Daniels provides a clinical masterclass in linguistic forensics, proving that the structure of a lie is often more revealing than the lie itself. By focusing on strategic omissions, he effectively turns the speaker's own words into the ultimate evidence of their deception.
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Yeah, it's been a >> okay >> today. He just he he couldn't be there physically. So, but he is here to talk Jack and Lily today. So, thank you again, Daniel, for being here. How are you doing?
>> I'm not doing too too bad. It's Germaine. Um yeah, I wouldn't normally attend a vigil.
>> And he always makes sure to, you know, call them by name. He needs a connection with people. He needs to be believed.
But like um >> we can dive into a little bit on that. I just think uh I would have to inform major crimes ahead of time so they would have enough security [clears throat] >> to maintain >> uh my safety during that. But >> wow >> yeah it's been a been a long road for one year. what started out as sadness and grief has, you know, basically turned to frustration at this point.
[clears throat] >> Yeah. So, if you don't mind, can we just just, you know, we we we most of us have been here uh following this since day one, but >> Yeah.
>> Can you just kind of can you just kind of just tell us what the last year has been like for you? It's got to be quite the roller coaster. And um once you you know once we get to today for you uh we'll we'll just take it from there. And I've got Melissa >> and mind you uh she Charmaine is the first one that was able to get Daniel.
Okay. when she was with cry and shame.
Sunny tried to reach out to him before uh he ignored her but um she she has a right touch with him but you know on the other hand you know I would like her to ask some very specific questions and analyze or be able to recognize when he's practicing avoidance.
It's not going to happen. And if it happens, he probably will, you know, stop talking to her. But, um, let's see >> the backstage. She's starring your comments, so I'm not going to get to them right away, but I will hit them in a little bit. But tell us about the last year for you, Daniel. What's, you know, it's got to be hard.
>> Yeah, the last year's been fairly difficult. I mean, there's been many downs, but not ups. So, it's been like an elevator, you know, especially for me and mom, right? Because the majority of the attacks online are directed at me and mom.
>> Mhm.
>> Um, you know, due to Malayaia not speaking out.
>> Yeah. I don't really want to call Okay.
There are people who attack. Oh, yeah.
Sure. Sure. There are people who love to attack. There are people who use their online presence to [clears throat] um to bash. Sure.
But that's not what you need to focus on.
You need to focus on the people that ask the right questions and then answer them.
He wants to paint everything with the same brush to make it harder to detect where the important parts are.
Oh, he got a beard now, right? Full beard. All right. Looks different.
>> The vector of attacks have always, you know, been on me or my mother.
>> I don't attack. I don't think I attack Daniel. I think I point out the obvious.
what's obvious to me, let's say it like that.
>> But over the last, I don't know, [snorts] four months has been very difficult, you know, dealing with child protective services and >> the charges as well. I mean, we don't have to dive into much on that >> and I don't think >> Keep diving, dude. especially in the part of the ocean that leads to the international waters.
>> Maybe we should.
But I will say one thing. The alleged victims did not want to press charges against me. It's the crown that's pursuing that.
>> That's what I thought. Yeah, that's exactly what I thought.
And again, uh, what Anita suggested is that when they went through his phone, there could have been, uh, uh, videos that can be interpreted possibly as rape videos. I don't know at this point. So, >> and I'm doing my best to uh to use very mild language here, by the way.
With that out of the way, I mean >> I mean >> it's it's been difficult.
>> I miss listening to him and Janie, >> but I maintain maintain my strength, especially for Lily and Jack, right?
Because >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> They don't have a voice other than me and Belinda.
And you know, when some others do come out and talk and do interviews, it's always the defense of Malaya. never providing updates to the case or providing any clear clarity on you know things going forward and with that I mean you can start with the questions I guess >> okay yeah I mean that's uh >> that's nice of you dude >> that that is really where we're at where you know once you I [clears throat] remember back in December you had I I'd asked do something. I don't even remember what, but then you messaged me just saying, "You know what?
>> My family lawyer has advised me to stop talking online. It's starting to affect my custody um case." And so, you know, I'm not going to be able to make any more comments online. And fair enough.
