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MIC CHEQUE PODCAST | Episode 380 | Growth hormones
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Welcome [music] back to the >> Now when you watch it, you understand.
>> What up? My name is Chaxi the mastermind. Your main guy the Lord the Toxic is around. The whole gang is around episode 380. We >> check.
Hey, bro. I've missed yapping. I'm not going to lie.
>> Two weeks off.
>> Nah, it wasn't two weeks.
>> It's been two weeks literally. It's been two recordings. Yeah.
>> It's been two weeks.
>> It's been two weeks, bro.
>> So, just last week?
>> No.
>> No.
>> So, we recorded We recorded the week before last week. No.
>> No.
>> We recorded the other week.
>> Are you for real?
>> I'm so serious.
>> Two weeks.
>> It's been It's literally been two weeks.
>> Yeah.
>> But, you know, there's checkmates who maybe don't even know.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. If you don't know, we both [laughter] recorded took a break.
>> No, but I feel like they know because um the episode that just dropped, we were talking about um >> France and Yeah. So, yeah, they Yeah.
>> Okay. Some might have those who don't have interest in football cuz normally check us we normally take a break in December. So, this year we had a media break and then we'll take one in December. Anyway, what have you guys been up to, bro?
>> Was it was it a media break?
Why?
>> I I planned my vibes around a [laughter] [laughter] >> Yeah. What are you guys up to, >> Sadam? Other than lying. What have you been up to?
>> Yeah. Oh, and also they don't lie a lot in Europe, but we'll get into that.
>> Please. Other [clears throat] than [laughter] what have you been up to? Uh, honestly, honestly, he's very [clears throat] rich. YOU CAN'T START, [laughter] YOU CAN'T intend to lie and begin by saying honestly.
Maybe me I was looking for MOS.
>> Did you find?
>> No.
Where is Mos?
>> I'll give you a mass update.
>> Actually, wait. I have two announcements then we get into that. Um >> so one we we know we have our Spotify hangout this this weekend, Saturday on 25th.
>> Um for those who don't have tickets, there's still a few tickets I think left. I hope by now when you're listening or hearing there's going to be tickets. Um it begins it's a day hangout begins at uh 10:00 in the morning and then it runs till late. Uh so if you want to get tickets um just go to Spotify Africa or go to Spotify Grezy Tunes link in their bio and you'll get tickets. I think I also add a link in the description here.
>> Uh so get those tickets and then see you there. So that reminds me. So Mo M was supposed to be back today actually.
>> Mhm.
um spoke to him on even now we was were speaking but we spoke like in length on Saturday or Friday I think one of those yeah and bro he looks better if you look at Mo you're like ah you know the glow is back um he's he's been home you know getting a bit of home care as well he was supposed to have finished doing his tests yesterday but then the tests that were not completed reasons are very funny but those reasons you wait until he comes back >> so he is in the hospital now as we speak. Uh, but he should cuz he just texted me to update me that he's done the first round of tests >> and then he has more in the afternoon and then he'll be done. So, Mo will be back on 25th at the Spotify hangout.
But, you know, the boy is back.
>> Um, then November 11th >> cuz we went live with announcement online. It's November 7th.
>> See, >> November 7th, sorry. Cuz we went live with announcement online. At the time we had pre-recorded all those episodes that you're talking about. So it was we were not able to announce it officially. Our final Nairobi hangout is happening November November 7th. What is this 11 thing about in my head bro?
>> September 11.
>> Well maybe did I keep seeing 11 in Europe? Anyway, so November 7th [laughter] if you don't have your Alibad tickets I ask you to kindly get those tickets in advance. I think this is going to definitely going to be our biggest hang out so far. Yeah, cuz we've sold quite a lot of Alibaba tickets. Um the reason why you should get those tickets in advance. It helps with planning.
>> We can gauge how many people expecting so it helps with selection of venue and all those things. So please if you are thinking of getting those tickets, get those tickets um at Alibad. Um the reality is Alibad ends and then we do advance >> and then after advance what do people do?
>> No, there's I think two tiers. It was Alibad and then you do advance and then you do regular and then you do gates >> advance regular.
>> So every month 500. So Alibad is 1500.
Uh next month it goes to >> 2 G's. The other month it goes to 25 and then at the gate 3K.
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>> Now, yes, for the guys who are not in Europe, what's up?
>> Back to the law.
>> Yes. Honestly, [laughter] you see, honestly, you see, let me even save you.
Let me save you. Let me play you one clip as Saddam thinks of how to get this lie. So, this is >> Put your light.
>> Yeah. Marinates.
>> It's it's it's so simple. We were supposed to meet me and the lovely Mar.
>> Now, she even gets a compliment.
>> Buttering me up. What do I look like?
[laughter] >> Of course. Please. Say that again.
>> Oh god.
We needed to like bond >> then and then >> so why were you guys meeting where?
>> Let me just break it down. So the agreement was we were supposed to meet for pard literally that week after we were done recording we're supposed to link up on Thursday right >> so Thursday I called Saddam right early like around 10 11 I'm like Saddam are we still meeting up today you know I'm actually shopping I'm going to I'm going for a wedding in Garisa I'm like it just hit you today you're wedding tomorrow in Garisa anyway cool he's like so let >> the wedding in Garisa sounds Not [laughter] literally. So he's like, "Oh, actually now let's push it to um you let's push it to when Monday.
>> Let's push it to Monday."
>> I didn't know you guys are going to Let's push it to Monday.
>> Report Monday. [laughter] I call Saddam.
Saddam p.
[laughter] [screaming] Oh, I don't know what you're doing. I need to do WHAT YOU WANT.
>> [laughter] >> I'M LIKE, he's like, "So, let's do this.
Let's move it to Wednesday. In fact, this this place is nice. We'll even grab a lunch. We'll do a what? We'll do a Okay." He's like, "In fact, I'm even sending you the pin." NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. OKAY. Did Sadam send the pin?
[clears throat] Did Sadam ever reach out again? Guys, this the first time I'm seeing sadam seh [laughter] cancel me. I deserve to be cancelled.
That was that was disgusting.
>> Very. I agree.
>> Wait, you actually go after that?
>> I forgot. Mimi. I have bad memory.
>> I'm working on it though.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, I realized people in Europe don't forget a lot to be honest.
[laughter] >> I'm just saying.
>> Your first time going >> Europe. Yes.
>> Oh, really?
>> Europe. Yes. First time.
>> Wow.
>> I've never been >> first Korea.
>> Firstly to go to the banu.
