Peterson effectively uses elementary navigation to expose the intellectual bankruptcy of flat-earth theories, grounding abstract geometry in undeniable physical reality. It is a concise masterclass in scientific literacy that leaves no room for conspiratorial maneuvering.
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[music] [music] >> Exactly. So, I thank you so much little pee pee you for allowing me to be here and I just want to explain for me expand on your view on I guess what is what do you want to talk about creation of Earth or the moral compass of humanity is it necessary for societies to survive? Do we need a moral compass at all? Should we just get rid of all laws?
>> No.
>> Yeah, but we can't well all morality is subjective and we can't derive the true objective value of these morals, so they're pretty arbitrary, aren't you?
Don't you think so?
>> No.
>> Can you expand on that, please?
>> Uh a human being's capacity to suffer is not arbitrary and the uh any kind of social cohesion model that can be demonstrated to positively impact a group's survival and health and all that uh is not arbitrary.
>> What do you that's uh in my opinion that's literally the definition of arbitrary because every person has their own pain threshold, wouldn't you agree?
For example, women would argue their pain thresholds in certain scenarios are higher than others and wouldn't that be an arbitrary literal literally an arbitrary statement right there?
Depending on who's dealing with it.
>> Uh the idea that we don't know if people experience suffering or pain in exactly the same way uh does not mean that the fact that people do experience it is arbitrary.
>> What does that mean?
>> Okay. Well, we we've exhausted both of your brain cells, so.
>> No.
>> All right, perfect. I I Like I said, I don't have anything against science. I love it.
Um I believe that uh science works, so that's not my argument. So, uh I think we could just go to the facts on what we can observe and what we can't.
>> Can Can I Just because I know that this is where the divide is going to happen, just to avoid going in a circle, can you define what a fact is?
>> Well, a fact is just proof, 100% proof. It cannot be negated.
>> Yeah, that's not No.
>> It's a fact.
>> No.
>> Uh if somebody drowns and dies, it's a fact.
>> Uh >> They don't kind of drown, do they?
>> Is a prediction a fact, Joe?
>> Well, I can tell you that theory does not confirm randomness. I can tell you that much.
>> All right, I'm I'm not I'm not going to leave this any further. I'll let I'll let you have it. I'm sorry.
>> Yeah, anyways, so Joe, what do you want to talk about?
>> [clears throat] >> Well, I mean, like I said, here's the thing, guys. Um I'm not sitting here and saying that rockets don't work. I'm not sitting here and saying that planes don't work, right?
What I am trying to say is that when we develop technology, it is based off of trial and error first.
Once that is completed, then theory comes after that, right? That's when the mathematics come. You cannot produce technology without trial and error.
>> Great. That has nothing to do with >> Well, you're putting >> anything so far.
>> You're relying on theory to explain your reality, and you can't do that. You have to observe what you're seeing as a phenomenon first, and then you go from there.
>> These are These are predicated on entire fields of science and literally countless millions of individual lines of empirically confirmed evidence.
>> is the equivalent of a CPA not knowing the difference between gross and net.
Yes, you might be smart on numbers, but if you don't have a foundation of where you're starting at, you're going to be wrong. This is why >> What's the foundation?
>> The foundation is the zero point, which is absolutely nothing. That it's nothing, zero.
>> Okay, so you start with nothing. From nothing, nothing comes.
>> binary computers work, true or false, right? One and zero. So, if you look at our reality the same way >> A binary computer does not work from beginning from the standpoint of nothing.
>> There's only two There's only true and false on a computer, right?
>> Uh there's ones and zeros, so >> Yeah, they represent >> No, if you want to call it true and false, go ahead, but I could just call it one and zero. Neither of those is true nor false. But, also none of None of those None of those? What you just said has nothing to do with starting from the point of nothing.
>> theory starts from number one.
>> That's great. I literally don't care about any of this stuff you're talking about. If you have evidence for something, then go ahead and produce the evidence.
