Predator Finally Receives the Sentence He Deserves

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[00:00:00]I'm going to ask you very direct, yes or no question. Did you request sexual acts be performed on that child?

[00:00:06]Yes.

[00:00:07]What sexual acts were requested? I let the individual make that decision.

[00:00:11]That's not true. Once again, what sexual acts did you request to have?

[00:00:20]What you just heard is not a scene from a movie. It is real. It happened in the summer of 2025 inside an interrogation van parked somewhere in Indiana.

[00:00:30]The man answering those questions is Alec Heggie, 31 years old, army veteran, behavior technician, father, fiance, a man who on the surface had built what looked like an admirable life.

[00:00:44]But underneath all of it was something so dark, so calculated, and so deeply disturbing that it would eventually earn him 91 years behind bars. This is the full story from the moment investigators walked up to him to the moment he finally broke. Stay with me because this one matters. How you doing, Alec?

[00:01:05]>> Good, sir.

[00:01:06]How are you? Good.

[00:01:07]I'm Detective Boardman, okay? Okay, you're with uh Greenfield?

[00:01:11]>> Greenfield, yeah. Okay. All right, so we're going to go have a little chat, all right? All right. Um Nothing to do with uh Greenfield at all, sir? That's all right. Yeah, we're we're part of a a task force, all right?

[00:01:22]>> Oh, okay. We're just going to talk about some uh online activity. Okay. All right. Sounds good. I'll show you.

[00:01:27]Sounds good? Yep. All right. Um keys and tape measure. Okay. Have you been Has he been patted down? Yeah, I just an exterior real quick just to make sure no one Do you need to do any more I mean, whatever you need to do.

[00:01:39]Okay. No, just just relax, all right?

[00:01:41]We're just going to have a little chat, all right?

[00:01:43]>> All right, Detective. Um So Are we good? Do you want my vehicle there or can we pull it over to the gas station?

[00:01:50]>> it over there. Do you give me permission to pull it over If you don't mind, I'll just No, we can't let you back in the car right now. We're just We're just going to have a quick chat, but we uh we will pull your car out of the way if you're good with it.

[00:02:02]>> with that. Um let me give you the the little file because you know how those are.

[00:02:06]>> Yeah, yeah.

[00:02:08]It'll be recorded, so. All right. No worries.

[00:02:10]>> any other keys in your pocket or anything for the van or is it No, no, that's the only one for the van. The the rest are for house and stuff, and then my cell phone is right up there.

[00:02:18]>> you got in That is Well, uh yeah, wallet. I'll search wallet, keys, >> a bunch of wallets.

[00:02:25]Well, I got I This one's uh like cards and stuff. Yeah. And then the back one is because it doesn't have good for cash. I just keep my cash in an old one like that.

[00:02:35]>> Got you.

[00:02:37]Got you.

[00:02:38]I hate having stuff in my pockets.

[00:02:40]That's a lot. Yeah. Yeah, well, you guys have a lot more uh what do I say?

[00:02:44]Fidelity and dexterity that you need to be able to run and move. What uh What do you do for work? I see you got tape measure there. Um I'm actually a behavior technician, but I also my dad is a contractor, so I know how to do a little bit of everything. So, I was uh helping him out um laying down some vinyl flooring. Oh, yeah.

[00:03:01]>> Tonight uh today, so I actually got my uh T-squares in the front seat. All right, they're big old orange ones. Got you. All right, we'll just go right over here to my car real quick.

[00:03:12]Thank you. Yep.

[00:03:14]Well, we're just going to have a chat, all right? Notice how relaxed Heggie sounds. He's talking about flooring, tape measures, his dad being a contractor. He is calm, almost chatty.

[00:03:25]But the investigators know exactly who they're talking to and exactly why they stopped him. This wasn't a random stop.

[00:03:32]This was a coordinated operation, a joint task force involving local detectives and a federal agent from the Department of Homeland Security.

[00:03:41]They had been tracking an online network connected to a case that had already blown open in Ohio, just a state away.

[00:03:49]And every piece of digital evidence they had collected pointed straight to Alec Heggie.

