CRAZY KAREN CALLS COPS OVER FILMING AND INSTANTLY REGRETS IT| ID Refusal Cops

[00:00:00]We're under investigation.

[00:00:01]>> Remove you otherwise.

[00:00:03]>> So you're trying to say he doesn't want to.

[00:00:04]>> So if we do not leave, you will try to violate our rights under threat of arrest >> for uh trespassing.

[00:00:12]>> Why not be invasive today? You know >> why not what?

[00:00:15]>> Be invasive today. You just wake up and you're like, I'm going to be invasive.

[00:00:20]>> Be evasive.

[00:00:21]>> Invasive.

[00:00:22]>> Oh, be invasive.

[00:00:23]>> Invasive.

[00:00:27]Today we're heading to two very [music] different locations. A women's correctional facility in Mitchellville, Iowa, and a busy Starbucks in Kalamazoo, [music] Michigan. What starts as a simple camera quickly turns into confrontation, accusations, and calls [music] to law enforcement. These officials and citizens may have gone too far when demanding answers and challenging the right to record. [music] In the first video, tensions rise outside a state prison as officials attempt to stop filming. In the second, everyday customers react emotionally when they realize they're being recorded in public. Both videos [music] come from creators dedicated to documenting public interactions and helping educate people about civil liberties and government accountability. But the question remains, will these people respect the camera or will they escalate the situation? [music] Before we begin, be sure to subscribe to the original creators. You'll find their links in the description below. Let them know that ID refusal cops sent [music] you and that we support civil rights, transparency, and public accountability.

[00:01:28]Stay until the end because these encounters take unexpected turns [music] and you're almost guaranteed to leave with strong opinions about what happened.

[00:01:35]>> So, you're now on prison property.

[00:01:37]>> Although I don't have any So, understand, listen to me.

[00:01:40]>> I have anything to do with that.

[00:01:42]>> This is not like your going into the post office, right?

[00:01:47]>> Or city hall. We will wait outside then if you can get us jail.

[00:01:51]>> Well, here here's what here's what they tell me. There's a process you have to go through in writing to find out if the inmate is here and then you have to set up a visitation.

[00:01:59]>> Can't they just tell us?

[00:02:00]>> Why can't we get to freedom of freedom of >> bring someone out here that can help?

[00:02:06]>> Captain, you guys aren't allowed to aren't allowed to film here.

[00:02:13]>> We we not we not filming. How does news agency come here? If they need a story, >> they have to have permission from the Google.

[00:02:21]>> So the the first amendment does not work here.

[00:02:24]>> Do you have that policy on you by chance to shut the cameras off?

[00:02:27]>> Do you have the policy on you?

[00:02:29]>> That is you're violating rights, man.

[00:02:31]That's not acceptable.

[00:02:32]>> Can you please get us a roster so we can >> one jail roster? We are a news agency.

[00:02:38]>> I want to find my wife.

[00:02:40]>> Go ahead and reach out to Iowa Department of Correctional Center. I've been I've been to many of all of them.

[00:02:46]>> There you go.

[00:02:47]>> And I've been This is only unprofessional here.

[00:02:50]>> He's the only unprofessional.

[00:02:52]>> He does not know First Amendment.

[00:02:54]>> And uh you guys have a good day.

[00:02:57]>> So you want not to find my wife.

[00:02:59]>> So the no public can come here if they need jail roster.

[00:03:03]>> Not during uh non-visiting hours. So >> So when >> when is visiting hour?

[00:03:09]>> You can check on a website.

[00:03:10]>> Internet against religion.

[00:03:12]>> I'm sorry. We can't help you with that then.

[00:03:14]>> So, you're trying to violate First Amendment?

[00:03:18]>> Yes.

[00:03:19]>> Do you spit on graves of actual heroes who fought and died for our rights?

[00:03:24]>> Do you spit on the graves?

[00:03:26]>> You do.

[00:03:26]>> We appreciate your cooperation.

[00:03:28]>> You are tyrant and you are disgusting.

[00:03:31]Failed American. Not good, man.

[00:03:33]>> So, >> unacceptable.

[00:03:35]>> That's the That's the term. So, >> unaccept you are bad too. Do you beat the women in here?

