Prehistoric Kingdom Allosaurus & Surviving Earth!

Hinzugefügt: 2026-06-02

[00:00:00]How's it going everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Paleop Pod, the podcast where we talk about Paleo things. My name is Dino Guy.

[00:00:06]>> I'm Lakota.

[00:00:07]>> And I'm Paleo Pizza. And today we have a lot of really cool things to discuss.

[00:00:12]Well, not too much. This might be a shorter episode all things considered.

[00:00:15]Uh but yeah, there's some cool paleontology discoveries that we can discuss. Uh we finally know where turtles belong in the evolutionary tree in the reptile family, her and the reptile group. uh new unilid from from uh Argentina and some dinosaur movie news. So, what do we want to start off with, gentlemen?

[00:00:33]>> Turtles.

[00:00:34]>> Turtles. We can start off with turtles.

[00:00:36]>> Start out with the turtles.

[00:00:37]>> Yeah, let's start off with turtles.

[00:00:38]>> Turtles.

[00:00:39]>> I I'll bring this up. So, all right.

[00:00:43]Those of you who have been around long enough know that I've got beef with turtles. All right. I have said it multiple times. Yeah. Now look from from a evol biology is losing it over there or pale pizza. Um but I I I have long said that turtles have been a pain because they are the crabs of the vertebrate world. Turtles have evolved separately so many different times and depending on what your definition of a turtle is. They have been everything from dinosaurs, mammals like with armadillos and the enkyosaurs and stuff like crocodilians tried to do it once with armadillos. not sure what's going on with them. Uh but because of that, consequently, uh it is really hard to place where turtles are because of how many times this body plan has evolved.

[00:01:33]Um so essentially, uh now we actually have a decent understanding of where they are. Uh the confusion around like where they are phloenetically comes with the fact that the turtle body plan seems to be a really good body plan for burrowing animals. So there are a lot of um burrowing animals from the past that kind of end up looking like early proto turtles. They've got like the spled out like ribs and stuff like that. They look like they could have been like the precursor to turtles. Well, turns out some of those aren't that. Um, and now it would appear that turtles have been placed as a sister lineage to the Arasaurans, uh, while also being an Arcosauromorph lineage. Um, which I'm sitting here and I'm just like, finally, finally, I I can finally tell people where turtles are and not have to go, turtles are weird. I mean, they are still, but >> Yeah, they're pretty weird animals.

[00:02:39]Yeah. Now, for some more practical context of that, arosaurs are essentially like there's two different arcosaurs that are alive today. The crocodilians and the birds, which means that turtles are more closely related to those guys than they are to lizards. If you want to know where that sits in a practical sense, I suppose, which is exciting stuff. We can now say what they're more related to in the reptile group because birds are reptiles.

[00:03:05]>> Yes. Um, it's I'm just kind of happy that we finally have a conclusion to all of this. I I have this is been one of my biggest things with paleontology for like the last few years or maybe not like the biggest thing cuz like the whole nano debacle and the internet's not letting me forget that. Um, but like still this is just one of those things where you're like really hope we get an answer and now we have it.

[00:03:33]>> We have an answer. That's awesome.

[00:03:35]We could put a nice little bow on it.

[00:03:38]>> Yeah, the phlogenetic tree is of course really helpful with that in that case.

[00:03:42]Um, so yeah, turtles, we know where you we know where you where you sit where you sit genetically.

[00:03:50]>> Now I I'd like to hear about uh this.

[00:03:55]What is it? The new Overapter >> uh Yun Legid, which is Yeah. the newly proposed family that potentially contains dinosaurs like improbattor and ostra. It's a family that is more closely related to birds than droasaurs even are. Uh so these guys are like in a lot of ways probably like way more closer to birds than something like a Utah raptor or velociraptor. Um this new guy has been given the name of kank arrus. It lived in the lake cretaceous of Argentina around 70 million years ago. It was found with neck vertebrae, teeth and toebones and it has been identified as a Union legid which again to reiterate is that newly proposed family which means it's closely related to improbtor and to ostra if that family actually sticks. But since they've officially assigned it to that family, I assume that family is sticking. I don't know where we are with that. Um, >> there's something fishy about this family.

[00:04:56]>> Yes, something pretty fishy about this family. It does seem like Kink was a piscorous uh animal. Uh, because for one thing, the neck vertebrae have been compared to those of some modern-day birds, fishing birds like herand designed in a way that allows them to strike the water to grab some fish. So, it seems likely that uh Kank here was using its neck vertebrae for this very same thing. Plus, it was found in close proximity to other fish fossils, which indicates that it was spending a lot of time around that. And something that I'm obligated to mention because all of the articles are mentioning it. Kank Australas did live alongside miprothorax.

[00:05:41]>> Oh, I've got screenshots to take in Path of Titans now.

[00:05:44]>> Yeah, there you go.

[00:05:46]Have to be sneaking around then.

[00:05:50]Um, so yeah, and the new art that's depicting it is making it look like Ostroaptor, which is a fair assessment because of the elongated thin snouts that Ostroaptor has. Uh, so yeah, it's a it's a very cool discovery and it's another like uh another piece of the puzzle that has been found in Argentina in recent years.

[00:06:11]>> Can I ask one question?

[00:06:14]>> What's up?

[00:06:16]>> Why is it species name Aralus? Cuz Australia translates to southern something.

[00:06:22]>> Oh, does it?

[00:06:23]>> Not to be confused. Australia.

[00:06:25]>> Yeah, not to be confused with that.

[00:06:26]>> That's what I was.

[00:06:27]>> Where's my phone?

[00:06:30]>> Australia translates to southern something. I can't remember what. Let me let me check.

[00:06:38]>> Um, there be the southern cross.

[00:06:43]>> Yeah, Australia literally just translates to southern. And it's just it's a reference to the fact that these guys lived in the southern hemisphere as opposed to the northern hemisphere where mo mostly droaurs lived because of course lived in the southern hemisphere as well. Yeah. Oh, hold on. This is a really cool Hold on. The the genus name Kang references the elder Rya who in forgive me I don't know how to pronounce this but I'll try my best. and Noken mythology created the constellation of uh Cho Chowis I'm probably or the southern cross the specific name Australia or Australas in Latin words means from the south referencing the geographical region for the species that's cool >> okay >> yeah so it doesn't have doesn't have much to do with the continent rather has everything to do with the hemisphere >> the question I never really looked massively into it. But with the north and southern hemispheres and the southern heavens having some like fishing uh well this new family more fishing style things was any like large droiosaurs in the southern hemisphere.

[00:07:52]>> Well dasaurs have mainly been found in the northern hemisphere.

[00:07:56]>> Yeah.

[00:07:57]>> Uh whereas whereas union legids are seem to be predominantly found in the southern hemisphere at least towards the latter half of the cretaceous period.

[00:08:08]So it's like battle the niches then filling out different places and whatnot.

[00:08:12]>> Probably although this discovery does kind of show that like uh Union legs might have mainly been fish eating animals because currently we have two of them that >> seem to have adaptations for a pisgiverous lifestyle.

[00:08:27]>> Also housecarraptor >> housecarraptor uh I'm not sure where housecarraptor sits. Is it like a part of Union Leg or is it is it like cuz there's been a lot of question about its placement too. Um it it has been considered a droasaur for a while but I think in recent years it's been that's been kind of shaky.

[00:08:48]>> Yeah. I'm looking now >> like the same thing happened to Improbator. It was considered a Domeasaur for a while.

[00:08:55]>> Yeah, that thing's >> I love these big shakeups.

[00:08:58]>> Mhm.

[00:08:59]>> The big shakeups always make things interesting. Oh, that is just the core of paleontology. It is inevitable.

[00:09:05]>> Yep. It Okay. Housecaraptor doesn't have a family anymore. It's just aside from its uh it's like clay of the househap.

[00:09:16]Uh it's just listed as therapod, >> right? So, I think that's mainly just because it's kind of tricky to figure out.

[00:09:24]>> Yeah.

[00:09:24]>> It's just a prehistoric pigeon. That's all it is.

