In 1946, returning World War II veterans in Athens, Tennessee organized to fight corruption under Sheriff Paul Cantrell, who had manipulated local politics for over a decade. The veterans formed the GI Nonpartisan League and, after facing voter suppression and violence, launched a coordinated armed siege on the jail where ballot boxes were hidden. Their military training enabled a successful attack, leading to the overthrow of the corrupt regime and the election of Knox Henry as sheriff. This event demonstrates how ordinary citizens can organize and use their skills to challenge entrenched corruption and defend democratic principles.
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>> Like there comedians being tortured in a cell right now. So no uh America is different.
>> Yeah. It's just our, >> you know, it's the land of the free where we just kind of quietly let unelected tech billionaires censor you six ways from Sunday. I, Dude, you'll love this. I need to send you I hired a guy that I another comedian used.
>> Listen, whatever you do over there in Asia, Graham, like I don't want to hear about you hiring a guy.
>> By hired a guy, I mean I had a lady boy invited to my home.
>> Okay. Um, >> no. I know this does sound very sorted.
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>> I didn't make it better. You're not making them better.
>> It's really, >> but all he does is make my shirts. I swear. All he does is make my shirts.
>> Yes. I keep them chained in a basement to make shirts for me. I don't know why everyone's so mad. I don't know what I did wrong. but to do to go through my social media and and and like help it and and help, you know, fix it for the algorithm and he and he's another comedian friend of mine has used him and said, "This guy's really great."
So, he goes through and I we have a phone call and I tell him, you know, um I you know, I want to boost my social media. And I told him about my YouTube channel. He goes, "Oh, wow. You got, you know, 68 69,000 subscribers. That's pretty big." I was like, "Well, I've been censored six ways from Sunday." He goes, "Well, let me check the back end and see like how you've been censored."
>> So, so then I bent over and he was like, "Not like that." But >> so I just got naked and started oiling myself up and I don't >> I hired a guy from Bangladesh. He wanted to check my back end. So we'll start there.
>> So So um we've fallen in love and uh he's really helping my algorithm if you know what I mean. No, but he he goes through my the the the the backend data of my YouTube channel and is like sends me this sevenpage report. He's like, "You have been so I don't know who got into your thing. You have bots attack. You've been censored." He shows me. I mean, this document he sent me, I want to use it in a in a in a lawsuit against Google because it's like >> someone just asked me why I don't sue these companies. But >> honestly, dude, we should we should get a class action because this is like it I went through it. I was like, wow, this is the most it's almost like stuff I've known. I've seen you and I have known how they've been doing this to us. But to see the like the how each thing has been each video has been flagged and he's like don't post any more videos, you know, and he sends me then we have another conversation. He's a proposal. It's going to take him three months to clean and fix all this. And and I was just like, it's no joke. If anyone's like, "Oh, okay, buddy." You know, like we talked about this on the last episode when when like your whole channel was pulled, people had you on every show and talked about it. When my show was demonetized, everyone wanted to talk to me about it.
When you just say sort of shadowbanned by the algorithm, everyone kind of goes, "Yeah." You know, like it happened.
>> Yeah.
>> Because it's like everyone's had some little flag or community guideline violation. So, they're just like, "Oh, welcome to the club." And they don't get it. And this document to me was like, you know, the Afghanistan papers or something like it just was seven, eight pages. I I might need to hit up your your Bangladesh guy and show him my back end cuz I uh uh in all the ways he he'll he's willing to do it. But uh but no, I I would I would be interested to see such a an analysis of mine as well. You can see enough from the analytics. Even my dumb brain that doesn't really deal with this stuff can realize from the analytics like when a when videos were doing well on my page, it's the the you you get tons a percentage of your views, whether it's 5,000 views or 100,000 views, the percentage of your views that come from YouTube browsing or YouTube recommendations should be pretty high, like 25, 50% or something. And that's when I would have successful videos.
That's what it was. And then you see like, oh, all my numbers have collapsed.
Oh, the percentage coming from YouTube browsing or YouTube recommendations goes down to five or sub 5%. So, you don't have to go off the numbers because if you just go off the numbers, people go maybe you just suck and people don't like you, right? But no, it's it's the way you like you can look at the analytics and figure it out.
>> I I'm going to send you this report that this guy made for my channel just to give you a flavor of what is happening to your channel right now. just to tell you like >> that might that might help.
>> If you're if you if they're doing this to me, they're absolutely doing it to you and maybe even worse. I mean, >> yeah. Yeah. Uh I want to I want to do I want to hit one. Well, first of all, we did a great job hyping the stories this week. Uh we're we're going to cover the mysterious death of General Patton and the Battle of Athens coming up on Government Secrets. If we get to the show, >> we might just be talking about reports and backends and haircuts.
>> But here's our uh here's our non evergreen story to mention at the top so that we date every episode and make people not want to uh not want to listen later. um is that the one like the one guy the one Republican who's responsible for getting the Epstein files revealed has now been uh taken out of Congress thanks to and you know the articles you see of why Massie lost it's like proving Trump's power no it was billions of dollars most expensive primary in history in Kentucky to take out the guy who basically made it so the Epstein files have been revealed or whatever how however much we've gotten. Uh it's like yeah billions sorry no I didn't say billions but I mean I didn't mean billions millions hundreds of millions of dollars or whatever it is uh coming mainly from Apac and pro-Israel lobbyists or or the lobby that >> what what a a congressional or senatorial primary in Kentucky is that that like this like when did this little part of the world become so important?
you know, >> because because of it's because of Massie and and and in interviews Massie said so he basically did two things that which is why they all came after him.
The two biggest things, one is the Epstein files and he wouldn't let it go and he ultimately got a lot of them revealed. The second thing though, which he claims is the bigger thing is that and he never said he's opposed to Israel. He has called out the US supporting the war on Gaza or whatever he calls it. I don't know if he uses the word genocide or not, but uh but really what he's what it is is re he's been transparent about the power of Apac and the power of the Israel lobby and that he's not saying get rid of Israel. I know they should be wiped off the face.
None of that [ __ ] It's just being transparent that there is an Apac babysitter for every congressperson and they're all afraid of Apac and Apac has them all under their thumb. And that's really what got him removed.
>> Well, of course. I mean, just just revealing that paper trail. And it's not conspiratorial. He's not coming up with crazy stuff. He's saying, "Look at all of these people in our government that they're getting money from the Apac lobby." Because again, it's all this is all transparent. You can go you can go find out everybody in Congress and the Senate that's getting money from the NRA, that's getting money from the big banks, that's getting money from tech, that's getting money from the Sierra Club, that's getting money from whomever. So he's like, and and it is it is why is this one country of 9 million people have so much sway over our country and the world? Why is that? Like I I don't like Armenia had a genocide in World War I that Turkey and Israel won't acknowledge. America didn't acknowledge it until 2022. Um so why why why don't they have that kind of power? Why doesn't Bosnia that had a genocide in the '9s or or any like why why why you know it's always the the Holocaust is brought up which was awful. It's awful.
