Episode 28! Largest 3D Universe Map, Dark Energy, AI and Humanity

Added: 2026-05-15

[00:00:05]You know what my favorite part of this industry is? Is that I never read a single thing about the 3D map of the universe. Did not read a single thing about it. Didn't see it on traditional news or media. It was just all over my feed and it was all you guys. And I was like, "Oh, okay. This is all the information that I need." So now I have the full story between all the STEM creators. I'm like, "Okay." Okay. And you never needed to read an actual publication because we covered all the details.

[00:00:30]>> Yeah.

[00:00:31]>> Actually, I think that's probably one of the coolest parts about what we do is the fact that if you if you follow enough of us, you really will get like all the info you're going to need cuz we have our ear to the ground. So, it's like we're following it really closely.

[00:00:43]>> Exactly.

[00:00:43]>> So, I can't tell you how many times I've made a video and people are like, I didn't know anything about this. And I'm like, that's kind of the point.

[00:00:48]>> That's kind of the point. That's what we're here for. I know. I've had people ask me like, "How do you find your space news?" And I'm like, I literally Google astronomy news.

[00:00:57]>> I've not been I don't get told anything that isn't already out there most of the time. It's rare, but sometimes, yeah, then like a company will reach out or something, but otherwise we're all just googling the [ __ ] >> Do you follow anything like any like major news? Well, not major news, but like magazines.

[00:01:11]>> No, not like not not something where I've like signed up for a newsletter cuz like I'm on there almost daily googling [ __ ] anyway that uh Okay. You know what I mean? So, I'm like looking for it on my own regardless. But no, I just >> Oh, >> not trying to get more emails into the into the >> No, not emails. I have um just the tabs of the pages sage. I do I'm not even joking. It's so many. I do Popular Science. I do Interesting Engineering, Live Science, um Popular Mechanics, Scientific American, New Scientist, and then there's one more I can't remember. And I look at every single one every single day.

[00:01:46]>> And you know what's amazing to me? There are slow days.

[00:01:49]>> Yeah. Yeah, there really are. It's like that meme where apparently in the early 1900s there was no news. So on the radio they were like no news today and they just played music.

[00:01:57]>> Yeah.

[00:01:57]>> And I'm like why can't we never have that? But um >> I know sometimes it's slow in the space world. Um which is crazy cuz then once in a while you get a huge story like this or because we apart from Artemis like we haven't had >> a big thing like I remember in 2022 with Perseverance was it 2022? 21 maybe when Perseverance was heading to Mars or it got there or JWST opening up. So like those are big singular stories.

[00:02:22]>> Yeah.

[00:02:23]>> And then like apart from Artemis, it just we haven't had a big one in a while. But the 3D map of the universe is pretty big. Not as big as those because it's not space exploration, but it's still phenomenal.

[00:02:32]>> Who got it? Who got that? Or who put it together?

[00:02:35]>> Uh the it's it's an acronym that stands for >> I hate the acronym. Like what are we the military?

[00:02:42]>> Dude, I lost it.

[00:02:42]>> Why do you have so many >> dark energy spectroscopic instrument?

[00:02:46]It's DESI.

[00:02:47]>> DESI. And it's uh on the it's an instrument at Kit Peak. So it sits on top of like a telescope or something.

[00:02:56]>> Oh.

[00:02:56]>> On that observatory, >> which I think is in the Southern Hemisphere. See, these are the details I left out in my video cuz I'm like, no one [ __ ] about that.

[00:03:04]>> I asked the questions that nobody gives a [ __ ] about.

[00:03:06]>> No, but like if I was doing long form, 100% I would cover. So, but I remember it being like 5,000 little spectroscopic eyes that are constantly scanning the sky. So essentially what this instrument does is that it captures a large or like a chunk of the sky and it did this for how many years? I need to watch my own video.

[00:03:26]>> I know. Me too. In one year after the other, I'm like and it's and when people ask me about videos from a year ago, I'm like, yo, I have no idea what I said.

[00:03:36]>> But uh Okay, I'll get to the parts that I do know. About 42 million galaxies and stars were cataloged in this largest 3D most detailed map of the universe we have ever made.

[00:03:47]11 billion years in this imagery and stuff like that. But it's because there's so much goddamn detail. Uh and some of these are galaxy clusters. So it looks like fuzz, but that's actually just a clustering of so many galaxies put together. 42 million. Yes. And it did this over 5 years. That was the plan. It actually exceeded what it wanted to do. I think initially it was going to do maybe 30 something million galaxies, but it did 42 or 47.

[00:04:17]>> Typical space study, it's always more than like they're like, "We're going to send a probe out. It'll only last 5 minutes and like 30 years later, it's still going back signals."

[00:04:26]>> You lowkey planned that.

[00:04:28]>> I know. Totally right. I think you have to undershoot your cell and then you come back, you look like a hero, but it's going to actually, I guess, get a bit more since it was ahead of schedule.

[00:04:38]And what you have to do is analyze it over time. So although it did 5 years worth of work, they're only at like analyzing a couple of years of the data that's come through.

[00:04:46]>> So it's going to get bigger or the image >> I think the image will get bigger in some capacity, but it's also that they're going to understand more of what this map is showing us. So the point is because the uh it's a for dark energy spectroscopic instrument, the point of mapping the universe is to understand how dark energy has affected the large scale of everything over time. And what they've the surprising conclusion so far again only based on a couple of years of data from this map is that dark energy has seemed to evolve more it seemed to evolve over time as in it hasn't been constant which is what has been speculated. So like in the parameters of our universe there's a constant in the equation and that's supposed to be the dark energy part of it >> like its expansion rate.

[00:05:29]>> Yeah. Exactly. And that's been debated for a long time but it's still something that's calculable >> calculable. calculatable, whatever the [ __ ] >> Calculable.

[00:05:38]>> Yeah, just weird.

[00:05:38]>> You were right the first time and now I'm going to ruin it.

[00:05:40]>> No, that's the thing. It like felt weird coming out. But um the fact that it evolved over time being that it's not a constant and so how has it changed the evolution of our universe? More data as I mean as they analyze more data, we'll get better answers to it. But it's pretty nuts though.

[00:05:53]>> I wonder if it's affected by mass and that changes its rate.

[00:05:57]>> I have no idea. Nobody knows >> if it's like one of those Well, there can't be more mass. I don't know. It's really interesting. Or maybe how the mass is spread out affects how dark energy moves. Maybe as it's spreading out, it can move faster. Like wouldn't it be interesting if it was directly tied to how much mass it's dealing with in a given area? That would be really cool.