>> I'll tell you about it. That's not the most interesting part of it. Anyway, so where were you? You just forgot.
>> Yeah, I was just Yeah, I forgot.
>> Did you remember at any point in the week?
>> I remember on my way here. [laughter] >> I love an honest man.
>> Being honest. All I ever >> Okay. So, are you guys still going for >> No, it's cancelled.
It was literally giving up on my knees.
Sadam, pard with me, please. [laughter] >> Why couldn't you call build or Randy any of the homies and go paddle?
>> See, normally I pardon with Filbert. So me, I've still been going for my paddle stuff.
>> But yeah, >> no, for now. For now.
>> No, it's expired. I don't want camera.
>> Okay. Yeah, this is giving checky. You [laughter] want to settle your scores first or do you continue with the I feel like we continue with the podcast which will give us a better episode and then you sort your issues after >> so I'm going to play a clip from Ron for context. It's a kid who I think they were being addressed by either like a teacher or a politician something. So this is how it plays out. This is from Ron the other one.
>> No, [snorts] before you play before you play I feel like uh most of the comments people want the video. So the editor [laughter] broh [clears throat] [laughter] my god. Ah yeah. So this is from Hey Listen [laughter] [laughter] gold.
[laughter] >> I've played it and I've sent it to Builder. Just for [laughter] FYI, if you're typing, it's on Builder, not on me.
>> No, but that's cool.
That is crazy. Oh, that's also deep though.
>> I thought when I grow up.
>> Let's talk about it >> cuz there's a lot of underlying things beneath this privilege. And that reminds me, not even privilege. It reminds me of um there's this guy this content creator called Sky Jackson >> who said that she she came to Kenya and mirrors are very expensive here. So people in Kenya don't know what they look like. [laughter] He doesn't know. [laughter] >> To be honest, you look like what's going on.
>> I know. There's a huge mirror in front of Snowball. If you come to my house, >> happy to say there's mirrors everywhere.
>> Everywhere.
>> You wonder why? So, Sky Jackson, did you see that clip?
>> You are. Oh my god.
>> So, she said literally that she was in Kenya and mirrors over here so expensive that people don't know what they look like. Okay. Does that mean mirrors are expensive or we cannot afford mirrors?
Talk about how poor we are.
>> Both prices.
>> It's a good way to look at it both. But then if you look at um Okay. So I see that and then my mind immediately goes the same thing we speak about all the time. The s mentality that people from the west normally feel like they have towards Africa.
>> You know your s mentality. It's like oh they'll come here and save us from whatever it is. Mhm.
>> So now she has to start a mirror foundation.
>> I don't know. I'm sure there is one.
>> But if you link this to what this kid is saying, >> oh, >> so probably I don't know where this I don't know where this is coming from.
But if I was to bet I feel like maybe there's a lot of NGO work happening around that village. So the people that look like they help save the village, build schools, dig B holes are the white people. So according to this kid, when I grow up, I want to become a white person.
also maybe even how their parents speak about white people at home.
>> It could be that true. And then when she goes to school, she's told that the white people defeated Africans during the fight because they had superior weapons because they g you know so and then the school gives you reasons that position the white man as a person >> and then so I can't this kid >> this is a kid who in my mind she just has admirations you know and she's um I wouldn't even say anything about Yeah. She just has foresight.
>> Yeah.
>> So in her world they live better.
>> What you should aspire to >> what you should aspire to be. But she doesn't know that this is the only goal she can ever achieve.
That's crazy. That's actually kind of sad. Very >> It's very sad, bro. If you think about it, it's actually very sad. But then it's it's the reality of the society and and and where we are. Bro, I I know for a fact um there's an NGO I want I want to mention. They used to do a lot of work in the Mara and then because they used to book air I rush there's times when we we'd go >> there for gigs >> and you'd go to some of the projects they've done when you go to those areas and these are areas that have leaders fully funded if you look at the projects they've done the schools hospitals and everything there's no way those kids in those villages don't look at these people as you know this is where I see it like saviors you know but then the reality is the system here has failed these kids >> there's no way a this young should admire to become a white person.
>> Truly, >> hey, Michael Jackson, come slowly.
Generally speaking, [laughter] >> this is a failed system, bro.
>> Yeah, proper.
>> But like we I I would even talk about maybe some sections of like Somali community who bleach. You know, bleaching is a big problem.
>> Yeah.
>> Like for women, I think also >> you you like borderland. Why? Why are you bleaching? No, I feel like most no I'm not talking about like proper proper dark skin. I feel like especially um a lot of people from your community >> but it's not enough. It's not it's not Caucasian.
>> I said borderline like you call like your you understand.
>> So why like people like they mix things like that that are even [clears throat] >> like even harmful like chemicals >> so that they walk away with light skin.
Yeah. And it's it's a it's a problem that has been going on for the longest.
I've seen there's a few content creators who are like um doctors uh from the smile community who talk about it sometimes. I've seen um I've seen them talking about some of the side effects mainly like women or men.
>> Oh no, mostly women.
>> So beauty we we fully covered. What are you bleaching for? We we don't even see your your little face anyways.
>> So how will the bleaching make any difference? It's it's it's actually >> my ninja [laughter] >> when they come for you.
>> I'm just asking like generally if you're covered and all we can see is your eyes even if you bleed for what am I >> No, but see the the Yeah, that's funny.
Yes.
>> Yeah.
>> But the reality is please don't [laughter] come for me.
>> I would never have made this statement.
>> I know where he lives just in case.
[laughter] So like it's even I would even say it's congalles. I think congalles men and women.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm saying I know many proper dark skins are the ones I know but that one what you've just said for >> you remember when Victoria was here she said that you learn in you learn in >> bleaching ads most of the billboards about bleaching products.
>> Um I mean vibes catel bleaching >> but it's okay. Vera she called it skin lightening. I think when it's expensive, it's skin lightening. When it's cheap, it's bleaching. That's what it looks like. But when when it gets to that then, is it like a self-esteem issue or is it um a societal problem where maybe light-kinned babes are perceived to get more opportunities? Cuz >> it's both. It's it's it's a it's a real conversation that happens both, but I' for personally I'd say it's more of a self-esteem issue because in as much as society deems lightkinn as maybe superior or whatever or a preferred skin tone, you should be able to be comfortable within yourself to accept that I am dark skin. This is the skin I'm supposed to be in and move. But then how long will you accept yourself when you feel like you're missing out on opportunities just because you're dark? And maybe you have examples of people who've lightened their skin and then their lives change or even not lighten, they're just not really lightkinned and >> they just sit.
