Foolio's Cousin Who Witnessed Him Get Killed Decided To Not Help Convict Alledged Murderers

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[00:00:00]All right, we back. With another part that I feel like was very important when it comes to day two [music] and Yungeen Ace Julios murder trial. This right here is one of the witnesses being cross-examined by Rashad Murphy's lawyer. Now, to make it clear which witness this is, this is actually one of Julio's partners who was in the driver backseat when Julio got shot. So, when Julio tried to jump to the backseat, he was the only one in the backseat, the left driver backseat. So, y'all got to remember that, right? Y'all got to remember that and y'all got to remember he was actually there when the shooting happened. So, I guess they're going to try to cross-examine him to try to make it seem like y'all ain't see nothing.

[00:00:41]Y'all don't know who did this and on top of that, Julio had lots of beef out here in these streets. So, y'all wouldn't know who did it. Mr. Norris, I I think you told us that you knew Charles Jones, Yungeen Ace Julio, since um for about 10 years, correct?

[00:00:57]>> Yes. And you knew him very well? Yes.

[00:01:00]You saw him all the time. You spoke to him pretty much daily, correct? Yes.

[00:01:06]And you also know TaTa because he's your cousin, correct?

[00:01:14]>> Yes. All right. That'd be TaTa McRae.

[00:01:16]Yes. And you know Kenny Kaps as well, correct? Yes.

[00:01:21]And you know Your Honor, I just asked if counsel can identify who that is he's speaking of.

[00:01:26]Yeah, is Kenny Kaps a nickname or is that the full name or No, Judge, that would be That's right. Robert Mr. I'm sorry. Robert. Robert Howard, correct?

[00:01:34]He knows him as Kenny Kaps. Yes, Judge.

[00:01:36]Okay. Thank you for clarifying that.

[00:01:40]And what about Xavier Edwards, 55? Do you know 55? Yes.

[00:01:49]Do you also know him in other circles as Omerta?

[00:01:54]Uh yes, that's right name. Yes. Okay.

[00:02:01]You're aware that Mr. Jones and the other gentleman that I named, they are part of Sex Money Murder, correct?

[00:02:12]Yes, they're part of Sex Money Murder.

[00:02:16]Sex Sex Money Murder.

[00:02:20]Are you aware of that? No, not of the gang. No. Okay, so you're not aware of Sex Money Murder.

[00:02:26]I don't think it's songs and that, but I don't know if it's a gang.

[00:02:30]And I'm sorry, sir. I didn't understand your question if you don't mind. I said I heard it in songs, but I don't know if it's like a gang. You know, I don't know if it's a gang. So, you're you're telling me you only heard it in a song.

[00:02:40]I'm saying I heard it in songs, but I'm saying I don't know if it's a gang.

[00:02:42]That's what I'm saying. Okay. What what what is it you know it as?

[00:02:46]I'm saying that's what they were saying in the songs and stuff.

[00:02:49]Okay, now I'm I'm sorry. I'm just a little confused. You you knew it because you heard it in songs, but you didn't know it as a gang. Yes. Is that I don't want to put words in your mouth. Is that what you're trying to tell me? Yes.

[00:02:58]Okay. I'd be finding it stupid, fam.

[00:03:00]Like, you know, to bring witnesses up there on the stand who you damn there want to stick to the street code instead of solving the murder of their partner.

[00:03:09]Like, I know these boys are sad that they lost their partner, but I don't think that they want to help the state, you know, solve the case, right? Cuz now you got the defense attorney using what he know he could use against street dudes. Now, I'm talking about you could really make them like unvalid. Like, everything you say is not valid no more because you already lied. You can't even admit that Sex Money Murder is a gang.

[00:03:35]You're already lying. So, now obviously everybody's going to take everything he says from then moving forward as a lie.

[00:03:43]>> Did you listen to Charles Jones, Yungeen Ace Julio's music?

[00:03:47]Yes. Okay. Did you listen to other drill rappers' music?

[00:03:52]Yes.

[00:03:53]There are lots of drill rappers.

[00:03:56]Objection, outside the scope.

[00:03:58]Um I'll overrule both at this point, but go ahead.

[00:04:02]There are a number of different drill rappers, correct? Yes. And they all pretty much sing about the same thing, correct?

[00:04:07]Yes.

[00:04:13]When you came to Tampa Mr. Norris, did you expect that there was going to be some kind of trouble?

[00:04:25]No, we came here for celebrating birthday.

[00:04:29]How about Mr. Jones, Yungeen Ace Julio, or Mr. Howard Mr. McCrae Mr. Edwards Strike that. Strike him.

[00:04:51]Were you aware before you went to Tampa that there was going to be trouble?

[00:04:56]No.

[00:04:58]You brought your gun with you, did you not?

[00:05:02]Yes.

[00:05:03]And you had it in the car, correct?

[00:05:08]Uh it was in my cousin's car.

[00:05:10]Your cousin cousin meaning TaTa, Mr. McCrae. Yes.

[00:05:13]And were times when you were in Tampa that you were in that car at certain times, correct?

[00:05:23]No, I I don't I didn't ride with him.

[00:05:26]I don't have anything further. Thank you, sir.

[00:05:28]Okay. Uh any questions, Mr. Smurda?

[00:05:31]Yes. Let me see if he has some questions. Okay, Mr. Smurda.

[00:05:36]It's kind of confusing.

[00:05:40]Good afternoon. Good afternoon.

[00:05:42]All right. So, I just have a few questions uh for you.

[00:05:47]Would you agree with me that you don't know or you don't have any idea who was responsible for killing Charles Jones? No, ma'am. I don't I don't know. Okay. And Charles Jones was actually your cousin, correct?

[00:06:01]>> Yes.

[00:06:02]Yes, you were very close with him. Yes, ma'am.