But what about all the other ones? Why did >> Whenever they want to bring up the Holocaust, it's like, yeah, the Holocaust was horrific. It doesn't mean you get to do whatever the [ __ ] you want forever. It doesn't mean you get to blow up children because of something that happened uh, you know, 50 and more years ago. Like, it's insane. Yeah. I mean, we could go on. What about all the genocides that happened in the '9s, like Bosnia or Rwanda or Darur? Like what about those? Do those pe do those countries get to just do whatever the hell they want now? Do there's >> they get to their turn to control Congress. I think it starts uh next year. Um >> Rwans get to control.
>> They get to buy everybody in Congress.
Oh, great. Like I'm in Thailand in the northern border. Burma or Myanmar as it's called is um they're in a that vicious civil war. the mil there was a military coup and there's a lot of you know and there's it's very much behind closed doors but I'm told there's mass graves and all kind of awful stuff happening up there right now right now today like as we're talking just to the border to the north of me which would be the equivalent of of living in Los Angeles and there's a civil war happening in Oregon you know like it's it's well wellanar got to control the US Congress I think it was 93 to 98 uh with their turn to control our Congress. And now it's now it's Israel's turn. What do you you know what are you gonna do?
>> It's like the NBA draft and they just have a lottery and this ball comes up.
All the countries that have had genocides. Oh, >> yeah. Totally.
>> Oh, every Chile next because you know it's gonna be interesting. Uh 2029 Native Americans turn.
>> That'll be Yep. That's gonna be a fun one. Well, that one I'm on board with. That one I'll actually gladly give my tax dollars to.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, let's get into it, buddy. I think I We both have ones that aren't like super brutal today. Like that's not like a Well, no, I got a bunch. So, I needed to give I'm I'm I'm still going through these a bunch of like really interesting facts from various times in history. So, I'm not just doing General Patton. I'll I'll actually have a bunch of really funny facts about uh like British laws during World War II and stuff. So, uh I I think we should we will have a good time with mine.
>> So, I the other thing the other thing that's just great producing we we love how well our show is produced. Uh the other thing that's just great producing is just telling everyone so this first story is just going to like suck and then we're going to have fun in the second half. It's like, "Hey everybody, be be prepared for this to suck for the next 20 minutes.
Are you guys ready for just tears and sorrow and not wanting to live anymore?"
Just wander through that. But at the end, there's going to be some good dick jokes about a bomb blowing up.
>> Just trudge through that. And then we're going to get into like in Britain in World War II, you had to wear yellow on a Tuesday.
It's um Okay. I think mine mine's probably kind of heavy. I'll you know, do you want me to do mine first? Again, this is our pre-production meeting on on air.
>> Pre-production meeting. Uh yeah, go for it. I mean, mine's also the type that I'll be able to keep going and fill whatever time we want we need to fill.
So, yeah, you go.
>> All right. Segre the 1946 Battle of Athens.
So, um I came across this because the um I think even a fan sent this to me online, which is great. The battle of Athens saw armed veterans take on corruption in their local government.
This happened. Um, now we talk Athens, Greece, Athens, Georgia, Athens, Ohio, the little known Athens, Toronto, uh, Athens local swim club. Um, >> this is Athens, Tennessee.
>> Oh man, I didn't get any of them right.
>> You were you were O for Athens. You just owe Athens dead, man.
>> Kiss my Athens.
So in 1946, literally like the summer after World War II ended. So like just World War II ended in the summer of 1945, that's when it was all done. Um it ended in Europe in 44 and then in 45 the whole war, the war Asian theater was over. So these are like returned war veterans and these are guys that you know >> thought they'd be respected for their service as we call it.
>> Yeah. And these are guys that were a little bit like you know I just spent three or five years just in hell on earth protecting this country from you know Nazis and fascists and you're going to tell me what? like they tried to so I kind of for me kind of view this as a little bit of a you know call to arms.
So I um in post-war summer of 1946 the small town of Athens, Tennessee became the epicenter of an event that went down in history as the Battle of Athens. This wasn't merely a physical confrontation but a fight against entrenched corruption. And it was a battle that symbolized a broader struggle against tyranny and injustice in post-war America.
Um the post-war America we will never be post-war >> we're we're just war America.
>> Yeah. There was this small little window between World War II and Korea where we had a post-war America. That was it.
That was the last >> Yeah. Like three years.
>> Yeah. It was like 30 months or something. Um, so the uh the protagonists of this historic grandstand were none other than returning World War II veterans who after fighting overseas found themselves facing a new kind of enemy on home soil.
The corruption in Athens had been brewing for over a decade under Sheriff Paul Canantrell and his associates who manipulated the political landscape.
Well, Sheriff Cantrell, you made an egregious error. You thought that, hey, these these soldiers and we're going to support them and you stuck it to Hitler and the Nazis that you could then take their crap, you know, they would they would take your crap. Well, no. And it's a it's a it's a parallel theme. One of the reasons I got it, there's more and more veterans and not just like enlisted men veterans, guys like Mike Pryer, who I think does great work, but like high ranking officers, some of them in the Pentagon still who are like, "What? What is going on?" Um, you know, invading Iran, bad idea.
>> It's kind of like you come back from World War II and you kind of don't want to be exploited anymore.
>> Yeah. It's weird. It's weird. And you're like, I saw all my buddies die over there and I have survivors guilt, but at least I can say, "Oh, I protected this wonderful democracy and now you're saying you're going to be corrupt."
Yeah. Um, I'm I'm going to kick you in the teeth is like how a lot of these veterans who again like saw death on a level that no most people will never see in the most grueling of battles. And you thought you could you thought you were going to get away with this small town sheriff? Great. Um, these veterans witnessing the uh disintegration of democracy and fairness in their town decided the time had come to take action. Their training coupled with a deep-seated belief in justice prepared them for the confrontation that unfolded.
Um the uh so the service members, you know, after World War II in this country, everyone in the country, but in particular the returning veterans, there was a a uh a huge wave of relief and hope, like relief to finally the wars over, relief Hitler didn't win, and then hope like America got into this postw World War II era. of like, wow, we can do anything.
You know, there's all this hope we, you know, and and um and the service members that returned home were able to build their lives in peace. That was the, you know, the GI Bill. They were given all these homes in places like Southern California. There was there was a huge there's all these houses in Southern all throughout California, mainly Southern California that were built post World War II. And because of the guy's service overseas, they could buy an affordable house. And then the manufacturing took off and all and because there was all of this a lot of their education was covered. Yeah.