[00:03:55]The question now was simple. How much would he admit once they get him inside the van? They start building what investigators call rapport, and they are very good at it. Well, listen, I'm good at getting at it. I know it was probably a lot of a lot of pressure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, really what we're what we're here to do, this is Mike. And he's And he's he's kind of part of our team.

[00:04:16]>> I'm sorry? Who are you with, Mike? I'm with uh the federal government. I'm a federal agent.

[00:04:21]That's the FBI? No, God, no. Then which agency?

[00:04:26]I'm sorry? Which agency?

[00:04:27]>> US Department of Homeland Security. DHS?

[00:04:30]We basically we need your help, okay?

[00:04:32]Okay. We can't change anything about the past. We can't change things that could happen. Mhm. But what we're able to do with information uh from folks like you that are kind of down the line from the the acute incident that happened Uh-huh.

[00:04:45]is you're able to point us in directions where there are other kids at risk. Mhm.

[00:04:49]And that's our goal here today, the three of us uh with our uh reach and stuff with uh the federal government, uh we're able to reach out, we're able to find those kids.

[00:05:00]Any information that you have, no matter how minuscule, Okay. might be able to help us do that. That's going to be the crux of the conversation here today.

[00:05:08]Now, we're going to talk to you a little bit about how we got here because it's important for us to all understand that.

[00:05:13]Mhm. But beyond that, any information that you guys or that you're able to tell us to get these guys pointed in the right direction, say the kid.

[00:05:21]You and I might have a conversation later. That's going to be 100% up to you. Yeah, so like I said, like I explained to you earlier, uh we're here about some some internet activity. Yeah.

[00:05:32]Okay.

[00:05:33]Uh Do you feel this is bothering you?

[00:05:36]No, I I I just uh I wasn't sure if you Yeah, we're probably >> it was bothering you or not.

[00:05:42]You were looking at it like it was It's getting a little heavy. It was hard for it. There go.

[00:05:47]Make it easy for you. Yeah.

[00:05:50]Um So, yeah, we're here um possible internet activity. Uh Special Agent Johnson uh explained to you you know there's really not a question of um why we're here.

[00:06:02]>> So, again, so I still even haven't been told that honestly.

[00:06:07]>> So, So, that's why I when he was like I think you have a pretty good idea. Um you're talking about what agencies are here cuz you have an idea of of why we're here. Well, I I mean there there's what reasoning. It's just I don't know the specifics. I mean, I can surmise that it is something of stature.

[00:06:28]Okay. So, I just don't know what of stature. Yeah. I should say I know it is of stature but not the minutia. Yeah. Yeah. So, we're here basically um trying to get your help on on the on an on an ongoing case that um stemmed from from Cleveland. Mhm. Um are you familiar with that? No, I'm just saying mhm to I'm I'm I'm reaffirming what you're saying. Yeah. Okay. And and online relationship that you may have had with uh Holly Duncan.

[00:07:06]You familiar with with Holly Duncan?

[00:07:08]Yes, sir. Okay.

[00:07:10]Um Yeah, not spoken in a long while now. Okay. So, And with that being said, we're not the moral police. We're not We're not anything like that. We're not going to go, you know, talk to your I mean, we're not going to go blabbing to your wife about, you know, any relationship that you really necessarily had online.

[00:07:28]Um it's it's more like Special Agent Johnson was talking about is the well-being of these children and what information that you may be able to provide to um to rescue some of these kids that are involved in in this investigation. Let's pause here for a second.

[00:07:49]Because what the detectives are doing right now is a textbook interrogation technique. They're telling Heggie they're not the moral police. They're telling him they are not going to judge him. They're telling him they are not going to talk to his wife. They are making him feel safe.

[00:08:04]Safe enough to start talking and it works because within minutes Heggie starts opening up about exactly how he met the woman at the center of this case. Her name was Molly Elizabeth Duncan.

[00:08:15]She was a nanny in the Cleveland area in Ohio.

[00:08:19]And according to the Department of Justice, she had been creating child sexual abuse material of toddler aged victims >> [music] >> and sharing it with multiple users on social media.

[00:08:29]Alec Heggie appears to have been one of those users and not a passive one. How'd you guys meet? Um met on on online and then after that Which which platform?

