Orthodox Christianity teaches that authority to preach and evangelize comes through apostolic succession, meaning only those ordained within the historical Church lineage have legitimate authority to speak about Christ, as established by Jesus in Luke 10:16 and maintained through the laying on of hands as described in 1 Timothy, rather than through individual personal conviction or modern revival movements.
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None of the Protestants, they don't think about the actual progress of the church in the first, second, and third century. They think of it like apostles and Jesus and my church. They don't think about, well, you wouldn't have the Bible if it wasn't preserved and passed down in what are called apostolic seas.
That's the bishop ricks that the apostles set up when they went out in the Roman Empire. And they don't even think about the fact that some of these still exist. the church at Thessaloni, the church at Ephesus.
>> It's a pleasure, sir, speaking with you.
Can you hear me?
>> Yes, sir. Pleasure to speak to you, too.
>> Yes. Um, evangelism, I don't know uh the definition, but um isn't it isn't it just sharing um sharing Jesus with people who uh may have not heard about Jesus?
>> No. I mean, that's the Protestant evangelical idea, but that's not the traditional Christian position on what ev what evangelism is.
>> And it goes back to you're not sharing Jesus. We got to really hammer home that that's why Christ says, "Who do you say that I am?"
>> There's no Jesus outside Orthodox. So, >> we don't know what referring to.
>> So, like, uh, these disciples, can you all still hear me?
>> Yeah. these disciples before there was documents, just the just the eyewitness disciples when they spoke to people about Jesus who didn't witness Jesus.
Um, isn't that I I don't know what evangelism means. I don't know any Greek. I don't know any Latin. I don't know the I don't know the rules of grammar. Sorry if that is offending you all.
>> By the way, they were called >> Why would that be offending me? Aposto sent. That's why early on when people were trying to evangelize about Jesus, they asked, "Who sent you?"
>> Yeah.
>> So, none of these people have the authority and should not be talking about Jesus. The reason why is they're not apostolic. They're not sent. They have no authority and they're not referring to Jesus.
>> They're referring to a false Jesus. I I'm I'm not familiar with the term the specific terminology, but I do know that Jesus is a historic individual who was a teacher and had students and I believe his students to share uh with with the masses of >> right so in Luke 10 >> if you're not ordained >> I'm aposto >> if you're not ordained in the Orthodox church you're not a disciple you You can't, you have no authority to talk about Christ and share. Christ sent people. That's why they were called aposto. He didn't say, "Now everybody just go and do whatever you want."
>> So in Luke 10, Jesus says in Luke 10:16, "He who hears you hears me. He who rejects you rejects me, and he rejects me rejects him who sent me." He's saying this to the apostles in terms of their commission to go out with the apostolic authority to tread on serpents and scorpions and to preach the gospel and to baptize the nations eventually by Matthew 28. So that's what father deacon is getting at is that there's an apostolic mandate. And the next point of this argument though is that when you look at what Paul says to Timothy in 1 and 2 Timothy, he says, "I laid hands on you. I gave you three years of kateesus." He says, "Pass on all the things that you heard from me in the presence of many witnesses and you lay hands on men after you because the gift of the Holy Spirit is transferred through the laying on of hands." So that's the succession that goes along with Luke 10:16 of apostolic succession.
That's why in Acts 1, they ordain a successor to Judas's office, which if there were no successor to the apostles, why would they ordain a successor to his office? So the point is that then when you go to the early uh post-apos fathers when you read Ignatius, Erynaeus, Clement, Polycarp etc. you get the same message that they were commissioned. No Protestant has been commissioned by any of these people.
>> Yes sir. So whenever whenever people say Jesus has said to treat people how you want to be treated when people that Jesus said to forgive your enemies. When people say, "We saw Jesus be tortured and murdered and we saw him on his feet tortured and murdered." No one should be saying those things unless they are a direct student of Jesus. Is that kind of what you're saying? Like we shouldn't even be saying like Jesus was direct.
>> No. Everybody in church history who's under apostolic succession has that authority. That's the point. Not just the first century. So the successors of the apostles at the council of Nika, they had the authority to do that. Now people can share the gospel at their orthodox with their friends. Sure, that's not what we're talking about.
We're talking about the authority to be in the uh hierarchy. That's the point here. Not everybody is a hierarch because there's a priesthood of believers. There's also an episcopate.