>> Yes. Their education was covered and then um they could buy a house with the money they made serving overseas and there was uh all this. So it was really help that's one of the things that helped you know the the the burgeoning uh middle class in the 40s and 50s and 60s was like these returning vets came home. They were able to buy houses. They were able to grow a business. They were And then that's when that's when the like American dream was really in full force and was actually fairly doable. Um not for everybody of course, but there was a lot of But even Oh [ __ ] sorry, hit my own laptop. Um, even LA, you know, has a has a rich history of where uh African-American veterans who came back, it was one of the few places in America they could own property after World War II. And so that's why there LA is this very uh diverse city and has this history of intergenerational homes. the fires we just had, you know, um, a year and a half ago, >> Altadena, there was like third and fourth generation homeowners, some of them returning veterans, you know, like there it was their >> that's where they bought homes. So just to paint the picture of the energy that was happening in America a year after the war was this like we won, we did it, we saved the world, money starting to come through, you know, there's relief, there's hope. Um but still like a lot of you know houses had gold stars in the windows meaning they had a son that died overseas you know and >> everybody knew somebody that lost someone in that war in this country >> right so a lot of yeah a lot of these guys had either lost a son a brother an uncle uh you know they and if they didn't lose any of those then they of course knew friends who' died like so when you've gone through that [ __ ] hell. You're just less likely to take the [ __ ] I feel like >> Yeah. You're just going to be like, "No, >> cuz when you when you live in comfort, you don't want to >> upset the comfort." And so it doesn't mean your average American is like that comfortable. But your average American is not generally starving, is not generally homeless. Yes, there is homelessness, but your most Americans are not. And so you kind of don't want to upset the the comfort on that level.
But if you've almost died and seen your friends die and people dying and your friends are take coming home and taking their lives and just all the it's like, okay, well I don't have comfort comfort anyway. So guess what? You're not going to be corrupt, steal from me, exploit me because I'm [ __ ] it. I'm ready to fight.
Like >> yeah, I stepped over dead bodies, you know, in Guad Canal or at D-Day. So you who are you? You're some small town hillbilly sheriff telling me what? Get the kid get what? No way. No way. And the the the government in this country, and not just Trump, but also the Democrats, need to understand there's a bunch of veterans in this country that fought in Iraq and Afghanistan that are like, "No, we're done." And if you try to say, "We're drafting people to Iran," they're going to go, "No, you're not. No, you're not."
>> True. But we have a long proud history in this country of treating veterans like [ __ ] >> Yes, we do.
>> I mean, we we we really have it down to an art, you know.
>> Yeah, it's it is a beautiful it's a skill in America. So, um these So, that was the overall tone in America. The veterans that came back to Athens, Tennessee, returned to find their town under the control of Paul Canel's corrupt regime characterized by rampant intimidation, voter suppression, and blatant disregard for the law. The local government had become a machinery of corruption, operating with impunity, and stifling the voices of citizens.
>> God, I'm so glad we got rid of all that stuff, >> right? Now that there's no now there's no corruption and no no like ruling elite exploiting everybody. It's just like h thank god.
>> I know. And there's no corrupt cops, there's no corrupt small town. There's no corrupt anything. America's just it's perfect. It's so great.
>> Um I mean when they implemented that thing where in order to be a police officer, you had to score just like really high on empathy scales and had to like take a sociopath test to make sure you weren't one. And like once they implemented that, things just got so much better.
>> Yeah, those tests are great. I can't seem to find them online anywhere, but but I'll take your word for it, Le.
>> Yeah, I I haven't I mean, I just assume, you know, now that we live now that we live in this time where you can also take them all at their word. You don't have to like doublech checkck everything. It's just Oh god, it's such a relief.
>> Oh, America, that's that's the new flag, should say. America, take them at their word. You know, the leaders the leaders agree.
>> I've been lobbying for a while for our flag to say America, it's the thought that counts.
>> I think that would be a great slogan for us.
>> Oh, we should get those shirts made for our next live show, which will happen in five years. Um, so these returning heroes, already seasoned by the horrors of war, were now confronted with a new battle. One threatening the very principles they thought they fought to uphold. Unwilling to stand idly by, they resolved to challenge the status quo, setting the stage for what became a historic uprising against corruption.
Um, the the roots of discontentment in Athens dated back to the election of Paul Canrell as sheriff of of McKin County in 1936.
His tenure spanning several terms was marked by a series of controvers and often illegal practices from the implementation of a fee system incentivizing arrests to the manipulation of his election results. These not only undermined the democratic process but also ended the trust and confidence of the community in their local government. Upon their return, the veterans found themselves targeted by the deputies. They were singled out and subjected to harassment and they re integrated. As they reintegrated into their communities, the deputies imposed fines for trivial offenses, often exacerbating tensions.
Um there was uh then they started the GI nonpartisan league in Athens which was a nonpartisan ticket. They started basically a third party. Um with veterans consisting roughly 10% of Mcken County's population. Some decided they'd endured enough injustice and they formed the political party, like I said, the GI nonpartisan league to challenge Canrell and his cohorts with Knox Henry emerging as the primary contender for the sheriff's position. By the time the 1946 election came around, the campaign was unsurprisingly met with hostility and violence as the sheriff deputies harassed those who dared to oppose their rule. These hillbilly deputies, you really want to do you really want to harass combat veterans? Like it's it's >> Listen, listen, son. You're going to get in the way of what we got going here.
You're going to need to move it along.
>> I I think the only thing dumber would just be to be like, "Hey, I'm a small town cop and all you UFC fighters, you better take a step back."
So >> I am tired of these ninjas having the run of the place >> here on out. War on ninjas.
>> I Oh, I want to visit a town that's run by ninjas. Where do I sign up for that?
I'm in. I want to join ninja town. Um they uh a single vet and voter registration book was uh allocated for the entire county and it conveniently disappeared. Whenever any venture had tried to gain access to it even when it was available, the deputies often apprehended the men on false charges and took their pole tax receipts. Oh, I got to love pole tax, which is essential for voting. On election day, a familiar spectre of corruption loom large.
Citizens encountered deputies surveilling them as they cast their ballots with law enforcement stationed at numerous polling stations.
Tragically, one man, Tom Gillespie, lost his life at the hands of the deputy after attempting to vote for the veterans and being denied the opportunity. Did he Did he Did he lose his life at the hands of the deputy? Did he misplace his life at the hands of the I just couldn't find my life anymore.
Where did it go? Or was HE [ __ ] MURDERED BY THE DEPUTY?
>> I think he >> the godamn you >> he I think he left his life in a winter jacket. I think that happens to all of us.
>> Deputy was there and this guy was like my life was just here. I don't know where I placed it. It was somewhere around here. I've just lost it. Lost it.
But I'm going to keep looking for a little while.
Well, um to hide the votes of those who managed to do so, ballot boxes were stolen and hidden away in a local jail.
In response, the veterans took up arms.
The act of defiance marked the beginning of the Battle of Athens.
Um the state the siege of the jail was a testament to the veterans determination and strategic prowess. Again, you're a small town sheriff's deputy. Um, I'm going to say you don't have the same type of uh military strategy as guys that were doing active combat maneuvers against um the Nazis.
>> True. But I would say that back then you probably even of veterans you probably had fewer with like loads of guns. They might have had their their one hunting rifle or something, but >> right, >> you know, now nowadays you would assume that every veteran in Tennessee that comes home has a room devoted to guns.