But since then, we've been just kind of going back over and back through all all the stuff because nobody nobody is talking. And for me, today was uh the the rally today was um like I'm I'm speechless. It pissed me off. It really did because nobody is talking.
And in order to keep Jack and Lily's names out there, we need information and the people who love them and that should be talking >> don't even talk when they're given a clear opportunity to. So, like I said, this is this is huge that you're here today and you're willing to >> talk about Jack and L.
>> And again, this is something I saw a little bit of that. I saw Kent, you know, who likes the spotlight and uh he always, you know, and I I I told myself, I don't want to talk about people anymore, man. It's wearing me down. And I wouldn't if people didn't pay attention to them. I would not talk about them at all.
but can't always seems to have time to leave nasty comments here on my channel.
Okay, they're not visible. I hide them, but I still see them when they come in.
So, you know, they're making it about a vigil. They're making it's like it's like a vigil, right? But first, you need to figure out what happened to Jack and Lily.
I saw Belinda speak for a little bit, but again, you know, she says, "Yeah, we need answers, but then I mean, look, man, what are you spending your time on?" That's my question. I know what you're spending your time on. I've seen what you spend your time on. And 90 plus% in my opinion has nothing to do with Finding Jack and Lily. As a matter of fact, sidetracking. So, uh, I don't know if that's who Charmaine is, uh, referring to. I know that she had a falling out before with Belinda. I don't really care about what the details are there. I mean, I know a little bit about it.
And, uh, you know, then then I take her side fully in what she expressed before.
Um, well, Daniel is doing the same thing, man. He's avoiding also, but again, she has to butter him up because that's the way to his heart.
[snorts] >> In the case of >> Yeah, I'm sorry. I don't want to talk about this anymore, you know, these people. But uh I need people to see things clearly and I believe that if you come to my channel, you have a right to get Mike straight that I tell you what I see and I praise people all the time.
I I over praise people and when they do something that I think is counterproductive, I point it out even when I'm the only one who's doing it >> where it stands now. So I agree with you CPS is one of the untouchable um subjects because >> because >> nobody wants to affect that in any way.
So, I don't want to put you in a position that's going to compromise that for you or for Malia.
>> It's not going to look good for you, Daniel, when the CPS reports come out.
>> And no different than your charges as well. So, but as far as the investigation goes, what is the last you heard? Like I know you more than likely watched Rob McCammon the other day and a lot of people have um mentioned that it might be turning criminal now.
>> But do you have do you have any thoughts on that?
>> That'd be great.
>> Um interview that he did the other day.
>> Interesting.
>> Yeah. I was actually called by investigators yesterday. And when I say investigators, I think everybody now knows who I'm referring to with that. I just openly don't say the names. Um, but yeah, they contacted me yesterday and they asked if I had any concerns about, you know, that that >> don't drink diet coke, man. It's a chemical nightmare >> or press conference and I never had any concerns about it because >> Okay.
What are your thoughts on the criminal investigation?
You bring up concerns.
Interesting.
The first thing that comes to mind is that he needs to be concerned.
It's always important to listen to the exact question and think about how would you answer them if there was nothing that you're hiding.
And the only thing that you want is answers. No matter what the answers are, you would be fearless.
You would want I want you you would be like me. You want to know. It doesn't matter who it is. It doesn't matter what comes out, but it has to come out.
You can ask me the same thing. I wouldn't say I'm concerned because that's the last thing on my mind. there's no concern that I have.
And if he has no idea, if he's not hiding anything, he shouldn't have any concern whatsoever. But he does. He bring he brings it up.
>> You know, they're going to say what they said either way, right? I can't change any of it. I can only have a perspective or subjective way of looking at it.
Uh-huh.
>> But what I took from that is I think they're at a tipping point where >> they fully believe that it is criminal.
>> Mhm.
>> But they're still considering a missing person's case just >> what >> due to the fact that >> what >> it's an ongoing investigation and they don't want to switch it over to criminal because they don't have a solid suspect yet.