[00:06:14]>> It would be cool. I'm literally scratching my head because nobody has the >> Nobody knows. I mean, yeah, we're just >> And but that's what's fun though, like you can kind of speculate as to what it could be because, okay, dark energy makes up 68% of everything that constitutes the universe.

[00:06:28]>> I will definitely put that my favorite pie chart up. I love that pie chart.

[00:06:31]>> It's so good. So 68% is that dark matter is 27%. Did this should fall or did I have it this low the whole time? Maybe I'll lift it up.

[00:06:38]>> I know I had adjusted mine and I was like >> knowing me and my voice not caring and then okay so again dark energy 68% of the entire universe dark matter 27ish regular matter 5% >> I know that five >> is so which is this everything we see is regular matter. So there's 85% of all matter is dark matter where we're talking about the whole universe that dark energy is 68%. And this is something as scientists say they don't know what it is.

[00:07:09]>> They just know it's causing the accelerated expansion of space.

[00:07:11]>> I only learned about all that when I was an adult.

[00:07:14]>> So I'm like super jealous of like teenagers who are just they learn about it in high school.

[00:07:17]>> Yeah. Like >> I don't think that was taught in the '9s >> or the early 2000s. I don't think we even like brushed on it because I was in college and they never mentioned it, >> right?

[00:07:28]>> So, it's kind of interesting that it it neics course that I took mentioned it really. I don't know. I think maybe just I think like around 2010 is when they started to push it >> probably harder in the education unless you go for astrophysics which I did not.

[00:07:41]>> Yeah, that's a thing.

[00:07:41]>> Maybe that's it. But now classes will tell you about it. But yeah.

[00:07:44]>> Yeah. I just feel like we all talk about it a lot now. But it does telling you I never remember hearing about it in like the '9s or the >> early 2000s. Although it was in the '9s, I remember uh cuz it's all in my my book.

[00:07:59]>> That's definitely >> definitely not photoshopped in cuz I didn't forget it.

[00:08:03]>> Or what's it called when it's a video?

[00:08:04]Not Photoshop.

[00:08:06]>> Oh, I don't know. It's just overlaid.

[00:08:08]>> Is it to her? Yeah. Damn. I thought there was a >> That's the real book, guys.

[00:08:12]>> Yeah.

[00:08:12]>> It's like moving around like floating.

[00:08:14]>> It should just come into the camera. But it was in the '9s that they at least in some capacity understood it better. like it's the expansion rate itself. I remember that being figured out I think sometime in the 90s which also is a parameter because it changes over time as more information comes in and now they're saying that they think dark energy has evolved over time so that's going to throw another wrench into it.

[00:08:36]Anyway, this largest 3D map of the universe is spectacular. It's like you can keep zooming in and then it becomes just dots and every dot is a galaxy.

[00:08:45]>> You know what they should do is 3D print that to be the size of a building. lay it down and for each galaxy have a little bump so you can run your hands over it cuz that would be I don't know.

[00:08:54]I think there's something different about like a sensory interaction that's like physical. I don't know. I think maybe it'll hit people a little bit harder if they run their hand over it and it's like every time you run your hand over it's a galaxy roughly the size of ours >> with as much going on.

[00:09:08]>> I think that would really hit people but they should definitely >> print that in some way and make it in the real world >> so people can like >> really take it in. That would be exhibit to have. But um Noir Lab, which is such a great website if you just >> N O N O R L.

[00:09:25]>> This is for me later to like add in whatever the com is. No one else is called Noir Lab. You'll be able to find it. But they have insane graphics. Like that's where I got all of mine for my short form video. I love when the when the science institute themselves provide the graphics for us. I'm like, thank you Lord.

[00:09:39]>> So hard to find. Yeah, some of them is some of them are as in like you can they're all I mean there's pictures there's videos but the one where you can like just keep zooming until you get to it dots which is super cool.

[00:09:50]>> Okay.

[00:09:50]>> Yeah, >> cuz I like I saw somebody zoom in on it but it was so quick cuz they were just explaining it >> that I was like oh I need to do this at some point but then I forgot and everybody talked about it so much I was like I have nothing to >> Yeah. No, that's right. Like what are you going to say?

[00:10:02]>> I have nothing to say. And like honestly most of the stuff that I follow is like engineering stuff anyway and so it was like it wasn't on any of the websites that I go to. I was like, "Oh, visually it's amazing." But I found it cool, too.

[00:10:11]Like, some people who don't do STEM content creation at all talked to me just because of how mind-blowing it is.

[00:10:16]Like 40 something million galaxies expanding to 11 billion years in time.

[00:10:20]And then like it looks like two cones because obviously there's only so much of the sky. This thing can map usually, but then like you have to think like Earth is at the center of that. Not that we're at the center of the universe.

[00:10:30]We're just at the center.

[00:10:30]>> Oh, Earth's at the center of that image.

[00:10:32]>> Yeah. Of the two. Yeah.

[00:10:34]>> Because that's where the observations are. Okay. Got it.

[00:10:36]>> Yeah. So like in that way it's visually cool too because it's like holy [ __ ] going out from us in these two directions. It's just it's just parts of the universe.

[00:10:44]>> Okay. So it is actually >> okay. It not geographically laid out. I don't know what the term spatially laid out. So like the farther out the image is the farther the farther we exactly.

[00:10:55]And then that would allow I guess scientists too to just understand like oh we're going out in this direction. It literally is going back in distance and time.

[00:11:03]>> And um >> that's crazy. The map that they have so far is less than a third of the entire night sky. As in like just our night sky.

[00:11:11]>> Yeah. Just of the night sky from our perspective. So if they're able to get more, it'll just fill in a bit more pieces. But it's amazing.

[00:11:18]>> Sometimes I look at it, I'm like, "No."

[00:11:19]>> Yeah.

[00:11:20]>> I don't know what no means, but just >> just know >> no. I've refused to let my mind explode right now. But honestly, yeah, I've like there's so much video about there out there already about it and we summed it up for you. But the most amazing thing is like you just go and explore these images on your own. I have nothing more to say. It's not much more complicated than what >> I love that inter NASA has great interactive stuff, too. And it's really cool to like be able to move it around and you know like the orbits of planets and asteroids and you can get like a better gauge of >> where everything is. I don't know. I just I just think that's so >> Oh my god, it's amazing. Whenever I've explored like various exoplanets through the NASA website and you can like you can change the orientation. You can zoom into the planet or out, see its distance from its star, get all the stats about it, see where it is relative to the sun.

[00:12:02]>> It makes it so real.