>> Honestly, there's nothing you can do about it because think about it. There's two ways to eat. You can still lighten your skin and still not get those opportunities or you can still actually stay within yourself. Do whatever you need to do >> or you can lighten your skin and get those opportunities.
>> And there's also you cannot also get.
Remember, it goes two ways. It's not a guarantee because you're lightkinn.
>> Is that similarity between a transgender and someone who bleaches their skin?
>> What the hell are you talking about?
>> Get it home. I'm confused.
>> So like people who want to change themselves to to be some like they believe they're something else like someone who chops off their >> dick. I think the difference >> and someone who bleaches I think those are those are two different scenarios.
>> You see the skin skin is also an organ.
Yes, it's the largest organ of the body.
But >> but being lightkinn, you you as your >> I love how says that and then looks at me like [laughter] unexpect.
>> But bleaching you don't believe that you you're doing it because you want to be something. You want to be a white person.
>> So I'd say this.
>> No, you bleach so you want to be lighter.
>> No, you the goal is to be a white person, not white person.
>> No. [laughter] If you if you're the one asking this kid, you would have made this kid believe it's possible to zoom.
>> No, but see >> that's the goal that is unachievable.
>> But it's possible.
>> So, I tell you the difference.
>> You can bleach yourself and be white to be light.
>> Light. You can't be white.
>> Can be light.
>> Light to the extent like have you seen someone? You can't let me tell you regardless of how much you bleach yourselves, you can't be you can't be >> you can't become white like you you can be like a Michael Jackson for example.
>> There was Michael White >> but Michael had V, right?
>> I don't know.
>> Yeah, he did. So let me answer you can you can >> I think Saddam we the thing with like trans transgenders is that and bleaching the key difference for me would be on choice >> because also there's people who genuinely what do you mean choice? in the sense that there's people who genuinely >> um are born the way they were born. You don't you don't have control over how you were born.
>> Yeah.
>> But lightening your skin.
>> What do you mean born the way you born?
>> Um so the discussion on do are some people born gay or transgender or some are some people >> transgender and I think gaym it's two different things.
>> Yeah. No, I'm I'm just answering within the LGBT community.
There's a big difference between I want I choose now to lighten my skin and deep within myself. I was born as a man but I feel female. That's a big difference.
>> No, you can also be born as a black person but you feel white. So you want to change but you see but both have choices. No but you see you both decide.
>> No. So the the key difference here is the key difference here is not in how you feel. I can feel like I want to lighten my skin today and go do it. the difference in who I genuinely am. So if I'm genuinely >> genuinely means um okay forget there's there's people who've been influenced into we know for a fact there's people who've been influenced into um different sexual uh what is it called orientations right but there's genuine people who were born who were born in a in in a in a in a in an opposite body like there's men who were born in women bodies there's women who were born in men >> 100% science I mean science pro so you believe okay wait this is very interesting Mhm.
>> So you believe there is someone who is born a woman but now they and like they born in a man's body and their soul is a female and they feel like they should be Don't you think that's just like a hormonal imbalance thing?
>> Yeah. So so soul I can't go to soul. I don't know me what I can speak about is science and this is literally just in hormones mostly. So someone who was born so someone who was born like that they don't feel it's not a choice that's who they are.
>> Someone who says I feel like I want to lighten my skin so that I can >> You're losing me. You're losing me. Uh Chaxi you're saying if you are born and you feel a certain way it's >> not feel.
>> So you do you feel like you're a man or are you a man?
>> I feel like I'm a man.
>> YOU ARE A MAN. What do you mean you feel like a man?
>> I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why.
because of how physically I made because of my hormones. Because like you have a feeling it's not a feeling. You are a man.
>> No, but like >> I have Wait, I am a man.
>> You feel like you're a man or are you a man?
>> It's it's one there's two things. So you can feel like a woman while being a man >> cuz distinguish first. We'll come to that.
>> Do you feel like you're a man or are you a man?
>> I just need to remove my clothes and you will see.
>> I don't want to see. Hey Randy, please.
>> No.
>> [laughter] >> your video Randy Hor. No, but see we let's let's not confuse the thing physically. If we put a dog here, this is a dog.
>> Sah, I don't need to ask the dog, are you a dog?
>> You see, it's a dog.
>> That's I'm asking you.
>> Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'll get there. How what I feel like can change. If I more estrogen, whatever, I'll start having boobs and stuff. Mhm.
>> So that's me manipulating my hormones.
That is one thing.
>> What I am, I just need to see. I don't need to be told like this is a cup. This is a cup. Why? Why is it a cup? Cuz it can hold things. It's not a plate.
>> But other things that >> Wait, one question. One question. He I'm talking about this one.
>> Yeah.
>> This is a cup.
>> It's a cup.
>> And I'm sure it doesn't feel like a cup.
It's a cup.
>> Forget about what it feels like on aa feels like we'll talk about that kind of. This is a cup.
>> Mhm.
Mhm.
>> You have something between your legs hanging.
>> Yes.
>> Factually, you're a man >> because that is what you are.
>> Ask me if I used it in Europe.
>> Relax.
>> Okay.
Europe. [laughter] >> Stop. Stop.
[laughter] Anyway, I'm shocked you don't have an accent.
>> It's coming, bro.
>> [laughter] >> So like we see like if something is something it's something because we see what it is.
>> Forget about what it feels inside.
>> That does not change the fact that this is a cup. This is a man. You're a man.
You're biologically a man because of literally you being a man, your chromosomes and everything.
>> So I like the word you said biologically a man. Yes. Which means if you're biologically a man, you are looking at the physical what you can see physically, right? But can you see their hormones by by using your eyes?
>> You can test. You can go test out.
>> So now if you're going by biologically, of course, biologically they look the gender they were born in. That's what they that's what >> No. What do you mean they look the gender? Listen, taxi.
>> Okay. What is What is your argument? So cuz I feel like I still don't get I don't know what your >> My argument is it's not even an argument.
>> Yeah. Okay. What is your position? My position is >> do you feel like a man? Feeling feeling can change >> exactly >> to me or yourself cuz it's your hormones whatever whatever whatever >> but you being a man >> you being a man should not you should not tell us you're a man we should see you're a man like you your your whatever you're born whatever you're born into whatever whatever vessel you have is what we are identifying or yeah so let me so that we don't spend So I hear you and that's one way of looking at it. All I'm just saying is that over time it's been proven and there's facts that that is not the only way that we can look at it.
>> So there's my skin I can decide to change it or not change it.
