Saad’s reduction of complex geopolitical trauma to a simple game of winners and losers is a classic intellectual oversimplification. It offers a pragmatic path forward only by stripping history of its moral weight and the necessity of justice.
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Every single millimeter on Earth has at some point been owned by someone else.
Is that is that not true? I mean is is is the definition of history not the accounting ledgering of who owned what when? Yeah.
>> Now, in every other conflict that has ever existed throughout all of human history, there is a winner of that conflict and a loser, and people move on. Hi everyone, this is Sahar TV, and in today's video we'll see Gad Saad on the Joe Rogan show debating Israel-Palestine and doing it brilliantly well. Take a look. If October 7th hadn't happened, I I'm not I'm not being flippant, I'm not playing games. I'm really honestly asking you.
If October 7th had not happened, how many of the innocent Palestinians that tragically perished would have perished?
That's a good question. Probably it would have never happened. There probably would have been a bombing of Gaza.
You know, that we could get really dark here because there's a lot of people that believe that this it was allowed to happen so that they could have an excuse to attack Gaza. You know, I can make exactly the same claim with uh Pearl Harbor. You know, that happened during World War II. I can make exactly the same claim. Some people believed it was allowed to happen so the United States could test their nuclear their new nuclear bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki or 9/11. Like it's all just conspiracy.
Stop pushing conspiracies.
>> But that goes to our earlier point of view.
>> And it gets it gets goofy and I'm not the person to comment on that cuz I don't really know, but there was stand-down orders. We know that. We know that some of at least some of the army was told to stand down.
>> Well, I actually had the former director of the Mossad on my show. Mhm. And his name is Yossi Cohen. And I was like, Yossi, what the F? How how does Right, how did it happen? And the best of my understanding in terms of what I've told, is that you know, happens and someone falls asleep, metaphorically speaking, right?
And so, it was a gigantic But anyways, we If if you not you, but if someone is of the conspiratorial mind mindset, there's nothing that I could share. But speaking literally to the former Mossad the former director of Mossad, he said it was a catastrophic you know, failure of where everybody's kind of asleep. But my point is this.
Right, but let me stop you there because if I was the former head of Mossad, the last thing I would tell you is that well, we allowed it to happen because we've been wanting to blow up Gaza for a long time and take it over and turn it into a big resort. You would never say that, right? And we also know that on record Netanyahu has said that they fund Hamas so they can control the size of the flame because they don't want the democratic democratically elect Netanyahu never funded Hamas, ever.
Never funded Hamas. They facilitated funds from Qatar to Gaza that by the way are meant for humanitarian purposes, but it was abused by Hamas to build tunnels.
We have the Western mindset. We thought that if we give them money, it's going to make them less violent. But we always forget their Islamist mentality, always.
the people to take over and turn Palestine into a state. So, you don't you don't think there's something Yeah.
Well, uh Israel left if if I'm getting my history right, they left Gaza in 2005, right? Is that is that the right number?
Do I am I getting that right? So, from 2005 till 2023 or maybe 2007. So, someone will correct me in the comments section.
For many, many years Israel left and there was no problem in the region, right?
Is that true? I don't know. You would know better than me. Well, there was no problem. I mean, there Okay.
Then there was a catalyst, an event happened. Now, we can debate whether it was proportionate, whether it could have been, you know, adjudicated differently. We can discuss all that.
And all that you can discuss it without ever worrying about being called anti-Semitic. It's totally within the fair bounds of having those conversations.
>> Right.
But what is true is that if Israel wanted to eradicate Palestinians, it would take them a lot less time than when you and I have been talking on the show, by orders of magnitude. It would take 15 seconds, but they didn't do that, right? They don't do that. As a matter of fact, John >> Yeah, but they kind of have in Gaza.
Gaza is done. There's almost nothing left of it.
>> So, the numbers that I'm hearing >> videos of it, right? You've seen what it looks like when they fly overhead. We we could Guys, an even better question would be why would we leave in 2005?
