This debate exposes the disturbing moral vacuum created when ancient dogma is prioritized over universal human dignity. It serves as a stark warning against the ethical regression inherent in literalist religious interpretations.
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If they treated them better, do you think slavery would have been fine?
If they treated them according to the Hebrew law, then it would have been fine. What?
[ __ ] The law SAYS YOU CAN NO. NO. NO. NO. NO, NO, NO, BRO. NO. In 2025, 2026?
As long as they were treated with the Hebrew laws, it was fine?
I'm pro-slavery as long as they follow the tenets of God. Jesus.
Posh forever. Alrighty, man. We are back with another video, and it's been a while since I have done a reaction to Justin's live debates.
And the title for this video alone is enough to take me aback.
And I haven't watched this video yet.
So, I would like to check it out with you guys and see what nonsense is about to occur from this live debate.
Christian bring back slavery D Z debates.
Oh my days, bro.
This one is about to be interesting, man. Let's get into it. Let's get into it. Oh, so if the Old Testament says that something is permissible or not permissible, then that's what what it is?
According to the Hebrew faith, yes. So, we are allowed to own slaves then?
Okay, what the American people defined as slavery >> There he goes. There he goes.
>> And what what slavery was back then, they were indentured. What you did, if you read the book of Genesis, um That's not true.
>> his name was Jacob.
And he permitted himself to be an indentured servant to Rebecca's dad for 7 years because he wanted to marry Rebecca. She He gave him Leah instead.
>> you, mind you, the Christians that recognize that the Bible stands on slavery in the Bible is problematic.
Yet, today we have Christians who still try to justify it.
Like it would never not baffle my noggin, bro. It's I don't understand it.
I don't understand how you can be so pro something that's so evil because it's in association with your God and your dogmatic beliefs. I just don't get it.
And he permitted himself to another 7 years of slavery.
>> We all know the story. We know the story better than you do, in fact. Okay. So, we're not talking about indentured servants, we're talking about actual slaves.
Says in Leviticus 25, "As for your male and female slaves who you may have, it is from the nations around you that you Sorry, nations around you, from them you may buy male and female slaves.
Moreover, you may buy the children of strangers who dwell among you and their families who are with you which they beget in your land and they shall become your property and you shall make them as an inherit >> Keyword property, bro. Cuz Christians like to do this thing whereby they say, "Well, it was indentured servitude. You know, it wasn't the type of slavery that happened in the Americas." They'll even go as far as to say, "If you're a manager and you're the worker, that's what you are.
Like a biblical slave is like a worker to the manager." And I'm like, "Brother, being owned as property is not indentured servitude. And I didn't know that I was property to my supervisor at work. Shout out Curtis. I didn't know that. According to this logic, I didn't know that I was I was some property to my manager at work. So, it's like it says clearly, your property.
The act of owning another human being as property is enslavement, which makes the person who you own as a property your slave.
And what this text is doing is giving instructions on who the Israelites can own as slaves as property.
And who were the Israelites? God's chosen people. I promise you, it's not that hard. Bro, I'm not the smartest guy, and I get it. It's not that hard.
Trust me, bro. So, please, let's put an end to this it's indentured servitude.
It was like work out to a manager.
Dishonest much? Like >> inheritance for your children. Or so you will take them as an inheritance for your children after you for them to inherit them as a possession, and they will be your permanent slaves.
>> Permanent slaves.
Forever.
>> goes into And also it goes into the treatment of those people. Oh, hold on.
David David, you're you're moving the goal post, and you're you're lying again. So, right now, it doesn't say indentured servants. It doesn't say for 6 years go free in the seventh. It says they >> And to touch on what he just said, right? We're not talking about mistreatment. Obviously, you know, some slave owners might be nicer than the other, right? You know, they might let you have a meal a day as opposed to no meals a day, right? But, that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about the act of owning humans as property.
That's what we find issues with. We're not worried about the treatment.
Obviously we are, but that's not the topic at hand. No, the issue is the fact that this holy book allows the owning of humans as property and also gives instructions on how to go about it.
That's the problem.
Okay.
No, that my slave owner wasn't so nice.
No. They're your permanent slaves. Do you agree?
I agree. Okay, so you could have slaves permanently.
You could. Fantastic. I'm glad we can come Okay, so God does condone slavery.
Do you think that slavery's wrong?
In that sense, it was not wrong because Bro, the fact that he even waited that long.
Like that's an answer like he could spit out like 0.5 seconds.
Is slavery wrong? Yes.
Yes.
Like quite literally, but bro waited.
He's like, "Hmm, how do I How do I cut corners and not go against my beliefs?"
Well, in those times Let's hear him out.
Let's hear him out.
>> He also goes over the treatment of those Okay, so slavery is Okay, as long as you treat your slaves kindly?
Exactly. Okay, should you be allowed to beat your slaves?
No. Okay.