>> That's one. My hormones that I'm born with, I don't have control over that. So if I decide in this sense what I can do is I can alter those hormones the same way I can change my skin. So when we start to do that then now we can start talking about preference.
>> Am I clear?
>> So my skin the way my skin is I was born with this skin the way it is. Right.
>> Mhm.
>> If I want to change this skin it's a preference. I can do it cuz now there's things for me to do that. Mhm.
>> Now my the person that I am also the way I was born, I can't change that. You can you can you can see you can see my dick and my whatever all my my features look like a man. But if inside and the hormones I have are very um no lean towards um the female >> then the only way to change that is again if I get hormone whatever what are they called those if I if I change my hormones. Now the difference between these two not I would not I wouldn't I wouldn't say I would say alter over time then what I say I would say correct >> I would say correct because because if you're a man if you're if you're born with a penis ideally you should have a profile your hormones that align to that >> yes but now your profile of hormones is opposite >> that means you need therapy like hormonal therapy to to align it and not say that now Mimi I will go with whatever uh whatever.
>> But you see now but you see now that's now where the preference comes in saddam cuz cuz that's that now if I decide for instance if I decide that I want to get are they hormone boosters please check I think they're called hormone boosters but just check so where you lean towards correction but also maybe that's not how they feel. So where you want to correct someone who already within themselves they feel otherwise not they feel see we we've just agreed that how you feel for this >> if your hormones if hormones are already off >> that means you need to fix it so that you feel on but you see now you're going towards fixing but what if someone someone doesn't want to fix that cuz when you're fixing fixing alludes to they have a problem >> it is a problem if you have >> so all I'm saying is that you don't have the that I am. The person that I am is very different from I want to wake up today and change my skin, change my hair. I feel like those are those are simple those are simpler things. Those are simpler things. When it touches to the sexuality of somebody, I don't think that is as simple as lightening my skin.
It's not that simple.
>> Okay. So to conclude >> in your school of thought if someone feels a certain way they should go with that feeling and change their body to match the feeling.
>> So me I'm all for >> No no no that's how it should be. So me I'm all for do what you want with your body. It's your body do what you want.
>> No forget. So being political like always do what you obviously do what you want with your body. No one no one is forcing you not to do anything. But we can have we can have a conversation and say that who if if if you are born and you have your even even women you have hormonal imbalances or a normal situation >> genus and you and and and for example if you want if you're a woman and you want to have kids and you're told your hormones are off what do you do?
>> So do you decide to become a man because you can't now but you don't but those but the thing is when she's feeling like that because of her hormones she's not feeling like that. asking you no listen to me though what I'm saying >> if Maria wants to have children you have imbalance you have high testosterone >> and your estrogen is low >> so that is kubali it's not allowing you to have a baby so what do you do you go and do the hormonal therapy we we we don't want we don't tell Maria to okay now you have more testosterone you become a man now >> but you see the That's those are two different instances. So you so you are allowed to manipulate.
>> No, Mariah doesn't have higher tes from birth.
>> She doesn't naturally have >> in this moment where it needs fixing for a certain cause.
>> It's not like she was trying to become a dude.
>> So I'll tell you this to answer your question. When and I I really mean it.
People should be able to do what they want with their bodies. What I'm against is when they have these hormones on kids. Uh you know like California those laws they pass. That one I'm against because I don't I don't think that a kid has enough information.
>> But when it's someone who's an adult and above, >> what you want to do should be done is pro provide them with all the options and tell them exactly the consequences of all their options and let them choose. Again, it goes back to >> also take them to counseling.
>> So >> maybe they're not okay. Maybe you need to cancel.
>> I'm saying if do you see your problem?
>> It it's it's a possibility.
>> It could be. Don't assume that automatically. Yeah. Why not?
>> Because it might not be a problem.
That's And if they problem then that's okay.
>> But if I if I say that you know what if you tell me today taxing me I'm I'm a couch.
>> I'll be like okay nice. [laughter] >> It's not the same.
>> I mean he is a coach.
>> What do you mean that's how it starts?
>> It's not [laughter] the same.
>> Okay. How do how do you think all these things started? like how how did how did California pass the laws of allowing children to do these things? I mean it started with somewhere >> but over I think for California and most of those what they want to call advanced states is definitely lobbying and people over time getting themselves in positions where they can influence decisions. I don't think it happened overnight with people who are straight who made these decisions. So when there's the whole LGBT care movement uh the walkness you know where people are walk and all this of course expect to start seeing such laws. I do not support those laws as as an individual. And it's not because I don't think that there's people who are born like this. I completely agree there's people who are born like this. But I'm just like just leave the kids out of it. Let the adults decide what they want to do. But leave the kids out of it.
>> This is a good segue now that I want us to move from.
>> Did you just say in conclusion? No.
Yeah. Know that's a good segue. My kids and >> now this let's go back to the World Cup >> because there's someone there's someone >> it's no it it it touches to this.
There's someone who was given growth hormones.
>> Lean back to the mic.
>> There's someone who was given growth hormones when he was a kid.
>> That's messy.
>> And then we told compete with him.
>> Growth hormones.
>> Growth hormone is steroids.
>> But what do they do?
>> That's what Gashago use.
>> No, chill. Please check which growth hormones me was given and what effect they have on the body because we're not about to do that propaganda.
>> We're doing confirm. Did you just say us growth hormone growth hormone part of his viagra was given but he uses viagra is one he uses growth hormones he uses steroids he uses something called >> let me tell you know you know it's bad when saddam is regating us we're used to saddam rebating people watching now you So [laughter] [screaming] >> right now what Messi was given to me it's banned.
>> Okay. Wait, >> tell us.
>> So >> all right.
>> Uh Messi was diagnosed with growth hormone deficiency at age 11 and received daily injections of synthetic synthetic human growth hormone somatropin. This treatment successfully allowed him to reach a normal adult height of 5'7 and developed his bone density, muscle mass and athletic capacity.
>> Exactly. Athletic capacity. So you wait hold >> no we not going to pick one word. It allowed it allowed him to do what? To reach normal adult height >> and then develop bones >> density and muscle mass and athletic capacity.
>> Exactly. That's normal cuz he was deficient.
>> How was he how how else was he supposed to develop those things?
>> Okay. Have you shone?
>> I don't know what that is.
>> You haven't? Okay.
>> One question. Relax.
Today you relax. Take a deep breath. [snorts] >> Uh my point is to hold breath out.
>> Hold for like maybe 4 days. [laughter] Take it.
Uh growth hormones of those on the body.