[00:12:03]>> Yeah. In the '9s, um I mean, we really had like no information to go on. It was just like pieces of paper >> and and we didn't really have much >> I don't know in the way of like I mean, sure, we had Hubble, but wasn't like a whole lot going on.

[00:12:17]>> Yeah.

[00:12:18]>> Back then compared to now. I mean, now we have so much stuff and it's like I'm kind of jealous of all the younger people who we just take it for granted and like Yeah. Like I didn't even know I had never even heard of dark matter or dark energy until I was like well until adulthood actually. I remember the first time I heard about dark matter because it was like a math problem and I remember being like I think I was in grad school at that point. I'm like what is this? Like what are we even talking about? And uh yeah, it was studying the rotation of a galaxy. And you know, I mean, that's like super basic math that like we wouldn't even you don't even do in grad school for mathematics cuz it's not anything.

[00:12:51]>> And um cuz they were like assuming the rate, it was one of those physics questions where they just assume like assume no friction or assume assume no air resistance. And I was like what the [ __ ] is dark matter? And then I saw like, oh, the rotation of a galaxy makes no sense unless something really heavy is in there. And for all of our calculations of how much mass we can see in the 5% of the visible universe, it's not checking. No, it's not.

[00:13:16]>> So there's something invisible, which is terrifying because I like to think like, is stuff moving through us?

[00:13:22]>> Probably.

[00:13:22]>> Nutrinos are at any given second.

[00:13:24]There's like millions.

[00:13:25]>> What if like dark energy is a thing that's like moving through you?

[00:13:28]>> A darkness that's moving through. I want to start a subreddit that says dark energy causes cancer and just people are going to like buy into >> makes up most of the universe. So it's something we'll never be able to like get rid of or cure cuz it's most of space.

[00:13:41]>> It's just it's like so cool to think about and I love thinking about it as like what if it's just >> a dimensional thing and it's not like a 3D thing and it's like and that's why we can't see it because I don't know who.

[00:13:53]No, but but nobody knows. But I've thought of I've I'm probably because I've read it elsewhere like the speculation of these things that are dark like dark matter, dark energy. Is it just [ __ ] from another dimension or even a parallel universe that is having an effect on ours, >> right? What if it's super bright?

[00:14:10]>> I know. Dark matter and it's like actually bright.

[00:14:12]>> Actually bright as [ __ ] >> Like to our eyes even and like >> bright matter.

[00:14:17]>> Like we open a wormhole and somehow we confirm it's in there and that's like >> that'd be kind of cool. That'd be cool.

[00:14:23]>> I would enjoy that.

[00:14:23]>> Oo, bright matter. That's a fun little sci-fi topic.

[00:14:27]>> You have the worst names for stuff.

[00:14:29]>> Come at >> I hate it. Dark matter. Dark hole.

[00:14:32]>> I know. Dark hole. Black hole.

[00:14:33]>> Dark hole.

[00:14:35]>> That's something else, kids. That's the nighttime show.

[00:14:37]>> Dark hole. Brown holes. No. Somebody made that joke on one of my posts cuz I I talked about like hypothetical white holes if they could exist. Oh, yeah. And someone was like, "Then what about brown holes?" And I'm like, "You know what? I love the immaturity in my audience sometimes. I I like set myself up for that kind of [ __ ] because I have the same sense of humor. I can never get through like a Uranus post without making a joke out of it.

[00:15:01]>> Oh, I know. I still don't understand why we pronounce it like that.

[00:15:04]>> Yeah.

[00:15:05]>> It's still weird to me because it's only because like I know that we don't pronounce everything the way we're supposed to, but like the word déja vu is a really good example. Deja vu. So, it's like we don't say déja vu. Yeah.

[00:15:14]>> Right. We are pronouncing it the way the French pronounce it. So like Uranus, which I think Uranus or I think it's Uranous or something like that.

[00:15:22]>> Yeah, that's kind of how that's how I was told is technically true.

[00:15:25]>> And it's like why don't we just pronounce it like that?

[00:15:27]>> Why don't we just call it George? Did you know initially it was going to be named George after >> I would prefer that at this point. I would prefer that at this point because whenever you're discovery it's like new probe found for Uranus and I'm like you mean Urine. I just I can't stop myself.

[00:15:39]>> No, it's amazing. I love it. I I I like that there's immaturity in science and we can all kind of laugh at dumb [ __ ] like that. Yeah, >> it's just it's great. But it was going to be named George initially. William Hershel was going to name a George after King George III.

[00:15:53]>> One of the Georgees. I think it's the >> Okay. I don't know any of them to be honest.

[00:15:58]>> I don't remember. I just know it was after a King George and it was William Hershel.

[00:16:02]>> I don't care about the >> in the 1700s.

[00:16:04]>> You know what's weird though? Actually, a little guilty pleasure of mine. I follow this one girl who comments on like her whole page is just about the British royal family, but she's an American.

[00:16:14]>> I don't know. She's just like weirdly obsessed with it for some reason.

[00:16:16]>> People are I don't know.

[00:16:17]>> Yeah. And I'm like but because of this is this shows you why communication is so important because I could not give a [ __ ] >> about that family. Not because they're rich or anything like that but because like why do we still have monarchies in the western world in the 21st century? I think it's really weird. Um they don't really do anything.

[00:16:38]>> Yeah. Exactly. They're just kind of figurehead.

[00:16:40]>> They're a figurehead which is fine but is the figurehead worth billions of dollars? probably not. So, for me, it's like you can keep the royal family, but is it worth as how much you pay? I don't know, whatever. Um, but this girl who talks about it, she's so captivating in the way she speaks. She's so good with imagery. She's really good at editing.

[00:16:56]It's just the video flows and you kind of just get sucked into it because of the way she's talking. And it goes to show you that if anyone's a good talker, you could get sucked into anything.

[00:17:05]>> Cuz now I follow this [ __ ] channel about the British project. I don't give a [ __ ] about >> I don't give a [ __ ] But I hear her voice and I'm like locked in.

[00:17:13]>> Interesting.

[00:17:14]>> Like the other one that's like that is the Spalbar woman with her dog in and um up in Norway. I think Norway has that territory, that island that has the seeds, you know, like the final seeds of humanity. Um she's like that, too. I hear her voice and I immediately know it's her. And like I don't give a [ __ ] about >> like some island in the middle of nowhere, you know? But she's just so good at like making interesting stories and like showing you her dog and like it's a weird life. She's like, "Let's bring our gun to get, you know, because of polar bears." And you're like, "Whoa, wait, what?" She breezes over it and you're like, "This is kind of fun." And it just goes to show you, I mean, that's why like >> storytelling is a skill.

