WATCH: Black Man Argues Against Equal Rights (Can’t Make This Up) | The Kyle Kulinski Show

[00:00:00]All right. Well, ladies and gentlemen, I must say now I think I've seen everything. Coleman Hughes, who works for the Free Press, Barry Weiss's outlet, he is a black man, and he is about to in a very direct way here argue against equal rights and for apartheid in the context of Israel and Palestine.

[00:00:22]So, prepare yourself because this is an example of somebody being so smart that they're dumb. You know what I'm saying?

[00:00:27]People talk about horseshoe theory when it comes to politics. I think there's a horseshoe theory when it comes to intelligence that you could be somebody who's very intelligent and you know if you take an IQ test you have a high IQ but you lack common sense and the horseshoe is you can be so intelligent that you wrap back around and you're actually a [ __ ] idiot because you can talk your way into believing some of the dumbest possible things because you can come up with a list of rationalizations and justifications for the dumbest possible position. That's what Coleman is. Coleman falls into that. He's a he's a horseshoe theory of intelligence kind of guy. So, here we go. He's talking to Peter Binard and uh just prepare yourself. Let's get it.

[00:01:06]>> I think you're perfectly right to emphasize that Palestinians in the territories don't have equal rights. Um they're subject to they are subject to laws that uh they can't change or vote for. Um all of those things are right. And in an ideal world, I would like I I like equality. I mean equality is very important. Um it's a it's it's it's it's a very important principle but I don't think that you know when it comes to geopolitics you should blindly follow the principle that sounds right in most cases.

[00:01:43]>> We're 44 seconds in and we got to I like equal rights but huh that doesn't mean you just like follow that in all cases bro. Sure equal rights are good but are are they good in every single case bro?

[00:01:55]In this case, I think the very likely, overwhelmingly likely consequence in the case of a bational state, I mean, you suggested it could be, you know, it could be called something like Israel Palestine, right? Or like a a bational state where everyone has equal rights. I think the very likely outcome of that at this moment at this particular time would be an extremely bloody civil war, civil conflict. we can't be in favor of equal rights because if we're in favor of equal rights, they can't handle that and that will lead to worse problems, right? You know, if you close your eyes and listen to somebody make that argument, you could almost see uh a slaveholder in the South saying that back in the slavery days or you could see somebody uh you know during Jim Crow segregation saying that during segregation days, look, I would love to give them equal rights, but if I give them equal rights, like they can't handle that and that's going to lead to violence and so it's better to just continue to oppress them permanently.

[00:02:48]amazing that a black man uh certainly in the context of his rights in this country, he would say, "Well, yeah, no, we were able to handle that." But in that other context over there for those other people that are not me, yeah, they're going to have to deal with not having equal rights because if you give them equal rights, maybe it ends up worse off, bro.

[00:03:06]>> I can't blindly sign off on that as if it's uh a good outcome for all the people that live between the river and the sea. and um and and and that's my basic view of it, >> right? So my response would be there's one state now. Israel controls all the land between the between the Mediterranean and the Jordan in different ways, right? And and most of the Palestinians under his control don't even have citizenship. So Jews and Palestinians are living alongside each other in one state in a condition where one group has legal rights and the other group doesn't. And that I actually think is a much less safe reality for everybody. I think systems that give everybody rep representation in government are actually much safer because everyone has a nonviolent mechanism for having the government listen to them. And I think one I think that you know this is very difficult often for people who are on top to recognize right South Africans were convinced that if there was a black government then was the military wing of the ANC would slaughter them. But once black Africans had the right to vote actually was put away weapons.

[00:04:02]Protestants in Northern Ireland convinced that the IRA would slaughter them if they didn't control the police force and the military, but the IRA put away its weapons. Even in Israel Palestine itself, we can see that Israeli Jews are far less afraid of Palestinian citizens than they are of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza.

[00:04:17]There's something I always I always kind of funny to me about the fact that Israeli Jews who would be terrified to go unarmed into Gaza go onto operating tables in Israel all the time at their most vulnerable and have literally Palestinian doctors and nurses wielding sharp objects over them while they're most vulnerable. Why are those Palestinians so much less of a threat to them? I think a lot of it is that those Palestinians actually have citizenship and the right to vote even though they're very severely discriminated against. I think there's less violence and more safety for everybody when everyone has a nonviolent way of getting the state to listen to them.

[00:04:45]>> That was [ __ ] brilliant from Peter Bart. And like 10 out of 10, no notes. I have nothing to add. This is just a brilliant well-thoughtout response to an objection from Coleman that seemingly he's heard this before, some variation or iteration of it before. And here he comes out like a wrecking ball and he says here's why that's wrong. Here's why equal rights actually does lead to a better outcome. Even if equal rights in in the short term h led to you know more violence there. The whole thing about a right is that it's sort of off the table. That's what it means for it to be a right is like this thing can never be taken away under any circumstances whatsoever. It it's the opposite of needing permission for like if you get a permit that stems from the word permission. It's the opposite of a right. So that's like it's supposed to be not debatable is the point, right?

[00:05:34]And Coleman is saying no, we shouldn't have equal rights because maybe it'll lead to other consequences which are bad. Well, even if it would, I would still come down on the side of rights because rights are off the table. But what Peter Binard is saying here is it that's not even the case. Like in reality, we would be better off.

