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Raising Kanan: No Trailer, Nemesis Review, Raq Street Killaz Rise & She Survives! 📱Added:
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Oh [ __ ] No, my thing supposed to been uh No, it said 9:30. I know why it said 9.
All right, though. We about to go to go ahead and get started. Everybody else going to have to just catch up.
Shout out to everybody that's up in here. Make sure y'all go ahead and hit that like button.
Oh, that didn't add it to my uh I guess it did say. Dang.
Did you think Malik smashed Candace and Nemesis?
Hey, it seemed like it. It seemed like it. I'mma say that. What's up, Tia?
You said raising Kanan Trey is on your birthday, right? Your birthday is when again remind me.
It's crazy. I'm norally really good at birthday.
I don't I remember his in May for sure.
I remember you was a Gemini 29th.
Yeah, it better be before you if they give us one.
It better be It better be the 29th. Gotcha. I remember that.
It better be before then. Just saying if they give us one.
I see that we getting a few nemesis questions. Let's go ahead and and focus on the first one that we got. We We'll get there.
Right now, we gonna talk about why the hell we ain't got no trailer yet. Hold up. Let me put that up.
All right, we're gonna talk about we ain't got no goddamn trailer yet.
Now, first off, I don't know what the hell's been up with my internet connection or whether it's Streamyard. I honestly don't know what the situation is, but my um quality has been incredibly bad.
Like, um I had made an individual video on this regarding the trailer, but I didn't put it out yet because the damn quality looks so bad.
What's up, Ronald?
>> Hey, what's going on? Are we talking about just I saw the first episode of Nemesis. Is that what we talking about?
>> We probably gonna talk about the whole thing. You know, Netflix release all at once.
>> Yeah. I wish E Nemesis would do one episode at a at a time, but unfortunately >> Okay. Well, I'm in the middle of episode, too, so >> Well, it's it's pretty good, though.
What did you think of the first episode before we >> It was It was suspenseful with them heist and robberies and stuff. I liked it.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah, it was pretty good. and and he had that little twist already >> with the with the two wives.
>> Yeah, >> but I haven't seen >> I was about to go I was about to go into it a little bit more, but like I said, I'm on the first first do that. But anyways, who knows? Maybe I will try to focus more on the first half of it for people because it seems like there's a lot of people that hasn't Let me ask this chat before I um continue on the raising Kanan trailer.
How many people in the chat right now hasn't seen the full um Nemesis series yet? I know um I know me Demarcus she's not in here right now but I mean she played it on the Discord but I know even she was saying she needs to give it a a rewatch. It seems like a lot of people snoozing through it and I would hope the snoozing isn't because they didn't think it was good because it was it's pretty damn good. But uh >> how many episodes did you see?
>> I seen all of them.
>> Oh, >> yeah. It's it's eight in total.
>> I a time for all that.
>> It just came out the other night, didn't it?
>> You said, "Who cares about Kanan now?"
Me, [ __ ] Amos Amos don't look like Well, I mean, he got a high top like the [ __ ] Was that the whole season or the first part of season like Beauty and I believe that's the whole season cuz you know one thing about cuz Beauty and Black is 30 minutes.
>> 30 minutes >> I believe so. Right. Isn't it? It's 30 minutes. Right.
>> No, >> it's an hour.
It's been an hour so far.
>> Okay, maybe I'm tripping. My bad.
>> But they dropped most of theirs, too.
Um, >> but one thing about Tyler Perry has always been like that. Tyler Perry do two parts to his seasons. His seasons are always long.
>> Like he did it for um Halves and a half not. He do it for the oval.
and now he's doing it for beauty and black.
So that that's pretty standard for him.
All right. So, let's go ahead and talk about this trailer, though. So, as we know, normally there's a trailer within like a month away from, you know, the actual show airing.
But this time they decide to [ __ ] play with us.
And in my opinion, I think it's only one explanation.
The reason why they didn't give us a trailer.
So the reason I think they're not giving us a trailer is is it's a mixture of two things. So one, I think we can almost assure guarantee that Rock is alive.
Reason why I say this is because I believe they didn't give us a trailer due to trying to cover up a lot of stuff.
And I think it's going to be hard for them to give us a entertaining enough trailer without spoiling things because and getting how I live touched on this too. I I noticed that he he said this. I watched the video of his. He said that um you know Forest if you can remember kind of gave away a lot in Day Trailer and actually um book two Ghost did the same thing.
They um they gave too much in their trailers and people like me, Getting How I Live, um Top Knots to watch, uh [ __ ] Detroit Kings, Breo, all of us, you know, were damn near working together. And then, you know, for the most part, most of us watch each other's videos as well, Nate Almighty. And then we'll watch each other's videos and we'll come up with our own conclusions and then we might watch somebody else stuff notice something that we didn't notice and then that helps us get a clue to something you and then we we piece it all together and a lot of the stuff we was able to figure it out, right? So they was like, "No, we ain't gonna have these little ass [ __ ] doing that [ __ ] for season five because this is something we really trying to protect."
So, we're not going to give these [ __ ] a trailer.
That's what I'm starting to think it is.
Like I said, Rock, they're trying to hide Rock.
And I think another character that they're trying to hide is Lulu.
You pay attention throughout all the stuff that they've been giving out. Who are the characters that are limited the most? Obviously, we haven't seen Rock at all.
And Lou, we only seen him one photo.
So, Rock, they're they're hiding for obvious reasons. They don't want to give it away that she's alive.
But Lou, they could be not showing him because he's gonna have a major twist to be Ghost dad [ __ ] >> No, he gonna find out who his real mama is.
>> Hell no. His mama is is George. His mama is in the grave in the morning. It's over.
But I looked at a interview with um I looked at um a interview with London Brown. He was on some show. I can't remember what it was, but he pretty much confirmed that he said he's definitely going to pay a lot more attention to this particular season because he said it's going to be pretty good and there's going to be a lot of twists and turns up in this particular season. He's like that you're not going to see Khan.
So pretty much I think he's confirming that a lot is going to be revealed in this season that we probably didn't think of or possibly a couple of it that we was wondering about but never got the answers to.
Now a lot of people would probably think that but it's eight episodes.
True. And something I hope that they do is give us two hours long on on an episode or two.
Yeah. Or even if it's not two hours long, if they can just make it an hour and something, it it could end up still giving you the same length as a, you know, 10 episode series cuz a lot of times they've been robbing us on this watch time making that [ __ ] 50 something minutes. So if all of them is an hour 10ish, it can it'll be close to the same as you getting that escort two two or if it's an hour 20 or hour whatever because I one thing I know about All American, right?
All American is in their final season and they said they're going to start their theirs off with a 2hour long first episode and something else that I'm noticing and it might not be a um hour two hour long. I'm not saying that it will but I'm just saying who knows they might extend the length of them a little bit.
If you pay attention, um, a lot of these shows, pay attention to what's going on. A lot of these shows are cutting their episodes.
Um, Beauty and Black, the last season, they say it's only going to be six.
Bair, the final season was only eight.
And now we're getting Raising Kanan, the last one, eight.
