Fast Five | The Past and the Curious Ep 5

Added: 2026-05-09

[00:00:00]Hello everyone.

[00:00:01]>> Hi.

[00:00:01]>> Welcome to past five.

[00:00:04]>> Past five. Uh 2011.

[00:00:07]>> Justin Lynn back again.

[00:00:08]>> This was insane. Four I feel like was testing ground for how far they could push this.

[00:00:15]>> Sure.

[00:00:15]>> And this was them really amping it up to like >> not 11, but like 20 >> to 2011.

[00:00:23]>> 2011. That's what I'm saying. There we go. So, first thing I noticed, once again, race off the bat, you got to go right into the action. It's an action movie. You got to do >> Well, they they did the jail Well, not jailbreak, the bus break.

[00:00:36]>> Yes, that's what I meant. Yeah.

[00:00:37]>> And then there's a little bit and then immediately another action scene.

[00:00:41]>> Yeah. Which is Now, this is interesting.

[00:00:43]Actually, now that I wrote this, I got to like think this again. There really weren't that many races in this movie.

[00:00:52]Yeah. cuz I was thinking about it and I was like, "This series is no longer about racing. It is It's really not.

[00:00:57]It's about cars, but it's not really about racing.

[00:01:00]>> It's about guys who have the ability to drive at a level no other person on planet Earth can utilizing that now beyond races." That's that's really what it becomes from now on. It isn't about uh oh, we have to run this race in order to make money or do this thing or beat this guy at a race. Yes. It literally is because we can drive fast. We can use our skills and our friends >> to do things. In this case, a crazy heist.

[00:01:27]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's less cuz at the beginning it was about racing. That's what it was. I mean, literally the first first movie racing, second movie using your racing skills to drive really fast.

[00:01:40]>> Third movie, we don't talk about that one.

[00:01:42]>> Third movie is back to racing though.

[00:01:43]>> Back to racing. It is. That's true. But it's it's less about racing, more about drifting. And then fourth movie, >> still kind of about racing. Well, >> uh, not really.

[00:01:54]>> Not really.

[00:01:54]>> No, I think we're we're done with that.

[00:01:56]Um, we are out of America. We are we're gone. So, I like that they show Breaking Dom out and then it's like boom, we're out of there, >> right?

[00:02:04]>> I wrote got to show Christ because you know you you don't know you're in Rio unless you show Christ the Redeemer.

[00:02:08]>> Show that multiple times just to keep people focused. We are in >> We are in Rio. That's true. Yes. Yes.

[00:02:15]Um, I liked your comparison with Bendeleros, like off the jump. It's It's the way it's filmed. And I said this during the the movie, but I >> said if you showed me this and said, "Yeah, this was made in like 2019, I would have believed you. It looks like a modern movie. We are no longer in that early 2000s era where everything was very Y2K." Like, we're we're firmly in the modern cinema. Oh, I wrote these guys are just criminals now. Like there's not there's no because I mean they were in the first movie but what they were doing was pretty >> pretty low stakes.

[00:02:52]>> I think like technically yes criminals.

[00:02:54]Yes, >> but they're really being set up as Robin Hoods. Like at one point when the uh the Brazilian cop she's like looking into their backstory. She's like, "Yeah, they stole gas for other people. They >> So yes, they 100% criminals."

[00:03:10]>> Yes. But they're setting them up as like you want to root for these guys because they go up. They're basically Dexter >> like a serial killer but he kills the bad serial killers.

[00:03:18]>> Yeah. But at the same time the the whole gas thing was nice, right? That was a very Robin Hoodesque thing. But in this they're stealing from the rich cool to give to themselves.

[00:03:31]>> Yes. Yes.

[00:03:32]>> Which I guess whatever. But you know >> this is it is it is strange that the way this movie like trajectory wise is is hey we came here to run >> but you know we'll never be able to truly run unless we get out of here >> and the only way to do that is to pay back this guy who in the beginning of the movie got mad cuz we took his car that had his chips in it.

[00:03:58]>> Yeah. the chips that showed the where all of his drug running business was.

[00:04:02]>> The implication I think is that we are to take away this is a good thing they did because this man ran all of Rio >> and was a bad man >> and so by killing him, taking his money, you have freed Rio from corruption, I believe is what happened.

[00:04:19]>> Except you just create a power vacuum and somebody's going to >> No, I don't think that I don't think that's it.

[00:04:22]>> No, no, that's not going to happen. None of None of those bad things will happen and only the good things will happen.

[00:04:27]None of this will come back to harm them. None of it.

[00:04:29]>> No, none. Um, so, uh, yes, I wrote these guys are just criminals now, which is fine, I guess, which is wild to think that this is the first movie with Brian where he's not a cop or working with law enforcement.

[00:04:44]>> You wonder what would happen. This, you were exactly right. There was going to be a guy chasing them because now they're criminals.

[00:04:50]>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, because now you think about it like he was a cop in the first movie. second movie kind of roped into helping the cops again. Fourth movie, he's on the FBI and he just gave all that up. But yeah, uh that first train heist scene >> was wild. That was insane cuz I guess we went from the breaking dom out of the bus >> into the sort of setup.

[00:05:12]>> Seeing Vince again being like, "We got to go do this thing if you want some money to live."