>> Because it says that in Leviticus as well. You can't. Yeah, I'm He hasn't read the problem with American >> here?
>> [laughter] >> Ian's here? You can You can hear the smug in his voice. Like Ian's voice is so smuggy. It's like Do you think Man, [snorts] Ian's funny, bro. I [ __ ] with Ian. Okay. It's not that they didn't treat their slaves it's enough.
>> [laughter] >> You hear the smug in his voice.
>> Well, at all. What do you mean? But if they try if they treated them better, do you think slavery would have been fine?
If they treated them according to the Hebrew law, then it would have been fine. What?
[ __ ] HEBREW LAW SAYS YOU CAN NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO, BRO. NO. In 2025, 2026 as long as they were treated with the Hebrew laws, IT WAS FINE.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS, MAN.
This is what happens, man. When you don't have a sense of morality for yourself whatever God says goes, man. This is what happens, man.
That's so sad, bro. Beat him with a rod.
If they commit a crime. No, it didn't say that. Says if a man beats his male or female servant with a rod and uh that he is unalived under his hand, he shall surely be punished.
>> surely be punished.
>> There you go. Keep reading.
Notwithstanding, if he remains alive for a day or two, he shall not be punished because he is his property.
So if he if he survives >> rod because he broke the law.
>> say that.
It didn't say anything about breaking the law. Stop putting words in >> have time to oppose and beat the hell out of him just because of his skin color. How do you know? Oh, the skin color is irrelevant. We're not talking about that. We're talking about owning slaves and whether or not you can beat them.
Again, Hebrew law defines slavery as different. No, it says you can beat them and you can own them for life.
Okay. That's slavery. So, what was wrong with the Atlantic slave trade?
The people who brought the slaves over were corrupt. And the people who owned the slaves here were corrupt. Okay. It's totally different. So, good, God-fearing people can own slaves.
And treat them correctly, yes. So, you're pro slavery then as long as it's good people doing it.
I'm pro slavery as long as they follow the tenets of God Jesus.
Bro, uttering the words I am pro slavery dot dot dot cut ties.
Cut ties, bro.
That is preposterous.
This guy thinks we're in 1821, 1725.
The word pro and slavery should never go in the same sentence.
It should have never gone in the same sentence and in this day and age, it should never even be a thought. It should never exist within your thought bubble.
But bro just said that on Tik Tok live with a bunch of people watching in big 2025, 2026.
Christians, y'all got to get it together, bro.
Get it together. It's okay. It's okay to admit that something in your Bible is wrong and then together we can proceed to tackle the next step.
But if you can't even admit that an evil act like enslavement isn't wrong, then we have nowhere to go from here. We have nothing to TALK ABOUT.
NOTHING. Because I mean, at that point, what else do you think? You think women should stay in the kitchen?
You think women shouldn't speak unless it's to their husbands at home?
Like we need to Y'all need to figure it out.
Fig- figure it out. Pro and slavery in the same sentence?
Jesus. They don't mistreat their slaves.
There we go. We heard it.
>> that you should be able to own slaves, David?
You because they feed >> WHY DID HE TAKE SO [screaming] LONG?
WHY DID HE TAKE?
JESUS.
Why did he take? Why what? Bro, that's like the easiest answer to just spit out. No.
Like the easiest.
And bro's taking forever thinking about a response that doesn't go against his beliefs, man. Oh my god.
Oh, man, bro. Separate these dogmas from your life, bro. It'll save you, bro.
It'll save you. Society's progressing, I promise you, gang. This 2,000-year-old book cannot be the end-all-be-all.
I promise you, gang. Come on.
>> Their slaves, they take care of their slaves. They give their slaves housing.
Should you be able to own slaves? Nah, bro. You And they pay their slaves.
Should you be able to own slaves, David?
You're a good Christian. You'd You'd treat your slaves very well. Should you be able to own them?
Bro, why is he taking so long?
HE'S TAKING LONGER.
JESUS.
He's talking to you.
Talking to you.
Oh, you're talking to me? What was your question? Should I Okay, what was your question?
>> able to own slaves? Okay. If you treat them well, you're a good Christian.
Should you be able to own slaves, you specifically? Do you want to own slaves?
I don't want to own slaves. I work for myself.
Would you be being too cruel of an owner? I'm confused. Why wouldn't you want slaves?
>> be too cruel of an owner. If it If the option were given to me and I would was able to hire help, then yes, I would, but I would treat them correctly. You would own slaves?
I would own slaves.
I mean, I should end the video here, bro.
I don't think we have much to talk about. I don't think I've got much to show y'all anymore.
I think the point's been made.
I think the point's been made.
What?
We have people like this walking around championing love.
Love your neighbor as you love thyself.
But I could only use a slave, though. If I treat you correctly.
This is why I'm agnostic. I mean, it's personally why. But this would send ANYBODY OVER THE EDGE OF DECONVERSION, BRO.