>> Basically, if you look at a globe, you will understand that the time zones don't work at a pole. Is that correct?
>> [snorts and laughter] >> At the poles.
>> Why would that be the case?
>> our time zones. Do they work at the poles?
>> Why wouldn't they?
>> They Oh, I'm asking you a question.
>> Okay, they absolutely work because it takes 24 hours for the Earth to encircle, so it doesn't matter where you are. You can divide You can divide wherever you're at into 24 slices or whatever.
>> You do know you just made a terminal error. You do know that, right?
>> Uh no.
>> Uh it You cannot make time zones work at the pole.
>> Okay, that has nothing to do with the shape of the Earth.
>> Oh, yes, it does because >> It has nothing to do with the shape of the earth.
>> If you can accept that time zones don't work, you're going to have to accept that longitude doesn't work, because they also work at straight lines.
>> Did you know that if you travel along the same line of longitude in the southern hemisphere, you get closer to somebody traveling at a different longitude in the southern hemisphere?
No, you're not trying to say anything, actually. Did you know that if you're in the southern hemisphere and you go south, you get closer to another person that's going south in the southern hemisphere on a different line of longitude?
So, whenever you're ready to answer that question, go ahead, and I'll just let you know that the answer is yes.
You're muted, Joe.
He takes a while to notice that.
>> Yeah.
Yeah. All I'm saying is this, guys, and I'll you know, you can you can let me get off the phone here, but you can't have two truths. Either something is true or something it isn't. So, if the time >> Yeah, the earth is not flat, yeah.
>> then a map won't be correct at the poles as well. Would you agree that a map doesn't work correctly at the poles if you were using it?
>> No, I don't agree with that.
>> [snorts] >> You don't agree that the the maps will not will work?
>> Yeah, so like Antarctic explorers traversed Antarctica using maps, so obviously your claim can't possibly be true, because it has successfully been done.
>> You're assuming that. But, bottom line, if you look at the way maps work on a globe, the way they triangle or the way they work on the poles, they all converge onto one point.
So, if that is happening, you cannot make an you cannot make an an accurate map. That means there is a >> That's interesting. Did you know that if two people in the southern hemisphere walk south, they get closer together?
>> Okay. But, that still is not explained with >> or no question. Did you know that if you're in the southern hemisphere and you walk south along a meridian, you get closer to another person walking south on a different meridian?
>> Okay. Well, I'm going to let you say yes or no.
>> That was a yes or no question, so go ahead and answer it.
>> I haven't observed that in reality.
>> I didn't ask you if you've observed it.
>> don't know the question to that, but I do know that the poles >> The answer is yes. The question isn't whether or not you've done it. The question is whether or not this [laughter] information is known. This is known information. You can take two cities in the world and see how far apart that are on the same line of latitude um and longitude or sorry, the same line of latitude, different lines of longitude. You can see how far apart they are. Then you can compare them to two places that are on the same meridian, but on a different line of latitude and you find that north, they're farther apart from each other.
That is globe confirmed and flat Earth debunked right there.
>> Do you agree that science is about accuracy?
>> No. So, answer the question.
>> No.
Really?
Science is not about accuracy.
>> Nope. Science is about all kinds of things. If it were only about accuracy >> that. I mean, you're being honest. I didn't expect that. Uh >> Yes, and you're being a little chicken [ __ ] So, >> Well, >> address the meridian thing.
>> Because theory is theory, so I will shake your hand on that.
>> Okay, we're going to have to So, you are currently getting dog walked. So, just so everybody knows, this is what's happening right now.
>> I I think we can shake hands on that.
>> No, I would never I would never touch you.
>> I'm just saying, if humans came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?
You can't have an atmosphere next to a vacuum. The Big Bang violates the second law of thermodynamics. Everything that's created requires a creator. Show me curvature. There are no missing links.
Evolution has never been observed. The earth is only 6,000 years old.
>> [music]
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