[00:05:17]>> I mentioned this, but I like that he had the scars on his arm from the wires in the last scene of this one. There's so This is a very fanervicey movie. I won't lie. I should have written that down, but I I was saying it the whole time.

[00:05:29]Very fanervicey.

[00:05:30]>> And I will say when when you think Fast and Furious and fan service, you usually think like, "Oh, it's the scene where they go to the thing and there's like 800 half- naked women." That's not the fan service you're talking about. This is actually like this is we're bring all the characters back. We're going to bring all the references. We're going to have all of it featured. We're going to have like every single main character from every movie appear in this.

[00:05:52]>> Pan's alive. Wait, I thought he died, but maybe he didn't. Like, it's a lot of that kind of thing. Um, >> yeah. Yeah. And we had a whole uh shocking ending that got you. And I'm so happy.

[00:06:04]>> We'll get there. We'll get to that. Um, I wrote full-on action heroes. They are just >> Yeah, >> they're just action heroes now. Cuz like in the first few cuz I got I feel like I have to compare it to the previous ones just because this is a retrospective. Um they're definitely like tough, but they're not superheroes. They're just they're people.

[00:06:26]>> There's a little bit of it in four. We get to see Dom and like >> Well, Dom taking the bullet I think was really the crossing the Rubicon here.

[00:06:34]>> 100%. Yes.

[00:06:35]>> Like there's no going back after that.

[00:06:37]Although I do like your analysis in that, and we mentioned this in the last one, where it's like, oh, he's he's uh jaded now because of of Lety, right? But this is a different level. Now they're just like beating off five guys at once.

[00:06:52]Not in that way. That's what happens.

[00:06:54]Not in that way. Watch a different cut.

[00:06:56]>> That's a different cut of the movie. Um, you know, they're they're like taking five guys at once. Let me rephrase that once again. They're they're um finishing off five guys at once.

[00:07:08]>> And uh it's insane. Like they're they're taking on gangs of dudes with guns and just doing all sorts of crazy [ __ ] Um and uh yeah, how everyone is jacked. I wrote that. Like you go back and you look at Vin Diesel in one and uh and I guess no in in four he's still pretty jacked. But like everyone's huge now.

[00:07:30]Yes. People are huge. They are gigantic.

[00:07:33]>> I don't remember Vince being as like buff as he was.

[00:07:36]>> He's not. He's still buff, but like he's not. He's like fit, but he's not huge.

[00:07:41]>> Well, actually, interestingly enough, the reverse thing happens with um Roman.

[00:07:48]Roman is in in in two Roman is featured with his shirt off multiple times, ripped to hell. In this one, >> yeah, >> shirt on all movie, right? Not like no real sign that he's ripped because what I think you noticed and because you kept saying it is that Roman is a funny character.

[00:08:05]>> Yeah.

[00:08:06]>> Roman and Tz are brought back to literally just basically be R2-D2 and 3PO for this entire franchise.

[00:08:12]>> That's true. That's true. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:08:14]Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:08:14]>> They will continue down this path >> for future movies as the two of them as like >> we're also here to be goofy.

[00:08:22]>> Yeah.

[00:08:22]>> Honestly love it. Big thing.

[00:08:23]>> Lud Lud Chris shows. He's funny. They were fun. There's a lot of funny moment.

[00:08:27]Tyrese, of course.

[00:08:28]>> That's what I'm saying.

[00:08:29]>> All funny characters. Yeah. Okay. So, as you said, I was like, well, somebody's going to have to >> bring him in because if he left the FBI, they call someone and it it's D. I wrote D Rock. I knew he was in it, but I didn't know the context of why he was there. I kind of figured that's why he was there, but he's here. Uh, his goatee. Not the move. Sorry, Dwayne, but that really is just not a a great look for you.

[00:08:54]He would have come in with like a full head of hair, too.

[00:08:57]>> That would have been insane.

[00:08:58]>> I would have loved that. But like uh you know, kind of like that military-esque buzzcut thing.

[00:09:03]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Also, um anytime I I say this a lot, and I said this when they had the the cop who was dressed like Kiki Michael Key, uh whenever he is a cop.

[00:09:15]>> Sure. The the Rock talks like a Kian Peele character where he's like he's like Ben out right now like find him right right this instant. What?

[00:09:26]>> He's all about business. He's that guy.

[00:09:27]Yeah.

[00:09:28]>> And they always have a cop character like that and he's so but I mean this isn't really like a deep movie or anything but at the same time it's very caricatury of like a >> the way a cop is in an action movie which is what he is. He's a cop in an action movie. And it's funny cuz his four guys all react to him the same way I think you are, which is like, >> what do what do you mean I have to repair this entire car?

[00:09:54]>> Do it again. You know, he's I didn't find anything. You know, it's like the very obvious thing that he pushes and the screen folds up. But we'll get to that. Um I wrote I'm making a team in quotation marks. That's so, you know, heist movie Oceans 11 kind of thing. Um >> everyone gets their moment to shine.

[00:10:10]>> Yeah. Everyone gets their moment.

[00:10:12]Everybody comes in. And that's when I was like, Han is still here. He keeps coming back. I mean, he's an awesome character. I'm glad that he's still alive, maybe. Um, but yeah, they just he came back.