[00:09:27]>> Prehistoric pigeon. Yes. I I'd call it like a prehistoric miniature goose, honestly. But yeah, someone >> possibly swam, but of course that's a debate, too.

[00:09:40]>> Yeah, >> those trace fossils.

[00:09:42]>> Yeah.

[00:09:45]>> No. Um >> um so yeah, this guy, >> but um something in Paleo's neck of the woods.

[00:09:54]Uh, I heard that the Jurassic World evolution accounts are active again.

[00:09:58]What's going on with that?

[00:09:59]>> Yes, whatever. Well, the the qualas has left the satellite station where it was buming up their uh signals is what they said, but yeah, whatever has been happening. Obviously, there's been a fair bit of like theory into why Jurassic or all of Jurassic wasn't being able to post um down to I think it was a fight on a different series that was basically run and built of Kryon. So, there's a there was a lot of hooha what the theory could be about it. But, yeah, we're back in business. Everything's now back open. And uh this week or when this comes out, we'll be having uh Draco Rex and Leopllodon family units to add to our parks, which I'm super excited for.

[00:10:46]Leopllodon being one of my favorite marine reptiles. So, I'm happy it's back. um debate if we get ourselves a a new remodel along with the Frontier original design, which I really like Frontier's original design still because it's kind of fits in that monsteresque like feel that Jurassic Creatures tend to have as theme park attractions rather than being 100% paleo accurate. So, kind of excited for those. Uh Draco Rex again coming back. I love I love the the comments for Draco Rex saying, "Oh, what's the point? We still have a juvenile pachy sephilosaurus in the game even though it's the arguments now more centered that it's more likely Draco Rex is his own thing rather than >> I love it. Like the comments are quite funny.

[00:11:35]>> That debate um is way too close to the nano debate and I'm I'm not I'm not taking a stance. Absolutely not. But it has been funny seeing what people have been saying.

[00:11:51]Uh yeah. And then uh but actually do we want to speculate on what the delay was over? Cuz like I they haven't said anything.

[00:12:03]>> We have such little information. I think that would mainly just that would we we I don't know if like cuz we could we could speculate but then I I don't know.

[00:12:11]There's really not much we can say about that. I think >> just go off the rails with it.

[00:12:16]>> Yeah. The speculation with like the the law thing seems nearly accurate. I once said it would been a direct direct reason for it but because what to go in there was a a a doctor show which was written by Kryon and the company that want it wasn't universal it was a different company altogether Warner Brothers they had kind of copyrighted it instead of they were trying to I think trying to get out having to pay Kryton's family the money that would be ow you know deserved to them because >> they obviously all those rights got passed to them um to get around it. They basically made the same thing but made these little changes and because of that I think Universal wanted to obviously they obviously want to protect Jurassic uh world and Jurassic Park cuz it's one of a very big money bringer to the company. So they've probably what they've done is make sure like put everything on pause, everything quiet whilst this is going through the courts and probably made sure with Kryton that it's still it's something to do with protected image if I remember rightly.

[00:13:26]So they probably gone got the their lawyer teams and stuff like that to make sure everything's still following suit so they don't fall under what's happened to Warner Brothers. That that is the the kind of guess I'm getting from what other people put out there. Like it's I'm guessing Universal playing safe than like unsafe.

[00:13:50]>> Yeah.

[00:13:50]>> Okay.

[00:13:53]But hey, glad to see they're active again. Can't wait to see the the new updates, DLCs, stuff like that. Looking forward to all of that. It's going to be sick.

[00:14:01]>> Yeah. Now that we know it's all coming and it's not just soon.

[00:14:05]>> Yeah. Um, and I guess to keep it in the the gaming sphere, but also to compare to some some movies, we have the official design for the large therapod in End of Oak Street. Uh, and I'd like to talk about that.

[00:14:21]>> Yeah.

[00:14:21]>> Uh, cuz it's >> Luffy.

[00:14:25]>> It's It's a look. It is It is a look.

[00:14:28]And I I'll quickly throw it in the side chat over here. put some of the the artwork that I forgot to delete before we started. But um it is interesting. Uh and I'd like to first state the obvious. Industrial Light and Magic strikes again. Another Dominion Allosaurus. Uh um the spike to design with feathers.

[00:14:59]>> I like it.

[00:15:00]>> What? I don't like it. I don't mind it personally.

[00:15:05]>> That's character to it.

[00:15:06]>> Like true.

[00:15:07]>> My my whole thought process with this is is that the Dominion Allosaurus really doesn't have the worst model in the world.

[00:15:16]>> Um the only thing >> on the back.

[00:15:19]>> Yeah. The the things that bring it down are some of the proportions. Those need to be tweaked. And the colors are really kind of bland. And the osteoderms. This this at least gets rid of one of those things. Those being the osteoderms. Um the spikes are a bit annoying, but I guess they could those could be chocked up to caratinus spikes, which are not necessarily something we have evidence for. So, it's the basically as likely as the feathers that are present right here. Uh and of course, the feathers are a whole other thing. I will never get upset about seeing feathers, especially to this degree, on a large therapod like that. The crest actually looks really cool, too. The head shape looks pretty good. The arms are set a little bit too far back, but it's not terrible. It's like >> the blue in his face.

[00:16:05]>> Yeah. Like, I really don't mind it so much, you know? I I think it could look way worse and I think I was expecting it to look worse than this, which is probably why I don't mind it as much right here. Plus, I think I really do like the the touch of adding feathers to it. I think that was a decent direction to take especially if you want to stand apart from say the Jurassic franchise who they are very picky with what they put feathers on.

[00:16:37]>> I feel the most annoying thing about this scene for me really is if both these kids survive like that catchment range and distance and the kids the speed. If they both survive and the Allosaurus doesn't even grab one of them, it would like Yeah, it's that um what's it called? Plot armor.

[00:17:00]>> Yeah.

[00:17:02]>> So, some other things I wanted to mention was some of the inspiration that was used for this movie. Um you want to know what one of the pieces of of inspiration was?

[00:17:14]>> What?

[00:17:15]>> Signs.

[00:17:17]>> Signs. You know that alien movie um that >> Oh, that's right.

[00:17:23]>> It had the shot of the the with the alien walking out of the bush. There needs to be a shot like that in this movie. Now >> with the Allosaurus, that shot >> or like see like in someone's back garden or something just walking across and like >> in my video I mentioned that they should revive the dinosauroid and use it for that shot.

[00:17:45]>> Well, the the True Dawn one. Yeah, the the evolved trot >> that would be terrifying.

[00:17:54]>> I mean, I've seen that in the Nat Geo comics.

[00:17:59]Oh, magazine. The N Geio magazine really scaring me as a kid.

[00:18:03]>> Yeah.

[00:18:05]>> Been freaked out by like away from me.

[00:18:12]>> I I Okay, here's my thing. I understand why they're reusing this model so much.

[00:18:22]Okay, I get it. It's a money thing. All right, I understand it. But I am so sick and tired of people looking me in the face and trying to tell me that's not the same Allosaurus that we've seen in Dominion Battle at Big Rock and also in the dinosaurs. And now here, look, they've added feathers to it.

[00:18:43]>> Okay, you need to back up. Well, >> I I I mean I I I agree, but the snout shape I don't think is as blocky as in Dominion.

[00:18:53]>> Maybe not, but I I appreciate, you know, the feathers and stuff. I don't know how I feel about with like the the caratinous spines down the back while also having the feather. It's a choice.

[00:19:06]It's cool. I I I like it. It's speculative. And you know, we keep saying, "Hey, try to be weird." This is very clearly an attempt to be a little weird uh and and different and it sets it apart. So, I'll give it credit where credit's due. Um I will say, and this is why I brought this up uh with like the gaming stuff, I think Prehistoric Kingdom pulled it off better. Oh, well, I mean, >> that fork found in Kitchen, too. Like >> the most lukewarm cake ever.

