Helicopter Hog Hunting and Heather Looks Different

Añadido: 2026-05-13

[00:00:00]Uh, something's wrong with Heather. I think she's looking rough.

[00:00:07]>> I'm post transition now.

[00:00:09]>> Heather sounds rough.

[00:00:11]>> Yeah, Heather's been smoking >> for about 25 years. The reds.

[00:00:16]>> Your hair looks nice at least.

[00:00:18]>> Yeah.

[00:00:18]>> Thank you.

[00:00:19]>> Yeah. Very lush.

[00:00:20]>> I use the same soap that I use on my ass.

[00:00:22]>> Hell yeah.

[00:00:22]>> You ass hair probably looks awesome, too.

[00:00:25]>> Yeah. No, it's it's No, it's fluffy.

[00:00:27]>> Oh, yeah. Uh, obviously Heather's uh doing stuff in the woods with Laura this week, so >> collecting she's going to have more stuff behind her when she's back next time.

[00:00:38]>> She needs more uh I think she's addicted to bone >> at this point.

[00:00:43]>> We can't even sit down at a restaurant.

[00:00:45]We were having a meal at the bottom of the hill there and she spotted >> Oh, I spotted that.

[00:00:51]>> You spotted it? Yeah. I was like, "Hey, I think I see some a skull over there."

[00:00:55]She >> didn't hesitate. jump to the fence at the restaurant to go.

[00:00:58]>> No, no, the skull is going to be there when we're done eating.

[00:01:00]>> Yeah. Yeah. Let me go get that right now. Let me go touch bones right now before my food gets >> before I have these appetizers. These hand appetizers.

[00:01:07]>> Let me just go get this bone and bring it back to a public food environment.

[00:01:12]>> Yeah.

[00:01:12]>> And they had something like ritzy going on that night, too. There was like a bunch of moms doing like bingo and wine and [ __ ] like that. Like >> every I think everything at that place down there is Ritzy. We're the ones that bring >> bring it down a bit.

[00:01:25]>> Yeah. The one time we all went down there and I was actually with you.

[00:01:29]>> Uh it didn't seem ritzy on the inside, but then like you go outside and people are hopping into their Range Rovers and Lamborghini Uruses and it's like, "Oh, I remember where we are."

[00:01:39]>> It's a wine bar.

[00:01:40]>> You know what says everything about us though is that the staff there love us.

[00:01:44]>> Yeah.

[00:01:44]>> So, we may not be the the kind of average clientele there, but the people that matter, the people working love us.

[00:01:52]>> Yeah. Yeah. It's fun. Uh you were showing us uh your hair tie there.

[00:02:00]>> Yeah. So this is a gray hair tie uh that I think I've been using it appro every day three to for the last 3 to 6 months.

[00:02:09]It's accumulate. I don't know how well the camera can pick this up.

[00:02:12]>> Oh, it can pick it up. So >> yeah. So I got little >> your hand behind it so we get some contrast.

[00:02:16]>> You put your hand behind it.

[00:02:17]>> I've got whole little knots of my hair uh that have accumulated on this thing.

[00:02:23]Um, I could honestly probably whip this at someone and knock them out at this point. There's so much.

[00:02:28]>> When you pulled that out, I like just stared at it for a while and I thought like maybe you had just made a hair tie out of your own hair cuz that's what it looks like. Looks like you just took a bunch of your own hair and like and weaved it together.

[00:02:40]>> The actual tie itself is just the base at this point. It is my hair.

[00:02:45]>> Yeah. That's wild.

[00:02:46]>> I I didn't realize having long hair would make me shed so much.

[00:02:50]>> Sure. Yeah.

[00:02:52]Yeah.

[00:02:53]>> Uh, I got to I got to be on top of it in that shower of mine to make sure I'm I'm clearing everything out.

[00:02:58]>> That one took you how long to make?

[00:03:00]>> Oh, this is I don't know 3 or 6 months old.

[00:03:03]>> You should switching them out and sell them.

[00:03:05]>> Yeah, like that's a hell of a cat toy.

[00:03:07]Yeah.

[00:03:07]>> Do you think someone would want this?

[00:03:08]Yeah, >> absolutely. Somebody would buy that. A hair tie made of Jack hair.

[00:03:12]>> Do you want to create something? I I'll give it away. Let's create a contest that a a Time for Pie listener how they can get their hands on my hair tie. Do we do we have any Heather Honker pads left over?

[00:03:23]>> No, she sold out of those. I I even had to give her the extra ones I made cuz she had so many orders.

[00:03:28]>> Oh, that would have been a good combo.

[00:03:30]>> Heather's >> or a mystery box. You either get Jack's hair or a honker pad.

[00:03:34]>> Or honker pad. Well, uh yeah. What would we even make them do? Win.

[00:03:42]>> So, if you actually want it, which is weird, but we're not judging.

[00:03:46]>> Already weird.

[00:03:46]>> Just leave a comment saying why.

[00:03:48]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Give us your best reason why you want this hair tomato.

[00:03:51]Jack's hair.

[00:03:52]>> Can I choose?

[00:03:52]>> Yeah. And then Jack will choose the hair. Yeah. Jack will choose who he thinks deserves it. And then uh we'll give him a name.

[00:03:59]>> We will UPS Jack's case.

[00:04:03]>> Yeah. We'll overnight it.

[00:04:05]>> So the out of the time for my budget, not my budget.

[00:04:07]>> Domestic only. We're not >> We're not international overnight.

[00:04:10]>> I'm not international.

[00:04:11]>> What if some guy in Hong Kong wants this?

[00:04:13]>> Well, then he's going to have to wait for Saver.

[00:04:15]>> Yeah, he would probably try to clone you. I don't think people in Hong Kong would be interested in my hair.

[00:04:19]Definitely somebody from like, you know, like Slovenia or something like that.

[00:04:23]>> They You don't want the the issue is you don't want somebody getting a hold of it and making a voodoo doll out of you.

[00:04:28]>> Oh, we're not sending these to Haiti.

[00:04:31]>> Yeah. No, I was going to ask what what country is stereotypical for just being weird.

[00:04:35]>> Haiti.

[00:04:36]>> Haiti for sure. Voodoo. That's a good one to not uh where are like some swamps where like uh voodoo happens? Florida. Nobody from Nobody from Southern Louisiana.

[00:04:47]>> Okay, that's it. Yeah, southern Louisiana.

[00:04:49]>> The North's okay.

[00:04:50]>> The voodoo.

[00:04:51]>> Not the Catholic Louisianans. Uh, but the Baptist ones are okay.

[00:04:54]>> Okay. Yeah. So, >> hey, history guy, now that you said Louisiana, do you know why their counties are called parishes?

[00:05:01]>> I don't. I would imagine it comes from an Arca Arcadian French reason. I don't know though.

[00:05:09]>> Just like the words they used or is it like a religious reason? I >> I I think it's just it's a French. So, can I Oh, you want a little history lesson?

[00:05:16]>> Sure. That's why you're here.

[00:05:18]>> So, the the the the French Cinjun people of uh southern Louisiana, they came via Canada. Uh the Acadians were uh they were an ethnic group in Canada who got ran out of Canada and then they basically just uh took a boat south and landed in Louisiana and then populated that area. But so they come from Canadian origins, French Canadian origins.

[00:05:44]>> Were they making gumbo before they came down or were like once they got down there like, you know what, crawfish and gumbo?

[00:05:50]>> That's a good I would deduce that it's uniquely Louisiana.

[00:05:54]>> Yeah. Okay.

[00:05:55]>> But I mean, but French people are known uh culturally to >> to use anything.

[00:06:02]>> Okay.

[00:06:02]>> And then they came to North America and they're like, "Oh, now we even have more crazy [ __ ] to work with."

[00:06:08]>> I mean, they eat frogs. I mean, I feel like they came with the spices but then added >> the creatures.

[00:06:13]>> The creatures once they were available in Louisiana.

[00:06:15]>> Yeah, once they were in Louisiana, they're like, "Wow, there's all sorts of crazy [ __ ] we can put into our stomachs."

[00:06:19]>> Yeah.

[00:06:20]>> You've had land bugs. We're giant swamp bugs.

[00:06:23]>> I will say I never had Louisiana food until I was in my early 30s. Holy [ __ ] That is the America's best kept secret.

[00:06:32]>> We Yeah, we ate a bunch when we were on that alligator hunting trip. That was a lot of fun. Those people know how to freaking >> There's a lot of food.

[00:06:38]>> Fun food.

[00:06:40]>> Um >> I just got back from a little hunting trip.

[00:06:44]>> Yeah. How did that go?

[00:06:45]>> Uh it was pretty sick.

[00:06:47]>> The world has less of a population.

[00:06:49]>> Yeah. Uh there with Firearms Direct Club and a handful of other guys. We had uh uh Ronnie was there. Uh Nolan and Tacket and uh Cord is his name, but his page is called Cord is Loud. He dresses as like a British soldier.