So, it seems as if this the um studios are trying to cut back on the cost by by shortening the episodes.
And see, for Beauty and Black, I mean, for back to Bair, I noticed with Bair, remember the last episode, Will Smith was in it.
For those of y'all that watch at Bel Air, Will Smith was in the final episode. We know Will Smith is not cheap at all.
So, I think the same thing could possibly be going on with this raising Kanan situation, >> but he's an executive producer on the show.
>> Sure, but he's still going to gonna get a check.
You think they just because they executive producer, they're not going to pay themselves? They are.
[ __ ] 50 Cent was executive producer on Bow. You think that [ __ ] wasn't getting paid? He was.
>> I just guess y'all think they wouldn't bankrupt the production just so they can show up on there. But >> because you got to think about it, Will Smith, everybody was talking about the show, how Will Smith, because it was on I I remember it being on a lot of headlines, how Will was on the last episode, how they ended it.
So they're gonna Yeah, they're gonna they It's possible like they kind of if you look at it from a sports um perspective, how in certain like I'm an NBA guy, so in the NBA, if you're a big- time superstar and you want to keep your team together, you might take a pay cut so that the team can stay together, but you still going to want your check. So it might be someone like that like let's say you know like we'll probably like okay normally when I show up and keep in mind this is a television opposed to to a um a movie because movies you know you're going to get paid more.
Um let's say normally standard rate for him got to be at least a million I would say. Let's say he he decide, "All right, I'll do it for 500K."
Now, that's still a good grip of money.
However, since it's only one episode, they could do it.
Now, that's if he did that because I know I do know 50 Cent took didn't take that much when it came to the first season of Power. Now, perhaps once it got bigger, he may have took his, you know, took his share.
And I think the same thing could be going on with the Patina Miller and Shamik Moore situation.
She Moore is going to cost an awful lot.
And the fact that, you know, Rock is still there, obviously with her being the lead, she's going to cause a lot with it being their fifth season. And then keep in mind, look at how many characters are still alive that's been here since season one. That means all of them's pay has increased. You got Rock, Marvin, um Lou, Unique, Kanan, Jukebox, um Panessa.
Who else been there since season one?
I think that might be it since been since season one.
>> But anyways, my point is you got a lot of characters that's been here for quite a while that that their cost is going to go up. So, in order to cut back on that cost, you eliminate two episodes.
So that's what's going on with the eight lens. I think the eight episodes and the reason for no trailer. It kind of makes sense now. I still hope they give us a trailer. [ __ ] Let me read. I got a lot of comments there. I think they already gave away.
I mean, what they we know Panessa survived. We know Stephanie survived, >> right?
>> They probably should have kept all of it under wraps.
>> But but see, those are two kind of side characters. You can give that away.
You don't want to give away the identity of your >> important but it's important to the storyline.
That's that's important to know that Panessa got is out some kind of way.
>> Not really. I don't think so.
Now with Forest them giving it away in the trailer that that um uh JP dies like all you got to do is know where to look and piece it together along with the exclusive clips that they released.
We were able to put it together. Okay, JP is dead.
That's major. It was the biggest death of the season.
Vanessa, even if she died, it wouldn't have mattered that much. We would have been like, "Damn, boohoo." But that been it. Nobody cares.
You You feel me? But for JP, it was pretty big according to that storyline what was going on. And >> it was that one was predictable though.
>> It was predictable. I agree. But a a lot of reason why it was predictable was because of the trailer.
We didn't get no trailer. We we would we could have maybe thought about him dying because with it being the final season, you would think, okay, yeah, he probably gone. But, you know, it still been speculation.
You still would have been thinking about, oh, Kate might die.
Maybe maybe u and then also keep in mind they did something else. Remember at the beginning Tommy was saying uh him and Gary Lennon figured out they weren't telling the complete story but don't worry Tommy's journey is far from over. They pretty much gave it away that Tommy doesn't die right there.
>> You don't think Diamond's death was a bigger deal than JP?
Well, I kind of knew if you pay attention to my death preditions in the beginning of Force, I said Diamond was going to die and I said Jard was going to survive. I was 100% right.
This is way before we even got the trailer because you could tell the way it was going. JP, I mean, um, um, Chris Loftton is a bigger actor.
He's a He's a better actor than, um, uh, Isaac, you know, Isaac Hayes. Isaac did a, you know, he did a fairly good job that final season. But >> Isaac Hayes, >> you know what I mean? Isaac Keys. My bad. Thinking about Memphis for a second. Yeah.
you know, he's a he's a better actor and he was bigger to the story. So, you want to keep him around with us knowing that a spin-off was coming. We kind of knew that, right? That's what let me know, okay, he's going to die. He's going to survive and turned out to be right about that.
But like I said, it's the it's the promos and the trailers that gave everything away. what the teasers that that raising Kanan has gave us so far.
We can't really too much dictate anything without that.
Only thing I got from um what they given us so far is Kanan is going to get his ass whooped.
That's pretty much what we got.
And we made speculations that Marvin is going to die.
No, nothing's no no kind of slam dunk that guarantees it, but it, you know, we could speculate it from the fact that they had him as the voice over for the last teaser they gave us and also the fact that we seen Jukebox crying like that. Um, we we assumed Marvin probably has died, right? But we don't have nothing that can give us assurance on it. Force and book two gave us insurance that this is what's going to happen.
>> Don't you think we'll see uh Treymont this season?
>> We probably will. The fact that they announced that he's, you know, in Origins, >> what do you think he's going to do this season? He might be the one that went after Rock or that ends up He's got plenty of reason to go after Rock and and U Marvin.
>> Yeah.
>> And then it never made sense that they let him live after beating him down like that.
>> So Trey Munt to me seems like the type that a snitch, right? He looks like a snitch type to me. If he gets in the right um you know in the position where they got him cornered and there's no way out, he'll snitch to get out, right? So I could see him because keep in mind he does have ties to he knows who Rock's supplier is because they got it from him.
He knows about the Thomas organization.
He um let me see what else does he know.
He he knows enough knowledge to be able to put away a lot of people.
So, it could end up, you know, a lot of the mobsters get arrested because we know there's going to be a time period where a lot of them do get arrested because the original power told us that.
So, that could happen. And then, you know, Rock use her get out of jail free card because, keep in mind, he talked about that the beginning of season 4.
So, I can see that happening. I don't think Marvin is going to go go to jail.
He's already been before. He's like, "Nah, I ain't going back." So, I can see him going out like Kanan perhaps.
Um, >> so I'm kind of I'm kind of on the same page as Demarcus about Trey.
>> It's a lot of comments I haven't looked at yet. Let me look at a couple of them.
>> He said Traymon would eliminate Rock. I think that's a viable theory.
Maybe. And I got I got a I got a theory about that. I kind of wanted to wait till I get to that third segment, >> okay, >> before I I really um talk about it.
>> Okay, we're just talking about the trailer. Well, that could be another character they hiding by not having the trailer come out.
Um, another reason could be the reason why they're hiding this trailer.
Breeze.
Um, as much as I hate to say this, there is a possibility that Breeze might die in one season.