[00:19:44]there. There's no beats in like prehistoric kingdom on this >> and I I I I definitely agree with you, Lakota. My thought process is mainly just like built around the fact that I was expecting it to look worse. Like the minute we saw spikes on, you know, when we we saw that brief shot of it running by the window and we saw spikes, I was like, "Oh, it's going to look like a crocodile, isn't it?" So, I'm mainly just like, >> yeah, I'm mainly relieved that it doesn't look like a crocodile. But you are right in the fact that it is kind of unfortunate that they do seem to be just using the same model and only tweaking it slightly in terms of the proportions anyway. I completely agree with that.

[00:20:23]>> I think this all goes down to familiarity.

[00:20:26]Like especially when you're like producing films that aren't just focused on paleo nerds, you'll think where if everything looks similar, people are going to recognize it easier and faster.

[00:20:37]Hence why a lot of T-Rexes in films look like the Jurassic Park T-Rex and then same now going for Allosaurus.

[00:20:46]>> It's just to be familiarized.

[00:20:49]>> And I'll add this, it's really good to see Allosaurus taking some spotlight again.

[00:20:55]>> Yeah.

[00:20:55]>> Uh cuz it it it got that spot taken from it by T-Rex by the time we reached like the 90s. Uh so it's really cool to see sp uh to see Allosaurus again like taking these these bigger roles in uh movies and documentaries as well with the dinosaurs. Uh again like I know I complained that it's the same model, but I did really like the scarring that they had on the the big female and the dinosaurs.

[00:21:21]>> I don't see a cowboy in this film trying to fight the Allosaurus.

[00:21:27]>> He's got a lasso. just gets it stuck on the crest. You're just like, uh >> oh swung into the air.

[00:21:37]>> Love I'd love to see it.

[00:21:40]>> Yeah. But yeah, again, I do I do agree with you. I I definitely do. Yeah.

[00:21:45]>> Can see I think I still I still want to figure out who put a plyasaur in someone's basement. That's why I still want to know.

[00:21:54]>> Oh, yeah. There's >> a plasaw in the basement.

[00:21:59]You know what my my number one fear about this movie is though?

[00:22:03]>> Well, >> based off of like the the premise of it, >> someone's pet is going to get eaten by something.

[00:22:11]>> And that's like the main reason I didn't like the San Diego scene in Jurassic Park 2. Like, that's the one part I skip. Look, I love animals. I've worked in in um in uh uh daycare centers. I've worked with dogs, cats, all that stuff.

[00:22:26]and my my brother's a vet. So, I I I can't it's just I can't stand to see stuff like that, but I know it's going to happen because it's like a whole neighborhood street got sent back in time and no one's dog or cat came with them.

[00:22:43]>> What should be a Chihuahua with some kind of Barbie like name like Prince or Buttercup?

[00:22:50]>> Like, oh no, Buttercup, don't do that.

[00:22:51]It's just a yapping at some dramas or something and it gets eaten.

[00:22:56]already see it.

[00:22:57]>> Do you say Chihuahua? Cuz don't you have a Chihuahua dino?

[00:23:03]>> Yeah, >> but I notic like a lot of horror films or alien films or like zombie films like that. If a dog is getting eaten, a lot of modern films, it's usually some like dressed up Chihuahua.

[00:23:17]>> It's like not like a normal Chihuahua, but like the handbag Chihuahua.

[00:23:21]>> Yeah, it's Yeah, it's kind of a cliche by this point.

[00:23:26]Yeah.

[00:23:27]>> So, at the same time, we will also be getting a new trailer tomorrow on Monday.

[00:23:34]>> Yes.

[00:23:34]>> Um, so we might see more of these dinosaurs. We might see different dinosaurs than just the Allosaurus. If I were to guess, we're going back to the Jurassic. We've seen a lot a plyiosaur.

[00:23:45]We've seen possibly a brachiosaurus. And we've seen an allosaurus. I assume we're in the Jurassic. And that's of course assuming that they actually abide by the the different time periods and don't just mix a bunch of dinosaurs together.

[00:23:58]>> My my favorite thing is I don't think the I'll point out there something stupid, but I don't think the ply saw came with them. I think it was already there and someone's keeping it in the basement as a pet. When you look at the shot of the street or the neighborhood being in that area, it's surrounded by forest.

[00:24:17]>> There is no rivers. There is no sea. It was surrounded by Where's this plyasaur come from?

[00:24:24]>> You've only seen one section of the forest. You don't know if there's a beach on the other side.

[00:24:30]>> It's in a basement.

[00:24:32]>> Yeah, maybe maybe it's like a ca maybe it's like a cave uh plyasaur and it like that basement like interlocked with the cave.

[00:24:41]>> No, someone's cloned it. Someone's made it. That's why they're like, "Oh, I I just called it Barry. There it is.

[00:24:49]bury the plyasaur biology >> maybe. I mean I I could definitely see a plot point of like some kid in the movie finds like this baby plyasaur and like it grows up over the course of the which would be bizarre but like I I guess maybe the story takes place over the course of a few months maybe I don't know just grows up and now there's just a plyasaur sitting in someone's basement.

[00:25:14]>> It's like it was like this small when I first found it. It wasn't I could see the stupid horror scenario that needs to be done. Like, oh, we need to turn the breakers on for the house and it's in there. So, we're now going to have to step on the washing machine, the dryer, the block fridge, freezer to get to that whilst being snapped at by saw.

[00:25:36]>> It's just it can actually just jump out of the water and grab them. I don't know. Like, >> no, no, not it's got to be there for the plot.

[00:25:46]They've got to awkwardly navigate around it for the blot. I can see it.

[00:25:52]>> Okay, we'll see. This feels like one of those videos where it's going to be like people are going back over it and it's like, are you people stupid? Are you all stupid?

[00:26:04]>> You not seen the film? It's been out for a month now.

[00:26:10]>> I still get comments on my like Nanotyrannus memes like, "Hey, have you not heard the news?"

[00:26:14]>> Yeah. Yeah, I did.

[00:26:15]>> I do, too.

[00:26:18]>> Like, you got to fight the urge to say, "Did you look at the date?" Gosh.

[00:26:27]>> Um, kind of still delving in in um the news of gaming and dinosaurs and that Claude has gotten a release date.

[00:26:37]>> Oh, yeah. I saw you posted that.

[00:26:40]>> 23rd of July.

[00:26:42]>> So, we'll play that.

[00:26:44]We played it we we played the demo and we had a lot of fun with the de the demo. So definitely expect that on our on our channels.

[00:26:52]>> We'll have to see if they improve the welfare of the enclosures of the animals.

[00:26:58]>> Stegosaurus enclosure went up to spec inspection.

[00:27:07]>> No, that was a fun game. But yeah, 21st of July.

[00:27:13]>> Not too far off. All things considered, I suppose >> when this goes out, >> my birthday.

[00:27:18]>> That's your birthday.

[00:27:20]>> No, it's after my birthday. My birthday is July 8th.

[00:27:23]>> Okay.

[00:27:24]>> I'll be 22 this year.

[00:27:25]>> 22. 22. He was like 20 when we all met.

[00:27:30]>> Yeah.

[00:27:30]>> Yeah, I was. A lot of people were really startled by that. Uh when when I turned 21, I think Kennady was someone I talked to and they were like, "Dude, I thought you were like already in like your mid20s." I was like, "No, >> you're older."

[00:27:44]>> Did you actually?

[00:27:45]>> Yeah. And then you told me my DS is older than you. That's that reality check.

[00:27:53]>> JPO's older than me.

[00:27:56]>> Is it 2000?

[00:27:58]>> When did it come out?

[00:27:59]>> 2003.

[00:28:01]>> Yeah, it's older than I am. I was born in 2004.

[00:28:07]>> I have fun memories of that game's release and it being there at the desk when I got home.

[00:28:14]>> Yeah.

[00:28:16]>> You weren't even there.

[00:28:19]>> Another session of Lakota making everyone feel old.

[00:28:24]>> The grays in my beard are more grayer.

[00:28:30]It's gonna be John Hammond by the time the pod like we're done with the podcast. Be over here with the dino guy's hat and he got the cane and everything.

[00:28:40]>> Extracting do questionable things with reptile DNA.