[00:08:44]Uh I want to say it was uh Snapchat.

[00:08:48]Snapchat? Yeah.

[00:08:49]Okay.

[00:08:51]And that was through the Snapchat?

[00:08:54]Do you remember what your username was when you talked to her at the time?

[00:08:57]Um I want to say it was uh I used an online pseudonym or it was Alec Park or something like that.

[00:09:10]Got you. Just kind of came up with the with the name? Yeah. Close enough but Yeah, yeah. different, you know.

[00:09:17]Cuz everybody already calls me Alex as is, so And it's spelled >> I mean it's spelled it's spelled kind of the same. It is. Pretty fine kind of thing. Keeps somebody from one guy in here. Uh Go ahead. I'm sorry. Al- Alex A L E X yeah, I got you. Yeah, exactly exactly how you You don't still have it now anymore? No.

[00:09:36]No. When did you get rid of that?

[00:09:39]Months ago.

[00:09:41]Okay.

[00:09:42]Cuz just stopped talking. She like We just stopped talking that way and then I like, okay, well, I don't need this anymore, so just posted it out and then it was like no reason to keep it. When you met her, were you just randomly Like, how did you come across her profile in the first place? Did you guys Just that scrolling or how did scrolling that like like community, you know, type thing.

[00:10:05]So, did you go Okay, again, I'm I'm just being honest with you asking this cuz I I'm not playing mind tricks, right? No, no, no, I get So, you get on there, is it like a forum or like a some sort of There's like your suggested. It's all It's all It's all algorithmic stuff.

[00:10:18]>> Okay. I don't even understand. So, you just came across this >> Just came across it. I was like, like Just clicked and like add friend, add friend, add friend, add friend, you get it. And you just started from there? We just started from there having a conversation. And you just started from there? We just started from there having a conversation.

[00:10:33]>> Got you.

[00:10:35]And when when about was that?

[00:10:39]I can't remember off the top of I mean, like within the last year or like when did you guys first >> Oh, let's see here. We probably haven't talked, let's see here, in about 4 months now, uh with give or take.

[00:10:54]I mean But like the first initial >> first initial it was about a year, maybe. I got you. So, you guys chatted for about a year? A year or so, yeah.

[00:11:02]Off and on.

[00:11:04]Yeah. Some days it was more frequently, other days it was like, you know, a week at a time, no conversation. It's just that normal ebb and flow of Yeah. conversation. I got you.

[00:11:18]Okay.

[00:11:18]And what of the So, did you guys have What was your relationship like?

[00:11:27]Um I would say it was like online like fling type like nothing serious or anything like that ever. So like just kinky talking >> Kinky talking stuff exactly. Like what kind of stuff are you guys into?

[00:11:48]Uh it was just like uh it was all You're not You're not going to tell us anything that we haven't heard.

[00:11:55]>> I was going to say clearly clearly you already know. So you you you know uh the the the case and stuff that we saw.

[00:12:03]Uh yeah, it was just kind of like her um affinity for the like adult like I want to say like for adult toddler being herself fetish type thing. So I just just kind of indulged her in that. Got you. So you guys had You guys had to have a talk about toddler being and Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:12:30]It was just like like I said it was more or less just kind of indulged her in her her fantasy.

[00:12:35]>> In her fantasy. Yeah.

[00:12:38]Okay.

[00:12:39]Just just it was like kind of like a relationship outside me and the missus were kind of going through some stuff at the time. So it was just kind of an outlet just to blow off >> Yeah, sure. Was she the only person you were ever talking to or were you talking to multiple girls or you think you were doing that with? Uh it She was like the pretty much the primary one that I was only talking to.

[00:12:57]Okay.

[00:12:59]And you guys always stay on Snapchat or did you move to other platforms or did you have Um I think we did Snapchat and a little bit on Telegram. Okay.

[00:13:08]You still have it on your phone Telegram?

[00:13:10]>> No.

[00:13:11]Got you.

[00:13:12]What applications do you have on your phone? I guess maybe ask you that.

[00:13:15]What? Applications on your phone now, what would you say?