[00:03:40]>> You are under investigation. remove you otherwise.

[00:03:43]>> So you're trying to say >> he doesn't want to.

[00:03:45]>> So if we do not leave, you will try to violate our rights under threat of arrest >> for uh trespassing.

[00:03:52]>> The tension [music] reaches a new level when officials suggest the auditors could be removed from public property.

[00:03:58]Notice how the discussion immediately shifts from [music] conduct to cameras.

[00:04:03]The demand for media credentials raises an important question because the first amendment [music] generally protects individuals and independent journalists alike. Under [music] landmark cases such as Bransburg v Hayes, courts have repeatedly declined to create a licensing system [music] for journalists. The real issue isn't who is holding the camera. It's whether the government can lawfully restrict protected [music] activity.

[00:04:26]>> Yes, sir. Good.

[00:04:27]>> Oh, because we because we video.

[00:04:32]Is this why?

[00:04:34]>> Why? Just asking you to leave, sir.

[00:04:36]>> If Is it video though?

[00:04:38]>> No video.

[00:04:38]>> You to leave, sir. That's all we're asking.

[00:04:40]>> Because But what's the reason?

[00:04:42]>> We're asking you to leave, sir. What's the reason through this? So, >> so you admit that it's because camera.

[00:04:47]>> I'm not saying anything.

[00:04:48]>> You did say it was camera.

[00:04:50]>> I didn't say anything about a camera.

[00:04:51]>> You realize we have to break a law to be kicked off of public property.

[00:04:55]>> Yeah. This is state property.

[00:04:56]>> That means public. Correct. That's public.

[00:04:59]>> Public.

[00:04:59]>> It's amazing. You do not know the simple job that you have.

[00:05:02]>> Who pays your salary? Is it public or is it private?

[00:05:05]>> I need you to leave, please.

[00:05:06]>> So, you're trying to violate our rights.

[00:05:08]>> You get paid from public funds.

[00:05:10]>> We just want the jail roster, man. We are news.

[00:05:13]>> Do you understand this?

[00:05:15]>> I went the same way.

[00:05:16]>> Have your media credentials.

[00:05:17]>> There's no such thing. Are you that dumb? It's first amendment. Do you not know the five freedoms in the first amendment? Of course you don't. That's a shame. Failed American. Very bad. You should go where I live. Jalalabad.

[00:05:31]Very disgraceful.

[00:05:33]>> Failed American. I will have you in lawsuit. Then >> they should they should be better off at uh North Korea.

[00:05:39]>> Where are from?

[00:05:40]>> North Korea.

[00:05:43]>> Very unacceptable. All we need is jail roster. We'll leave. Is this acceptable?

[00:05:48]>> It's not something we'll be providing you. But if you want to reach out to central office, >> we don't. We are here. We are here. Can you not do your job, man?

[00:05:56]>> You refuse. You refuse service to public.

[00:05:59]>> Is that what you do?

[00:06:00]>> I directed you to where you could obtain the information.

[00:06:03]>> This is police chief. They are very bad, man.

[00:06:06]>> Do you have >> I understand you were understand that they have rules set by the state of Iowa prison system, right?

[00:06:12]>> Yes. I've been to all of them. Sir, >> and we've had the conversation about the fact the signage out there says this is for visitor >> for visit. Yes, we are visitors.

[00:06:20]>> So, well, hold on.

[00:06:21]>> But they've explained that they have rules for visitation, right? They say go online, but we are here. We don't do online.

[00:06:27]>> I get that. I get that. And that's between you and them. But they're telling you what the rules are for the system, right?

[00:06:33]>> That's the number one.

[00:06:34]>> Which they have the right to and you and you know that they have the right to create rules for the system.

[00:06:39]>> So, you know, it's like if you come and ask me for a public records request.

[00:06:43]Yes. Right. Our city rules say I have 10 to 20 days to respond to that request.