[00:10:25]>> Um, and uh, let's see. I was surprised they brought Galado back cuz I felt like she was kind of just >> there. There served no purpose.

[00:10:34]>> Yeah, >> you're correct. Uh, and she kind of served no purpose in this. She had one literally one role >> to show up in random scenes and look beautiful, but also to walk up to the bad guy and get her ass grabbed so she could get the fingerprint. So, >> and >> yeah, >> be Hans's girlfriend.

[00:10:51]>> Yes. All right. Yeah. Oh, what was I going to say? Oh, right. Cuz he's like, you know, we got to we got to assemble the most elite team out there. We got to get everybody. And then it's like, what did she do? What was her she didn't really do anything in the last show that she is the one who knows the guns.

[00:11:07]That's what they're saying. They keep hammering home that like she was that into her character >> because again, she didn't have a character in the last movie. I still couldn't tell if she was the girlfriend or the secretary or like the boss like an under boss or she had no role except to be around and say a few lines >> and be hot.

[00:11:27]>> Yeah. I The oneliners are getting wild.

[00:11:29]like they were always kind of out there, but like this is this is getting to like, you know, Leon Kennedy levels of >> There is one rock oneliner coming up in a future movie. I don't remember which one it is, >> but I don't want to spoil it, but it's constantly in my brain as like one of the most ridiculous over-the-top oneliners I've ever heard.

[00:11:48]>> And that's where we're like, >> you're right to pick up on oneliners because they don't stop it.

[00:11:52]>> Love it. I said way less product placement. But then I changed that and I said I think the product placement is way less obvious now. So we still got you know the car brands which are preached prominently in the center of the screen which I'm sure is a thing but like no crashing into the Pepsi billboard. No hiding the tracker in the not can of NS energy. No. Uh, >> I wonder if that's because since we're in Brazil, any sponsorships, and I use air quotes sponsorships >> or branded stuff would have been Brazilian and potentially we wouldn't have recognized it. I don't know.

[00:12:32]>> But this is I mean I know >> they did a lot of city shots, >> but they do they did a lot of um product placement stuff in in um Tokyo Drift.

[00:12:41]>> True. But a lot of that was also you're in the middle of Tokyo and there's just a lot of billboards everywhere, >> I guess. But >> you're right there. At towards the end, like the last 20 minutes, the product placement became very obvious.

[00:12:54]>> Well, it's the Under Armour shirt that got me where that actually made me change this cuz The Rock very prominently has an Under Armour logo on his shirt.

[00:13:02]>> And you only see that after he takes off his like flack jacket or whatever.

[00:13:05]>> Yeah. Yeah. So, it's there. And like they were using a a MacBook, right? You know, >> the year one logo again.

[00:13:11]>> Yeah. Exactly. But it's it's there. And also another big one >> and NOS >> and NOS. Another big one is the car branding stuff because you know how when they show the shots inside the car, you can see the logos of all the the seat belts, the racing seats and stuff like that. We did not see nearly as much of that or at least it didn't ping in my brain because there just weren't as many internal shots of the cars like of them because a lot of the earlier movies is them sitting in the cars and talking or like >> being ready to race.

[00:13:46]>> I think it's cuz the cars are the name of the show early on. Yeah.

[00:13:49]>> And now people are there for the characters and they care about the cars less. So, we actually somehow >> get more scenes with the characters working on cars in this movie because they're doing character work while they're working on the cars >> instead of in previous movies where >> it was just to establish like these guys could work on cars.

[00:14:06]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so yeah, that was that was an interesting change.

[00:14:10]Uh, it it definitely was a welcome change because I find that the pro the heavy product placement takes me out of the movie a little bit and but that's me because I'm noticing it because I'm writing this stuff down. So maybe if somebody just is doesn't care, they wouldn't notice it. But for me, I liked that. I liked that there was not >> Pepsi in my f or Corona is the other one. But we did I didn't see a single Corona. I wonder if there is something about the fact that because you mentioned I think last time that the fourth movie cost like I don't know 50 million to make and then made like 380 or something like that.

[00:14:45]>> Yeah. It was insane.

[00:14:46]>> So money was made.

[00:14:47]>> Yes.

[00:14:47]>> And I feel like because as we're discovering Vin Diesel and his family are basically funding this entire endeavor.

[00:14:54]>> Yes.

[00:14:55]>> Maybe you just don't need the placement.

[00:14:57]Maybe you got the millions where you're like f it. I don't care. That is I think you know you you do your few first few to make the money then you make the money then you do what you want right and I hey hey more power to him you know and I would not be surprised if this movie cost over hund00 million to make but it was it was great it was it was I think a lot more fun and the previous ones were fun but this one was insane.

[00:15:22]It has a uh we're gonna try to tell you a story, but no one here is gonna take it >> seriously.

[00:15:30]>> It's not a drama. It's like an adventure. It feels like >> the adventure movies of the 80s.

[00:15:38]>> Um I wrote Dom and the cop lady whose name I don't remember. uh is a really interesting parallel of Mia and Brian because you know we have Mia falling in love with Brian and then he was the cop at the time and then now Dom falling for the Brazilian cop where she's the cop and then he you know so I thought that was a really cool parallel >> and they both give up law enforcement for the other person >> for the criminals.