[00:06:06]And you would also agree with me there's there's a lot of different groups and a lot of different people that did not like Charles Jones, your cousin.

[00:06:12]>> Objection, outside the scope, Your Honor. Um overall, he can I'll give you a little bit of latitude on this.

[00:06:18]A little bit.

[00:06:19]>> Correct? Yes, a lot of people didn't like him.

[00:06:22]And the reason why a lot of people didn't like him was because of his music, right?

[00:06:25]>> Objection, speculation.

[00:06:26]>> If he knows if you know the answer, you can answer.

[00:06:30]Uh yes, so.

[00:06:32]And it's not necessarily his music, but it's the the content of his music, right? Objection, speculation. Um answer, Mr. Norris, if you know.

[00:06:42]Uh Uh yes, so.

[00:06:46]You don't know? I don't know.

[00:06:48]I'm sorry, I can't understand you. Can you repeat the question again?

[00:06:51]A lot of people don't like or didn't like your cousin Charles Jones because of his music.

[00:07:01]The content of his music.

[00:07:04]Yeah, you could say that. Correct? Yes, you could say that.

[00:07:08]Because he says a lot of stuff in his music that people don't like, right?

[00:07:14]Okay. Uh listen, I'm not going to have him guess about people. So, he's he's already indicated to you regarding people generally responding to Mr. Jones and his music, but I'm not going to have him keep guessing what That was going to be my last question. Okay. Very good.

[00:07:29]So, am I allowed to Yeah, you can ask it, then we need to move to the next topic.

[00:07:36]And there's a lot of people that didn't like Charles Jones because of the stuff that he would say in his music, right?

[00:07:44]Yes.

[00:07:55]Now, you don't know who Davion Murphy is, do you? No, ma'am.

[00:07:58]And you don't know who Rashad Murphy No, ma'am.

[00:08:02]Thank you, sir.

[00:08:06]Okay. Um does Y Z have any questions?

[00:08:07]Yes, sir.

[00:08:13]Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Mr. Norris, you don't know Charles Jones, do you, correct? No. In fact, before he was arrested in connection with this case, you'd never even heard that name, right?

[00:08:21]No. Thank you, sir.

[00:08:23]Okay. And Mr. Petrides?

[00:08:31]Good afternoon. Good afternoon.

[00:08:34]You did know Isaiah Chance, correct?

[00:08:36]Yeah, I thought I knew him on social media.

[00:08:39]I didn't know. Did you ever see him You did see him at the club though, correct? Yes, yes, at the club for Is that at Club Elevation?

[00:08:47]Yes.

[00:08:48]Where did you see him out in the parking lot? Yeah, when we leaving the club.

[00:08:51]Were a lot of people out in the parking lot at that time? Yes.

[00:08:54]Yes. Yeah, okay. Is that a common practice in Jacksonville?

[00:08:57]Yes. Okay.

[00:08:59]Um Did you know someone nicknamed Nizzle, possibly Shequays Taylor? Yes. Was he with you in Tampa during this incident?

[00:09:08]Yes. Was he in the clubs with you all in Tampa? Yes.

[00:09:13]Do you Are you aware of um Isaiah Chance's music? Is that something you listen to?

[00:09:17]No. Were you aware of it?

[00:09:20]I don't know. So, I popped up on my timeline before, but I don't really listen to it.

[00:09:23]I said I saw it pop up on my timeline before, but I never really listened to it.

[00:09:27]Okay.

[00:09:28]And the Home2 Suites Hotel that was not a pre-planned destination that night, correct?

[00:09:35]That was a last-minute decision, correct? Oh, yeah.

[00:09:38]Yeah, no time to find it. We were at the uh What is it? Players Club.

[00:09:42]So, you didn't start looking for that hotel until you were at the Players Club. Yes.

[00:09:46]And you didn't see anything before or after the shooting of anybody else, correct?

[00:09:52]Say it again? You didn't see anyone suspicious before or after the shooting.

[00:09:54]No, no, sir.

[00:09:56]That's all I have. Thank you, sir. Mr. Norris, one follow-up question. Yes.

[00:10:00]Yes.

[00:10:04]Mr. Norris, you don't know Rashad Murphy, do you? No. Thank you.

[00:10:08]Okay, be right.

[00:10:11]Mr. Norris, you've known Charles Jones, you said, since you were 14. Yeah, about 14 years. So, you were asked if you were his cousin. Are you his blood cousin, or is that just something you all refer to each other as his cousins?

[00:10:22]Yeah, first cousin. We'll have first cousin.

[00:10:25]You're first cousin?

[00:10:27]We refer to each other as cousins. You refer to each other as cousins. Okay.

[00:10:33]Let me ask you about the the handgun.

[00:10:34]Was it a handgun, a pistol, that you brought with you?

[00:10:38]Yeah.

[00:10:39]Here to Tampa when you all came down?

[00:10:41]Yeah.

[00:10:42]Um first of all, do you legally possess that, legally own it? Yes.

[00:10:46]And um did your cousin, Tayfir, did he bring that down, or did you bring it down?

[00:10:54]It was in I think it was in his car. It was in his car, right?

[00:10:57]>> Yes. All right. So, this isn't a gun that you were carrying on your person in any of these clubs or anything like that. No. Okay.

[00:11:06]All right. What we did witness right there is street politics, like first hand, because I'm pretty sure bro knew, you know, the Murphy brothers more than he admitted he knew them. But then again, he said he don't because of course he don't want to be labeled as a snitch. And if they're going to solve the crime, y'all got to solve the crime by y'all self. And y'all got to make it happen because that's y'all job. He did what he could and admitted to what he felt like he had no choice but to admit to. But one thing he ain't got to admit to is knowing these people. So, I feel like that's them now win for the defense when it comes to him.