“Disturbing” Emily Maitlis & Lewis Goodall live on air MELTDOWN over JD Vance backing Tommy Robinson

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[00:00:00]That is JD Vance who is nonetheless siding with one Tommy Robinson after Saturday's protest because he believes that Tommy Robinson represents the best of British values and culture.

[00:00:13]>> It's disturbing to think I honestly think Tommy Robinson is the most influential British I almost hesitate to refer to him this way political figure in this country. Breaking today, the left in Britain losing their mind over the growing people's revolution led by Reform UK and Restore Britain in the Makerfield bi-election. And on the streets, Tommy Robinson and the Unite the Kingdom rally, which has this week received the support of JD Vance, the vice president of the USA.

[00:00:50]Leading the charge against that people power is the media elite class, specifically Little Lewis Goodle and Emily Mateless of the Fake News Agents, who have had to admit overnight through gritted teeth and through disgust. So actually I think we can really enjoy watching this that Tommy Robinson is after the weekend the most important political figure in this country.

[00:01:16]You know what? He's right. It is absolutely fine to want to defend your culture. It is absolutely fine to want to understand who is coming into your country. That is JD Vance who is nonetheless siding with one Tommy Robinson after Saturday's protest because he believes that Tommy Robinson represents the best of British values and culture and >> it remains extraordinary that we are in a s and it reflects kind of what we were talking about before which is how pickled the brains of the Republican party has become that you know this is somehow that he has become Robinson. And I mean I found this when we're in Dallas for CPAC. It's disturbing to think. I honestly think Tommy Robinson is the most influential British I almost hesitate to refer to him in this way political figure in this country. It's not Liz Truss. It's not you know Kia Stam or whatever for a big part of the MAGA right which is basically the right in American politics and the right is in office. Therefore, it's the most powerful bit. Genuinely, he is almost sort of talismanic and is someone that they literally would listen to the nonsense that he spews and spouts about Britain that they would take as red as opposed to over and above any other British politician or British political field.

[00:02:32]>> And of course, clueless mateless did her absolute best to try and do down Tommy Robinson having actually no understanding the fact that he is completely behind the people of Iran.

[00:02:44]My favorite uh image actually of the weekend was Tommy Robinson draped in the St. George's flag in his protest surrounded by lots of shists, Iranians draped in their flag representing the sha who were sort of marching alongside him. And I just imagine that he sort of looks around and goes, "What? What? This is about Britain. This is about England. What what are you doing? What what are all these foreigners doing?" They're like, "No, Tommy, we're with you. We're with you all the way." Well, and this is maybe I mean sort of like grimly chuckle about like the um sort of conservative party policy at the moment on the Gaza protest versus the Tommy Robinson protest. You sort of ask conservative shadow ministers about it and they go you know what the uh Gaza protest they're full of anti-semites and you're like yes we know there have been anti-semites on them like wait till you find out about the farright lads. They were specializing in this before it was cool. Don't look at who.

[00:03:38]>> So I think all in all like if that's your metric you might want to apply a little bit more.

[00:03:42]>> Isn't it great it all happens on the same day.

[00:03:44]>> Yeah that is handy. Their scathing hatred of British patriots is so clear, isn't it? And this is the type of thing that Reform UK and Restore Britain are having to put up with as the Maker Field bi-election, the most important bi-election in history, comes to a head.

[00:04:04]Low visiting the Manchester constituency yesterday posted, "Makerfield is rapidly becoming one of my favorite places in the country. proper pup. Restore Britain is going to get thousands and thousands of votes in Makerfield. Let me be clear, we are in this to win it. And Robert was certainly loving life as he toured the constituency with Montgomery Toms.

[00:04:30]>> Right. We're not in the Tesla today, but we're still going around. We're up north. How's it been? What's the reception been like?

[00:04:37]>> Well, I I'd say it's almost better than Great Yarmouth, Monty, which takes some beating. We uh I think we walked about a 100 yards and we must have been stopped by about two dozen people. I I it's it's quite incredible and there's a sort of spirit of the Battle of Britain about it. I I I really think it's very exciting and that um I've been telling people this is the most significant election probably in a 100 years and the responsibility is on them to vote to take their country back. But what's so shocking is that a lot of the attacks on Restore is now coming from the establishment media, the so-called conservative media, the so-called right-wing media, which Rbert Low pointed out, writing yet another hit piece in the Daily Telegraph against Restore Britain, labeling our policies repellent. I suspect there are a number of Daily Telegraph readers who disagree.