[00:16:05]Um, yeah. So, that was an interesting parallel. And then at the end, we find out that they do end up together, which is nice.

[00:16:11]>> Um, >> but complicated, >> but complicated. Uh, more working on cars. I wrote that there is a lot more because in the last one, there wasn't hardly any, right? There was there wasn't >> really any at all. It was mostly just the story. But now, we have the character work while they're working on the cars.

[00:16:30]>> It gives them time to, oh, cars are still in this movie.

[00:16:33]>> Yeah. But we need to have a talk.

[00:16:34]>> Yeah. And but you know, I think it's shown but not really because in the previous ones they talk to specifics, right? They talk specifics of the cars.

[00:16:46]You're like, "Oh, this car has a blah blah blah." You know, this car is, oh wow, they got this, it's got that, it's got this. That's never brought up in this.

[00:16:52]>> That's not brought up in this. They are working on them. So, it's like a middle ground, right? Whereas in four, there was none. there was hardly any if at all of them working on the cars and they didn't talk about it. But now they're working on the cars but they're not really talking about it. They're not really like they're not doing the jargon stuff which is fine. It's fine. It doesn't >> because it's not the first couple were for car people.

[00:17:16]>> Yes.

[00:17:17]>> And now this is a general audience action >> action movie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:17:20]Yeah. I agree with you. I think that's a good assessment. Um family exclamation point. Now we're getting into the family, you know, we're gearing family three times in 5 minutes.

[00:17:31]>> Yeah, it's true.

[00:17:32]>> And then he dropped a me familiar.

[00:17:33]>> Oh, I should have mentioned uh there's something I forgot at the beginning. I was trying to keep a death toll. Um I stopped at seven and that was in like the first 15.

[00:17:41]>> The opening scene a people are dying left and right in this. The guy gets like is decapitated later on.

[00:17:50]>> The last action scene has I'm going to say at least 100 deaths.

[00:17:54]>> I should I should have counted that up cuz it was a lot. There was there were people there were people dying off screen like that town destroyed completely obliterated completely. A lot of people a lot of people dying. Um yeah but fam now we're getting into because you know when people think of Fast Furious say you know family I live my life quarter mile time but really in the first one family wasn't a it was like offhandly mentioned you know and it's sort of like oh family is important to Dom but it wasn't like a joke. Now it's like you're part of the fam family, you know, it's all and I think with uh Mia >> being pregnant, it's mo more literally about family now. You know, I'm not really trying to over analyze this. Oh, I did say uh lots of characters drinking beer. There's a lot of shots or when characters are idle, they just have a beer or they're drinking something. This is it's this is kind of like the proto version of what all the group scenes become. There is from this point on >> scenes where instead of a party like at a party house or whatever it is the characters have gathered to drink and commiserate >> before andor after a thing it happens I think like once per movie.

[00:19:09]>> Mhm. or they have dinner together, right? And they have like, "All right, I get to say grace." Or they like There's always a scene now where someone's cooking out.

[00:19:17]>> Right. Right. Right. Right. Yeah.

[00:19:18]>> Just like how there's scenes where Dom's like, "These are my people. We're in Rio."

[00:19:23]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He did have a little more crowd work in this one. I was going to say that cuz like he didn't have it in the last one, but that there's a reason for that.

[00:19:28]>> I think this is my baseline for all Fast and Furious movies is that I think of this one when I think of the tropes, and I feel like that's cuz they all really formulate here. Yes. Okay, that's fair enough. I said the character work is better, which it is. Um the characters are actually really kind of fun and engaging and like they were fun in the previous movies, but they felt a little set piece. Like they were just sort of there to be there. Uh but now they're actually like fun. The the writing is fun. The jokes are funny. Like there's a couple good bits in there. Um >> yeah, definitely. And also because the crew is made up of characters that you know, their characters are established, so they don't have to spend the time getting you to know them as much, right?

[00:20:13]And so then they can just go right into doing their scenes, which is fun, right?

[00:20:18]And uh speaking as an as I don't want to sound too pretentious, but as somebody who's played a recurring character in something, it's fun when you just get to drop in >> and like you don't have to worry about introducing the character. You don't have to worry about exposition. You can kind of just like start into the fun stuff. And there's a lot of that here.

[00:20:36]And I could tell that they were having fun with that. So that's kind of cool.

[00:20:40]Oh, I wrote two Hulks beating the hell out of each other. Uh, The Rock and Vin Diesel fighting is like it was in that's like Indiana Jones level of punches, you know, like the gunshots going off when they punch. Yeah. Throwing each other through a wall. Um, throwing through a window. Uh, I mean, we that goes back to their full-on action heroes now, right?

[00:21:03]You know, and I mean, this is two huge jacked dudes beating each other.

[00:21:06]>> And I also think they understood that from the moment you saw a trailer where it was like the rocks hunting Vin Diesel. Mhm.

[00:21:14]>> Everyone in that theater needed to see that scene.

[00:21:16]>> Like it was just needed. So the fact that they took it to a place that was so over the top like they went through walls.

[00:21:23]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They punched he did throw him through a wall. That that is true.

[00:21:26]>> Multiple walls.

