TALKS ABOUT the hour. Okay, let's read >> Oh, where does it say last hour?
>> NO, [laughter] BECAUSE THE THE COMMENTARIES, THEY SAY IT.
>> NO, OH, THE COMMENTARIES SAY IT.
>> YES.
>> OKAY.
>> ABOUT THAT DAY >> OKAY.
>> ACTUALLY, NO, SOME VERSES ACTUALLY DO SAY LAST DAY.
>> OKAY, so so according So according to this, this is talking about the last hour. Can we agree?
>> No.
>> You just said it is.
>> I didn't SAY IT.
>> YOU JUST SAID IT. BRO, >> [laughter] >> the religion of yes, no, yes, no, no, yes, yes, no. My God.
>> Listen, listen, listen to me.
SHALL WE SEE WHERE IT SAYS LAST HOUR LAST DAY?
>> HUH?
>> IN ANOTHER PASSAGE [laughter] OF THE BIBLE in this passage OF THE BIBLE >> NO PROBLEM with another translation SAYING THAT.
>> BUT IF IT IS a last day and last hour, which is what you're asking me.
>> That's what he's talking about.
>> So when he says, no, the one you read didn't say last day last hour.
>> It said that day that hour.
>> But not last day last hour.
>> It doesn't have to if THAT'S WHAT IT'S TALKING ABOUT.
>> THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE IMPLYING.
>> IS IT IS IT >> BY THE WAY, JESUS IN THAT SAME PASSAGE, WHEN JESUS SAID THIS GENERATION WILL NOT PASS >> NO, NO, STOP SWITCHING THE CONVERSATION.
[laughter] STOP TRYING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT. STOP TRYING TO DO the Muslim shuffle. Don't do that.
>> No, no, you did the Christian shuffle.
When you said the ANGELS DON'T KNOW, BUT THE SON KNOWS. WHEN THE LANGUAGE OF THE >> YOU ON THAT. I ANSWERED YOU ON THAT.
SO DO YOU AGREE Do you agree that the last hour is about the son of man's coming?
>> No, I don't agree.
>> So then Oh my YOU KNOW >> BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT THE LAST HOUR IS TALKING ABOUT.
LAST HOUR ON EARTH.
>> Where does it say that?
>> I'LL GIVE YOU THE PASSAGE.
>> OKAY, IS IT LET ME see the Let me see it again. He said the last HOUR ON EARTH.
>> WHERE ELSE CAN IT BE LAST HOUR?
>> OKAY, WHEN IT says when you're talking about last hour on Earth My goodness, this is bad, dude.
>> It's bad, yeah.
This generation will not pass a false prophet.
>> LOOK WHAT IT SAYS.
>> THAT GENERATION PASSED >> IT SAYS >> AND THE LAST hour >> It says the son of man's coming in the clouds with great power. He will go He will send his angels to gather his elect. Who is that?
>> What's that?
>> That the son of man's going to send his angels to gather the believers. WHEN DOES THIS HAPPEN?
>> [laughter] >> IN THE >> SECOND BUT WHEN?
I TOLD YOU ALREADY.
>> WHEN?
>> WHEN THE SECOND COMING HAPPENS.
>> YEAH, but when is that?
>> WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THAT.
HOW WOULD WE KNOW? EVEN YOU >> IS THIS JUDGEMENT DAY?
IS THIS JUDGEMENT DAY?
IS THIS JUDGEMENT DAY?
IS THIS JUDGEMENT DAY?
>> NO, JUDGEMENT DAY FOR ME is the last [laughter] day on earth.
>> I don't care what you do.
Let me show YOU THIS NOW.
BRO.
BRO, this is this is bad. NOW WATCH THIS.
WATCH THIS. Watch this, guys. This This is MATTHEW 25. WATCH WHAT IT SAYS.
When the son of man comes in his glory and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne.
Before him WILL BE GATHERED ALL THE nations and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
AND HE WILL PLACE the sheep on his right, the goats on his left.
Then he Then the king The king of the day of [laughter] judgement will say TO THOSE ON HIS RIGHT, "COME, you who ARE BLESSED BY MY FATHER, enter the kingdom of heaven."
Is this the last day?
I'm done.
I'm done.
I'm done.
I'm done.
I'm done. [laughter] I'm done.
I'M DONE.
LET'S WALK THIS.
YEAH, OVER BE THIS WAY, THOUGH.
NO, OVER THIS WAY.
WHAT AN IDIOT.
>> [cough and clears throat] [laughter] >> I'M SORRY, GUYS.
I'M SORRY, GUYS. I'M SORRY.
>> [laughter] >> I'M SORRY, GUYS. SORRY I PUT Y'ALL THROUGH THAT.
>> [laughter] >> I'M SORRY. I'M I MADE Y'ALL LISTEN TO THAT for that long. I'M SORRY.
I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW WHY I HEARD HIM OUT.
I GET IT FROM THE WORD AND I.
SHOUT OUT TO THE WORD AND I.
MY GUYS, THAT WAS ONE OF THE most brain dead conversations I have ever had with a dollar guy. I mean the absolute yes no yes no I'm sorry.
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