[00:05:26]Let's see if the paper gives me the opportunity to defend our party. And of course they won't. Of course, they won't because uh Restore Britain is not a movement of the mainstream media. And it was Steven Pollard who wrote this very unfair column about Restore Britain that the Daily Telegraph readers, let me tell you, totally despise.

[00:05:50]He argued for Labor, a Burnham win is vital. But for everyone else, and for those of us who fear what a revived Labor government will do to the country, a Burnham defeat is no less vital. Which brings us to Rupert Low.

[00:06:04]The former reform MP who has set up his own vehicle Restore is naturally putting all his and his party's efforts behind its candidate in Makerfield. Restored well in the local elections in great Yarmouth, winning all the council seats in which it stood, as it should have done, given that Lo's local MP. Had it not done so, it would have signaled that he did not even have his own constituency behind him. But Restore is still a fringe party. There's nothing wrong with that in principle, even if some of even if some of its policies and some of its supporters are repellent.

[00:06:34]There should always be a place for niche parties. However, in the context of the battle to win and make a field, even a vote in the low thousands, which restore might well manage given how fringe parties which retract publicity often do in bi-elections could be hugely significant. Imagine waking up on a Friday morning to find that Labour has won by a narrow margin, a margin less than the vote secured by Restore.

[00:06:54]Bernham would become PM and the country would be plunged leftwards by a government made possible only by a few people choosing to vote for a party that is in the wider scheme of things little more than a vanity project for RERT low who thinks reform is not right-wing enough. Is that what any potential restore voters actually want? Meanwhile, the left-wing hit pieces on the Reform UK candidate uh Rob Kenyon for his former social media post goes on with the hard leftist MSM shill Michael Crick arguing if if this is all true then Robert Kenyon the reform candidate in Makerfield is clearly bonkers and deeply unpleasant and it's no wonder he was Facebook friends with the self-declared fascist Gary Reichkes reforms vetting processes seem about as effective as a chocolate teapot. I urge people to read the hope not hate article, though they'll find it shocking. Maybe the most astonishing sexual fantasy ever publicly described by a British politician. That was the one in regards to Carol Vman. If hope not hate have got it wrong and it's a mistake or fake, Ben Kenyon and reform should say so at once. But Connor Tomlinson argues that these hit pieces by the mainstream media and the left are now having the opposite effect. Writing they have no cache anymore. They're actually going to make people more likely to vote for Robert Kenyon. He argued Makerfield is spitting distance from Bolton, Olden, and Blackburn.

[00:08:26]Voters will know boys who have been beaten and girls prayed upon by Pakistani gangs. Gangs which Burnham has refused to investigate.

[00:08:34]He says the problem is larger than any potential repercussions caused by refusing to ignore it. And he's also backed Nigel Farage for not throwing Robert Kenyon under the Brexit bus when asked why his old exac account was suspended, adding perhaps reform are finally learning years after they were first warned that you don't need to disavow your candidates or supporters for the approval of the Westminster bubble media, who would rather see you capsize than succeed. Conforming to their expectations is a betrayal of your base. If you have their approval, you've done something wrong.

[00:09:14]So, Connor Thomasson, it's fascinating what's happening in Makerfield, isn't it? And in some ways, I know you're a restored Britain supporter, but actually what's been going on with Robert Kenyon and the fact that the mainstream media, the fact that the establishment are going so hard on him and Nigel Farage is not giving in, I think, makes it more difficult for restoring the seat, doesn't it?

[00:09:36]>> Absolutely, Dan. I mean, I haven't said much about this yet. I've got a video coming out over the weekend. Um, but what I have said publicly is Rob Kenyon is a very strong candidate. All of the attacks on him have been for quote retweeting Rert Low and Carl Benjamin. I I hear from friends in HQ that, you know, he's he's one of our guys, so to speak. And so, frankly, I wish him the best. and he's going to prove very difficult for restore Britain to defeat given he already got like 32% in the last general election when res when reform weren't a national force and actually if you watched his recent van man video with Nigel Farage where he's just driving around detailing his personal history how he met his wife working in a bar up the road and all the places that have closed down in Makerfield over the years including the the maternity hospital that he's born in he's just a a local lad with a couple of kids working hard, served in the army, helped out with the NHS, and has been a good counselor. And actually, the the the main drawback he has, I think, is Farage because Farage at the moment, I mean, it's not just his decisions that have alienated a significant portion of reform's base that might go over to restore. It's also that Farage has this this, you know, this massive donation hanging over his head about Christopher Harbornne, which makes people feel as if he's in it for the money rather than to clean up areas like Makerfield. And then in that Van Man video, Farold said, "Have you noticed that, you know, teenagers don't really want to work these days?" It's like, Nigel, no, it's because of mass migration. It's because there are so many skilled worker visas that are working way below the minimum wage with loads of dependence. Um, sorry, well below the median wage, basically minimum wage with loads of dependence that are pricing teenagers out of work at the same time that minimum wage laws have been raised and it's making it more costly to hire teenagers. So if you want teenagers to get back into work, stop blaming them and stop saying, "Oh, you know, we need to get everyone to stop working from home." Instead, talk about immigration in terms of labor force competition.