I think the possibility of that has increased.
It's got to suck to me.
But yeah, but >> well, if he dies this season, then we're gonna have to see even a younger version of of Jamie, right?
>> Yeah, we would.
>> If we see his death, there you go. So, back to what I originally said, I think they're going to just show him dead, but not show the actual death.
Like, you saw how Kanan in the original Power was trying to set up Tariq so that he can shoot him in the back of the head.
So, I'm assuming he miss he they he they may have found his body dead in a chair or something, right?
So, perhaps at the end of this season, they show him dead in a chair, but don't exactly show us what happened to him. And then the narrator could show up like, you know, 50 Cent show up, do some narrating talking about, you know, him being dead, what have happened, what could have possibly happened that led to it, and then he end the story there. And we got to wait till Origins to find out.
That's what I I'm leaning towards.
That's what they're going to do. Also, I'm pretty sure they're going to do a Flash I mean a time jump.
That's also what I'm getting from the no trailer. The fact that they're going to be doing a time jump, right? Certain parts of it would have to be based in the late mid 90s, right? So maybe that last episode or two we're going to see young young Ghost and Tommy.
probably just the last episode, but you know, obviously they can't show those characters because that would identify some things.
So that's it's way too much that they have to conceal.
So they're like, "Hell no, no trailer."
I think it's going to be good, but I still at the same time believe we gonna feel kind of shorted because that's that's a lot of lot of story. It's a whole storyline as to why what motivated Jamie to go out to kill Breathe, >> right? And I think we're going to get that in Origins.
Look, look at this.
>> You said what?
>> In 2002.
>> No. No. flashback >> in a flashback. Yes.
Because keep in mind, remember I did a video on this or or I talked about it on live, whichever one it was. One of the characters, I can't remember which one it was, but one of the characters on their ex channel pretty much confirmed that Origins is taking place in the late 90s and the early 2000s.
So that lets us know there it's going to be a flashback.
So with that being said, um more than likely that first half of the of the um show is going to be putting the pieces in uh together of you know h how and why Um, the Thomas family went down because keep in mind in the synopsis, I don't know, have y'all seen the synopsis already?
>> Yeah. All right.
>> Okay. So, you know, they tell you in the synopsis that the Thomas downfall is coming >> and you're going to get the rise of Kanan and Breeze.
Now, downfall could mean a couple of things, but more than likely with the show that we're dealing with, we know what the downfall mean.
Let me let me catch up on these comments really fast. I know they're building up.
The writers don't want y'all to guess what's going on. Raising Canon. Yep. The writers want y'all to talk about Nemesis for a couple of weeks before they drop the trailer. raising canon. That could be it too, Demarcus. That's actually a good That's a good point.
You gotta keep in mind like I see a lot of people saying that Courtney isn't involved with Power anymore. She's doing Netflix. That's not true.
Is she the head writer of it? No. But she still is involved. You pay attention every episode, it still says executive producer Courtney A. Kemp at the end of it. still says it. And also, like I told you, my homie that was in Raising Kanan, he told me during their table read, Courtney Kemp was present. So, that lets you know she is still involved. So, if Courtney Kemp is still involved with the show, and keep in mind, she's the creator.
So, she would want to make sure Nemesis gets his buzz before um before they drop the trailer of Raising Kanan because they you know raising Canon is the big fish. That's what everybody's waiting on. So, if she would they would have dropped Yeah, that that honestly Demarcus you probably hit it right on the nail. That's probably what it is. I don't know why the hell I didn't think of that, but that's more than likely the case of what it is. They didn't want Raising Kanan to steal from Nemesis.
So maybe expect that trailer this week because it's been out. Nemesis will not will be out a whole week then. And keep in mind, you just binge watching that.
It's not like it's one episode at a time.
So yep.
And even with um even with um Joseph Sakura, if you pay attention, it was it was the same thing. Although they didn't make us wait longer, but keep in mind, what was Joseph Sakuri involved in this this past um season?
He was he was on reasonable doubt.
Joseph Sakura is a executive producer for Forest. So he made sure re reasonable doubt was done before they dropped the trailer of RA of uh Forest because he didn't want them to he didn't want Forest to steal from reasonable doubt.
I saw pictures with Rock. Are those the same writers? Why would Kanan writers care about Nemesis?
Okay, I already addressed that. They promote Nemesis until June, then raising Ganon. I mean, I I don't think they're going to promote it until June. It's probably going to be another week top because I I think June is like pretty late. like you you only have a week left basically a week and a half left to uh promote Raising Kan and you don't want you don't want uh Raising Kanan to not get its promotion for the last season. So, if that's the case and they are going to give us a trailer, I would suspect uh one more week at the absolute most because you you want to give Raisin Kanan at least almost three weeks to promote from promotion. like raising Kanan.
Raising Kanan is big enough that it can still survive with a week a week less promotion than Nemesis because Nemesis is new. A lot of people don't know about Nemesis.
Courtney, keep in mind, Courtney Kemp doesn't have as much popularity as 50 Cent does. So although her name is attached to it, people only know her because of fitness to be honest.
So more promotion need to be put into Nemesis than it than it needs to be into Raising K.
like >> this picture with Rock and Stefano.
>> I haven't seen that, but hey, if someone can find it and want to share it with me, cool. I think Lou gonna get dropped quickly this season.
It could mean that. Gotta be honest. It could mean that. I'm not going to be happy about it.
This seeing seeing Panessa free is is telling us something something happened.
>> Could it be?
>> I gotta say, could it be >> like uh Barilla let her go or uh pretty sure he's he's he's dead this season.
>> Damn. Y'all just gave me an idea what could be happening, bro. And I hope this ain't it. I know I'm sure Demarcus would be happy to hear this [ __ ] but it could be that Billa ends up, like you said, letting letting her go, but also he puts Lou in the position that he ends up getting taken out cuz keep in mind uh Panessa did have a gun on her.
I don't know if they took it from her or not, but she did have a gun on her. Now, we know Panessa is not a killer at all, but you got to remember when you What you laughing at, >> Vanessa? She always got a gun and she >> I I get that. That's why that's why I get ready to explain. So, but you got to remember this. She's not a killer by nature. However, you push a mother bear in the corner, they'll fight.
Remember that because her son is on the line. That could be her motivation to go ahead and shoot.
And I think every mother that hears this would agree. Tia, you in there. Ali's not in here right now, but if we have any other mothers, and come on fellas, we know how our moms are when it comes to protecting their children that they'll do some things that you wouldn't dream of them they would do in order to protect their children. So, she could do that. Like, say let's because keep in mind here's the here's the factor as well.
Keep this in mind. Berilla has a daughter.
So he has a child. He knows what it's like. He might end up thinking about putting himself in this in them shoes.
Be like, damn.
You know, I wouldn't want nobody to do that with me, you know, with my child there. And he could end up getting a soft heart enough to let Vanessa go.
That could happen like that.
Or it could be Lou doesn't end up dying, but she he he be brother helps her escape. that could happen, but be really probably will be linked to how she escaped.
Or it could simply be um after they find out what happened to Rock, Lou decides to let her go.