[00:28:45]>> So the trees can climb trees. Trees can climb trees.

[00:28:48]>> Climb trees.

[00:28:51]God.

[00:28:54]>> What are you doing? put a frog in the trees cuz the trees could climb trees.

[00:29:01]>> God, that was that was quite a We were getting away from a mammoth if I remember right.

[00:29:06]>> Something like that.

[00:29:07]>> Some you I think you were murdering a mammoth actually stuck in a tree and you were just sit there like >> Yeah. He's like, "I'm going to put frog DNA in you, boy.

[00:29:20]>> Ever heard of a ribbit?" Cuz you will do.

[00:29:26]I remember the next day too. I think I was streaming the same mod pack and Dino Guy randomly joined me and I didn't see him. So like I'm coming back up from a cave and there's just General Grievous staring at me. I'm like where did you come from?

[00:29:44]>> Yeah, >> I remember that.

[00:29:51]Oh shoot. You like tamed a utyrannis if I remember correctly.

[00:29:55]>> Yeah. Well, it's me. Of course, I tamed a ut's no.

[00:30:00]>> Yeah. So, you got to go with the second second best thing. Oh, speaking of which, there was a new trailer for surviving Earth that gave us a pretty good look at the Nanukaurus. Oh, did you guys not see it?

[00:30:12]>> Don't think I did. I was so focused on >> my radar >> other stuff.

[00:30:16]>> Oh, no. Here, let me >> Hold on.

[00:30:17]>> Here, we'll do a >> We're doing a live reaction. Yeah, we'll do a live reaction as well.

[00:30:22]>> I didn't even see it on Twitter where I usually see everything for surviving Earth, the Spinosaurus.

[00:30:29]>> Long before this planet was our home, it was theirs.

[00:30:38]Uhoh.

[00:30:40]>> Is on Earth >> shaped by catastrophic events.

[00:30:46]>> Where creatures of >> Oh, >> have always had to find >> Oh, the herd >> to survive.

[00:31:01]>> Serious.

[00:31:02]>> You liar. Get back here. spending millions of years where every moment is a fight.

[00:31:10]>> Oh, hard one.

[00:31:14]>> Oh, >> and against all odds.

[00:31:17]>> Oh, >> life prevails.

[00:31:25]>> Wow.

[00:31:27]>> Yeah, dude.

[00:31:28]>> Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. Go, go back to the the Spinosaurus. Hold on. Did I spot something? Hold on. When it like lays its head down. Does that Spinosaurus have lacrial crests?

[00:31:37]>> It does. I was so curious about that.

[00:31:41]Um.

[00:31:41]>> Whoa.

[00:31:42]>> This one was completely designed by Gabriel Uguetto as well.

[00:31:49]>> Trust them.

[00:31:49]>> Yeah. Like maybe there's something we don't know.

[00:31:54]>> Trust the process. I I don't know how well that that sticks with now the the research on um like the salt glands, but that's still a really cool design.

[00:32:03]>> Of course, the salt glands were more post orbital like back here, I think.

[00:32:09]>> So, maybe that wouldn't get in the way.

[00:32:11]Hard to say.

[00:32:13]>> Maybe not.

[00:32:14]>> I like the desire for it. But and was it was we seen the Sicilian dwarf elephants? Was that what the baby ones were? No, I think that they are those masttodon relatives that you drew that one time.

[00:32:27]>> Oh, the curved.

[00:32:28]>> Yeah.

[00:32:31]>> And then obviously get that get that good shot of the the nook.

[00:32:35]>> Yeah, dude.

[00:32:37]>> Yeah.

[00:32:42]>> Wow.

[00:32:43]>> I just feel I feel like redemption.

[00:32:49]>> Wow. It It just looks so good.

[00:32:52]>> It does, doesn't it?

[00:32:55]>> The The hands look a lot better than they did on like the first piece of promotional art where they were just like kind of breaking. But that that looks good. The texture. I love how you can see like it looks like it has like this wet texture of like feathers on the back of it back.

[00:33:11]>> Yeah. And it's like >> together. The the lacrial crest are amazing. Nook has some really weird looking uh crests cuz they've got like um I I I think there's reason to believe that their crests are uh I think at least taller than normal. I don't know. There's something weird going on with them. But it looks so cool. Yeah, it looks >> I love the blue.

[00:33:37]>> Is this right before it gets bodied as well?

[00:33:40]>> Don't know about right before, but at least one of them will get bodied.

[00:33:47]Yeah, one of them.

[00:33:47]>> Look at that.

[00:33:50]>> So, yeah, every time I see Nanuksaurus in like one of my own YouTube videos or something, I always mention, I bet Lakota's happy.

[00:34:01]I've been watching some of your videos and like you'll bring up Nook and it's just like and you know, it's my buddy Lakota's favorite. I'm like, "Oh, okay.

[00:34:08]Thanks, man. Thanks for the shout out."

[00:34:10]>> I do the exact same thing with Carnotaurus.

[00:34:17]It's like obligatory. It's like if I mention them, it's like, well, I got to mention whose favorite it is.

[00:34:23]>> Might as well.

[00:34:24]>> I like the plyas in this as well.

[00:34:27]>> Yeah, that's a nice little scene.

[00:34:30]>> Yeah, >> look how cool they are.

[00:34:36]>> They were like making whale sounds, too, which I thought was interesting. Uh oh.

[00:34:40]>> I don't know if that's true for the actual final product or if it's just Oh, how about this? Like little dacttoodon playing dead.

[00:34:46]>> No, it's my friend trailer.

[00:34:49]The trailer like >> I'm not dead.

[00:34:52]>> Okay.

[00:34:55]>> It's like you you son of a >> Get her back.

[00:34:58]>> You're dead.

[00:35:00]>> His ankles, too. Look.

[00:35:02]>> Yeah. He's like, you son of a >> That's so cute. You would see that's a terrifying person. That's an adorable little pet.

[00:35:11]>> Little baby Inostran savior.

[00:35:14]Yeah. And this is where you're going to see the nanoaurs get trampled >> because herbivores aren't cannon foder anymore.

[00:35:28]>> No, not anymore. Not in this day and age.

[00:35:31]I also noticed some terror birds back there.

[00:35:35]>> I love the rhino herd. Oh.

[00:35:38]>> Oh, yeah. They're being chased, aren't they? Yeah.

[00:35:40]>> Yeah. And these guys are not toxon, like I incorrectly said. I just I can't remember what they're called. Uh, >> this would have to be like somewhere in South America, right?

[00:35:50]>> Yeah. I think Oh, I was watching someone who goes to a dig site where you find all these little rhinos >> and there's like even smaller species of these rhinos knocking around as well, but I can't think of the name.

[00:36:05]It's >> another windswept fossil bed.

[00:36:07]>> I got the name the other the other day, but I can't remember what it was called.

[00:36:13]Lot of Toxidon or something like that.

[00:36:14]Hold on.

[00:36:16]>> It's cool.

[00:36:17]>> I like I like that you even with just this shot, you can see that there is variation in the the models. Like this guy that's close all the way on the left, like he's got like a different pattern on that hump than the guy behind him and to the right. Oh yeah.

[00:36:36]>> I also like the fact I'm going to guess this one's a pregnant female as well.

[00:36:39]The one on the >> on the right side by itself. Like looking how the body spllays out compared to some of the others.

[00:36:48]>> It could be.

[00:36:51]>> I wonder what those >> kind of makes me think of like how goats look when they're pregnant.

[00:36:55]Yeah. What >> What was its name? This is going to kill me. Honestly, it's a good it's a gorgeous shot as well.

[00:37:05]>> Yeah, it's very nice.

[00:37:07]>> Very nice. Yeah, if anybody remembers their name, be sure to let us know.

[00:37:11]>> There's one thing I do want to see. I want to see more camelids.

[00:37:15]>> Like, you never see camelids anymore.

[00:37:18]>> I know. EP camels would be the goal. But there's so many cool camelids out there.

[00:37:22]>> I know. I saw you sharing like my pictures of the camel fossils at uh Labraa.

[00:37:28]>> Yeah. Oh, camel.