[00:13:21]Just like normal applications and stuff like What I mean like if someone was to now I pull my phone up I'm going to look at my my you know iPhone so YouTube is primarily what I use cuz I I just use like the YouTube stories listen to a lot of political commentary. At this point, Heggy is still trying to downplay everything.

[00:13:42]Online fling, her fetish. He was just indulging her. He keeps making himself sound like a passive bystander.

[00:13:51]Someone who was simply present when things went wrong. But the investigators know the full picture and they are slowly, methodically closing the circle around him. What is also important to understand here is who Alec Heggy was in his daily life. He worked as a behavior technician.

[00:14:09]Someone who works directly with children and young adults on the autism spectrum, guiding them through real-world social situations, taking them to grocery stores, [music] teaching them how to manage daily life.

[00:14:22]He held a position of trust.

[00:14:24]He'd served in the Army Reserves for 11 years.

[00:14:28]He was engaged. He had children. He was not some isolated, obviously disturbed individual living on the fringes of society.

[00:14:36]He was embedded in a community.

[00:14:39]And that is precisely what makes this story so chilling.

[00:14:42]>> What I want to understand is what you saw.

[00:14:44]What did I saw? Yeah, you know how did we get to the kids? What what led you what led what led to the videos being sent of of the children?

[00:14:54]It was just of her and then she would just start sending the the videos and the and stuff.

[00:15:03]Will you elaborate cuz there may be children that like you're being very very vague and I get that on on on the front end, but we need you to to be a little more specific and elaborate like so, you know, there was fantasy chat between you guys and it started out with the diaper fetish and you know, between you and her and then that led to and I I'm just I'm going to make the assumption then that that led to her choosing to move into a How do I want to word it? Uh I don't a basically moving to the moving it up.

[00:15:49]Okay. And does that does that make sense? So what was her job? Did she Was she How did she have access to children?

[00:15:55]She said she was a nanny. I don't I have no I've never met her in person or anything like that. Like I said, everything's been purely online. I I have I've never met up, never anything that way.

[00:16:05]Um so >> call her on the phone or did you guys only talk via Snapchat? Via Snapchat.

[00:16:09]Did you ever Did you call via Snapchat, too? Was there any audio?

[00:16:12]>> Yes. Okay. No that's what I'm saying.

[00:16:14]Everything was It There was There was some video like Snapchat calls and that type of stuff, but everything was contained within that app. Okay.

[00:16:26]It it That answer your question?

[00:16:29]And what we're trying to get at again is I know you were trying to I'm not playing mind games with you.

[00:16:33]Like we had seen stuff, but we also I want I need to know what you're what you saw that you know, hey this was actually wasn't AI. It wasn't like you know, what what was it that you saw? Yeah. When you went from just her to the kids she's nannying nannying or where where and her >> It's It's care stead, whatever you want to call terminology. So yeah. So So your knowledge, what do you recall when it wasn't her and it was stuff she was staying with with the children? Obviously candid stuff. It was Any other things? It seemed like it from there it was like pretty much candid like during like um diaper changes or like clothing changes, that that type of in nature there. Okay. That that's what It from my recollection and Yeah. was primarily of that.

[00:17:21]And what And what would she do during the diaper changes?

[00:17:25]I mean, it was just like she would, you know, picture of the uh uh individual or um you know, during the diaper change in the process of it. That That was typically what I can remember.

[00:17:44]So, yeah, I just want to kind of circle back. Uh I know it's not easy to talk about. We're not like you said, we're not here as a moral police or or anything like that. We're not here to to judge or We just really want to like meet and learn >> victims. And we're here for the victims, but we need to kind of get into the psyche of uh like how we how we got to the children. Like there's there wasn't uh Like how did we go from I I mean, I get the diaper thing and the the fetish and, you know, one thing leads to the next, but can you explain those conversations a little bit? Like how we how we got there?

[00:18:31]I think it just was progression of me indulging with her addiction fantasy.

[00:18:40]Yeah.

[00:18:41]It It It I think it was just she was looking for someone who was willing to indulge in that with her, and I just was, like I said, not in a good space personally, and I just, you know, just Yeah. chose to indulge, and it just I want to say the uh endorphins potential hypothesized >> felt good? Yeah, for her. And so, she kept going on to the next because I kept indulging and You say indulging obviously, so and and again man, the more I'm talking to you it sounds like you know you're the guy that's you know, again you probably just whatever you're going to do with your wife or your lady. Yeah. Fiancée, sorry.