[00:07:09]>> Is he British?

[00:07:10]>> No, they're from like Alabama or something.

[00:07:13]>> Close enough.

[00:07:13]>> Yeah. But uh >> Birmingham, it's a big city in Britain and in Alabama.

[00:07:16]>> Yeah. He's got a lot of fun content where he does like British [ __ ] and uh like destroys cars and and does a lot of gun stuff. So, they were a lot of fun.

[00:07:24]But one of the main reasons we were there, it's like it's for a veteran nonprofit. You know, they had like a lot of guys that you know, like a guy missing legs and and things like that.

[00:07:31]But it was for the veteran nonprofit and firearms direct club was who like sponsored it. But we were like turkey hunting. I didn't get any turkey. Uh sadly we sat in blinds like three different times and just [ __ ] uh the only shot I got at one [ __ ] vanished after I shot it. So who knows if it lived or not. But uh I got to got a rattlesnake, got a jack rabbit, and then we got to do a helicopter hog hunt.

[00:07:57]>> Have you ever done that before?

[00:07:58]>> No. That was the first time I've got to finally do that. Like there's been so many times where we were supposed to do it and then something would happen. One of the most recent times, like a month or two ago, we were supposed to do it and the company I was going with hit me up with the airport was like, "Hey, so uh one of the helicopters just crashed yesterday while that's not something you want to hear while they were hunting. Uh nobody got hurt or anything, but >> we don't think we're going to do that there now." I was like, "Okay, yeah, that's probably that's probably for the best." Uh but yeah, finally got to do it. This girl was the pilot. She was freaking badass, man. She could fly the hell out of a helicopter. It was awesome.

[00:08:32]>> Yeah.

[00:08:33]>> Um but >> because of weight limits, it had to like usually it was like teams of two that went and we had like a little docket that we were, you know, tracking points like how many hogs they got.

[00:08:42]>> I was like fifth on the [ __ ] list. I was like, man, I was like, they're going to clear this place out. I was like, I'm not even going to uh have anything left to kill. So, she took me up and 30 minutes passed and we don't see [ __ ] We finally see like one hog here that I blasted, another hog blasted that. Then finally a coyote pops up and we're like in hot pursuit of this thing. It's like full speed and you know we're chasing it like to the side of it and it was it was so sick dude. I'm like like kind of shooting some at it trying to see like where like the bullets are going how fast I need to like aim above. But uh so fun. Smoked that one. And then on the way back like after we rode around for another 20 minutes, didn't see anything else. We're like all right well we'll head back. Uh on the way back I see something like in these bushes below and I was like uh something maybe a pig went into these bushes and she whipped around kind of hovered around on the bushes trying to get it to come out. The main gi coyote I've ever seen.

[00:09:36]>> Oh I overheard you talking about that.

[00:09:37]>> Yeah. Like that's what >> I'm This is I'm doing this as a favor for you buddy. You need to go.

[00:09:44]>> She like when we saw she goes oh god kill it. Like and she's like this is what people confuse a chupacabra with.

[00:09:51]She's like, "This is what I like suspect that's what they thought a chupacabra was."

[00:09:55]>> That's just mercy hunting with that.

[00:09:56]>> Dude, it was so gross looking. Like no hair at all. Like just like cruddy, like black and gray thick skin all over. Just gross looking. And uh chased it and I shot like once I finally hit it, it [ __ ] blew it whole jaw off. So it's like freaking out. And then I think cuz I had went through one mag and then I put the other one in. I think those were like when I got to the hollow points cuz when I finally hit it, it just like exploded. Like everything was hanging out and it was like still running and its back legs were like getting caught on like its guts and like ripping its own guts out. So I was just like, "Oh."

[00:10:28]And he >> you got to put him out.

[00:10:30]>> She was like, "Oh god." And he like finally like he was like just rolling around the ground freaking out. So she like got real low and I was just like and then just like oh god >> this was not as enjoyable as I thought.

[00:10:41]>> Oh this this got messy. Yeah. Uh but uh we'll see what it looks like when I get because there was a a 360 GoPro on the end of the gun.

[00:10:50]>> So >> I thought you were saying let's see what it looks like when the mountain gets here. Like you're not getting that one back.

[00:10:54]>> Mountain this mangy grass [ __ ] looks like a monster.

[00:10:58]>> I call this guy rabies.

[00:10:59]>> Yeah.

[00:11:00]>> Just looks like an after picture of like the coyote and road runner.

[00:11:03]>> Yes. After a bomb went off in his hands.

[00:11:05]>> Did you Did you hunt as much in West Virginia as you do here?

[00:11:09]>> Hell no. Like I grew up like we hunted fairly regularly growing up. like we'd go deer hunting and I went turkey hunting a handful of times. Did a lot of squirrel hunting growing up. That was fun and just like easy. You just walk in the woods and [ __ ] a million squirrels. But uh like I just wasn't like super interested in it when I was little cuz it just like it was boring to me. Like I I hated [ __ ] sitting in a treeand or sitting in a blind. Like I liked the walking around hunting. Uh so that's like why I liked doing squirrel hunting and stuff like that more. But we just have so many cooler things that we can hunt down here that's like so much more fun. It's way more enjoyable.

[00:11:45]>> Dude, I'll tell you what. I So, I didn't grow up hunting. I grew up fishing, but I didn't I didn't hunt. It just wasn't taught to me. And then there was a probably a time in my 20s, 30s like, "Oh, I like to go deer hunting." It just never happened. At this point, I have like no desire to shoot a deer >> or any other mammal for that matter. But those pigs, >> I those things are so disgusting. I I will I'll be like Anakin Skywalker. I'll be like, "And I shot the young children."

[00:12:12]>> I will I will slaughter those things and not lose an ounce of uh sleep about it.

[00:12:19]>> I I have no desire to go hunting. And not that I'm against it, like go eat your meat, go have your fun, but I want to go on helicopter murder trips.

[00:12:27]>> Yes.

[00:12:27]>> Yes.

[00:12:28]>> Because those things are just they are useless as a species. And I was so jealous cuz like every like pretty much every other group other than two, they they sent me the like the uh marker board today of like the groups that went today and one group got like a handful of coyotes and then like also 20 pigs.

[00:12:45]So they they beat my score. Oh, you know, back to that. Everybody else had like way more. Uh Nolan and Tacket had like 29 pigs. Like they went into like they found a bunch of big groups and like a bunch of [ __ ] babies and they were like smoking everything. So I was like, "Fuck, that's going to be hard to beat, especially me by myself." Uh but the pilot was like, "Uh, in my opinion, coyotes are worth 50 pigs easy." And I was like, "Oh." I was like, "Hey." I was like, "She said it, not me." So like we >> suck it man versus morning.

[00:13:09]>> So we recorded it and her saying it and stuff and so like on my points thing, uh, I had like 102 points and like the closest to me was like 29 pigs. Uh, so I was like, "Hey, looks like I won day one, but like they sent me the docket today and so they got like somebody got four or five coyotes and then like they had like 250 points and I was like, "Oh." I was like, "Damn." Okay. But uh yeah, man. It was so fun. That was like one of the It just It's cool as [ __ ] in a helicopter. You're like halfway hanging out of it with like the seat belt around you just 10 full mags up here in front of it that you can just like once you're done and you know it's got the bag on it so it catches all the shells and you're just kind of hanging out and chasing [ __ ] and like they're once you start chasing them they just are running in like a straight line. And so you just got to like figure out like you shoot a couple see where your bullets going and then figure it out from there. And just watching them full speed and then they [ __ ] tumble and roll after you. Did it was it was cool as [ __ ] I wish like I want to do it more now and find like big groups of them cuz I know that would be fun as [ __ ] It >> to me it sounds like >> if you play Call of Duty as a kid and you join the army >> because you want to do that in real life, you are instantly disappointed.

[00:14:19]>> Yeah. But if you get on a helicopter hunting pig, like this is better than I could have imagined. I did. It was so cool. And like the gun had like two different optics on it. Like you had like a scope and then just like a red dot mounted on top. And that red dot was like perfect because she gets you close to that [ __ ] dude. You're like 40 yards away. And it was just so cool. And she was [ __ ] wicked at driving cuz like we would be chasing that first coyote and he'd go into like some bushes or some [ __ ] like a little group of trees and she'd like whip around it and hover there for a second and then I would like just shoot a couple into the bushes until he ran out again and then she would whip around and catch up to him and be beside him again. Like it was just [ __ ] coolest [ __ ] Like that was one of the coolest experience I've ever had for sure.

[00:15:04]>> I I got to say too, as far as pilots go, I've met all sorts of pilots on all sorts of different aircraft. commercial airline pilots. A I just did I'm working on a story about A-10s right now, so I've interviewed a lot of A-10 pilots.

[00:15:16]>> Yeah.

[00:15:16]>> I think there's something really cool as someone who doesn't know [ __ ] about aviation. Yeah.