>> Oh, there we go. Look, what Jesus said makes absolutely no sense, and you can rewind it. Uh, I'm not going [clears throat] to repeat it. And I I actually like to go through things pretty fast, but please do me a favor. If you're serious about statement analysis, if there's anything that I'm saying that you don't catch completely, listen again, please, and then comment based on what you're hearing >> from what I'm seeing, right? But I don't I don't know, right? I'm very limited on what they can tell me. And and >> what you know he's getting shaky when they say things that don't make any sense. [snorts] There's a reason.
Deception doesn't flow.
>> And you know um what they can show me or display to me.
>> Yeah. So that's just my opinion, right? I don't have any solid or concrete facts.
>> And you know what?
When people I I will talk about this later. When people say it's only an opinion that I'm giving, there can be many different reasons why people say this.
Sometimes it is that they're not telling you the truth and they want to be able to say, "Well, it's just my have a right to my opinion." That's one possibility.
There are more. I'm going to get into them >> that I can, you know, give an introduction to on that.
>> Yeah. And I >> an introduction to on that. Yeah. So, you know, immediately he thinks about uh well, there's no suspect yet. Really?
Really?
What about you don't want people to know who the suspect or suspects could be?
He's talking about a suspect.
I think there are several.
[snorts] [clears throat] And I I know that um I think it was yesterday in an article. Uh we're going to go over it tonight on my live stream tonight, but uh he mentioned they're they they got permission from a judge, which means uh you know they they've got search warrant granted to re review digital evidence. Is that something that you were aware of? And and have they asked you for, you know, have they asked you again for your phone or or anything like that?
Like what what is your take on that statement?
>> My take on that is um they probably that that could be anything, right? Um getting a warrant could be something simple as tracing a phone, right? They need a warrant every time to trace a phone or ping a phone. So they could be doing that >> or you know, stuff with the phones.
>> I don't think he had his phone on him.
He made sure he didn't have his phone on him that Thursday night when I believe he took the ATV and went down went towards the ocean, went to the ocean.
That's also one of the reasons he so many times talked about leaving a his phone behind when it was unnecessary to bring up the phone. There's a reason he keeps bringing up the phone in previous interviews.
maybe to there there may be like some type of spyware or malware that's installed on our phones that could be simply be turned on and off and they may need a warrant to reactivate that to look through the phone because after that sent form is consigned I mean the consent form is signed [gasps] that may give access to your phone at any >> you should study law Daniel because you are now on your way you spent a lot of time you spent a year And I think very intensely you looked into all of the possibilities, all the legal possibilities.
I think this is going to be a long one people.
So I don't know how long this video is going to be, but don't worry. I'm going to get through everything in time >> as long as a warrant is provided.
>> And feel free in comments if you have listened to this interview on uh Jack and Lily gone for one full year. Daniel Martell joins if you listen to this video uh video of Charmaine's um feel free to point out something that you have caught and if you do I will go directly to this timestamp it I I'm not sure on that but when it comes to the phone I ask investigators every time do you guys need me for questioning, "Do you guys want more polygraphs from me? Do you guys want to take my phone again?" And the simple answer I get every time is, "Daniel, that's not necessary and we don't need you."
>> Yeah. I want my layers up that she removed because I believe that she called her mother around 11 p.m.
And uh I believe that Daniel made sure that um the things that could be considered evidence are not on his phone. You see, we need to realize what he feels safe about and why.
He grows on you.
But that doesn't take away from the fact that he stated a sentence about Thursday having no detail.
He didn't say, "I don't have details. I don't want to give you. I cannot give you any details." says he said Thursday has no detail. Don't blame Thursday.
[snorts] So >> that is something that I wanted to ask you to verify for everybody because I've been saying that you did indeed take a second polygraph test. You did not refuse to take a second polygraph test and that polygraph test um you you did pass it. Can you please do do you mind speaking on that a little bit? And also people are saying or thinking that your test was not unlike the one that Haley said she did. She was on the news and explained her polygraph test >> and that absolutely is uh absolutely terrible that they have the same polygraph test. Should have been completely different. I talked about this many times >> and I know that uh yours was different.