Right? If we had this grand scheme of trying to build a resort in Gaza. Why would we leave? I mean, we were already inside Gaza. We had a military occupation inside Gaza. Why would we leave? That's why I freaking hate conspiracy theories, because you can't argue with them. He's like, "It kind of seems that way." Joe, give us a break.
Give us a break. What are you talking about? I've seen some videos.
>> Sure. So, okay, let me >> recent videos, they show the drone videos of flying over Gaza. It looks like a nuclear bomb hit it. It just They did it slowly. They did it over years.
Just consistent, constant bombing, and there's almost nothing left of it.
Right. And there's also been this crazy talk of putting resorts there. You know, and Trump said Yeah, he was saying that we're going to turn it into the What did he say? Something of the some you know, Like Like Monte Carlo or Monaco.
>> crazy.
>> Right. Uh again, it's totally fair to discuss what constitutes proportional thing and so on.
But I take a broader view, which is Israel exists, and you have two choices.
You can keep creating generations of your people whose whose entire daily animation of terms of their objectives is to eradicate that place, or you could recognize that every single millimeter on Earth has at some point been owned by someone else. Is that Is that not true?
I mean, is Is Is the definition of history not the accounting ledgering of who owned what when? Yeah.
>> Now, in every other conflict that has ever existed throughout all of human history, there is a winner of that conflict and a loser, and people move on. [snorts] Okay? Just Just hear me out. Okay. I lived in Lebanon. I grew up in Lebanon.
We had to leave under imminent threat of execution. It's very unfortunate. We lost everything. We moved on. We made a life for ourselves. Our home was stolen by Palestinian people. I never held any animus towards Palestinians. I moved on with my life. One day, I was interesting enough to have the privilege of appearing on Joe Rogan's show. My daily animation is not to go and kill people for things that were done to us. And very few people have had things happen to them as what happened to us, right?
Jews were exterminated in the Holocaust.
It didn't create an endless litany of Jewish terrorists throughout the world trying to get back. So, in every part of the world, we are now in Texas. That land was owned by someone else before the United States came along. We are sitting quote on stolen land. In Canada, we are sitting on stolen land. It's called history. Most people are able to move on and say, "Hey, the dice went this way or that way. Let's hold hands and let's build a better future." You can't do that if canonically the Jewish state should not exist.
Right? Doesn't Hamas say in their charter "Every Jew that is anywhere we will find him and get him." So, did that make sense that they would be the leaders of that region? Wouldn't it have been much better for them to train their kids to becoming neuroscientists and podcasters and classicists and physicians? But, that's not what they chose to do repeatedly for nearly 80 years. The minute that that clicks and they say, "You know what? You have this part, we have this part. Let's shake hand and let's be one family." The problem will go away. So, I agree with you. The images are very jarring. That pretty much sums it up. When the whole world goes through atrocities or different situations, whatever, they move on. The Jews moved on, the Native Americans moved on, people move on. I don't see anybody holding protests for the 300,000 Muslims that were expelled from Bulgaria to Turkey. But, only the made up Palestinians are victimizing themselves and crying about the lands that were stolen to them and are getting so much attention because of the Muslim people spreading this information wider and wider on social media, on YouTube, and different platforms. This is absurd.
Improve your lives. Work on your children's lives. Work on their demeanor. Work on their education instead of focusing on hating the Zionist and hating the Jews. Move the F on. That is the only solution. But, once again, this has nothing to do with stealing land. This is to do with the fact that the Jews, you know, the oldest monotheistic religion in the eyes of the Muslims are taking Al-Aqsa and taking the land of the Ummah, right? It has to do with Islam. Nothing about stolen homes, nothing about the Nakba, it's all religious. Beautiful explanation by God Tsar. Thank you so much for watching this video. I will see you in the next one. Bye-bye. If you'd like to watch more of my stuff, please check out my channel down below. If you like what you see, don't forget to subscribe to the YouTube channel and hit that notification button so you can be notified every time I upload new content. If you'd like to support me and the channel financially, you can do that using buy me coffee or Patreon down in the links below. Also, we now have a Discord that you can join down in the link below. And now you can become a YouTube member and enjoy specific YouTube perks. Thank you for watching.
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