[00:15:21]>> I think there's something really cool about being a helicopter pilot, like a little bird pilot, >> especially if you learned on a a bird that doesn't have like the modern auto controls like auto hover.

[00:15:33]>> Yeah.

[00:15:34]>> Like there's no doing other things in a helicopter if it's all manual control.

[00:15:38]>> Yeah. you're doing and it was it was so cool cuz she just said like you know and I don't know [ __ ] about driving a helicopter. I know a lot of it's maneuver with those two pedals at your feet like your you know your what your tilt and your yaw or like whatever the >> I think the pedals is rotate left and right like on an axis.

[00:15:55]>> Yeah.

[00:15:56]>> Uh your collective is essentially your gas pedal so high or lower >> and then you got your jiggle stick that is all the other directions.

[00:16:02]>> Yeah. Yeah. She had that stick there and cuz she like when I first got in she was like just be mindful of this one stick here in the middle that's between her.

[00:16:09]So she's like don't bump that. She's like you'll kill us if you bump that. I was like okay >> that's so cool. It comes with a death lever.

[00:16:16]>> Yeah. I was like okay. So I was like a little nervous cuz I'm like I'm big in this front seat next to her. So I'm like already that's why I'm like mostly trying to like be kind of out the door so that I'm not close to cooler if you're out the door.

[00:16:28]>> Yeah. And like so I'm like hanging out and I'm like it was kind of chilly that day. But uh dude, it was so [ __ ] sick. And yeah, she was [ __ ] wicked at driving. So that was a blast. Like I uh strongly consider being like cuz they were going up again today. I strongly been like, "Hey, can we like film this the day after cuz like I want to go back on that helicopter." But I just like I need I had other stuff I need to do today, too. So I was like I was like I don't want to do that. But uh dude, it was so sick and I'm so glad I finally got to do it. And uh yeah, we got to film. They had that uh the Hilux out there, that tactical with the [ __ ] >> Oh, the tactical.

[00:17:05]>> Yeah, the technical. Yeah. And they're uh they're giving it away uh through Firearms Direct Club. I don't know what you got to do to be a part of it, but they're giving that whole truck away.

[00:17:14]And the truck is engine swap with an LS engine. Uh so it [ __ ] >> That's awesome, but also sacrilegious.

[00:17:20]>> Oh yeah. It's kind of sick, though. Like it sounds mean as [ __ ] And it's got some [ __ ] giddy up. The only thing that sucked, and I get it cuz they're giving it away, that 50s like semi-auto, >> but uh dude, I had to like stretch my thumbs out to like [ __ ] make that thing shoot and then Yeah, it was like it was really hard to fire.

[00:17:40]>> Have you shot a regular 50 before?

[00:17:41]>> It was easy. Like you just push those [ __ ] pales down. Like they I think there needs to be some adjustment there cuz I was like having to like really like reach to make it [ __ ] fire. So, it was really hard to get it in a pattern where just recoil wouldn't make you shoot again. I got it like a couple times and would get like five or six rounds off and it was good. But, you know, for legal reasons, they got to give away.

[00:18:00]>> I'm wondering if the like that just sounds like a modified trigger pull for those butterflies.

[00:18:06]>> Yeah.

[00:18:06]>> If if that's actually like a legal regulation or >> if that's just how that one shook out >> maybe. So, yeah, maybe that's just how it it ended up. But it still either way it was [ __ ] cool as [ __ ] Everybody was fun. They like cooked for us uh all day every day. That was great. It was just Yeah, it was a [ __ ] really good time. They they've got like 9,000 acres there. Shitload of different stands and stuff. So, yeah, we'll we'll definitely be going back there to do some hunts over the the coming year cuz he's like, "Dude, he's you got to come back for deer season. You got to come back for like fall turkey." Cuz he's like, "We can [ __ ] smoke those 400 yards away with a rifle." Then he's like, "We don't got to be on shotgun." He's like, "So, your likelihood of finding one you want is like way higher." And I was like, "Oh, yes. I'm I'm down." So, yeah, it was just great. It was a [ __ ] killer time. Uh, super pumped they had us out.

[00:18:56]Shout out to them.

[00:18:57]>> Uh, Firearms Direct Club and Honor.

[00:19:01]>> And shout out to Jesus.

[00:19:02]>> Honor Tribe Outdoors.

[00:19:04]>> Thank you to Jesus and his dad for creating all these beautiful animals to slaughter.

[00:19:08]>> To slaughter. Yeah, it was cool. Yeah, it was it was a lot of fun. So, back to that technical and they're giving it away. I'm sure there's like legal things you got to finish before they actually >> you. Yeah.

[00:19:19]>> But what if you win this thing and you live in like an apartment?

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[00:20:11]Give it a try. You just park that [ __ ] out.

[00:20:14]>> Park that.

[00:20:14]>> Yeah. Then you're the coolest guy at Bay Ridge Apartments in freaking uh Akan, Ohio.

[00:20:21]>> Yeah. And what's the legal legalities of just riding around with that gun in the back of your bed all the time? Like, >> so I think like in Texas it's legal.

[00:20:30]>> Yeah.

[00:20:30]>> But people are still going to make phone calls.

[00:20:32]>> Yeah. There's you're still probably going to have some runins. You're going to get pulled over and if you get a cool cop, they're going to be like, "Look, man, I know it's legal, but if you could just do me a solid and >> take it down so Karen and Nancy, stop blowing my [ __ ] up."

[00:20:47]>> But if you get an uncle cop, they're going to uh illegally seize it and then you can sue the police department and make at least $200,000 >> and then you can violating your civil rights >> and then you can get out of the tiny apartment you're in, get a cool house.

[00:21:02]>> Oh, so it's win-win. You can buy a house in freaking Florida.

[00:21:05]>> Yeah, maybe just keep driving around with the gun in the tailgate or the bank >> and find a cop to sue >> and kill a cop [ __ ] up.

[00:21:12]>> So, speaking of uh people in trucks that are rich all of a sudden, have you seen the footage with >> I forget what airline it was, but they were landing I believe in New Jersey and they came in way too low to where like the landing gear >> clipped a light pole in the United flight. They clipped a light pole in the top of a cargo truck. Jesus.

[00:21:32]>> And there's video of because like the guy was driving the cargo truck for his job. So they got like the inc the inc cab cam dude. Immediately when I saw that I thought of Chappelle's show where the guy like bought the truck full of cigarettes and he's like I'm rich [ __ ] Dude, he's getting that airline money fast. It's on video.

[00:21:50]>> Did he get hurt or anything or >> I'm think like minor like he's he's not living in the hospital but >> you you got hit by a plane while driving your truck on the freeway. You sir have won the lottery. uh those uh when remember when that Delta flight uh tipped over when it was landing in Toronto on the ice and it flipped over.

[00:22:09]Everybody was okay. Thankfully, Delta Airlines was like, "Listen, we're giving everybody on the flight $35,000 each, no questions asked. Also, >> you can still sue us if you want."

[00:22:20]>> Yeah.

[00:22:22]>> You know what they should have done is everybody they have on film hopping out of that thing with their baggage. Minus 10 grand. Minus 10 grand. Minus 10 grand.

[00:22:29]>> Pete. Big pet peeve of mine. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:22:31]>> Yes. When I when if if you if you're at the point where you have to emergency exit a [ __ ] plane, every second matters. If I see someone going down that freaking uh >> trying to upside down, especially trying to get your luggage out of a >> If I see someone walking off with their luggage, I'm grabbing that [ __ ] out of their hand and throwing it back at the flames on the plane. [ __ ] you risking my life cuz you cuz you couldn't go without freaking >> my shirt. Yeah.

[00:22:58]>> My my special shirt I got at the airport.

[00:23:02]>> God damn.

[00:23:03]>> Yeah.

[00:23:04]>> Yeah, dude. That's like And the thing is humans are we are >> selfish.

[00:23:09]>> We are cattle.

[00:23:10]>> Yeah.

[00:23:11]>> We are dumb as [ __ ] in those kind of situations. So people aren't even thinking. They just >> they they're afraid of losing their thing, >> which isn't that important.

[00:23:20]>> Sure. Yeah.

[00:23:21]>> Like I Hey, if what if you know the plane's going down, grab your passport.

[00:23:26]You don't want that to burn up. What else is important that you carry with you?

[00:23:29]>> Yeah. If you're carrying your mom's ashes with you, make sure you walk off the plane with that.

[00:23:33]>> You don't Yeah. Like you don't need to make out with your shirts and your work computer.

[00:23:38]>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Speaking of shirts, I've got one of my new ones on right now that's out. My milk chugger shirt.

[00:23:44]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:23:45]>> Yeah. Just a little a little plug.

[00:23:47]>> Yeah. Plug >> uh on my website's link in my bio. And it just I think it's like my merch link.

[00:23:54]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. or or milk, you know, whatever.

[00:23:57]>> It's boy milk.