So, can you please confirm uh for the people what your polygraph test was and the results of that?
>> Yeah, my one was 100% different. All the questions were different on that. And my questions were more directed towards >> Yes.
>> Did you move the kids off of the property?
>> Uhhuh.
>> Did you lead the kids off of the property? Did you sell the kids?
>> Did you have help moving the kids off of the property?
>> Okay.
>> Those were my questions. Yeah. Better.
>> So, nothing to do with the blanket.
Nothing to do with the blanket.
>> No. Investigators know I have nothing to do with the blanket. The only time I entered Landown Road was that morning and the blanket was found at 3:29 or 3:49 or something of that nature. So, >> so why would it have been there when the school bus went by there [clears throat] at 4 or shortly before 4? See there's also uh when you get statements like that we cannot forget okay we cannot forget when something is said that um you know makes no sense we got to have this mental marker or write it down no matter what it is anything inconsistent anything that makes no sense you see here he will now try to control the flow he'll make He talks, addresses them by their names because he needs to have a friendly conversation [snorts] and he hopes that people forget to ask the right questions. And that's why I'm doing this because I want to make sure that even though I see a lot of people, they're starting to like him now.
You can't forget like him all you want, but don't overlook what's important, please.
>> They know that it couldn't possibly be planted by me. In which it is planted because investigators told me that and I told the public that early on. No one believed me.
>> How about the blanket in the garbage can, Daniel? What about that one? You see, I never said that you planted the blanket that was found on Landstone Road.
But the blanket in the garbage can, that's a whole different story.
>> And look at the stage we are now.
[clears throat] >> Look at the stage we are right now.
Okay.
Oh, I get it. We should all have listened to you and believed you.
Well, this part we believe, but what are you trying to say?
Again, he likes to take these opportunities to [snorts] point out when he was right about something.
And you know he wants to portray himself as somebody who is right generally speaking except there are very very important parts that he was not correct about that he was not truthful with.
It's going to be a long one people.
>> No it's you know it makes your head spin if you're if you're paying attention.
All of this stuff from the beginning makes your head spin. And I know you got and still do get a lot of heat for some of the things that you've said, but again, you're the only one that's been consistently talking and since you took a break all of like six months ago, >> by the way, she doesn't believe in him one bit. [clears throat] And you can also see facial language right here.
Uh when you Let me do this real quick.
I'm not going to get into it too much, but I can, you know, she doesn't believe him.
Well, it's been 6 months since you've stopped regularly appearing um on social media. Um, it has gotten progressively worse and now we're we're right smack dab in the middle of a circus and there's two missing kids. Um, yeah. Did Look, a double blink. Was it a double blink? Look, there's eye movement right here.
It's also a sign of deception, people.
Somebody [snorts] saying something that she doesn't actually believe.
but wants you to believe.
And again, that's how she gets him the talk.
I look at everybody. I look at every it just it's it's not that I'm I'm looking for anything.
It just it points itself out. Let's say it like that.
So if anything, if the case is not coming to a close, at least we can use all of this as a training tool.
Very effective.
Let's go.
Is there anything that stands out to you from the things because I assume that you still follow social media. Has there been anything that stands out to you um with um the like I don't even I don't even really want to bring it up specifically, but there was a new document um made with a new um I guess narrative. Um do you have do you have any thoughts on that? Do you know what I'm talking about when I when I talk about the Larry document? And do you did you have a chance to review it?
Do you have any you know >> No. Do you want to do you want to fill me in on that?
So, this man, Larry Cameron, alleged I I don't even know what he does, but he's a I don't know, some kind of cyber cyber uh whatever he >> By the way, I have paid zero attention to it, but I do appreciate that maybe now, you know, she is talking about it a little bit and I'm going to be able to decide if I should pay attention to it or But I have a feeling that no, I shouldn't.
But let's see.
He created a document not unlike Melissa's where it's got all of I I'm not going to pull it up, but anyways, it's it's more of an AI thing where he uses AI to come up with um >> big mistake.