BECAUSE YOU have people like this who claim to be Christians and saying that they would own slaves if they were given the option to as long as he treated them right.
And you ask me why I do this channel.
You ask me why I do reaction videos. You ask me why.
How many people do you know talk about this? Not a lot. I can promise you, not a lot. Christian content does way better on YouTube than agnostic or atheist content will ever do because they receive so much support.
Right? And here we are having people like me and Justin and Ian trying to show people of the beliefs of these so-called Christians. Right? And it's like, "Ah, why you doing this? You hate Jesus Christ. You're going to burn in hell."
And I would treat them correctly. Oh my god.
What the That's insane.
>> because the That's crazy.
>> that America has put on it through the 400 years that they owned slaves and how they treated them, people automatically think that's the assumption of owning a slave and how slaves are treated. They automatically think it's bad. But the English when England um populated India and Northern Africa, they didn't treat them that way. They were slaves. Well, but I I want to continue this, but before we do, Aaron, thank you so much for the $50 super chat. Also >> for him slavery's only bad when the people are treated badly.
But I'm sure if Justin asked him, "Would you like to be a slave if you treated good?" He'd probably say no.
And that's where the lack of empathy comes in.
Right?
A walking, a living, breathing human being, I bleed the same way he bleeds.
Right?
Like we all share the human experience.
Yet he believes that somebody can be somebody else's property.
So far as they're not treated badly.
If that ain't some backwards thinking, bro, I really couldn't tell you what it is, bro.
I really couldn't tell you what it is, bro.
Jesus Christ.
Like school education, I don't even know if education can fix this cuz this is just dogmatic beliefs that's just showing itself out to the world right now.
But cuz I would have said education is so important, but I don't know if you can even fix it.
Fellow Dragon, big W for that Aaron.
Aaron says, "Your secular Bible study is the best. We appreciate you so much." I really appreciate you as well. Big W, I appreciate that.
>> you, too, sir. I appreciate [snorts] you, too.
>> David, are you suggesting then that slavery wasn't so bad?
The treatment of the slaves in American culture was bad. The treatment of the slaves in the West Indian and Caribbean culture was bad. Should we be allowed to sell our daughters as slaves?
Like, if I have a daughter, cuz Exodus says if a man sells his daughter to be a female slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. Obviously, she gets to be >> Correctly. There you go. She gets to be yes. So, we should be allowed to sell our female daughters our our our children as slaves without their consent.
That is under the Hebrew law. It is different than American law.
>> Okay, so we should be allowed to do it then.
Yes. Wait, David, would would you be What?
What?
>> [laughter] >> What?
What are we doing? What What is he talking Oh my god, bro.
okay with being owned as property?
>> Good question.
I'm owned right now. You shouldn't You should see my job. I'm I'm very much owned. I know. You're underpaid.
You're getting owned.
Okay, Justin, you're funny.
This is a great metaphor. We're talking about literal like literally owned.
Would you be okay with literally being legally owned?
Jesus owns me now. Yes, I would be okay with being owned.
Yeah, it doesn't go that way.
>> Would you be my slave, David?
If you treated me right, absolutely. Oh, dear God. Tyler, thank you for Any any anything anything to protect that dogmatic belief. Anything.
Jesus.
Oh my days, dog. Anything.
Don't say anything to not go against what they believe. Anything.
So, I was wrong. You know, I said that if you asked him if he was going to be somebody's slave, he'd probably say no.
But, to protect his beliefs, he would say yes. If I'm treated right.
Maybe education might fix this guy, actually. Educating him on what slavery actually is, on what being somebody's property and not having freedom actually is. Cuz America's all about freedom.
Land of the free. Freedom of speech.
All right? Imagine this guy was somebody's slave that doesn't even have any freedom and anything.
Like, I don't think he understands that I like I don't believe he understand what being a slave is.
I don't think so. For the $5 Tyler says, "Uh Christianity is a effing joke and David is the proof." And listen, David, I love you, but um you you lost me at slavery is cool and that women should be executed for not being virgins and He said that, too?
I got to find that segment.
I got to find that segment. But, hey man, same man.
Hey man, same man. I mean, is there need I say more?
Need need I need I say anything else?
Like, quite literally, need I say more?
I mean, obviously, I know all Christians don't share that same belief, but these are the ones that go on to these lives to debate.
Imagine embarrassing yourself on live in such manner.
Slavery is cool if they're treated right.
Disgusting.
Disgusting. Anyways though, bro, let me know your thoughts in the comments. I mean, I have to say it, but do you think he's we he made sense?
Don't answer that.
Don't answer that.
Binge my videos and like, subscribe so I can see you on the next one, though, GANG. PEACE, LOVE, >> [groaning] >> AND SAFETY TO YOU, my friends.
>> [snorts] >> Peace out, man.
Damn.
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