[00:23:58]>> It's milk. Um, but yeah, bunch of new shirts just came out. So, if you are feeling like you need some new drip, >> how much extra do they have to pay to have the cool cut that you >> Oh, I do that, dude. That's That's all me. Uh, there's tank tops of them, too, though. So, if you can get like a regular tank top, but I like this kind of tank top better.

[00:24:16]>> Hey, I'm looking at these purple microphones, and I'm going to put you on the spot here. Uh, I bought over a year ago I bought you a shirt from the Minneapolis airport on my way back here.

[00:24:26]>> Yeah, it's hanging up.

[00:24:27]>> It is >> in my closet. Yeah.

[00:24:29]>> Okay. I've never seen you wear it.

[00:24:30]>> No. Yeah. I hardly ever like a lot of times when you buy me stuff, especially when it's cool. And you said it was from the like the actual store.

[00:24:36]>> Yeah. I was like I was like, I'm going to hang this one up.

[00:24:39]>> Okay. I I bought Caleb a a Prince shirt, the the cover from his uh Purple Rain album, >> and I bought it at the Prince store.

[00:24:46]>> Yeah. when you told me that I was I don't want to like [ __ ] this one up then.

[00:24:49]>> If you're ever connecting in Minneapolis, make sure you go to the Prince store. It's cool as [ __ ] >> Is it in the airport?

[00:24:54]>> It's in the airport. So cool.

[00:24:56]>> Yeah, that's cool.

[00:24:57]>> Yeah.

[00:24:57]>> Yeah. Okay, cool. Uh yeah, something I noticed. I don't know if it's because my microphone is like in the sunlight in my room. Mine's starting to like turn pink.

[00:25:06]>> Oh, it's definitely just UV damage.

[00:25:08]>> Yeah. Okay. I was I was like I was like, man, like maybe I'm doing too many pouches and breathing on it and it's just like dying it with like uh nicotine breath. No, that wouldn't be it. Cuz even like people that smoke in their house, like the walls turn color because of the smoke itself.

[00:25:21]>> Yeah. Yeah. The only thing I think of was the Sim was just slowly dying it.

[00:25:26]>> Maybe one of y'all can answer for this cuz I asked her and she didn't give me an answer. Heather will sit in that couch and I go out for my cigarettes, you know, every And so I'll walk past and for three days straight, I saw her sitting on that couch and she had the same thing pulled up on her computer for three days straight. She was looking at microphones and it's like, "How long does it take you to look at microphones on the internet?"

[00:25:48]>> I I'll have to help her do it. She's looking She's She's looking for microphone stands for her microphone cuz like when we film the online podcast, her audio is kind of [ __ ] cuz it's it's a far away from her. So, it's picking up a lot of the feedback and like sounds of just like computers and [ __ ] So, we've been like telling her and she just like she don't deal with this kind of stuff.

[00:26:08]Well, >> yeah. So, >> so I just got to I need to find it and just get it for her.

[00:26:13]>> If you're shopping for a microphone and you don't even know what the the stats are referring to, >> Yeah.

[00:26:19]>> it's really difficult to make any sort of educated choice.

[00:26:23]>> Yeah.

[00:26:23]>> Uh I'm three days straight of her agonizing over microphones. Uh >> where if she had just used the [ __ ] telephone that she always texts us on and said, >> "Hey boys, >> what one do I need?

[00:26:35]>> What microphone should I push by next to?"

[00:26:37]>> We could send a link. I will say with Heather too, when I text her and I don't hear from her for like an hour, I'm like, I know how much you're on your phone. You've ignored this text of mine.

[00:26:45]>> She just she doesn't look at texts at all 90% of the time. That's why if I have anything that I need, like if cuz usually I only text her if it's like, hey, I need something that I need an answer back to in this moment. Hey, where is this thing? Hey, do you need this thing?

[00:27:04]Like blah blah blah. Hey, we're ready for the podcast. I usually just call her. Or if I'm here, I just go find her cuz I know I'm not going to hear back for hours and hours and then she'll be like, "Oh, yeah, she's doing [ __ ] word puzzles and [ __ ] on her phone 24/7."

[00:27:16]>> Yeah, cuz she's on her phone a lot.

[00:27:19]>> She has all her like notifications off.

[00:27:22]>> Oh, that makes sense. Okay.

[00:27:24]>> Yeah, she is permanently on silent.

[00:27:26]>> Yeah, she's got it all per perma silenced.

[00:27:29]>> I I never need anything from her that's urgent. Yeah. So, she's definitely in that class of people of me where I send them a message.

[00:27:36]>> Yeah.

[00:27:37]>> With the expectation of a reply in three to four business days. If it comes earlier, hot damn, this is great.

[00:27:42]>> Yeah.

[00:27:43]>> But it's a fire and forget. Sometimes the pigeon gets lost.

[00:27:46]>> Uh-huh. Yeah. She'll uh sometimes she'll that's what gets on my nerves is she'll ask me something >> and it's urgent >> and it's an urgent thing and like or we're discussing something and I'll answer her, you know, promptly and there's no response at all and then she'll ask me the same thing again later on some other texting platform or in my face and I'm like I I answered you immediately.

[00:28:10]You can look at it.

[00:28:12]>> We still got a half hour to go. You just want to [ __ ] on Heather the whole time?

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[00:30:49]>> The episode's just titled [ __ ] Heather.

[00:30:53]>> Can we title this stupid [ __ ] Yeah, stupid [ __ ] is gone. Uh, no. She sent me a picture. She already found like a moose paddle up there. So, she >> Yeah. What is a paddle? I don't know.

[00:31:03]>> It's just like the moose's antlers are different. They grow like really fat and like like paddle like. So, yeah. So, they're called paddles.

[00:31:11]>> Uh, but yeah, she found like a a young one. So, she was really pumped about that, which is cool.

[00:31:15]>> A paddle file.

[00:31:16]>> Yeah. And then uh Laura was like, she's like, "Yeah, I've never even found one up here like that." So, that's a find.

[00:31:22]>> Wow.

[00:31:22]>> Yeah. So, that was cool.

[00:31:23]>> She's lying. I bet Laura planted.

[00:31:25]>> She's like, "Yeah, that's crazy. I never found it." She like went and bought one and put it in the woods there. Yeah.

[00:31:28]She's like, "It's so pristine." It's already got lacquer on it and everything. That's crazy.

[00:31:32]>> $9.99. Why would it say that? That's crazy.

[00:31:34]>> I I was up in uh South Dakota with Laura. Uh I think that was like the first time I met her >> and her knowledge of the land is absolutely bonkers. If I had to assemble a fourman I need to survive the end of the world team, she is a firstround draft pick. Yeah. Uh, one of the coolest conversations I had with her, it was probably the same time I met her, too.

[00:31:57]It was at one of the shot shows and she was there. She was hanging out with her group a lot and we were just kind of like asking her random stuff and I was like, "What's been like your favorite thing that you found like while out surviving that you had to eat? Like what was your favorite meal?" And she was like, "Oh, deer milk."

[00:32:11]>> And I was like, "What?" She's like, "Yeah, like I had found like a a deer that had died recently and it still had its full bag of milk, >> you know, inside." And I was like, "What? What?" She's like, "Yeah." And I just like, she's like, "When I found that and I drank that, it was like the [ __ ] lifeblood." It was awesome. I was like, "Damn." I was like, "That's cool as [ __ ] [ __ ] deer milk from a dead deer that you found." Like, you're trying to survive in the woods. You're [ __ ] She was probably naked and afraid.

[00:32:36]You're [ __ ] naked, >> dirty as [ __ ] hungry as [ __ ] And you find just a big bag of milk.

[00:32:42]>> Like fresh.

[00:32:43]>> Yeah. Freshade, nonpasteurized, just as as good as it could get. Milk. We talked to uh we've I'm sure you've talked to Justin Govern a lot about that show. My first question was how much >> are you actually protected and and how much you know >> is is you're really living like that. He said no we're living like that. I mean they they make us take like malaria pills so we don't die out there >> but like we're on our own. Those producers leave and they go stay in nice little huts >> and we are on our own.

[00:33:15]>> Yeah. Uh, I think the worst part of that would be the bug bites cuz every time I see it and like uh the episodes and they're just [ __ ] ate up with bug bites and ants and mosquitoes and [ __ ] I think that would be what drives me >> to wanting to leave the soonest.

[00:33:32]>> That so I think that's just a product of the environment which would absolutely suck.

[00:33:36]>> Yeah.

[00:33:36]>> But I actually like I heard Laura talking about it on a different podcast I was helping with.

[00:33:41]>> Uh hunting is so much [ __ ] harder.

[00:33:44]>> Oh, sure. Because you have a weapon.

[00:33:46]>> Yeah.

[00:33:46]>> Not No, it's not that. It's you have a non-hunter cameraman near you [ __ ] up >> everything about your hunt.

[00:33:54]>> Oh, I didn't even think about that.

[00:33:55]Yeah. You're having to drag them around the whole time. So, it's like >> So, like even if you're like professional sneaky sneaky, you got [ __ ] Jeff crunching on a power bar with a huge ass camera like >> Jeff from Lincoln, Nebraska.