[00:11:29]This is something that would actually resonate with the locals of Make a Field. And so I actually expect, Dan, that Rob is going to win this. He's he's he's probably going to deny Andy Burnham the seat, which is whether or not it's Andy Burnham or Wes Streeting or Starmmer clings on for dear life, it doesn't matter. The Labour Party is desolated anyway. and whichever party wins, I think you get one more patriotic MP, which is which is very very good.

[00:11:50]And to to talk about the um the attacks on Restore Britain, by the way, that you mentioned earlier, I do find it very conspicuous that the Telegraph has been one of the main mouthpieces for attacks against Rupert Low's character because as a character judgement, Rupert Lo is an upstanding gentleman. And the grounds they keep attacking them on are from Khaled Hassan, uh Michael Mossbacher, and now Steven Pard. Now, Steven Pollard in the '9s, he wrote about this in Spectator, was the research director for the Fabian Society. So, excuse me if I don't take your concern trolling about what the right should do, but it is conspicuous that all of these writers are essentially Jewish partisans. And this is very, very contentious for me to say, but the main reason, the main policies complaining about is the ban on non- stun, kosher, and halal slaughter.

[00:12:29]And I'm sorry, like if your one issue is about the interests of your own particular identity group or Israel rather than the continued security of the main people in Britain who have typically better relationships with Jewish people than the than the Muslims that are trying to take over the country. If that's your main issue, then yeah, sorry, we're not on the same political side because I I care about my country and my people and my standards and exerting those. And if you're going to try and stop me from exerting those standards, then actually I'm not going to listen to you as a moral authority of what we should and shouldn't do.

[00:13:01]Instead, you're just trying to like make special accommodations for your personal preferences. And we don't have time for that. We're just going to say this is how we do things in Britain. And if you don't like it, I'm sorry. You should probably go somewhere else. And as some of my Jewish friends have joked, they'll happily go vegan to make sure that you get rid of all the Salafis and Wahhabis from the country because they can't eat halo meat anymore.

[00:13:21]I think it's important that we hear from Rebecca Shepherd too, the Restore Britain candidate because, you know, my thing is Connor, look, I think Robert Kenyon is a good candidate, but I hate the fact that the mainstream media will just totally ignore Rebecca Shepherd. I won't do so on this show, but I want to hear. Do you know what I mean? I think we need to hear from her. But she was on stage yesterday in the constituency with Rupert Low. Let's listen to this. But first, do you remember when energy used to feel effortless? You'd get through a workout, a long day, a bad night's sleep, and still feel sharp. But as you get older, trust me, it can start to feel like your body and brain don't have the same spark they used to. Here's the interesting part. That's not in your head. It's biology. When we're younger, our bodies naturally produce and regenerate high levels of creatine. But as we move into our 40s and beyond, that production steadily declines, and that means less readily available energy for both our muscles and our brains. That's exactly why Qualia creatine Plus was created. Here's the key thing, though.

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[00:15:52]>> That we're racist or whatever, but you have to sleep in a bed, don't you? With all of your children. one bed, four people, and was told that immigrants took precedence over them getting help.

[00:16:05]I can't stand by and let that happen. I can't. I'm just It's just not that we don't want to help. We do. But what about our people?

[00:16:17]I tell everyone about it. It's just all we're asking is that things are fair.

[00:16:24]Nobody's asking for anything that's not fair. I don't think we just all think the same way. We all want to come together and make life better. It's it's not fair that we all need to struggle this much. You know, charity starts at home.

[00:16:42]So, >> this is a very impressive woman, too.