Perhaps Rock tells him to let her go.
Who knows?
Okay. So, uh let me let me catch up more comments. Stars and CW totally different channels for two hour shows. Okay. I know you I know you having the wire but his final season was 2008. They cut that short as well for the same reason. So yeah, it makes sense. Stars and Netflix is two totally different networks too.
Yeah. Um I told y'all B season season was eight episodes and Raising Can Final season was eight episodes too. Y'all just heard at it.
What's up team boss that running the OG power started with eight episodes and ready canon final season ended with eight episodes diamond was bigger than JP's death.
Um, I think the scene was big bigger, but it wasn't bigger to the story. I mean, Diamond Death doesn't even happen in JP's death.
Now, JP's death was a great scene.
It was a great scene because he knew he was going to die.
>> Yeah, he knew. Absolutely. That's why he made >> the one the one I felt the most really was was Marshall.
>> Marshall.
It was all right. I guess it didn't touch me like that.
>> I mean, it was cool. I I knew he was going to get his ass popped. So, uh, but Diamond, you know, I guess what what to me pushes it a little over it more than JP's is the fact that he died in front of his brother. and you know um Jar's um reaction to it once he's keep in mind he gave that nice little monologue right before he died he he gives us the reveal to us the story of how Jar got in the game what's the reason he put him in the game he asking him for forgiveness and stuff like that he gives him the reason why he allowed Tommy to do certain things that the old diamond wouldn't let him do. So, you know, I think all of that being part of the buildup is what helped it, too.
What was uh was the was it >> a lot of >> was it worse for um Jard or worse for Tommy?
Now Jard and Diamond in a shootout.
Somebody gonna get shot. But Tommy had to hear it over the phone.
Yeah, but I think hearing it over the phone, it's not as bad as you actually seeing it, them dying you in your arms.
>> But that's even that's that's even more powerless. I would think you just really feel like >> Yeah, it makes you powerless to it.
Yeah, but you're still powerless the fact that you are there. Think about this. You there and you can't do nothing about it.
I understand you over the phone pretty much the same thing, but you seeing them take their last breath in front of you, that's worse than you imagining it. I believe I'm gonna get your little glass out of here. I'm tired of this.
Vanessa and Jerome might leave Unique and move somewhere else. All right. A good possibility of that.
Yeah, Juke tried to call Rock, but you know, she she was she was on already on the phone with somebody. I would suspect the reason why she didn't answer.
Uh, and I'm not sure, Ronaldo, maybe you can answer this. In the 90s, did they have a call waiting during that time?
>> I don't know.
>> They didn't. Um, in the 90s. Oh, let me see. Call waiting.
>> Yeah. Like, you know, if you on the line already, did they have any kind of indicator to let you know somebody else is trying to call you >> in the 90s?
That's probably where it started.
That's probably where it started because I remember before we even had like the the the voicemail thing >> that probably just started in the 90s cuz I I I moved to Houston in 83 and when none of that going on.
So I So it could be that she didn't and then that's the reason why, you know, she wasn't able to get through. She was already on the phone with whoever it was she was on the phone with.
>> What kind of phone did she have? Did she was she on a landline or a sale?
>> Oh, shoot. I want to say she was on a sale.
Could have been a coreless phone.
>> Now that could have been possible in 92.
Not I'm not not sale I don't think.
>> We don't we don't really know who Rock was talking to.
>> Yeah, we don't.
But she was talking about unique and and Lou he was she was telling somebody that Lou did something with to unique, right?
>> Yeah.
So yeah, um a lot of different aspects could be doing going going on with that, you know, with um finding out um with this trailer, but it's probably gonna end up being the one Demarcus gave us that they trying to give it time. Um, give Nemesis its promotion before raising Kaden Collins >> and the the only connection between the two is is Courtney Kemp.
>> Yeah, but Courtney Kemp is big enough to that matter. Like I said, she's executive producer. She could do she could make that call. But hey, um, >> so she on stars telling them, "Don't don't interfere with my new show on Netflix."
>> She could, but stars executives, you know, it all depends on what what kind of I guess um power she has over that. I mean, it could not be that. It could not be that.
and she is the creator. So, she still has creative control over the show because her name is still on it. All of that stuff branched away from even though she's not the writer top writer for it anymore.
>> So, all these years that that she been gone that this what this what she been working on Nemesis.
>> Yep. I like it.
>> And speaking of Nemesis, let's go ahead and head to that. Um, I asked earlier, I don't know if y'all answered. I'm gonna ask one more time. Who has seen the full um the the full first season of Nemesis?
Because um if we if everybody hasn't majority hasn't seen it, I might not go ahead and say what happens at the end to to spoil it for people.
>> Don't spoil the end. But I I got one question, so spoil this for me. Um, does do we see more of of uh Manny, what was his name? The cop that got killed, Manny Shaw or something?
>> Not really.
>> The reason I asked cuz the actor who who playing that part was uh Tristan M.
Wilds. You know who he is?
You might want to look him up. I always felt like he should have been somewhere in power. He could have played somewhere in power. He was a kid. He was one of the kids on the wire.
>> Um, but he's well he's well known.
He could have had a bigger part.
>> So, but yeah, he's uh they're going to they they show a little small image of like a little small scene when he was bleeding out >> basically after he got shot and um you know >> I um Isaiah trying to help him.
But like other than that, I don't think they go any any further than than that showing it.
>> A lot of power in the wire actors on Nemesis. Yeah, the Y actors.
Yeah, they um they were showing up all throughout Power, too.
>> Yeah.
Well, I don't know about the wiring, the power. um you know aspect of it. But for sure Nemesis had a lot of power at this.
>> Now the the family therapist I did see her uh in episode one. She was in Snowfall.
>> Yes. S >> and she was in the wire too. She was D'Angelo Boxdale's mama in the wire.
>> Is there an echo in the house? Um I don't hear echo.
But yeah, so with Nemesis, so I know a lot of people was thinking it's probably going to be like the power of Netflix, right?
and uh almost it kind of it's some similarities like I hear um Demarcus you're saying that it's not they're not two alike. It it's definitely a lot of similarities.
>> Now is it the same? No.
>> No.
>> You got a lot of similarities.
Um, Cold Train's character has some similarities to Ghost character and um, it's it's sad that y'all haven't seen it yet. I had a question that I wanted to ask y'all, but the fact that Ronald, you haven't made it past episode one.
>> I'm I'm one and a half in. I'm not I'm not through with you.
>> You ain't gonna know the answer to this.
And Tia said she was dozing off through it.
It's a very It's a good line that's funny as hell to me that I wanted to ask y'all, but y'all not going to know.
Demarcus will know.
Oh, hold on. SG, did you finish it?
Brinkley and Emanuel Shaw should have switched roles.
Um, [ __ ] Who is who? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I know who that is. That's the Oh, I guess I guess cuz y'all saying he's a better actor and stuff like that.
I I don't know.
So, you got to watch it again. Damn.
See? So, ain't nobody gonna know the answer to my question.
>> It seemed like it it's it's uh just my impression from the first episode and a half. I was thinking how they gonna get seasons out of this.