He even has sections in there of supposedly what the redactions are like I mean it's yes I think >> big mistake >> you cyber >> for >> ignoreics and uh it's a open source >> well again the [clears throat] problem is you know the people that promote it not that somebody's doing it to get attention anybody can do it by the way but that people actually share share it. That's exactly the circus that's being created that's leading away from the narrow path that will lead us to what happened to Jack and Lily um information. So basically anything you can get online which I wonder about.
But anyways, long story short, his summary was basically >> AI I have seen uh well I remember this one video with the uh very um the Winnie the Pooh voice like the narrator of Winnie the Pooh. It sounded like that they used AI and there were so many glitches in there.
uh statement analysis AI yeah certain things are pointed out half of it can be used but it's only the simple part parts yeah you can use it but if you don't know what you're doing my advice is to stay the hell away from it >> that the kids are alive and well um oh my god >> taken and hidden by um reservation or somebody.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Basically possibly in in Maine.
>> Um, you know, just it's it almost follows the Derwood scenario, but it it gave it a little >> again she spends a lot of time on things that she herself knows shouldn't be uh spent time shouldn't be uh time shouldn't be spent on. Let's say it like that.
and she knows it.
But um that's often the problem with these long lives where people talk about things that are uh you know and I've experienced that too when you do a live and all of a sudden you look at your chat and people point out things that are not important.
But you see, that's when I cut it off and say, "Let's not talk about it."
Okay? I have to put myself into the in a position almost like a judge where I say, "Nope, the jury is not going to hear this until I review the evidence because the only thing I'm going to do is confuse people and add to the circus." And it's very important for me that I limit my speech to what uh is at least a very strong indicator for something important.
Let's hear it a bit more credibility because he's a cyber or forensic cyber specialist and um you know and and that was >> I think that fogwoman had him on, right?
Yeah. Some of you sent it to me, but I [clears throat] again ignore >> worrisome to me that uh that the I mean it's abs.
>> Okay, so she's now waffling around too.
Why is she doing it? Because she spent time on it. I don't think she should have. She knows she shouldn't have.
There goes a blink again.
Because um you know, for obvious It's decept it's a deceptive move. Let's say it like that on her part.
>> Absolutely bizarre to think, but if I mean, if you don't know what it is, then I I don't >> And you don't need to know. Nobody should know. Nobody needs to know this.
>> If you can really speak on it at all, but >> you cannot. She cannot even linguistically commit to it having any importance whatsoever.
So, that's what I'm talking about, guys.
That's why I'm often so critical of these types of channels because they kind of throw everything out there and see what sticks and we have to do better than that >> more so about you know the kids being alive and well and being hidden somewhere. Do you do you have an [clears throat] opinion on that?
>> I I guess >> okay that's interesting now >> and dive into that. I'll give you my subjective opinion on it. When it comes to AI, it's going to >> uh What about you answer the question about the claim that they're hidden somewhere?
>> Stupid claim, but I still want to know what Daniel has to say.
>> Yeah, we're the internet.
And >> the internet is always wrong, right, Daniel? The internet is unfair. The internet. The internet. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
in [clears throat] conjunction with everything it can pull up. It's going to pull up everything on the case, right?
And it's going to compile um an a scenario that it thinks is right. Right. It's it's not going to pull off any >> Yeah. Yeah.
He's very careful.
>> You redacted documents because the redacted documents for major crimes are sealed.
>> Well, I guess AI No, never mind.
>> Private server, right? They can't be accessed by any >> That's not what she suggested, dude. He suggested that AI was able to uh you know process everything, put the context, put everything in context and with that zoom in on the possibilities of what the redaction could have been which is a good concept which can work.
It can also go very very wrong and if it goes very wrong and the redactions are not unredacted then people will be stuck with the wrong guesses normal RCP officer it's major crimes officers and their team social media team and and you know the tip the guy who collects tips and they would be the only ones who have access to that information they'd be stored on a private law enforcement server and that would be encrypted as well. So AI just basically generates um >> Yes.
>> a gathering of everything that's compiled on the internet.
>> Yeah.