Uh back then probably not quite I think the deputies probably thought, well, we got the firepower.
>> Yeah. And they probably did have maybe somewhat superior firepower at least equal to fire. Yeah. Now veterans now have like one of those basements in one of those spy safe house movies that opens up and there's just just walls of content.
>> And if you ask to see their guns, they go, "Well, do you want to go to the small arms room or you want to go to the automatic rifle room or we're talking IED room? I need to you need to narrow it down for me." Do you want to go into my rocket launcher closet or what which what do you um so then um throughout the night um the the siege of the jail was a testament to the veterans determination and strategic prowess. Of course, they're combat veterans. Throughout the night, gunfire echoed through the streets of Athens as both sides engaged in a fierce battle for control. The veterans making good use of the military experience, executed a well-coordinated attack, demonstrating their unwavering commitment to reclaiming their town from the clutches of corruption. Like, would you want combat vets going toe-to-toe with them? Oh, the intensity of the battle underscored the depth of their resolve. They understood the stakes not just for their town, but for the principles of democracy and justice.
Their actions that night, while born out of desperation, were driven by a profound belief in the right to fair and free elections, a cornerstone of democratic governance.
Um, dawn of the following day brought a new beginning. The Veterans Valiant efforts during the Battle of Athens had paid off with the ballot boxes revealing a decisive victory for the GI nonpartisan. Oh, look at that. When you actually count ballots counted Yeah. Oh, when you actually count them, the corrupt jack wagons lose and the people's candidate wins. That's so weird. It's like, >> again, I you know, I I I sorry to keep reiterating this, but uh it's good we don't have election rigging today. You know, you go back in this time when elections couldn't be trusted in the United States and the numbers were like all over the place and the ruling elite had some sort of power to like rig those numbers or alter those numbers. It was just a [ __ ] time in American history.
And so to be past that is just it's you know I just I I I I thank my lucky stars every day. We live in the greatest country. I mean, how absurd is it to think this is going to sound crazy?
Like, let's say, I don't know, there was a let's call it a Democratic primary and the head of the DNC is, I don't know, a woman from Florida that gets money from Apac and then she's fired by the DNC for clear corruption and then hired by the Hillary campaign in 2016 and then nobody calls that out and then when Hillary loses, everybody blames Russia. Like, that sounds right. Like, like that would never happen. Like, that just sounds >> Your imagination is just beyond. Okay.
It's just I, you know, sometimes I'm just like, where's this guy come up with this [ __ ] >> I know. I get a crazy image. I'm nuts.
Um, >> uh, the corrupt sheriff's regime was dismantled and Knox Henry was appointed the town's new sheriff. The aftermath.
>> The name is Knox.
>> Yes.
>> God, this is Oh, is wait, is this where Knoxville comes from? This is Those are some [ __ ] names in Tennessee, man.
If it isn't, it should be named after this dude. Um, this the Battle of Athens, the aftermath saw significant changes in how the town was governed and provided a rewarded sense of hope among its residents. The veteran success overthrowing the corrupt regime was a powerful example of what could be achieved when ordinary citizens come together to fight for justice and uphold the principles of democracy. Gee, uh, men and women that served in Iraq and Afghanistan that are watching their, uh, current president protect pedophiles and take money from a foreign agency, I hope you're hearing this and reading this article just for um, research purposes, of course.
>> Well, he's not just protecting pedophiles, he's being pedophiles. So, >> he's one of them. He's a being of them.
He's a Yeah, it's great. Like, uh, when when are all of these dudes with with with 10 times more training and weaponry than a World War II veteran that the the technology and everything that these these all these Navy Seal guys, that guy Sean Ryan, his podcast, what are these guys doing? Where are What are they doing? What where are they? What What are you doing? Like >> Graeme, I I I sorry I couldn't hear the last few minutes you've been uh you've been talking over the sound of us being demonetized. I couldn't uh couldn't hear what you were saying. But anyway, again, how can they how what do they how do they double demonetize us? How did that happen?
>> We we owe them money. They I They sent me a bill. You should send me a bill for $300 last week.
>> There's just a clock. There's just like a utilities thing that's just spiraling backwards. Okay.
>> All right. Well, that's segment number one. And now, segment number two, fun stuff from World War II camp.
>> And we will we will culminate these fun facts with uh the mysterious death of General Patton.
>> So, I've been bringing some of the crazy facts of World War II, and we're going to keep going through some now. Uh, a lot of these are are are talking about Britain at the time, but the mass bureaucracy and regulation that descended on the country was kind of mind-boggling. The Emergency Powers Act passed a week before the outbreak of war allowed the government to make regulations almost at whim. So, basically, it was like there's a war. We can we as the government barely even need votes for things anymore. So, we can just pass everything everything we want. And yeah, some of that gives them a lot of power, but some of it was just like crazy [ __ ] So, here are some of the rules uh in Britain during World War II.
Every car, however expensive, had to have a white edging. Now, uh for Graham, if you don't know, that's uh when you almost make someone come, but you like keep stopping right before they do. So you had to have >> you had to have a white guy edging you in your car at all times. Uh no >> edging. They they mean like white edge painted on your car >> running on its running boards, bumpers, and mud guards for the blackout. So basically they're trying to stop German pilots from being able to bomb the cities or bomb accurately in the cities.
So they turn out all the lights which would mean the cars driving around would then hit each other hit everything. Hit the cars, hit each other. So they started painting white or they reg they regulated you had to paint white uh on your car so that when all the lights are out, you're less likely to plow into everything. I guess people will get out of the way.
>> Wow.
>> Um let's see. You could only have one headlight on your car.
You had to remove the other. Uh the use of illuminated aotype direction indicators were permissible only if they were reduced in width to 1/8 of an inch.
Dashboard lights were prohibited.
>> Huh.
>> They basically took all the lights off the car because they didn't want the German pilots to be able to see where they were bombing. Now, this sounds great, but this also doubled the number of people killed on the roads.
>> Oh, man. This just like, oh, we don't want to be bombed, but you guys can plow into each other.
>> Yeah, running over each other constantly. Uh, it was an offense to leave your car unattended if it was not immobilized against theft. Now, I guess this was in case there was an invasion.
I don't quite understand, but they had to basically you had to remove a piece of the car so it couldn't be used. So the common piece of the engine that was taken out was the rotor arm of the distributor.
So basically, you park your car, you take the rotor arm of the distributor off, and you put it in your purse or something.
>> Just so in case they're evaded while you're at lunch or something, you don't want the Nazis to drive your >> You don't want the Nazis driving your car around. Yeah.
>> Okay. I mean, I'm trying to be I'm trying I've see I see some of this logically. It's I get it.
>> Um, if the police came across a car that had not been immobilized, they then could prevent they they then could prevent it from being moved. So, they would basically deflate all deflate all the tires.
So, the cops walking around being like, "This car could be used and just deflating all the tires."
Yeah, I really think they didn't think that one through because then if they are invaded, wouldn't you want some Brits to be able to hop in a car and get out of there or something? No.