[00:17:50]>> Yeah. And it's like I think we had talked about this a few weeks ago, like somebody that I really looked up to who does still look up to who does this job and he was like, I don't know how to tell other people how I do what I do.

[00:18:01]>> Like we haven't really locked in yet the code of communication in this particular genre, like short form.

[00:18:07]>> Sure. which I think is really interesting because like I have to figure it out at some point.

[00:18:11]>> I just I don't I don't know. I don't know if there ever if that'll ever happen because there's so many variables to it.

[00:18:16]>> I know science communication specific like complex data that's normally really hard to digest like how what is the formula that we're all using and we don't even realize that we're all doing it.

[00:18:26]>> You know, it'll be really interesting because I know the opposite side of it.

[00:18:29]Like when I was in school, we learned about I'm not even joking 25 different biases.

[00:18:33]>> There's more than that, I bet. But we learned about 25 and a lot of them are intellectually based. Sure.

[00:18:37]>> Like you learn this thing and you'll never be able to relate to somebody who doesn't know it.

[00:18:42]>> And I I think that's just intellectual bias, but there's a lot of different kinds. So we know the ne negative part.

[00:18:47]What's the positive part? What's the thing we all share in common when we do understand something and we can communicate it well and like what is that code? And >> I don't know. But >> moral of the story, I follow this British thing and I follow random islands in Norway >> because of the story.

[00:18:59]>> Because of the storytelling capability.

[00:19:01]>> I mean, how you feel about the royal family is how I feel about the Kardashians. I don't give a [ __ ] about them. I hate humanity for making them famous. Which, fun side story, uh I was like months ago, sometime last year, some last fall, at this big producers house for this like g get together for like writers and creators in town and who work in Hollywood. And then they had these speakers. They were clinical psychologists who specifically study social media's effects on adolescence.

[00:19:27]And uh >> I got like really annoyed because >> the obviously they're telling everyone the detriment of the effects that they've discovered especially on adolescent girls like it's had pretty much like a negative impact uh on their mental health.

[00:19:42]>> And so when it came to time to like asking these people questions and stuff I was like so here's my question. Not less of a question more of a little bit of a rant. I'm like you're literally speaking to a room full of people who have shaped Hollywood which shapes >> what people get influenced by in this country.

[00:19:58]I guarantee you making these very people are worried about the effects that this [ __ ] is having on their kids when they were single-handedly a part of the industry that kind of [ __ ] it all over. I was just so annoyed.

[00:20:13]>> Did they say anything?

[00:20:14]>> No. I mean, uh, I think the lady, one of the speakers, uh, God, cuz I didn't really even ask a question. I kind of justed.

[00:20:22]>> Yeah, because I was just like annoyed.

[00:20:23]Like don't sit here and complain about the effects that this [ __ ] has had on your kids now when you're part of the industry that made a family like that famous and perpetuates that kind of [ __ ] >> They didn't talk about any positives cuz that's weird. It's weird whenever you pre >> that makes no sense. Whenever you present a case for anything you have to present both sides or you just look like a [ __ ] >> I Yeah, it seemed like >> that's weird.

[00:20:45]>> It was mostly negative. I can't really remember anything positive they said.

[00:20:48]Mine is like Yeah, honestly I can't. It was a very negative time. Okay, you can have a negative angle, but you still like even when I talk about cool discoveries, I always, not always, 90% of the time I add like here's some hard parts about this. Here's why this may not happen. Here's why it might be bad.

[00:21:03]Always put that and then I cover it back up again with the positives depending on my angle. So, it's just like weird that they'd be like, >> no, it was it was just based on the studies they do. Some of them even like go around to high schools and stuff speaking about the effects that this [ __ ] kind of has on their brain.

[00:21:17]>> I do like the idea of keeping teenagers off the of not the internet, off of social media. I do.

[00:21:22]>> It was targeted age like that.

[00:21:24]>> Okay, I'm okay with that. But like you still have to give positive because everything in moderation.

[00:21:29]>> Sure.

[00:21:29]>> You know what I mean? I mean, we had some version of that when we were growing up and mo I can't talk for everybody, but a lot of YouTube back then was just like basic entertainment.

[00:21:37]>> Sure.

[00:21:38]>> It wasn't bad. I wouldn't say it was like you're fat. It was just like people doing skits.

[00:21:42]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:21:43]>> You know what I mean? It's like >> I wonder too though if like they literally haven't found something positive of social media on the adolescent female brain. And I'm talking like up to 16 or something. And that's why nothing positive came up because it was all literally negative [ __ ] Oh, and I remember the biggest takeaway apart from my rant was that uh they're they're finding that kids are literally losing gray matter. So there's really nothing positive you can say about this [ __ ] >> You know, you also lose gray matter when you're pregnant like a lot. I'm going to Google it.

[00:22:09]>> Google it. I'll just keep ranting about my rant that day because I was just like, you're literally talking to some of the biggest people in Hollywood who have helped shaped what is influencing young people and then they're sitting there worried about the [ __ ] like the effect that this [ __ ] has on their kids.

[00:22:24]>> It shrinks. Yeah. It's like a four to 5% reduction in gray matter volume across most of the cerebral cortex >> when you're pregnant, >> which is Yeah. So that's like >> I don't think it does.

[00:22:35]>> Well, sorry to my surrogate.

[00:22:38]>> Yeah. I you know yeah the study came out two years ago. I remember reading it but I I don't remember a lot of the takeaway. There's a reason uh biologically why that happens. It's to make room for something else. I just can't remember the layout of it. But yeah.

[00:22:53]>> Wow. Because we don't make room enough for this [ __ ] thing already.

[00:22:56]>> I try not to do medical stuff >> because so this I mean I have told people this so many times when you go so I went to UNH. That was the first major school that I went to. We had our own engineering, university, science, math, all that was called SEPs. And there was no like real medical department in there at all. And I every time I talk to other people who are in STEM and I ask about their school, I'm like, "Where was your medical department?" And a lot of them are like, "There wasn't one or it's like biology.

[00:23:21]>> Um they some of them had premed, that's about it." And I'm like, "Yeah, because I feel like even though the medical programs are STEM, they're not like >> with the other STEM kids. Like they are separate. Yeah. So, I don't touch medical stuff because to be honest, we didn't really touch anything outside of biology.

[00:23:40]>> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

[00:23:40]>> Basic 101 biology. I read that article.