[00:21:27]>> And he was going to There was there was almost a repeat and I I say this again just cuz I think about it and how well he took it was Vin Diesel slamming Paul Walker into the ground in the last movie on the concrete floor. It was the same thing to The Rock. Um but yeah, like we are and this ties into many things. I wrote this next one. This was about the the next scene that that uh sort of the more ending area, but um we are firmly in the realm of fantasy now. Like it's not even like we we were already kind of there, you know, but I I mean even in two the ejection seat is like goofy fantasy.

[00:22:05]>> Driving the car onto the boat.

[00:22:06]>> Yeah. But I mean that's like the end, right? like he drives a car into the boat, but like nothing happens after that. In this, like compare that to driving the armored truck through the wall to get to the vault to pull the vault out of the wall. Like that's we're firmly beyond anything.

[00:22:30]>> Comic book movie territory.

[00:22:31]>> Yes, exactly. We are we are firmly but you know you think about it like 2011 comic book movies had just started to have their renaissance with Iron Man in 2008 right so cuz the previous one came out in 2009 so it was probably already done at the time that Iron Man and then like more comic book stuff was coming out so now we are like they're like oh yeah well we can do that too like we can do the crazy [ __ ] too so you know pulling the bank out of the wall and and um you know these crazy fights and way more gunfights and shooting a bazooka at an armored truck and all that stuff, you know, >> and also the fact that the Rock's team are like experts. They're the guys who hunt people and they are so good. They all get brutally murdered. Yeah.

[00:23:18]>> And Brian and Vin, they just grab the guns and just don't worry, we'll save you.

[00:23:24]>> It's like, wait a minute, you guys are gun experts now, too. Maybe Okconor I can see. Yeah.

[00:23:29]>> But Vin Diesel has only ever flashed guns really and been like, "You can't believe you betrayed me, Brian."

[00:23:36]>> Yeah.

[00:23:36]>> Other than that, he's not like a gun guy.

[00:23:38]>> Yeah.

[00:23:38]>> In fact, in most movies, he kills people with cars.

[00:23:41]>> Mhm.

[00:23:41]>> But in this one, >> Yeah.

[00:23:43]>> murderous.

[00:23:43]>> I Oh, another thing I wanted to mention, and you said this during the watch through is when they win that car, the the blue car, he's like it that's a call that that is definitely a a call back to the earlier movies where they would race for cars. Yeah, >> they would race for the slips, but we don't even see it. We don't even see the race. They just cut it out.

[00:24:03]>> Yeah. He's like, because the assumption is they're going to win.

[00:24:06]>> Oh, yeah. Well, of course, >> cuz they're the best racers. But and I think that's kind of fun that they did that cuz it was absolutely a subverted expectation.

[00:24:13]>> Yeah, 100%.

[00:24:14]>> Where they were like, you who cares?

[00:24:16]It's just a race, which is wild considering where we came from.

[00:24:19]>> Yeah. What the foundation of this entire thing was, it was all about it was the race wars. That was the whole thing is they were going to go win the the race war. But now it's more about the crime.

[00:24:29]It's about where they introduce the bad guy, the uh I don't remember his name, the villain um Reyes, something like that.

[00:24:38]>> I think so.

[00:24:39]>> Yeah. Uh right away. And I said that in um Tokyo Drift when the Yakuza boss shows up. I was like, "This is cool. I wish it was more like this." And they're like, "Ah, we got you. Now, we're just going to introduce the bad guy and the c and he's a criminal syndicate sort of overlord guy right away. And here's his deal and here's the stakes.

[00:25:00]>> And unlike previous movies where the plot gets a little complicated.

[00:25:05]>> Yeah.

[00:25:05]>> This one literally was they went Vince said, "Hey man, come work with me on this job.

[00:25:11]>> Something's up with this job. That's so weird."

[00:25:13]>> Yeah.

[00:25:13]>> The bad guys like, "You took one of my cars, so if you don't give me that car back, I'm going to kill everyone." And then they make their escape. Yeah.

[00:25:21]>> And discover that the reason he wants the car is because it has all the data.

[00:25:26]>> And then that's that's it. They're like, "Okay, this guy is a bad man and he's going to keep coming for us.

[00:25:34]>> So the only way to stop him >> Yeah.

[00:25:36]>> take all his money, baby. That's it.

[00:25:38]That's the plot."

[00:25:39]>> I should have You're You're right. I should have wrote this down, too, because, you know, if we're firmly in the realm of fantasy, which which I wrote, uh, the opening jump off the cliff should have been the first, cuz that completely subverted my expectation. I thought Paul Walker was going to jump into the car and they were going to like stop right at the edge, but nah, they just sent it right over into the the gorge, which was crazy. Um, yeah. No. And and you know, I said it once again during the watch through is the biggest jump that Brian O'Connor makes in the fourth one is that off the balcony into the the dumpster to follow the guy, but this is now we're just making like 200 foot drops and taking it like it's nothing.

[00:26:22]>> There is a difference, I think, between the car stunts we saw in four. Yeah.

[00:26:28]>> And and there were some physical stunts, like a few.

[00:26:30]>> Yeah. But most of it was car stunts and that they could survive those car stunts. Yes. Like they knew enough about cars to somehow magically brace the impact or whatever.