[00:34:07]>> And that and she mentioned that like you still have to do like these confessionals where you go and like they interview you once a day.

[00:34:12]>> Yeah. Uh, except they don't come to you.

[00:34:15]They got the little confessional hut set up like a quarter mile that way. I'm sorry you didn't get any calories today, but we need you to walk over there.

[00:34:21]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:34:22]>> Oh [ __ ] >> So, it's actually the production crew is the worst part of this.

[00:34:25]>> Yeah, they're making it way harder on you. That's funny. Uh, no. Yeah, I think cuz like bugs already annoy the piss out of me and [ __ ] like that. Like even just when we were on these hunts uh in those blinds, like I was like one of the days we were we were in one of the blinds for like 6 hours and I was going like crazy cuz the [ __ ] gnats were so bad. Uh so I like I literally pulled my shirt up like and had like my arms like I rolled them up and I pulled my shirt up over my ears and like on the back of my head and put my hat on like like this and like had my shirt like this cuz like they were so bad for like my ears and [ __ ] And when I'm like trying to like look and scope and I'm like looking around and like one's flying into my eye and they're like in my [ __ ] ear the whole time. It was driving me crazy. I hate that [ __ ] >> You know where I got to take you since you're Mr. Outdoors and you love some beautiful scenery and a a real camping experience.

[00:35:19]>> Um it is one of the best kept secrets in the United States. One of the most beautiful chunks of land uh imaginable.

[00:35:27]It's called uh Lake of the Woods.

[00:35:29]>> I've heard of it. It's a northern. It's on the Minnesota Canada border.

[00:35:35]>> It is some of the the most beautiful >> land and water to traverse in the entire world. You got to do I would love >> I haven't done Lake of the Woods since I was a kid.

[00:35:46]>> I would love to go up there and do that.

[00:35:48]Like uh we could do like a a house.

[00:35:50]Yeah.

[00:35:50]>> We could leave this place abandoned for a few days.

[00:35:53]>> We'll fly to Minneapolis. It's like a probably a four or five hour drive to get up there from Minneapolis and we could make like, you know, four or five days out of it.

[00:36:02]>> I'm down.

[00:36:02]>> It's rad. Canoeing, all that stuff.

[00:36:04]>> Yeah, man. I' I've got an itch to go and and travel again. It's like I've been cuz I got that deal with Rough Country and there will be like sending me the tent and stuff for my truck.

[00:36:13]>> Oh, sick. Uh, so like once that comes in and I'm set and like I have taken care of I'm going to try and catch up on work and like a couple weeks in advance, I'm just going to [ __ ] go drive and be gone for a couple weeks cuz that's something we used to do once a year. We would just drive the whole country and I've talked about it multiple times, but like I've got like a [ __ ] itch to go again, dude. Like and just take these random roads and and see all this crazy [ __ ] >> This I want So I want to evolve Jacked History. I have a YouTube show. It's called Jacked History. I'm a I'm not a historian. I'm an entertainer who loves history. I talk about history and try to make some jokes.

[00:36:47]>> Oh, >> uh, Jack History on YouTube.

[00:36:49]>> I I want to expand the show outside of just doing the normal uh, you know, camera on me with this on the set thing.

[00:36:56]>> I I want to I want to do a road trip episode where whatever the theme is, but we're I want to do a road trip episode.

[00:37:05]We're we're driving somewhere in the country. Obviously, we're there's a historical aspect to it, so we're talking history. Yeah. But some of the funniest conversations you could possibly have happen while you're just [ __ ] around in the car.

[00:37:16]>> Yeah.

[00:37:17]>> Would would you want to do something like that with me?

[00:37:20]>> Yeah, that would be fun.

[00:37:21]>> We find a place we're going to drive to.

[00:37:24]We record ourselves driving.

[00:37:25]>> Yeah.

[00:37:26]>> And then we go to the place and have an experience there.

[00:37:30]>> Like I think that would be a fun episode to do.

[00:37:32]>> Yeah. cuz and then you just and that was what was so cool about those trips cuz we you find you plan your route but you find so much stuff like along the way that you're just oh [ __ ] I didn't know this was here along this road and then you [ __ ] see that too and like >> Route 66.

[00:37:48]>> Yeah, dude. We cut into Route 66 so many times and there was there was one like it was like a two-day period on one of our trips where we were going through Utah and Arizona and we were like out at Arches. We went up into Bryce Canyon.

[00:38:03]There was horseshoe bend. There was the petrified forest. There was that giant meteor hole there, the crater that you could go see. Uh it was like the the painted desert. It was like so many things. It was just some like volcano field where it had exploded. Like it's just like the the lava fields that was just a little park that you went into and it's just like for miles. It's just [ __ ] lava that has like, you know, become rock now. Uh, we saw so much random [ __ ] on that trip and we were, "Oh, [ __ ] I didn't realize this was here, too." So, we would like hit all these little places up and that's I think that's why we took a whole other extra day because we kept see stopping and seeing so many places. But, yeah, dude. We went through after we left Joshua Tree one trip. We were coming back and we're like, well, let's take this back road that goes through Route 66 and go that way around. It was like 2 hours longer, but it took us through a little like old gold mining town called Sit Greavves Pass >> in California there.

[00:38:57]>> Uh, yeah. I think it was like it was like from California up into wherever.

[00:39:02]Um, but dude, yeah, it was like old gold mining town you went into. All these donkeys are just running around free.

[00:39:08]They're just like descendants of the old gold mining donkeys. They're just walking around free. They'll like come up to your car, stick their head in, and like lick you and you can pet them and [ __ ] Just looks like an old west town in the middle of the mountains in [ __ ] nowhere. Route 66. It was so cool. But yeah, we we came up on a little when we left Washington, we came through some cowboy town in the middle of the [ __ ] nowhere in the mountains that had like uh fur traders and like stuff like that. Like dudes like still like kill animals and sell the furs and they make hats out of the fur like there and stuff. It was just cool as [ __ ] seeing all these random little places.

[00:39:42]And then you also find so many cool places to eat that are like, you know, it's not on anything. There's no [ __ ] Yelp that you can find for this. We ate at some, it was called like Native American cheeseburger or something like that when we were out in Valley of the Gods and Monument Valley and all that stuff. And there was like a random food like diner right next to the the highway like right in front of this big bridge. And we got some kind of cheeseburger on some Native American bread. It was like big poofy bread almost like croissantes. It was a croissant and sourdough mixed together, but it was like the best cheeseburger I've ever had. And that bread was so good. I forget the exact name of it, but >> dude, I would imagine uh that like a lot of the Mexican cuisine we the Mexican like tortilla and I would imagine that's not a Spanish thing. That's from like indigenous people >> probably. Yeah.

[00:40:40]>> Yeah. that's from like the uh you know the southwestern tribes and like the Apache and [ __ ] like that.

[00:40:47]>> Dude, it was so cool. It was Yeah. Every time we go we end up and you in those random places you find little thrift stores and we went into one that was like like apparently like a big deal there. It was like just giant thrift store. We walked through it for a while and it was just like dude if we weren't on like a trip that was already like the car full of [ __ ] your whole car would be literally full of >> Coca-Cola signs. Literally [ __ ] left out of the old gas because and you pass so many of those old ass gas stations that have been there for a hundred years that are closed down and and but I got a uh like a purple >> uh camel joe hat that was like one of the like OG like in the8s camel hat and I was like yeah I was like this doesn't even fit. I was like but I want this. I was like this is so cool. I've always wanted to do like a a sketch about uh Joe the Camel >> uh like almost like a VH1 uh what was that?

[00:41:35]>> Behind the camel.

[00:41:36]>> Behind the behind Yeah. Behind the music thing. But it's like him showing like how he peaked in the 70s and 80s and everyone thought he was the coolest, >> but it's just now him like knowing how irrelevant he is.

[00:41:48]>> He's talking through his throat >> like a camel. He's like Yeah. It's like he has to hold it way down here at the bottom of his throat. was invited to every party in Los Angeles. I went to I had courtside seats with Jack Nicholson's at the Lakers.

[00:42:02]>> Dude, he was getting so much sl because he [ __ ] rode Harley and smoke cigarettes.

[00:42:07]>> He was the coolest.

[00:42:08]>> He was [ __ ] >> It's why we smoke cigarettes, brother.

[00:42:10]Cuz of Joe the Camel.

[00:42:11]>> And I can't even like I can't picture it, but like was he [ __ ] like female camels or was it just normal women that he always had with him?

[00:42:19]>> Oh my god.

[00:42:20]>> In the in the pictures like it was always him with babes. What's it called when you uh remember something one way?

[00:42:26]Uh even though it's not the truth or >> uh you're talking about like the fruit of the loom.

[00:42:30]>> Yeah. With the >> logo. Yeah.

[00:42:32]>> Yeah.

[00:42:33]>> Why can't I think of that word?

[00:42:34]>> Because it's that exact same effect taking place.