[00:19:34]Yeah, yeah, no you're good. And you you know, had this fling fling with her, but um you're saying indulging her, but also I mean there's there's we I mean there's no question that you were attracted to that journal because you you have you know, I'm assuming you were masturbating to that or you were sending an image of your erect penis and you're turning yourself on as well, not just her. So it's kind of both ways like It is. It is. Is there something with the the the diaper stuff that's attracted to you like it helps us understand? And we're not again, we all No, no.

[00:20:02]Everybody has their cup of tea and what they're into and and there's no you know, no judgment on what that is. I guess I've seen that a bit you know, before, so it's not I know this is nothing new for you guys. You you gentlemen have clearly been on this task force long enough that way that you know, you've seen I probably don't even want to know and there's some things that you probably more than you wish you could have unsee Sure. Um in this uh not a You nailed it.

[00:20:32]Um so Well yeah, we're more just trying to learn like And and I'm I'm just being honest with you that way. Yeah, so I mean I guess it's kind of a newer thing that way for me just kind of was going through something, found something that way just you know, tickled the fancy for a bit, but then I got myself into therapy.

[00:20:50]Um I'm seeing a therapist once a month now.

[00:20:53]Things are good, getting back on track with the misses.

[00:20:56]Um Yeah.

[00:20:58]All of that good stuff.

[00:21:00]So you kind of went through a phase where you may have made some mistakes where even even I guess you know, she's sending you is that things of actual children and you're continuing to Communicate with her.

[00:21:11]>> Communicate and like encourage it. So, you know what I'm saying? So, >> Yeah. that could be something where you probably learned from it since then.

[00:21:17]But, helping us understand like at the time like what was so attractive about it even when she started sending actual, you know, going from her to the kids. I think it was just the shock of it.

[00:21:26]talk to her, you know. I think it was just the shock of it. Like the uh kind of like that shock value and just like how this is, you know, so, you know what I'm saying?

[00:21:40]Like abnormal, like just the shock value of it and how it was something so radically different.

[00:21:46]Yeah.

[00:21:48]Especially the ones with with the kids she sent me, was that ones where you would That communicate with her after that like in um and just to be blunt like masturbating with her to that and then later say like, you know, this is something I want to do someday and Yeah. Yeah.

[00:22:04]Yeah. It was but it was just like on that, like I said, it was a I was in a really dark place.

[00:22:09]>> Yeah.

[00:22:10]Not well. I I just you can clearly tell from reading that and now talking like I I I really and then I just kind of took off after we stopped, I kind of took a hard look at myself and I was like, "Look, this is not me. This is, you know, I need to get the help." And that's where I got that help and I'm having I'm working through things and Well, I mean I struggled for years with That's good that, you know, that that you are getting help now. Uh I'm sorry I interrupted you. Is this something that you struggled with for a long time? No, like I said, I mean I was going to say I I've always struggled with um like a pornography addiction um and that. So, I think for me too, because of having that addiction and and struggle, Sure. this kind of like this incident that way like kind of brought everything to like that boiling point where I took that hard look after we stopped talking.

[00:23:07]Yeah. Um, and I was like, this is not me. Heggie is now doing what many people in interrogation rooms do when they feel the walls closing in.

[00:23:17]He is starting to construct a narrative of redemption.

[00:23:21]He talks about therapy. He talks about getting back on track with his fiance.

[00:23:26]He talks about a pornography addiction as if it explains or contextualizes what he did.

[00:23:32]This is important to recognize not because his words aren't partially true, but because they are being used strategically. The investigators let him talk. They let him feel like he's shaping the story because every single thing he says is being used to build the case against him. And here is where the interrogation shifts gears completely. A new investigator enters the conversation and this one is not interested in rapport. [music] He is interested in facts, specific, damning, undeniable facts and he asks questions that Heggie simply cannot avoid. I'm going to ask you very direct yes or no questions and I'd like you to answer those because that's going to help you and I have a good conversation later tonight. I'd love to do that.