Yeah, it's not really working great. I don't uh it was an offense to display a lit cigarette during an air raid.
Dude, could the German pirates really pirates pilots really see a lit cigarette on the ground? And and bes, if you're being bombed, don't you want to smoke? I mean, just on your way out, just give me a smoke. Like, >> I want to know. Yeah. I want to know what type of eyesight the pilots had that they could see a lit cigarette from like two miles in the sky.
>> I mean, maybe if it was like 20 of you all standing around with your lit cigarettes all like right next to each other, maybe that might be a problem.
But, >> all right.
>> I mean, I I I do do that. That's every every hour on the hour I stand outside with 20 friends. We light cigarettes together. Uh then we work on our edging.
So that feels like it confirms my suspicion that you're in a cult. What that does?
I've always got a suspect. I've always thought >> I've not hired a Bangladeshi man to check my back end.
>> He's not a cult though. What what he does with my back end is just two guys.
It's not like a bunch of dudes smoking cigarettes and doing back end check.
>> Whatever consenting adults do with each other's back ends, it's up to them.
>> It's really Exactly. Exactly. And my I got to tell you, my back end feels great now.
>> Travelers out of the country, out of the UK, had to leave their newspapers behind.
>> They couldn't have newspaper. Wow. This is Okay. This is I guess so Germans wouldn't figure out what was being reported in Britain >> or we can't let them find out crosswords. That'll let Jerry win for sure. I was just like, what? What is that? Women could leave only wearing rings and watches of up to a value of 12.
Anything more would be forfeited. I guess this is so when they were murdered by Germans that they couldn't Germans couldn't get their jewelry.
Edinburgh and Dundee city councils closed their reservoirs to fishers to fishermen because of the risk that saboturs could masquerade as fishermen to poison the water supply.
>> Wow. It seems like you could probably like did that have an impact? Couldn't you masquerade as kind of anything? Like I'm a pavement improvement guy that happens to be working by the reservoir.
pavement improvement >> like a guy filling the holes. Well, sorry. Filling the holes in your back end. No, filling the holes around the res reservoir. I don't know.
>> It sounds like It sounds like a wy coyote job. You just >> I mean, so does the fisherman thing.
>> They're just I'm just fishing here with a bucket full of toxins or whatever acid I'm pumping into the water. It's like radioactive spark plugs that I'm just going to use as bait.
I mean, it does sound like it's giving the Germans a little more credit. How many how many undercover Germans dumping stuff in the water supply really happened?
>> Yeah.
>> Uh, illuminated shop signs were illegal.
Car radios were banned.
Uh, it was an offense for anyone to own a map on a scale more accurate of one mile to one inch.
>> I Some of these I get some of these I totally get, but some of these I I don't I don't get it. I don't >> I I guess because German saboturs and spies would need really accurate maps, maybe.
All right.
I don't know. Signs revealing railway station names were only allowed if they were under the station roof so they couldn't be viewed by airplanes.
Uh, also like were the German pilots like I need to find the right railway stop? I I mean maybe. I don't know.
This this is one of my favorite. It was an offense for a confectioner or bakery dude, I guess, to put sugar on the exterior of any cake, biscuit, bun, pastry, scone, or bread roll.
>> Wait, what? You couldn't put the ingredients?
>> What? For those of you listening to the podcast, I'm sorry you can't see Graham's eyes as he tries to figure out why the [ __ ] that is. So, so the Germans are going to win the war because they know how to make British cakes. Is that is that it?
>> I am baffled by the So, it's illegal to put sugar.
I guess this is that it would make the pastries really bright and white so they could be seen or or does it have to air from the air or does it or does it have to does it have to do with white could be a poison that like sprinkled on the scones?
>> Look for the right frosting glistening from the confectionary stores. Then we will bomb the bomb the cakes. The cakes is the strength of the of the British.
>> May maybe it's the maybe it's that that could be poison sugar. Like poison's more likely to look like sugar. So if they sprinkle it on the top, is that what it is?
>> Was it rationing? And the rationing I get there was heavy rationing in every country like America.
>> Rationing of sugars. But then why is it just biscuits, buns, pastries, and scones? And why is it just on the top?
Wouldn't you have to ration what's in the pastry, too?
>> Stop asking so many questions, Lou, and just swallow waters, old chap.
>> Stiff up a lip. Don't put sugar on your biscuit and remind me to go to get your Bangladeshi back end mounted.
>> Are you allowed to put sugar on your physical top? Like, can you sugar your tits or only pastries? It's like a pastry themes strip club. Where do they fall into this?
>> All right. Now, this one easy to understand. I'm t I'm sorry to give you so many confusing ones. It was it illegal to keep pigeons.
>> Yeah, [ __ ] them. The pigeons are the worst. I hate them. They're worse than bakery sugar.
>> But could you have pigeons on top of your pastries? Why was it that you could use them to send notes? Was this messenger pigeons that so a sabatur I guess I I guess that's got to be what a sabotur could be.
>> So so yeah no this trash >> someone is really someone in the chat is really obsessed with the fact that I can't do good voices.
>> Good voice Graham. WHAT THE [ __ ] UP WILLY'S VOICES? GODAMN IT. I've watched way too many World War II movies, old chap, so I can do all >> Every podcast needs a voice guy and a not voice guy. All right, Graham is our voice guy. Just deal with it.
>> I'm the one of voices. These are the most purest voices. We will have a trained spy pigeon to grab the biscuit and drop it into the reservoir and poison it with too much sugar making the Englishman fat so we can bomb them.
Every look, we knew this going in and it's why I asked Graham 200 episodes to start this show 200 episodes ago. Uh I said every successful podcast has a voice guy and a smart one. Okay.
So who I am does the voices.
I'm so dumb. I don't know. You just insulted me. So I just like that's the beauty of it.
I called him up that fateful day. I said, "Graham, I'll be the smart one. You do the voices." And I was like, "Hello, Governor. I'll do the voices." I will.
>> All right. Kite flying was banned. And for once, he gives a reason. This was to stop illicit signaling.
Okay. All right.
>> I get that one. I get the biscuit sugar.
I'm still in the dark about. But the kite one I got. Kite. I'm on board.
>> All Maybe they were Maybe you could spell out things in the biscuits. Like you spell out bomb here with sugar on top of the biscuits.
>> Yeah. This is the name of the train station on top of the biscuit. Yeah.
Yeah, I get it.
All household addicts, unless reachable by a fixed staircase, had to be emptied of all movable and combustible material.
I I think this must be to stop them from burning after bombing, maybe.
>> Yeah, that's that's See, that's a very plausible because they they would the bombs back then were incendiary and that's why like London was on fire. So, they were doing everything they could to prevent the fires from spreading whenever there was a bomb.
Okay, so that's the that's those are the crazy laws that they have listed here.