[00:42:37]>> Uh-huh.

[00:42:37]>> Yeah. What? So now we have two questions. What's that called? But yeah, to answer Caleb's, was Joe with human chicks or camel chicks?

[00:42:45]>> Yeah. Cuz I always remember being like, "Dude, look at all the babes he gets."

[00:42:47]But I can't remember if they were like just sexy camels or if they were just human women that he was banging.

[00:42:52]>> Yeah. Either way.

[00:42:53]>> Yeah. I mean, I think it's weird >> if he was pulling human women just cuz he was a cool camel in a leather jacket and smoking like even cooler. Like he can get a whole other species cuz he's that cool.

[00:43:02]>> Okay. So, it's the Mandela effect when you forget [ __ ] or you misremember it.

[00:43:06]>> Yes.

[00:43:07]>> And we're checking on camel babes.

[00:43:09]>> Yeah. Like was he getting in the camel or I hope it's human women cuz that makes it even cooler.

[00:43:15]>> I think it is. I think it is >> cuz then you're like you're like I'm not worried about getting like camel women.

[00:43:20]I don't if I if smoking cigarettes makes me have to have sex with camels I'm not interested. But if I'm going to get hot babe >> human women smell better.

[00:43:26]>> Yeah.

[00:43:27]>> Yeah.

[00:43:27]>> That's going to be way cooler.

[00:43:31]>> You guys have to talk about something else. Oh, see that's a chick camel.

[00:43:35]>> Is this a female camel?

[00:43:36]>> It's both.

[00:43:37]>> Okay. Oh [ __ ] Uh >> that's some guy in the advert that's some guy an advertiser executive be like, "All right, it's starting to weird people out that he's having sex with other camels.

[00:43:47]>> We have to have them have sex with human ladies now."

[00:43:49]>> Yeah. It's not as appealing cuz like we don't want to [ __ ] the camel.

[00:43:52]>> Yeah. Like >> I think that was the idea. It's like >> um kind of like if you're watching porn, you've put yourself in the position of the dude.

[00:44:03]>> Yeah. So you don't want to have a dick.

[00:44:06]Yeah. Oh, never mind.

[00:44:08]Yeah, I can't watch porn if it's like way not real.

[00:44:11]>> Okay, well, this isn't relatable to me cuz he's got monster [ __ ] I need to find average dick porn.

[00:44:15]>> But in the in the Joe Camel example, it's like you can kind of bypass the fact that he's a camel.

[00:44:22]>> Mhm.

[00:44:22]>> But that camel's getting human snatched.

[00:44:25]>> Yeah. Like he's that cool from the cigarettes >> because then you can put yourself in the position of the camel.

[00:44:29]>> That's Camel Joe.

[00:44:30]>> Yeah.

[00:44:31]>> I guess that's why they have a hump.

[00:44:35]>> Damn. But >> yeah, he's a [ __ ] All those camel girls walking around with their humps plum full of [ __ ] Joe load, dude.

[00:44:43]>> Yeah, that's where he keeps it all.

[00:44:45]>> Yeah, he fills them up.

[00:44:46]>> So, you can only imagine those uh >> those Asian camels that have the two humps. They're really packing. Yeah, >> that's crazy.

[00:44:54]>> Joe Joe's just a he's a Arab camel.

[00:44:56]>> Yeah, he's cool as [ __ ] though. Dude, I my favorite thing when I was out in the Middle East, and I've seen this in quite a few Middle Eastern countries is you'll be I've I experienced this a couple times, but like I remember being out in the middle of nowhere. Kuwait Kuwait is like a couple cities and nothing desert for as >> Yeah.

[00:45:19]>> As far as the eye can see, >> there's a couple of refineries, uh, three major cities.

[00:45:25]>> Yeah. And they're all right near each other.

[00:45:27]>> Yeah.

[00:45:27]>> Yeah.

[00:45:28]>> Uddari range. I'm sure you've been there, Dave.

[00:45:30]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:45:30]>> Uh we were in the middle where nowhere like you are in the middle of nowhere.

[00:45:35]It is nothing but sand.

[00:45:37]>> Yeah.

[00:45:37]>> And uh we were like doing shooting out there or some [ __ ] and all of a sudden from the distance we're like what the [ __ ] is that out there?

[00:45:44]>> Yeah.

[00:45:44]>> And it keeps getting closer. We stop firing and it's just these bedawins uh just coming on from the distance.

[00:45:51]They just been walking for days with their camels. But dude, seeing camels >> just walking across the desert is >> just one of the coolest things to see.

[00:46:02]It's one thing to have them at the zoo or some [ __ ] but when you're seeing them doing their camel [ __ ] in Arabia, it's like the coolest thing to look at.

[00:46:10]>> Yeah. So, like my last deployment, we were actually in Kuwait the whole time, which made it feel more like a TDY than a deployment.

[00:46:16]>> Well, more people have died in Kuwait recently than Iraq or Syria or Afghanistan.

[00:46:21]>> Combat branches are back.

[00:46:23]>> Yeah. Uh but anyway, so like instead of just going to the bases and like the ranges, I spend a lot of time actually driving around Kuwait in like a non-tactical vehicle.

[00:46:32]>> Yeah.

[00:46:32]>> So you run into the Bedawins just doing their thing.

[00:46:34]>> Yeah.

[00:46:35]>> Uh the most gorgeous night sky I've ever seen.

[00:46:39]>> Oh god. Yes.

[00:46:40]>> Is it out in >> in that desert?

[00:46:42]>> The dead part of Kuwait but not near a military base.

[00:46:45]>> Yep, dude. Um, and fun thing about uh kind of Kuwait history is we associate their royal family, their royalty as Arab. They're not Arab. They're actually Persian uh ethnically in their origins.

[00:47:00]The only true Kuwaitis that exist are the Bedawins. They're really the only indigenous true people to that land.

[00:47:09]Kuwait was settled by Persians that just took control of the country, you know, hundreds of years ago. But the veterans are the actual true Kuwaitis.

[00:47:19]>> I I just had to look it up on on one of our travels. We were going into Idaho and we came to this town and you guys know what KOAS are.

[00:47:28]>> Yeah. The camping >> Yeah.

[00:47:30]>> I think they're like in every state, right?

[00:47:31]>> Yeah. Yeah. So, we like we camped at those a lot. That was usually how we did especially when we first started out cuz none of us were making much money. So, dude, I remember our first trip we went on, I went with 500 bucks and we were gone for two weeks. Just >> Dude, when you're young, you can make that work. Especially before gas prices.

[00:47:45]>> I was going to say when you were young 500 was a pretty good amount, >> dude. 500 I could get by easily a month on $500.

[00:47:52]>> Yeah. So, we were just paying for gas.

[00:47:53]We were eating pretty cheap and then we would like like we camped on uh BLMs most of the time, but uh every now and then like a KOA would be like, "All right, we need to do a refresher. We need to shower." They like, "What do you It's like what? 12 14 bucks."

[00:48:07]>> Yeah. Yeah. Especially like and then you you divide it between like three or four guys like you know where each paying just like five or six bucks depending on the campsite but they full shower houses and everything vending usually a lot of them even had like food stands built in them where you could like order a cheeseburger or some [ __ ] It's awesome.

[00:48:22]>> Yeah.

[00:48:22]>> But uh >> can you imagine be the sorry to interrupt the guy like hey uh so what's your how do you have all this money?

[00:48:29]He's like oh my uh family is the owner of the they have a monopoly on the camp campsites of America. Yeah.

[00:48:37]>> So, I have campsite money.

[00:48:38]>> Yeah. Like those guys, whoever's owning KOA is making >> I have an exclusive contract on KOA laundry machines.

[00:48:44]>> But we stayed in one called uh So, it's called Arco, Idaho. It was the first city in the US to be atomically powered.

[00:48:53]>> Oh, cool.

[00:48:54]>> And dude, it was the birth place of cancer.

[00:48:56]>> Is that cuz they were testing everything out there and they just absorbed it all?

[00:48:59]>> Oh, it was creepy, dude. Like when we went in there, it was like kind of light. We're pulling in and it's just like old town like ran down like this looks like where like a horror movie would take place and the grocery store was called grocery store. The movie theater was called theater.

[00:49:17]>> You got to get creative when you're the only one station. There's not another theater or grocery store in within 300 miles. So we have we can just name it that.

[00:49:25]>> Yeah. It didn't have like family names or like anything like in you know well known. And it was just like whatever this place offered, that's what it was called.

[00:49:34]>> Yeah.