[00:06:48]>> No, that's not that's by the law. Iowa Open Records Act, that's not true. You have by Iowa open record act 10 business days you have the right to yeah 10 yes >> yes sir >> okay so you understand what I'm saying >> yes the same kind of rules >> but that's that's law and this is policy there's big difference >> huge difference I sir that's why we're having a different discussion than we would be having so >> this may be the most revealing moment in the entire [music] encounter one official states that his job is to protect first amendment rights while another explains [music] that the facility is under lockdown because of the filming activity. Across the United [music] States, correctional facilities often operate under special security policies, but those policies are [music] not automatically immune from constitutional scrutiny. Courts frequently balance [music] security interests against constitutional protections. The question viewers [music] should ask is simple. Was this restriction based on a legitimate security concern or was it triggered by the presence of a camera? [music] >> My job is to protect your First Amendment rights.

[00:07:50]>> Thank you, Senator. Yes. and and also to address what the warden's concerns are cuz right now she has a facility on complete lock down. So they say >> because of your activ. Do you understand that?

[00:07:59]>> Because our first amendment they say no news here. We abuse women in here. We not give you tell you who's in here. And you say I will trespass you. You go to jail because they hate the first amendment. Is that's this is what I'm understand.

[00:08:14]>> That isn't exactly what I heard him say, >> but 69% accuracy.

[00:08:18]>> State control property because it's correctional facility. Again, what did I say? It's not the post office. It's not a school.

[00:08:24]>> Not not federal post office. Right. You guys can go stand in my parking lot all day long. Right.

[00:08:29]>> Yes. But this is with visitor access.

[00:08:32]They don't want us here because of camera. Strictly camera.

[00:08:35]>> Well, I think it's a policy of DOC statewide.

[00:08:38]>> What's the policy? Is there a policy?

[00:08:40]>> No. No videotaping of any correctional facilities.

[00:08:43]>> I don't see any signs anywhere.

[00:08:44]>> There's no signage.

[00:08:46]>> The Iowa Department of Corrections.

[00:08:47]>> Can I get your name, sir?

[00:08:49]>> Yes. My name is Security Director Reichkes.

[00:08:52]>> Security Director Reichkes.

[00:08:53]>> Yes.

[00:08:54]>> Your badge number. Um if you want to reach out to um Mr. Carile with Iowa Department of Corrections who is in charge of communications especially if you are media primary contact >> the media you have to understand too the first amendment do you not know >> understand the first amendment >> do you know the five freedoms in it >> Iowa department of correction he can handle any media request that you guys have >> they don't care about me >> sir I have one thing to say this is number one but I have one more that is violation of our rights this is why America Because land of free. This is public access.

[00:09:31]>> Home of >> Yes. And why you not let us in? They're just uh going in public area. We not go no restricted. We don't do this. We just want jail roster.

[00:09:43]>> Well, like I said, that's the direction you can head to get that information.

[00:09:46]So, >> are you the one making decision or captain >> in regards to >> the not being able to get on this public access property?

[00:09:55]>> Okay.

[00:09:56]>> What's their name? There's one women's.

[00:09:58]>> So anyway, we do ask uh I think I've given you the information you needed. So >> So nobody cooperation. So >> but sir gentlemen, >> but you violated our rights.

[00:10:10]>> Do you spit on grave of brave heroes that fought and died for these rights?

[00:10:15]>> After watching officials and police debate cameras, policies, and public access [music] at an Iowa prison, you might think the next confrontation would involve government [music] employees again. But what happens when ordinary citizens react even more aggressively than the authorities? The next encounter may surprise you.

[00:10:32]>> Can I help you?

[00:10:34]>> Um, maybe like a venty with two cream and two sugar.

[00:10:38]>> Why are you filming?

[00:10:40]>> No, that's going to be it today.

[00:10:43]>> What?

[00:10:45]>> Oh, I thought you wanted to take my order.

[00:10:49]>> No, I'm just wondering what are you filming for?

[00:10:51]>> Does it matter?

[00:10:53]Are you allowed to dism?

[00:10:55]>> Absolutely.

[00:10:58]>> Are you a YouTuber?

[00:11:00]>> Uh, some might consider me. Sure.

[00:11:03]>> Cool. I love it. 2026, bro.

[00:11:08]>> Filming people.

[00:11:09]>> It's 2026. There you go. There are cameras everywhere.

[00:11:12]>> It's just, you know, why not be invasive today? You know, >> why not what?