>> They can get some seasons out of it.
>> Okay. It's it because the you know I'm I'm just I caught the the that the I can't think of their names now that the wife knows the other wife.
>> Uhhuh.
>> But they don't. But the two husbands who are really each other's nemesis doesn't know the two wives know each other.
>> Well, actually they do. They do know.
Well, they g Well, they haven't found out where I'm where I'm at yet.
>> Um, actually, >> I mean, Cold Train knows who this who this guy is, but the but the the the the detective guy doesn't know who Cold Train is, right?
>> Yes, he do.
>> He know he knew in episode one.
>> Yep.
cuz he did look like he was talking to and through the through the camera and everybody saying >> trust me that [ __ ] definitely know who he is and once you watch the show more you gonna know that >> I know it I can see I can see the setup where it's going but in episode one I don't think the cop what's his name >> Isaiah >> Isaiah >> I don't think he knows who's who he's actually looking for in episode one.
He's looking for a a pattern and he thinks he it's the same people.
And see where I am, he's just they they tracking down Dion with his gang affiliation and his stupidity.
>> That's where I am. That's where I'm at.
>> I love Dion though.
I knew I knew I knew he was going to be a problem from the first time he was he was on there.
>> Better protect I did that cuz >> But didn't didn't the woman I don't know her name. Didn't she order a hit on him in episode two?
>> Yep.
>> Okay.
>> She's She's big to the story line, too.
I like her.
>> Oh. Oh, yeah.
But yeah, so you said cold trying is not similar to Ghost because Ghost didn't eliminate cops or women. Ain't got nothing to do with what I'm saying.
Just because Ghost didn't eliminate cops don't mean they don't have similarities, [ __ ] That's fact.
you you gonna point out one aspect that they have different and say they they're not similar.
You that's like um saying that saying oh apples don't have you can eat the apples peelings but you don't eat the oranges peelings so they don't have no similarities. [ __ ] they both fruits.
They they zebler. [ __ ] out of here.
But uh they have similarities because both of them on top of it, the biggest thing that they're similar about is both of them have um try to, you know, do even though they're criminals, they live in uh plain sight. They they act like they're upstanding businessmen. That's one major thing they haven't gotten.
Now, are they different on a lot of lot of scales? Absolutely.
Cold Train deeply loves his wife and Ghost loved Tasha, but you know, it wasn't the same not the same level like the way Cold Train is. It look like you can't really even at least according to the first season you don't see it don't seem like Cold Train would cheat on on um Ebony now. Um okay, I've seen episode one. I'm on two. What? I'm I'm in I'm about halfway through episode two now. Did Ebony her name >> did Ebony what? Evan, that's her name.
Tra's wife. She lost a baby or something.
>> Yes. So, she had a miscarriage.
>> Okay.
>> Is um later on throughout the show, they're going to show you exactly what happened. I'm not going to spoil that for people.
>> Is that Is that Zer? Zer. Is that the baby child's name? Did they name it?
>> I think they did have a name, but I'm not sure what the name of it was. It may have been that.
Yeah, y'all missing out. It's crazy all of y'all saying I have to rewatch again.
I'm I'm ashamed. I'm I'm really ashamed >> cuz it's actually really >> This a Saturday night and see this a good night for me to join join a live. I come back to Nemesis next Saturday and I I really watched it all.
>> Yeah, I'll come back. I'll circle back.
But yeah, um it's actually really good.
I I would recommend a lot of people to watch it.
>> Yeah, I was I was liking it.
>> But yeah, another Let's see. Talk about more in my opinion. See, it's sad because the only one who's seen it all is me and Demarcus. So, we're the only ones that can debate this. But in my opinion, Cold Train, I mean, Ghost is smarter than Cold Train because like for one thing, like what you just pointed out, Demarcus, Cold Train is willing to fire against law enforcement. Ghost won't do that.
And I it is crazy though, you know, towards the how how how the way this the um direction of the show of how it's moving, you know, how many seasons are they going to get out of this? Because with it being Nemesis and you know who the nemesis are because Cold Train, here's a good thing about it. Cold Train is one of those um you know it's kind of hard to really identify who's the protagonist and the antagonist with this show.
>> I got I got I was thinking the same as I was watching it. Who who's whose side am I on?
>> Yeah. Because neither one of them >> you really kind of want both of them to win.
>> You want both of them to win. Exactly.
Like I actually like both characters.
Like both of them gritty. They got, you know, they both got some they both wiggly as hell to a degree.
They be antagonizing each other. You know, they be uh like that's one of the questions I was going to ask. What's the funniest what is like the funniest line one of the funniest line of the show?
Now we know what the coldest scene was to me like the flexing of power because we I remember Ali me you I think I think support was up in there I think grandma may have been in there but anyways um when um the Armenian dude flexed on him what's his name Andre showing you the power that he had when he was like oh yes and I'm never alone that [ __ ] was Oh, >> okay. Yeah. So, he was there, too.
>> I'm not And one thing I'm doing, I'm not watching it making any comparisons to Power.
>> Yeah. I'm I didn't watch it like that either. I wasn't looking for a dissimilarity. I just want was generally checking out the show. But just watching it, you I couldn't help but to notice some things that were similar.
Like like I said, both of them upstanding businessmen while being criminals. That's something that Ghost and Cold Train shares.
But on the flip side, you know, Isaiah, he's the one that, excuse me, he's the one that has the son.
and his son. Everybody was saying, you know, this [ __ ] is a a little Tariq.
But it was nice to see that some of the stuff that you may have thought could possibly happen didn't happen.
Like I said, I don't want to give too much away because a lot of people saying they haven't seen it yet.
>> Is Is the daddy going to be more significant?
He's going to definitely play a bigger role in it.
We saw all the episodes in Discord. We seen most of the first day. Most of it the first day it aired and then Ali and I saw the last two. It was fast. That's why we got to watch it again.
Well, yeah. But see the way everyone is talking it makes me think okay you know they might not be able to follow exactly everything I've as so let me let me ask this then see to see did y'all catch this what was the coolest line I at least to me that stood out it was funny it was funny as hell to me between um Isaiah and Cold Train when they was talking to each other because to me this this line just stood out. I watched this with little girl and we both that that particular line stood out to us. like, "Okay, yeah, that [ __ ] was funny." Then Ghost doesn't listen to Lobos like Cold Train listen to Charlie.
Yeah.
Yeah. Cold Train and Ghost is definitely different.
>> Charlie is Charlie is the woman, right?
>> Yes.
which is really his sister-in-law, >> right?
>> Okay.
Cuz if that would have been Ghost and she would have tried to take him out like she tried to do Cold Train, uh, Ghost would have Ghost would have been popped that ass nobody out of here.
Ain't no understanding. What the only thing we understanding is this is your last day on earth.
And you know, it's so crazy because there's so much I want to talk about with it, but y'all not knowing So yeah, but it's a funny it's a funny line that they that that happens. I'mma say this at somebody's grave site when Isaiah and and Cold Train are talking. I'll say that.
I want to say the line so bad. Well, I can say the line actually. It won't really reveal nothing.