>> See development. The injection successfully promoted normal skeletal growth and lean muscle mass development.
>> Lean muscle. Lean muscle.
I am not bullshitting you, bro.
>> Athletic style. The compact low center of gravity physique that resulted from his psychological development while partially constrained by his childhood condition complemented his agility.
Quick change of direction.
>> Oh my god. You're describing all you're describing all his football abilities.
[laughter] >> That is true. His low center of gravity helps him dribble. Wait, I know you're not part of excuse me. That's why I'm saying >> Ronaldo is the greatest player of all time >> because he's natural. He's natural.
>> Okay.
>> Messi Messi used growth hormone.
>> He was born with a deficiency. Sad.
>> That means what did you listen? Okay.
How comes we don't inject all the dwarfs growth hormone?
>> I mean because maybe they just they don't have access to it. So okay, let me ask. I'm coming back to you.
>> And also hasn't finished.
How do we know stop where he's supposed to stop? How how do we know?
>> Because he's an athlete and they get tested regularly.
>> No, >> they get tested regularly.
>> At at a young age, that's where everything >> develops. Bro, he was at a young age in the academy in Barcelona.
>> Exactly.
>> He was not in a young age.
>> In a lab. In a lab.
>> Wanting to be a white person. [laughter] >> We We're talking about a player who manufactured in a lab. Nah, come on bro.
Come on in a lab. Okay, finish first.
>> Uhhuh.
>> Now he can compete in these enhanced games.
>> Football enhanced games where everyone is taking growth hormones.
>> Wait. Okay, finish and then finish.
You're done.
>> And then the impacts on overall health, >> managing the deficiency, prevented long-term risk such as poor bone density, organ growth issues, and prolonged physical maturation. Okay, before we go to hating, genuinely speaking, what have you understood from that?
Chill.
What have you pag understood? Generally, without influence of our opinion.
>> Generally, this is a guy who had a problem and then that really helped him to be, you know, much up to par with everyone else.
>> Okay. So, you believe you believe. So, you believe you believe I'm I'm keep going. Do you believe someone who growth hormones alip things that we don't do and then all of a sudden he becomes the greatest player of all time.
>> But but but me had potential even before this. He just had a deficiency.
>> Show me a video of him doing anything before growth hormone.
>> Show me a video. I don't know. He doesn't exist.
>> I mean I'm sure but listen because a video doesn't exist doesn't mean that he was not. You don't listen if you don't.
We're talking about someone 11 years old by the time 18 whatever like he he is mature grow.
So would you have preferred me to continue living with this deficiency and then we we never have one of the best players ever to grace the the world.
>> Uh >> would you have preferred for him to >> maintain to maintain the integrity of the sport? Yes. Because >> Okay. Is it illegal? Is it illegal? Is it illegal to get growth hormones in in football?
>> Is it illegal?
>> 100%. 100%.
>> So how then how did >> That is a good question.
>> Madam good science. So that in Europe we allow people to speak fast >> like we we taking the HGH is strictly banned in professional sports. However, Messi's use of HGH was legal and did not violate anti-doping regulations due to three key factors. one therapeutic use exemptions. So what lists HGH as a prohibited substance at all times despite this at a atlet with severe verified medical conditions can apply allowing them to use unnecessary prescript as to use necessary prescription medications. Then Messi was diagnosed with a documented pathologically proven hormone deficiency. He was not using it for athletic enhancement but rather to restore his body to normal healthy baseline development. And last Messi underwent this homotherapy as a child long before he entered the professional drugs or became subject to adult WADA drug testing protocol. So sad my other question is legit generally speaking now now as as as as you know as as as someone who even is conscious enough to wear >> so they say it doesn't enhance the therapeutic use of the substance will not produce any additional force speed or performance enhancement beyond the returning the athlete to a normal state of health.
>> Thank you brother. That's what we can look like. So, my question is your Google is [laughter] THE SAME.
>> Do you see the same mama? No. What do you understand? Jesus said what? I was like, yes. Like, are you hearing other things? So, my question to you is generally speaking, man, I look at like Messi and Ronaldo and I'm like, how privileged are we that we've lived in a generation where we've actively seen these guys play at their best?
>> Why can't we just appreciate both, bro?
That's what I don't get. Like you cannot genuinely take away from Messi's greatness. Messi >> like Ronaldo. Let me let me even bring Ronaldo cannot move like Messi. Ronaldo does not have ball control. But I can't take away from Ronaldo's greatness. I look at them as like them to see great play at that highest level.
>> If if if we were all allowed to use growth hormones and then Messi is the greatest of all time hormones. He was already he was normal.
>> No. If if if no one was allowed to if everyone was allowed to use growth hormone >> and then me is still the best I would agree but now he's the only one who's exempted. So >> so but even even though he used this hormones as a kid just so that you could grow as a normal person and they've told you it does not enhance your speed agility hormonal growth listen by the name growth. [laughter] >> So so you are going it by the name regardless of what science says it does.
He was meant to be a stool. [laughter] But because of your theory, maybe you should listen. He was meant to be a stool.
His hormones deficiency that you're speaking about, bro. This is messy that you're speak I'm I'm too I'm too mature. It's not that my eyes are normal and decided he wanted HGH vaccines. He was deficient. You understand? If you lack, >> there's so many things we want to lack.
>> Me, I don't have the money for it.
>> But >> if I did, >> if you did right now do anything, you would be banned.
>> But I'm not a professional athlete.
>> Anyway, anyway, bottom line is maybe I I saw someone enhanced in a final lose to guys who are natural. Yal is natural braces natural.
He doesn't have a time. You're supposed to accept the way God created you. If you created a short person, be short. If you created Okay, so you are created as a thin person. Why do you go to the gym?
[laughter] You're laughing. You're laughing too hard. [laughter] Why did you go to the gym, bro?
>> You are muscle deficient.
>> Yeah, you muscle deficiency. Why didn't I Why DIDN'T [laughter] >> ANYWAY World Champions man for the second time?
>> Love you.
>> Okay. Generally speaking, which team did you have before the World Cup started?
>> Uh uh I was supporting Ronaldo. So I was supporting Portugal.
>> Portugal. Only Portugal.
>> I supporting Portugal and then I was just hitting on Messi throughout.
Thank you. Auntie you are >> team Africa support for everyone now finals. I was like bro I'm definitely not supporting racist. So yeah.
>> Hey Spain was also racist.
>> But to have a whole restaurant called Big Niggas is crazy.