Um, then they just get into how a lot of the precautions that Britain did for the war just were meaningless or weren't followed or you know people were told to carry gas masks with them and essentially no one did it. But this is one of my favorite a survey of air raid shelters in 1940. So there were a lot of shelters and and they were also told to Brits were told to build shelters.
Everyone went running around their community and building shelters. But a survey in 1940 found that many surface brick built air raid shelters had been wrongly constructed due to ambiguity in the Ministry of Home Secretaries circular what the [ __ ] a circular that led to a misunderstanding uh I guess I mean circulated note to uh a misunderstanding to the correct cement content. 5,000 in the London region alone had been built with lime and sand mortar containing no cement at all and were in the words of one reviewer barely strong enough to withstand a direct hit from a bicycle.
So these were basically ended up being places for people to gather and any any bomb that hit them would totally kill everyone.
Well, buckle up your 10-speed old chap and say say hello to the other side. I mean, go ahead and build your air raid shelter out of sand, BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DON'T PUT SUGAR ON YOUR PASTRIES.
>> Don't put sugar on I know. just like, "So, we're going to use like like cardboard and straw to build the bomb shelter, but if I see even just a pinch of powdered sugar anywhere near your crumpet, I'm going to stick a boot so big up your back end, you're going to be living in Bangladesh for the rest of your life."
>> I'm I'm coming at you with a bicycle.
>> Oh, hard hard bicycle.
>> Hard bicycle. The habit of Oh, I already did the gas mask. Let's see. So beer was never rationed, thank God, but it was radically diluted.
Well, the volume of beer, Can you imagine? You're about to be bombed.
Maybe half your family's dead.
And you you're like, "Just give me a beer. Just give me a gun." And it's like water.
You can't have sugar on your biscuit.
You're staying in a collapsible bomb shelter that and you're like, I just want a beer.
>> I just want a beer. Can I get a beer?
And it's like, oh, this tastes like an ODS that's been left out in the sun.
>> While the volume of beer consumption, for some odd reason during wartime, increased by 25%.
Uh, can't can't imagine why people wanted a beer, the amount of alcohol actually taken in went down. because it was all diluted.
Uh striking as in worker worker strikes had been made illegal in 1940 under the emergency powers act. However, militancy still reared its head. Three of the five war years saw a higher number of days lost through strikes than in the last peacetime year. In 1994, there were 2,194 separate strikes. God, compare that to today in the US where there's like eight like despite the austerity required by the war, six out of 10 strikes were disputed were disputes about wages.
Uh yeah, people probably wanted to I mean they're in the middle of a war. all the prices have gone up and they probably wanted to get paid.
>> Yeah. And they just were like, "We can barely survive. We're getting bombed every day." Like the first couple years of the war before America got involved, especially 1940, Britain was like, "We've got months left before we surrender to like they were months away from like having to just like we got to surrender soon."
That they were discussing this heavy Churchill. this was. And so people were probably just like, "Yeah, I need a pay bump if we're if we're gonna if we're gonna might as well collect a few dollars before the Germans before the Germans come here."
>> Um, so an interesting uh respected British historian, Norman Stone, has posited the theory that the Brits would have been doing a lot better and would have won more battles. And this is not to take anything away from all the battles they fought, all the Brits that died. Uh but he argued uh they would they would have done a lot better if they hadn't always sought massive superiority in the numbers before venturing to engage the enemy. Germany might have been defeated by 1944 or even 1943, two years earlier than actually occurred. Basically, every time the Brits were willing to go to battle, they wanted to have massive superiority.
Uh Stone pointed out the contrast with the Russian army. Everyone needs to remember the Russian army lost uh 27 million was the old agreed upon number, but or closer to but now they're saying closer to 29 million people. Uh the US lost less than half a million. 400 roughly 410,000 people.
>> Uh Stone pointed the contrast with the Russian army where there was one fighting man for one in the rear. I don't think they mean like your guy checking your back end. Uh I think they mean one guy up front fighting and one guy dealing with logistics. Logistics would have been a better way to say that. I mean, rather rather than saying every time I do uh while I film my show, I have uh one man in the rear. I I like I normally phrase it that way. I'm realizing now I should probably say I have someone doing logistics.
>> So then if I walk into a room with assless chaps and say, "Hey, check my logistics." It might be misconr if you say, "Would you like to be my man in the rear?" That would be that'd probably get that.
Okay. All right. I'm Hold on. I'm writing this down.
>> Yeah. Write these down. Take notes. Um, but so the so the Russian army would have one guy up front fighting, one guy dealing with logistics, you know, getting ammo, food, all that [ __ ] planning. Uh whereas, let's see, uh, in the British Army, the ratio was one to three in the rear. God, how do you fit that many men in the rear? for the Americans. Sorry, these jokes were not done. For anyone who would like to see these wrapped up, it's not happening.
>> We can't. It's so funny. No matter how serious we stud, we can't comedians can't get back with a in the rear or mentioning the planet Uranus, we just can't do it. I can't.
>> No. No. And it's like all these science I'm glad you brought that up. All these scientists now trying to call it Uranus.
Uh, no. We know what you mean. We know.
Every time you say Uranus, we go, "Oh, he means his anus." We know.
>> We know what you're talking about.
>> You can pretend it's pronounced differently. We know.
>> Yeah. You can't write rewrite the name of Uranus. Okay, there it is.
Um, British Army 1 to3 uh one to nine as the GIS were thought to be uniquely dependent Oh, for Americans.
So, get this. Russian army one to one.
One fighting up front, one in the back.
Uh, British army one to three. Americans one to nine.
One guy fighting, nine dealing with logistics and [ __ ] Not on the front.
Uh, not on the front. Not getting shot at. One to nine. No matter. No wonder the Americans lost less than a half a million while the Russians lost 29 million.
>> Wow.
>> Um, >> that's Yeah, >> the American GIS were thought to be uniquely And by the way, these are not my quotes. So for anyone who's like, "Fuck you for disparaging the fighters during World War II." I'm these are not my quotes. Uh he says the GIS were thought to be uniquely dependent on refrigerators and the like and their supply lines became clogged with extra baggage. The US Army often brought complete CocaCola bottling plants >> Oh.
>> with them to keep the troops supplied.
Three were shipped into North Africa after the landing. Can you imagine?
you're in North Africa fight fighting World War II and you have fresh Coca-Cola bottling bottle plant >> and that's let's be real clear here that's not like we want to make sure our boys get everything they need that's the Coca-Cola company going hey how can we get some of this military contract money and let's not forget Coca-Cola was not willing to let go of their uh Nazi uh Nazi consumer base they just changed the name to Fanta Fanta.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Fanta is Nazi Cola.
>> Nazi Cola. On Let's see.
In the Pacific War, the US Navy deployed an entire ship for the sole purpose of making ice cream.
>> I'm the I'm the admiral of the USS Banana Split.
>> And I'm here. Do you think he came home when everyone was telling their war stories? Hey, Mike, where'd you where'd you serve over there in the I was in the Pacific theater?