[00:24:18]Did you request sexual acts be performed on that child?

[00:24:24]Yes.

[00:24:25]What sexual acts were performed?

[00:24:28]I let the individual make that decision.

[00:24:30]That's not true.

[00:24:32]Once again, what sexual acts did you request to have?

[00:24:39]Yeah, I need you to be honest because that's going to help us later.

[00:24:43]I gave I gave her the ideas for it.

[00:24:47]Tell me the idea that you gave.

[00:24:50]I gave her the idea to perform Specifically.

[00:24:57]Some sort of potential Not potential. Tell me exactly what you were discussing.

[00:25:04]>> sort of the What was that sort of I believe it was of the um the And this is how many how often did you did you pay her for any material?

[00:25:22]I don't remember the frequency, sir.

[00:25:25]And there And there there there's the screenshots that you guys have that the screenshots How much did you spend for child abuse material? Again, I don't I don't recall the exact number.

[00:25:36]But you did pay for it.

[00:25:38]That's it. There there there were there was a There was a transactional action that occurred. So we're going to do a little over and under here. I sir.

[00:25:48]How many times did you have conversations with her in which that child was abused?

[00:25:55]Was it more than 10?

[00:25:58]I'm sure it was less than 10.

[00:26:00]Would you say it was less than 10 or was it less than 10?

[00:26:03]It was less than 10.

[00:26:04]I I I don't remember the exact >> More than five?

[00:26:09]Between five and 10?

[00:26:12]I don't remember exactly, but I would say that's probably within the realm of possibility. Highly Again, all that information >> 100 times is within the realm of possibility. I'm asking you was it between five and 10 times?

[00:26:26]I do not recall exactly.

[00:26:28]>> than two?

[00:26:30]No.

[00:26:31]What Yes, more than two, yes. I I sorry.

[00:26:34]I Did you pay each time?

[00:26:39]I don't remember if I paid individually each time that way or if I just gave it to her or um some type of funds. Did you pay more than once?

[00:26:50]You would know that.

[00:26:51]Like I said, there's multiple transactions that did did occur between me and her. So, I don't All right. All right. Very good.

[00:26:57]>> message that said, "I'm giving you a lot of material for $25."

[00:27:02]That That's Okay. That That That So, that sounds Like I said, I I All of this is helping me because later on, you and I are going to get down into very specific things.

[00:27:14]>> Mhm.

[00:27:14]And I want to get some of this stuff out of the way now so that you and I aren't uh having that you know, a 4-hour conversation to take a 15-minute one.

[00:27:23]What platform did you use to exchange the money?

[00:27:26]We used It was either PayPal or it was Cash App. I don't remember which one um of the apps that I was using at that $25. He paid $25 for child sexual abuse material. And what that text message reveals is that this was not accidental.

[00:27:45]This was not passive. This was transactional. He was a customer. He was commissioning abuse. He was financially incentivizing a woman to harm children.

[00:27:55]And every time investigators gave him an out, every time they softened the framing, offered him sympathy, spoke about therapy and dark places, he took it.

[00:28:06]But these are facts that cannot be softened. A financial transaction for child abuse material is a crime.

[00:28:13]Requesting specific acts to be performed on a child is a crime. And what comes next in this interrogation is where everything fractures completely open.

[00:28:23]Because the investigators are about to ask about something that has nothing to do with Molly Elizabeth Duncan.

[00:28:30]Something much closer to home.

[00:28:32]I want you to tell me This will be the easiest thing.

[00:28:36]Yes or no.

[00:28:38]If you had inappropriate sexual contact with a child.

[00:28:44]No, sir.

[00:28:45]I'm sorry? I said, "Sir."

[00:28:48]The only thing that I have ever done that way is change my kids' diapers. And I And during that time did your struggle get out of your control and you never hurt your kids?

[00:29:01]Cuz I I've heard that before.

[00:29:04]>> One occasion and it was the the triggering event for me to get myself into my own therapy. And that's why I'm thanking you. And all the therapy Have you on multiple occasions more than one during a diaper change have inappropriate sexual contact with your More than once? Yes.