[00:05:52]Everybody would be safer if everybody had rights.

[00:05:54]>> I think political science literature actually bears that out. So, I would disagree there. I think >> I love the Okay, political science research actually bears this out empirically, right? To I would disagree there.

[00:06:06]>> That's the thing, Coleman. It sort of doesn't matter. You would disagree.

[00:06:09]Like, it doesn't matter. That doesn't matter at all. Like, if the if the evidence and the research and the data says one thing, [ __ ] your disagreement.

[00:06:16]You're wrong. You need to adjust your world view. And this is the thing about Coleman, man. So, first of all, is it motivated reasoning? Maybe. I mean, he works for the Free Press, which is owned by Barry Weiss, which is a rabid pro-Zionist outlet. And like, he knows maybe his job hinges on him taking this position, but he's certainly smart enough to not say this stupid [ __ ] to not be a dumbass Zionist. And I can't help but every time I hear Coen Hughes talk, I think like, "Oh, you're just trying to be the younger black Sam Harris. From the cadence, the way you talk, the rhythm, the arguments you make, it seems like you're trying to be like Sam Harris." Well, that is definitely not somebody to emulate in the year of our Lord 2026. done. It's not going to go well for you. It's not going to go well for you. That's a guy who's forthrightly defending genocide now or he's a genocide denier. Take your pick. But let's keep going.

[00:07:00]>> And I think political science literature actually bears that out.

[00:07:03]>> So I would disagree there. I think um it very much depends on the specifics of the case. So the we view South Africa >> see so he's against equal rights but for nuanced reasons. He's in favor of apartheid but for like nuanced intelligent reasons, not the dumb reasons that like some hick would favor those things, right? as mostly a success story um ending apartheid there. But I think in the case of Israel Palestine because of the facts on the ground, a one-state reality would probably not end up like South Africa. It would it would be much more likely to end up like Sudan or Liberia or Lebanon or Iraq. Um there are many cases.

[00:07:39]>> Can we be serious here? If that were true, it would be because the Zionist psychopaths have so fully dehumanized Palestinians that they feel like they would rather kill them than live alongside them as equals. Let's be serious here. So, the problem would come back to the uh supremacy and the ethnosremacy and theocratic tendency of the Zionists who run Israel. That's the fact. To the extent that this thing is not workable, it would be because the Israelis don't want it to be workable and they'd rather kill every Palestinian than live alongside them as equals. And that's a bit of a problem, isn't it?

[00:08:17]That's a bit of a problem. But it's not a problem uh that's the fault of Palestinians. It's a problem is the fault of the Israelis >> like Sudan or Liberia or Lebanon or Iraq. Um there are many cases where the franchise and political rights have been extended. Um, and it hasn't resulted in Kumbaya or even, you know, Kumbay Kumbaya with an asterisk, but has resulted in brutal and bloody civil wars. Take your oppression with a smile on your face because it could be worse.

[00:08:45]We could mass murder you all. We could genocide you all. Oh, what's that? We already did. That's right. Uh, but just accept your oppression cuz I'd rather have this than a bloody civil war. Very, very convenient for Coleman to say this as he enjoys his full rights in his country and Palestinians don't have any rights where they are. I'm sure they'll I'm sure they'll appreciate this from somebody a black man with full rights.

[00:09:06]They they'll appreciate him saying you're going to have to not have full rights and be okay with that.

[00:09:10]>> Mean this in an overly combative way.

[00:09:12]But I do think it's intellectually lazy to assume that the right principle, right? The principle that like we live by in America would just lead to good results.

[00:09:22]>> So it's intellectually lazy to actually believe in something. It's intellectually lazy when you say I believe in secularism. I believe in democracy. I believe in constitutional rights and equality under the law. It's intellectually lazy to actually say, "No, that means across the board."

[00:09:37]Right? Well, I'll remember that next time you criticize an Islamic theocracy that you're actually in favor of Israel having their own aparttheid set of rules, uh, having ethnosremacy. And so now you have no grounds to criticize the Islamic theocracies that you criticize all the time because, hey, it's intellectually lazy to like take a standard and apply it across the board.

[00:09:57]It's intellectually lazy to believe in universality, right? That like, hey, if something's true for you, it's true for me. It's true across the board. This is just [ __ ] embarrassing. This is embarrassing. This is what happens if you work for uh Barry Weiss's free press. You end up being a black man defending apartheid, a black man standing up against equal rights. Well, again, I'm sure the Palestinians love that you're that you sitting there with all of your full rights intact, are uh smuggly asserting that they just need to suck it up and deal with it as Israel uh constantly murders their family members, murders them, bulldozes their houses, steals their land, kills their kids, commits every [ __ ] atrocious crime, stars them to death. I'm sure they they appreciate this stand that you're taking. But shout out to Peter Binart because that was genuinely impressive.

[00:10:41]It was a great response. And if that calm, rational, like ironclad case doesn't work to get through to Coleman, nothing's going to work to get through to him. He's too far gone. Hey y'all, do me a favor and like and subscribe. It helps out big time in the algorithm.

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