>> Uh I, you know, I dealt with um the the the colder areas of the fighting. um the uh uh the wrath, the the getting military food, getting various food items to the soldiers so they'd survive was was something I was important in. Um some of the some of the cone shaped food items.
>> Uh I uh I got a purple heart for taking uh shrapnel was more like sprinkles in my eye. And uh I had I Yeah. He just tells everyone he took shrapnel to the eye.
Never admit it was sprinkles.
>> Yeah. Sprinkles in the eye and you just had to go get the your eye washed for the afternoon. Is that what happened?
>> Sprinkles in the eye was also the name of that clown porn I watched. But on Lee, I thought we were going to get through an episode without me being horrified and uh that you watch clown porn. I just we were having a fun laugh.
We're talking about like and then you does it not seem on brand. Am I really shocking that much?
>> Sprinkles the clown.
Oh god.
>> Uh don't watch Sprinkles in the i3 though. That they jumped the shark on that one. Was >> Well, the script writing falls apart.
That's the problem with the third one.
>> Exactly. You know, Hollywood nowadays just doesn't they they don't care about the writing anymore.
>> Yeah. It's just it's just a money grab for more clown porn.
>> Well, and you know what else is uh much like Tom Cruz on uh on Mission Impossible, Sprinkles just became the ego of that guy just became so big that he just thought he could write on the fly. He was like, I need a script. I'm just gonna >> I'll just Sprinkles in the eye and I'll do it myself, you know? on.
Yeah, that's what you don't that's what you don't hear on board. WE'LL DO IT LIVE. THAT'S not terrible.
On DDay, >> the for people who tuned in in the middle of that and now they're like, "What's the topic?" Oh, World War II.
Got it.
>> Yeah.
>> On D.
>> How would you not talk about clown porn in World War II in the same episode? I don't get it. Of course we have to they so connected >> on D-Day. The allied superiority was in the or order order of 30 to one. That's crazy.
>> Meaning uh uh 30 uh 30 allied to one German. The successful defeat of the Axis in North Africa, the hinge on which ultimate victory swung takes on a different perspective when it's realized that the British superiority over Raml was nearly sixfold in tanks. Wow.
>> The Brits had 1440.
The Germans had 260.
And even then, Raml managed two spectacular counteroffensives. The first dramatically seizing Tobuk to the Allies deep embarrassment and the second nearly breaking through the Egyptian border in Cairo.
Uh while America and Britain each lost 400,000 soldiers killed in the war, Germany lost over three million. and Russia lost 29 million. In just two months during 1943, the Red Army lost as many men as the Americans and British lost in the entire war.
>> Wow.
>> Uh Stone concludes, boy, people the the the people who love, you know, the World War II veterans, they really must hate this guy Stone. Um he concluded that Allied commanders simply did not dare to ask as much of their troops as their German counterparts. Ouch. He said with a dash and and dare with dash and daring, Italy could easily have been occupied in July 1943. Instead, there was a very ponderous invasion of a barely defended Sicily, and the Germans were able to regroup in southern Italy, making a step-by-step retreat over the next 22 months.
Uh this this is also crazy. Another perspective however perhaps suggests the allies were wise to take precautions far from the slick efficient fighting force uh from the enemy figures show that in battle in the battle for France in 1940 under 25% of British tanks were lost through enemy action. meaning the vast number of British attacks that were lost were actually abandoned because of technical breakdowns.
>> Yeah. I mean, that's actually that's actually interesting. And I' I've read a fair amount of like World War II history and and theory of like one of the theories why the Allies didn't go hard at the Germans in Italy was we were worried about losing like a million men just in Italy if we went hard at Italy.
Um, so there is there I don't know that's that's an interesting that's an interesting sort of >> I'm sure there I'm sure there could be some some debate over these uh like whether it was still the right tactic or whatever but still these numbers on like the tanks all breaking down.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh >> and then for the French effort half of all tanks half of all French tanks were abandoned because they ran out of fuel. Oh, because guess what, folks? You're in the countryside in France and your tank runs out of fuel.
Do you think you push it to the nearest gas station there? There isn't like an Arco right on the corner and you can get like a big gulp and a, you know, cheese dog or something.
>> French policy had apparently been to limit each tank crew to only five hours of supply. The [ __ ] >> What?
>> Oh my god.
All right. Because I uh hyped it with the title, I'm going to jump to uh Patton's death.
>> Okay. Um well, I'll throw in here an interesting truth about uh and I know we I know we started late and we're going a little long. I don't know if we want to count this as the extra for today for today, but anyway, um General Dwight D. Eisenhower, who many may recall ended up becoming a uh I believe he was the parliamentarian of Congress.
>> Yes, that's correct. He was the parliamentarian.
>> No, ended up being a US president. Uh he had a 27year military career, right?
Many many are very proud of General Dwight D. Eisenhower.
Uh he was commander of the US forces. uh subsequently elev ele elevated to supreme allied commander at the end of 1943 to lead the D-Day invasion. But according to historian AD Harvey, Eisenhower had never seen a dead body except uh one time the Royal Air Force did fly him over a battlefield so that he could see some of the carnage. So that was the first time he'd seen a dead body. He also never fired a weapon in anger, except apparently he did once.
fire weapon out of anger at a rat that had come into his private toilet area.
>> Yeah, good. Take that rat out. Some I got no problem with that.
>> It's almost like even in the military, the ruling elite are kind of separate from the like the average people, the average folks that are actually slaving, toiling away, fighting in the trenches.
And there's like this ruling level of hierarchy where they just [ __ ] sit there with their little gold stars and their little stickers. They look how many stickers I got on my vest.
Yeah. I mean, that's a huge especially like there is an aristocracy in the military, especially if you came from one of these wealthy military families and then you go to West Point or something like that or Annapolis, you are um you know, they had a saying in World War II, it don't mean a thing unless you got that ring, meaning the West Point ring. And if you had a if you were from West Point, you got that was a secret handshake, man. You got special treatment and you were not you were groomed to get moved up the ladder and you're you're not going to you know you're you're not going to see any battle. You're going to get >> Yeah. You're you're the you're the leadership class and uh they don't want their leaders getting killed. So you they they're not near the front lines.
>> Yeah. A good book to read is actually Band of Brothers. They made it into a an HBO um minisseries, but it's a really good book.
General George Patton was he had a well established reputation for thirsting after military glory. So he was it sounds like he saw I think Patton saw plenty of battle. He was unlike many of the others. But >> um but it may have been too much for his political masters. Rumors abounded after his death in a car accident in December 1944, died in a car accident uh essentially towards the end uh essentially after World War II. Uh he as he led the Allied assault into Germany.
Um so he d Oh. Oh, sorry. So it wasn't quite over. He he was he was in a car accident, but it was not like near a battle. Uh but rumors abounded that he had been eliminated by his own side because of concerns that he would end up embroiling the US in a new war with the Soviet Union. Uh and we've done plenty of segments about how the US really viewed the Soviet Union as as nearly an equal enemy. Even as they were allying with them against the Nazis, they were nearly an equal enemy to the Nazis because God forbid communism beat capitalism. So the US even as they were meeting with them, allying with them, the US ruling elite despised the Soviet Union, but that does not mean they wanted war with them. They just wanted to like collapse them without war. Uh but anyway, there certainly were curious elements to Patton's demise. He died after a troop truck hit his staff car outside Mannheim in southern Germany during a pheasant hunting trip. So, not part of the like battle against Germany.