>> So basically it just takes every every well-known story that was said and runs it through a list of like what happens. So >> yeah, I don't want to get into this.
There I have a lot more to say about this too. But uh I think in time I will I think on my next live I'm going to talk more about that you know just to get some clarity happening right here.
It's not an accurate um out.
>> Yeah, AI also can be um never mind. If AI takes into consideration the overload of force theor theories not a good thing. So I don't know what data. Yeah, never mind. I'll get more into it later.
People >> look on everything, right? Darren has just said a lot about you know the reserves and you know because it's been said in so many groups and openly in group chats AI's >> okay >> it's going to pull all that from the internet pull news articles it's going to do everything to estimate you know what events took place >> AI is not able to analyze statements at this point in time correctly AI can be confused Right. And I mean the more AI information that's out there, right or wrong, >> then it that starts feeding into the algorithm. And I was saying the other day on a show that uh >> yeah, >> now if you Google, you can't even be sure that that's factual information because it's AI pulling from everything right or wrong, true or false. But that's what we're getting in Google searches now. So that's that's correct because if you get 10,000 people >> so he doesn't want to say it directly but you know he knows the whole reservation thing is complete nonsense it's a form of avoidance but how long have I been doing this now 30 what 36 minutes okay well I keep going a little more >> people to go search one thing is Jack and Lily on a reservation right and you get 10,000 people to do that, that's going to that's going to raise in the algorithm for AI and that's going to be, you know, a frequently asked question.
So, it's going to push that question first when people want to know where's >> D.
>> It's going to automatically jump. People think they're on a reservation. I personally don't think that.
>> Mhm.
>> Because >> because [clears throat] Uhhuh. He feels a need to tell us why.
Well, I think that you know they're not there. Go ahead. At this point, if they were ever found on a reservation, um >> that ban would take a massive amount of heat. And there is possible with the large scale of this investigation that, you know, >> yeah, >> they may be able to do something federally with that band or their federal land at this point if they're, you know, harboring victims of a crime, >> right?
>> Interesting choice of words. Interesting choice of words, right? Harboring victims of a crime.
>> [clears throat] >> Be specific, Daniel. What crime?
What is the crime? Not a crime. What is the crime?
[clears throat and cough] >> That's what like I talked to a First Nations lady the other day in my area and she said they would be risking so much and they've fought so long and so hard. doesn't matter where in Canada, they would be risking [clears throat] all of that. Really quickly, though, there's >> there's some stuff that I want to get to in chat. Um, people are just really thanking you for coming out today, Daniel, and I super appreciate that.
Here's one that I thought uh would be good to highlight. I I I have no doubt that you have no idea.
>> Daniel, we haven't seen each other in years, but I remember the little boy who played with Sunny the dog and had the brightest smile. I hope you can find that little boy inside of you again.
Yeah.
>> Who this is, but but I do. And uh she says, "Daniel, we haven't seen each other in years, but I remember the little boy boy who played with Sunny the dog and had the brightest smile. I hope you can find that little boy inside of you again." So, little bit of uh this is your life, I guess. And uh you can play a guessing game with yourself if you want.
>> That's that's been a long that's been a long time. I can't I don't know for 100% on that, but that's been a long time.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Um SH, can you ask Daniel if there's any way Malia could have done something to the kids without you and Janie knowing?
>> And thank you for the answer in advance.
>> Go for it.
>> I don't think so. It would have been physically impossible for her to move them off of the property >> or hand them over to somebody without you knowing. Yeah. You know, and that's where you and your mommy don't really see eye to eye. And your mommy, of course, is on overprotective mode. Um, you know, at least you have a little more sense than your mom right now.
And you've learned the hard way.
If you throw too much garbage out there, you know it's going to come back to you.
But your mom is not that s your mom is not like you because you read a lot. You read about the reactions that you know that your statements trigger and your mom doesn't. your mom is just like, "Well, this is what I have to say and this is, you know, herself, right?" Because when I jumped in the vehicle that morning, um, when she was still in the dispatch call, the vehicle, the white Nissan Pathfinder, I know some people always say, "Daniel, you always give a description of Maya's car." Yeah. And it's important. Details are important. So, when I jumped in the car, >> Yeah. details are important, dude. You said it. Let's see when you're going to practice some more avoidance. Right now, >> I know it's coming.