[00:16:46]Let's see her. You know, we're talking about a star here.

[00:16:51]>> Yeah. No, I agree, Dan. I I want to see more of her as well. In in terms of the the short clip that was released there, I agree with everything she said. I do think she needs to internalize Robert's I don't care a little bit more because she says it's not that we don't want to help. It's like actually I don't want to help every family from Afghanistan and itria and Iran and Iraq and and just go down the list mainly because they're they're dodgy men that are committing sex crimes. I agree with her that charity starts at home. But maybe what the what what her adaptation of Robert's I don't care should be is I do care just not about them. I care about us as she says our people. As far as the um mainstream media presence goes. So um I don't want to get my friends in trouble at Restore and this isn't one of the things that they're responsible for.

[00:17:36]It's someone else in Restore doing this.

[00:17:37]And just saying this is going to get me in trouble down but I think it needs to be said. Um, Rupert has had plenty of offers to do interviews on hostile media outlets actually, and that's where he thrives best. We all remember him turning Emily Mateless into Rumple Stiltskin because she originally said, "I don't care." When she was calling him racist for doing the the rape gang inquiry. Um, someone in the party is being very riskaverse and saying, "Don't do it." The same thing Rebecca Shepherd that they think that it's a Ming vase strategy to to walk her over the line in Makerfield. And I think that's a disaster, honestly. And I'm only saying this publicly because, you know, saying it privately hasn't gotten me very far.

[00:18:10]But I just do think you need to be bolder. We we are speaking the truth. We have the right ideas on our side. And also, if we are to acknowledge that that Rob Kenyon is a very strong candidate, probably make a good MP, right? If people that support Restore Britain want to make the case for their candidate who does not look as strong out the gate as Rob Kenyons, then you need more airtime and you need Robert to have more air time, too. And so, take advantage of those opportunities. Don't feel afraid of going into the lion's den because ultimately you're you're basically David in this situation.

[00:18:40]>> Connor, you've also been criticizing Kem Beno this week over a new interview that she's given. Watch this.

[00:18:48]>> Is ethnicity relevant being British?

[00:18:51]>> Uh, no, I don't think so. But it's while it's not relevant, it's where and how people have grown up does have um does have an impact. But being British is not about um ethnicity as I said earlier.

[00:19:05]>> Connie, you responded publicly to that writing, "British people have English, Scottish, Welsh or Irish heritage. Other definitions rely on the culture and identity that belongs to those people while trying to dispossess them of their country. Incoherent and wrong." I would say she was uncomfortable during that answer. Uh she probably knew she hadn't gone down the right path. What do you agree? So I I did a sort of hour video actually just pulling apart a five minute clip of her answer Dan because the interviews with my friend Elliot Bwick um and I think he did a good job sort of trying to press her on on these topics. It's a very thick issue. But I I think what she understands is she has a vested interest in advancing a definition that doesn't base British identity on the only firm foundations it has, which is the ethnic groups of being English, Scottish, Welsh, and Irish, and having inherited identity via ancestry.

[00:20:00]Because otherwise that would disqualify her from being the leader of the Conservative Party. And that's where she's wanted to be all her life. And she would also have to revisit the uncomfortable conversation that her parents gave birth to her on the NHS shortly before Margaret Thatcher repealed birthright citizenship and made it by inheritance. So essentially her her claim to being British is a legal fiction. And instead what she falls back on is abiding by norms and customs and culture. And okay, the problem with that definition is the prefix British or English exists before those norms, customs and culture because they are the property of and the invention of the British people, the English, Scott, Welsh and Irish. And until the last 30 years where amnesia has been induced, maybe we could say since 1948 with the British Nationality Act and and the Windr Rush, since this very small time period, amnesia has been induced about what a British person is. But throughout all of our history since we we had the the union of the British Isles of of Scotland, England, Wales, some of Ireland before then you were just referring to the English, Scottish, Welsh, Irish. And if you said that bloke is basically British, you know, the example that's always used is, you know, Ian Wright for example, you would say, oh, he's basically one of us. It's extending in moral consideration. The problem Kem is trying, the problem with Chemy's definition is she's trying to make it a moral normative category to say we can consider basically all nice people British, but she isn't willing to say Karma isn't British. She isn't willing to say Zach Blancansky isn't British. She wouldn't be willing if she got into government to repeal all of the British citizenships from basically the entirety of Bradford, Leester, Luton, who live in squested sectarian ethnic enclaves that hate the native population and aren't British in any of the meaningful senses that she's trying to put forward like culture and law. So if you aren't willing to enforce British values or British culture, all you're doing is you're disconnecting the culture and the values from the people to whom it is intuitive who have inherited it while doing nothing about the demographics that is displacing them and dispossessing them of their own country. So ultimately it's an unsustainable and quite subversive definition. I'm not trying to say chemist trying to do all those things, but in the final analysis it is that sort of thing. And so what we have to say is yes, being British is a matter of ancestry. That doesn't mean people of other ancestries are bad people. It does mean that a small minority of people can marry into the tribe, so to speak, and become one of our adopted family members. Chemy's married a Scottish man, has half half Scottish children. But just as you can't write yourself into someone else's will, you can't identify as being a member of the family indistinguishable from the inherited line. And so being British is about ethnicity, actually. And it's okay to say that. It's just a fact. It's no more evil to say that than it is to say you can't put on a dress and call yourself a woman. Something that Kem has been a champion for across her career and so you can't apply trans logic to ethnicity either. You're also not impressed with the Labour MP Jivon Sander who has gone on Politics Joe this week and actually said that real British culture Connor is multiculturalism. I'll I'll let you respond but first let's just look at what he said. Okay, half of you watching this are not subscribed to Dan Wooden Outspoken. And the best way you can support what we do is by hitting that subscribe button. It is completely free.