[00:37:35]North America or something. Get him a his own camel.

[00:37:41]>> My local zoo's got loads of camels and I just sit there cuz you forget how big camels are even to today's standards.

[00:37:48]>> They're like nearly elephant size some of them.

[00:37:50]>> Yeah, camels are huge.

[00:37:53]>> It's crazy how big they are.

[00:37:55]>> Yeah.

[00:37:56]the one camel meme. There's like these two guys and they keep like petting the camel. It's just like >> camels make some really weird noises.

[00:38:14]That's for sure.

[00:38:18]>> Normal to the camels, but to us, no.

[00:38:21]>> It's like us.

[00:38:22]>> Yeah, it doesn't make sense to us.

[00:38:23]>> They say the exact same thing to us, though. It's like, did you hear those weird noises those things make? Those those hairless apes one the other day and it screamed really weirdly.

[00:38:36]>> I thought we're the screaming goats of the animal world.

[00:38:39]>> Oh my gosh.

[00:38:40]>> We're the screaming goats. We It was us all along.

[00:38:44]>> Holy moly, >> man. That's something else. This pier came to me is camels. It's got hundreds of rhinos and well, not hundreds, but you know, I'm just adding a bit of splash of expense there. But it's got a lot of rhinos. It needs a camel.

[00:38:59]>> Yeah, it does.

[00:38:59]>> Even if it's just one.

[00:39:01]>> Like it it has like two rhinos and like one significant rhino relative.

[00:39:06]>> Yeah, >> that is quite a few.

[00:39:10]>> Yeah. Um, do we want to quickly cover the whole thing with prehistoric kingdom? cuz I know we already did that with uh the dev diary stuff.

[00:39:20]>> We can here cuz I guarantee we have unique viewers on here that don't watch my channel. So yeah, we could do that.

[00:39:26]>> That's Yeah.

[00:39:28]>> Um so I'll get the images real quick.

[00:39:31]>> Yeah. Go let me get the all the photos for you guys.

[00:39:34]>> I'll let you I'll let you I'll let you prepare yourself >> first. Well, like for everyone who's watching, here's Anax.

[00:39:41]Yes, we have uh the Pre-Sord Kingdom Dev Diary came out and when I say it came out, it literally came out as we jumped into the VC together. We were all sitting here together and we're like, "Oh yeah, talking about what we were going to record and do." And uh then this dropped. So now the gang's all here. We got all four species of Allosaurus. Now we have >> of the Jurassic.

[00:40:10]Yes, the four horsemen of the Jurassic.

[00:40:13]Of course, the original Fragillis, Jim and Insai. We knew about these two. We had talked about these two a few weeks ago when they were revealed and they look amazing. Even still, this month we got the reveal of Europa and Anax. Uh Europeas, as Dino has brought up a handful of times, might be synonymous with Fragilus, but you know, nothing's really settled on that just yet. Um, and of course >> an axe, which is our uh resident soraod, or at least was. Um, previously known as Sora Faganax. And let me tell you, whoa.

[00:40:53]>> Look at an axe.

[00:40:55]>> It is chunky.

[00:40:57]>> So cool.

[00:40:59]>> Like we were mentioning before, way better than End of Oak Street.

[00:41:06]>> Yeah. Honestly, like looking at like I was saying like it's definitely the the chunky song from Madagascar >> like when you see walking towards you >> moto standing next to >> it just like look at the size of that guy next to a bronto. That's nuts.

[00:41:28]Imagine s like Allosaurus being that big an arc compared to the brontos.

[00:41:33]>> Yeah. Oh man, that'd be that'd be terrifying.

[00:41:39]>> Is it?

[00:41:40]>> And as well, this this species, they go on to say that this is aggressive.

[00:41:45]>> This is a solo creature. It's not going to be wanting to be housed alongside others unless it's breeding season, I'm guessing.

[00:41:54]>> Yep.

[00:41:55]>> So, and again, the frills look beautiful. The extra flare on them. It's It literally makes me think of Godzilla, >> the iguana. Godzilla.

[00:42:04]>> I Yeah, I love Europeas for its colors. It um uh but I I have noticed something while I'm sitting here looking at all four of them. Have we noticed that all of them are like have that little tint of green and then there's an axe who like just didn't get the memo? It's just like bro, >> I'm kind of >> I think it kind of helps like this is a really aggressive and these three are kind of almost sociable.

[00:42:32]>> Yeah. Again, I think that like a good comparison is like the difference between lions and tigers. It's like yeah, they're a part of the same genus, but they're a different species and you can tell.

[00:42:43]>> Mhm. And yeah, beautiful.

[00:42:45]>> It's got tiger stripes.

[00:42:46]>> Yeah, it does.

[00:42:48]Even though we have the the the Chad Allosaurus here, I think Gyson eye is still my favorite. Gyson eye will be the one I use the most. Yeah.

[00:42:59]>> The colors and looks of it are absolutely gorgeous. Tiger pattern and the the orange on the crest there.

[00:43:06]>> Yeah, I think I'm leaning towards Europe or Anax that I might be using a lot.

[00:43:12]>> I like Europe as well. Very lizard looking in my opinion.

[00:43:16]>> Yeah. or Fragillis. Fragillis is really nice.

[00:43:19]>> Or Jet tonight. Or >> they're all nice. They're all nice.

[00:43:23]>> Yeah, >> they're all amazing. This is Prehistoric Kingdom we're talking about. It's all good.

[00:43:28]>> Yeah, there's never a miss.

[00:43:30]>> It's hard to ever look at Prehistoric Kingdom and go, I don't like that design.

[00:43:34]>> Mhm.

[00:43:35]>> I I can't even think of a design I dislike in Prehistoric Kingdom. I I think there have been a few times where I've been like I I I don't like the look of that, but like but it would mostly be on like I don't know bald dinoy and um feathered pachy rhino. I do think feathered pachy rhino is cool though. Um but it's really cool when they they do weird stuff like that even still cuz it's like I mean it's a park builder.

[00:44:04]you can give like stories to your animals just like, "Oh, this guy has like the same kind of genetic defect that some birds do, so it doesn't produce plumage uh at the same rate as other birds or other dinoyuses." So, >> I still think my favorite thing was when they added the cave lions because there was something wrong with the eyes and they looked like they're always on edge having a nervous breakdown. Like it was just this continuous thousand yard stare when they were first like this.

[00:44:31]>> You know what? You know what? I get it.

[00:44:34]Me too.

[00:44:39]>> Seen humans. It's like, oh, not them again.

[00:44:45]Not again.

[00:44:48]Oh my.

[00:44:49]>> It's ingrained into their genetic memory. It's an instinct. It's like, oh, ape.

[00:44:55]>> The reason why when a human makes a noise, the forest goes quiet like Yeah.

[00:45:06]>> Yeah. And it's not even just the look of the game, which is beautiful. It's the actions they are putting in motion with the combat.

[00:45:14]>> Yes.

[00:45:15]>> And the leftover spoils of combat as well, which is going to be >> so much better.

[00:45:24]>> Yeah. Yeah, that that is another topic that we can bring up is that yeah, they did talk in depth about how the combat's going to work and it's great. You know, there's a lot of diversity to the combat. Animals are not going to fight just because uh they're pre-programmed to. There's like certain scenarios that will determine if an animal fights. Like it was mentioning that uh during mating season, some animals will be a little bit more aggressive and bully other animals than when outside of mating season. kind of like modern-day elephants who are in musk. Um >> yeah, >> and so that's going to be really cool to see. It also mentioned that like if animals are hungry enough, they can cannibalize one another. If they're hungry enough, they cannibalize their own babies. You know, that's there's a lot of layers to the Shrek Onion.

[00:46:12]>> I wonder I wonder if the male soropods will end up like killing each other just for the right to breed. That would be an interesting thing to see.

[00:46:21]>> Mhm. Like you just like your vet's like, "Oh, not again. We're going to have to bring this one to the vet because it broke its leg being pushed to the ground." Like that one scene in Walking Dinosaurs, was it 2025? Where you have that male just pushing down on the chest of the other one so it couldn't breathe.