[00:49:34]>> And we went into the the gas station just get a bunch of like snacks and stuff for the night. And everything was so dusty like and probably there's probably like dust storms that come through there like regularly cuz it's middle of [ __ ] nowhere like in the desert before you start going into the mountains like towards Idaho. But dude, it was so eerie and like the lighting was weird and like there'd be sounds. It was like first atomically powered town blah blah blah. like it was like a a time capsule. And then up on the mountain side is like all these numbers just like wrote and like you're all like kind of like blending together. But apparently like one of the things there is like every year whatever year is graduating that year of of high school, they go and they write their year number up on the mountain side. So it was just like hundreds of numbers spray painted on the side of the >> They don't replace the previous year, they just add it. Boy, it's just like a whole giant mountain and they just like anywhere they can find a spot, they write they [ __ ] spray paint their year number up on it. Uh but dude, it was just like so eerie in that town. It was like quiet as [ __ ] There was like we didn't see like any other cars moving while we were there. Like the campsite had plenty of people in it, but it was just like sketchy as [ __ ] as they did.

[00:50:42]Like we're going to die in this town.

[00:50:43]Like >> that was my experience in Amboy, California.

[00:50:47]>> Oo, a ghost a ghost town. The guy who owned the town basically leased it out to the government to do military training. Yeah.

[00:50:56]>> So we would do we'd stay in this town for like a week to do like this real world training, but it was >> an abandoned ghost town in bump [ __ ] desert, California. And >> it's ev So Charlie Manson grew up there when he was a kid when it was there were still people living there.

[00:51:10]>> Yeah.

[00:51:11]>> And so it attracts a lot of weird people that just show up there.

[00:51:15]>> It was just like the creepy that kind of creepy [ __ ] Like we were staying in this abandoned like a a schoolhouse that was built in like 1910 for a town of 100.

[00:51:25]>> Yeah.

[00:51:26]>> And it we were staying in the old gym.

[00:51:28]It was like the creep. I had already been on three. I'd been to Iraq three times at that point. I'm surrounded by Marines with purple hearts and bronze stars and [ __ ] And we were like freaking out. We have this I don't it's like we had this um primal fear of of being in that situation that >> not even war brought out of us >> there. It's something more insidious when you're in that dark >> a literal ghost town.

[00:51:55]>> Yeah. Oh, dude. It Yeah, it it was eerie feeling like you it we the whole time we were there like dude like something's going to happen like this is the sketchiest town.

[00:52:03]>> But uh >> Hills Have Eyes didn't take place in Appalachia. It took place in the western desert specifically like California.

[00:52:09]>> Yeah. Cuz that was where they were doing the nuclear testing. That's where they were that's why they were the way they were. But uh even that whole drive in there and some of the other places it was like just ur uranium mines everywhere. Yeah. And like there'd be uh that they put poles up and stuff in front of them. There was like do not enter like uranium mine and like [ __ ] like that.

[00:52:27]>> It it's such it's such an America problem where we associate traum.

[00:52:35]It's a really horrible exercise we have in this country. Goes back to the Civil War. I'm not going to go down that road.

[00:52:41]>> But like some of the weirdest, shittiest people I've ever come across in my life are in that like >> eastern California, northern Arizona, >> Southern Utah, basically everywhere in Nevada other than Vegas and Reno, probably even Reno.

[00:53:01]There's some weird people that live out in that chunk of America. I'm not saying all of them. My the the person I love more than anything on this planet is from desert California. When we think of California, we think of San Francisco or the Redwoods or LA.

[00:53:18]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:53:19]>> No, it Yeah, you're right. It's like uh Arizona. Like if you're not in Phoenix or Tucson, you're probably [ __ ] weird because you're living in the most >> nonhabitable part of the [ __ ] country.

[00:53:32]>> Yeah.

[00:53:33]>> Willingly.

[00:53:34]>> This beautiful woman in my life that's from that area, she she's lived in North Carolina for years, but when she ever she runs across another person from that part of California, they're in this weird fraternity where it's just like, "Oh, you got out of there, too?"

[00:53:47]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:53:48]>> We made it. We made it out.

[00:53:49]>> We didn't. We didn't. Yeah.

[00:53:50]>> Oh, [ __ ] Yeah, I mean it was it was spooky. But yeah, like that that almost kind of like made the trips though cuz you're like nervous as [ __ ] There was a couple times we stayed in like some hotels that just seemed like a grandma's house and we were just in like a random spare bedroom of a grandma's house and it was like also you're like, "Dude, we could die tonight." Like this seems like this seems like a front where chainsaw like Texas Chainsaw [ __ ] goes on.

[00:54:14]>> I guarantee you everyone who's wrote those classic movies or novels about that [ __ ] >> it's based on that. He had an experience driving cross country.

[00:54:23]>> Yeah. Where they've stopped at places in Nevada or wherever >> and they just base it on that. That was one night for >> that hotel was super creepy. Let's do drugs and write about it.

[00:54:32]>> Yeah.

[00:54:33]>> That was one uh BLM we stayed at that we were like, "Dude, we're we're getting picked up by the cartel tonight. Like, we're dying tonight." when we had to drive this like side road like five miles in the to the middle of [ __ ] nowhere and we were on like the the border like New Mexico and it was in the there was it wasn't even like campsites or anything. It was just in the middle of nowhere and then on the map it was just like this whole section green like this is all BLM. We're like okay I guess we can camp here. But there was just [ __ ] dirt road. There was so much like traffic that was going through there at like 2:00 and 3:00 in the morning and like we would kind of like peek out and it would just be like GM like black GMC's and [ __ ] like that and the whole time we were just like dude like >> could be government vehicles.

[00:55:16]>> Exactly. Also we were just like dude like we're not in a good spot like this is we're like >> we we would do training out there where we would drive like five six hours from Camp Pendleton to go into that those bum [ __ ] areas and we'd have like >> gubbies and stuff like that.

[00:55:31]>> Yeah, dude. We were so nervous on that, but it like almost made like the trips that much more exciting cuz we're like, "Dude, we might die at this campsite."

[00:55:37]Like, who [ __ ] knows?

[00:55:38]>> Yeah. No one's coming home talking about how [ __ ] awesome Hampton Inn was.

[00:55:43]>> Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah. And that's what made it and that's that I want to experience that way. And that's why I'm like pumped to get the truck built up like that so I can just be It just gets Especially now that I'm older, like if I sleep not great at night, I'm [ __ ] >> Like I feel like [ __ ] And then cuz we were driving like >> It's only going to get worse, Caleb.

[00:55:59]>> Yeah. Take it from me, a 28-year-old.

[00:56:02]When you get to be my age, it's going to get worse.

[00:56:04]>> Oh [ __ ] But it was like, you know, you're driving 6 and 7 hours most days and then we're having to like hike most of those days, too. So, it's like if I'm not sleeping decent, I'm like I'm [ __ ] Cuz on that very last trip we went on, I had already had like I had like tweaked my back like a couple weeks prior and I was having like a lot of sciatic problems. That trip was still an amazing trip, but it was I was like miserable most of that trip. But I had like a killer headache. Like I couldn't sleep good. Like sitting in the car, I was like moving around the whole time cuz like my lower back was killing me.

[00:56:35]So I was like, dude, I was like, I want to almost glamp from now on when I go.

[00:56:40]Like I want to make sure that I'm comfortable. I ordered like this. Some brand makes like a really nice sleeping pad that's just like a thick memory foam. It's like [ __ ] once it comes out, it's like a 8 inch thick memory foam pad. So I was like, I'm going to put this in that [ __ ] tent. It's like a three person tent. I've got like a a fan that I'm going to hang from the ceiling. So, I'm getting like air like I'm gonna [ __ ] do it up and just be as comfortable as I can be when I'm traveling. Uh cuz I want to like fully be able to enjoy the nature and all the other [ __ ] and not just feel like [ __ ] the whole time.

[00:57:10]>> Yeah. Like I think luxury overlanding Yeah.

[00:57:15]>> is a good compromise between just [ __ ] hating your life and like having to drag a fifth wheel around.

[00:57:20]>> Yeah. Like Oh, yeah. that I could I I would never want to have to drive and like pull a big camper like or something like that. I would eventually that's a goal. I want to get one of the smaller RVs at some point that's like >> a class C would be cool.

[00:57:31]>> Like the like short bus sized like those like you can still drive it pretty much anywhere.

[00:57:35]>> Uh the ones that look >> like you're just showing off how much money you have are those earth rors.

[00:57:41]>> That looks awesome. But >> if I were a logistical nightmare, >> if I were crazy rich, sure I would be all about an Earth R. But those crazy rich types of people don't even freaking >> they don't take them where they technically can. It's like people that buy G Wagons, like you're not off-roading that [ __ ] thing. Yeah.

[00:57:59]This is to just show that you have money.

[00:58:01]>> Yeah.

[00:58:01]>> Yeah. Uh like uh half the people that live in this town.

[00:58:04]>> Sure. Yeah.

[00:58:05]>> Wearing their freaking Lily Pulitzer dresses around and their freaking >> designer jeans. But no. Yeah. If I was like making big money, I would absolutely get an Earth drummer cuz that's like you can take it anywhere and you got it's like two king-size beds in that [ __ ] And the bathroom, it's a fulls size bathroom inside. It has like a [ __ ] wine fridge. Like I don't want that. Like I don't need that goofiness.