>> Okay. Thank you. I only have one more question. So if the Holy Spirit is uh is a real being who is not material um can that be in people's hearts and be shared from person and soften people?
>> Yeah, that that happens to everybody who becomes a member of the church. But remember Jesus sent the Holy Spirit on an actual historical group of people in Acts 2, the apostles, right? and Pentecost. Protestants think of Pentecost as the revival at their church. Now, Pentecost is a redemptive historical event that fulfills the feast of in gathering, the feast of tabernacles, the feast of weeks. So, it has a specific theological redemptive historical fulfillment. It's the fulfillment of the book of Joel. Joel says, "In the last days, I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh and your sons and your daughters will see visions, etc." That's not the end of the time, end of time. That's what evangelicals because they don't know this. They miss the church don't interpret that about the first advent when Acts two says clear day as day that Joel is being fulfilled at Pentecost happening right there in Acts two. And all the evangelicals just assume no that's talking to me personally sharing the gospel with my friends. And as Gavin Ortland says, Pentecost is whenever a church just springs up. No, it's not.
Brandon, what's up? People don't even I'm not fussing at that guy. I'm not mad at that guy. But I'm saying like we don't none of the Protestants just like when I'm uh discussing with Top Lobster today who who's a a good guy. I like him. He's a friendly guy. We've we've hung out. They don't think about the actual progress of the church in the first, second, and third century. They think of it like apostles and Jesus and my church, right? They don't think about, well, you wouldn't have the Bible if it wasn't preserved and passed down in what are called apostolic seas.
That's the bishop ricks that the apostles set up when they went out in the Roman Empire. And they don't even think about the fact that some of these still exist. The church at Thessaloni, the church at Ephesus, right? Those are still Orthodox churches existing. The church at the Antioch, Syrian Antioch.
So, for example, you'll get Doug Wilson and Peter Lighheart. They'll talk all day long about a a visible covenant that all the members are part of. And that's why you could have pato communion. It's abstracted from actual history. Okay, Doug, where was that visible covenant in the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth century? And it immediately falls apart because it's obviously not amongst all the groups that claim to be Christians. It's not amongst the Aryans.
It's not amongst the Sebellians. It's not amongst the notorians. It's not amongst the Monophysites. But from Doug Wilson's argumentation just with that low tier abstracted from the Bible perspective, oh look, uh, everybody's in the covenant when they're when they're baptized. Yeah, but that doesn't mean that everything happening outside the visible historical church is thus recognized. That's the fallacy there. So they'll take all these arguments about one vine, one uh sheepfold, one tree that you're grafted in or out of, one kingdom, one body, one Lord, one faith, one baptism, and they don't apply it to the second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth century. Once you do, it's over for all of this. All this Protestant evangelical stuff is over. Unless you want to go with the deluded histrionic feminist maniacs that are have actually won the reformation, the radical reformers, then you can go be a woman preacher jibbering away and barking like a dog like Paula White because you realize that, oh, I guess the church did die, right? So, you either have to do apostasy in the first century and become a restorationist. By the way, that's how Mormons came about. Mormonism is a restorationist cult because he's just picking up what the radical reformers before him already said. The church died. We're going to resurrect it and fix it. The kingdom died. Everybody knows Matthew 16:16 to 18 refused this.
The gates of hell will never prevail against the church. Jesus says, "I will send the Holy Spirit. I will be with you and lead you and guide you until the end. I will be with you until I will not leave as orphans." When did the Holy Spirit just depart? So don't you understand idiot Baptist that would refute the promise of the presence of the church amongst the visible historical society. And what's crazy about this is the same Protestants and evangelicals who will tout inspiration of the scriptures then suddenly become skeptics and unbelievers as if God couldn't preserve a church. So God could preserve the book and preserve Paul's writings even though there's no autograph by the way and preserve that for the first, second, third, fourth, fifth century, but he couldn't preserve a church. If he can preserve the book, he can preserve a church. Duh. I mean, all of these arguments are so silly from the from the Baptist and from the especially. But look, Redeem Zoomer, these people, they aren't they don't really represent today's Christianity.
Today's Christianity, 90% of it probably is radical reformation. It's lunatics, gibbering maniacs, uneducated fools, don't know anything about history, don't know anything about church history, don't know anything about how you do interpretation of various types of literature in books. So, they don't know how to do hermeneutics. They just pick up the book and start reading it. And God moved me and my feelings are God.
And that's why those groups are full of women pastors because it's all based on emotions and feels.
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