Okay. Cuz it's just funny. Oh. Oh, you didn't know yet?
He with the dead.
That [ __ ] was so damn funny.
>> No, that doesn't spoil anything. I don't >> Yeah, it ain't gonna spoil nothing for you because you don't know what I'm talking about. But when you get there, >> hey Demarcus, did you DeMarus, did you laugh at that damn scene too, bro? Cuz that [ __ ] like when I tell you that [ __ ] was hilarious to us. That [ __ ] was funny as hell.
Okay. So, SG know what I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh yeah, Richard, that's exactly what I'm talking about. He was the dead Elvis.
Hey, don't don't say don't say nothing else that can reveal the spoil it for everybody else. But you you know what scene I'm talking about.
It would be interesting. Cold train father Tim Tailman eliminate Josiah or Nightmare eliminate Tailman or if Charlie Father eliminate Josiah in a robbery.
You know Demarcus something like that might be the case. Absolutely.
Because this is my opinion like we get the name of his nemesis. Correct. So I I believe towards the ending of this show, there's going to become a time where although they're brute, they're total enemies.
Right now, we're going to see Jo um we're gonna see Col Train and Isaiah on the same side.
Because cold train is although he is a um you know a ruthless killer he's not a coldblooded low down killer. He killed with necessity.
So it's not he's not just a serial killer to just kill people just because he's not a cananan.
He's more like a ghost than a cananan.
Yeah, that's why he said he they had to kill them two people when they was getting them diamonds.
They had to do it. But uh do they do they do they set up another season? Is there a cliffhanger or something?
>> Yeah, it's a definitely a cliffhanger at the end.
>> Okay.
>> And for me, it was it's pretty damn exciting to finally watch.
Obviously, we got snowfall, but see, snowfall with their locations throughout the entirety of their shows, a lot of theirs is kind of further out.
Well, not really. Not really. But, you know, it's not modern day. So, a lot of the stuff that you see, it doesn't look like what's here. Like, a lot of stuff, if I wasn't on the set, I wouldn't recognize it.
Like I know where it's at because I had to I drove to it to know where it's at.
But like Nemesis, a lot of the locations that they were at, I was like, "Oh, okay. I know exactly where it is at." Like some of the heists, like the one that you're the scene that you're talking about, that there is probably five minutes from me where I where I'm at right now, where I live.
talking about the jewelry stores.
>> Yes.
And the big shootout that they had in Century Park, I knew exactly what that was. I was like, "Oh, okay. Shit."
Is that Is that when they got the money and threw the diamonds on them or is another shootout coming? No, it's another major shootout.
>> Okay.
>> And that was that was a smart move there. At least so far from what I've seen, that looks like that was pretty smart.
Nah, I ain't gonna spoil it, Dear. But you Hey, I I do agree with you. He does have some Alonzo Harrison for sure.
But yeah, I say like both of them are very likable characters. You know, they kill with necessity.
Um, they're not too nice consider, you know, for me, I don't like the protagonist that's always trying to do justice and stuff like that. [ __ ] that justice.
We try to and I I also like the the other exchange between um between Cold Train and Isaiah when you know basically Isaiah was trying to flex on Cold Train a little bit. Matter of fact, it was that same it's in the same scene of the the the line I was just talking about with he with the dead. Pretty much Cold Train was telling him like, "Nigga, we ain't that much different.
The only difference is you working for somebody instead for a certain pay for a certain pay and I'm choosing my own life of how I want to do [ __ ] and I'm getting paid greatly for it. Now I'm par paraphrasing but that's pretty much what he was telling him.
Could I see Isaiah becoming dirty fullon corrupt?
No, I don't think so.
Do I Will he do some dirty work? Yes.
But he's the type that he he's willing to get dirty to get justice. He's kind of like he's like a a Lonzo Harris um character like Demarcus said mixed with Cooper Sachs like you know Cooper Sachs would was overzealous and would go the escort mile to get justice for something somebody he knew was a criminal but he couldn't prove it.
So he was like f that. the law, you know, the justice system isn't working for me. I gotta do some [ __ ] to go ahead and make sure justice is done.
Yeah, I I know Sax was dirty. That's what I was saying.
That's what I was just saying. He's dirty, but he was only dirty because he knew the person he was after was a criminal, but he couldn't prove it. So, he had to get dirty to try to to try to catch the guy. And I think Isaiah is similar when it comes to that. Now, Cooper Sachs isn't a killer.
Alonzo Harris is a killer. Isaiah Stylus is a killer. So, that's why I said he's Alonzo Harris mixed with Cooper Sachs.
Like Cooper Sachs is never going to frame somebody that's, you know, actually innocent and and a good civilian. He's only going to do that to a person he knows is a criminal.
But anyways though, I I gota I got something coming up that I got so I got to move on. But yeah, we definitely gonna come back to Nemesis people.
Y'all go ahead and get caught up so we can have the full conversation.
But we're gonna move on to the rise of the Rock Street Killers, people.
So the Rock Street killers, we know that's something that's that was um in season one and two of the original Power, right?
>> Why you spell it with her name?
>> Because That threw me off >> because um I wasn't the first to come up with this. I think the first to come up with this was uh Get it Howard how I live. If anybody else knows anything different, let me know in the comments.
>> But there actually was a rock RK Street Killers.
>> Yeah. So >> the RSK's, >> right? the RA skates.
>> Okay.
>> So, what getting how I live came up with is that could it be a possibility that the Rock Street killers got his name from you um the crew that Kanan is going to create. Kanan and Breeze together come to create to take down Rock's organization because keep in mind Rock is the one on top right now. We know according to the synopsis of Raising Kanan that their empire is going to fall. So could it be that the Rock Street Killers is the organization that took Rock down?
No.
>> You say no.
Why you say no?
>> Because it What? I mean, we don't know nothing about them for one thing. Uh where were they where were they mentioned in in in OG Power?
>> Yes.
>> Not in Raising Kan.
>> No, they have not been mentioned in Raising Kan yet.
And keep in mind, >> so it in in OG Power, see, you watched that more than than I have. Um, it was mentioned by Roller's brother or something.
>> Um, yeah, Jacuda.
>> It has something to do with Roller's brother. And then when did the Jamaican dude early in power was a Jamaican dude that was played by the same guy that that played Marlo on the wire? Who was that?
>> Um, >> didn't he mention the RSK's?
>> Yes, he did. You're talking about um [ __ ] >> Who was talking to him?
>> Drifty. Drifty.
But he but see this is the thing with them.
Um let's go ahead. Um yeah he talking about drifting the the car. Let's go go with what we know already of um what we know about um RSK. So far we know that that that they're a gang. They wear green.
Roller was the head of them, but we also know that Ghost and Tommy was the head of it before then. And before them, Kanan was the head of it.
We know that from season two cuz right before Kanan took out Q Dubs, he told them that, you know, whatever Ghost and um you know, whatever Ghost and Tommy gave to your brother, um I gave to them.
And he said, "The [ __ ] is alone. They'll make us collect.
So that lets us know there Kanan was the one who was over and we we haven't heard of the RSK's as of now according to raising Kanan. Right.