[00:23:43]I thought it was really cool and I remember thinking like I don't even want to touch this >> because it's not that the field that you are comfortable >> it seems STEM >> but >> yeah. Well, that's I mean they also when you're a doctor you have an MD. It's its entirety like own degree area of study because it's just it's medicine. I just don't like touching the medical stuff.

[00:24:04]Sure. You know, the stuff that I will touch on is um there's this new piece of tech that I really like that's coming out or at least they're going to be testing it. Um supposedly it's all these micro needles and it's going to be like a band-aid that you stick on and they say you can't feel the pain.

[00:24:18]>> Um but it will be a really great way to monitor people's bodies if they have anything like diabetes or something.

[00:24:24]It's not as invasive as like the needles that they have to put in. Um, so that stuff I'll talk about even though it's medical, >> but it's not.

[00:24:31]>> It's like a bit more engineering minded.

[00:24:32]>> Yeah. Like I'm not going to break down DNA.

[00:24:34]>> Like you're not going to see me doing that. I'll talk about it if we're talking about radiation from space [ __ ] it up. But after that I'm like >> I I know. I I tend to stay away.

[00:24:43]Although I have two sisters I can consult for accuracy, but >> And your dad >> psychiatry. Yeah.

[00:24:49]>> Which is crazy that you have like all of Are they all MDs?

[00:24:52]>> Mom's a dentist, so DDS, but technically >> they didn't go to medical school. No, dental school for dentists.

[00:24:57]>> But isn't that a doctor still? Don't they?

[00:24:59]>> Yeah, she is a doctor, but she's not an MD.

[00:25:01]>> Oh, okay. Wait, so everybody in your family but you?

[00:25:05]>> Correct.

[00:25:06]>> Are you like the prettiest one?

[00:25:08]>> I mean, we all >> And you're like, I'm not [ __ ] doing this. I have other choices.

[00:25:12]>> We all actually look fairly similar, like similar build and height and everything, but um just I'm the youngest, so I was the black sheep, the one who was inclined towards arts because I singing and acting growing up.

[00:25:23]>> Have you ever seen those studies of birth order? Yeah.

[00:25:25]>> Um, and the best ones are when it's all the same gender just because it's easier to like >> Yeah, totally. Which is what we are.

[00:25:31]>> Yeah. And they they do say the youngest tends to lean towards the arts. The oldest tends to do stuff that's like accounting, >> you know, things are practical.

[00:25:38]>> Practical, you'll make money. The middle I think they say like project management or like graphic designer like between the two really. And then you have like the most extreme where it's like it's funny that like as the youngest you were like >> that's what ended up happening. It was funny too because my sisters uh didn't have any inclination towards arts like singing or dance like talent I should say not inclination but talent.

[00:25:57]>> Not even like painting as kids or something.

[00:25:59]>> I think like you know they're one of them's pretty good at drawing but it was never like oh we care to make this a future job or like even take it any remotely seriously. But like I could hold a tune, I could dance and they couldn't. And it was interesting that the youngest happened to actually have the genetic talents for these >> and then ended up pursuing them >> in the end. So, >> I mean, well, you need like we have to have people in the arts. And that's the other thing that's scaring me is like people are getting pushed away from the arts because there's no money in it. But like to be fair, there's no money in [ __ ] anything.

[00:26:28]>> There's no I know. Seriously, I might as well pursue Hollywood at this point. I >> I talked to people who are just now getting out of major programs like either law school or medical school or like these ones that consume a lot of your life. You have these m really long-term internship kind of programs, you know? Um, and I mean, a lot of them are in their 30s. Like, let's be real.

[00:26:49]Like, by the time you really get those major careers going, you're in your 30s.

[00:26:53]Yeah. And you have all of this college debt >> and you paid for extra school, you know, this isn't just undergrad, you know, you're paying for all these like grad programs, too. And it's like, >> and if you go to graduate school for mathematics, it's like not that expensive. You want to go to medical school, you want to go to law school, they know they got you. So, they charge a lot of [ __ ] money. And it's like, my debt isn't that bad, but man, my friends who have like medical debt and I'm just like, but and then I look up their salary and I'm like, on the surface this sounds awesome, but if you're paying $1,000 [ __ ] dollars in college debt a month, >> that's really that's rent.

[00:27:28]>> Yeah.

[00:27:28]>> You know, and I'm just like >> not in LA, but it is somewhere.

[00:27:31]>> I don't know. Yeah, sure. Not here in Minneapolis. Uh, >> where do you think we are?

[00:27:35]>> I know. I'm like I'm trying to think of like who would have $1,000 >> something in Ohio somewhere in Ohio.

[00:27:41]Even bum [ __ ] nowhere in New Hampshire.

[00:27:43]It's not $1,000. Really?

[00:27:44]>> No. And it never has been. Actually, New Hampshire is like one of the most expensive states to live in.

[00:27:48]>> Yeah. But it's also at the top of the list for like random things like health and education and [ __ ] and you're like, "Okay." But you know what? Great.

[00:27:56]>> Their school programs don't [ __ ] around.

[00:27:57]That's cuz there were five kids in my English class.

[00:27:58]>> Yeah.

[00:27:59]>> Yeah. Exactly. So, everyone's going to get attention.

[00:28:01]>> You have to pay attention cuz they're looking right at you. Like the teachers are like right there.

[00:28:05]>> They're on you. So, you can't Yeah. So, it was really great. But, um >> No, but that's true. You know, at this point, like nobody really has job security. So far, my family's concerned, the medical field is okay so far. Uh sister, oldest sister and brother-in-law are moving to New York in a month or two for working at these like new clinics.

[00:28:20]So, that field seems to be okay.

[00:28:22]>> But, um at this point, yeah, guys, feel free to pursue Hollywood because nothing else is everything else is just as uncertain.

[00:28:29]>> It's funny as you were listening that I'm like, well, you know, surgeons, but I'm like, they're going to have machines doing that soon because it's going to be safer.

[00:28:34]>> Yeah, exactly. you know, you see the tests that they run and the the speed and precision these things have and you're like, uh, like I have a friend who's having brain surgery soon and I'm pretty sure like 80% of that is machinery.

[00:28:45]>> It's either she's doing it at Dartmouth, which is, you know, an Ivy League school and they're on the forefront of all that or one of those hospitals in Boston. I'm pretty sure they use they used um for part of my surgery was a machine >> which you find out later and you're like, "Okay, I know probably best." I woke up with my leg so I'm like, "Well, that's cool." I guess it worked out.

[00:29:04]>> But yeah, and then they watch it through a CT scan or something like that. I'm like, that's [ __ ] cool.