[00:46:36]>> Yeah, >> that was brutal.

[00:46:39]>> Yeah.

[00:46:41]I wonder if you could get sora pods to knock each other down because they have like the new knockdown stance after like uh getting floored by a soraod or a stegosaur in one case. Um, so I wonder if like you could actually do like a fullon like fight between two male soraods like a prehistoric planet and like one of them knocks down gets knocked down but because they weigh so much they just the second they hit the ground they're just dead >> and their lungs collapse.

[00:47:14]>> Oh jeez.

[00:47:14]>> Something I'd love to see was like some species like that is the end result of the fight. It could be a buildup fight in the sense of okay, so they're going to like size check each other. It's like how giraffes do in sparring where they get side by side like am I are you worth a fight? Are you like you know am I going to fight you or is it going to end up in death? And then it's like that the little one's like yeah no you know I'm not going to do this and walks off. And then from that point if they do stay it's just head hitting like side neck and head hitting. And if that doesn't back off and then it comes to the pushing, the shoving, and then the unfortunate death, >> yeah, >> of the loser.

[00:47:54]>> If I were to, >> if I were to wager a guess, I'd say that Bronosaurus here is going to utilize its uh caratinous throat spikes in its combat.

[00:48:03]>> Yes, please. I've seen artwork of that where like you'll have two males and they'll their necks will be like all bloodied because they're like uh throwing the the caratinous spines into the neck of their opponent. Yeah, >> that would be >> so cool.

[00:48:19]>> It's going to end up like watching on going to the beach after it's been elephant season mating time.

[00:48:25]>> Yeah.

[00:48:26]>> Where like it's just all like these necks are all scarred up and bloodied from the combat.

[00:48:33]>> No. it. And as well, the I think one of the most fun things about this, like there was like slight arguments in the community if this game would ever be able to properly support an ecosystem building uh sim. And obviously people say, "No, this is a zoo builder." Well, it turns out that the the the cadaavvers of the animals that have fallen can be eaten from. So that's going to be fun because now we've already got herbivores being able to eat from the plants in sandbox mode. And now we are going to get carnivores being able to actually eat from their kills. So you can make an ecosystem. It it can work if you if you want to go down that route. I've already started building an ecosystem ready for this event. And yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

[00:49:18]>> That's going to be like the main thing I do. I guarantee it. I'm just going to sit there and watch.

[00:49:23]>> I'm going to I'm just going to say look at my creation. You know, >> let me guess the pair of you are going to make Hell's Creek.

[00:49:29]>> Yes.

[00:49:30]>> You've already got the Fortnite. Yeah, I've I've already made sure that >> I mean >> I've already made sure that a variant of T-Rex can't grow up past the nanotyrannus stage and we we'll have nanotyrannus running around it'll be beautiful. Really?

[00:49:44]>> Yeah, it's going to be awesome.

[00:49:45]>> Are they going to be able to reproduce?

[00:49:47]>> Probably not. But you you'll just have to say that nanotyrannis is rare. I guess >> man, I'll probably do creek as well.

[00:49:59]>> Heck yeah. Heck yeah. Chem Cam beds.

[00:50:03]>> I mean, there's not a lot of Chem Cam animals other than Carardonosaurus and Spinosaurus, but just pretend that Oronosaurus lived there.

[00:50:14]>> A few documentaries after all.

[00:50:16]>> I'll pull a planet dinosaur and I'll do that.

[00:50:19]>> Sasukas comes to the game.

[00:50:25]But no, this is going to be really good for as well if you're into making your own sort of documentary videos cuz you can you can act like pretty much documentary cameramen do or camera women because you have to sit there for ages hoping that they do something. And with all these natural abilities coming into here, uh, like the bullying, the mating season, the courtships, um, cannibalization of the the young and its own species depending on size, you can string up a story really well in this game if you get the shots.

[00:51:01]>> Yeah.

[00:51:01]>> Which is be really fun.

[00:51:03]>> Oh, yeah. It's gonna it's gonna be beautiful.

[00:51:06]>> Watch.

[00:51:08]>> Yeah. Um, uh, last little bit of, uh, paleo news, like actual like paleontology stuff.

[00:51:18]This, we technically could have talked about this last week, but I don't think, uh, we got around to it. Uh, there was officially a paper that came out that proved why so many large therapods have small arms, and it's the exact reason all of us have been saying for six years.

[00:51:37]It's but but it is it is important for this to be like published research instead of just like an excuse that we give. So it is important but a study did show that with Abellisa, Carerodonttoaurs and Tyrannosaurs um there is a very clear indication or a very clear pattern that as the animal used their heads and their jaws more that their forlims reduced. Uh, unless you are a megaaptor for some reason. Those guys are just >> build different.

[00:52:10]>> Well, >> I don't know. They're weird.

[00:52:11]>> They they to Megaaptor specifically seem to have prioritize their arms over their bite. Ostraaptor in particular had a surprisingly not Ostraaptor. Austral had a surprisingly weak bite force in comparison to its arms that actually had like a wide range of motion. So, they were going the opposite direction essentially. Yeah, megaraptoids, fun fact, are capable of semi-p pronating their wrist. Yes.

[00:52:38]>> So, their their arms and hands are very very uh uh heavily utilized in their lives based off of that.

[00:52:48]>> I I just wish we knew more cuz like we have barely any skull material from this entire family either.

[00:52:55]>> So, that that just kind of adds to the mystery. Wasn't found eating a crocodile or something or walking right there.

[00:53:05]>> Yeah. Tasty little swamp puppy snack.

[00:53:10]>> Yeah. My favorite.

[00:53:12]>> Yeah.

[00:53:13]My alligator hot dogs. I'm kind of hungry now, actually. I wonder if we have hot dogs downstairs.

[00:53:21]>> I got I got the beef variety of hot dogs.

[00:53:26]It's not good unless it's alligator. I'm sorry. That that that stuff basically comes pre-seasoned. It's sitting out like in the Everglades or in the bayou.

[00:53:33]That that pre-seasoned, man.

[00:53:36]>> We don't we don't have any alligators around us other than ones in zoos and I don't think it'd be happy if we ended up poaching them.

[00:53:44]>> The closest alligators to me are probably at the zoo.

[00:53:48]>> There's probably one outside right now where I am. Walk out front. There's an alligator out there. So I go to Dai Zoo and he's just like he's just slightly elongated his um neck column and he's like eating like a Spinosaurus like just just who's who's the person in your community Paleo who does the really cursed drawings of like finger dinosaurs?

[00:54:16]>> Swiggle. Hey, Swiggle, if you're listening to this right now, can you draw Dino Guy, but like >> as a Spinosaurus doing this, like stretch out his face and like give him a s I want to see this.

[00:54:31]>> He's going up the cowboy house as well.

[00:54:34]>> Yeah. Yeah. Put it on the If you do it as Mirabellis, you got to put it on the crest.

[00:54:39]Oh god, that'll be cursed.

[00:54:44]>> Yeah, it will be. And it's going to be great.

[00:54:48]banner picture right there.

[00:54:51]>> Yeah, there we go. I'll make it my profile picture for a week.

[00:55:00]>> Holy moly.

[00:55:03]>> Yeah.

[00:55:07]>> Yeah. Um there was there was that bipeedal crocodile that you mentioned uh earlier uh paleo. I'm trying to find it.

[00:55:18]>> Another one.

[00:55:20]>> A bip. Yeah. Bipedal. This one.

[00:55:24]>> We have a we have a few bipeedal pseudosukians.

[00:55:28]>> Just like >> Yeah. Yeah. Just Yeah. Just like every bird.

[00:55:33]>> I just need a bipedal everything. I need a bipedal turtle. I mean, >> I was found in New Mexico. New Mexico.

[00:55:41]>> Say Mexico. Yes.

[00:55:43]>> Did you say the witchcraft?

[00:55:44]>> Did you say Mexico or New Mex New Mexico? Okay.

[00:55:47]>> New Mexico.

[00:55:48]>> I was just there. Was it found near Albuquerque?