>> The engine was still on cold, right?
>> So, I had to wait a couple seconds for the RPMs to lower. So, I knew the vehicle was not driven that day.
So, and the kids are not on the property, so there's nothing that Malia could have done. Two of the kids that morning.
>> That morning. You got it. That morning, right? And uh >> and you know Friday wasn't it and you're not even going to try to convince us anymore because you know how ridiculous it is.
Well, I'm going to go a little bit more.
Should I?
Interesting, right?
>> [clears throat] >> Well, I got to do some other stuff real quick.
Goodness gracious, people. How is everybody doing?
What about the night before? like just because you don't really remember. You knew it was getting dark when you went in the house and >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Charmaine, don't answer for him. [snorts] Don't tell don't um let him answer. Don't give him the answers.
>> The kids were already in bed, so >> I want to hear it from him. That's a big mistake. You don't want to give the subject the answers and make it too easy for them because you take away the possibility that they're going to leak some information.
>> Um I don't know. We've heard so many different stories.
>> Yeah. Minimization.
Uh it's almost like a form of gaslighting again where she's saying no.
Yeah. This is a story. This is nothing really. But I want to ask you anyways.
Well, okay. I think this may be a style that works with him where, you know, you ask a question and say, "Oh, by the way, you know, it's nothing. It's probably nothing." When in reality, that's what it's all about. The Thursday, the night before, that is my area of interest, people 100%.
>> [clears throat and cough] >> from the other from Malayaia's side about, you know, Daniel slept all night.
Daniel was up all night. I walked in on Daniel doing drugs.
>> And notice how he doesn't really say anything right now. As a matter of fact, he's leaning back happy that she's giving the answers for him because now you cannot necessarily count it as an avoidance.
And that's what he wants.
>> Something in the living room. Daniel drugged me. So, I mean, whatever. I don't even >> Yeah. I don't I'm not interested. I want to hear from him >> to get into that with you. But is there is there something about that night that you've been able to think back on? Have you like racked your brain about that night at I've said this I've said this openly before. When I >> Okay.
>> When I walked by Jack and Lily's room at >> just a little bit after midnight. I've said this before. I flicked on >> Wait, was it after midnight or was it before midnight? I thought it was before midnight. I have to listen to it again.
>> The lights and both of them were sleeping and they were underneath the covers. And that was after 12.
flick the lights on. I believe the lights were on around midnight for a while. I believe he came back to get some items and I believe that it's possible somebody could have seen the lights on and that's why preemptively he is volunteering information about him flicking the lights on people preemptively wanting to explain something giving a false explanation for something that could be used against him.
It's a very highly sensitive subject matter here. But what I'm interested in is between 8 and 10 p.m. What happened then, not afterwards, not what you already volunteered.
I'm interested in what you have not volunteered that you should get more into detail with what happened then. When did the kids go inside? When did you go inside?
What did you do? What was Malaya doing?
I want to know the details. I want to hear from you everything.
And this is where we at, my friends.
We're back to the avoidance.
And you know, I again I give her credit for this part where she is uh getting [clears throat] back into it.
Remember when I brought it up with Janie? Immediately Janie was like, "Well, I can tell. You know, I think I'm done for now, guys, but I want to hear a little bit about the Thursday that had no detail."
So, and I did see Lily that morning twice, you know, as I said, and I heard Jack in the kitchen. So, there was nothing that happened on Thursday night.
And I'll touch on some of the other >> What do you mean there's nothing that happened on Thursday night?
Tell us what happened. Don't tell us what didn't happen.
when they tell us what didn't happen.
It can also be a major avoidance where they don't want to tell us what took place.
If you have a an accident and you tell us what you Okay, never mind guys. I'm I'm I think I'm going to stop this right now. I think that this part needs to be examined a lot further.
I will get to this in my next video.
Thank you for watching.
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