[00:29:08]>> Which is so cool, right? Why not having Yeah, it can work in tandem. The machine offers precision and the people are there to variables. So, because no two bodies will be exactly the same. But it's funny you say that too because the other day I did a video on uh sometimes I love when users like haters, they give such great jumping off points and then the video goes viral. So, someone was like, >> because I talked about NASA's budget on my own as well, after we did, and he was like, "American tax dollars shouldn't pay for this. Name one thing NASA has done for us." And I'm like, "Oh my god, thank you for asking me this question."

[00:29:40]>> They did it on purpose. And you're like, "I'm going to help you."

[00:29:42]>> I know. I'm kind of curious because he set it up perfectly. But because there's so much benefit NASA has or the space industries have given to humanity, uh I just the the video specifically focused on the medical benefits and like everything we've done on the ISS, >> the fact that you're in like very low gravity, proteins crystallize more perfectly so you can make medication that's more accurate for like cancer and Alzheimer's.

[00:30:04]>> But uh the point I bring this up though is because also robotics that we use in the medical field, obviously a lot of that engineering training came from robotics that we've used in space for precision. You're talking about [ __ ] that's like drilling specifically into this part of Mars.

[00:30:20]>> You can incorporate that same technology into various fields >> and it has to be right because there's a 30-minute delay or whatever. Exactly.

[00:30:26]>> And like you can't be there to course correct it. So it has to be able to make decisions on the fly and like so it's got to be so precise.

[00:30:31]>> Exactly. So like these industries all they kind of overlap each other like it just there's a benefit overall of any scientific institution getting funding.

[00:30:39]I also got a little bit of hate regardless. So, I mean, most were great, but of just like, >> right, you got hate being a woman online.

[00:30:44]>> I know, right? Like, oh, let's here's some benefits NASA gave us. And then somebody was like, well, what about bombing kids in brown countries? And I'm like, what the [ __ ] are you talking about? And then somebody told me about like to me, whatever. But >> yeah, no, exactly. But I but I didn't, it didn't click in my head. I'm like, what the [ __ ] are you talking about? But they're talking about the fact that NASA does contract with like defense contractors like Lockheed and [ __ ] And I'm like, okay, yeah, you know what?

[00:31:08]That's fair. They would have worded this better cuz I didn't know what the [ __ ] you're talking about. But >> Lockheed Martin was at the NASA launch.

[00:31:14]>> I'm sure >> there was like there was like a whole thing about it was funny because they follow me which is so weird but like I it was I didn't know how much to interact with their like little table.

[00:31:22]>> Sure.

[00:31:23]>> Cuz you have such cool tech.

[00:31:25]>> I know.

[00:31:26]>> But also like >> but also I mean it's >> like Tony Stark, you know? You're like >> you're cool but also >> I know but that's just kind of I mean like look at Open AI now working with the Pentagon. like they're all going to do this kind of [ __ ] because defense is where the money's at. When I worked with US SOCOM a couple years ago, now we went to London, but uh Special Operations Command and then they what I was told what they do is that what was it? It was worded to me like there's a reason why we all relatively at least in this country live peacefully because these institutions are preemptively taking care of a lot of [ __ ] that could [ __ ] up our lives.

[00:32:01]>> That's a part of it.

[00:32:02]>> Yes. but specifically this branch called US SOCOM, but they also do a lot of like science and engineering, like thinking ahead.

[00:32:10]>> Um, but then I just remember like >> their budgets are in the hundreds of billions.

[00:32:14]>> And then like I'm like, "Oh, can someone give me 10 grand for my short film?"

[00:32:19]>> Yeah, right. Talking about like Marvel's hundred million dollar film and that [ __ ] is nothing compared to the budgets on the DoD side, >> but hundreds of billions. and they go to these events where they're like uh pitching futuristic kind of sounding projects and then companies like Lockheed or Northrup are there bidding on these ideas and obviously the cheapest one gets it but I'm just like hundreds of billions.

[00:32:41]>> Have you seen those jokes where it's kids coming out of engineering school like undergrad and like where do I want to work and the guy was like impersonating different students and he was like I want to work in the medical field and help new tech. I want to work in robotics. And it's like each person's something different. And then one of them goes, I'm gonna make a bomb. And like he's just swimming in money. And it's like, yeah, actually it's really messed up. But the most money you will make as an engineer is working for some branch of the mil, not of the military, but of military contractors. You will make a [ __ ] ton of [ __ ] money. So much. But like I at the same time I don't know if I could actively be involved in a project like that that's like killing people intentionally killing like it's targeting people >> or like the people who are greenlighting pipelines running through like indigenous lands or destroying animal stuff. Like I can't I can't ever say yes to that kind of [ __ ] >> Yeah.

[00:33:31]>> And sometimes it's hard to say I don't know like everything has gray lines, right? Like when this person commented that on my NASA video, I was like, >> "All right, dude. There's not going to be a company out there that's perfect."

[00:33:43]Like, where does that exist? There's, yes, this is a government entity that depends on government contracts. Or now we're getting into like privatization like SpaceX and [ __ ] but like Yeah, they have to work with Northrup.

[00:33:54]>> What do you want them to do?

[00:33:55]>> I dated somebody from there once. I >> Northrup.

[00:33:59]>> Yeah. And I had asked like point blank because there's a lot they can't tell you, but I was just so curious. I was like, "Do you actively work on projects that like kill people?" And he was like, "Well, I mean, you know, event it could be used for that." And I was like, "But how do you sleep at night in your 9 to5 waking up knowing that you're going to work on a project that's like its sole purpose is to kill as many people as possible or to be as precise as possible for one p, you know, one target." And he's like, "Oh, yeah. I don't think about it."

[00:34:24]>> Yeah.

[00:34:24]>> And I'm like, "That's how they all do it. They just don't think about it."

[00:34:27]>> Yeah. Exactly.

[00:34:28]>> I'm like, >> but then and then the thing >> we no longer date.

[00:34:31]>> Yeah.

[00:34:31]>> That ended quickly. I was like, "Okay, bye."

[00:34:33]>> I guess you lack that level of kind of empathy, >> situational awareness.

[00:34:37]>> Yeah. But then the thing is like where does one draw the line? Because in some way everything we do on a daily basis like getting in a car like somebody could keep pushing that that line in the sand, right? Like oh, you're getting into this object that has killed this many people per year and like or or you're getting on Chad GPT which uses this much water. like where does where do we draw the line of like oh this is okay to do but this isn't like someone can literally just keep pushing that line further and further. So >> have you ever read uh Scythe I think is the first book. It's a trilogy and I'm pretty sure the whole trilogy is called >> Scythe.