[00:55:52]>> It was found at um to Ghost Ranch.

[00:55:59]>> Oh, so Oh, that that makes the Ghost Ranch is where they found a ton of like cilopicis fossils. uh like all grouped up together. Yeah, that's a very famous fossil site.

[00:56:11]>> Is that the one family unit or if it was like they got drowned?

[00:56:17]>> I don't know if I don't know about a family unit, but it's thought that there was frequent droughts in the area. And typically what animals do when there's a drought is go to where the water usually is and then it flat the flash flooding happens and then it kills a lot of them at once, which is what is thought to have happened there.

[00:56:34]Perfect for fossilization.

[00:56:36]>> Yeah, pretty much.

[00:56:37]>> Looking for it to be >> uh it is named uh Labru Jasucus.

[00:56:47]That is a name. Labru Jasucus Expeditus.

[00:56:53]Here, I'm going to put this in the side chat.

[00:56:55]>> Oh, that's a nosy. Let's see.

[00:56:57]>> Good luck. Expectus. So, we expect it, huh?

[00:57:02]Labrajasukus expectatus. Why does it sound like a Harry Potter spell? Labrajasukus expects.

[00:57:13]>> There's my furniture floating.

[00:57:15]>> It turns them into a bipedal crocodile.

[00:57:19]>> Yeah.

[00:57:21]>> This what this what happens in in Harry Potter like all the time. If you just like shout uh an animal's full binomial name, it just turns them into it.

[00:57:33]>> Just the world of magic and phloenetics like converge on this.

[00:57:39]>> Yeah, >> it does sound like a spell though, doesn't it?

[00:57:43]>> Yeah, it does.

[00:57:45]>> So, what' you say to me?

[00:57:50]>> Yeah.

[00:57:54]Sucus >> expects >> expect that's a really nice word in it. Expect >> named this well.

[00:58:07]>> No. Um there there has been some talk recently uh with the people over there at the skeleton crew. They made another video talking about Carnotaurus and people have been discussing that.

[00:58:21]>> I haven't watched it yet. Yeah. I meant to have >> they were the first they were the ones who first brought up the idea that uh Carnotaurus was not as fast as we previously thought because I distinctly remember us talking about it on the podcast.

[00:58:33]>> Yeah, we did.

[00:58:35]>> Yeah, >> it's still my fast boy.

[00:58:39]>> I'll have to uh I'll have to give it a watch.

[00:58:43]Unfortunately, I haven't had time to to watch it just yet, but I've seen people's reactions to it. Um, there's a there's some people who are like agreeing, there's some people disagreeing, and then there's some people who are just being outright rude, which is just unproductive. Don't do that. This is this is a scientific discussion.

[00:59:02]>> Yeah. This is exactly how it works is that somebody proposes something and then we discuss it. We don't try to insult anybody or anything like that.

[00:59:09]That's ridiculous.

[00:59:10]>> Even if it's your favorite animal and it's getting nerfed, >> you still should have been like about it. like it's it's so new, it's exciting, it's ideas, and it you know, ideas and challenges are always something fun to talk and discuss about in a civil matter.

[00:59:28]>> Well, otherwise we'll never learn anything about these animals.

[00:59:31]>> Yeah.

[00:59:33]Um, also, wasn't there a new bird, not bird?

[00:59:36]>> Oh, an opposite bird.

[00:59:37]>> New opposite.

[00:59:38]>> Yes, it's the opposite bird. Yes, >> they are recently.

[00:59:43]>> They are still technically birds, but yeah. Um, >> but it's a it's an opposite from a >> they're just called opposite birds, but they are still birds. Um, >> yeah, there's a new one.

[00:59:51]>> There's a new one.

[00:59:52]>> How is I'm not I'm going to say something that I've been seeing in my comments a lot recently.

[00:59:57]>> How can it be new >> if it's prehistoric?

[01:00:05]>> No, don't worry. It may be a bit past its expiration date, but if it doesn't smell bad, it's still safe to eat.

[01:00:14]Those radioactive ones. Not us.

[01:00:21]>> They will not give you dinosaur superpowers.

[01:00:25]>> Oh my gosh.

[01:00:25]>> They will. They will. They absolutely will. Go out to New Nevada right now and start eating all of the radioactive glass.

[01:00:34]>> Health and safety aspect. Don't. Please don't do this.

[01:00:38]>> Yeah. Legal reasons. This is a joke.

[01:00:41]Yeah, >> I'm not usually the voice of reason within this podcast, but don't do that.

[01:00:46]>> Yeah, don't do that. It's not good.

[01:00:48]>> It will not become a super dinosaur.

[01:00:54]>> It has to bite you for that.

[01:00:57]>> Yeah. Yeah. Go ask um you know, Spider Rex. That's how he got his powers >> by a radioactive spider. Another T-Rex.

[01:01:07]To add to the conf I don't know if you've seen the meme from um oh what's that film called where it's with Jackie Jan and somebody else and it's like >> oh yeah >> I can't remember the name of the film >> who are you I am you >> yeah you rush out and I say yeah >> no I am you and you me I am me >> the worst one the worst one has to be Ty Tyrannosaurus Rex the beetle.

[01:01:42]>> That has to be the word.

[01:01:45]>> People keep coming into my chat while I'm streaming being like, "Can you tell us about it?" I'm like, "It's a beetle."

[01:01:55]>> What kind of beetle?

[01:01:57]>> Its Wikipedia page is four paragraphs.

[01:02:00]I'm pretty sure >> I actually in relating relating to that topic, I heard David Hone talk about like the description like of paleo or entomology or what whatever the study of insects how frustrating it is because nobody actually speculates about how they live their life when they describe new bugs. Instead, they just say, "Oh yeah, here's a beetle. It's about this big.

[01:02:21]>> That's it."

[01:02:21]>> What kind of beetle is it? It's a Oh, it's a scarab. It's a type of scarab.

[01:02:27]>> Yeah.

[01:02:28]>> That's cool. Scarves are cool. I like scarves.

[01:02:30]>> Yeah, that is unfortunate though cuz like I' I'd love to hear more about like the behaviors of the smaller uh animals at the time.

[01:02:38]>> Apparently that that little section of paleontology, they just don't really do much other than like basic descriptions of the fossil. Like they don't do much aside from that.

[01:02:49]>> If it's not a dinosaur, it's not interesting.

[01:02:53]>> Probably that's probably a big thing to that plays a factor. In fact, I I don't know if there's too many people who even specialize in that little aspect of paleontology.

[01:03:03]>> So, you got that. Imagine the people that find prehistoric bacterium.

[01:03:08]>> I I was going to to bring this up because I I had a friend that I talked to not too long ago. He was one of the people that I was with uh when I went to Hell Creek uh back in 2018. And he was talking to me cuz he's been back out there recently. And he's like, "Dude, there are so many plants and fungi out here that no one has labeled. No one's described them." And so this is this clearly shows there is in fact favoritism in paleontology. Like I know we we like with Paleo saying like, "Oh yeah, if it's not a dinosaur, it's not interesting." That is unfortunately how a lot of people think. So there is some favoritism in the world of paleontology.

[01:03:48]And that's really unfortunate because all of this stuff is important to understanding what the world was like back then.

[01:03:53]>> Mhm.

[01:03:54]>> The thing I don't often talk about is I really do love paleobottomy. Like seeing prehistoric plants is so cool. So seeing prehistoric kingdom do like proper paleotomy work was freaking amazing.

[01:04:06]Like only a few plants are ever spoken about. Like the most common thing is like you'll see someone like talk about horsetail plants like oh they used to be big as trees back then and that's as far as it freaking goes.

[01:04:20]>> Yeah it is.

[01:04:21]>> The whole the whole planet was covered by ferns. That's all you need to know.

[01:04:26]>> This is when trees finally evolved.

[01:04:29]Anyway >> yeah it's true though. That is very much true. Like especially with some of the big uh like some of the big journals and papers often times they won't even approve things that they know are not going to create a buzz. You know, they need the really big cool things like Tyosaurus Rex. Like that's a good thing that we could talk about. Um and so other things kind of just fall under the rug, so to speak.