[00:26:40]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:26:41]>> And they even used the car to kill one of the bad guys at the end.

[00:26:44]>> Yeah. That's true.

[00:26:44]>> And in this one they're like cars are precious.

[00:26:47]>> Yeah.

[00:26:48]>> And we're not trying to destroy our damn cars.

[00:26:50]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:26:50]>> But yeah, >> we will destroy our bodies.

[00:26:52]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll destroy our bodies before we destroy the cars.

[00:26:55]No, this was a fun this was a really fun uh the practical versus CGI is a lot better now. Got so many >> See at the end it's so hard to tell what is real with that safe.

[00:27:04]>> The vault is a lot of times CGI, but in fact I would say most of the time it's CGI.

[00:27:09]>> It has to be. You can't I mean like they're not driving a vault around.

[00:27:12]>> Well, no, but it could be something. It could be like a um like a prop vault.

[00:27:18]>> But like when it hits >> buildings and trees and like >> and this is 2011. This is this is 15 years ago. So, like it's pretty good.

[00:27:26]>> It's still pretty good. I was impressed.

[00:27:28]Um, and there's there are a lot of I think practical car effects, too. Like the cars getting wrecked and stuff like that. That's all practical.

[00:27:33]>> You could see when they would do a cut to the practical.

[00:27:36]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:27:37]>> When Vin Diesel starts using it as like a flail, >> like a weapon. Yeah. That's >> I love that scene. So good. But also insane that it's like the only way I could use this as a flail.

[00:27:47]>> Yeah.

[00:27:48]>> NS.

[00:27:48]>> No. Yeah. He's got the NOS button. It has to have the NOS button. Um, no. and and then uh it's just it's not where I was expecting it to go at all cuz I had a few ideas and I thought it was going to be more like a race, you know, like at the end of two where they get the money and then they have to they drive away, but no, it's more like it's I mean, it just went to a place that I did not even think that it could go, but I'm happy it did.

[00:28:17]>> Yeah. They wrap it up with the rock story line is all right, well, all my guys are dead. I'm going to get revenge.

[00:28:22]He caps the bad guy.

[00:28:24]>> I love that there's just no thought there. He just shoots him on the ground dying. Um, >> and but he he has his sort of like, I'm not going to chase you. I'm going to give you 24 hours.

[00:28:34]>> Mhm.

[00:28:34]>> The fun thing about it is the established >> narrative now moving ahead is >> all of our main characters have money.

[00:28:42]>> Yes.

[00:28:43]>> Money is no longer an issue.

[00:28:45]>> Their lives are good. They are fine.

[00:28:48]>> But >> they don't need money. They are wanted criminals and they do have somebody >> interested in catching them.

[00:28:54]>> You got a sneak peek of what's to come because now they have everything I wanted and Mia is pregnant and they have all this stuff going down.

[00:29:01]>> Mhm.

[00:29:02]>> We cut back post credits >> to the customs officer from two >> from two who I didn't recognize but when you said it I did recognize >> coming in to let Hobbs know. We did find people who were in Europe robbing cars, but the people robbing cars are not dominant team.

[00:29:22]>> Do and all them, right?

[00:29:23]>> It's another team.

[00:29:24]>> Uhhuh.

[00:29:25]>> And this team is Lety.

[00:29:28]>> I I guess death is not final. Death is ne death is never final in Fast and the Furious. Sometimes you're just too furious to die and too fast.

[00:29:35]>> Here's what I'll say to you, >> okay?

[00:29:37]>> And I think this is a fun setup.

[00:29:39]>> Okay.

[00:29:40]>> Not once did you actually see Lety die.

[00:29:43]Every time they were doing a thing, there was a flash of white light.

[00:29:47]The scene where they show Letty getting shot, it's in Dom's head. That's what he thinks happens.

[00:29:51]>> Okay. But you see Han die. We saw him blow up.

[00:29:56]>> I don't know, man.

[00:29:57]>> All right. What What were your What were your thoughts on the movie? That That's kind of everything that I had written down.

[00:30:02]>> As a fan of this one, it was nice to watch it again. It is >> just a treat. It holds up really well. I think there's a lot of uh stuff that just happens in this movie.

[00:30:14]>> Mhm.

[00:30:15]>> But that's all of them where it's things like, wait, so we're going to make a power vacuum in the crime scene here in Rio because this man wanted his chip back so badly.

[00:30:30]So, we're going to rob him so that we don't have to run anymore. Mhm.

[00:30:35]>> But to do that, we're going to have to call in all of our friends, >> right?

[00:30:39]>> We're going to have to to destroy half a city. Like, there's a lot going on for what is really an incredibly simple plan that starts because >> almost a whim.

[00:30:49]>> Yeah. It's just just why not, you know?

[00:30:52]I do I would love to see the news broadcast after that whole downtown thing where it's like the city of downtown Rio has been ravaged by two Ford Mustangs pulling a bank vault attached by tow cables.

[00:31:07]>> That was that was insane. So, from the standpoint of a standalone movie, I don't know that I would consider this a like great standalone movie, >> but it's a fantastic get everyone together Avengers style.