>> So they have to be created anywhere between now and I would say before Tariq and um Tariq and the rain is born which is 2002.
So they got to get created within that 10y year radius.
So with that being said, Rock Street Killers, right? Raquel's name so happened to be Rock.
We know that their empire is going to fall.
I'm just saying.
So it could be that Breeze and and Kanan comes up with that organization. They take down Rock and that's the that's the game, you know, the name of it.
It also makes sense, you know, that Kanan and I mean that Ghost and Tommy so happened to be, you know, a part of it.
So if they do, they end up taking them.
And the this the part that sucks the most is that cuz here let me let me put this out there. I believe that if I'm right about rock is going to be alive according to what the way things is looking.
Oh [ __ ] God damn.
It sucks man. This she don't set this damn thing for 9:45.
And so I gotta rush through this in order to make sure I still make it on time. I'm I'm I'm going like Isaiah right now from Nemesis.
Let me see how far this [ __ ] is from me.
Damn, man. She g [ __ ] lady already all the way all the time and [ __ ] Why can't I be late?
Hold on. It's going to take me to get over there 20 minutes. [ __ ] Anyways though, like I said, um with with the RSK's, it could um it could be um a situation where if Rock is still around, she has her side and then Kanan and Breeze and them end up having their side because you know Flossy I'm starting to think Flossy and that Pino Bernardi do they might turn out to be Kanes and them new club That might be what it is cuz they need somebody they might need somebody to um to be their supplier especially if Unique end up you know not being on being available anymore with um because we we I think it's fair to say that what's dude name the unique had the um you know the Italian dude what the [ __ ] his name I forgot right Russo.
>> Yeah, Russo.
Uh, >> but see, I'm I'm still thinking about what about her feast.
>> So, >> I thought that was gonna make Rock the the main >> the main plug in Queens was her connection to Hi.
>> Yeah. Yeah, I believe so as well. which is why they're going to be there going to be a major war to gain control.
Um, and who knows um that he probably not the only supplier. Perhaps somebody else might get something to come in. We don't know who the who the uh Flossy and Pino Bad them people where they're getting their [ __ ] from.
>> Now, does Hi circle does that circle back to Traymont?
it. That's what So yeah, since Traymont actually knows. God damn. Hold on.
But yeah, so what what I was saying is I think Russo is going to be out very quickly cuz um uh Stefano is going to take him out. But we also know that Pino Bernardi is a nemesis that rivals uh Stfano. So I think he is going to play a part in the end of Stfano.
Stfano is probably going to end up teaming up with Rob. So that mean therefore Kanan and Breeze is probably going to have to team up with with um Bernati and it's going to be a major war takes place I believe and then probably towards that back end that's when Kanan is going to figure out that he was wrong about all that [ __ ] you know that um he's been manipulated and then Kanan and Breeze takes out um snaps and pop flashback. I mean then then we get a time jump. You see you see Breeze there. This is just me predicting of what what's going to go on in the and pretty much we already on rock survives because but I I want to give because I kind of got to rush through this now unfortunately because I got it ready somewhere to be. But um with the Survivor Rock, the thing is another thing that always stood out to me that I think other people didn't pay attention to is the name of the final episode of um Raising Kanan. Well, the final, you know, final episode of season 4. The name of the episode title was give me the weight, right?
Nothing that happened in that episode that we visually seen fulfilled that title, right?
>> It was I I took it to mean to mean to refer to Rock because she was always the one that had to take everything on and even and even Lou and Marvin acknowledged that, you know, when Lou was talking to Kan.
>> Actually, I never thought about it from that way. you. That's a good point, Ronald. [ __ ] I don't know how the [ __ ] I missed that, but yeah, that probably is what it is.
She Yep. It all It always fall on her.
Damn. And it's unfortunate because throughout this whole series, she has to take the weight of everything. Yeah, that is >> even to the point of killing her mama.
>> Yeah. Damn. Yep. Taking out her mama, you know, taking out Scribe.
>> Even though that was a mistake, she had to She's the one that had to take on the pain of that mistake that she made.
And then when everything goes wrong, they want to point at her, Rock, you did this, you didn't do this right. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And when everything going right, they still won't give her the credit.
>> Yeah. She had to take on Damn, that's per that's that actually makes that that episode even better for me now because I never thought about it from that standpoint. Yeah, the weight of everything was always on.
[ __ ] What if rock survive and had prominent um what's this say? This some mental >> mental damage.
>> Yeah. See on my side, I don't know if this is there for you, but it's something right here that be blocking some of the words and I don't know how to move it. That's the reason why I be struggling to see what certain words are.
They be blocking it off.
I'm looking at I'm looking at the Streamyard comments, >> but then sometimes I some of them don't show up over there and I have to go back to the the YouTube. That's weird. I I don't know why certain ones don't don't show up for you.
But yeah, so that's a good, like I said, that's a good way of of seeing it. But also, another thing that I was pointing out is the fact that perhaps perhaps that they also could be saying that, you know, Kanan could be trying to pressure her to give him control of of the weight that she did have. That's what I thought about originally. But what you said, >> but that's not that episode. It's not about Kanan uh getting control, but I do think that the the titles are are significant. I'm glad you wanted to connect that.
>> Yeah, >> the the OG Kana's narrations is significant.
Um that really be kind of telling the story.
The music is always been been uh telling part of the story.
The music selections.
Yep. That's another deep indicator that tells you what's going on. Um >> Oh, and I heard you I heard you use nemesis in the sentence.
>> Well, where were you going with that?
>> No, I did. when you was talking a while back and you said something about somebody's nemesis.
>> Oh, I was talking about um Pino U P the Pino Bernardi dude is um Stfano's nemesis.
>> Yeah.
>> So I believe that >> we got we got a new word now. That's my point.
>> I mean nemesis is like a word that's been out there.
>> I know it. But you don't you don't just hear people using it.
>> True. That's true. That is, you know, I mean, I use it from time to time when when we're comparing to two like a villain and a hero. That's typically where where you'll hear me use it.
In this particular situation, they both villains, but uh yeah. So it it says that in the breakdown for uh Pino Bernardi that you know he's the he's a nemesis of Stefano that's rival that that basically they they strength is kind of equal like they're both very powerful because you know throughout Kanan far as what we saw Stfano has been the top dog as far as the Italian families in New York but basically they're letting us Oh, Pino equals him.
So, like I said, I would suspect that Kanan and Breeze is going to attach themselves to him and like probably that scene where, you know, we seen Flossy pull pulling the gun on Kanan.
Um, I believe that probably is going to be Kan's introduction to her.
She's um she's probably going to end up pulling the gun on her. He's going to let her know that he's there to have a meeting with her and then that, you know, they're going to end up sitting it out talking. She's probably going to grow a liking to him and she might end up introducing him to Pino perhaps.
And like I said, I think they're going to form an alliance.
>> So, yeah.
>> Do you think we'll see Shirley again?
>> Surely.
If something happens to Lou, then yes.
>> That's what I was thinking. To she was the only one on the show called Lewis.