[00:58:28]But having a a nice place that's like AC. It's got a full nice king-size bed and like you can bring your bros and they've got plenty of [ __ ] room in a bread a bed too. You can cook in there.

[00:58:38]Like that would be [ __ ] dope. Uh but till then >> respectfully disagree. Yeah. I want >> I kind of want to do the experience as well. Like I want to like I want to get those beds that pull out like the um storage things that pull out in the back of my bed that has like my cooking [ __ ] in it and like you know pull out my my frying pans.

[00:58:58]>> It sounds awesome. It's just >> combining your on-road vehicle with your off-road vehicle.

[00:59:05]>> Yeah.

[00:59:06]>> Sounds like it's just you're trying to throw too much at it at once. And >> if you're going to have like a trailer that you drop, but you dragged it there with an off-road capable vehicle, that's the nice middle ground.

[00:59:16]>> Yeah, cuz it's it's almost unless I'm going to be [ __ ] doing this all the time, there's no way I'd want to spend that much money on something that I'm just using a a few weeks out of a year, >> right? Like you'd probably just you'd be better off just renting a lot of that kind of stuff.

[00:59:29]>> Yeah. Yeah. So, uh unless I was going to like be like, you know what, for the next few years I'm traveling like once a month, I'm driving this [ __ ] somewhere for a week. Then I could justify it. But until then, I want to like just really deck out my truck cuz they have they have the the fridge coolers that you can get that like you can run like power and adapt to your truck so it like charges them while you're driving and then and all the cooking stuff that you can get and it pulls out. Like that would be [ __ ] dope. You can get that long tube of water that holds like 40 gallons of water and and it has like some of them even heat and [ __ ] for like taking your showers and spraying stuff off. Like just build the truck out sick would be [ __ ] dope.

[01:00:04]>> Yep.

[01:00:04]>> So that's the goal. Uh cuz Yeah. I just I want to [ __ ] go see some [ __ ] again, man. And and spend cuz a lot of those trips we were only like the way we planned them out, you know, were stupid.

[01:00:14]We were only getting to spend like half a day in each of these parks. Like I'd like to go and spend a day or two in each and and really [ __ ] you know, absorb it all and see everything I could.

[01:00:22]>> Well, to go on a trip where you, I guess, technically have a destination.

[01:00:26]Yeah. But no time to be there.

[01:00:27]>> Exact. Yeah.

[01:00:28]>> It prevents you from having to pass up [ __ ] that you're curious about.

[01:00:31]>> Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And you like you're you're going to overlook so much. Yeah.

[01:00:36]That's the key is to make your schedule to where if you're driving to from point A to point B and you see something that's cool, you can feel comfortable pulling over and enjoying it.

[01:00:45]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[01:00:46]>> That's that literally is the key to any type of road trip cuz I've been road tripping a lot in Europe lately.

[01:00:51]>> But that's what we did when we were in Ireland is we gave ourselves time to just stop off if we saw a castle to go to this castle that's not on the tourist map.

[01:01:00]>> Yeah. Yeah. That and cuz Yeah. There's no way to account for like so many of the random little things like there even just like little there was like a shop that was built into this cave in a back road like coming from New Mexico like this cool trinket shop that had all these like fossils and like old [ __ ] and so like yeah let's go check it out an old cowboy town in the middle of the [ __ ] mountains in uh Idaho that we went to and did like a little tour of like it was like we were there for like 4 hours.

[01:01:27]>> You should know where you're staying.

[01:01:28]You should know where the gas stations are along the way, but you should give yourself time to [ __ ] explore. Be serendipitous. That is the key to happiness in those kind of situations.

[01:01:39]>> Have some [ __ ] whimsy in your life.

[01:01:41]>> Yeah. Get crazy, dude. Be a little >> This country lacks whimsy, dude.

[01:01:45]>> Yeah, we need some more of it for sure.

[01:01:47]>> Can I go on a [ __ ] rant?

[01:01:48]>> Yeah.

[01:01:51]>> AI has broken my brain.

[01:01:53]>> Okay.

[01:01:53]>> And it's not because I personally rely on it too much. Yeah. It's not because I I use I do use chat GPT for a little bit of stuff. I use the music software.

[01:02:01]>> Sure.

[01:02:02]>> But it's because companies have become so reliant on you as having like customer service AI.

[01:02:09]>> Oh yeah.

[01:02:10]>> Like I I had just gotten done doing my taxes, which I've used someone for years. This year this last year was this weird thing where I I could probably do it on my own, which I shouldn't have done. Um, but like I was doing like Turboax or whatever it is. Yeah. And I was constantly communicating with AI customer support.

[01:02:30]So you're talking to a computer. So you and and if you know how to use chat GBT or the any AI, you have to be very matterof fact. You have to be very blunt and direct with it, right?

[01:02:43]>> Um, >> well, I I was boarding to go on this work trip recently and I'm getting blown up on my phone. I'm like, "This is uh Hampton in. We want to make sure you're comfortable and everything and we we notice something in your um your uh reservation that might not uh make sense or whatever." And I thought it was like an AI thing because every >> swinging dick corporation is using AI for customer service. So, I was being very direct and >> if >> if you were talking to a human like that in person, this I'm like, "Oh, this guy's either autistic or an asshole."

[01:03:16]>> Yeah. Like, but I was talking to it like that way because I thought it was a I was talking to a [ __ ] computer. Yeah.

[01:03:21]I was being very direct. Well, I show up to the Hampton Inn. That's what Jo You mentioned, the Hampton in earlier. I showed up to the Hampton Inn in Clinton, Oklahoma >> for this job. And I and I saw the name tag and it was Alyssa >> who what I thought was this AI bot, but this was some nice young girl who was trying to fix this problem for me. And I was talking to her like an [ __ ] and she's like, "I thought you were mad at me." I'm like, "I thought you were a computer."

[01:03:50]>> Yeah.

[01:03:52]>> To be fair, like you might have been aggressive with her, but customer service, especially if you're not face to face.

[01:03:59]>> Uh they just get [ __ ] on.

[01:04:01]>> Yeah. Like >> Right. And I worked customer service over the phone for four years.

[01:04:05]>> Yeah.

[01:04:06]>> And people are [ __ ] bold when they can't get reached out and touched.

[01:04:09]>> Yeah. Not to say that like I could kick anyone's ass, >> but like I worked for Apple >> over the phone >> and just got talked [ __ ] to all day long.

[01:04:19]>> I worked four weeks for Apple in store.

[01:04:22]>> Yeah.

[01:04:23]>> And people kind of watch what they say when they're in public.

[01:04:25]>> Yeah. Yeah. Sure.

[01:04:27]Yeah. No, that's uh I could never do that, dude. Cuz >> it wore me It made me a worse person.

[01:04:33]>> I'm sure. Yeah. Probably pissed off all day. wor me down over a few years where like >> I just hate the general population now.

[01:04:40]>> Yeah. Shout out to my old colleague from years ago, Remy Fulwood in Durham, North Carolina. I doubt she's watching this.

[01:04:48]Uh she was our customer service person at this company I worked at and she was a grumpy little lady every single day. And then I saw what she had to deal with and I'm like, "Okay, I get it.

[01:05:01]>> I get it."

[01:05:01]>> Yeah. And now apply that like my dad was a cop in Los Angeles for 20 odd years.

[01:05:08]>> Yeah.

[01:05:08]>> Uh and he's just kind of a pessimistic grumpy [ __ ] dude.

[01:05:11]>> Yeah.

[01:05:11]>> As retired cops tend to be >> because I don't have cops coming to my house being a normal citizen with no drama in my life.

[01:05:19]>> They're just literally dealing with the drama and the shitty people of the population >> all day every day.

[01:05:27]>> We're going to get a little sour after a while.

[01:05:29]>> Yeah. You know why Rich High? You know what? He he uh he's been he loves being a cop. He loves being a cop, >> but he also has a strategy about how to keep himself happy and vibrant and >> um he's like he's like you can't be only friends with cops. You have to have non-op friends because cops will be around it's any job really. If you're only around people you work with all you talk about is we >> Yeah, >> we tend to do that. Yeah, >> but like but imagine if you're cops, all you're doing is talking about negative [ __ ] all day long. So Rich has a lot of non-op friends where it can keep him grounded and feeling normal.

[01:06:08]>> Yeah. Yeah, that's definitely smart.

[01:06:11]Well, cool. Uh, thank you guys for hanging out with us. Jack, thank you for replacing Heather this week. Uh, >> I'm not replacing Heather. I am Heather.

[01:06:23]>> Oh, yes. Yeah, >> it's me, Heather. I'm in here.

[01:06:27]>> I'm gonna I've been farting in this chair so much. She's gonna [ __ ] seal the warmth and it's gonna just sit in here.

[01:06:34]>> What the hell is like punch a hole in my cushion?

[01:06:38]>> Well, cool. Uh, we'll see you guys over on time for sips. And if not, we'll catch you next week on Time for Pie.

[01:06:46]TFS.