[00:31:22]>> Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:31:23]>> And and so cuz the bad guy, his motivations aren't very clear. He's just like my money.

[00:31:29]>> He's a bad guy.

[00:31:30]>> And their motivations to take it are kind of like, well, we need money to run and I never want to run again, so we're going to steal this guy's money cuz he's a bad man. Mhm.

[00:31:38]>> That's it.

[00:31:38]>> Yep.

[00:31:39]>> And then the rest of it is it's so fun to see our favorite characters together and interacting and I love this. That's it. That's the movie.

[00:31:47]>> Mhm.

[00:31:48]>> And I still love it.

[00:31:50]>> I still think it's great.

[00:31:52]>> Yeah, this is definitely the best one so far. And I that's what I said about the last one. The last one I said I think four was the best one so far. This one improves on it in every Oh, another interesting thing that we should talk about is I don't know if the movie subtitles were messed up or something, but we couldn't understand.

[00:32:07]>> We had an experience that was probably different than a theater experience, I think.

[00:32:11]>> Yeah. I don't know because the subtitles were not on the scenes where they were speaking Portuguese or Spanish, right?

[00:32:17]So, I did not understand what they were saying. But I kind of like that personally because >> it's not hard to figure out what they're talking about >> because that's more immersive, right?

[00:32:27]Because like and I I love that actually because it's like, oh, if you were in this scene and you didn't speak that language, you wouldn't know what they were talking about, but you can kind of infer what they're talking about.

[00:32:39]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like this a great example is the scene where they go into the bathroom that they blew up.

[00:32:44]>> Yeah. And he's like, "Oh, this smells terrible." But like I couldn't understand what he was saying, but obvious whatever deal with it, right? Like, you know, I think that's sort of what he was saying, but like that's kind of >> awesome. I kind of like that. So, it was great. Yeah.

[00:33:01]>> Even the scene where the bad guy uh bludgeon. Shout out shout out to my doughy.

[00:33:07]>> The doughy goons.

[00:33:08]>> I love doughy goons.

[00:33:09]>> Doy goons out there.

[00:33:10]>> Uh yeah, but the doughy goon got bl like bloped in the head with like a like a paper weight or something or something.

[00:33:16]Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:33:17]>> And uh yeah, that scene we didn't have any subtitles for that. And I still was like, "Yeah, now I know what's going on."

[00:33:23]>> Yeah. It's awesome, man.

[00:33:24]>> So, that was that was cool.

[00:33:25]>> This was Yeah, this was a great This was a great time. I mean, it was silly, goofy, fun, but like overall it was it was pretty cool. Lots of Vince died, which I guess glossed over because I was writing something down.

[00:33:37]>> You were literally looking at his dead body during that scene where he was like, they were like, "Your boy died, Dom." the fact you're like, "Wait, Vince," >> which sucks, too, because he was right about everything, right? Like, and he brings it up and they they all hate him cuz like, let's be real, he's an [ __ ] >> He's an [ __ ] Yeah, >> he's a super [ __ ] But he was like, "I was right about him being a cop, blah, blah, blah." And they're like, "I don't know. You're being too, you know, you're too cautious, Vince." And it's like, no, he was right about everything.

[00:34:12]>> Yes. And then he unceremoniously gets shot off >> and we see him be like, "Take care of my kid.

[00:34:19]>> I named him after you."

[00:34:21]>> Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:34:23]>> And then he dies.

[00:34:24]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:34:25]>> And that's money at the end. His share goes to his wife.

[00:34:29]>> His wife and kid. Yeah.

[00:34:30]>> Robin Hood, baby.

[00:34:31]>> Yeah. Right. That's true. Um, no, that was that was uh that was something that I must have glossed over, but it was I do remember it now. Um, yeah. I don't I don't know what else did you have to say? This was great. This one was definitely the most fun for sure.

[00:34:46]>> Yeah, I uh I like all the stunts. I think that was from moment one. The stunt where they flip the the bus.

[00:34:54]>> That's insane. But I don't understand how that happened.

[00:34:57]>> I guess cuz he was already trying to turn and swerve past. Look, I don't know. You're It made it look like the car flipped it, but also the bus was was like swerving. Yeah.

[00:35:09]>> So maybe that did it and it just like nudged over the edge >> cuz Yeah. My >> It looked cool though >> cuz most of the stunts in this movie are insane. But they do it in a way where it's like okay they'd never be in this situation. But if they did maybe it would kind of happen like that, right?

[00:35:28]Like the car going over the edge or >> But I mean like they still we still exist in a world. I know when we were watching you mentioned like oh this could all be prevented if they had electro harpoons. Yeah.

[00:35:38]>> We exist in a world where >> a truck exists >> that can pull alongside a train.

[00:35:46]>> Yeah.

[00:35:46]>> Cut out a perfect >> square >> size for a car.

[00:35:50]>> Nobody notices this.

[00:35:51]>> And then you hook the truck onto the cars and then through piston power or torque or something yank a car off a train sideways.

[00:36:03]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:36:04]>> Onto the car. then lower the back of the car so a driver can drive the car off the truck into the desert and get away.

[00:36:11]That machine is an insane machine.

[00:36:14]>> Yeah.

[00:36:15]>> The fact that that exists is like you literally just hook it onto the tire.