So Raim is gone in the win as a connect now. It seem like >> that might be the grade that Marvin is looking at.
>> What you mean >> Lewis?
You know in that picture they y'all say Marvin looking at somebody's grave.
>> Yeah. Yeah. T this is D and I like I got I probably got like 10 more minutes top. Uh what people not and I I don't have a whole lot of time.
I don't have time really to go through it now. Maybe I'll do another one perhaps Monday, another live Monday and talk a little deeper on this maybe.
But we got up in this in the teaser there's an image with the the only image actually that we see of Lou. He's inside of Rock's house.
You can tell that um it's night time and it seemed like it's probably very shortly after the aftermath of whatever happened between Kanan and Rock and we also seen another image of Kanan being in that in her house. So I believe that they must have been in the house at the same time.
So that's something to look out for.
What took what happened between that change between that? Because if he truly shot Rock and Lou walks up and sees this, what do you think would happen?
>> One of the content creators thought that Lou is the one that might have whooped Kanan.
>> Right. Right. And I think it's the same content creator that thought Lou might take the fall for shooting rock.
>> Yeah. Getting out of there.
So um >> I want Marvin to kick Kanan's ass.
>> I remember you saying it. I was just about to mention it.
So, I mean, it kind of makes sense that it be Marvin because Marvin is the tough uncle.
>> He been wanting to >> and he's been the one talking about whooping his ass for the past two seasons.
So, it would make sense that it'd be Marvin.
But um it you know what what stands out to me cuz um some people may I think I've seen a couple people say that Kanan might take out Lou and I don't know because one thing I do know is that Kanan loves his uncles. So it make me think he made them do it. He didn't have nothing to do with the death of them. He could because um we also got to remember that what took place in the original Power if it happened before season five it could be changed because we know when Kanan first but here's the reason what makes me think it it didn't change this part if you pay attention to Kanan's clothing in the original power he dressed like his uncles So that lets you know that he had a Greek deep love for them. When he first when get introdu well when he first comes out of prison, he's wearing the same outfit of what you would see Marvin wear in in the very first episode of Raising Kanan and also the last episode of season 3.
He's wearing a very similar outfit.
And then also if you pay attention to when he first pull up on Ghost, he's wearing he's dressing just like how Lou dress.
>> We ain't saying Immani no more, [ __ ] Ain't no reason. And I always really believe that the character Lou wasn't much older than Kan, >> but you know, but when they hire these actors and they be old playing young folks, >> like clearly Patina Miller is not a 33 year old, >> right?
What time is it now? [ __ ] Well, as much as I would love to stay in chat a little longer, I gota get ready to get up out of here. So, if anyone got any final remarks and questions, we'll do that and then I got to get out of here.
So Rock is alive and Ghost is dead.
>> No, >> Flossy is a new character that's coming.
Um, the the white lady that I think they said she's she's a she's Italian, correct? She's part of the Italian mob. I believe >> she's a madam or something, right? M if she's alive, I think 100% she's in she's in uh if she's alive and we don't see her die in um in the final season of Raising Kanan, I think 100% she's in legacy.
And that would make sense of why they had her originally a part of the Ghost cast the final season.
So yeah, cuz what I think originally could have possibly been what was going to happen is she was going to be the cliffhanger for season 4 and season five was probably going to be the final season.
That's what I believe they was originally going to do.
But since they had to end it in four, they had to change it.
>> I want to see the furnace.
I want to see Dwiz's brother. I want to see the diamonds and pearls.
Keep in mind the ghost dad situation. I gotta see how that works. So you know that's how you know for sure they they have to be doing flashbacks and origins because there's no way you can tell Ghost story without saying what happened to his father. And we know that happens before 2002.
So folks got to keep that in mind.
That's that's another indicator letting you know 100% they're going to be doing flashbacks.
>> Oh, she's Jewish. Gotcha.
>> Okay.
>> Demarcus, I think you're right. I think he's like 10 years older than Kanan as well. That's the mark, I think. Have Have y'all had a seen or heard a birthday?
>> No, they haven't given anything like that for like I like I just said when I did my video basically indicating everybody's ages.
I just went with educated guesses of the people that they didn't give direct uh you know age range for.
The Rock held him in her arms the day he was born.
>> She said she held him in his arms, but you can hold somebody in your arms when you're four years old.
>> But who would put who would do that?
Well, maybe he wasn't born.
>> Plenty of people that do it.
>> Maybe he wasn't born in a hospital.
>> He can be Well, I don't I don't think she said the day he's born anyway. I think.
>> Yes, she did. She said the day he was born.
That's one of my favorite scenes in the whole series is when they were talking to that therapist.
>> I remember her saying holding him. I don't know about the day he was born. I got to say that you I'm not saying you're not right.
>> I'm right.
>> I don't remember that.
>> But you ain't got time to look it up. So >> yeah, I actually I'mma make time for that.
That's going to be the last thing I do.
But I'mma look at that [ __ ] right now.
That's That's season 3 episode 10.
All right. You're right. I just uh you have I mean if you want me to put put it so you can see it, I can. But yeah, she just said it. She said the date was born.
So either but yeah, like I said, four year olds that four years old or older, I would say you're definitely able to hold a newborn in your arms, but she could be like seven years older than them, which would make her even older, you know, to be able to do Because like I I think what Demarcus said is about accurate close to if not you know um right on point. I would say Lou is anywhere between 10 to 13 years older than Kan.
Kanan was born in 75.
>> Uhhuh. So y'all was saying Lou would have been born in about 65. Hospitals were very different than they are now.
I think Lou was born anywhere between 65 from 60 61 to 65 is where I would say his range is.
>> Not even 61.
>> Because you wanted to be Ghost's dad.
That's why you make >> No, it really doesn't have anything to do with that right now. It's just looking at Rock's age and knowing what Kanan's age is. Her saying she held him in his arms means she has to be a certain amount of years older than him.
>> Yeah, he's everybody's baby brother.
So yeah, I I would >> she referred to him as son a few times.
>> Yeah, but I like I keep telling you, they in New York, everybody refers to everybody's son.
Okay, I'm I'm bad at No, I actually know a couple of situations where the uncle is younger than the nephew. I know a couple situations like that.
I ain't got one last show. I'm into until the until the the power universe end. I'mma ride that [ __ ] till the wheels fall off. If he don't show up in legacy, I told you it's gonna be a new spin out show up. Power heaven.
Ghost gonna show up in that [ __ ] I don't think most people even care at this point.
>> Yeah, they don't. But it's all good.
That's what they want. See, that's the catch.
>> It's been It's been too many years.
>> Yeah. The Tommy movie. Yep. The Tommy movie could happen. Yep. It could happen there.
And why why my [ __ ] Ghost got to be in power here? Like he can give his life to the Lord at the end.
Anyways though, yeah, I gotta go ahead and get up out here. But oh [ __ ] I got nothing. God damn. Yeah, I definitely gotta get out of here. But um we gonna definitely we gonna um we gonna hold up here. We gonna um do another one. If not Monday, for sure Tuesday. We gonna pick up on a lot of this. But until then, I'mma uh I'mma have to catch y'all a little later.
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