[01:04:57]>> If Timmyy's found like a new 30 cm long predatory ant.

[01:05:01]>> Yeah. It's like, well, yeah, you good work, Timmy. Good work.

[01:05:09]>> What have you heard about this new Allosaurus?

[01:05:12]>> Yeah.

[01:05:14]>> Yeah.

[01:05:15]>> Like, the dinosaur stuff is cool. Don't get us wrong. Like, we're not going to complain about that, but it is it is unfortunate that like I don't know. It overshadows like a lot more. Like I I would love to learn about like the the lives of insects during like the Jurassic or Cretaceous. What kind of unique niches did they have? Because like yeah, we've got like similar insects around today, but like behavior is different between even like we were saying earlier with lions and tigers, you get all kinds of weird things even within one genus. So >> it's not only like the kind of likes of like dinosaurs in a sense. Like you think about it, if anything has a cool headline, it'll make the story. Like when someone finds a new plesiosaur or like recently in Australia, they found a juvenile of a species of plesiosaur that they never had the juvenile for. Um, it wouldn't it doesn't really make headlines unless it's got something like we found this giant head of a plyasaur that has a bor stronger than a T-Rex.

[01:06:18]That'll make headlines. Well, then if it's like this brand new discovery soon we don't have, it's like, >> yeah, >> yeah, it's cool.

[01:06:26]>> What what's so unfortunate about that too is that so many times when papers that do come through and like like they're talking about niche topics always relates back to T-Rex somehow.

[01:06:39]>> Yeah, >> that's mostly news articles fault, right? because it'll be like this small paper and like several news articles will be like check out this new dinosaur that's lived with T-Rex or this relative of T-Rex and it's like a carerodonttosaurid and it's like that's not even close where what >> or like a really good one that always stuck with me was when we found like five Triceratops together and saying oh Jurassic Park was right triceratops did move in herds I'm like excuse me but there was never a point in the Jurassic franchise where Triceratops was walking around in herds. You just put that in there.

[01:07:15]>> Was by itself sick cuz it makes them berries.

[01:07:19]>> His family members couldn't care. They left it alone to die at the bird next to a pile of its feal matter.

[01:07:29]>> Too big of a pile of >> canonically that that T-Rex apparently was killed by Rexie >> after the events of the movie and was eaten.

[01:07:37]>> Jeez. Well, it was weak and ill.

[01:07:39]>> Triceratops.

[01:07:40]>> Yeah, the one that was sick. That one was killed and eaten by Rex.

[01:07:43]>> But you said T-Rex.

[01:07:45]>> You said T-Rex instead of Triceratops.

[01:07:47]>> Did I really? Oh, okay. Well, I meant I meant Triceratops.

[01:07:50]>> Yeah.

[01:07:54]>> Yeah. They they they they uh are way too reliant on both T-Rex, sometimes Velociraptor, and Jurassic Park to try to push their stories.

[01:08:04]>> Yeah. And which that that confuses me so much as to why team Macenzis wasn't talked about more, >> right? Yeah, that was a weird one.

[01:08:13]>> I Yeah, like you >> honestly that that sound that's that should be something that would make like be as huge as Mirabilis, but it kind of it like sure we talked about it quite a bit for a day, but then it felt like everybody moved on after that fact. It was kind of interesting.

[01:08:30]>> Yeah. So, >> and it always gets wound up in T-Rex pictures. Exactly. T-Rex like >> One of the biggest problems though was probably because there's not a lot of like distinguishing traits that Mira or McCraans has had from Rex. Whereas Mirabilis, it's like, oh, I could tell when it's Mirabilis cuz look at that unicorn horn, you know? I I could tell.

[01:08:54]I think another one of my favorite things is whenever there's the swink about Velociraptor news or swing of a relative, it's always the Velociraptor from Jurassic Park in the picture.

[01:09:04]>> Yeah. Isn't it >> the thing that doesn't even represent Velociraptor at all?

[01:09:09]>> Doesn't it doesn't represent anything in that family really? It's like where's the rest of you referring to feathers?

[01:09:17]>> Yeah. And why is there so much of you at the same time being the height?

[01:09:26]I never seen so little but so more in my life.

[01:09:35]>> Well, yeah. Do we do we have anything else to to bring up closer here?

[01:09:42]>> I think that's everything major. I mean, like I could complain about how I I I'll very quickly say this cuz it's not paleo related, but it's in like pop culture and stuff. Why are people complaining about the next Minecraft update? You're getting wool, stairs, and slabs. You're getting a new autumn biome. And this is a sandbox game, and you're getting new stuff to make stuff with. That's the point of the game.

[01:10:07]>> Yeah, >> I don't care that I'm not getting like a new boss.

[01:10:12]>> Play the game.

[01:10:13]>> Every I I am completely in agreement with with you on that. Every time I see a new update, I'm like, "Oh, that's cool. I'm going to go and check out the comments, see what everybody else is saying." And it's always just anything but the end update. I'm like, "Guys, this is kind of cool."

[01:10:28]>> Um, did I hear wool stairs?

[01:10:30]>> Wool stairs.

[01:10:31]>> Wool stairs.

[01:10:32]>> Stairs made out of wool.

[01:10:33]>> Stairs made out of wool.

[01:10:34]>> Yes.

[01:10:36]>> Huh.

[01:10:37]>> In an autumn biome or the dappled forest.

[01:10:41]>> Yeah, I like I like that biome. I think it looks nice. I like the autumn feel.

[01:10:45]>> Some quite noisy Minecraft. I I I have the same issue with Path of Titans players because every single time they post a video >> the Microaptor >> Micro Yeah.

[01:11:01]>> Microaptor Allosaurus TLC.

[01:11:05]>> Yes. It's one of those and everyone's just complaining because it's like they're showing off mods that you can play with on the community servers. Like they are showing you new stuff that you can go and do while they develop that stuff. Like I'm I'm sorry if you're upset that they promote mods, you don't get how Path of Titans works on like a a kind of content basis because I I'll be honest, Path of Titans works as good as it does because of its community-made content.

[01:11:32]>> Yep. Keeps the game fresh.

[01:11:35]>> I'm just Yeah. Always.

[01:11:37]>> Mhm.

[01:11:38]>> That also looks nice.

[01:11:40]>> It does, doesn't it?

[01:11:41]>> It is really nice.

[01:11:42]>> Yeah.

[01:11:45]>> Yeah. Yeah, we'll have to play more of the dinosaur add-on when they when that update comes out.

[01:11:50]>> Yeah.

[01:11:50]>> Yes, please.

[01:11:53]>> Or we could try to get the uh Well, I think Weird Birds is out of date, but there is that Weird Birds Minecraft mod that we can try to find.

[01:12:00]>> Oh, yeah.

[01:12:00]>> That Yeah, that one's not on like mod or anything. So, that would have to be >> You'd have to download it the oldfashioned way.

[01:12:08]>> It's on Planet Minecraft.

[01:12:10]>> Yeah.

[01:12:14]Oh, that's old.

[01:12:17]>> I was kind of surprised that was still around.

[01:12:21]>> Yeah, I wish it was on Curse Forge or something. Um, okay. Do we have any other additional topics that we would like to bring up before we call it call it a quits?

[01:12:31]>> Rise is still a cool fish >> indeed.

[01:12:36]>> Yeah.

[01:12:36]>> Yeah. Dinosaur feet.

[01:12:39]>> Yes. Yeah. There it goes. Um um screw nuk or not nanotyran screw.

[01:12:50]>> Oh the truth comes out.

[01:12:55]>> All this all this Nanuka source love was a lie.

[01:13:00]>> He lost his tarasaur.

[01:13:03]>> Yeah. Wow.

[01:13:09]>> What a way to end.

[01:13:13]I'm tired. So is Paleo, but he he hasn't been given the opportunity to slip up like that yet.

[01:13:20]>> All right, we'll go ahead and call it quits with that. Thank you everybody for watching and listening. Um we actually had way more to talk about than I initially thought. So yeah, overall very successful. Um but yeah, everybody have a good one.