[00:36:19]>> Plasma cutters.

[00:36:20]>> Yes. You hook it up like the There was literally a plasma cutter fight scene on it.

[00:36:25]>> It's true. That part was pretty sick though.

[00:36:27]>> That's what I'm saying. Like they from moment one they're like, "No, no, no. We saw you like when we flipped that uh oil tanker. It's cool. We got you.

[00:36:35]>> Yeah. Yeah. But I guess like I don't know just because like I didn't understand how they flipped the bus. But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It was sick in that side. And surprisingly no fatalities.

[00:36:43]>> They had to say it. They had to say it on the news. No one died >> because our heroes don't kill civilians.

[00:36:49]Only >> Well, no, hold on. They make they make they make the statement.

[00:36:55]>> We have to talk about an uncomfortable truth about that. But you finish that.

[00:36:58]Finish that thought. What I'm saying is I know in reality innocent people died for sure.

[00:37:05]>> But the way they set up in the movie is when they break him out of the the prison bus, >> everyone survives.

[00:37:12]>> Yes.

[00:37:13]>> Later on when they're going up against the cops, they make a thing to like they say immediately every corrupt c a corrupt cop in the city is after you. So it isn't the good cops, it's the corrupt cops. parade of bad cops.

[00:37:29]>> So, it's fine that they all brutally died.

[00:37:31]>> Uh-huh.

[00:37:32]>> That's what it's saying.

[00:37:33]>> I Okay, so I have to bring up something and I should have brought this up at the top of the podcast when because it's the first scene in the movie when they're breaking him out of prison, the prison bus, right? So, we know Dom's committed.

[00:37:45]He's done some bad stuff in his day, but you know, really got a heart of gold.

[00:37:49]Jesse, >> not everyone on that bus was completely innocent and they broke them all out of prison.

[00:37:55]>> No, no, no. They only broke out Dom.

[00:37:57]Okay.

[00:37:58]>> Everyone else is is >> sat there nicely while the police showed up and brought them back.

[00:38:03]>> Yes.

[00:38:04]>> But but can I tell you something? Can I tell you what you're not thinking about?

[00:38:07]The one thing you're not thinking about.

[00:38:08]>> Yeah. Right.

[00:38:09]>> When that bus flipped.

[00:38:10]>> Yeah.

[00:38:11]>> The driver was probably all beat up.

[00:38:13]>> Yeah.

[00:38:14]>> The other inmates probably all beat up.

[00:38:16]Covered in blood.

[00:38:17]>> Yeah.

[00:38:18]>> Dom not touched.

[00:38:19]>> That's true.

[00:38:20]>> You know that you know that would be the case.

[00:38:22]>> Dom has flipped in so many car. The only time we've ever seen him truly hurt was the end of the first movie.

[00:38:29]>> That is true. This is >> other than that, he does not take damage.

[00:38:33]>> Even after getting shot, getting beat up by the rock, >> he got hit with a crowbar in this one and took it >> and he just took that [ __ ] >> So, we'll see. We'll see what happens.

[00:38:44]>> Oh, I'm I'm interested.

[00:38:45]>> Yeah, I am interested to see number six.

[00:38:46]>> I wonder I wonder what this crew is about.

[00:38:49]>> Why do you keep saying this, Jesse?

[00:38:52]>> I don't know. He's leading me on. I almost said chat. Chat, he's leading me on. Chat, >> why would I? I would never. I would never.

[00:38:59]>> All right. I'm excited. Thanks. Thanks for having me yet again.

[00:39:02]>> Let's see it for fast six.

[00:39:03]>> What's What's this next one called?

[00:39:05]Because this was this was fast five.

[00:39:06]>> This we we did this last time and I've already forgotten what they're called.

[00:39:11]>> Cuz wait, this last one was Fast and Furious.

[00:39:14]>> That was four, >> right?

[00:39:15]>> This is Fast Five.

[00:39:17]>> It is. Okay. Uh uh Cohen Fast and Furious franchise. Okay. It is. Next up, we have It's just called Fast and Furious 6.

[00:39:29]>> Interesting. I keep thinking about the Japanese one and I think it's called like Yeah, I think it's called Wild Speed. Yeah. Uh like Europe >> Adventure Euro Adventure. Yeah.

[00:39:39]>> Yeah. I started I I was playing horsey game recently and I started naming my uh horses after the Japanese term for Oh, >> yes. So, it's like wild speed uh super combo. Yeah. So, I started >> this one was supermax, by the way. Wild Speed Super Max, which I think because the last one's called Wild Speed Max, I think that's exactly the right way to describe this.

[00:39:56]>> Hobs, Hobs and Shaw is super combo, by the way. Okay, so >> Tokyo Drift, Fast and Furious, Fast Five, Fast and Furious 6, all Justin Lynn.

[00:40:08]>> Yes.

[00:40:09]>> All All Justin Lynn. So then um we we got one more Justin Lynn film >> and then we we're on to somebody else.

[00:40:16]But no, coming from Tokyo Drift, this is I'm I'm impressed from where he's gone from that to now. This is great. It's awesome.

[00:40:26]>> Can't wait to see what happens next.

[00:40:27]>> We'll see you in the next one. Bye.

[00:40:29]>> Bye.