[00:11:17]>> Be invasive today. You just wake up and you're like, I'm going to be invasive.

[00:11:22]Be evasive.

[00:11:23]>> Invasive.

[00:11:24]>> Oh, be invasive.

[00:11:26]>> Two deputies arrive after receiving complaints [music] from Starbucks customers. Notice what does not happen.

[00:11:32]There is no demand for identification and no detention. Under the Fourth Amendment [music] and the Supreme Court decision in Terry v. Ohio, officers generally need reasonable suspicion [music] before escalating an encounter into an investigative detention. Here, the [music] conversation remains voluntary.

[00:11:49]The officers provide a warning about potential trespass concerns [music] and then disengage.

[00:11:55]>> What? Like pull up to people and demand answers? Is that like invasive like that or?

[00:12:00]>> You literally just filmed me my entire process.

[00:12:02]>> Right. And now I feel invaded because you're invading my personal business and asking me what I'm doing.

[00:12:07]>> You can't handle it, can you?

[00:12:09]>> No, I can't. I feel terribly invaded.

[00:12:15]>> No, don't pull out the camera.

[00:12:17]>> Don't do it.

[00:12:18]>> I'm good. opponent.

[00:12:19]>> Oh, okay.

[00:12:37]With how cold and windy it is, I'm surprised she lasted out of her car for a minute.

[00:12:40]>> It's just it's just respect. I don't get it. Like just because we all have cameras in our pocket doesn't mean that we we should be doing this and treating other people like this. If it makes somebody uncomfortable, if they're asking a question, just respond nicely.

[00:12:55]>> Oh, like what? Like retaliating recording? [laughter] >> No, I'm just asking a question. You should have answered me. That's what it is to be nice to people.

[00:13:04]>> What? Like demanding answers and recording people back?

[00:13:07]>> Uncomfortable and I feel >> clearly not. You stayed out here. You're still talking to me. If you were uncomfortable, you would have left like 5 minutes ago.

[00:13:14]>> No, because I'm strong. I can handle it.

[00:13:16]>> So, you're not uncomfortable, right?

[00:13:17]Exactly.

[00:13:18]>> I was uncomfortable when you filmed me throughout my whole process, and I just want to know why.

[00:13:23]>> Okay.

[00:13:25]>> Do you think I have to tell you?

[00:13:27]>> No. I mean, obviously, you don't have to tell me.

[00:13:29]>> All righty then. So, we're on the same page.

[00:13:31]>> The fact that you won't tell me >> nothingfortable, right?

[00:13:41]Okay. Well, I hope you feel more comfortable. Okay. I I hope you feel better after your coffee. All right.

[00:13:47]>> Okay.

[00:13:48]>> You take it easy now. You have a good day, Karen.

[00:13:50]>> You have a good day, too.

[00:13:51]>> All right.

[00:14:23]A simple question turns into a debate about cameras, privacy, and social expectations. The most interesting [music] legal point is that being uncomfortable is not the same as being unlawfully [music] recorded. In many public-f facing areas, courts have recognized a reduced expectation [music] of privacy. The legal question is often not whether someone dislikes being filmed, [music] but whether the recording violates a specific law. Watch closely as emotion drives the conversation [music] far more than law.

[00:15:12]Two different locations, two completely different encounters. Yet both videos reveal the same truth. [music] The moment a camera appears, many people suddenly want rights to become optional.

[00:15:24]At a prison in [music] Iowa, officials struggled to explain where policy ends and constitutional protections begin. In Michigan, ordinary citizens reacted to a [music] camera with more emotion than law. Different settings, different people, the same question. Do we truly [music] support freedom when it becomes uncomfortable? That is why understanding your rights [music] matters. Not to provoke, not to escalate, but to recognize the difference between [music] authority and assumption, between policy and law. If you've ever been questioned for recording in public, pressured to identify [music] yourself without a legal basis, or watched someone misunderstand constitutional rights, tell us your story in the comments below. Like this video if you believe knowledge is power. Subscribe if you want to be better informed [music] before your rights are tested. And remember, you do not need permission to know your rights. You need the courage to exercise them responsibly. This is ID refusal cops where cameras document, citizens learn [music] and knowledge remains the strongest defense.