[00:23:15]And turn on the notification bell to be alerted to our new episodes. The Britain that was born in the Second World War, where people from across the empire came together at one moment to defeat fascism. And we didn't give up. We stood together in unity and we were determined and we had decency towards one another.

[00:23:32]That was Britain at its best.

[00:23:34]>> And that Britain has changed through time. That people like me can come here on your sofa to parliament. It doesn't matter what I look like. It's how I act.

[00:23:42]>> And that's what the Britain we have is.

[00:23:44]Those historic values in the Second World War, a culture that's evolved through time, partly pints, partly queuing politely, partly having a cup of tea, and different communities who come together, who all watch the England football team, who can do so whilst wearing an England football shirt, who can do so while also wearing hijab or not wearing a hijab. Those are things we can all do together. We shouldn't give into that division at all. Connor, why is he wrong?

[00:24:09]>> Okay. If the test is having a point, then let's get that person wearing the hijab to have a point, shall we, Dan?

[00:24:13]No. Okay. So, we're not we're not playing this game anymore. And I don't like that. Let me explain to you how your identity and culture actually includes me, sir. Routine that he also did way back when Matt Goodwin made a prat of himself running for Gorton and Denton. and he said, "Matt Goodwin and Tommy Robinson aren't really British.

[00:24:28]And all you needed to do is pause the screen at that point because I'm sorry, I'm not listening to an Indian man tell me what being British really is. Just as the Indians wouldn't listen to me if I went over to India and started telling them about what being Indian is, just as he doesn't believe that Joan Alumley and George Orwell and Rajard Kipling were Indian because they were born on Indian soil and brought up there. Right? We're not playing this game anymore. I know you're just being subversive. You're just trying to create space for yourself in our national politics and argue that you should actually be able to ascend the political ladder to enrich and empower yourself. Oh, and anyone who says maybe we shouldn't have random foreigners governing in their interest in our parliament, you get to call racist. This is just enforcing a set of rules that advantage yourself and your ethnic group to the disadvantage of the British people. And so I'm just not taking lectures on my identity and my ancestry and my culture from this person. And I don't care if I upset him and I don't care what names he calls me.

[00:25:23]And what I find really irritating Dan is he's from the same political wing and nation by the way that say Winston Churchill was an evil racist. He was genocidal and he wanted to conjure a typhoon to cause a Bengal famine. And then he wants to engage in this Paddington bear routine to say Britain was at its best when it was fighting fascism. Therefore, you can't have any hard borders around your own identity and you must import Infinity Indians.

[00:25:44]Everyone is sick of this because they see their high streets changed beyond recognition. They aren't going to forget Southport or the Manchester Arena bombing or the murder of Lee Riby whose anniversary is today or or the grooming gangs. And so I'm sorry, no amount of these these overtures made to biscuit tin bulldog nationalism will make them forget the atrocities that have been perpetrated against us by men largely from the region of the world where his ancestors come from. And so no thank you. We find it really condescending.

[00:26:12]We're not going to listen to it anymore and millions must leave.

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