>> That's crazy. Even even uh when they when they were celebrating the goal, did you see the video? Like when the when the Spain scored kind of corner, there was a Argentinian player sorry fun or make up on a flags. So like she want to celebrate. So they were like like Israeli flag like trying to >> like like trying to like you know like trying to get their attention by like flying it which is so funny like what would they want? Like it's so funny because why you have someone else's flag there?
>> So but you know what? So okay let me [clears throat] let me let me just explain to you. So there was even this finals had a bit of political. So remember the president of of Spain >> is has been one of the leaders who have been pro free Gaza ever >> and even when the US was attacking uh when the Iran US war was going on he remember he said you can't use the Spanish airspace for anything. So him he's been very vocal about um Iran and about Gaza. Now the Argentinian president on the other hand >> he has been very produce.
>> So even that World Cup was almost like another Israel and like anti like it played out. So this other the the Spanish guys are free Palestine. These other guys are like we we support the Jews Israel and their agenda. So there was a bit of polit political there a political angle to it.
>> Yeah. And uh it's it's that's I like that. Stand your ground.
The whole idea of being like stand your ground so that we we know what you don't respect someone who was openly hitting you.
>> Respect is a right. You know this guy was Portugal as well. You guys left early.
>> Still repping Portugal.
>> Still repping Portugal. I was my first team was France. My second team was Spain.
>> And for France, I still think they had the the most balanced team. It's hard to imagine that they lost, but now that they lost to Spain makes us the most sense. The people that I don't understand how they were just led to be morons is Argentina.
>> I didn't watch a lot of the qualifying matches, but I watched the game against England.
>> How they got away, let me tell you more, that game against England, if those fouls, which were genuine fouls were given and the cards were given, that game ends differently. Because if you start giving those fouls and those yellow cards, then they have to change how they bro and the goons we see in politics.
>> I just saw goons who are dressed nicely and representing a national team. If you watch the Egypt, you'll even be more pissed. The Egypt Egypt one was 10,000 times worse >> cuz they even cancel Egypt >> Yeah. because someone was fouled on the other side which was like a soft foul.
>> Didn't you see they tried to do the same thing again with the bro in the finals?
I still understand how that goal was not how did the goal it's a clean goal I was like oh no replay from what the one >> and there was an outside one >> yeah so that's why I'm saying my okay and me my biggest problem I remember watching the the finals of the world cup and I'm like this is the biggest sporting event in the entire world there's no other single sporting event that is watched by most people like the finals of the world Mhm.
>> A lot of those people are also kids, bro. Some of those kids are kids inademies, kids looking to get there.
>> And then I'm like that the way Argentina is getting away with things, especially fouls, and the way they're playing, I don't think it's a good example to even kids, bro.
>> Cuz then what are you telling kids that it's okay to play like this?
>> And my biggest joy is that they were completely outplayed.
>> Yeah.
>> In the entire game. Zero shots on target within the first 90 minutes. Is this a World Cup final?
>> 120 minutes.
Bro, zero shots on target. I feel like, are you kidding me? The keeper is the one who played more than the rest of the players because what the hell, >> bro? The the team I play with with a shot. I'm [laughter] sorry. Serious.
>> Hey, that day I had >> I had more Red Bull shots than them.
Like, what the hell, man?
>> What do you mean? And and and I'm like looking at just how and I see what people say that they were carried. It's impossible to say they were not carried when you look at like the England game and you guys are telling me the Egyptian game was worse. I look at the finals.
>> Okay, the game is over. You've lost.
What the fuck are you fighting?
>> Yeah, for chalking people.
>> Chalking people. And that's why I'm saying for me my biggest problem is if this is a sport that so many kids watch, what example are we setting?
>> And this is as simple as letting the officials just do their job. Bra, do you know the game started like the first 20 minutes and I'm I'm wondering like is the ref going to give a yellow card at any point or no >> cuz he keeps giving fouls clear yellow cards nothing >> the guy held on Yamal >> bro >> like it was so blatant that was a definite yellow card >> and then Enzo Enzo gets his second yellow and sent off and you have to wait for 3 minutes I don't know for you to look at it >> yeah like how is this even allowed to continue that you can get a a red and still You take your time.
>> Yeah. Within the same by the way your goat. Your your your goat.
>> Which goat?
>> Kella Messi was talking to him and then did this [laughter] and THEN like he did this like it was so embarrassing.
>> [laughter] >> Clearly because that game there was no growth hormones present.
>> That's what I'm saying.
>> Nothing.
>> And also Messi was completely outmatched, bro. But also, I mean, you can't disregard how crazy Messi was in this World Cup, bro. At 39 years old.
>> How many penalties?
>> It doesn't matter.
>> It doesn't matter. But also, how many how many goals? How many goals from open play?
>> No, he has penalties. your penalty is normal.
>> My my brother, you can never discredit Messi's greatness. That one I will not allow you. And and I'm and I'm a Ronald, you know, of course I'm a Ronaldo fan, but it's impossible to look at Messi and not think that he's either you either you're either pro- natural or pro enhanced >> and that's fine. Back to the World Cup.
I think if the officiating um doesn't do anything about Argentina's performance in this World Cup >> Yeah.
>> then all you're saying is we can come do that whatever.
>> Yeah. And I promise you no African team can play the way Argentina play with it.
>> Do you know what's also funny? After they beat England, they came Messi came with a placard of I think there's a country that Argentina and England were fighting for. It's called Fakland or something.
And then they were like uh return a factor to Argentina or something really some really political stuff like like it >> how does allow this to happen?
>> Somebody said just give it a few there will be a whole scandal with FIFA. It's looming. Just wait on >> mind you they refuse he to have the independence. Remember they had like the the freedom fighter >> flag on the jersey to remove. Yeah. And then you allow Argentina to celebrate with the Fakland.
>> Yeah. It's just ridiculous. Yeah.
Fuckland. Fuckland war. Yeah.
>> It's called Fakland.
>> Falkland. FK. F A L K.
>> I was going to I was going to ask is it free? [laughter] >> Anyway, so um some records were broken.
Hey, wait. Before that, Yamal's younger brother >> bro.
I'M A FAN.
>> I'M LIKE >> I'M a fan. I feel like my explore page is full of his videos because he gives me so much joy.
>> He's such a happy baby. He's just being himself. [laughter] >> But to be honest, I don't know. I first I first saw him during the baby. Wait, I saw him during the Euros.
>> Serial during >> that kid has not grown a single age.
[laughter] >> THAT'S THE SAME.
NOW, if there's one person who deserves this, [laughter] >> bro, this kid is like five.