[00:35:13]>> So it's a YA book but it's really popular in the adult world too.

[00:35:17]>> Okay.

[00:35:17]>> It's written like an adult novel in my opinion. It's really good. that it's about this society where people just kind of live forever. And because they live forever, there has to be a systematic way to control the population. So, you have to get permission to have kids, which again, if everybody's living forever, this this kind of makes sense, right? Like there's only so many resources.

[00:35:35]>> Um, but in order for people to be born, they also have to level out who's going to die.

[00:35:40]>> And so, there are these positions called SCEs where there's hand selected. These are people who I forget how they like pick them out. Um, but their job is to callull the population. And each scythe has their own way of doing it. Sometimes they handpick somebody. Sometimes they use stats, you know, they'll just take a plane down because it's like, well, that would have happened in the real world.

[00:36:01]>> So, you know, and it's it's from their perspective of how they like manage it.

[00:36:06]And they work in tandem with what's called I think the Thunderdome, which is an AI that controls the whole planet.

[00:36:13]>> Yeah.

[00:36:14]>> But it's actually not it like it's benevolent. Yeah.

[00:36:17]>> Um, and it just manages it perfectly.

[00:36:20]Like it keeps all of the population pretty managed. Resources, uh, technology. I mean, these people can live forever. Nobody gets sick. Scyes are really like the only scary aspect of their society.

[00:36:31]>> Um, but even that's kind of necessary.

[00:36:32]Like, well, somebody has to cool the population.

[00:36:36]And I always think about that take of AI because at no point is it the enemy.

[00:36:40]There's other enemies in the series, but never that AI. It's always actually doing its job. It was like perfectly >> and sometimes it does shitty [ __ ] but it's like, oh, but that makes sense. And so I always think I'm like, >> okay, I know everybody wants to think about Terminator, but there are versions of this, even in our imagination, where this might actually work.

[00:37:01]>> Sure.

[00:37:02]>> Where you might actually be able to develop an AI whose sole purpose is to keep the population as robust and healthy as possible. I think robust is the key because otherwise you'll just like keep Adam and Eve alive or something like that. You know what I mean? incest um eventually, right? Um but I think there can be a version where it can be programmed >> to keep humanity robust, healthy, and well-managed >> and because we can do it.

[00:37:30]>> Yeah.

[00:37:30]>> You know, like yeah, it is playing God.

[00:37:33]But if you're going to have a species that's going to survive itself when it reaches this technological milestone where if they cross it and they fail, they die. If they cross and they pass, there might be another one eventually soon. It's kind of like any medieval war where like, cool, this side won. In 20 years, they're challenged.

[00:37:52]>> Yeah.

[00:37:52]>> So, this milestone really would have to work. And I think having an AI system that manages the whole planet and actually does a decent job at it.

[00:38:02]>> That might be the way the future looks and that may not be absolutely terrible.

[00:38:07]>> Yeah.

[00:38:07]>> You know, I don't know. I like to be optimistic about that and be like, what if it's like Thunderdome? I'm pretty sure it's called Thunderdome or it's Thunder something because I keep thinking welcome to Thunderdome [ __ ] and I'm like I don't I don't know if that's right in waiting. Did you ever see that movie?

[00:38:21]>> Oh, I think Dane Cook plays a cook and that's just like his one line that made me laugh and I was like >> cuz like it's a restaurant movie and they hire a new waiter and then welcome to Thunderdome. That would be a good twist on what most people predict, which is the Terminator kind of out on [ __ ] is that because also if you know AI doesn't have emotions and is unbiased, we're clearly doing a shitty job of running this planet. So why not maybe have an outside kind of entity do it for us because we suck.

[00:38:49]>> Well, it seems like we're doing a bad job, but at the same time, we're the one species that's really mastered cooperation. And I know you can make arguments for like ants and whales. It's like, no, not on the level we do it. on the level that humanity has functioned on cooperation for thousands of years because I always say this, there's been millions of species on this planet over the course of 2, three billion years and we're the only ones that built a space program.

[00:39:12]>> Yeah, >> that's cooperation. So, I don't know. I think even an AI program that's running the planet might be like this species has the most potential to do the most good. They their resources just have to be managed. It's always a resource game.

[00:39:27]>> Sure. Humanity is awful to it each other because of resources. And you can say anything about any resource. Like is it women? Like you just want to own all the women. Like if we're going back to like certain empires. Um is it land? Is it water? Is it food? Is it technology? Is it military might? Is it whatever? It's like it always comes down to resources.

[00:39:46]So if something else manages that and frees up the human mind.

[00:39:50]>> Sure.

[00:39:51]>> Where it's no longer its amydala is no longer getting fired and fear fight or fight.

[00:39:56]>> Like I don't know. I actually think AI might not think we're a threat if that is managed.

[00:40:00]>> Maybe you also have a very op um optimistic view on humans. I think that kind of mine because I think we're a piece of [ __ ] that needs to be wiped out ASAP and we've done nothing but pretty much like the net has been more good than bad. I'm sorry. More bad than good.

[00:40:14]>> What if that's the end of intelligent life in the universe though if you did that?

[00:40:17]>> Whatever. I don't give a [ __ ] I mean so how smart we are. Good for us. It's like it was almost like well what a failed experiment and the simulators need to just start over.

[00:40:26]>> If we are the only life that's really sad that this is the best that it came out but see that's a matter of perspective. You think differently than I do.

[00:40:34]>> I mean I don't give a [ __ ] if we're >> well the scary part whatever AI if AI does control the world it is going to come down to who or the organization that programs it. And if they think like me the AI program is more likely to think like me. If people like you program it it's more likely to think like you. So, it it's like I really hope who's ever in charge. Hate Sam Alman all you want, but he is pretty optimistic.

[00:40:54]And I'm like, if I had to pick somebody to be I'd rather have his angle of optimism than like >> some people that I've worked with where they're like, well, we're developing this AI just to get ahead of the next person.

[00:41:05]>> And I'm like, okay, well, that's scary because you think people are [ __ ] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:41:09]>> You know, so I think it's going to come down a lot to whoever. Sure. Which makes sense because it is something that's still created by uh people. But then maybe when it gets to the point of being agi and it can kind of think for itself, it'll make that judgment on its own.