[00:29:33]Thank you.

[00:29:35]That helps.

[00:29:37]That helps and that truth gets us further down the road toward taking this confirmatory test.

[00:29:42]All right?

[00:29:48]More than 20 times? No.

[00:29:50]More than 10?

[00:29:51]No.

[00:29:53]Five times?

[00:29:55]No.

[00:29:56]That's not true.

[00:30:10]I'm awaiting your questions, sir.

[00:30:12]No, I don't I don't Yeah, I'm still waiting I'm still waiting for the truth.

[00:30:17]I I My My apologies. I didn't want to interrupt you. I let you talk, so I just wanted to explain. I'm waiting for the truth.

[00:30:24]Okay.

[00:30:25]Can you please restate last question?

[00:30:27]I'm going to restate a different question. It's going to be a yes or no.

[00:30:30]Yes, sir. Okay.

[00:30:40]Have you nearly every time that you've changed your daughter?

[00:30:47]Struggle with that thought in the back of your mind, even if you didn't Yes.

[00:30:53]Okay.

[00:30:55]Thank you.

[00:30:57]Now, knowing how strong this struggle was, and knowing how it's gotten out of your hands both out in the wild on the internet and each time you're changing your daughter, that's why I'm telling you in the last 5 months, there is zero chance that this did not get out of your control multiple multiple multiple times.

[00:31:26]That moment, that admission, is the one that defines this entire case. Because everything Heggie had built around himself, the job helping kids with autism, the army service, the therapy narrative, the story of a man who made mistakes, and turned himself around, all of it collapsed in that single exchange.

[00:31:47]The investigators were right. He had not turned himself around. He had not stopped.

[00:31:52]>> [music] >> And the children closest to him, the ones who had no ability to protect themselves, were his victims, too.

[00:31:59]After more than 4 hours inside that van, with every denial stripped away, Heggie was placed under arrest on suspicion of multiple child sex crimes, including the molestation of an infant. He was 31 years old. So, am I going to be indicted?

[00:32:16]Am I going to be arrested by the Oh, we're not We're not That's That's the discussion. This not my case, but that will be a discussion.

[00:32:23]Obviously, we have to figure out what's the best Be honest with me. Am I You're You've been in law enforcement all the last on this type of case for a long time. Am I getting highly like Well, I mean, Yes, sir. from what's said today, you got to understand there's probably going to be consequences for it, you know. So, I'm I'm I'm basically going to be on a bench warrant.

[00:32:42]Probably.

[00:32:43]And I will lose my job. And I will lose my >> Well, I we don't know yet all the the extent of how all of this is. That that's why we were talking to you about how far do we have to go to get my your job, right?

[00:32:55]No no children there that's ever been a part of it.

[00:32:59]>> We're we're we're we're That that's huge.

[00:33:02]>> There for for there there is multiple safeguards in play for that.

[00:33:08]That that was a it's always two people in a room. Yeah. There's always, you know, the clients who take care of themselves when they go to the bathroom.

[00:33:16]All we do is we stand outside. Yeah.

[00:33:20]So, like this, you know, say that's the bathroom. Yeah.

[00:33:27]Congratulations. I'm right here leaning on the wall, sitting down on the wall Yeah. right there waiting on that. Even in those final moments, even after admitting to all of it, Heggie is trying to reassure investigators that the children at his workplace were safe, that the safeguards were in place, that he had never crossed a line there.

[00:33:49]Whether or not that is fully true is something only a thorough investigation could determine. What is true is that Alec Heggie was arrested. What is true is that he later pleaded guilty to two counts of child molesting, one count of child exploitation, and two counts of possession of child sexual abuse material.

[00:34:08]The authorities stated those guilty pleas were not part of a deal.

[00:34:12]He received 91 years in prison. He will be required to register as a sex offender for life.

[00:34:19]As for Molly Elizabeth Duncan, the Ohio nanny whose Snapchat account was where all of this began, she pleaded guilty in federal court to two counts of sexual exploitation of children, distribution of visual depictions of minors in sexually explicit conduct, and possession of child sexual abuse material.

[00:34:38]She was awaiting sentencing at the time [music] this story broke.