>> What?
>> Three.
>> He's been three since 2022.
>> That's why [laughter] that's a lie, bro.
>> Look at his videos from the Look at the videos now. [laughter] >> He reminds me of Jew Family Guy.
>> Yes. Do we?
>> No, because he's on 20 and the kid is the same. [laughter] >> What?
>> Honestly, I [laughter] can't >> I can't I tell you that kid and it's videos of the World Cup and then also even just private videos that I think Yamal or someone post.
>> That kid, >> even the mom. There's like videos of them together like >> with the mom. Did you see the golfing one?
>> The golfing.
>> No. What is What is he doing? Abu I need to look for it. We have to play it. We have to play.
>> If you do then also just remember to send it to build. I don't want issues again with the comments.
>> But then even in the World Cup there's a where he he does an interesting handshake with the police officer and then where's where's his cape?
>> Uh yeah >> I was just like bro that kid and then there's a photographer who has to take pictures of him and then he just lay on the ground.
>> I think I saw >> I was like bro this kid.
>> Let me see. Uh uh.
>> Oh, just send it to me.
>> Oh my god.
>> Okay. So, >> wait. Does it have audio?
>> Play play for both.
>> Does it have audio?
>> Watch the video first.
>> He's [laughter] a baby. It's a >> Wait, bro. He's missing.
>> Wait. [laughter] >> Okay, then. Put it back.
[laughter] >> I'm not doing this anyway.
[clears throat] [laughter] Don't worry. For the guys on YouTube, you're adding it. Send me Send this so I can watch your video. I die. He's so cute.
>> Younger brother. Oh my goodness.
>> Exactly.
>> And what is it?
>> Each time each time Yal um each time he came on the screen, [laughter] >> he's just a baby.
>> Send it to me. Send it to me. And then each time I love how each time um Yamal would come on the big screen like he'd make faces and then the camera would pan to him. and he's just making >> Oh my god.
>> Yeah. I think someone else was speed man.
>> His performance speed was live at almost every World Cup World Cup game that were held in the States >> live. [snorts] Uh I think the finals he had millions of people watching at the same time and then he performed at the opening ceremony and killed it.
>> Yeah. Shout out man.
>> Shout out to Hard Work, >> bro. You know what I mean? That guy works hard, bro. I was like, "Every single day, Speed was live from a World Cup match." Every single day, bro.
>> Love it.
>> And he'd be there for a bunch of matches.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, man.
>> You know, I know it's funny because usually when uh most of these streamers, >> people who make videos, you can't really tell who they are, >> but people who stream and then stream for like cuz you will sleep. If somebody's not a decent person, >> they'll always they'll always show their their true self. It's been almost how many years and the kid is just going bro and just keeps going man speed man that was genuinely entertaining. Um then I saw Oina and Bolo Bolo had a bet for the finals supporting Argentina Bolo Spain and they put 2 million each.
>> Are you serious?
>> Yeah. Needless to say, you know how the night went.
>> Yeah.
>> 2 million each.
>> I saw So Drake lost 195 million >> Kenyan shillings. I saw that.
>> Yeah. He bet on Argentina 195.
>> People People who rely on Messi. What's wrong with you?
>> I mean, if they did in the last World Cup, they would have won.
>> He's a he's a World Cup winner. How many World Cups run out of >> Oh, that World Cup. Yeah.
>> Do you know how many like Do you watch those games?
>> Of course I did.
>> Did you see how Argentina won the final?
>> Of course I did.
>> Oh yeah. Yeah.
>> The final they won.
>> France lost their chances.
>> The Maria Di Maria penalty. That was not a penalty.
>> I'm saying France lost their chances though.
>> They they got a penalty, bro. including the last minute was equal to run or the name of that guy who just lost an open goal.
>> He got a penalty in almost in every single game they played.
>> I'm starting to question you. Are you Ronaldo fan or a Messi fan?
>> No.
No, you can't.
>> Bro, you are not even my my Portugal just be a Buddha and I'm just a fair guy. I'm just saying >> still I'm just a fair guy. Shut up.
>> I'm just [laughter] a fair guy. I'm I'm a football fan, bro. before before me and Ronaldo like it's like saying me and Ronaldo are soon retiring will I stop supporting football I'm a football fan >> who who inspires people more >> both of them but Ronaldo is a way bigger social media person so outside the sport Ronaldo is >> not social media talking about impact like supporting the people who are suffering everywhere like who who has who has been exactly and who's natural Ronaldo he he fights for us >> anyway so some records were broken in this world cup Shut up saddam. So most matches at a FIFA World Cup tournament 104 games across USA, Canada, Mexico. I mean of course cuz they increased teams.
>> H but then still a record. Most goals ever. So most FIFA World Cup goals by a football player with a total of 22 goals scored by Kenb. This is from 20182 and 2026. So shout out to Bee for that. Then Michael Oly achieved the most assist by football player at a FIFA Ala tournament with a total of seven. Then uh Spain's goalkeeper Onai Simon takes home the record for the longest FIFA World Cup clean sheet not letting a goal in between 1st December 2022 and 10th July this year.
>> Wow.
>> Crazy. They've been on a run, bro. Also remember Spain, the European champions.
They won the Euros. So that's a huge run. Then Vina, another celebrity, bro.
um became the oldest goalkeeper to keep a clean sheet in a FIFA World Cup debut when he stopped Spain scoring any goals in the showdown on 15th June. He was aged 40 years and 12 days at the time.
>> Wow, >> bro. This, you know, he's the most followed goalkeeper in the entire world.
From like 50k followers.
>> Yeah. From 50 to 50k to million to like 20 something million. And now he has deals. I saw he has a deal with Uber with >> Love it. Love, >> bro. The World Cup changed his game.
Then Mbappe alltime scorer in the World Cup with 22 goals. Messi held the record at 21 goals >> for how many days?
>> No, he's he's like Mbappe is the now leading. Yeah, >> Messi had the previous record as 21 goals. Mbappe in this one.
>> But yeah, 21 goals in last how many days? Four days, three days cuz he had scored two goals.
>> Then yeah, then bee came also most individual goals in a knockout stage.
Mbappe holds that record. Then Messi also broke some records with a total of nine goals. He earns the title of the most consecutive FIFA World Cup matches scored in by a player. Also, most FIFA World Cup matches played in by an individual at 34 games.
>> Who?