He's on a pheasant hunting trip.
>> Well, but maybe they were German feeasants.
>> That's a great point. And considering feeasants aren't that far from pigeons and pigeons were illegal.
>> Maybe maybe you needed to fight the feeasants for the war effort. Maybe the feeasants were dropping, you know, biscuit sugar on the troops and Patton had to fight him to take them out.
>> Kill a pheasant for mommy. That was one of the slogans.
>> Yeah. Kill a fee for mommy.
Kill a feeant for mommy. Yeah. Uncle Sam wanted you to kill us feeasant for mommy.
>> Yeah. The the uh the propaganda group was uh they were running low on slogans by that point in the war. Wasn't that a Benny Goodman song?
>> I think it was Bob Hope.
>> Hey. All right. That was my Bing Crosby.
Horrible impression of Bob Hope. I don't know what that was. I just did a Hey.
All right. Just a >> I mean, they all they all sounded the same then. So, I don't know that you were wrong. I think you might have been right.
>> Hey, America. Kill him from now. I said like Dean Martin. I don't know which one I am. Just I'm one of those old guys.
>> But yeah, and and no one did more for US propaganda than Bob Hope.
>> God bless his soul.
Uh Oh, yeah. And he was he was anti-Semitic, too, right? Yeah.
>> Oh, I didn't know that.
>> He was like a good old Henry Ford.
>> All right.
>> The uh So, okay, he runs into this uh truck during a pheasant hunting trip. The accident occurred just after both vehicles were starting up, which is weird to have an accident. Okay.
Like immediately. The uh they were both both vehicles were starting up after stopping at a railway level crossing. So they were going less than 20 miles per hour each.
So they like this is like a slow accident. Like this is like a bump.
Neither vehicle appeared to be badly damaged. So, it's like there's like a dent in the bumper.
Patton was the only person hurt, seeming to have struck himself on a metal uh seat petition, sorry, partition. He was paralyzed with his neck broken. Military historian Robert Wilcox claimed in a 2008 book to have identified a hitman Douglas Bazata who confessed before he died in 1999 to engineering the accident and finishing off patent by shooting him with a low velocity projectile that had broken his spine. So this would be like something that's meant to be shot so it doesn't actually enter your body.
Therefore it doesn't leave that kind of mark. Yeah, I would imagine it would lead a pretty vicious bruise, but for back then, I would imagine that a doctor wouldn't see a bruise and think, "Oh, I bet he was shot with a low intensity projectile."
>> So, wait, this guy claimed to assassinating Eisenhower.
>> Uh, Patton.
>> Pat, >> we're we're on General Patton now.
>> Ah, tomato tomato. I mean, >> Eisenhower put Eisenhower. Yeah, sure.
Patton Eisenhower, MacArthur, they're just way one of the three stooges, one of those guys running around fighting that war.
>> But yes, he admitted on his deathbed or close to his deathbed to assassinating General Patton >> Bazada. Now, now Graham, if if this were true, what organization do you think would possibly be beside behind an assassination?
Uh, I would say it would be at that time the OSS, which later became the CIA.
God, you were so anti-CIA, man. Bazatada said he was acting under the orders of the forerunner of the CIA, >> which was the OSS.
>> OSS, the wartime Office of Strategic Services. That's what OSS stood for.
Wild Bill Donovan had described Patton as being uh Oh, sorry. OSS leader Wild Bill Donovan, glad he was called Wild Bill, had described Patton as being out of control. I mean, Patton was out of control. That is just a fact. Other intriguing aspects which Will Cox claimed pointed to a cover up were the disappearance of the truck driver who bumped into him at 3 miles an hour. He was whisked off to London, the truck driver before he was questioned, and the absence of any post-mortem on the general. At least five documents on the accident appear to have been removed from the US archives. According to Willox, the administration thought Patton was nuts and that he wanted to go to war with the Russians and the world needed to be saved from him.
Now, there were at that time immediately following the OSS was still moderately insane, but at that time immediately at the end of World War II, there were a lot of people even in the ruling elite who were like, "We need to make sure there aren't more wars.
Like, >> yes, that was a thing.
>> Yeah, that was a thing. It doesn't exist anymore, but that was a thing. That was They were like, "No, World War is awful.
We need to stop war." That was what the formation of the UN was about. That was like, "We need to make sure this never happens again because we had two wars in the same century, two world wars." And yeah, we need to make peace. And that's when all that stuff was like that that flowery >> America, you know, the West and the >> the ruling elite very much wanted capitalism to win. They viewed communism as their biggest threat, but they also saw that war, yeah, some people got rich from war, but they saw it as a risk to the stability they needed to really make to to keep making crazy amounts of money. So >> they it was not like now where they just mainly see the the up end of war.
>> Yeah. They they saw the down end of war.
They saw the fact that actually postwar they you know since you know in 44 45 you know the some theaters of war had already kind of wound down or were ending. they were starting to look at post-war and the the you know the ruling elites the capitalists were like hey there's money to be made now like there's real like let's put everybody to work let's have this broom prosperity you know all the prosperity that we were talking about the beginning of the episode the ruling elites were like orchestrating that for their benefit of course but they also had the ruling elites back then were weren't as sinister they were like hey when everyone's making money the working class the middle class are making money so do we Now the ruling class is just like squeeze a nickel out of everybody and you know drink their blood cuz we're psychos. And and and you know let's be clear they they probably the these ruling elite that did not want war. They probably did not care about essentially obliteration of a smaller population. So they probably didn't care about just bombing the [ __ ] out of Korea or Vietnam or something.
But they didn't want another world war.
They didn't want a war with the Soviet Union because it was relatively powerful.
>> Uh so I think they didn't want that kind of war and if they if they viewed Patton as taking as likely trying to take them into that and Patton was so popular and everything that he could have gotten much of America to support such a thing.
He could have run for president. I mean the other thing too Eisenhower you know the military-industrial complex hadn't really formed yet. Eisenhower didn't warn about that until 1960, >> you know. So like, yeah, >> everybody that that whole machine hadn't really >> wasn't put in place yet.
>> Um, so there was again a a people in charge in power were like, "Yeah, we got to stop this war stuff."
So that does I mean that motivation is actually plausible. Did they assassinate Paten G? I don't know, but it's plausible. and and under the circumstances and in that and and that timeline, it is it is possible.
>> It's also possible that Patton rubbed a lot of people the wrong way for other reasons. Uh and it's possible some people wanted him out separate from him possibly taking us into war with Soviet Union.
>> Uh they may have just despised Patton for other reasons, but yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Well, there there we go. Episode 2011 in the bag, man.
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