[00:41:20]>> Oh, even if it's a think about it this way, like if you have a kid, your kid is agi, >> right? But how you raise it has a huge impact on how it sees things. So even then, even then it's going to be greatly impacted by the programmer's mentality on >> without doubt. But you know if it still has that capability because like for example maybe cuz nature verse nurture right being first generation here there are still vast differences between the way I think or my sisters and I think versus our parents just because of the generational difference >> right >> so there's my point is it's a potential that maybe it can just kind of think for itself >> and be stagnant though which would be very interesting because it'd be a singular generation that maybe never evolves or maybe unless we programmed it to >> but the thing that always cracks me up is like you'd have to solve a lot of philosophical answers. You'd have to give it a solution. Like the trolley problem is a great example. Do you have it pull the lever and kill one person or do nothing and have it kill five?

[00:42:17]>> Yeah.

[00:42:18]>> It's a theoretical thing for us as humans, but like no, the machine has to make a decision. Totally.

[00:42:22]>> Otherwise, it's just going to be paralyzed by indecisiveness and we can't have that.

[00:42:25]>> It just has to pick it.

[00:42:26]>> But somebody had But if you program it, what would you pick?

[00:42:30]>> Kill one to save 10.

[00:42:32]>> Yeah.

[00:42:32]>> Yeah.

[00:42:32]>> So would I. Right. And because we're looking at this very practically, like from a machine standpoint, it has to save the most people. But what if the machine is looking at like the president of a of a nation versus 10 homeless people?

[00:42:45]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Like how how many variables are you going to take into it, >> right? But you have to So whoever's programming all that, who's ever creating that universe, that mentality >> for AI or wherever the AI is feeding getting its data from, >> you know, matters.

[00:43:02]>> Totally. So, I don't know. I like to think it's going to be like the Thunderdome. God, I hope it's Thunder.

[00:43:07]>> I mean, the point is, even if it got to either scenario, it was because we couldn't handle the [ __ ] on our own anyway. Whether it ended up being bad or regulated, it's like something better than us had to come over and take it over.

[00:43:20]>> Yeah.

[00:43:21]>> Anyway, because we were on the track to [ __ ] it all up. So, either >> or we're currently on the track to do everything right.

[00:43:28]>> I don't know. Maybe. But then the climate change thing is just that's the part I always come back to of showing us at our absolute worst like how fragile that [ __ ] is.

[00:43:37]>> I know. God, I hope even I just hope whatever we're going to do >> [ __ ] works. But I'm pretty optimistic. I think >> girl. Well, see that's why we have a good podcast.

[00:43:45]>> Oh my god. I think critical thinking might change. I think it's form of it because if you ask Chachi PT a question and it says something that you're like, "Wait, hold on. What was that?"

[00:43:53]>> Yeah.

[00:43:54]>> That is a form of critical thinking.

[00:43:55]Yeah.

[00:43:56]>> So, it's just a it's just an immediate answer kind. It's not like you sit there and you like in my case, you know, hash out the numbers. So, >> I don't know. Maybe critical thinking will just change.

[00:44:05]>> It might change. Maybe not for the worst, but it might change because it's also going to be you're going to get like dependent on immediate >> answers and everything, >> you know. Let me tell you something about dependency. Like everybody talks about like, but then Chachi PT does everything for you. I'm like, everything does everything for you anyway.

[00:44:20]>> Anyway, [ __ ] anyway. Again, as somebody who grew up like in [ __ ] backwater doomsday profit land, right?

[00:44:26]The amount of [ __ ] you don't even realize you don't know how to do is truly [ __ ] breathtaking.

[00:44:31]>> Most people don't at all.

[00:44:32]>> No. Like you like I love that picture of just a forest. It's like a little river and rocks and trees and someone just goes, "How the [ __ ] do we make computers?" You know what I mean? Yeah.

[00:44:41]You look at that and you're like, "Oh my god, how in the fuck?"

[00:44:44]>> It's like, "Yeah, most people don't know how anything [ __ ] works. You don't know how to [ __ ] churn butter. You don't know how to milk a [ __ ] cow.

[00:44:50]You don't know how to build shelter. You don't know how to start fire. You don't know how to navigate by starlight. Like dude, and that's just the basic motion stuff. Imagine building a house in like electricity and like [ __ ] off. If you got a cut, you wouldn't even know if you had blood poisoning or whatever, you know? Like you wouldn't know what spare me. You don't know [ __ ] anyway. You just have to accept the fact that techn is going to take over so many aspects that originally your grandparents were doing themselves. Did they enjoy doing it though? Let me [ __ ] ask you. Let me tell you something. I did not [ __ ] enjoy lifting a telephone pole with my dad. I mean, I did kind of low-key because it was funny because it was raining and we were all upset and it was kind of funny, but and every time I drive by that telephone pole, I'm like, "Fuck that telephone pole." But um but at the same time, like there was no need for us to do that. Technology could have [ __ ] done.

[00:45:33]>> No, totally. Which is Yeah, but that's a good point though.

[00:45:35]>> So, who [ __ ] cares if techn is taking over [ __ ] That's the point of advancement.

[00:45:40]>> I do actually hope we get to the point where you don't even know how to cook.

[00:45:44]>> Like, sure, cuz it's a [ __ ] waste of [ __ ] time. is a waste of time and I hate I hate it and I don't do it and I hate it.

[00:45:50]>> If you enjoy it, go do it. But this shouldn't be like a mandatory survival because it's a waste of [ __ ] time. If a machine like spy kids, you press a button and microwave and a [ __ ] >> I'm like from the Jetson, she can make food for me or the neo robot. Great.

[00:46:05]>> Save better.

[00:46:06]>> Save give human brains more time to do other stuff >> and see how much of the [ __ ] we can take off our plates.

[00:46:13]>> I agree. you know, if all of your basic needs are met in any possible way, imagine how much that lends itself towards creativity and just >> I don't know, advancing humans and or the our world in general because we're not bogged down and being like, "Well, [ __ ] I got to go to this eight part-time jobs I have to just make a living." But like, if everything is just taken care of basic [ __ ] >> this is when like people in power are like, "You can't have people be lazy."

[00:46:36]Let me [ __ ] tell you something about money. It solves all your problems. It solves It solved every problem I ever had.

[00:46:42]>> I'm sorry. It [ __ ] did. It solved every [ __ ] problem that I had, right?

[00:46:45]And and like, yeah, now I don't have to work like four part-time jobs or whatever. Um, I wouldn't necessarily say though I spend all that time being happy and frolicking through the flowers and, you know, it's not necessarily that.

[00:46:56]It's just like, oh, now I can focus on something else. This career would have never been able to happen if technology wasn't taking over other [ __ ] that I was doing.

[00:47:03]>> Sure.

[00:47:05]>> So, I don't know.

[00:47:06]>> See, it's all our perspective in the end.