>> Messi. So, I'm read Messi mostly three records broken. One, a total of nine goals. He earns the title of the most consecutive FIFA World Cup matches scored by a player. Also, he holds the record for the most matches played in by an individual at 34 matches. He's also the oldest player to score a hat trick in a FIFA World Cup. He was aged 38 years 357 days. He scored three goals against Algier.
>> So he broke 300.
>> Yeah. In this >> for someone who's enhanced that's quite low to be honest.
>> Did you expect I expected him to be like what 700 goals.
>> Anyway, now to the what you want to hear. Ronaldo broke some records as well but only one. Most FIFA World Cup tournaments scored in by a single player. He scored in six FIFA World Cups. 206 2010 2014.
>> So he's played six World Cups, scored six World Cups. Yes. So Messi played six World Cups, scored five. [clears throat] There's a World Cup. Messi didn't score a single goal.
>> It's fine. He still he still has more World Cup records than Ronaldo.
>> Still has more World Cup records than Ronaldo. Then Kuraka, oldest coach in the World Cup at 78. They're the oldest coach. It's also the smallest nation to make it past the group stages. It has a population of 500k people.
>> Damn. Um yeah. Then by 2030, the World Cup is set to be jointly held by Morocco, Portugal, and Spain. and will mark the 100th anniversary of the first ever tournament that was held in Funny because I think there's also two other countries they won.
>> There's two other countries also hosting Urugu.
>> So it's Morocco, Portugal and Spain.
>> Yes.
>> And it will mark the 100th anniversary of the first ever tournament which was held in 1930 when the hosts Uruguay won.
>> So Urugu will also host a few games during the tournament.
>> Really?
>> So five countries just three in >> but how bro U is in South America.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And then this other the countries are these other countries are in Europe including Morocco.
>> Actually I think it's two teams saying >> actually there is two teams in I think and I need to confirm.
>> Yeah.
>> Anyway as asam confirms guys what the fuck is happening in in in Rio man like there's a man >> so this Argentine and Paraguay will each host a special centinary opening match.
>> Okay. That's an opening match.
>> Three teams >> and then fly them to >> Uruguay Paraguay >> Paraguay and Argentina.
>> Oh my old thugs. All >> all of them are [laughter] thugs.
>> Paraguay thugs thugs.
>> I swear. Maybe maybe we should send our talented goons to go play football.
Anyway, because you posted residents of Gtoa and nearby areas in Ruru sub county are living in fear following reports of a mysterious man who allegedly attacks and bites people at night. Just bites.
According to residents, several incidents have been reported in the O in the OJ prisons, Gdonguri and surrounding neighborhoods. Uh the latest victims are said to include a man and a woman who reported reportedly suff suffered severe bite injuries. Severe including wounds to the lips.
>> There's um there's actually like a bunch of CCTV videos.
>> Mhm.
>> Bro, this guy just attacks and bites people. Does not eat them. Just bites them. I kind of get it. kind of nice to everyone.
>> You guys haven't bitten anyone. Why >> tell us about your biting expeditions?
>> Think I think it's as a concept sounds interesting.
>> So, what part of the body would you bite? [laughter] >> The arm.
>> The arm.
>> Wait, someone was bitten.
>> Okay, explain.
[laughter] Somebody just attacks you and then bites you. He >> just latches on. So he comes to your mouth, ignores your lips >> like digs in.
>> The lips is one person. The lips is one person. The other people have been attacked in one.
>> Yeah. There's even one who has little bandages. Bro, do you know how crazy it is that someone just walks around and bites people.
>> There's a video I saw on Tik Tok of some lady. So she's like a bun victim. So she has like like proper bun scars and whatnot. So she makes a video and she goes, "Well, I've seen there's a guy who's biting people [laughter] [laughter] by my kind of person."
>> I But I think it's so strange and the fact that there's so many wild things that happen in this country, I feel like I should go back to Europe.
>> Anyway, guys, I was waiting. Are you guys going to ask me to tell you about my my trip or no?
>> No, we can move. We end the video from there.
>> You can post on Tik Tok. We'll keep up.
>> So at moa puppy kid posted a picture interesting picture. Uh has it's like a portrait of someone clearly a very old picture black and white but this is like it looks you know when before black and white pictures used to look black and white but they were like grayish.
>> Mhm.
>> So it says Namu in brackets 1880. The first Louisa man to eat rice for supper. He died at midnight. [laughter] [laughter] >> True.
>> Do you know there was genuinely people like we had it rough in high school and we had a lot of ugali because there's so many students who were like they can't eat rice.
>> What do you mean can't eat rice? Um I actually mean my words. In my high school, we had to eat every day because there's so many students who said they can't eat rice. They have to eat like rice.
>> So all your high school life you just eat.
Rice was like >> Yeah.
It's true. It doesn't have much though.
Anyway, quick reminder again. November 11th. Um, our November 7th. What the fuck do I keep saying November 11th? 11.
Did I go to Europe on 11th? Okay, I'm missing. So, November 7th, [laughter] our final hangout of the year is confirmed. It's going to be our biggest hangout ever. Uh, Alibad tickets are still live. Please get those tickets link in all our bios and descriptions.
Um, after Alibad, we go to advance, then regular, then get tickets. Each month we increase the price by 500 shillings which I think is fair because guys man this these events are too expensive to produce you know um and so get your tickets early in advance and for the guys who are coming for the Spotify event Grizzly Tunes we have our live show this Saturday 25th it's going to be I think there's still tickets um that are being sold I think add tickets uh to our descriptions also you can check Spotify Africa or Grizzy Tunes Africa get your tickets early in advance see you on Saturday Okay, fine. Tell us.
>> So I tell you my Europe experience at >> Mhm.
>> on Saturday.
>> Okay.
>> Yes. So um so the episode will be live on Spotify exclusively.
>> Yeah.
>> But we'll upload the video. Actually, you know, we upload our videos on Spotify.
>> Yeah. So it's just that I think in Kenya on Spotify you can't watch the videos but anyone like in in in like Europe where I just came from they watch our pod on Spotify the same way you watch it [laughter] on YouTube.
So So um we'll upload the episode exclusively on Spotify and then for a couple I don't know how long. Eventually we'll have it on YouTube eventually but it's going to be exclusively available on Spotify for those who will not be there and for those who come. Listen man, I'll tell you about Europe and you know how we get down over there.
>> Any other question you have?
>> We me and my peoples. You you guys were here.
>> Yes. [laughter] Europe by the way.
So tomorrow's the flight.
[laughter] [laughter] [gasps] Anyway, episode 3 and Z [screaming] over 23. This is the brunch.
Welcome back to the now. When you watch it, you'll
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